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Speaker 1: Lake Mail Podcast for Round eleven. I've got some breaking

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Speaker 1: news for you right off the bat. About fifty minutes

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Speaker 1: ago or so, I released the dual position updates for

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Speaker 1: next round, so these will flush through in the game

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Speaker 1: when lockout opens after this weekend. The Round twelve updates.

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Speaker 1: There are three big talking points out of it. The first,

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Speaker 1: you probably know if you've been watching this show or

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Speaker 1: keeping track of the news, that liking Kingtogia is all

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Speaker 1: but certain to earn your status. So he will be

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Speaker 1: on Monday, provided he takes the field at halfback this weekend,

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Speaker 1: which he's been named there. It appears a mere formality.

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Speaker 1: The probably more controversial and tougher decisions we're on Zach

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Speaker 1: Hosking and Dylan Egan. Now, both of those guys are

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Speaker 1: highly unlikely to get dual status unless there's a positional

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Speaker 1: pretty much rule them out for dual position status for

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Speaker 1: next week, which, look, it was a tough decision. It's unfortunate.

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Speaker 1: I'll give a full explanation later in the show. But

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Speaker 1: for now, send three questions and comments, guys. I'll get

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Speaker 1: to those in the sec. We've got a big show.

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Speaker 1: No game tonight. Obviously the first game is on Friday,

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Speaker 1: but we still stick to the same time each week.

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Speaker 1: Send three questions. I'll go through my trades, the captaincy

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Speaker 1: explanations on the DP of the DPP guys, plus the

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Speaker 1: Heaps of questions coming through. What's Daniel got to say?

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Speaker 1: What do you think of Horse? To Hosking for this week?

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Speaker 1: Hawsbro will get named for Origin. It is highly likely

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Speaker 1: not to go with due status on Dylan Egan, even

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Speaker 1: though which is a blow for a lot of super coaches.

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