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Speaker 1: You know, we always get a little bit of time

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Speaker 1: from gladys Borough Jeekle in our premiere and we thank

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Speaker 1: her because we know how busy she is. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show premiere. Thank you coming on.

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Speaker 2: Were you singing along then, Gladdys, I really like.

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Speaker 3: That song made me feel better. Yeah, I like it.

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Speaker 2: It's very you.

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Speaker 4: That song, I reckon, I mean, gives you a boost

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Speaker 4: when you addressed as wonder woman at you was it

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Speaker 4: your twenty first or your eighteenth?

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Speaker 2: I reckon? Yeah, a song like that would have gotten

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Speaker 2: you on the dance floor.

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Speaker 1: Hey, just on that. You got to catch up with

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Speaker 1: mum and dad, which was brilliant. You hadn't seen them

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Speaker 1: for a while, Gladys, Well, no, I think.

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Speaker 3: It's them at their place. I hadn't had anyone at

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Speaker 3: time they came over? And I just came over. So

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Speaker 3: it was the first time I had anyone at my

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Speaker 3: I'm always exposed to lots of different people. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: having them over. My dad always wears a tie when

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Speaker 2: Isn't that sense. Did you give him anything for Father's Day, Gladys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I bought him a lovely hand for of all

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Speaker 3: the things he loved her like likes to indulge in.

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Speaker 3: So he was very happy with that, Mike, and he

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Speaker 3: got nice after shave and other things. He was very happy.

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Speaker 1: You haven't better hamp again.

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Speaker 2: You know there's everything in there, Gladys.

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Speaker 4: We can we touch on borders and all things Queensland.

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Speaker 4: You said it perfectly yesterday when you said the simple

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Speaker 4: thinking we need to get Corona levels down to zero

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Speaker 4: under five. But there is a bigger picture here and

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Speaker 4: it's perfect to bring up to for au ok Day

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Speaker 4: because when Corona that has hit two hundred, there was

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Speaker 4: twelve hundred suicides and that's what we've been dealing with.

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Speaker 4: So the bigger issue here is that Corona becomes secondary.

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Speaker 4: And your message yesterday was the medium to long term

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Speaker 4: effects are far greater.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and I just want to make sure that

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Speaker 3: everybody is okay on auok Day. And what's the message

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Speaker 3: we need to get out to that everybody is that

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Speaker 3: no matter what your circumstances are, there isn't a single

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Speaker 3: person in Australia or around the world. You can't say

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Speaker 3: by how things has changed and affected us. So please

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Speaker 3: because there's a lot of stress out there at the moment.

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Speaker 3: But in terms of the borders, I mean yesterday Queens

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Speaker 3: are never had about the same numbers we did, and

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Speaker 3: I just don't understand why all the states. I completely

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Speaker 3: understand Victoria, and that's an exceptional circumstance. They had literally

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Speaker 3: hundreds and hundreds of cases to day and it's good

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Speaker 3: to see that coming down. But apart from Victoria, the

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Speaker 3: rest of Australia shouldn't have borders with each other. And

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Speaker 3: it breaks my heart when you see families separated, people

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Speaker 3: worried about getting medical attention they need. Just a heartache.

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Speaker 3: It is horrible, and not just from the emotional and

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Speaker 3: social perspective, but also economically. I mean, yes, people love

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Speaker 3: it when you say zero cases, but you can't achieve

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Speaker 3: that in the long term. In a pandemic. What you

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Speaker 3: have to do is set up your systems to make

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Speaker 3: sure you're managing the virus with low case every day,

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Speaker 3: get back up, being canceled indefinitely. Businesses who deal with

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Speaker 3: move their staff. Horrible around. It's horrible, and I just

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Speaker 3: managing low case numbers and the community. I've just been

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Speaker 3: overwhelmed by how much everybody's been on this journey together

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Speaker 3: manageable levels is I think the way to manage it.

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Speaker 3: Because we don't know when the vaccine is going to

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Speaker 3: be developed, we don't know when it'll be available, and

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Speaker 3: until then, let's try and live our lives. As freely

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Speaker 1: It's about eradicating community transmissions. We've done very well in

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Speaker 1: New South Wales. I see that South Australia are coming

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Speaker 3: Yeah, South Australia and the Northern Territory have been really

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Speaker 3: sorry for the Act. They haven't had a single case

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Speaker 2: It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: So I just feel Look, I know, I know that

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Speaker 3: it's hard, and I'm thinking to myself, what would I

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Speaker 3: But you know that the notion that you're going to

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Speaker 3: the size of New Southwest. It's not possible. Then what

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Speaker 5: Sorry, what about what does it have to look like

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Speaker 5: them for there to be a change to the Victorian

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Speaker 5: border ban, because I mean, would you support home quarantines

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Speaker 2: You know what, how are we going to get that open?

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Speaker 3: Really good question, and we're looking at all those options.

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Speaker 3: So you know, we don't want to keep the border

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Speaker 3: But whilst Victoria is going through this shutdown, what we

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Speaker 3: we've tried to be as accommodating as possible. At now

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Speaker 3: ironically we've been far more accommodating to Victoria than Queensland

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Speaker 4: The calls like the conference calls that you have here

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: In the main, it's very constructive, I have to say.

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Speaker 3: It's the main. Everybody is extremely respectful and everyone kind

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Speaker 3: obviously all the time. You wouldn't expect this through, but

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Speaker 1: But there's a few people out there that think heard

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Speaker 1: immunity is the way to go Sweden, the way that

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Speaker 1: Sweden has done it.

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Speaker 3: What do you think of that not work? It does

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Speaker 3: time and time again it doesn't work even when you

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Speaker 3: let the virus rip. So herd immunity, for those who

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Speaker 3: number one, evidence shows you can get it again, so

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Speaker 3: we're not convinced that's true. You get it once right,

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Speaker 3: And secondly, even after you've let the virus rip and

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Speaker 3: So herd immunity as a philosophy or a strategy has

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Speaker 3: already proved to be wrong. And I would not even think.

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Speaker 3: I would not even give that another second thought.

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Speaker 4: To be honest, Glad as we always love you're honesty.

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Speaker 4: When you come on the show, we know how busy

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Speaker 4: you are are. You're doing a great job, as we

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Speaker 4: always say, under times that we've never seen before.

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Speaker 2: So thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 3: No, thank you, guys. Have a good day and extra

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Speaker 3: everyone's okay today. I'd be extra nice to each other,

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