WEBVTT - The Rita Panahi Show | 21 August 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:04.439 On scorn US Australia. 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:07.200 This is the Reader Panalty Show. 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:11.640 Good evening and welcome to the Reader Paney Show coming 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:14.720 up tonight. Douglas Murray joins me and he has a 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:18.479 message for the activist journalists at the ABC. You do 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:21.360 not want to miss that the tills are upset about 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:25.000 standards of behavior in Parliament House. Dan Wilde looks at 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:28.040 the tone police scene from the Karen Brigade. 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:29.680 Mi Horowitz is in. 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:33.240 Chicago and we'll have the latest from the ugly scenes 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:37.520 at the Democratic National Convention and the great Alex Epstein 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:42.800 on how Facebook is suppressing factual information about nuclear energy 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:46.800 and a segment that has millions of views, Left is 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:47.320 losing it. 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:54.440 Women were now without electrical not allowed, not without electoral, electoral. 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:57.160 Or political power. 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:02.480 No curry, no kidding. 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:06.680 Let's bring in Daniel Wah, Deputy Executive director of the 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:11.400 Institute of Public Affairs. Dad, let's start with the tills 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:14.480 there are not happy about the standards. 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:15.639 Of behavior in Parliament House. 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:19.360 They had a press conference today saying proper standards are 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:20.479 rarely seen. 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:21.920 Let's hear from. 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:26.040 The woman who only last week called Peter Dutton racist 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:27.160 in Parliament House. 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:28.720 Stop it at the top. 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:30.920 At the end of the day, we hear a lot 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:34.920 of talk about commitment to better standards, better behavior, but 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:38.880 that can only be modeled by the leadership. All those 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:42.600 MPs take their queue from their leaders. They are elected 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.600 leaders of their parties, from David Little Proud as a 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:47.920 leader of the Nationals, Peter Dutton, the leader of the 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:52.760 Liberal Party, Anthony Albernizi, the leader of the Labor Party. 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:56.320 Dan it's a good that she knows who leads each party. 0:01:56.400 --> 0:02:00.520 That's refreshing. She didn't mention the Greens there, I think, 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:02.240 But I do wonder whether. 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:06.320 This is a case of people in glasshouses not throwing stones. 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:08.440 It was literally days. 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:11.320 Ago when she had to withdraw a comment calling Peter 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:13.480 Dutton racist in parliament. 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:14.280 That's right. 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:17.160 It is the pot calling the kettle black. You know, 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:19.960 just look at your own behavior. Of course, the Teals 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:21.360 are the ones that thought it was a good idea 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:23.919 to divide the country by race in the Constitution, and 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:26.400 they're going to lect to everybody else about parliamentary behavior. 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.680 You're right, she didn't point out the Greens. I suspect 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:31.800 the reason for that is because the Teals are just 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:34.919 cashed up Greens. They vote you know, analysis on Sky 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.520 News yesterday revealed they vote with the Greens sixty percent 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:40.120 of the time, coalition a third of the time. So 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.400 how are they really independent and representing the views of 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:44.040 their community. 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:46.120 And I won't even part like it wasn't. 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:50.840 Just that they weren't supposedly independent, but they portrayed themselves 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:56.480 as conservative alternatives. They were conservatives, they cared about the environment. 0:02:56.600 --> 0:03:00.799 That was kind of the narrative that was pushed. And 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.720 there are nothing of the sort as you've just explained. 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.600 No, look, that's exactly right. And they're a part of 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:09.000 a growing cohort of these inner city elites that are 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:13.280 not interested in a debate. They you know, anytime somebody 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:16.080 raises a different opinion, they will try and silence people. 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:18.880 And they say it's about parliamentary behavior. Well, you're allowed 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:21.360 to have a debate in a democracy, particularly in parliament House. 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:23.600 And they are not interested in debating the substance of 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:24.120 the issues. 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:26.720 No, And to me it is tone policing. 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:30.600 Where do they get off telling others how they can 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:34.040 express themselves. Of course, you don't cross the line into 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:38.080 a straight out abuse like Gazali indulged in calling pinadutt 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.680 and racist and you obviously wouldn't say anything threatening. But 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:44.560 if you I've got robust discussions happening in Parliament House, 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:47.120 well that's the place for it. I don't think that's 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:49.440 something to hold a press conference about. 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:49.920 Now. 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:53.560 We spoke on Monday about the Environment Minister using Indigenous 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:57.119 heritage laws to ban a one billion dollar gold mine 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:00.160 project in New South Wales, and now we learn Ai 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:03.840 Pulvasek is refusing to release the advice that led to 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:08.280 that ban, which did take the resource industry by surprise. 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:14.000 Tamil Pulversek made the decision despite local Aboriginal land councils 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:18.840 saying there were no unmanageable concerns about the proposed site. 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:22.800 Dan the Environment Minister is defending this decision. We know 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:25.200 it's going to cost eight hundred jobs, it's going to 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:30.160 cost New South Wales around two hundred million in royalties 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:34.600 and taxes. Surely we need a little bit more transparency here. 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.400 Well, there's a pattern of repeated behavior. We've seen this 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:40.039 with the whole Nature Positive Laws, which is the big 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.440 new green bureaucracy that this government wants to bring in. 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.400 We put in a freedom of information request a couple 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:47.720 of months ago to the Department and they said there 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.600 was something like two hundred and twenty thousand documents relating 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:53.000 to the nature positive laws, but they weren't going to 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:56.440 release them into public. So there's a pattern here of 0:04:56.680 --> 0:05:00.120 having closed workshop meetings with stakeholders. We have to sign 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:04.200 confidentiality or non disclosure agreements in order to view legislation. 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.120 We've also seen that with religious freedom laws. 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:08.680 Again, what's the point of going through that process if 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.240 you can't actually then speak about what you've seen well. 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:13.480 Because the government just wants to say they've consulted, They 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:15.040 don't want people to be heard and they don't want 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:17.520 people to speak out. So you know something else is 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.120 going on here. But you know this is only going 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:21.960 to be the beginning of what we see in terms 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:25.200 of this anti development agenda from this government. 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:29.880 And you've got people within the indigenous communities saying these 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:34.280 Aboriginal heritage laws are being misused, they've been corrupted, hijacked, 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:38.040 whatever way you want to describe it. And again that's 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:42.520 not only divisive, but they're using that in really in 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.880 a cynical manner to hold back this development at a 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:49.960 time where we need investment we need jobs, we need 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:53.760 more taxes and loyalties to go to our state governments well. 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:56.920 Exactly, and depending on the location of approject it can 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:58.800 often be Indigenous people that are some of the main 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:02.000 beneficiaries of these projects, whether it is through the royalty 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:05.520 distribution as you mentioned, or through employment opportunities, which is 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:08.200 exactly what people on the ground need. This also has 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.680 I think the vibes of the Western Australian cultural heritage 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:18.120 laws in using claim tangible or intangible Indigenous cultural heritage 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:22.200 as a mechanism to stop development and to stop investment. 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:25.039 So I think that this may be a sign of 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:25.720 what is to come. 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:28.080 Now it must be a day ending. 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:32.160 And why because the Guardian is published another hysterical piece 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:34.560 of nonsense. I mean, it happens daily. I don't know 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:37.800 why we even highlight it anymore. This time they're pushing 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:41.000 the theory that Elon Musk could plan and insurrection if 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.120 Donald Trump loses the presidential election. 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:45.280 Let me read this extract to you. 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:49.880 Britain's twenty twenty four summer riots were Elon Musk's trial balloon. 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:51.159 He got away with it. 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:55.680 And if you're not terrified by both the extraordinary super 0:06:56.040 --> 0:07:00.640 national power of that and the potential consequences should be. 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:03.360 Are you terrified, Dan, Well, what. 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:07.440 I'm terrified is the censorial nature of the left. I mean, 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.480 in the UK they are putting people in jail for 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:13.400 putting memes and opinion on social media. I don't think 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:15.720 the Guardian has spoken out against that, of course not 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:20.720 they support it. They support it because they fundamentally you know, 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:24.040 as it currently stands, democracy is only working for one side. 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.360 If you speak out as a mainstream citizen in the 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:29.560 Western world, you will be brutally shut down or canceled 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:32.360 or put in jail. That is where we are. Twitter 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:35.200 is perhaps one of the only forums that is left 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:37.640 on the Internet where people can have almost unfettered speech. 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.440 Of course, with unfettered speech, people will say all kinds 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:44.240 of horrible things that should be regulated by the platform 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.480 in some way. But in terms of actually having it 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:48.240 going on there and putting your opinion, you can't do 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.720 it on Facebook. You mentioned the nuclear poster banned on 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.400 or sense it on Facebook. So this is one of 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:56.320 the last avenues for free speech in the Western world, 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.120 and the left is mercilessly trying to shut it down. 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:04.800 It's just like if they have a conservative program or columnist, 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.200 even if ninety five percent of the media leans the 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:10.160 other way. They want to shut down that last remaining 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:11.680 contrary opinion. 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:13.600 Dan Wild, thank you so much for your time. 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:17.280 Thank you joining me now is best selling author Douglas. 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:18.080 Murray Douglas. 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:21.119 The Democratic National Convention is underway, and we are told 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:22.360 the Democrats are. 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:23.200 All of our joy. 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:27.080 But inside and outside the venue, it appears that the 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:30.400 modern left is devoid of joy. There are violent protests 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:33.600 from a range of activists outside in Chicago and inside 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:34.240 the convention. 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:37.600 We've had plenty of vitriol, including. 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:42.240 President Biden's manic rant where he repeated many debunk lies 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:42.920 like this. 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:46.840 Well, the president was asked what he thought had happened. 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:50.800 Donald Trump said, night quote, there are very fine people 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:51.920 on both sides. 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:57.760 My god, that's what he said. That is what he said, 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:03.599 and what he meant. I realized, headless of the admission. 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:06.720 Of my dead son, I could not stay in the sidelines. 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:10.800 Very rare, Douglas. 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:14.720 Even Snopes has debunked this vague news. But President Biden 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:20.000 persists with this inflammatory lie even after an assassination attempt. 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:25.559 Almost so President Trump's short dead Why do the Democrats 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.640 persist with this lie. Why are they so tied to 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:29.360 this narrative? 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:34.040 Absolutely, it's just one of a set of completely debunkable 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.319 lies that just should have no place of politics. If 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:40.360 people want to stop lying in politics, they should start 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:45.640 by just not lying themselves. Joe Biden has been using 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:52.560 this complete misquotation from what former President Trump said after 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:59.000 the Charlottesville appalling scenes there twenty seventeen. He has kept 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:02.120 using this claim that Donald Trump simply said find people 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.600 on both sides, as opposed to some of the people 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:08.160 trying to defend statues in the area will find people, 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.880 but went on to say that there was no excuse 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:13.640 to the neo Nazis, white supremacists, and someone who were 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:17.440 on show that day. Joe Biden has had plenty of 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:23.040 opportunity to correct himself, but he just doesn't. He's determined 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:24.840 to stick to the narrative. And if you look at 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:28.320 that very strange performance of his last night, it's a 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:33.520 complete replica of performances he's done before. He talks about Charlottesville. 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:37.240 He claims that Donald Trump praised the neo Nazis. He 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:41.760 then cites his late son Bo and it's as if 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:46.840 Biden knows this will fire himself up, and he hopes 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:50.840 will fire his supporters up. It's the same thing with 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:53.760 the Democrats trying to claim that form President Trump referred 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.400 to a blood bath coming if he comes back as 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:59.760 opposed to a blood bath for the automobile industry, if 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.800 Harris woure to get in. But you know, as I say, 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:07.880 if people actually care about lying in politics, just don't lie. 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:13.439 And these are just straight out, completely verifiable lies that 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:19.000 Biden is telling about the person who was his opponent. 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:23.200 I think it's just appalling. And if Trump was doing this, 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:25.280 people would call it out. I see no reason why 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:29.600 they shouldn't do it if Biden is, especially if. 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:33.920 It had been an assassination attempt against President Biden, and 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:38.240 you still put forward these really ugly inflammatory lies. 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:38.480 Now. 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:43.240 President Biden was also angry about the Israel Hamas war. 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:47.240 He wants a permanency swine. He thinks that the anti 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:52.840 Israeli protesters outside the venue have a point. Biden, let's 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.760 have it. Listen to what he said about these protests. 0:11:55.520 --> 0:12:00.880 And finally, finally finally deliver a cease fireing and this war. 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.480 Those protesters out in the street, they have. 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:10.080 A point, Douglas, your reaction to that, and looking forward, 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:13.280 what sort of foreign policy can we expect from a 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:17.880 Harris Walls administration. Kamala has also made it clear she 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:22.040 does not see this war through a binary lens. 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:26.760 To use her words, well, I mean, again, such a 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:31.319 bizarre performance by Biden. I mean, he's so angry, so 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:34.240 so sort of filled with fury, which I just can't 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:37.319 help thinking looks completely put on. I have to say, 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:41.319 it just looks completely staged and fake to me, that performance, 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:44.240 as if he's trying to show there's there's there's a 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:48.120 life in the older guy yet. But yeah, he whipped 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.120 himself up to that, and then that very strange clane 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:52.520 that people outside have a point. Well, well, yes, I 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.800 mean everybody wants the killing to stop. Everyone wants the 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:59.520 water to stop. The follow on question, the only important 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:05.719 question is on whose terms? Is it once Hamaz has 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:10.280 been destroyed or surrendered and given back the remaining Israeli hostages, 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:14.640 or is it just stop now because everybody hates killing? Well, 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:16.959 I have to say, I mean, I'm not sure how 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.440 much Joe Biden is able to think this through anymore. 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:24.160 But I'm not sure whether Kamala Harris has much of 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:27.200 an ability to think it through either. I mean the 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:30.760 banalities that come from these people outside the DNC in 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:33.840 Chicago this week, by the way, which include people flying 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:37.439 Hamaz flags and wearing has Bilar uniforms, which by the way, 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.360 has prescribed terrorist organizations ought to be an offense in 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:43.400 the United States. But let's park that for now. If 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:46.440 he thinks they have a point, well, why doesn't he 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:51.280 say to them that if you want to free Gaza, 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:54.280 the best thing to do is to free Gaza from Hamaz. 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:55.880 Why doesn't he. 0:13:55.920 --> 0:14:00.559 Correct these people? Because what he has realized in last year, 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:04.240 and what I think Kamala Harris, if she does become president, 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:09.120 will realize very fast, is these kinds of protesters are 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.720 not going to stop with a little bit of on 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:15.240 the one side. On the other ism, they burned the 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:20.160 American flag in the Capitol of DC, as well as 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:23.920 the Israeli flag. These protesters, these are not some kind 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:27.400 of you know, simply want to cause a cease fire 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:31.080 and stop for killing sort of Diali Lama or I 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:36.080 don't know, Buddhists sort of you know, pacifists. Far far 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:36.680 from it. 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:41.320 You're so right there They've shown us who they are 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.960 over and over again, and some politicians in the media 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:48.600 refused to see it. Now on the issue of the economy, 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.120 and it's probably the number one issue in America along 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.080 with the illegal immigration crisis. 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:53.920 You've written in the. 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:57.920 New York Post about the choice Americans face in November, 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:01.400 and when it comes to comic policies, you argue the 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:02.800 choices between those who. 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:05.360 Will grow the size of the economy and those. 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:08.680 Who will grow the size of the state. Kamala Harris 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:12.840 is arguing strongly that Americans should continue to march forward. 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:14.560 Is that how you say it? 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:18.720 Yes, of course, because in the same way that Joe 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:24.800 Biden sees all things as being either him or the Nazis. 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.000 In the case of Kamala Harris, of course, her great 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:31.000 insight into politics is that we should go forwards, not backwards. 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:34.200 And actually, as I mentioned in that piece in your post, 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.840 when it comes to economy, going backwards a bit wouldn't 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:41.160 be such a bad thing. The economy between twenty sixteen 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:45.200 twenty twenty did far better, and that's until the COVID 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:51.040 disaster did far better, certainly than the Harris Biden administration 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:54.040 has managed economically in the four years since, and you 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.280 simply need to look at any of the figures, whether 0:15:56.320 --> 0:16:01.920 it's median household income, whether it's like the rise in 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:05.800 median household income for Black Americans, by the way, which 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.920 was better under Trump than under Obama, as well as 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:12.080 much better than it has been under Trump, Harris, if 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:15.920 you look at just things like inflation, which is, you know, 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:20.160 causing just devastation to Americans paying their bills each month, 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:24.120 or you go to something like the attainability of getting 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:28.120 on the household ladder, first time home ownership is is 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:30.800 tougher now than it's been in America at any point 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:35.480 since nineteen eighty four. And so when Kamala Harris says, 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:38.760 you know, we need to go forwards into this great world, 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.360 which by the way, I've been the second most important 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:43.200 person in for the last four years, but give me 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:45.600 a chance for another four years, because that's where it 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.680 will really improve, I think people just need to look 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:53.160 at the figures. The figures in the economy under Biden 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:58.920 Harris have been really pretty woeful. And Harris should certainly 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:02.360 come up with a better plan than let's go forward. 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:05.320 If she's going to persuade the electorate in November. 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:12.520 Well, given some of her economic policies about price controls, 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:14.480 I think the less she says, the better will be 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:19.199 for her, because it's wow, she's quite radical in some 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:23.200 of those positions. Now, on a different issue, we've spoken 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:28.120 about the attacks against you personally, Elon Musk, from some 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:32.000 very prominent voices in the UK who want you both arrested. 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:33.840 Some are calling for you to be jailed. 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:39.040 Our own ABC here in Australia is also a lover 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:45.160 of censorship. It's a state funded, taxpayer funded broadcaster. Their 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:49.600 Media Watch program claims that the ex owner, Elon Musk, 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:53.440 is increasingly using his platform to spread misinformation and in 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:58.879 flames social division, and they ask can governments and regulators 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:05.000 tame the media mogul? Is that really what's happening, Douglas? 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:07.560 And is this a good use of our one billion 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:10.600 plus dollars of taxpayer money that goes to the ABC 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:11.920 every single year? 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:13.400 Exactly? 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:19.080 I mean it's amazing, isn't it. Reta in Australia, in Canada, 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:22.840 in Britain, with all these countries among others, have national 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:26.120 broadcasters and as you say, they're in receipt of huge 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:32.560 amounts of public money and when I see those completely 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:39.240 indentured broadcasters attacking day after day Elon Musk as having 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:43.800 too much power in the media. Sorry, guys, you are 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:47.440 the guys who were literally given a monopoly which has 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:49.639 to be broken up by the free market. You're the 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:54.120 guys who are still subsidized, and you're the guys who 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:59.119 can pump out disinformation all the time under the guise 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:02.960 of a fish the official sort of you know, version 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:07.560 of events, and still ridiculously have some legitimacy for doing so. 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:10.560 The reason why they're going for Elon Musk, among other things, 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:15.160 is that he's beating them all effectively in the ratings. 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:17.040 Ex. 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:21.639 Twitter under his ownership has become so much more respected 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:26.399 and used as a news source than ABC and others 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:29.680 that of course they're concerned. Of course they're worried. They 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:34.040 should be, because it's perfectly possible that it's not just 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:37.800 evil Elon Musk that they've got to rail against. Actually, 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:41.639 the problem for them is the audience. They are losing 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:45.399 their audience all the time. They keep their billion dollar subsidies, 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:48.080 oh yeah, but they're losing audience all the time, and 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:51.080 they're losing them, among other things, to Elon Musk and 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:53.720 so of course they're better. I don't think they're going 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:57.760 to have much luck extraditing Elon Musk and the few 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:03.679 people are complete cranks in the UK who've been calling 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:05.879 for some kind of censure of me. I've got a 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:09.840 horrible surprise for them. They're not going to silence me either. 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:11.679 You might as well give it up, guys. 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:17.880 Well, they are sold against a free speech in the UK, 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:22.080 the two tier policing, the two tier justice system. 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:26.399 There is something that is concerning people around the world. 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:28.520 I do wonder if people in the UK realize that 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:30.400 a lot of us around the world are looking on 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:33.920 in horror and at a time where in the UK 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:38.920 violent criminals are including killers, are having their jail times 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:44.200 slashed because of overcrowding, they are prioritizing locking up what 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:48.199 they call far right extremists. Let's hear here from Mark 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:50.120 Fairhurst on the BBC. 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:53.400 We will guarantee a prison style. We will make sure 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:56.000 that those people who need to be in prison will 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:58.640 be in prison, not necessarily in the area where they live. 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:01.480 They may be two three hundred miles away from home, 0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:03.760 but we will guarantee people at prison. 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:04.080 Self. 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:09.119 Douglas, you've written in the Spectator about the persecution of 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:12.960 the plubs as you've put it, explain what you mean 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:17.720 by that and this assault against free spreech in the UK, 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:21.400 and it really is I think quite effective because you're 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:25.760 seeing people being arrested for online posts, for retweeting something, 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:29.640 for attending a rally that was violent, even if they 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:33.680 didn't participate in any of the violence. You can see 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:37.600 why people are refraining from saying what they think. 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:41.159 Yeah, the point of this piece, and of course they 0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:45.840 use plebs in inverted commas. I mean, it's My point 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:49.399 is is that I suspect that the authorities, if they 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:51.280 try to go down this route, will have quite a 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:54.600 hard time, as I say, taking out some elon Musk, 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:58.480 and they'd have a hard time taking out in that case. 0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:01.520 I cited Rowan Atkinson, great comedian who some years ago 0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:07.520 defended the speech laws in the UK against further encroachment 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:12.480 against the freedom of speech in Britain. As Ron Atkinson 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:14.239 said then ten years ago he said, I don't think 0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:17.679 they're going to kind of come for me, but I 0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:20.800 think that the people who have less of a profile 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:24.000 or no profile could be very vulnerable in this situation. 0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:27.120 I said what Ron Atkinson saw ten years or more 0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:30.920 ago is exactly what's happening now, because actually what's happening 0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:32.600 is that as well as by the way that the 0:22:32.640 --> 0:22:35.440 sudden discovery that our prisoners have got masses of room 0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:39.480 in them apparently, and the discovery by the police, who 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:42.760 can't solve a burglary in most areas in the UK 0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:45.879 and haven't for years, their discovery that they can be 0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:49.120 a really crack hit squad when it comes to police 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:52.800 sing Twitter is an amazing discovery for them and apart 0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:54.720