1 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: Hello, super Coaches, and welcome to our Hot Takes podcast. 2 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: The panel are going to put their reputations on the 3 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: line and come up with some bold predictions today. That 4 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: will be absolutely no problem for Jet Hatton, who basically 5 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: does that every week on this podcast. How's your prep going. 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: Mate, I've changed my team quite a bit over the 7 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: last few days or so, so I don't think I'm 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 2: going to lean in fluid to the pod heavy thing 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: that I did last year. It didn't really work out 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 2: for me. I got a tart off at the back 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: end of the year. But I've certainly got a few 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: pods for today, mate, And. 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 1: We also wear fresh from and with Max as well, 14 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: fresh from shooting a draft podcast, the first ever draft podcast, 15 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: so look out for that matter. What seventh podcast of 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: the year. We've got Cheapy Bibles, Mid Range Bibles, Top 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: Guns episodes. Have a look at the back catalog on YouTube. 18 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: How are your preparations shaping up for classic. 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: Good I've made. 20 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 4: I've only made three trades since last week, but I 21 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 4: feel like those three trades have completely overhauled my team. 22 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 4: I'm no longer on the double half back cheapy approach, 23 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 4: and I've with some of my other trades, I've used 24 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 4: that to massively upgrade and I'm actually just jumping on 25 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 4: board the Jaden Campbell train. So going good. I've only 26 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 4: made three trades, but I feel like they've completely overhauled 27 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 4: my team. 28 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: And Max Brighton, president of the Jaden Campbell fan clubs 29 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: here as well, how are your preps going. 30 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 3: I'm great to be he mic to have a moment 31 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 3: off time from worshiping the real JZ up there but 32 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 3: the Gold Coast Titans. But now that's going good. The team, 33 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm doing those tinkers as well, but 34 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: it's looking really good. I feel like I'm really confident 35 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 3: with the structure. It's just the names and how they're 36 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 3: going to fall on t LT that will really sort 37 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: out when Push comes to shop. But I'm happy with 38 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 3: how things are shaken out. 39 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: In the last sort of week or so, I can 40 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: two really good cheapies have come out of the woodworks 41 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: at the Titans, in cially Feymoni and Josh Patston. Patston 42 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: was already on the raidar anyway, but he's essentially been 43 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: locked in to start in the back row, so he's 44 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: a must. Looks like CI gets a wing spot so 45 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: we've got too cheap. He's come along, so there's no 46 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: point in doing this double cheapie in the harms anymore. 47 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: So I can get a gun in the halves. I've 48 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: gone with your boy Nico good Man. 49 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in for a big year, so I can 50 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 2: say there but yeah. 51 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: And I've managed to find some money for paying halfs 52 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: as well. Nice super coach. Plus it's twenty nine to 53 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: ninety five for the year. But you've got a free trial, 54 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: get in there. I love looking at all the old 55 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: player stats. You can look at anyone's stats from you know, 56 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight if you wanted to, if there 57 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: was a player playing back then Projections most popular players 58 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: is really useful as well. So fiddle around, have a look. 59 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: You've got a free trial until round two before you 60 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: have to pay. Now it's the hot take episode. It's 61 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: going to run through the panel and give a bold prediction. 62 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: It has to be bold. I reckon if someone if 63 00:02:58,200 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: it's not bold enough, we can get them to do 64 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: it again. I reckon, that's what we do. So we'll 65 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: start with you will so cheap. He is a hot 66 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: take on the cheapies, A really left field guy who 67 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: could come good this season. We're not talking. You can't 68 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: say Jonah Peasant for example. 69 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, well we mentioned before Josh Patston. He's currently only 70 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 4: at sixteen percent ownership. I feel like, come around one, 71 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 4: that's going to be way higher. But I have a 72 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 4: good feeling that there's a genuine lack of quality. Cheapis 73 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 4: at two r F I think, and he's someone that 74 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 4: is actually going to start. 75 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 3: We think. 76 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 4: So he's someone who I think come around one if 77 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 4: if he is, if it looks like he's going to start, 78 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 4: I feel I have a good feeling about him. 79 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: Yep, sixteen percent is way too low for him. He 80 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: should be in almost fifty percent of team's cheapy hot take. 81 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: For me, it's he's probably borderline cheap. He's about mid 82 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: three hundred K. But I just just love to look 83 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: at this bloke. Guy sent you a video of him 84 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: when I was watching Netherlands rugby union highlights all buish Stawa, 85 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: just a complete So this bloke, he just snaps people. 86 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: Madge's liking him to Rubin Wiki, which is which is 87 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: pretty big praise. He's tipped to get the left edge 88 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: Bronco spot if Peter Corus stays out but even if 89 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: Peter Core is healthy, he's no certainly need to be 90 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 2: picked because as we saw all the way through last year, 91 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: he was in and out of the team. So I 92 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: think this guy, they're going to give him a red 93 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: hot crack and he just lays blokes out, So he's 94 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,239 Speaker 2: probably a dull one to be suspended at some stage. 95 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, did you get down the rabbit hole of 96 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: looking at Dutch rugby union highlights? 97 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: I just looked his name up on Twitter and I 98 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 2: found a bunch of them show up and I was like, Oh, 99 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: how good's this three minutes each and I was like, oh, 100 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: this guy's a psycho, so he. 101 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: Was absolutely I think people out just showed it to 102 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: the boys before what's your cheapy hot take? 103 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: This guy is not in a lot of predicted starting thirteens, 104 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 3: but I reckon he should be. And it's Maverick guy Tigers. 105 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 3: Now we have been crying out someone to come and 106 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 3: play Locke, who's not a prop for probably four or 107 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 3: five years. Somehow it always just ends up that it's 108 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 3: Twil or it's a Neil Poli who I can't even 109 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 3: spell lateral footwork. But mav guy fresh from the penwith Panthers. 110 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 3: He's a good player, good based, good power, massive future, 111 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: biggest starting lock spot two one hundred and ninety two 112 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 3: thousand bucks sign up, and. 113 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: He's come through that Panderith nursery as well, so you 114 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: know that he's gotten some good backing for me. I'm 115 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: sticking with my club, just like you did with the Tigers. 116 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: Jacob halen Gahu is a guy who really stands out 117 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: for me. I just think he's got something about him. 118 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: I can't quite see the path for him this season 119 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: because they've got guys like Luciano le Lua. Egan is 120 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: going to come back from an ACL injury relatively early 121 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: in the year. Jaden Sewer is going to be playing 122 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: on an edge, and he's an origin player. Ryan Couchman's 123 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: coming back from injury. Toby Couchman can play on the 124 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: edge too. They've got a lot of edge players. I 125 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: don't know how he's quite going to fit in, but 126 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: I've got a funny feeling that Alen Garhu at only 127 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: one point nine percent, may not be a cheapie right 128 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: from the start, but at some stage we're going to 129 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: be talking about him as a super coach buyer and 130 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: not just a cheapy but he'll end up being a 131 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: sort of it could end up being like a fifty 132 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 1: average cheapye as well, what do you reckon? 133 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: I think it's a good call. I think you're right 134 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: to say that it's probably not gonna be round one, 135 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: but at some point, like he's going to step in 136 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 3: and people are going to start to know his name. 137 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 1: Top gun hot take. So this is the left field 138 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: guy in the keeper department and who you think he's 139 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: going to shock everyone? 140 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 4: Well, I'll say a few names, so hopefully I'm not 141 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 4: taking any of you boys picks. But I think the 142 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 4: fact that everyone is going with Keanu Kinney and Sue 143 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 4: Faralongo means that a lot of the gun fullbacks are 144 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 4: seriously low ownership. I think Scott Drinkwater is only about 145 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 4: ten percent. But I want to talk about James de 146 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 4: Desko and Tom Traboyvich, who are both extremely low ownership. 147 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 4: And obviously Tom has injury concerns, but James de Desco 148 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 4: had an absolute career season last year, and these are 149 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 4: two guys that could finish at the top of the 150 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 4: position very easily, but just no one's really looking at 151 00:06:58,480 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 4: them at the moment. 152 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: I've got Turbo in there is my He's the guy 153 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 2: that I've been thinking around on my team and I 154 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 2: was like, did I do it? 155 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: Thirty percent? 156 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: Owner shit finished last year with a bang. Obviously we 157 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: all know there's an injury risk with Turbo and that's 158 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: the game you play. But they have a round three 159 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: by which also hurts. But their first three games are 160 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: at Brookie Tom Turbo Brookie is just awesome. One of 161 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: those on a Sunday. I think it's Round two against 162 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: Newcastle Automatic Captain. Automatic captain. Mainly's forward pack is going 163 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: to be a lot better this year as well than 164 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: what they were last year, so he's going to have 165 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: a better base to playoff. I think they're a better 166 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 2: team without Cherry Evans as well, So yeah, I think 167 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: Turbo's are lock and load. 168 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: Getting an itchy finger. I can't go back there every year. 169 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: I bring in Turbo three times, so I'm just going 170 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: to sit back and watch it happen and hope he 171 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: gets injured. Who's your one? 172 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: This guy is flying seriously under the raidar and I 173 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 3: can't really figure out why. And it's Joam Hughes. So yeah, 174 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 3: this is the cheapest that he has been in about 175 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: five seasons. This dude again, he's a seventy averaging super 176 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 3: Coach player, sixty five doverage last year because he got 177 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 3: injured in three separate NFL games, like broke his arm 178 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 3: a couple of times, had shoulder issues, had concussions as well. 179 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,559 Speaker 3: So you're only paying six hundred and thirty one thousand 180 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: bucks for him. It's not that much more than the 181 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 3: likes of Mitch Moses, who are really popular. He's only 182 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: five percent owned. And the best thing about it as well, 183 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: one of the best abilities in super Coast's availability is 184 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: too doesn't have to buy until round fifteen. Yeah, so 185 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: I reckon if you can afford to have two guns 186 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: in your half back spot like I have at the moment, 187 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: he's really really good shout Yeah. 188 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: I like that, and I hadn't thought of it, to 189 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: be honest. But he won't have Ellie Katoa running off him. 190 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: Does that worry you at all? 191 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: Well, he might have Zach Lomax. 192 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 193 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 3: I think Ellie has been there for a while now, 194 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 3: but he hasn't been there the whole time. But Hughes's 195 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: running game is the thing that's you know, he's going 196 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 3: to have to take up and take a lot of 197 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 3: ownership in that space without Papenhausend as well. So I 198 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: think he's going to get a lot of ball. I 199 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 3: don't think who cares next who He doesn't sorry, I 200 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 3: don't think he cares who was next to him. I 201 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 3: think he's going to run, and he's going to set 202 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 3: up tries and he's going to score fantastically well. 203 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: Regardless, I just assumed for this segment that you would 204 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: talk about Jaden Campbell, so I did jot him down. 205 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 3: At three percent talking about him too. 206 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you talk about it first because you have 207 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: said in one of your your Team Revealed story that 208 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: he is essentially the next big thing in se coach. 209 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: He's a big keeper. 210 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: I think he's the next great super coach player of 211 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 3: our generation, right Like he's he's an accumulator in the 212 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 3: style that we've come to know and love in the 213 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 3: Nico Heines Mold and this guy, I think he's sort 214 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 3: of surprises a few people how he does it. When 215 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 3: you dig into the numbers, like you think of Jayden, 216 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 3: can you think he's going to need a few tries, 217 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 3: He's going to need a few line breaks, going to 218 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 3: need a few flashy players in order to get that 219 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: average up. But I okon that's rubbish because this guy's 220 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: base and power, just by virtue of that full back 221 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 3: background is elite. It's forty in the position, which is 222 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 3: better than the Clear and the Nickeos of the world. 223 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 3: And he gets ten points in goalkicks out there. He's 224 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 3: an absolute sharpshooter. So this guy gets fifty points for 225 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: doing up his boots. Basically he walks onto the field. 226 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 3: He has a good game that's easily pushing one hundred. 227 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 3: He's an absolute star. The tough thing with him, particularly 228 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 3: from a starting perspective, is that he's probably close to 229 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 3: what that value is, like, you're not necessarily going to 230 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 3: make a whole bunch of money. But he's going to 231 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 3: average seventy five this season, and I think he's a 232 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 3: really great alternative to the likes to Nico and Clear 233 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: at the position. 234 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: I do like it. The guy who I think could 235 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,599 Speaker 1: go from sort of on the edge of being a 236 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: keeper to being an absolute keeper this year is Toby Cauchman. 237 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: He looked like he was going to do it last 238 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: year average sixty six in non injury effected games, but 239 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: he had those two injury effected games. So he's priced 240 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: on an average of sixty. I think that's still I mean, 241 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: it's definitely unders I think he could average around seventy 242 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: this year with no klemor, no debellance, so they've lost 243 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: two really big middles. I think he could step up 244 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: this season into that upper air schelon of props. And 245 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: the other guy who I can't believe is only well, 246 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: I can believe he's at four four point six percent ownership, 247 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: it's Trey Fuller. Now, we don't know if he's going 248 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: to get that fullbacks spot at the Dolphins because I've 249 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: got Hamerso Tabui Ford as well. But if he does 250 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: at four point six percent and only I think it's 251 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: five hundred and sixty K eighty eight average in four games, 252 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,719 Speaker 1: maybe still he doesn't have that base, but he will 253 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: be very exciting to watch. 254 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, even with the like Keanu Kinney and Sue Fealongo. 255 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 3: If if we find out the Tray. 256 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 4: Faller is actually going to start the year at fullback, 257 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people will have to re 258 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 4: evaluate that approach. 259 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: And if that happens before draft nights as well, he'll 260 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: be coming in quite low in dust order as well. 261 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: Onto the player to avoid. Who are you thinking here? 262 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 4: My number one player to avoid is Brandon Smith. He's 263 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 4: so popular at the moment, and there's there's a couple 264 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 4: of good, cheapy options at hooker, but for me, he's 265 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 4: just someone to avoid. He's still it seems like he's 266 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 4: going to get the start at South, but he's still 267 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 4: not guaranteed. They've got Petter Mamozel's there as well, so 268 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 4: they're going to be splitting in it. Yeah, so they're 269 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 4: going to be splitting minutes. And I just think it's 270 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 4: a massive trap. 271 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 2: When you say there's cheap options that who are not. 272 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 4: Well, there's like read they're more expensive like Reid Marney, 273 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 4: Jake Simkin, Bailey popular. 274 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: But I'm not that. 275 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: You've got a pick till you know you don't want 276 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: to have, you know, eight hundred nine hundred thousand and 277 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 2: your hook a spot when you're probably only going to 278 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: play one with them every week. 279 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 4: I know, I'm just I do not want to. I 280 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 4: would rather spend up and get Jake Simkin in as 281 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 4: my other hooker than go with Brandon Smith as my backup. 282 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 3: I've got brand Smith my backup. Every day, the work 283 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 3: he's just I like that he's cheap and I'm never 284 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 3: gonna have to play him nless he's on the by. 285 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 3: But I'll take your point. He could be rubbish this year, 286 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 3: but I mean Riley Smith was pretty rubbish to start 287 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: last year and it didn't hurt me. 288 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 4: I will admit that at that price that it doesn't 289 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 4: won't take a lot for him to make cash. 290 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just not into it at all. That's 291 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 3: goods top take, yeah, big time to me. 292 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 2: It's Ethan Sanders. A lot of guys have him in 293 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: there as their second half back. I just don't think 294 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: there's any certainty that he even gets picked in round one. 295 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 2: And if he does, Raiders are a team with the 296 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 2: top four ambition, and if you know, he stinks it 297 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: up the first four rounds, they're going to move him on. 298 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 2: They've got Kabby black White in the wings. They've got 299 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: Chevy Stewart there as well, who can play fullback. And 300 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: when Ko Weeks came to the Raiders, everyone forgets, but 301 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: he played seven for most of the time there and 302 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: succeeded pretty well. So I think Ethan Sanders is no 303 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 2: good thing there. And you know you've also got Dan Atkinson. There, 304 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: you've got Joey Walsh. You know one's really talking about either. 305 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think there's a lot of other options 306 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 2: that I'm going. 307 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: To go with. Actually, sold Ethan Sanders the other day 308 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: for your boy Nico Heinz, so I agree with that. 309 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: Who's your Noga. 310 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 3: Another half back feel like on the halfback train is 311 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 3: Mitch Moses. Now, he's really popular, particularly among serious super 312 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 3: coaches who can just see the logic that will get 313 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 3: the goalkick most likely gets a goalkicking back this year 314 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 3: easy ten point gain to his average, so there's money 315 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 3: to be made. Mitch Moses, He's a definition of a 316 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 3: rollercoaster rye like. He will average sixty to sixty five 317 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 3: on this season, there's no doubt about that. But it's 318 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: going to be off the back of a ton of 319 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 3: forties and the occasional ton. And for me, knowing that 320 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 3: he's that type of player and seeing how tough the 321 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 3: Paramatta draw is, they go hard game, good game, hard game, 322 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 3: good game. Like I don't see a consistent iron where 323 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 3: he's going to make you that money that you're wanting 324 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 3: to trade him up to a keeper. But for me, 325 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 3: I just can't jump on the Mitch Blazes. 326 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: I agree on that one. I had him in at 327 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: one stage, but once I looked a little bit deeper, 328 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: I feel exactly the same as you for me, Jacob Kraz. 329 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: If you look at my team up on site right now, 330 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: I actually have Jacob Karaz in there. I've since taken 331 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: him out now. The reason is pre season injury scare, 332 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: which is a bit of a blow. It's not the 333 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: end of the world. He's probably still going to play 334 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: a trial, but he still loses momentum, plus the buying 335 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: round two. People are underestimating that buying round two. Then 336 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: he's got to travel to the Raiders down in Canberra 337 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: in round three. Then his draw opens up round four 338 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: and five. He's got the Rabbit O's and someone else 339 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: nights that might be. So I'm going to fade Jacob 340 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: Karaz from round one, with the hope bringing him in 341 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: relatively early, maybe after a price drop. What are your thoughts? 342 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: Don't mind the strategy that buys awkward. The injuries bit 343 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 3: tricky at the moment too. So I'm on the Coraz train, 344 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 3: but very easy flip to someone else. 345 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: The other guy I don't quite understand is Brian too, 346 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: who is based on an average of sixty from last year. 347 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: He's average seventy in the plot past when he was 348 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: scoring tries, and people are saying, well, look if he 349 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: scores tries this year, he's going to go back up 350 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: to the seventy average. But thinking with Brian too, he 351 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: could barely run last year. He's got hamstring injuries and 352 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: knee injuries. Once you start getting hamstring injuries regularly, it's 353 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: not a good sign for your career. Plus, where is 354 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: he going to get the tries from? When the Panthers 355 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: have the worst draw in the competition, they're basically playing 356 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: the six hardest teams in the competition to start in 357 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: the first six rounds. It's not quite that, but it's 358 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: almost that. Bryan's oh, not in for me, anyone against that. 359 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 3: I've had him, I've had him in draft, but I 360 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 3: can understand the logic. I think the main thing with 361 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 3: him is probably not just gonna be the nees. It's 362 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 3: going to be whether or not Casey McLean's lead to 363 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 3: pass or not, because that seemed to see the bit 364 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: of the tractor last year. I think the thing with 365 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: a guy like to if he's injury prone's a little 366 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: bit like turbar reckon. It's that you're better off to 367 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 3: kind of like take the punt in your starting site. 368 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 3: They're not using two trades because if he does come off, 369 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: then you've got a good player who's undervalued. But I 370 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 3: think around that amount of money, there's a lot of 371 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: really good option. 372 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: Speaking of good options, heaps of content up on the 373 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: site now just look in the news section of the 374 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: app Cheapy Bible Draft ranking, so much draft content from 375 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: these two again see Jets Team, Wilso's Classic Team, your 376 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: classic team. Heaps the content, So check out the new 377 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: section of the app plaus check out the past episodes 378 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: of the podcast. This is our i think our seventh 379 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: of the year, So we've been rolling out content since 380 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: October basically since the season finished. We're going now to 381 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: range hot take what have you got here? 382 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 3: Also, I'm not gonna lie. 383 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 4: I actually missed this section of the of the script, 384 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,239 Speaker 4: so I don't have anyone written down, but off the 385 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 4: top of my head, maybe I'm really keen to see 386 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 4: how Jermaine McEwan goes this year at the Knights. He's 387 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 4: sort of in that mid range slash cheapy area, but 388 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 4: just looking at the numbers last year when he was 389 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 4: actually playing eighty minutes towards the end of the year, 390 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,719 Speaker 4: they were really, really impressive. And with Kup he has 391 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 4: all gone to the Tigers, there's that opportunity for him 392 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 4: to start, So I think he could be a really 393 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 4: good mid range option. 394 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to look at him this week too. 395 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 396 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Thomas cancer as well, so it might be a 397 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 2: little goose out for that that back row battle. But 398 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 2: I've got Hamus Stewart in there. I just think he's 399 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 2: thirteen percent, so not superly low owned, but I just 400 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 2: think he's going to be a season keeper. Like Jack 401 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 2: de Balins out as you mentioned earlier, he's their next 402 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 2: man up. He's going to slide into that thirteen roll 403 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 2: for the Season's got a massive rap on him. He's 404 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: got a huge points per minutebout one point one. So 405 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: I think if he can play about sixty or sixty 406 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 2: five minutes, which is realistically for a lo as fit 407 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: as he is and as good as he is, I 408 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 2: think he can easily average about sixty five to seventy 409 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 2: and it'll be that Jermaine Hopgood from a few years 410 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 2: ago that everyone sort of jumps on. 411 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, there's big opportunities in the Dragon's pack. 412 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: I mentioned Tobra Cashman before and one hundred percent agree 413 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: on Steward as well. 414 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 3: Your thoughts, I like it. I think it's a good 415 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: chow out. Sixty five might be a little bit ambitious, 416 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 3: but he's been so many my mocks. I picked him 417 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 3: up last year and he made me a bit of cash, 418 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 3: so I like it. My mid range hot take is 419 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 3: guy I mentioned in the draft podcast before. It's Trey 420 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 3: Mooney up of the Knight. It's on a bit of 421 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 3: a Night's tangent as well. Two performances have really come 422 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 3: to mind. So he had a start last year at 423 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 3: Locke forty three minutes eighty nine points, which is mental, 424 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 3: and then he came off the bench in that game 425 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 3: that the Rays got absolutely smashed in round twenty seven 426 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 3: against the Dolphins where they rested all their team and 427 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 3: he scored seventy eight. So he's a freak. I reckon 428 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 3: if you don't start with him, you're mad because you'll 429 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 3: be scrambling him to get him in your team by 430 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 3: the time his pride starts going up in round three. 431 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 3: I reckon he's going to be basically a season keeper. 432 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: My mid range hot take is Selwyn Cobbow. I was 433 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: on the Playbook podcast last night and the spy kind 434 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: of tipped me into this. Cobbos. We had a story 435 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: yesterday He's dropped ten kilos, and I as much as 436 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: I hate these stories about professional athletes finally getting fit, 437 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: it which I'm like, I just don't understand how that story, 438 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: How a guy getting fit when you're a professional athlete 439 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: is a big thing, but it is a thing for 440 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: Cobbo's lost ten kilos. He's on the left wing for 441 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: the Dolphins outside Isaac Katara, and a really good side 442 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: to be on with Herbie as well. So what do 443 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: you reckon, Cobo? 444 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good shout. I think everyone kind of 445 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 3: has those fond memories of what the Dolphins were doing 446 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 3: from sort of say rounds like eight for the rest 447 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 3: of the season. I did have a look at the 448 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 3: season long average for the left winger last year and 449 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 3: it was fifty five, which is probably unders on what 450 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 3: you'd expect, Like you sort of thought maybe that real 451 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 3: estate was worth on his sixty five to seventy five 452 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 3: outside of Herbie. So I think he's got gun potential, 453 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,719 Speaker 3: but I want to kind of see it first from him. 454 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 3: I reckon. 455 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: You mentioned we just did the draft podcast. Who's your 456 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: first draft pick? A left field choice? For your first 457 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: draft a left field So it's got to be a Bowld. 458 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: It's still got to be Bowld. It's still going to 459 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: be a hot take. Okay, well did you not turn 460 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: the page over? 461 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 3: I I completely forgot to do that. If you're. 462 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 4: A left field first round pick, yeah, I would be 463 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 4: looking at someone like Jaden Campbell, who's not going to 464 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 4: be one of the top first round picks, but he's 465 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 4: someone who has the potential to go that high. And 466 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 4: if you're if you're picking later on in the first round, 467 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 4: he's someone that I think you can't really go wrong with. 468 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I had I originally had. I think we 469 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: payhas is the most popular draft pick. I think my 470 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: general gist on the draft podcast was you can stack 471 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: the pack this year, and there are some decent guys 472 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: in the pack. And then the next guy I had 473 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: was Hudson Young in the first round. But then you 474 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: poop poot on that straight away and pointed out that 475 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: during the finals he's actually got the buy so he 476 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: won't be of much use to you. 477 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's that's a critically underrated strategy. You've 478 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 3: got to make sure that they've got a good final 479 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 3: strength of schedule. I reckon if you if you're taking 480 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 3: someone a little bit left the field, I mean, correct 481 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 3: answer for me is probably James Tedesco, But like, why 482 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 3: not Kiano Kinney. He's no misk of origin. He plays 483 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: with the Gold Coast Titans. He gets a lot of 484 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 3: day games, a lot of fast tracks up there, and 485 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 3: he's a gun too, so I think he's I think 486 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 3: he's genuinely a first round pick. So why not number one? 487 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: Average draft position of sixty six. 488 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 3: Which is ridiculous, unbelievable. 489 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: What do you think? 490 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: I'm not really a draft player, but I think the 491 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: most obvious if you got the first pick is probably 492 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: Nathan Cleary, even though they got a tough drawer early. 493 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 2: Like draft's a long game left field. You know, maybe 494 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 2: Scotty drink Water as the first overall pick. He's always 495 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 2: up there, he never really gets hurt. They got a 496 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 2: good run earlier goals now, so yea, yeah. 497 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well the mind wrote the other day that he 498 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: only James Tedesco has scored more points in the last 499 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: two seasons, and he hasn't missed a single game in 500 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: two years. So I think that's a good chat draft sleeper. 501 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: This is where you come in, Willso you wrote our 502 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: sleeper story, so you've got heaps up your sleeve, even 503 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: if you haven't yet one down here. 504 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 4: Well, he's someone who I'm sort of surprised we haven't 505 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 4: talked about him really much that this preseason at all, 506 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 4: But David Ffeeder is someone who has the potential to 507 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 4: finish the year as the top ranked to RF. But 508 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 4: just because of how bad his season was last year, 509 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 4: he's absolutely plummeted down the pre draft ranking, so he's 510 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 4: not going to be on a lot of people's minds, 511 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 4: even though he is classic relevant. So I think he's 512 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 4: someone that you can get by later in your draft 513 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 4: than you should be able to get him, and because 514 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 4: of that, he's probably the one of the most value 515 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 4: picks you could get in your draft. 516 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: And just for those people who haven't played draft before 517 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: who want to play this year. When you're looking at 518 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: the page, it's ordered automatically by the average from last year, 519 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: so while most people are looking at it at the 520 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: back row, Hudson Young would be the top because he 521 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: had the top average last year. For Feeder, even though 522 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: he's really popular and classic would be down way low 523 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: and no one would even see him exactly. You've only 524 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: got thirty seconds or a minute to make your pick. 525 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: You're going to miss him very, very easily. Who is 526 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: your sleeper for draft? 527 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 3: I like this guy more and more after researching this, 528 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 3: but it's just Jamin Hopkok. He sort of ticks the 529 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 3: same box in the sense that he's a fallen gun 530 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 3: like for Feeder, who from an average draft position perspective 531 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 3: and his scores from last season, he'll be like pass 532 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 3: pick one hundred. But we know that it wasn't like 533 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. He was a third round 534 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 3: draft pick right like, he was scoring seventies for fun, 535 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 3: and this year he's got the jewel, which I absolutely love. 536 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 3: We know he was averaging close to sixty five when 537 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 3: he had those games in the front row forward. He's 538 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 3: his minutes dependent, but you can get him really late, 539 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 3: and I think if he's healthy this year then he 540 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 3: could score really really well. 541 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: But hopgood written down as well. I really like that, 542 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: particularly with a duel, he's going average draft position of 543 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: one hundred and first, so it's very low for a 544 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: guy of his caliber. The only issue I've got is 545 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: the bell and coming to the club. I don't think 546 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: it will affect him, but it's just something to keep. 547 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 3: Him plays in the front road now so that that 548 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 3: shouldn't impact him too much. 549 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: My guy is Siali fe Marni, who a lot of 550 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: people will know from Classic Super Coach. He's going two 551 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: hundred and eleventh in draft, so you can pick him 552 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: up almost as your last pick, seventeenth player or whatever 553 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: it is in Super Coach. And if, as they say 554 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: he is as plays the same way as Brian too, 555 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: he's going to be a super Coach freak. Now for 556 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: your NRL season hot take. So we're not talking TEP 557 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: coach here, just purely NRL. What's going to happen? 558 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 4: Well, I've managed to think of something, even though I 559 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 4: don't have anything written down, but we were talking about 560 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 4: it in the office. But yesterday that with the new 561 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 4: NRL rule changes, specifically the bench, the fact that tams 562 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 4: can now carry six guys, we think could potentially lead 563 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 4: to like the death of the NRL utility. The fact 564 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 4: that pretty much every team will like the days of 565 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 4: old of having you know, a hooker or a half 566 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 4: back playing at fourteen, they won't really be as necessary 567 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 4: anymore because every team can just stack their bench with 568 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 4: maybe a backup hooker and. 569 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 3: A backup half back that might not. 570 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 4: Even see play because they've got four other forwards there 571 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 4: or whatever. So I think we could see that, Yeah, 572 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 4: the death of the neral utility this year. 573 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a that's a good call because it's kind 574 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: of made a little bit of a comeback in recent years. 575 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, that'll be a sad little thing that I 576 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: hadn't thought about. Actually, what do you what do you reckon? 577 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 2: There's one that drugs there's drugs insane. Every year, every 578 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 2: year people come out and say that the Roosters are 579 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 2: going to win the camp and they are smoky to 580 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 2: win the calmp and every year they disappoint everyone. I 581 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 2: think they're going to struggle to make the eight this year. 582 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 2: I think they're a worst team with Cherry Evans than 583 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: they are with Sabala. I found that I thought they 584 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,959 Speaker 2: found something really special with Sabala. Last year is kid 585 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 2: game with two and the one need to last. It 586 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 2: was just awesome. I know, Cherry Evans has that kin 587 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 2: game as well, but he's not a six foot five 588 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 2: half like Sivala is, and I just it just doesn't 589 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 2: make sense. Everyone forgets how Cherry Evans was bad for 590 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 2: mearly last year. It wasn't good for him at all. 591 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 2: Teddy's another year older as well. Like I know, he's 592 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: been so elate for so long, but he's got a 593 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 2: lot of miles on the legs and at some stage 594 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 2: by the time, it's going to catch up with him. 595 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 2: And I just think their back line's overrated as well. 596 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 2: Everyone like Mark's good, but there's a lot of outside 597 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 2: backs that I think are better than him. Lilla Tale 598 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 2: gave him a touch up in the finals that was 599 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 2: nice to see. Yeah, I just think they're overrated. 600 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 3: It's a big call, I think. For me, I've just 601 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 3: got Dolphins top four. I reckon they haven't made the 602 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 3: finals yet in their brief existence, but we saw enough 603 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 3: signs last year to be really start to take them seriously. 604 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 3: And they get so many men back in that forward 605 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 3: pack this year, with like a Tom Gilbert, Max Plath, 606 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 3: the Psycho Plath, like they're going to be a really 607 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 3: really awesome team to watch And think they've got what 608 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 3: it takes to push into the top four. 609 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,719 Speaker 1: I originally had the Dolphins down, but I also think 610 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: the Eels are going to make a big comeback this year. 611 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: We used eleventh last year, but they are a lot 612 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: worse than that for most of the season. Well, they 613 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: went on that run at the end of the end 614 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 1: of the year. It took a long time for Jason 615 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: Ryles to get this defensive structure working, but it definitely 616 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: started working. Then they got Mitchell Moses back into that team. 617 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: They got Debellon to tighten things up in the middle. 618 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: I think top four for the Eels this year they 619 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: could easily do it. And the other thing is Jonah 620 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: Pezzant comes in at five eight, who I kind of rate. 621 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: But they also have Joe ash PAPALII sitting around of Papali, 622 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: he is sorry, he's not a Papali. They've got him 623 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: sitting around too. Who I think if he gets a chance, 624 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: the Enner roll could be like a sneaky good before 625 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: for them. 626 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, good play a good team. I wouldn't go top four, 627 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 3: I mean especially the Tigers will give him a dust 628 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 3: up round two, but we'll see, we'll see. 629 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: Well that is our hot takes podcasts. I hopefully enjoyed it. 630 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: We'll be back next week. Check out our Draft podcast 631 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: that we've also done this week. We'll be back next 632 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: week with cheapy Bible MS teach