Speaker 1: A A Lady ad A Lady, A Lady ad Lady Unfiltered?
Speaker 1: Is this happening? Are we doing this?
Speaker 2: I think it is our very first podcast.
Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to the very first adel Lady Unfiltered podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm Hailey Pearson and I'm Lauren de Chesuro, the shorter
Speaker 1: of the two, and I'm the tall one, and we
Speaker 1: are besties. We're business partners, and we're the creators of Adelaidy,
Speaker 1: Hello Essay and Hay Loosy Media and we do everything
Speaker 1: together except bang true Story one time. So why God, Hi,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you can say that on this now.
Speaker 1: I know there's no there's no one to tell us.
Speaker 1: I need to dump what you're saying. We can actually
Speaker 1: say whatever we think and want.
Speaker 2: Oh, we don't have a dumbvine. We couldn't afford it,
Speaker 2: so even if we needed it, we.
Speaker 1: Don't have it.
Speaker 2: No, and that's what we need to actually promise ourselves
Speaker 2: and everyone listening. We always be honest, truthful, We're never
Speaker 2: gonna lie.
Speaker 1: Can we do an oath by Hailey Pearson and Lauren chaz.
Speaker 2: Swear to tell the whole truth, the whole truth, and
Speaker 2: by the truth, to help us God. Yes, judge, Judy, okay, dirt, that.
Speaker 1: Was our We promise we will be a home overset ourselves,
Speaker 1: which we always have been on Adelady. You've seen our Instagram.
Speaker 1: I think you follow us because you kind of know.
Speaker 1: We're not like, you know, perfect no influences. We could
Speaker 1: actually prompt influences like that. I wasn't having a go
Speaker 1: on influences. It seems like you were. I wasn't. I
Speaker 1: promise I wrote influences.
Speaker 2: Do you know what we've also, We've never been like
Speaker 2: you know, I've rocked up on set numerous times and
Speaker 2: someone said, is hair and makeup coming? And I'm completely
Speaker 2: done up? And I'm like, no, I thought I looked fabulous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, mate. We do our hair and makeup in
Speaker 1: our cars.
Speaker 2: We get changed in car parks.
Speaker 1: Remember that time that I weed on the side of
Speaker 1: the road and my sunglasses fell in my WII And
Speaker 1: then I put my sungnglasses back on my head and
Speaker 1: then you have to throw out your shoes or is
Speaker 1: that me? I've piecetoll in my bergs at a service station.
Speaker 1: I was there that day and then I got home barefoot.
Speaker 1: I looked so disheveled.
Speaker 2: I was like, I've been filming Ford lost my shoes.
Speaker 1: We're so foul. But that's why I love us. I
Speaker 1: love being us, and I love being your best friend.
Speaker 1: So today is a different kind of podcast day because
Speaker 1: every week we're gonna uncover. We're gonna talk about different topics,
Speaker 1: kind of like you would when you go out for
Speaker 1: brunch with your best friends and you have a million
Speaker 1: things to talk about, but then you get in the
Speaker 1: car and you're like, I never spoke about anything. I
Speaker 1: didn't finish any of my stories.
Speaker 2: Or you get in the car after brunch and you
Speaker 2: feel really anxious because you're like, did I offend that person?
Speaker 1: Did I say too much? And then you go home
Speaker 1: and do a nervoushit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you yourself, and then you forget about everything and
Speaker 2: everything's okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's actually what happens every time I see my
Speaker 1: best friends. I feel I don't know why I go,
Speaker 1: I feel like my cup is full. But then I
Speaker 1: also go did I offend her? Did I say the
Speaker 1: wrong thing? Did I just stop? Like just talk? You
Speaker 1: know what, You don't offend me. You don't offend me either.
Speaker 1: It takes a lot.
Speaker 2: For you to offend me, And I don't think you've
Speaker 2: ever friended me, A friend friended me? Yeah, and I
Speaker 2: can't talk.
Speaker 1: Okay, I gotta say as well, this is why we
Speaker 1: love each other because we neither of us can talk,
Speaker 1: neither of us can finish your sentence properly, and neither
Speaker 1: of us know anything.
Speaker 2: We've always said, you're half a brain in my half
Speaker 2: of brain.
Speaker 1: Complain each other, but both see we also come across
Speaker 1: like that, and I think that's why we're endearing. And
Speaker 1: people go, oh, yeah, I want to advertise with these girls.
Speaker 1: But we're actually quite smart when you think about it.
Speaker 1: We're jugalls. We're smart business women. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: But I have an excuse because I'm pregnant, so I
Speaker 2: have baby brain.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I have a parasite. So and every time
Speaker 1: I do something, You're like, well, i've caught baby brain too. No,
Speaker 1: but this I don't know if you're like this. Lauren
Speaker 1: and I have this weird thing. When one of us
Speaker 1: goes through something, the other feels the physical trauma that
Speaker 1: the other person is feeling. Have you felt kicking it? Yes,
Speaker 1: but that's just the parasite trying to get out of me. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, we're today, Yes, today, you're got to keep
Speaker 1: us on track and stay with us. I promise that
Speaker 1: you will leave this podcast feeling better about your own lives.
Speaker 1: So we we're gonna tell you how we met and
Speaker 1: how it all started. Let's go back to Okay. So
Speaker 1: I'm seven years old than new So yeah, don't forget it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know that I left UNI and I got into
Speaker 1: radio by I was at essay casting and Ann Peters,
Speaker 1: who runs essay casting, was like scariest fuck, like the
Speaker 1: scariest woman, but so good as well, because you really
Speaker 1: want to impress her. And she called me one day
Speaker 1: and she's like, Hayley, do you want to drive around
Speaker 1: of those cars at safam and give out icy cold
Speaker 1: can's cake. She's a packa day spoker. Now she wasn't.
Speaker 1: She was just scary And I was like, yes, I
Speaker 1: would love to do that, And that was my inn.
Speaker 1: I started at Triple M back in the day, like
Speaker 1: in when I was twenty one years old as a
Speaker 1: freak on the street and we drove around giving away
Speaker 1: icy cold cancer coke. And then one day I just
Speaker 1: sliding doors. Moment I just got lucky. I was a
Speaker 1: producer for the night show Sam Mack and Mel Greek
Speaker 1: were doing the night show and and Melgreg was taken
Speaker 1: off air because she said something about Selwyn the artist
Speaker 1: Selwyn Selwyn. I don't know, I'm just picturing tim Omatic
Speaker 1: and Selwyn. I don't know if they're the same person,
Speaker 1: but they're not. Anyway, she was taken off the radio
Speaker 1: and for some silly reason. She was great. But Craig
Speaker 1: Bruce was the boss at the time. You'd know him
Speaker 1: from Game Changers. He said, Haley, you're in. You have
Speaker 1: to do the night show with Sam Mac and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I've never done radio before. Oh my god. But after
Speaker 1: that show, I knew that I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: a past live thing, but it was. I was meant
Speaker 1: to be doing that. I felt more comfortable doing that
Speaker 1: than any other job I've ever done in my life.
Speaker 1: And so from there I was working at say Fermund
Speaker 1: Triple M. And then I was like, I need to
Speaker 1: do my regional time, and you do. And this is
Speaker 1: what was.
Speaker 2: This was a thing like teaching, isn't it always have
Speaker 2: to go out regional.
Speaker 1: Always go to Port Pierri do you time? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I went to the Sunshine Coast. That was my that
Speaker 1: was my regional time, and I was there for four
Speaker 1: years doing a night show, a drive show, days, everything,
Speaker 1: and then my husband and I, who was my boyfriend
Speaker 1: back then, we moved to Melbourne Nova for my dream
Speaker 1: gig going on. My god, I'm in cap City. What
Speaker 1: the hell? Husing Kate. We're doing the breakfast show all
Speaker 1: that time, and they were amazing and I looked up
Speaker 1: to them so much. Carrie Bigmore was the newsgirl. I
Speaker 1: met so many amazing people there and then I left
Speaker 1: there to come home a full circle moment and do
Speaker 1: what I thought at the time was my dream job
Speaker 1: with SAFM Breakfast, which is.
Speaker 2: Where I met you, and I'm so glad you got
Speaker 2: that gig and you went through a few radio partners.
Speaker 1: I run a lot, and to be fair, like I've
Speaker 1: got on with all of my radio partners. I think
Speaker 1: that time at SAFM was I say it was awful,
Speaker 1: but then I met you there and you met your
Speaker 1: partner there, so I can't say it was awful in
Speaker 1: that sense, but there I did go through a lot
Speaker 1: there personally and professionally, Yeah, definitely doubt so. If I
Speaker 1: were to do my quick whip around, so that's your
Speaker 1: dio whip around live to Laurence de Cezroy, tell me
Speaker 1: about your story.
Speaker 2: All right, hello, coming live for the Metro Whip Around.
Speaker 1: Remember that time?
Speaker 2: Oh So I finished my degree. I studied media at
Speaker 2: Adelaide UNI, and then I went into SAFM for a
Speaker 2: job interview.
Speaker 1: For what role? I wanted to drive the street cars too?
Speaker 1: How everyone starts, I reckonize how Jackie O started.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to hand out icyhul Can's coke in
Speaker 2: the Black Thunder's My dream walked in job interview, the
Speaker 2: girl was like with Sarah Rogers, who I love. I
Speaker 2: love your Mimko. I wouldn't mind when I went, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And she said you're hired.
Speaker 2: I'm like, why do people get so stressed about jobs?
Speaker 1: They're quite straightforward. Do you know what it is?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 1: It's just your personality. So people would have met you
Speaker 1: and like I want to be around this woman, and
Speaker 1: so they would have fired you. I hope so.
Speaker 2: And then day one I crashed the street car and
Speaker 2: I almost didn't tell them, but I kind of figured
Speaker 2: they'd noticed the ginormous dent on the right hand side
Speaker 2: of the car.
Speaker 1: I didn't get fired. I do often think how you
Speaker 1: haven't like died multiple times driving. Well, I'm not the
Speaker 1: best ride. I'm not either, like I want. I worry
Speaker 1: about myself as well, but you're more distracted than I am.
Speaker 1: In fact, you go you can't talk on the phone
Speaker 1: and drive at the same time. You'll go forty ks
Speaker 1: an hour in one hundred sorry, Like I'm serious up
Speaker 1: freeways because you can't do two things it once.
Speaker 2: I'm like a dude, an't I And I actually have
Speaker 2: to look at you while talking to you.
Speaker 1: And you're like, how about you talking? I know we're
Speaker 1: not in a movie. This is a real car.
Speaker 2: I sometimes forget what's real what's not in my life.
Speaker 2: So anyway, so then I drove the Black Thunder and
Speaker 2: then I had to go regional as well. I went
Speaker 2: to Newcastle to produce a show and it was awesome.
Speaker 1: And then I came back and I was the New Girl.
Speaker 2: So there was I think it was like Hailey Craigan
Speaker 2: Cozy or Hailey Craigan Rabbit.
Speaker 1: I can't even remember Hailey Rabbit and Boo Boo.
Speaker 2: Is anyway, So but it being but a boom, you
Speaker 2: were there and there was that new show on Channel
Speaker 2: ten called The New Girl, and it was my first
Speaker 2: week and you were like, let's make her do things
Speaker 2: and hey, I didn't say that like that, and Hailey
Speaker 2: Pearson said, I'm going to the new girl's hair and
Speaker 2: I went, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: I just want to be your friend. And did you
Speaker 1: not want me to cut your hair?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I never would have put you in
Speaker 1: that situation if I knew that you were like, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: cut my hair. I'll do anything.
Speaker 2: Severely bullied in the word place you dare throw that anyway.
Speaker 2: So I had this long, luscious Italian bony tail and
Speaker 2: Hailey Pearson cut it on air to like a bob
Speaker 2: and then you sent me to some foul hairdresser from Westley.
Speaker 1: I didn't was real for the day.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you're talent. You left a five fast
Speaker 2: night and then this poor hairdress I had to try
Speaker 2: and cut my hair to look relatively normal because you.
Speaker 1: Just are you just so? Is this where we're revealing
Speaker 1: that it's like a single white female.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just coming you now. After ten years of
Speaker 2: like trying to get back at you for.
Speaker 1: Cutting my hair, can I tell you something that you
Speaker 1: might not know?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but wait, I'm only joking. That's what started the
Speaker 2: radio career. Then I became your producer, and then we
Speaker 2: became best friends.
Speaker 1: And it was a point where this is before we
Speaker 1: were best friends, you would you were my producer at
Speaker 1: the time home and I remember it was back at
Speaker 1: the time where blogs had just started, and SAFM wanted
Speaker 1: me to write a blog and I was like, I
Speaker 1: study Journalism'm like, this is what I did, even though
Speaker 1: I can't spell cat. I wrote something and you came
Speaker 1: into me, and it was probably just lip service, but
Speaker 1: you said to me, oh my god, you're a brilliant writer.
Speaker 1: You're such a good writer. You're a brilliant writer. Those
Speaker 1: two words, and in my head, I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, maybe I am. And I believed that I
Speaker 1: could write, and you gave me the confidence without even knowing,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I can write. And that's where I
Speaker 1: started writing from then on and I haven't stopped.
Speaker 2: I don't think I would have done lip service because
Speaker 2: I don't like to give compliments unless I mean it,
Speaker 2: so I would have one hundred percent meant that.
Speaker 1: But you're also single white female, so you might have
Speaker 1: just been stuffing up and then can I come stiff
Speaker 1: your hair later on? Okay, so here we are we're friends.
Speaker 1: At this stage, we are friends.
Speaker 2: We got through everything, we lived and breathed radio. We
Speaker 2: were at that station more than we were doing anything.
Speaker 1: Else in our lives, and that's probably why we I
Speaker 1: don't know when we're hiring people now, we look for
Speaker 1: who we were at that stage, and I feel like
Speaker 1: it's rare now that kids are like this. We work
Speaker 1: for free, but we're not expecting you to work for
Speaker 1: free anymore.
Speaker 2: By the way, I just wanted exposure. I used to
Speaker 2: like finish Paneling, Hamishnandy. I'd Paddel Jane Jelly Radio into
Speaker 2: one am. I'd sleep in my car. I'd get up
Speaker 2: at four am from my car, put on a Triple
Speaker 2: M shirt and drive out to an outside broadcast in
Speaker 2: Elizabeth because I could never say no, Oh it's too much,
Speaker 2: But also saying no that stays you can't You're not
Speaker 2: to say yes.
Speaker 1: To everything about I used to do.
Speaker 2: A sports report on Triple M where I would have
Speaker 2: to see it me and I used to call my
Speaker 2: dad to go Dad, does this sound normal?
Speaker 1: That stirt got up over Westi's and stuff? Do I
Speaker 1: sound like I'm sporty? Before I read the bulletin? Because
Speaker 1: when they said, do you like sports? I said, yes,
Speaker 1: I just want to read it. And you were wearing
Speaker 1: a netball bit at the time.
Speaker 2: I looked like one today.
Speaker 1: Sharon Shan's just like.
Speaker 2: I could never say her last night, but I just
Speaker 2: never wanted to say no. And I know you're the same,
Speaker 2: and we've always said you're half of brain, my half brain,
Speaker 2: complete each other.
Speaker 1: But we've both always worked hard. And sadly, if you're
Speaker 1: listening to this and you're like, I want to get
Speaker 1: into radio, it's really sad because when we got in,
Speaker 1: there were mid dawns. We both did mid dawns. There
Speaker 1: were like, literally you start your shift at ten ten pm.
Speaker 1: They were local shows. It's so hard now to get
Speaker 1: in if you want to follow this as a career.
Speaker 1: Now obviously you can start your own podcast and have
Speaker 1: zero listeners like we do right now. But I think
Speaker 1: my mum might be listening. Yeah, I do tell me there. Okay,
Speaker 1: So at this point we're friends, but we're also going
Speaker 1: through some shit. So why we're at that radio station
Speaker 1: and I don't know. I always say I've got PTSD
Speaker 1: from that radio station, and I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: because of I'm not blaming the station because I went
Speaker 1: through other stuff when I was there. I had two
Speaker 1: pregnancies and lost my brother. So a week after my
Speaker 1: first son was born, Ryan died and six weeks after that,
Speaker 1: so eight weeks after that, I had to go back
Speaker 1: to radio. So mentally, I probably was a little bit
Speaker 1: screwed in the head anyway, trying to get through everything.
Speaker 1: And I think we were all in.
Speaker 2: This crazy world of radio land that the emotional stuff,
Speaker 2: it's like we couldn't we were like robots. It's like
Speaker 2: we couldn't be friends. We had to be like, come on,
Speaker 2: we got to do this, We've got to do that,
Speaker 2: and we forgot the human element of someone's just lost
Speaker 2: a sibling. Yeah, but in radio land, it's really weird
Speaker 2: to even talk about your program to just you're on
Speaker 2: the wheel, and if you don't continue on that wheel,
Speaker 2: there's a million other people that want your jobs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can't. And I'm gonna say this too
Speaker 1: as a woman in this industry, and I'm sure this
Speaker 1: is across a lot of industries. You have worked your
Speaker 1: whole life to be in this career, right, and then
Speaker 1: you also really want to be a mum, and you
Speaker 1: have a baby, but then you have this anxiety of like,
Speaker 1: I really want to stay home with this baby. I'm
Speaker 1: so excited. I love this child. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: the longer I'm off, somebody else might be better than me,
Speaker 1: and then you second guess everything. You get anxious, and
Speaker 1: then someone sweeps in and steals your job.
Speaker 2: Well, you can't take a year in media is like
Speaker 2: ten years.
Speaker 1: You can never I had like nine weeks off Max,
Speaker 1: and that was only because it was Christmas holidays. I know, yeah,
Speaker 1: but at that time I was going through that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. Also, we like that they were changing the
Speaker 1: radio station. We lost our jobs. That happens in radio.
Speaker 1: You haven't done breakfast radio until you've been fired. That's fine.
Speaker 1: You were going through other things where physically you were
Speaker 1: that stressed.
Speaker 2: I was so stressed, Like I used to work eighty
Speaker 2: two one hundred hours a week and that is not exaggerating,
Speaker 2: and I was so focused.
Speaker 1: Now you work like eighty minutes to one hundred hours
Speaker 1: a year.
Speaker 2: You're lucky to get eighty minutes a week out of me. No,
Speaker 2: I was. I was so stressed, and it was so funny.
Speaker 2: In my business life, which is kind of like you
Speaker 2: and I now, I was so together, run a breakfast
Speaker 2: show to the minute to the second, and then in
Speaker 2: my personal life, like my car would get towed, it
Speaker 2: would run out of poshol. I called my dad because
Speaker 2: my power wasn't working with the night I moved into
Speaker 2: my house. But I didn't know you had to like
Speaker 2: call a power company. Yeah, to like lock in power.
Speaker 2: I just thought lights worked. You don't know about electricity
Speaker 2: and how I did at twenty one, he goes through
Speaker 2: your power company. I mustool as you go.
Speaker 1: Hashtag scotch.
Speaker 2: I didn't know anything outside, but my whole brain was
Speaker 2: focused on work. So at that point, you've gone through
Speaker 2: a lot. My hair was falling out. I literally said
Speaker 2: to mom and dad, I wanted to have a small
Speaker 2: car accident on the way to work so I could sleep.
Speaker 2: And that was the minute for me. I went shit,
Speaker 2: I need out.
Speaker 1: That was burnout before burnout was invented. So yeah, at
Speaker 1: this point i'd left the radio station, you'd completely burnt out.
Speaker 1: You went overseas on contigue tour, and I had a baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're both in very different stages of my life.
Speaker 1: This is where ad Lady was born. So Alfie, my
Speaker 1: second child, was eight weeks old and Mark I had
Speaker 1: just started. This is so gross saying this. I hate
Speaker 1: that I did this, but I started. I needed an outlet.
Speaker 1: I knew that I was never going to be a
Speaker 1: stay at home I'm not there's anything wrong with that,
Speaker 1: because that's amazing. But I knew for me and how
Speaker 1: my brain works, I needed a creative outlet to make
Speaker 1: me tick, to make me a better mum. So I
Speaker 1: started a website, Haley Pierson dot com dot com. I
Speaker 1: was like international, and I know I would write. I
Speaker 1: would write articles or stories or blogs or personal things
Speaker 1: and it did go well. Like I would be on
Speaker 1: the back end monitoring how well it went. And then
Speaker 1: when I was having coffee with you watermelon juice and
Speaker 1: banana bread at Nature's Provodre, I said to you, I
Speaker 1: want to do something. I want to do something, and
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do it by myself. I knew
Speaker 1: I could never do it by myself. I want to
Speaker 1: do something with you.
Speaker 2: And we always had different skills, like so I always
Speaker 2: had that producing brain and you always had the creative brain.
Speaker 2: But together, I knew something was going to work, but
Speaker 2: I didn't know what it was at that point anything.
Speaker 1: That you and I want to do. I have zero doubt,
Speaker 1: like I'm not kidding, zero doubt that it will not work,
Speaker 1: because that makes sense. Yeah, zero doubt it will work,
Speaker 1: that it will work. See, our brains don't work. I
Speaker 1: got I got you. It was always going to work.
Speaker 2: So from that day on with Alfie sitting there, Oh,
Speaker 2: it was my actual favorite time because there was no stress,
Speaker 2: there was no money constraints. We weren't on a timeline. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and we kind of put ourselves on a timeline, didn't we. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If you're going through this at the moment and you're like,
Speaker 1: I want to make my hobby a business, our biggest
Speaker 1: advice is how we start is don't treat it like
Speaker 1: a business.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So we started this idea, let's create a website about
Speaker 1: sharing the best of South Australia for women, and we
Speaker 1: ran it like it was a business. I had time.
Speaker 1: I had to gave myself time to write articles, had
Speaker 1: to have a deadline by five o'clock to get this
Speaker 1: article in. We had no boss. We were the boss.
Speaker 1: But also where was it going at five o'clock? What happened? Nowhere?
Speaker 1: But we put that stress on ourselves. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: how it slowly grew. This website. We also came in
Speaker 1: at the right time. Before I don't think anything about
Speaker 1: that existed. Maybe oh Glam, but we didn't even know
Speaker 1: what Glam was. Someone told you.
Speaker 2: Someone told me about, Oh is Adelady like Glam? And
Speaker 2: I sat in the toilet and looked at Glam.
Speaker 1: I called you crying, But I'm not like closed minded.
Speaker 1: We must be because then you text me, going, there's
Speaker 1: this website and they're doing what we're doing. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: they're not mate, and yes, I'd never heard of it either,
Speaker 1: but they're very different. And that's that's good.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing in all businesses. You're always going
Speaker 2: to have amazing competitors.
Speaker 1: Yes, you need it.
Speaker 2: We've got so many people doing similar stuff and that's
Speaker 2: the best thing. That's what makes it great because it
Speaker 2: also makes you be better at your job. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: from there I never forget. So we had this website launching,
Speaker 2: it hadn't even launched yet, and we met with the
Speaker 2: Adelaide City Council and they said, how much for an
Speaker 2: ad on your website? And we both went one hundred
Speaker 2: dollars and they went, cool, let's lock it in and
Speaker 2: we went, yeah, do you.
Speaker 1: Ever think why did people spend money with us when
Speaker 1: we literally had nothing to show them, because they were
Speaker 1: probably laughing at the fact that we said one hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think it's because we would
Speaker 1: go to all the meetings and we would we would
Speaker 1: just be ourselves and people. I don't know why, but
Speaker 1: I want to invest in these girls, and they did.
Speaker 2: That's how the business started, and it was just it
Speaker 2: has been the most amazing journey and I cannot imagine my.
Speaker 1: Life without you. You're just like my right arm, my
Speaker 1: best friend. I used to cry as a child because
Speaker 1: I wanted an older sister and Mum would always be
Speaker 1: like that, it's one thing that I can't get for you,
Speaker 1: but guess what, I gotta have it, and now I
Speaker 1: have a sibling and it's the nicest thing in the world.
Speaker 1: I actually feel like I know this sounds so stupid.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm coming on to you, but I
Speaker 1: feel like you're an extension of me. I feel like
Speaker 1: when you're sad or you're going through something, I feel
Speaker 1: I know in my loins Lauren's not right. I know
Speaker 1: it in a good way. And your loins are a
Speaker 1: bad look bad way.
Speaker 2: It depends how you're feeling. Do you know what You've
Speaker 2: had to be through? So much shit throughout ten years
Speaker 2: about a lady. You've always been the stable one. You've
Speaker 2: been married to Jimmy the whole time, and I've had
Speaker 2: some fucked up shit happen in my time, but you've
Speaker 2: always been there. You've always You've lived through the breakups,
Speaker 2: the divorces, the having the babies, they getting back with
Speaker 2: my eggs.
Speaker 1: You have been on the biggest roller coaster I know.
Speaker 1: But that's what I love because if I was with
Speaker 1: someone that was just stable, we forget. We can't both
Speaker 1: be stable. We both It's like the Yin and the yang.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I am the fucking Yang and I'm the
Speaker 2: Is it ying or yin yin yin yin?
Speaker 1: I don't know really. Yeah. I think it's year where
Speaker 1: you said ying like yin cha? Yeah, I know, all right.
Speaker 1: What we're gonna do now is Millie, who works with us,
Speaker 1: has written some questions about our business. I guess that's
Speaker 1: what today is about. It's really getting to know the
Speaker 1: backstore of how we are, and then we'll continue to
Speaker 1: be self indulgent and talk about our lives. All right,
Speaker 1: that's the thing.
Speaker 2: We've met in radio, We've grown up together, we started
Speaker 2: this business.
Speaker 1: And now do you know if someone in boxed me
Speaker 1: the other day going, oh my god, it's so cute.
Speaker 1: I remember you and Lauren on the over at Linden
Speaker 1: Park and you went around interviewing people and telling everyone
Speaker 1: that you were best friends. And I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: seven years older the nurse. So that wasn't Lauren, but
Speaker 1: it was definitely me.
Speaker 2: Wasn't just some Italian Greek kid.
Speaker 1: They assumed with me she was Italian. She was half Greek,
Speaker 1: half Italian.
Speaker 2: What about my doppel ganger who works for port Adelaide,
Speaker 2: who's that? I think her name's Jasmine and she's just
Speaker 2: moved up. My cousin thought she was me and went
Speaker 2: up to her an event and started talking to her
Speaker 2: like it was me.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of Lauren to chairs away looking people
Speaker 1: walking around, beautiful girls. All right. Here's a question, when
Speaker 1: did you first think, shit, this is going to work.
Speaker 2: When did you first think shit this was going to work.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Last week, I don't know, I'm still
Speaker 1: thinking is it going to work? I'm still is this
Speaker 1: going to work? Where's the in this situation? All Right,
Speaker 1: that's a shit question. Let's move on. Oh you've got
Speaker 1: an answer. I reckon it would be when that lad
Speaker 1: city council said yes.
Speaker 2: But I also thus, I also think it is when
Speaker 2: I quit my eighty thousand dollar a year job to
Speaker 2: start at a lady and telling my dad that it
Speaker 2: was a great idea, even though we were going to
Speaker 2: end zero dollars.
Speaker 1: But I just thought it had legs. No, it's true
Speaker 1: because you have to take risks.
Speaker 2: You have to and if you're wanting to start a business,
Speaker 2: there is far trying to tell my Italian dad that
Speaker 2: I'm going to quit my job to go earn nothing.
Speaker 2: But I just had this fire in my bellue. I
Speaker 2: just knew, and I knew that you would be the same.
Speaker 1: But like he was just like, what a fuck? I'm
Speaker 1: stroke but ID but that you have to do it,
Speaker 1: and do you know what, what's the worst thing that
Speaker 1: can happen it fails, go and do something else.
Speaker 2: Stressed I was going to end up in moving at home,
Speaker 2: which I did.
Speaker 1: I think it was more stress that I was going
Speaker 1: to end up marrying his daughter. All Right, what's been
Speaker 1: the hardest part about running your own business? All Right,
Speaker 1: I got this go, I would say with us, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a tricky one. I could never do this
Speaker 1: by myself, and I love that I have you, but
Speaker 1: because we are best friends, and quite often it doesn't
Speaker 1: feel like work, I don't really have work and home time.
Speaker 1: So when I'm home with the kids and my husband,
Speaker 1: my brain quite often is still thinking about the business
Speaker 1: and work and what we can do next, and have
Speaker 1: I done this and all that kind of stuff. Never
Speaker 1: switching off is hard.
Speaker 2: Ever, at the beginning, you had babies. I didn't have anything.
Speaker 2: I was single, I had no kids, and I really.
Speaker 1: Struggle to understand.
Speaker 2: Back in the day, like you know, I would do mc.
Speaker 1: Gigs or whatever as you say yes to everything. I did.
Speaker 1: I said yes to everything.
Speaker 2: But now it's very different because I'm where you were,
Speaker 2: I have kids, and I understand the power of saying no.
Speaker 1: And I cannot express that enough. It is so empowering
Speaker 1: getting to that point where you're like, if I say
Speaker 1: yes to you to do this work thing, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: I'm saying no to my children. And what I always figure,
Speaker 1: what's the worst it can happen if they if they
Speaker 1: have a go at you for saying no, I want
Speaker 1: to be with my kids. What kind of person are they?
Speaker 1: But I also look at people with kids who are
Speaker 1: out twenty four seven and out every night, and I go,
Speaker 1: don't you want to be at home with your family?
Speaker 1: But also that's Instagram because I hate I feel like
Speaker 1: people would look at.
Speaker 2: Us and think that because they think that we're there
Speaker 2: in real time when we're filming and everything.
Speaker 1: Often it's fid are you have a home? That's actually
Speaker 1: like that cuts so deep because I'm like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: are always home, but we don't post about that we're
Speaker 1: home all the time because we're at a Lady and
Speaker 1: we're sharing the best It's Outh Australia. Yeah. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: find that one of the hardest things. All right, another
Speaker 1: question for you, bear Bear.
Speaker 2: I was supposed to get a hat, but I didn't
Speaker 2: get a hat to put the things in.
Speaker 1: It's because you ate the hat. Did you cook it?
Speaker 2: I remember you once saying that what is that a thing?
Speaker 1: So you can actually in the saying is you cant
Speaker 1: I'll what is it? I'll eat? I leave my hat,
Speaker 1: Like if you don't do this, I'll eat my hat.
Speaker 1: You can actually make a hat that you can boil
Speaker 1: up and then eat. Our old boss told us about that,
Speaker 1: but you didn't eat that. You didn't need that. No
Speaker 1: more eating hats. Is there anything you don't share with
Speaker 1: each other?
Speaker 2: I think we share everything to the point where I
Speaker 2: think we shared sometimes too much.
Speaker 1: But I love that. I feel like there is nothing
Speaker 1: that you could ask me that I wouldn't tell you.
Speaker 1: Nothing we share like we just were recently. We're on
Speaker 1: an overseas holiday and we had a parasite and we
Speaker 1: crossed the line more than I think anyone's ever crossed
Speaker 1: the line before.
Speaker 2: I filmed myself on the toilet, just so you knew that.
Speaker 2: I was worried that you thought I might be faking
Speaker 2: my sickness.
Speaker 1: So did I, and that's why I set you photos
Speaker 1: of my shit. But actually it was literally because.
Speaker 2: We got off the plane and we were supposed to
Speaker 2: em see a gig that we couldn't go to. And
Speaker 2: without giving too much detail to this amazing client, all
Speaker 2: I wanted to say was I could ship myself.
Speaker 1: I heard you. I thought you were winging at night,
Speaker 1: but it was actually coming out of another hole.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is the lowest one, but we
Speaker 2: don't talk about now.
Speaker 1: We share everything. There's nothing that I wouldn't share with you.
Speaker 1: I know. One more question and then I think we
Speaker 1: have to wrap up our first ever podcast. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: this is more of a serious one. You both experienced
Speaker 1: extreme tragedy in your lives. What has that taught you?
Speaker 2: So when we started at a Lady ten years ago,
Speaker 2: we both went through a lot. Within twenty four hours,
Speaker 2: my partner passed away of a brain aneurysm, and you
Speaker 2: found and I found him on the Sunday night, seven
Speaker 2: twenty seven, and that to this day, I actually don't
Speaker 2: think I've unpacked.
Speaker 1: I know you haven't. I burial there deep.
Speaker 2: It is still even though you can find another partner
Speaker 2: and you move on. That's what happens when yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and I've got a beautiful child and I'm with Burjohn.
Speaker 2: I'm happy that trauma never leaves you.
Speaker 1: They say the person that finds actually finds the body,
Speaker 1: actually does need to have some serious counseling, more so
Speaker 1: than the second person that walks in you. Anyway, we
Speaker 1: can talk about this another time, but on that same
Speaker 1: weekend that this happened, and this is why we say
Speaker 1: it's so weird. We're very in sync. My mom had
Speaker 1: just been diagnosed with breast cancer, and even when my
Speaker 1: brother died a few years before that, I still didn't
Speaker 1: go on zoloft or any anti anti anxiety medications. I've
Speaker 1: rawed doctor. I felt every little bit of that. Whereas
Speaker 1: when this happened, I was I actually couldn't function. I
Speaker 1: was like, this is the most painful thing that's ever happened.
Speaker 1: If I lose my mom and I know you lost
Speaker 1: someone and you knew what I knew what it felt like,
Speaker 1: and I just couldn't. I could not, like, I can't
Speaker 1: even comprehend that it's been ten years and she's fine.
Speaker 1: But that literally that weekend. The next morning, I was
Speaker 1: finding out if my mom's cancer was everywhere, if it
Speaker 1: had spread everywhere. I couldn't focus. And the hardest thing
Speaker 1: for us at that time is I couldn't. I was
Speaker 1: there for you, but I was also dearing with my
Speaker 1: own shit, and we could.
Speaker 2: We couldn't be there one hundred percent for each other,
Speaker 2: but we were there.
Speaker 1: We were there for each other. Yeah, we'd call each
Speaker 1: other and just cry and just cry.
Speaker 2: And I had friends at the time that had never
Speaker 2: been through any form of grief, they'd never even lost
Speaker 2: a grandparent. And I get so jealous of those people
Speaker 2: I know, and I really struggled. It changed friendships for me.
Speaker 2: But you were always there because you had lost a sibling.
Speaker 2: You knew the grief, you knew the questions to ask.
Speaker 2: You know. I had a lot of friends that would
Speaker 2: just never bring him up. And I was like, guys,
Speaker 2: just because you're bringing him up, doesn't.
Speaker 1: Mean they don't know. You're Oh gosh, now I'm suddenly
Speaker 1: thinking about it. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: They got I want to bring him up just in
Speaker 2: case we made you think about him.
Speaker 1: Always acknowledge that person. That's our biggest tip. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think when I don't know, I know what the way
Speaker 1: they're saying. With this as well, I think when you
Speaker 1: go through something like that, we attract people who have
Speaker 1: also been through some form of trauma. And when we're
Speaker 1: in a surface conversation with someone and I know you're
Speaker 1: the same, she went, actually, not there. I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: a million other things.
Speaker 2: I can't forget how the kids.
Speaker 1: Nothing sticks. Whereas if you're talking to me about something real,
Speaker 1: I'm there. I am listening I'm empathetic. I put myself
Speaker 1: in your position, and I think if you've been through something,
Speaker 1: it makes you a better listener and a better storyteller.
Speaker 2: But also the really hard thing is when people do
Speaker 2: come to you with their problems, us being empaths. I've
Speaker 2: been in the supermarket before someone has told me their
Speaker 2: life story. She's cried, I've cried, she goes on. Then
Speaker 2: I sit in my car. I know I'm in bed
Speaker 2: at night. I can't shake things. I get so into
Speaker 2: people's stories. So I think it's a blessing that people
Speaker 2: always want to tell us stuff. But I gotta sometimes
Speaker 2: learn to shield myself.
Speaker 1: I know your mum and my dad have always gone
Speaker 1: put a white light around you, surround yourself with white light,
Speaker 1: protect yourself. And then they do this thing or this
Speaker 1: hippie thing. Really yeah, I do.
Speaker 2: It at night in the shower with the water I
Speaker 2: wash off my day.
Speaker 1: You get your hand and you like flick off all
Speaker 1: the stress.
Speaker 2: What a mum used to say as a kid. I
Speaker 2: shield myself with pure white light. I silled myself with
Speaker 2: pure white light.
Speaker 1: But it's good. I don't know. I try to do it,
Speaker 1: but also I feel guilty.
Speaker 2: We comes in the long line of hippies.
Speaker 1: Don't know.
Speaker 2: I love that, and I love that no matter what
Speaker 2: I pull at you. That's something like my mom. You know,
Speaker 2: she thought there was a ghost in my house and
Speaker 2: she got time and she came and like got rid
Speaker 2: of the evil spirits and stuff.
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, my dad did that too. Back in
Speaker 1: the there's nothing I can throw it. My mom and
Speaker 1: dad meditate and they do something called sitars or cities
Speaker 1: or whatever it is where they fly. They literally fly,
Speaker 1: they sit as they meditate with their mantra. And as
Speaker 1: a kid, I would hear this flop flop flop flop
Speaker 1: was moving past her bedroom and they would be flying.
Speaker 1: That's a whole other thing. Anyway.
Speaker 2: You know what, I can never be sick because my
Speaker 2: mum always fixed my throat shark.
Speaker 1: My throat shark was at.
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, bitch, I'm just fucking sick. I just
Speaker 2: want an antibotic. No, let me get rid of the stuff.
Speaker 2: And I get yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Don't need to get the doctor. You've got jaws, I know,
Speaker 1: jewels the doctor. All right, I think we've covered hopefully
Speaker 1: we've just covered a little bit about ourselves, so you know,
Speaker 1: where we're at. We want you to feel like you're
Speaker 1: part of this podcast. We're best friends. We want you
Speaker 1: to feel like we are your best friend and you
Speaker 1: can tell us anything and you can get us to
Speaker 1: talk about anything you want.
Speaker 2: If you ever want us to talk about something, you
Speaker 2: can message us on Instagram dm us and.
Speaker 1: We want to talk about it.
Speaker 2: And we just want to share our lives with you,
Speaker 2: our messed upness.
Speaker 1: Can I just say how what hot messes we are?
Speaker 1: This is actually the third time we've recorded this podcast
Speaker 1: because we just did it too more like previous times
Speaker 1: and it didn't work. So this is the third time
Speaker 1: we've done this. I thought we weren't telling you. You know,
Speaker 1: we're being real and honest. We are very special kind
Speaker 1: of people. We are hot messes and we hope you
Speaker 1: feel better about your life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you ever want to feel better about yourself,
Speaker 2: listen to us.
Speaker 1: I love you, I love you.
Speaker 2: You're half a bride of my half brid Babes