1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Good day, Welcome to the show. This is better than yesterday. 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Useful tools and useful conversations to help make you all 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: day today better than yesterday. Every episode is in twenty fifteen. 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: My Na'm Josha Ginsburg. And in the corner of the 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: studio today is Wolfgang, who's busy making something in Minecraft. 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: Is it going okay? 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: Good? 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: I've put some cows on the roof of my stolen 9 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: villager house. That's the title. 10 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: Of a novel. 11 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: If ever, there was one very quickly up the show, 12 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: the newsletter. I've finally got a newsletter that's working. Love 13 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: you to get on board with that, Just jump on 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: the show notes. Theareirs a link to that. Also, tickets 15 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 1: for story Club for this weekend. Story Club are on 16 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: sale right now. There's a few seats left. Going to 17 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: be great. Duncan Fellow's Ruby tes Alex Lee, Mike Bower, 18 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: Zone on Lodge and Myself. That's on Sunday night. But 19 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: on Saturday night, if you're looking for something to do, 20 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: you can go to Tasmania and see a show put 21 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: on by the man we are looking at today, Miss 22 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: Merrick Watts. Grapes of Mirth is his comedy festival that 23 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: he puts on. It's absolutely cracking, and I thought that's 24 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: as good a time as they need to have a 25 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: little visit. Back on a couple of interesting things that 26 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: we learned about Merrick the last time he was on 27 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,279 Speaker 1: the show Merrick Watts. If you don't know, Merrick Watts 28 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: is a comedian, a radio host of podcaster, a fine 29 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: wine aficionado as sommelier. He has this comedy festival and 30 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: Grapes of Mirth. He's made a show, The Idiot's God 31 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: Dewined at Merrick is so much more than his resume, 32 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: and you're going to hear a few things. His unique 33 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: approach to resilience, his thoughts on parenting, and a really 34 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: interesting way that he revived a two thousand year old 35 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: Roman drink. It's a cracker. I want to get into it. 36 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: He's the first interesting thing that I learned about Mariican 37 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: this podcast. Merrick was asked to fill in for a 38 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: month on Breakfast Radio, which is an intense gig. He's 39 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: done it full time. I've done it for full time. 40 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: It's real hard. But initially he turned it down. He 41 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: was overwhelmed by personal challenges in his life, including the 42 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: recent passing of his mum. So I wanted to know 43 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: how do you find the strength to take on more 44 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: pressure when life is already so heavy. What Merrick said 45 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: about honing the blade and how pressure can actually help 46 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: you perform better really blew my mind. 47 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 2: Brecker Radio is good. It's I think it's because of 48 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: the purpose and the reason why I'm doing Brecky Radio 49 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 2: because I was asked to fill in for a month 50 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: on Triple M and initially I was like, Nah, I can't. 51 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: I'm too busy, I've got too much on And also too, 52 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: I had an enormous personal upheaval just prior to that, 53 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: my mother was dying, literally dying and passed away just 54 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: three weeks ago. Yeah, so it was like, I don't 55 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: need this. This is the lasting line need is breakfast radio. 56 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: But then I thought about it and it was what 57 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: inspired me to do it on is number one. Knowing 58 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: that it's going to come at the end of four weeks, 59 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: it's pretty good. It's not an open thing. It's like, yeah, 60 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: I can do it for four weeks. But also it's 61 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: an excellent opportunity to hone the blade. And I'm a 62 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 2: big believer as a stand up comedian. We often get 63 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: a push every now and again for managers be like, 64 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: how long has it been since you've done stand up? 65 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: And it's not about generating the money, it's about keeping 66 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: that muscle memory and that skill set. So a big believer, 67 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: and I've seen I know all too well that if 68 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: you go too long a period without doing stand up, 69 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: you lose that eage, you lose your timing. And it's 70 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 2: the same with radio. It's not about losing, it's just 71 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 2: about just bringing it back to a very very fine edge, 72 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: because then that edge allows you to perform in so 73 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: many other different realms. I was like, actually, right now, 74 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: more pressure is probably going to help me with things 75 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: rather than hinder me with things. I don't need stress, 76 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: but pressure is different distress. 77 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: Merrick's ability to see pressure as a tool for growth 78 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: rather than a burden is something that is so valuable 79 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: to learn from. It's good to be a reminder that 80 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: sometimes leaning into a challenge can help us sharpen our 81 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: skills and to build resilience. The key here, if we 82 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: can learn anything from that, is when you get thrown 83 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: a curveball, how can he use those moments to strengthen 84 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: your ability at hitting curveballs rather than ducking. It's not 85 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: about avoiding stress. It's about reframing it as an opportunity 86 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: to grow and what you can how you can become 87 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: better out of those really really difficult times. The other 88 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: thing that I found really fascinating to learn about Merrick 89 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: was how Merrick and his wife made a deliberate choice 90 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: to send their children to a school which emphasizes languages 91 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: and global understanding. The way they approach parenting is fascinating. 92 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to know why is a global perspective so 93 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: important to him as a parent, and what he said 94 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: about preparing his kids for a world beyond borders was 95 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: so fascinating. 96 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: Obviously, a tolerant nation very important for my children to 97 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: be in Australia. There's understanding the world. Australia is a 98 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 2: nice ladd country. We're a big island. We've always been 99 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: isolated like that and we've done it a great incredible 100 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 2: feet of civilizing this country. When I say civilizing, you know, 101 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: populating it and managing a country that it's got such 102 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: harsh terrain. You know, it's a difficult country to live in. 103 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: We know that, but I think you know that kind 104 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 2: of isolationist attitude is probably we've got to let go 105 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 2: of that. 106 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: You know. 107 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 2: It's the modern era is we don't have to be 108 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: all boarded up and protective and you know, scared anymore. 109 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: And that's you know, that's xenophobia amongst other things. But 110 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 2: also to just you know, the exchange with the rest 111 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: of the world, and that includes England. You know, it's 112 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: with everyone, our free flowing exchange with people. We've always 113 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, I feel like we've as a country, 114 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: we haven't been like you know, you look at Europe 115 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: there's a really fluidity between borders and ideas and concepts 116 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 2: and stuff. Australia, I think, you know, we are certainly 117 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 2: changing that way. But you know, for my kids, my 118 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: kids go to a school where I actually don't know 119 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: if they have any white friends. My son's friends are 120 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: all like him, mixed nationality. You know. He's one of 121 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: his best friends is half Chinese, half Vietnamese. He's got 122 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: another friend who's half Sri Lankan, half French Russian Balinese. 123 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 2: It's like it's like a little United Nations. And I 124 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: like that because I think that that will put him 125 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 2: in a position to relate to the rest of the 126 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: world on a global understanding of global stage, because we'll 127 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: stop thinking so much about just about nation and country 128 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 2: and more about region. And I'm seeing it now, you know, 129 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: with region and then global understanding. So and that's why, 130 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: very specifically, my wife and I chose to send him 131 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: to that school, not to you know, a school where everybody. 132 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: There's not a social hierarchy there. It's not like a 133 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: private school where people judged on how much money they have. 134 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: It's not about that. It's a it's a school that 135 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: educates in languages and global understanding. 136 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: I love Merrick's parenting philosophy. It's a beautiful example of 137 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: forward thinking. I wish I could think that far ahead. 138 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes I can't, but I really do I consider when 139 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: I think about that, I do consider how exposing how 140 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: I was exposed to diverse cultures and how or do 141 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: and I try to expose our kids diverse cultures and 142 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: diverse languages really prepares our kids for a more connected 143 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: but also a more empathetic way of living in the world. 144 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: We need to take a quick break. We're back with 145 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: Meeric in a moment. Thanks for listening to this show. 146 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: I've got one final thing that was really surprising to 147 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: learn about Merrick Watts. He's just launched a drink. Well 148 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: in the last year, America's launched a drink called Posca, 149 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: and it was based on a Roman recipe once used 150 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: by soldiers and gladiators. I wanted to know how did 151 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: he find this ancient beverage, how did he bring it 152 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: to life in the modern world, and the way that 153 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: Merrick describes just like he's done with his entire career, 154 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: just blazing a new trail and new category, complete new 155 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: category in the beverage market on the shelf at the store. 156 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: Just it really caught me off guard. 157 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: I was doing some research for a Needa's God to Wine. 158 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: I was planning on writing the show. I was doing 159 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 2: some research for it, and I discovered an ancient formula 160 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,239 Speaker 2: called Oscar, which was ancient Roman drink that the Legionnaire's 161 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: drank right around Europe. The Roman army. 162 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: Marched on it quite. 163 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 2: Literally, and it was a base of red wine, vinegar 164 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: and salt to which they added water. And what the 165 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: Roman army would do is they would march all the 166 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: way through Europe and this actually allowed them to take 167 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 2: so much ground and when they came across a new 168 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 2: water source, they would purify it using the red wine, 169 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: vinegar and the salts, and of course they're just they're 170 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: just microbial killing all the crap in the water, because 171 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: more people would in those days. Certainly more people will 172 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 2: dive through disease and battle. Oh yeah, it's really common. 173 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: So as they were on the march, they come across 174 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 2: a new water source, they would make a blend of 175 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 2: posca for people to drink this. The gladiators drank it, 176 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: the Roman soldiers drank it. Emperor Hadrian who took it 177 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: to the UK, and he was, of course the Roman 178 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 2: emperor who conquered Great Britain. He actually mandated that his 179 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 2: troops were only allowed to drink wine every second day 180 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: because he didn't want to and they were drinking pasca 181 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 2: the other time, and he himself would drink posca and 182 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: solid already with his troops, everyone was drinking. 183 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: At what point did you realize in the energy drink market, 184 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: which is shall we say crowded, actually there's room for this. 185 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: This can work because it's entirely unique. It's actually a 186 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: new category itself, which presents enormous challenges, but also to 187 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: long term I believe the greatest benefits. So no one's 188 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: ever done this. No one's ever made posca like this anywhere. 189 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: Other people have made it, but no one has gone 190 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: out with a brand called pop. No one has brought 191 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: it to life. And for me, the challenge was all, well, 192 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 2: what do I want to do this? I thought, I 193 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: would love to see an Australian made an invented drink, 194 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: supported and developed here, spread throughout the world. 195 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: I would love that red. 196 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 2: Bull did it. Why can't we have a little Ossie 197 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: red Bull story. 198 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: I love Merrick's passion for this thing. I love his 199 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: passion for the whole thing, not just for the historical 200 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: roots of it, but also his vision of creating something 201 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: uniquly Australian with truly global potential. I love that it's 202 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: so inspiring. Don't be afraid to bring new ideas to life, 203 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: even if they challenge existing norms. Capital favors. The brave, 204 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: go and make some ideas happen. Let Merrick be your guide. 205 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: He could have sat back and done Bricky radio until 206 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: he bought enough boats that he couldn't sail in all 207 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: at once. But he chosen this path and I love it. 208 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: I love it that was just three things to learn 209 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: about Merrick Watts. How he uses his purpose and passion 210 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: to sharpen his skills, certainly when resilience is required, and 211 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: how he seeks out things to sharpen that blade, the 212 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: way he parents his children to be more globally minded, 213 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: and just how he's just put his foot to the 214 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: floor like he used to drive his old mac one 215 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: Mustang and just going yep, I'm going to build this thing. 216 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: Let's make it. I'm going to innovate boldly and it's 217 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: really delicious by the way. Like I said, Merrick's got 218 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: a gig this Saturday night in Tasmania if you feel 219 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: like hopping over the Ditch and the Southern Ditch and 220 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: got to check out Grapes of Mirth. It's in Lonceston. 221 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: I believe. There's also a story club on Sunday night 222 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: at the Factory Theater. Tickets are in the show notes 223 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: gets a couple left, but grab it now. There's also 224 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: where you can sign up to the newsletter and subscribe 225 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: to the pod. Thank you so much for listening, Thanks 226 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: to Damien having it, for producing this show, Cassidy Creeping, 227 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: my Ea Wolfgang, thank you, thank you there you go 228 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: Thanks buddy, i'll see you Wednesday.