1 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Hello, en, Welcome to an L three sixty rugby league 2 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: from every angle thanks to Ford Ranger. 3 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: And after a blockbuster week. 4 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: In Las Vegas with record fans, record ratings and unbelievable footy, 5 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: the NRL is finally back. 6 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 3: And the comeback kids have done it again. 7 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 4: Thirty seven years, seven premierships and last year a nineteen 8 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 4: year old drought broken. Still that's as good as any 9 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 4: record in history, Avonnie, and no team in the NRL 10 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 4: is expected to win more than the Broncos. 11 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:51,959 Speaker 5: And with this mob, with the. 12 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 4: Talent, the youth and now the belief, you get. 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 6: The feeling that they are just at the beginning. 14 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 4: How good are the Broncos the twenty twenty five premiers 15 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 4: and favored to reign again this year, But it's showtime 16 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 4: Las Vegas done and dusted yet another triumph put. 17 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 5: Him have back there without the Briz. 18 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: What's called now for round one? 19 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 5: Back home? 20 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 4: Back in Australia. The greatest game in yes, greatest country 21 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 4: of all. 22 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: Australia without rugby league is not Australia. 23 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 5: First up, it's the Storm and the Eels. 24 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 4: Melbourne's Carry Grant, the gifted captain of a team never 25 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 4: faced and never ever a first round loser. 26 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 6: Subject Club Paramatta mittual, Moses Big. 27 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 4: Junior, Paulo, don't get cigabate, Storm and the Eels. 28 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 5: That's Thursday night. 29 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 4: Next up Friday night at five, We're across the Dutch 30 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 4: for the Warriors and the Roosters. Shakespeare said, the climb 31 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 4: steep hills requires a slow pace at first. This season 32 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 4: the Warriors are ready to put their sizeable foot down. 33 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 4: The Roosters pride upon nine, always ready to make a 34 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 4: splash now with a new number six, who swam all 35 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 4: away from Manly, then to the match of the round, 36 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 4: straight to the top shelf. 37 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 5: The Broncos and the Panthers. Last year these two. 38 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 4: Sites produced the greatest final of all time, with the 39 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 4: Bronx ending penless long stranglehold on the premiership. 40 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 5: But don't worry, they're rebuilding. 41 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 4: Super Saturday of Von Sampson, Cooper Cronk and this big fella. 42 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 4: Welcome to Fox League, the run and Only Jared Warria Hargreaves. 43 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 5: They're your hosts. And off the top it's the Sharks 44 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 5: and the Titans. 45 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 4: Sharks from the Shire, all efforts and muscle contenders. 46 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 5: A game back to me. Voight's back to me, back 47 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 5: to me. 48 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 7: It's important you understand why we play this game. 49 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 5: New coach Josh Hannay and Big Tino. 50 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 8: Game try and kill everyone today. 51 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 5: Scary as all get out, putting even more. 52 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 4: Super into our first Super Saturday Seagulls. 53 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 5: And Ricky's Raiders. 54 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 4: Jamal Foggerty from steering one side. 55 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 6: To the other, Tommy Turmo to Garrick and Sarb all Flyers. 56 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: I promise you will be entertained. 57 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 5: Up against the equally brilliant. 58 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: Kyo Wakes and up Summer Rockstar. 59 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 5: The unbelievable Ethan Strange. 60 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: Pay that Strange, the best prop. 61 00:03:58,560 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 8: Forward in the game. 62 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 4: Joey Tarpany Sunday ticket. Just one game, but what a 63 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 4: game it is. The Dolphins and the Rabbit as the hammer. 64 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 4: Here we go, Hervey Farmworth versus Latrelle Mitchell Mitchell on 65 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 4: the crack stage. 66 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 5: What a classic beginning on a Brown of Rugby League. 67 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 6: Rugby League twenty twenty six, right here on Fox. 68 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: League, joining me again, good and tell us, let's bring 69 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: the journeys in. Paul Crawley and Dave Ricky on after 70 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: Vegas cording We're back after that. 71 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: They're ready to rock and there has been big news today. 72 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: Zach Lomac's Paramotter Eels, the Melbourne Storm. The saga is over, Dave, 73 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: talk us. 74 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 3: Through it, Yeah, Brake. 75 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 7: Look, almost four months this contract saga between the Melbourne 76 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 7: Storm and the Paramatter Eels, it has come to an 77 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 7: end today and it is by way of the rejection 78 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 7: of a seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars transferred deal 79 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 7: offered to Paramatter via the Melbourne Storm to basically release 80 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 7: Zach Climax to them, and the Eels have denied that, 81 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 7: rejected it, and it now leaves Zach Climax in a 82 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 7: situation without an NRL club and without the ability to 83 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 7: sign to an NRL club. 84 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: Until twenty twenty eight. 85 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: We were hearing the deal was done twenty four hours ago. 86 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: What's changed. 87 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 7: The Ryan Madison factor is the biggest factor. It's the 88 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 7: mitigating factor. So initially there was a three hundred thousand 89 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 7: dollars offer put to the Paramatter rules and of which 90 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 7: on top of that, the Storm we're willing to cover 91 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 7: four hundred and ten thousand dollars worth of Ryan Madison's contract. 92 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 7: Now it was a one year deal with a second 93 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 7: year option. Now, if Ryan Madison. Sorry, Ryan, the guarantee 94 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 7: of a second year, not just the option. He want 95 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 7: to guarantee the storm wouldn't guarantee the second year. And 96 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 7: it's fallen over because Ryan Madison won't go. 97 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: Just before I get to you, goody, I'll come to you. 98 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: I just want to clarify something because I think a 99 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: lot of the fans are unsure about this. 100 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: Now. 101 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: Seven and fifty thousand dollars that sounds a lot, right, 102 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: But that is not for them to use on the 103 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: cap for players. It sits outside the caps, outside the 104 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: it's important. That's just for the foot cast. That's just 105 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: cash to do whatever you want. But you can't buy 106 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: first grade playing. I'm on paramatic side. 107 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 9: I think it's about time that clubs have been able 108 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 9: to do deals, and they can't do good deals anymore, right, 109 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 9: So they go sign a player, they shave faith. 110 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 2: He's there for four years. 111 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 9: After one year he walks out, And I'm actually glad 112 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 9: and talking to the fans as many as do. I 113 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,679 Speaker 9: think that that is a great win for the fans, 114 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 9: that when you sign a player that he's got to 115 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 9: he's got to live up to his deal and his word. 116 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 3: Look, I don't have a problem with the way Paramatter 117 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 3: of handled things. 118 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 7: They've stood on their digs and said, this is the contract, 119 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 7: you agree to it, you go on to R three sixty. 120 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: We have every right not to release you to a 121 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: rival club unless we get something in return. No problems 122 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 3: with that. 123 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 7: I just think I just don't think there's any winners whatsoever. 124 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 7: That's my problem that an elite player, an elite player 125 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 7: is now out of the game. 126 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 8: Have a problem. 127 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 10: You know what, it's a win for It's a win 128 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 10: in restoring some faith in the NRL's contract system. Because 129 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 10: Paramata had a contract with Zach Lomax, he wanted to 130 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 10: get out of it. They agreed to that. They sat 131 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 10: down and they agreed to terms. And he couldn't then 132 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 10: stand by that Ryan Madison right, who's been caught up 133 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 10: in this not of his own doing. He had every 134 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 10: right to stand his ground and do what he did. 135 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 10: And for the Paramatter administration, this is a club that 136 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 10: for decades has lacked leadership, and Matthew Beach and Jim 137 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 10: Sarentinos at the moment they deserve so much credit for 138 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 10: doing the right thing by their club, their football team. 139 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 8: And buy the game. 140 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: Sorry, Dave, you said, there's no winners in this. Yeah, 141 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: you don't think Paramatta week. 142 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: Where what have they got out of it? 143 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: Or respect, respect and credibility. They've stuck to their guns. 144 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: They put it, they put a contract. They don't need 145 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: to play. That's what they wanted, they want to They 146 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: still they've still got money in the down. 147 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: They don't need Melbourne currently money in the capital. 148 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: Mate, why would they they're currently down an Orange player, 149 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: But why would you. 150 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 9: Give an origin player to to a club that's played 151 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 9: in like ten grand vinyl LA's two. 152 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: That would have been like that would have been a loss. 153 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: That's the lost. 154 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 3: So hang on a seat. But they still haven't received anything. 155 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: But they don't need it. They're happy. They're happy to 156 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 2: honor the contract. 157 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: They don't want to take a second tier player from Melbourne. 158 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: They didn't want someone that Melbourne didn't want. They didn't 159 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: want to understand. 160 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 5: They didn't want to load. 161 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: Give Melbourne a loaded gun with one of their best. 162 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: Players and decided to walk out on them to compete 163 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: against them, not only in round one but as premierships. 164 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: Paramatter look great at the moment. I love what they're 165 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: doing and a lot of a lot of what they're 166 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: doing on the field. I think has got to do 167 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: with what they're doing offer and the stands they're taking, 168 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: the coach they've hired and agree with that they're backing themselves, 169 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: and that to me, he says a lot to the 170 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: playing group as well. Knowing that you know what you 171 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: want to play with us, should play with us. You 172 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: want to walk out to another code knowing that there's 173 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: a ten year band there. If you walk out, then 174 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: see you later and don't let the door hit you 175 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: on the way out. 176 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 10: Any talk too of the restraint of trade, Like it 177 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 10: was Zach Lomax's choice to walk in and say I 178 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 10: want to leave this club, not to go and play 179 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 10: with for another NRL team. He wanted to go and 180 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 10: play a rival code in a startup competition. So even 181 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,599 Speaker 10: the fact that Paramatta is standing their ground on that, 182 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 10: that doesn't deny Zach the opportunity to go and play 183 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 10: rugby Union Australia, go and play in Hong Kong, America, France, 184 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 10: wherever the bloody hell across. 185 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 3: That's not good for the NRL. 186 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 8: How is it not good? Because this is good? This 187 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 8: is good because built game the game. 188 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 10: Imax would Rugby League survived without Gordon Tallis's brafer and 189 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 10: thats Wally Lewis reg Gas. You go for as long 190 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 10: as you want, there would always be someone to come through. 191 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 10: But what makes sports sport is a fair system. And 192 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 10: if he would have walked out on that contract, said 193 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 10: he was going to a rival code and then came 194 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 10: back and played for a team that played the Grand 195 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 10: Final this year and they're expected to pick up a 196 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 10: second rate player in return, well that's not right, mate, 197 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 10: and that's not a fair competition. 198 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 3: You know, I'm not arguing with that fact. 199 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 7: You know, I agreed Paramatta, I said from the top. 200 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 7: I agree with their stance. What I'm disappointed is that 201 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 7: we haven't reached the resolution that zachly. 202 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 9: For his management to go out there and get another 203 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 9: deal in twelve. 204 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: Months, because when you look into it, Dave, they didn't 205 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 2: agree to Melbourne. They didn't agree to Melbourne's tub. 206 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: Another club can come in and give a better option 207 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: of a player, but they can at the president they tomorrow, 208 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 1: So they and we all know that over the next 209 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: twelve months there's going to be teams that need someone 210 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: like Zach. 211 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: So it's just Melbourne I have missed out here. 212 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: Because they didn't have a player the game, because because 213 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: Melbourne are under the pump, because they've lost a lot 214 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: of players and they need every player on their roster 215 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: and on their books. Right now, I'll ask you this question, 216 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: and you guys, said Joseph Salley, Joseph Martin. The list 217 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: goes on of players that left our game over the years. 218 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: Do you watch Vegas over the weekend? Have he's seen 219 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: our Grand Final last year with Reees Walsh. 220 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 2: And every man coming off the bench and payhas Do. 221 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: You really think our game and we're going to blink 222 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: in Iley this year? And this is no disrespect to Zach, 223 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:37,599 Speaker 1: but do you really think the game is going to 224 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: really be hurt that much by him not being here? 225 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 226 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 7: Look, I get worried about diluting talent growth. We're bringing 227 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 7: two new teams in right and if you only go 228 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 7: and but he will be if you only go go 229 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 7: and look at the junior rugby league and the grassroots football. 230 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: It's dying, mate, it is dying. Are you going to 231 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 3: say this is I'm just saying we need superstars in 232 00:11:59,400 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: the game. 233 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 8: Just said right. 234 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 10: Zach Clomax is sitting on the sidelines at the moment, 235 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 10: and if you watch the trials, a young Blake come 236 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 10: out for the West Tigers and the win and tries 237 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 10: against the Roosters get it and then one of the 238 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 10: best individual tries you'll ever see. They jump out of 239 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 10: trees and they rise to the challenge. And there's so 240 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 10: many good young kids out there. If given the opportunity, 241 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 10: they will rise. 242 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 7: To the I'm not Zach Lomax's biggest fan. I think 243 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 7: he's highly polarizing, but he puts bums on seats. Go 244 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 7: ask the Paramatta fans last year when he kicks the 245 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 7: winning field goal whether they were happy. Then. 246 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: I think it's about Zach Lomax so much. Here, it's 247 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: about the situation. It's about the credibility of our game, 248 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: and it's about honoring contracts that we've been. 249 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: Talking about for years. 250 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: We've been talking about it for years now and this 251 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: was a great chance for us to really show that 252 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: you've got to if you sign a contract. 253 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 2: It's it's just too bad. And I'm going to reiterate 254 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 2: he will be. 255 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: Back within I reckon six to eight months, he'll be 256 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: with another team. If not, maybe that Melvin saw me. 257 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: If they can release a player. 258 00:12:58,240 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: Of a whole caliber. 259 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 9: Who was Zach relationship with his advisors or management over this? Yeah, 260 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 9: because question it sounds like that he's got the wrong 261 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 9: advice or the ducks weren't well, he's got no contract, 262 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 9: he was going to a pie in the sky, a 263 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 9: rugby union thing that when Peter Vlanis, who I trust, goes, 264 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 9: I've had a look at their numbers. 265 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: It can't work and does and didn't he just look 266 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 2: at that. 267 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 11: Sack himself or was it his management going We don't 268 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 11: know what's happened there between between agent Clinton Schakowski and 269 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 11: player Zach Lomax. 270 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 10: What we do know is that he either ignored good 271 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 10: advice or he took bad advice. And so where this 272 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 10: goes from here will be interesting to watch where where 273 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 10: Zach goes with this, because if you look at the 274 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 10: situation and the players that were being linked to R 275 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 10: three sixty, there was there was Lomax, there was Joy 276 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 10: Gray Shaikowski's and who was the other one Sakowski's. 277 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 8: But this there is a common denation. 278 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 9: And it was all my doing, right, So I had 279 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 9: my manager, he gave me advice and I went against it, right, 280 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 9: But he could be doing exactly the same. 281 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: Thing what I would say when three sixty come up, 282 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: and I was did you get phone calls? Yeah, from 283 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: a third party about Cameron now as an agent, as 284 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: an advisor, as a mentor. You've got to look at 285 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: it all, right, that Peter Veleenni's comes out and says 286 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: it's a ten year ben right, there's no competition that 287 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: there is no competition as yet, so any guarantee of 288 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: any guarantee of money, it's all it's a huge risk. 289 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: You're rolling the dice. 290 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: So there was if it was all this, So really 291 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: there's got to be some accountability taken by by him 292 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: and his team here. You know, they've they've made like 293 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: I would never put my player in a position like that. 294 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: I just wouldn't. And that's not having a direct crack 295 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: at then. 296 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: But if you peel it all back, it was higher 297 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: risk from the get go. There was nothing there, and 298 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: Peter Valeni said it himself, you know, and there was 299 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: the risk of your player not turning for ten years, 300 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: and you're happy to just do that. You're going to 301 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: roll a dose, you know, you're gambling. We just come 302 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: back from Vegas. But they went all in and they 303 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: got a ducky, and this. 304 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 10: Is where a lot of the I guess the anger 305 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 10: and resentment from a lot of the fans came from, 306 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 10: because I don't think up until the NRL came out 307 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 10: with their threat of a ten year ban, anyone would. 308 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 8: Have thought that even possible. 309 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 10: But when it did, right, it really isolated Zach and 310 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 10: the fact that when the Melbourne Storm pitched up to 311 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 10: getting back for this year, fans were outraged thinking well, 312 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 10: hang on a second, there was a ten year ban 313 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 10: threat and now because that's fallen over, he's back in 314 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 10: round one and Paramatter are now without an international slash 315 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 10: state of origin winner. 316 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: Let's take a look at what the Eels had to 317 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: say today. The legal case was never about preventing Zach 318 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: from returning to the NRL. It was about ensuring that 319 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: the terms of Zach's release, which Zack agreed to after 320 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: seeking legal advice, were it here to you. As I 321 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: have said before, contracts are important, are an important part 322 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: of the innerella as they are for every member of 323 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: the community. 324 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 3: So they've stood on their grounds. I applaud them on that. 325 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 7: And there are plenty of other clubs, a lot of 326 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 7: rival clubs that have been sitting back watching this unfold 327 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 7: and actually applauding them as well, because everything he said 328 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 7: is right, like the contracts need to stand for something. 329 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 7: And you know, I'll be interest see what Parama to 330 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 7: get out of it. That's what they're down in origin 331 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 7: player fellas they are and i't to anyway. 332 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, gone. 333 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 10: Gone And I think for the club, what they what 334 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 10: they and I said at a moment ago, what they 335 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 10: get out of it is that they now know they've 336 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 10: got two blakes leading this joint and along with a 337 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 10: good coach who are going to stand up for the club. 338 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 10: They're not going to be bullied into doing something they 339 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 10: don't want to do and threatened into it. 340 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 8: They're going to actually make it. 341 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 10: It could be the making of Paramatter even though you've 342 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 10: lost sack Lamer. It could be the making of them 343 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 10: as a premiership force again. 344 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 9: Dragon's then Paramatta. Are clubs willing to put their hand 345 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 9: up because he looks like a serial contract breaker as well? 346 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 2: A bitsack. 347 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 9: Signed four years left after one A club's going to 348 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 9: come out and jump for well. 349 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 7: This is where this is where with respect to the 350 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 7: Melbourne Storm, this is where people raised eyebrows. Why are 351 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 7: the Melbourne storm, the Great Melbourne Storm going down. 352 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 3: The path of zach Limak. 353 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: Have a look at their roster because of his hissues lost. 354 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's quite obvious what they're gone through him. They 355 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: can see that they's good. 356 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 3: His question. 357 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: There are clubs and there will be The seven hundred 358 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: and fifty thousand you said at the top of the 359 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: show you thought was a good resolution offer, you would 360 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: you would have accepted that if your paramount, Well. 361 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 2: I would have. 362 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, I would have because you can put it. There's 363 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 7: multiple things. 364 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 3: You can put it towards. 365 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, what. 366 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 8: Bustfmore. 367 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: They need help. They've got lack of sponsors and the 368 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: paper machine. 369 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 2: Is not working. 370 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 7: Seven hundred fifty thousand does nothing at footy clubs, but 371 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 7: d need to make you win. 372 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 8: It doesn't make you wind. 373 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 10: It's a salary cap environment where if you lose an 374 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 10: international player and you're not happy with what a rival 375 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 10: club is offering you, even if it made if it's 376 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 10: a million two million dollars, that's not going to help 377 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 10: you your football team on the field. You've got to 378 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 10: stand up for what you believe is right, all. 379 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: Right, he was Coach Jason Rowles has reacted to Zach 380 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: Lomac's result while putting his hat in the ring for 381 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: another start. 382 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 12: We just we're on the field, so we've just got 383 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 12: off and just found out. So it's good that there's 384 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 12: a resolution and we can all move on now. It 385 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 12: was something that was above where I sit, and there 386 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 12: was a contract in place, and yeah, I think the 387 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 12: club just held its ground and did what was within 388 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 12: their rights and we move on. But I honestly our 389 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 12: focus is in the next sort of twenty four hours 390 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,479 Speaker 12: and preparing the players to be the best they can 391 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 12: be for Round one. Yeah, certainly some of them would 392 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 12: potentially look at you. I think that's an area of 393 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 12: our roster that we can certainly strengthen. So yeah, I 394 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 12: think us, like many clubs, will be obviously looking in 395 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 12: that space. 396 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: Dave coach Jason Roll saying that they will make a 397 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: play for Barnett. 398 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: Can you talk to that. 399 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and they will and they have. 400 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 7: They've already held discussions with Mitch Barnett's management and that's 401 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 7: a genuine option for Paramatter. 402 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 3: Look, they're not the only club. 403 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 7: Newcastle mainly Segules are watching the situation as well. 404 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 3: He'd be significant for Paramatter. 405 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 7: I think I think any club picking up miss Barnett 406 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 7: terrific is clearly a representative front rower. And it's only 407 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 7: through circumstances that he's leaving the Warriors. So this one 408 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 7: will play out a little bit longer. 409 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: Well, it means he's coming back to city yep, Newcastle. Yeah, 410 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: means to have some money to spend day they surprise, surprise. 411 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 8: Well, let's hope they get something out of it. 412 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 2: It's funny again. 413 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: Has usked the into to explain five incidents in the 414 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: hard fought loss against the Bulldogs. 415 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: He wasn't happy. A lot of the fans weren't at 416 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 2: behold their head, Gordon. 417 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: They were blowing up. They were blowing up in Vegas 418 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: at the airport. We copped it the whole next day. 419 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: And you know what, they probably had a right to 420 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: be upset with a few of them. How did you go, 421 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: I see these crawls will come to You had a 422 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: right to be upset. 423 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 8: They had a right to be filthy. 424 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 10: Like when you watch that game and you've got a 425 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 10: team that I've tipped and other people have tipped for 426 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 10: the wooden spoon, they've gone out and they've played their 427 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 10: absolute hearts out in that game. But the rubb of 428 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 10: the Green just didn't go their way. And it was 429 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 10: several causes the club has pointed out. 430 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: You know. 431 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 8: There was the backslam, that was the Kriton not getting sinned. 432 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: Look let's go through and then the strip. This is 433 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 2: the Crichton one. Mate. 434 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 10: Well, I don't know what you think about this, right, 435 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 10: but that that young winger, he is going under a bomb. 436 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 10: Crichton's coming through it one hundred and fifty miles an hour. 437 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 8: He's got the total. 438 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 10: It's his responsibility as the tackling player to have a 439 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 10: duty of care. The young fella has lowered his body 440 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 10: to catch the kick and buckle up for impact. But 441 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 10: Crichton has to have some duty of care in that tackle. 442 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 10: And so when you've watched an hour earlier, you've watched 443 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 10: in the first game, Braden Burns get sin bin for 444 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 10: the tackle on Kaylen Ponger. 445 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 8: And then Crichton's gone and done that. 446 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 10: He's put his hand up in the air, my bad right, 447 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 10: accepted that he's done it wrong. It's put on report, 448 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 10: but there is no sin bin. And then when the 449 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 10: charge sheet comes out, Crichton's not on it, you know. 450 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 10: And then you get to the end of the game 451 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 10: with the strip. And what really infuriates me about this 452 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 10: is that, yes, referees make mistakes, right, referees make mistakes. 453 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 8: But then it's been reported in the media that it 454 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 8: was almost too close to call. If it was a 455 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 8: street for it should have been for one hundred years. 456 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 8: That's it's a loose carry. 457 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 10: And if the new interpretation says that that's now a penalty, well, 458 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 10: the new interpretation stinks. 459 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 2: That gets worse every time I see, yeah, that's a 460 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 2: loose carry. 461 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 3: How will we saw adamant that that's not a strip. 462 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 7: And yet if the NRL see that it's a little 463 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 7: bit too blurry, we can't pick it up whether it's I. 464 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 3: Always think it's not a strip. 465 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 7: It's firmly believed Stephen Crichton should have been sind in 466 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 7: for that high shot. 467 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: And the thing I would say on that that said 468 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: to too drop. I get it. And when I when 469 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 2: they look at these. 470 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: And we go over it every week on the show, 471 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: is mitigating circumstances and that's what saved you. 472 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: I think. I'm just I'm not saying he shouldn't have 473 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 2: been because. 474 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 10: RESPONSI like, if if it's gonna it's like in any 475 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 10: case where a player hits someone high, it's your responsibility 476 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 10: to make sure that doesn't happen. 477 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: That's right. I'll sit next to bo. 478 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 8: It was intentional. 479 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 9: Well, if Young said to too jaw, if he lays down, 480 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 9: I reckon there might have been tenable A right. 481 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: Gordy and I have had our say on the Dragons 482 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: after the game and last night's all three sixty or 483 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,239 Speaker 1: coming to the U two. 484 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 2: First, what did you think of the Dragons first performance? 485 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 10: I thought they were incredibly brave. I thought that they 486 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 10: were They played to probably as good as they can play. 487 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 10: And you know, and I'm not having a crack at 488 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 10: them here, but in my mind they have the most 489 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 10: limited roster in the competition, right, but they play with 490 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,239 Speaker 10: great guts and to push aside like the Bulldogs who 491 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 10: most of us have in that top four bracket or 492 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 10: contenders for the top four and down and against field position, possession, everything, 493 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 10: penalty count, the whole kitten canbrtle. They've gone out and 494 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 10: pushed him to the wire and in the end it 495 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 10: came down to a rotten call that gave the opportunity 496 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 10: for Christen to beat him in. You get a lot 497 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 10: of faith out of there, but I do still have 498 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 10: some concern about their lack of ability to score. 499 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 8: Points and I think that that will be their achilles 500 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 8: heel throughout the year. 501 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, look Echoes crawls. 502 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 7: The sentiment so incredibly brave, and I thought what was 503 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 7: pleasing is they're highly paid players. Their big stars actually 504 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 7: were there better players. I'm talking about Damian Cook and 505 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 7: Guffer as well. And the other thing too was the 506 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 7: arrival of Daniel Atkinson's kicking game. And this is a 507 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 7: bloke that hasn't played a lot of full time halfback 508 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 7: and I thought his kicking game was important. But I'm 509 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 7: with you, I don't know how they Jacob Little's a 510 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 7: big out for them if you actually reflect on his 511 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 7: influence last season. Bringing him back into the rotation with 512 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 7: Cookie will improve their attack, but they're going to have 513 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 7: to shout up. 514 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 8: Last year break. 515 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 10: So we talk about Atkinson's kicking game was great, like 516 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 10: really long kicking game. It added something that they've been lacking. 517 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 10: But we also have heard so much about Atkinson and 518 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 10: his potential to be a running threat, and I'm not sure. 519 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 10: I think he finished with five runs for twenty something. 520 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 10: Leaders you look at the opposition halves who really cut 521 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 10: loose with their running games. Would you wanted or expected 522 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 10: to see more in that part of his going? 523 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: Sure, you know, I think the jury is definitely still 524 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: out on the seven experiment and then even the halves 525 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: there with him and Funny and the most creative players, 526 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: like you said, with Damian Cook and Clint Gothas, and 527 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: you don't really want that. Even though it was great 528 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: they stood up and played well the senior players. Katon 529 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,719 Speaker 1: game is great for Makinson, but there was a lack 530 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: of creativity from both the seven and the six. Yeah, 531 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: but that's it is a new combination, right and you 532 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: know again I love the one they've played with hard. 533 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: It was similar to the whole season last year. It 534 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: was like cut and pass. But what they do need 535 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: to go to another level is Atkinson and flanning him 536 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: to be more creative and that's where the microscope is 537 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: going to be on them for the next four to 538 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: six weeks, and then Shane Flenninger will have a decision 539 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: to make over that time if it doesn't evolve. So, 540 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: you know, it was a solid start and you don't 541 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: want to be critical. 542 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: Because they played tough, you know, but they got some 543 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 2: what to do. 544 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,959 Speaker 1: What about critter Stephen Crichton for the Bulldogs stands up, 545 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: the iceman delivers the best player on the field, and 546 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: I would say the best player under pressure and big 547 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: moments easily on that field over a number of years 548 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: now said. 549 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 2: Give me the ball. No one else can get this done, 550 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 2: give it to me. I want this over with, And 551 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 2: that's what he did he when that came. 552 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 10: You know, the Bulldogs had had numerous opportunities to try 553 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 10: and nail this and they just couldn't get it home. 554 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 10: And then it came down to the final what fifteen 555 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 10: or so seconds of extra time or golden point and 556 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 10: you see Crichton drift deep behind the line and you're 557 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 10: thinking to yourself, of course he's going to get course. 558 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 8: And it never looked like missing, Like what. 559 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 9: A player stand up whant to own the moment? Yeah, 560 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 9: but I'm looking at the seven and six. They got 561 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 9: a penalty fifty meters out. If you look at all 562 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 9: their social medias Burton hits them from sixty, I'm I'm sitting. 563 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 2: They come, put your hand up and. 564 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 10: Take what about with was it four minutes left on 565 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 10: the clock in regular time? They get a scrum feed. 566 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 8: They've got a whole set to play with, because let's have. 567 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 2: A look at it. 568 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: Because this is what stood out to me, and again 569 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: I said it after the game, and this is the 570 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: question mark I have over the halves, you know, being genuine. 571 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: Seven or six now four and a half minutes to go. Now, 572 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: ever since I was twelve, you know, as a half, 573 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: and I'm not being disrespectful. 574 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: If the score is level and there's less than five 575 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: minutes to go, I'm setting up for a field goal. 576 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 2: I just damned. 577 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: There is there no other, no other you know, maybe 578 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: have a shot, play one or two. 579 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 2: This is the big one here. 580 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: So they get to a good position for it now, 581 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: Galvin takes it hit up now, Burton doesn't even look 582 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: for it on play four and again then they get 583 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: to another spot now where Galvin n Burton could set 584 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: up for the field goal. 585 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 2: They're not even looking for the field goal here. It is. 586 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 9: Look, there's no one at the back, thirty that could 587 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 9: be thirty back. 588 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 1: This to me like, you know, again, you don't want 589 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: to be too harsh, right because I thought both of 590 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: them played well, but this is their job. In this moment, 591 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: they see the deal fifteen minutes later, but they may 592 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: not have got chances that the Dragons had icet it 593 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: and this was this is the perfect opportunity to take 594 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: an easy field. 595 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 2: Goal and mind you great tackle to say what could 596 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 2: have been a try. 597 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: But it's the high percentage play from any of the 598 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: great I mean, could you imagine Thurston Kronk, you know 599 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: you people. 600 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 10: Were sitting in the Fox League commentary team and he's saying, 601 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 10: you don't even wait for tackle four or five, go 602 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 10: for it straight away. 603 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 8: That was his comment before this unfolded. And so Braith, Yes, Lockie. 604 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 10: Galvin was great in the first half and Matt Burton 605 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 10: was terrific in the second half. 606 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 8: But what we spoke about all last year continues to 607 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 8: be the theme. 608 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 10: And if you didn't have all that controversy about the 609 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 10: Dragons being robbed by the refs, this is the big 610 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 10: issue coming out of that game because you've still got 611 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 10: I don't care what they try and tell you, you've 612 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 10: still got to genuine five ads trying to team up, 613 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 10: and that moment where you've got four minutes to go 614 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 10: and they don't set up, they've got no one taking charge. 615 00:28:58,920 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 8: Of the team. 616 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 10: The noise so what happened last year, it threatens to 617 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 10: happen again this year. And sure in time Lockie Galvin 618 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 10: give him forty sixty games as a half back, he 619 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 10: will probably. 620 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 8: Develop into a half pack. But I don't think that's 621 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 8: their plan. 622 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 10: I think their plan is to bring through Mitchell Woods 623 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 10: as their number seven, and they've also got a Sullivan 624 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 10: sitting there. So do they want to win the comp 625 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 10: this year? And is this their best option as their 626 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 10: halves pairing? 627 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 2: Will Woods be ready this year? Dave? If they wanted 628 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: to use. 629 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 7: Him, He's certainly not ready now, Brath He's had some 630 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 7: hiccups through this preseason and it's largely he will get 631 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 7: He gets going during the preseason and then he has 632 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 7: a setback with his body and then they have to 633 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 7: rebuild it again. So that's where they're at with Mitch Woods. 634 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 7: There's no doubt that there's a full belief that he 635 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 7: will get there break, but I don't see that as 636 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 7: being the best option. 637 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 3: I think it will be sure oh Sullivan. 638 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 7: I think Sean O'Sullivan would be the next half in 639 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 7: line to step in should they decide to shuffle this 640 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 7: spine up. 641 00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 8: So it was. 642 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 10: Interesting too in the and it was the previous two 643 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 10: weeks in their their final trial and Burton went off 644 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 10: the field and O'Sullivan came on. It was almost instant 645 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 10: he took charge of that team, you know what I mean, 646 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 10: because he hasn't got Galvin's flair and he hasn't got 647 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 10: his talent, but he's just a natural seven. 648 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 8: That seems to be what they're lacking. 649 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 3: I think it's the best option. 650 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 8: So will they swallow their pride? 651 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 7: And but I think that's a better option with Sullivan 652 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 7: running the team. He's experienced and he's. 653 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 3: A super switching. 654 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 2: The crazy thing about that. 655 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 3: Night and Galvin playing six and find a spot for Mattie. 656 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: I'll get to Burton. The crazy thing about that is 657 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: just like a full circum moment. Though you've got rid 658 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: of Sexton, you know, you've brought similar to O'Sullivan. You 659 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: put Gavin in there with Burton, and then after experimenting 660 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: with that, eland back at O'Sullivan. 661 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, like you kind of back where 662 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 2: you started again. That's what I think. 663 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: If and I'm saying if because it's one game here 664 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: they've won, you know, and they I think they'll get 665 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: better and I think they're going to be top four, 666 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: I really do, regardless even of the issue they've got 667 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: with the halves. But if it does end up with 668 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: O'Sullivan and the Woods instead of a Galvin, and Galvin 669 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: goes to six, what's going to happen to Burton? Because 670 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: the Burton noise was around last year, you know, with 671 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: all these moves, what do you think happens to Burton? 672 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 7: Well, the thing is he's on significant money and he's 673 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 7: off contract at the end of next season, not this season, 674 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 7: end of next season, so. 675 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 3: Decision will have to be made anyway. 676 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 7: And Perth are always there's always smoke around Perth and 677 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,239 Speaker 7: Matt Burbo what's his best position then? 678 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 3: I just don't think. 679 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 7: I think he's had a lot of time at five 680 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 7: to eight now, I really do, and with what great results. 681 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 7: Really he's an outstanding footballer. I'd have him at center 682 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 7: awful back. 683 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 10: If I was picking the Canterbury team with what they 684 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 10: have at the moment, I would rather Burton staying in 685 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,479 Speaker 10: the team at six, the moving Galvin. And even if 686 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 10: you're brought in oose Sullivan, I still reckon at this 687 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 10: stage of his development and this is not a crack 688 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 10: at Galvin as a player, but at this stage of 689 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 10: his development, I think Matt Burton offers you more than Galvin. 690 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: It's going to be fascinating to see our players yet, 691 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: but we all knew that it would be because all 692 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: eyes were going to be on quite a few of 693 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: the Harvest pairings coming in to the competition, and after 694 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: week one, we still don't have a real read on 695 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: where Burton and Galvin are at, you know, Like, so 696 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: the next few weeks are going to be interesting. Stick 697 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: around Joe Nays as we head to or Break. Here's 698 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: a look at the new series rival,