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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Pits Talk podcast, brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Shannon's Insurance for your dose of all things F one

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Speaker 1: and Moto GP. Alrighty, Joel Kelso, welcome back to Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2: How you going great? Great? Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Oh we're so excited. I mean, this year is a

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Speaker 1: big year for you. There's been some big changes, but

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Speaker 1: we know you're back in OZ right now. We saw

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Speaker 1: you attending the Formula One over the weekend, so we

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Speaker 1: won't talk too much four wheels. We want to talk

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Speaker 1: about two wheels. But obviously twenty twenty six, new year,

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Speaker 1: new team, new manufacturer. How are you feeling about everything

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Speaker 1: so far?

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Speaker 2: Good? For sure, It's not been the easiest start, for sure.

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Speaker 3: I mean we did now almost I was looking at

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Speaker 3: it the other day, I think, like six years on

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Speaker 3: the KDM, so back because also we're on it in

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Speaker 3: the Junior World Championship. So now the transition to the

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Speaker 3: Honda is obviously not being super super easy and we're

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Speaker 3: struggling to adapt a little bit. But to be honest,

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Speaker 3: going into it, we knew that would be the case.

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Speaker 3: So with the team, we already discussed like way ahead

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Speaker 3: of time. We said okay, could potentially take two three

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Speaker 3: which is the podium positions.

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Speaker 2: But then we're all working the right way to arrive there.

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Speaker 3: I think it's difficult, you know, I've come from podiums

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Speaker 3: last couple of years to now be struggling a little bit,

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Speaker 3: and obviously that's a bit hard coming away from the

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Speaker 3: first round. But I think this is just a short

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Speaker 3: term thing. I think after maybe I think after coder

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Speaker 3: a little a little bit difficult for the Hondo, I believe.

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Speaker 3: But other than that, then by then we should have

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Speaker 3: the grips understand the bike a little bit more because

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Speaker 3: also I brang over a lot of new crew to

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Speaker 3: the new team, but they've never worked on Hondu as well,

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Speaker 3: and that's probably caught us off guard a little bit

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Speaker 3: because we rise how different. Also the setup is between

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Speaker 3: the KDM and the Honda. So now we're just trying

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Speaker 3: to figure out that. I'm trying to figure out the bike,

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Speaker 3: which is the strong points, because you know, it's actually

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Speaker 3: and then the same advice versus week KDM. But I

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Speaker 3: just don't know the maximum how to get out of

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Speaker 3: the strong point and the weak point of the HONDI yet.

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Speaker 3: So once I get my head around that, I'll be fine.

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Speaker 3: And then I think also when the team understand, you know,

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Speaker 1: Well, because I know you mentioned in your post race

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Speaker 1: post on social media that you having to adapt to

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Speaker 1: a new writing style. How does that work? Because you

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Speaker 1: guys can get a lot of testing time. We know

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Speaker 1: that weather really interrupted it. So then coming into round

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that was the issue. We lost Portimo, which

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Speaker 3: of it because no one's stressed, no one's got pressure

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Speaker 3: looking over I wonder what you're doing and wonder where

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Speaker 3: you're not going fast. So the testing you get a

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Speaker 3: It's not been an easy start for sure, like you said,

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Speaker 3: it is my pace is actually really decent, like as

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Speaker 3: But the problem is the first ten lap, so I

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Speaker 3: Because also we changed the bike so much from well,

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Speaker 3: So the first ten labs, not only was I not

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Speaker 3: We just kept running off track everywhere. I think we

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Speaker 2: But I want to got the grips to it.

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Speaker 3: We started since and light at the end of the tunnel,

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Speaker 3: in every situation which is happening.

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Speaker 1: Now, we know you signed a two year deal with

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Speaker 1: Quotes in there, but two years with m Love for

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Speaker 1: the upcoming seasons. What excites you most about going to

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Speaker 3: First of all, we did a two year deal on

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Speaker 3: I'm proving to the Moto two teams in the paddock

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Speaker 3: on KDM, you know, with believe four or five podiums

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Speaker 2: So that's the real reason.

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Speaker 3: Why I wanted to change over, because you know, we

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Speaker 3: we've proven that I can do well on Ogadin. We've

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Speaker 3: gave me a lot of leeway to make this team great,

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Speaker 3: and like I said, I bring.

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Speaker 2: A lot of new crew over.

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Speaker 3: blank page to say you're welcome, do whatever you like

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Speaker 3: bring us to the top, which was a cool project

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Speaker 1: So I didn't realize this. So, Okay, you're coming. You're

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Speaker 1: kind of like now the number one writer. Eddie's been

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Speaker 1: so you've kind of come in and you're trying to

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Speaker 1: help bring everything up. Do you like having that pressure

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Speaker 1: of you're getting to lead the way or do you

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Speaker 1: prefer just to have, I guess, go out the base

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Speaker 2: No, most definitely, of course.

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Speaker 3: I prefer get the results straight away and be in

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Speaker 3: somewhere Like I mean, I could have went to a

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Speaker 3: But I do really enjoy this project so far, you know,

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Speaker 3: the team's in English based team, so it's cool to

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Speaker 3: And I just think that a project like this will work.

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Speaker 3: And that's why I'm really confident that after a couple

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Speaker 3: I believe, you know, with this new restructure, we can

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Speaker 1: You mentioned earlier about once you get past Cooder, it

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Speaker 1: seems like you get back to those European circuits and

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Speaker 1: that's where everything kind of settles down again. Is there

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Speaker 3: Definitely am marking off the tracks, but we're trying to

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Speaker 3: in Brazil, and probably still America will start to show

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Speaker 3: I can't say, but we're doing a lot of things

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Speaker 3: work in the stage two, which is, you know, trying

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Speaker 3: joll the bikes. You know, all the components inside the

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Speaker 1: Exactly. Well, Joe Helso, thank you so much for taking

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, see us all zoon.

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