1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Fitzi and Whipper podcast. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 2: After ten days of morning, yesterday, Queen Elizabeth was laid 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: to rest the first sovereign's funeral at Westminster Abbey in 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty two. 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: Years, in the arms of Royal Navy Sailors London for 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: silent for her Majesty's final. 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 3: Goodbye service in life hope in death. All who followed 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 3: the Queen's example can with her say we will meet again. 9 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 4: Well, I thought it was extraordinary. I thought the whole 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 4: proceeding last night and the lead up, but the actual 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 4: running the tribute and also the pageantry and the professionalism 12 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 4: of the members of service that carried out the proceedings 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 4: was just extraordinary. 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: Royal Butler served the Royal family. Grant Harold joins us now, Grant, 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: thank you very much for your time again mate. 16 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: Hey guys, thanks haming back on Grant. 17 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,319 Speaker 4: Thank you buddy. And we know we look down at 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 4: the TV numbers knowing that half the world's population tuned 19 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 4: in to send off and celebrate the Queen last night. 20 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 4: Our time was nighttime. What was amazing was learning about 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 4: the rehearsal and the work and the fact that the 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 4: Queen had spent time also planning the proceedings. 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, she was involved in every It is weirder 24 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: that mate saying we talk about how most people have 25 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: to plan. Well, she planned everything you saw. Literally, she 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: was aware of the whole Anything we saw today, she 27 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: was involved, and not only what we saw today, even 28 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: that the other parts of Operation Unicon which took place 29 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: in Scotland, she was involved in all the planning. So 30 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: immediately she was she was involved in it. 31 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: Grant what is buried with her? I'm not quite sure 32 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: what goes down with her, but do you know no, 33 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: I mean. 34 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: There was something that was placed on that. It's interesting 35 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: because with previous royal funerals we've we've seen more, I 36 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: think in this one than what we've ever seen before. Now, 37 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,119 Speaker 1: the staff that was broken, I know that's the Lord 38 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: Chamberlain's staff or or it's a symbolic thing basically, and 39 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: the Lord chamberin is that is the most senior position 40 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: within her household and basically breaking that is to show 41 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: that the end of the connection with her, the Lord 42 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: Chamberlain is no longer her. It's that's what's broken. The 43 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: piece of cloth generally don't know what that is, but 44 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: obviously that was something very symbolic. But I was amazed 45 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: at how much we saw because it's it's it is 46 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: quite a private affair. And also we even saw a 47 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: little bit of her being lowered into the vault, and 48 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: then of course this evening she was loaded into a 49 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: certain section where Prince Philip was late Prince Philip, and 50 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: then the scene and they were then moving them to Well, 51 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: actually remember that, guys, because we actually have Do you 52 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: remember we had a visit there but four years ago 53 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: when we went do you remember when we had a look, Well, 54 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: that's the crypt that they will be moved to, so 55 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: they'll actually be in the same spot as her late 56 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: father and mother and sister. 57 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: It's it's actually quite creepy when you walk past that 58 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: creep it is because you know what you say, all 59 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: that right there, the history, and they're right there, and 60 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: when mother past. 61 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all I mean, there's so many royals there. 62 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: I read somewhere that it can hold. It's some scarny amount. 63 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: It's it's seventy eight of them and at the moment 64 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: it's that it's something like fifty ory and that's a 65 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: lot of that's a lot of royals. You know a 66 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: lot of history, and as you said, it is it 67 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: is strange because somebody said to maybe do they not 68 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: get buried and it's not exactly doesn't work like that. 69 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: You know, the aristocracy in this country a lot of 70 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: these kind of big useful homes and things, they have 71 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: these mausoleums, and they basically get kept in these mausoleums. 72 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of how it's done that our family. 73 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: That's what happens at winds that. 74 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 4: Do you know much about the crown that's set on 75 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 4: I'm sure it's not called a pillow, but the crown 76 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 4: that's set on the pillow on top of the cocution, 77 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 4: on top of the coffin during the proceedings, is that 78 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 4: the crown that has stuck with the royal family for 79 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 4: what has been over a thousand year round. I mean, 80 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 4: how old you What do you know about that crow? 81 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: That that crown is quite old. It has been modified 82 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: over the years. The crime that I think you're maybe 83 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: thinking of is the coronation crime, which is an edress crown. 84 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: Now that one is only ever used at the coronation. 85 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: It's the only time that the queen ever wore that 86 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: it's most people don't even know about it, and that 87 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: is the crime. That's that when you talk about the crown, 88 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: and that's what King Charles will be crowned with. That 89 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: is a crime one that you start say is the 90 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: imperial steak crime. Now that one is used for all 91 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: ceremonial purposes. So quite often we saw the Queen wearing 92 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: that so symbolically it's quite important because it's what we 93 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: it's what we're so wearing, and that is the and 94 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: that she wears. The actual crowning crime only ever gets 95 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: used one that when we've seen a lot, and I 96 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: find it really I can see guys, I find it 97 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: really emotional when they took took off the he of 98 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: her coffin absolutely almost because what they do is it 99 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: sounds extraordinary, but they almost strip her of her her 100 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: because it's basically because their belief is that when they're buried, 101 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: they go back to being a human being with no privileges, 102 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: no titles. No, it's very symbolic. Basically that was taken 103 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: it away. She would always be, you know, the late 104 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: Queen as the second, but they've taken away the crime 105 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: so that she's like everyone else. She's been buried in 106 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: that way, and now across the crime will next few 107 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: years the King charles the fans, so. 108 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 5: Which is kind of beautiful because then obviously if they 109 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 5: did the private family service, that would have been more 110 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 5: reflecting her the person, not her the roy. Do we know, 111 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,239 Speaker 5: I know it's probably a bit soon, but after after 112 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 5: a funeral like this, when that coronation happens, is that sort. 113 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: Of all it's going to have to be quite thin. 114 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. Already there's rumors over here. I'm 115 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: sure you guys have heard. There's rooms here. There's going 116 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: to be a summer coldination, and I think it has 117 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: to be somewhere because the opening of Parliament, which the Queen, 118 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: sorry the late queen used to do, is something that 119 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: the King would do. Now I think they'll want to 120 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: have had him possibly crowned by that point, possibly, So 121 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to guess, and it's going to be I 122 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be long. I mean, I'm 123 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: even going to visualize probably d during time, and then 124 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: as soon as that's done, we're then going to have 125 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: the investure of the prince and princes as a will. 126 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: So there's there's quite a lot still to come. 127 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 4: You know what I found fascinating last night. Not fascinating, 128 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 4: but it was a great reflection where we feel, as 129 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 4: much as we're in touch, we're slightly removed, and that 130 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 4: we're not over there and we're British founding, we're not 131 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,679 Speaker 4: British here in Australia. But there was the minute silence 132 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 4: that they had last night, and that was the moment 133 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 4: where they crossed the crowd and just to see the 134 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 4: supporters and the people of England that had come out 135 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 4: onto the streets linking arms with their eyes closed. The 136 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 4: impact it's had on the public will last for a 137 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 4: very long time. 138 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: It will, and can I mention I've actually bumped in 139 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: today to quite a few Australians who have been so upset. 140 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's extraordinary, you know, just seeing people from 141 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: all over the common of all walks of life, even 142 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: though I'm not even part of the Commonwealth, and just 143 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: seeing I mean, I've got to make a quick confession. 144 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,239 Speaker 1: I was working with media this morning then I actually 145 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: needed to get away. I wanted to This is a 146 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: bit strange. I wanted to can have my own goodbye, 147 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: and I tried to plan it so that I could 148 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: see the procession because I didn't want to watch it. 149 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to remember ever watching the screens. So 150 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: I went off and you won't believe this, guys. I 151 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: got lost, and amazingly I ended up at the palace. 152 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: I have no idea how it's even possible with those 153 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: so many roads closed. And the police officers said to me, 154 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: are you okay? And I said, I'm just trying to 155 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: get one glimpse of the Queen's cough and as it 156 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: has passed, because all these most people here and I 157 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: just want to have one and explain my background. And 158 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: they very ken, you say, if you stand there, there's 159 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: nobody else there, you can see it. And I became 160 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: a bit of a wreck because I was the only 161 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: one standing there and the procession went right past wown. 162 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it, guys. I mean it was just like, 163 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: well it can pretty flung. 164 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 4: It's funny. 165 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: But the point is after that, I then studies seeing 166 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: people in the crowds from all walks of life, and 167 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: you know, so many people were just just crying, police 168 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: officers crying, military crying. It was extraordinary. 169 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: Well, Grant, well, you appreciate all the time that you've 170 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 2: given us over the years, like it's just been amazing 171 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: to get to know you from the first wedding with 172 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 2: Prince William and Kite over there and and and you 173 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 2: know I have this friendship. We know how busy you are, 174 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: but appreciate you. Tom Grant, Thank you so much for 175 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: coming on the show. 176 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: My pleasure and hopeful I'll see you guys in London 177 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: for a joyous occasion before too long. 178 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 4: Absolutely Grant, thanks again, mate, Take care body, bye bye. 179 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Fitzi and Whipper podcast