1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:13,521 Speaker 1: Apogee, production, life stuff, life, parenting. 2 00:00:14,281 --> 00:00:16,441 Speaker 2: We're doing life together and we're just going to tell 3 00:00:16,481 --> 00:00:17,161 Speaker 2: you all about it. 4 00:00:17,601 --> 00:00:21,881 Speaker 1: I hate the word perimenopause. I can't We're not in menopause. 5 00:00:21,961 --> 00:00:28,641 Speaker 1: Like it's making me angry. What Welcome back to another 6 00:00:28,681 --> 00:00:32,561 Speaker 1: episode of Who even Are We? It's a very fun 7 00:00:32,601 --> 00:00:37,841 Speaker 1: topic today. When I say fun, the topic is low libido. 8 00:00:38,161 --> 00:00:41,121 Speaker 2: Who's it fun for? Who's it not? I really like, 9 00:00:41,321 --> 00:00:43,921 Speaker 2: who's it fun for? I mean, is it fun for you? 10 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: Is it fun for them? Is it fun? It's not 11 00:00:45,961 --> 00:00:49,001 Speaker 2: fun for anyone. No, not being the person that's not 12 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: getting it, but also the person that's not vibing it, 13 00:00:52,081 --> 00:00:53,761 Speaker 2: like it's tough, tough conditions. 14 00:00:53,881 --> 00:00:57,761 Speaker 1: It's funny because I talk to people of our age 15 00:00:58,001 --> 00:01:02,201 Speaker 1: that are married like us, and they're in the exact 16 00:01:02,241 --> 00:01:02,721 Speaker 1: same boat. 17 00:01:02,921 --> 00:01:03,121 Speaker 2: Yep. 18 00:01:03,281 --> 00:01:07,841 Speaker 1: There's a kind of a joke around going, oh I'm married, Like, okay, 19 00:01:07,921 --> 00:01:10,761 Speaker 1: we have sex every third Tuesday. Like there's a joke 20 00:01:10,801 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: around it. Like the guys say it too. Yeah, oh yeah, 21 00:01:14,041 --> 00:01:16,921 Speaker 1: you know, I'll get lucky on my birthday. Like that's 22 00:01:17,081 --> 00:01:20,921 Speaker 1: a thing between married couples, Whereas we've got single friends 23 00:01:21,321 --> 00:01:27,881 Speaker 1: who are like horny, horny, little devilly little. 24 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: Devil's that just gagging for it. At times, I completely agree. Look, 25 00:01:33,121 --> 00:01:37,361 Speaker 2: I'm forty one and I remember hanging out with a 26 00:01:37,401 --> 00:01:40,721 Speaker 2: certain group when I was thirty. They would have been 27 00:01:41,161 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: late forties, and I remember overhearing conversations and then there 28 00:01:45,521 --> 00:01:48,481 Speaker 2: was like this ongoing joke around it's once a month 29 00:01:48,761 --> 00:01:52,201 Speaker 2: and it's only on the nights. Like so his giveaway 30 00:01:52,281 --> 00:01:54,721 Speaker 2: that it was that night, that one night in the 31 00:01:54,761 --> 00:01:58,801 Speaker 2: month was like she would cook sausages and if it 32 00:01:58,841 --> 00:02:01,521 Speaker 2: was sausage night, he knew it was sausage it was 33 00:02:01,601 --> 00:02:05,481 Speaker 2: sausage night. But it was like they I made such 34 00:02:05,521 --> 00:02:07,761 Speaker 2: a joke of it, and I remember like hanging out 35 00:02:07,761 --> 00:02:10,601 Speaker 2: with them, going like is this legit? Like this is real? 36 00:02:10,841 --> 00:02:13,521 Speaker 2: Like wow, But at the same time, I think you 37 00:02:13,601 --> 00:02:16,601 Speaker 2: flip forward, like what is it ten years? Ten years? Plass, 38 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: And then I just have that moment in time where 39 00:02:21,001 --> 00:02:23,201 Speaker 2: I was a shopping center. There was something on the 40 00:02:23,201 --> 00:02:26,361 Speaker 2: back of the door in the toilet, and in the 41 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: time that it was literally for me to do a WII, 42 00:02:29,281 --> 00:02:31,321 Speaker 2: I'd noticed this thing on the back of the door 43 00:02:31,361 --> 00:02:34,041 Speaker 2: and I'd gone like, it goes, do you have any 44 00:02:34,081 --> 00:02:37,561 Speaker 2: of these symptoms? And it's like a page worth of symptoms, 45 00:02:37,601 --> 00:02:39,321 Speaker 2: and in the time that I'm weining, I'm looking going, 46 00:02:39,361 --> 00:02:43,361 Speaker 2: oh my god, I've got I've got that, and like, 47 00:02:43,441 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: do you know what it was for? What the sheet 48 00:02:45,561 --> 00:02:47,401 Speaker 2: of paper was, Like, do you have any of these symptoms? 49 00:02:47,441 --> 00:02:50,161 Speaker 2: Do you know what it was for? No? Perry men, 50 00:02:50,361 --> 00:02:54,361 Speaker 2: oh fuck off? Slash menopause? Oh no. And so I'm 51 00:02:54,481 --> 00:02:57,321 Speaker 2: like going like I'm winged, and I'm looking and I'm 52 00:02:57,321 --> 00:02:59,921 Speaker 2: thinking I've got all of them. And so then Katie, 53 00:02:59,960 --> 00:03:02,681 Speaker 2: what do I do? I go ring my doctor. I 54 00:03:02,761 --> 00:03:05,561 Speaker 2: must get a blood test to find out where I 55 00:03:05,601 --> 00:03:08,361 Speaker 2: am because I'm ticking a lot of those boxes. And 56 00:03:08,401 --> 00:03:10,321 Speaker 2: when I say I'm ticking a lot of those boxes, 57 00:03:10,841 --> 00:03:13,721 Speaker 2: like all of them major, there's majors in those. 58 00:03:13,761 --> 00:03:16,281 Speaker 1: But then that so two things. First of all, you 59 00:03:16,321 --> 00:03:17,321 Speaker 1: can have a blood test for that. 60 00:03:17,601 --> 00:03:20,361 Speaker 2: No you can't. I thought I could. Okay, okay, So 61 00:03:20,561 --> 00:03:22,881 Speaker 2: don't judge me, and do not go out to your 62 00:03:22,921 --> 00:03:25,881 Speaker 2: doctor and say, hey, I just need a blood test 63 00:03:26,001 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: to tell me if I'm in perimenopause or menopause. Why 64 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,601 Speaker 2: Because I seen it on the back of a door 65 00:03:30,641 --> 00:03:32,601 Speaker 2: in a toilet. It's screaming me. 66 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,841 Speaker 1: There was a picture of me on the poster. 67 00:03:37,281 --> 00:03:39,401 Speaker 2: She just laughed and she was like, Rach, do you 68 00:03:39,641 --> 00:03:42,241 Speaker 2: genuinely think you're going to get a blood test and 69 00:03:42,281 --> 00:03:45,161 Speaker 2: it's going to say you're in menopause? And I was like, oh, 70 00:03:45,321 --> 00:03:47,841 Speaker 2: I just thought maybe, like if we did really thorough 71 00:03:47,881 --> 00:03:49,881 Speaker 2: blood tests and it gave me all the results, you 72 00:03:49,921 --> 00:03:51,961 Speaker 2: would get a gauge on where I'm at. And she 73 00:03:52,081 --> 00:03:55,481 Speaker 2: was like, no, not at all. I was like, Okay, 74 00:03:55,521 --> 00:03:56,641 Speaker 2: well let's see the blood. 75 00:03:56,481 --> 00:03:58,841 Speaker 1: We tell by your mood when you start getting really 76 00:03:58,881 --> 00:04:02,121 Speaker 1: angry at everything. No. The other thing for me was 77 00:04:02,161 --> 00:04:04,881 Speaker 1: going to be ten years ago we went in peri 78 00:04:05,081 --> 00:04:07,121 Speaker 1: menopause and I still was the same. 79 00:04:08,481 --> 00:04:11,001 Speaker 2: Ah, we blame it on, can't blame it. 80 00:04:11,041 --> 00:04:12,881 Speaker 1: So I feel like we blame it. First of all, 81 00:04:12,881 --> 00:04:15,961 Speaker 1: we blame it on after you've had your children, so 82 00:04:16,161 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: giving birth, your body hormones, breastfeeding you have these massive, 83 00:04:21,401 --> 00:04:25,601 Speaker 1: great looking breast and they can't come anywhere near. 84 00:04:25,841 --> 00:04:28,561 Speaker 2: But I had some girlfriends that were like complete opposites 85 00:04:28,641 --> 00:04:32,001 Speaker 2: where when their boobs were like that, breastfeeding like that 86 00:04:32,161 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: was super sensitive, so that made them even more like Randy, 87 00:04:35,641 --> 00:04:37,921 Speaker 2: and then they was straight back on it, like having 88 00:04:37,961 --> 00:04:42,241 Speaker 2: sex within like three months or like less than three months, 89 00:04:42,241 --> 00:04:44,921 Speaker 2: like six weeks after having kids, and I. 90 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,481 Speaker 1: See mom were painful. I was like, don't come anywhere, 91 00:04:47,521 --> 00:04:51,321 Speaker 1: samee you for the babies. 92 00:04:51,401 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: Me too. I was like, no, don't touch anything, it's 93 00:04:55,121 --> 00:04:56,001 Speaker 2: all out of bounds. 94 00:04:56,161 --> 00:04:57,841 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we blame it on that, and then I 95 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: feel like we blame it on tiredness because we're up 96 00:05:00,561 --> 00:05:00,961 Speaker 1: all night. 97 00:05:01,281 --> 00:05:03,801 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then weep Deprivation kills people. 98 00:05:03,961 --> 00:05:08,321 Speaker 1: Yeah, then we blame on little people that are gonna walk. 99 00:05:08,121 --> 00:05:12,241 Speaker 2: In life happens. People get time poor. Yeah, people get 100 00:05:12,281 --> 00:05:15,081 Speaker 2: exhausted because they're time poor because they're trying to fit 101 00:05:15,121 --> 00:05:18,401 Speaker 2: in everything else. Then you just get distracted. People are 102 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,681 Speaker 2: so distracted now on phones, like people would rather consume 103 00:05:21,721 --> 00:05:23,481 Speaker 2: phones and consume each other's bodies. 104 00:05:23,681 --> 00:05:27,241 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's interesting because I had a chat with my 105 00:05:27,401 --> 00:05:30,241 Speaker 1: husband Jay the other day. We laugh about this because 106 00:05:30,961 --> 00:05:34,561 Speaker 1: touch is definitely my love language. I love to hug people. Yeah, 107 00:05:34,761 --> 00:05:35,801 Speaker 1: some people hate it, like. 108 00:05:35,761 --> 00:05:41,801 Speaker 2: You, I know. So it's wonderful that we're co hosts. 109 00:05:42,081 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: I'm not remembering a very drunken night where I was like, 110 00:05:45,001 --> 00:05:47,761 Speaker 1: hugging you, going, this will be your love language one 111 00:05:47,841 --> 00:05:53,961 Speaker 1: day anyway, Still not, but that's fine. But he was like, oh, 112 00:05:54,001 --> 00:05:56,161 Speaker 1: you know, we don't like we get straight out of 113 00:05:56,161 --> 00:05:58,361 Speaker 1: bed in the morning, so alarm goes off, straight out 114 00:05:58,361 --> 00:06:01,321 Speaker 1: of bed, pick up your phone, and there's like, why 115 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,721 Speaker 1: don't we just have a cuddle in the morning. And 116 00:06:03,801 --> 00:06:06,801 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I can't cuddle you. He's like, what 117 00:06:06,801 --> 00:06:08,801 Speaker 1: what do you mean I can't. I'm like, because I'm 118 00:06:08,801 --> 00:06:12,001 Speaker 1: afraid because the minute I cuddle you, you'll want something more. 119 00:06:12,281 --> 00:06:14,881 Speaker 1: Because that's what I feel like. It is code for 120 00:06:15,681 --> 00:06:18,401 Speaker 1: with guys, and they can be on at any time. 121 00:06:18,921 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: They don't have to think about it. They can have 122 00:06:21,161 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: just been through an argument. You don't have to be 123 00:06:23,361 --> 00:06:27,081 Speaker 1: emotionally attached. It's just literally on. It's like a switch, 124 00:06:27,521 --> 00:06:33,401 Speaker 1: whereas us like, I'm like, like, put old grape jamas 125 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: on tonight. I can tell he's in that mood, like 126 00:06:37,081 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: just you know, old old only undies. 127 00:06:42,201 --> 00:06:45,241 Speaker 2: Then they're on tonight. 128 00:06:45,561 --> 00:06:52,161 Speaker 1: All of your skin. But we laugh. But I'm like, yeah, 129 00:06:52,201 --> 00:06:54,761 Speaker 1: you're right, I should really be just giving you a hug. 130 00:06:54,801 --> 00:06:57,721 Speaker 1: That's nice. I like hugs. It's nice to be close. 131 00:06:58,401 --> 00:07:01,481 Speaker 1: But however, there's a part of me that goes, don't 132 00:07:01,521 --> 00:07:04,881 Speaker 1: hug him, don't don't go anywhere in because that's when 133 00:07:05,521 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: it'll be on. 134 00:07:06,401 --> 00:07:09,121 Speaker 2: And that's exactly right. You haven't got time for it. 135 00:07:09,201 --> 00:07:12,441 Speaker 2: I'm going to get up for work, exactly. I also 136 00:07:13,441 --> 00:07:16,401 Speaker 2: I also hate morning breath. Some people love it. Some 137 00:07:16,441 --> 00:07:19,441 Speaker 2: people love the idea of just turning and facing each 138 00:07:19,521 --> 00:07:25,241 Speaker 2: other and then just macking on both with your dirty, stinky. 139 00:07:24,801 --> 00:07:26,801 Speaker 1: Breast stick breath. 140 00:07:27,081 --> 00:07:31,561 Speaker 2: Sleep in your eyes leep, No thanks, not for me. 141 00:07:32,001 --> 00:07:37,321 Speaker 1: I did some therapy on low libido and what that 142 00:07:37,401 --> 00:07:41,921 Speaker 1: can possibly mean, and yes, you're right, hormones, perimenophorse, all. 143 00:07:41,761 --> 00:07:44,961 Speaker 2: Of that shit, because like, within our bracket, I'm not 144 00:07:45,081 --> 00:07:47,321 Speaker 2: like fuck, I hate age as it is, so I 145 00:07:47,321 --> 00:07:50,161 Speaker 2: hate him and saying that. But within a certain age bracket, 146 00:07:50,201 --> 00:07:52,241 Speaker 2: you have to take you into consideration the fact that 147 00:07:52,281 --> 00:07:55,641 Speaker 2: your body is physically changing. And I'm not talking about 148 00:07:55,681 --> 00:07:58,641 Speaker 2: just boob sagging. I'm talking about other things. It starts 149 00:07:58,681 --> 00:08:02,961 Speaker 2: to change internally and externally. And then I think with 150 00:08:03,201 --> 00:08:06,121 Speaker 2: that is a reflection of your life bibido because of 151 00:08:06,361 --> 00:08:11,081 Speaker 2: the changes, Like obviously hormonally everything's changing, so then your 152 00:08:11,161 --> 00:08:14,321 Speaker 2: libido is getting your libido's getting hit left, right and center. 153 00:08:14,521 --> 00:08:18,681 Speaker 2: Then you wonder why you're feeling so pressured to like, 154 00:08:18,841 --> 00:08:21,321 Speaker 2: why don't you want me, and you're like, just live 155 00:08:21,321 --> 00:08:24,121 Speaker 2: in this body for a fucking hot Minute's live in 156 00:08:24,121 --> 00:08:27,241 Speaker 2: this because this has got no feeling, like none. If 157 00:08:27,281 --> 00:08:29,161 Speaker 2: I was to view myself right now and someone said 158 00:08:29,241 --> 00:08:31,161 Speaker 2: draw a picture of yourself, I would draw a Barbie 159 00:08:31,201 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: doll because that's how much feeling I've got right now. 160 00:08:35,921 --> 00:08:39,081 Speaker 1: Well, and it's interesting because then I spoke to you 161 00:08:39,161 --> 00:08:41,801 Speaker 1: about a massage that I had. This is a time ago, 162 00:08:42,281 --> 00:08:45,001 Speaker 1: but it was a male masseuse. It was one of 163 00:08:45,081 --> 00:08:50,721 Speaker 1: those Asian massage shops. Yeah, and he did such a 164 00:08:50,801 --> 00:08:56,041 Speaker 1: great massage that I was so turned on and I thought, 165 00:08:56,121 --> 00:08:59,481 Speaker 1: I don't care what you look like, who you are 166 00:08:59,961 --> 00:09:02,881 Speaker 1: like if you were to do anything more. I had 167 00:09:02,881 --> 00:09:05,561 Speaker 1: the same in Baralie Hyah. Again it was a male 168 00:09:05,961 --> 00:09:11,921 Speaker 1: masseuse and it was this little Balinese behind a curtain 169 00:09:12,241 --> 00:09:17,281 Speaker 1: and he went right up into my groin, like right 170 00:09:17,401 --> 00:09:20,441 Speaker 1: up in there. And this is so millennial. We talk 171 00:09:20,481 --> 00:09:24,321 Speaker 1: about this as well, about consent, and my girls would 172 00:09:24,481 --> 00:09:27,601 Speaker 1: never have allowed that. If they had a massage he 173 00:09:27,681 --> 00:09:30,041 Speaker 1: was getting all up in that, they would absolutely put 174 00:09:30,041 --> 00:09:33,801 Speaker 1: a stop to it. I was like, oh god, yeah, 175 00:09:34,681 --> 00:09:35,601 Speaker 1: just allow it. 176 00:09:38,801 --> 00:09:41,081 Speaker 2: This is on a T shirt, Just allow it. Allow 177 00:09:41,161 --> 00:09:42,041 Speaker 2: it allow it. 178 00:09:42,081 --> 00:09:44,601 Speaker 1: But this is our generation. Right when I look at 179 00:09:44,641 --> 00:09:47,881 Speaker 1: the work that I've done on low libido, we have 180 00:09:48,001 --> 00:09:50,641 Speaker 1: gone back with my counselor we have gone back to 181 00:09:51,241 --> 00:09:54,761 Speaker 1: a time where there was an unhealthy relationship with sex 182 00:09:54,841 --> 00:09:59,361 Speaker 1: because you view it as more of a transaction than 183 00:09:59,401 --> 00:10:03,121 Speaker 1: an actual thing that you're wanting to do. And I'm 184 00:10:03,121 --> 00:10:06,001 Speaker 1: not saying you didn't want to do it, but for me, 185 00:10:06,561 --> 00:10:09,881 Speaker 1: I think there was an element of the feeling of 186 00:10:09,921 --> 00:10:14,121 Speaker 1: being loved. So yes, I'll have sex with that guy 187 00:10:14,161 --> 00:10:17,361 Speaker 1: I met in the nightclub on a one night stance 188 00:10:17,761 --> 00:10:19,881 Speaker 1: because it's making me feel loved right now. And don't 189 00:10:19,921 --> 00:10:22,801 Speaker 1: get me wrong, yes I enjoyed it. But when I 190 00:10:22,881 --> 00:10:25,601 Speaker 1: look back at some of those behaviors and what I 191 00:10:25,641 --> 00:10:29,401 Speaker 1: was using it for, yeah, it's interesting because we did 192 00:10:29,401 --> 00:10:32,721 Speaker 1: the work around low libido now and how I've always 193 00:10:32,801 --> 00:10:37,561 Speaker 1: viewed sex, And even when you're married or when you're 194 00:10:37,601 --> 00:10:40,921 Speaker 1: in a long term relationship, there are definitely times and 195 00:10:41,001 --> 00:10:43,841 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I've spoken to a female that 196 00:10:44,081 --> 00:10:46,841 Speaker 1: hasn't had this at some point, but there are definitely 197 00:10:46,881 --> 00:10:49,321 Speaker 1: times where you have sex because you feel like you should. 198 00:10:49,761 --> 00:10:51,921 Speaker 1: Oh shit, we haven't done it for a while. Better 199 00:10:51,961 --> 00:10:52,841 Speaker 1: give him some love. 200 00:10:53,521 --> 00:10:56,641 Speaker 2: You know. This is interesting because this came up in 201 00:10:56,681 --> 00:10:59,841 Speaker 2: this last week a couple of times with different people. 202 00:11:00,121 --> 00:11:04,001 Speaker 2: The same consistency of topic was, I feel like I 203 00:11:04,081 --> 00:11:08,401 Speaker 2: have to it's my job, it's my one of them. 204 00:11:08,441 --> 00:11:10,881 Speaker 2: What was it like? My wife was like my role 205 00:11:10,921 --> 00:11:13,801 Speaker 2: as a wife. Think she used the word judy. Yeah, 206 00:11:13,841 --> 00:11:17,681 Speaker 2: I was like, I am just not wired. 207 00:11:17,561 --> 00:11:19,961 Speaker 1: Like that for them, Like I said earlier, is that 208 00:11:20,121 --> 00:11:22,921 Speaker 1: just switch on? Yeah, all right, I'm up. I'm ready 209 00:11:22,921 --> 00:11:27,521 Speaker 1: to go whereas we need ours. And it's very emotional. 210 00:11:27,921 --> 00:11:31,921 Speaker 1: So if your husband has pissed you off yesterday, you're 211 00:11:31,961 --> 00:11:35,281 Speaker 1: not going to be feeling like it today. Probably, Yeah, 212 00:11:35,401 --> 00:11:37,001 Speaker 1: you may not even feel like it for a few 213 00:11:37,081 --> 00:11:38,761 Speaker 1: days because in the back of your mind he was 214 00:11:38,801 --> 00:11:43,281 Speaker 1: a dickhead. You can't fucking trying to the dishwasher properly. 215 00:11:44,721 --> 00:11:47,401 Speaker 1: Our bodies don't just switch on like that. Yeah, it's 216 00:11:47,521 --> 00:11:48,521 Speaker 1: very mental for us. 217 00:11:48,681 --> 00:11:51,001 Speaker 2: So then I think about like that was another conversation 218 00:11:51,121 --> 00:11:55,441 Speaker 2: around like how men are wired for them their brain 219 00:11:55,841 --> 00:11:59,761 Speaker 2: is they need love and they get the love and 220 00:11:59,801 --> 00:12:03,121 Speaker 2: that I think she used the word safety from the 221 00:12:03,121 --> 00:12:08,241 Speaker 2: physical connection, their bucket full, through the physical connection with 222 00:12:08,361 --> 00:12:12,321 Speaker 2: another human being and that's how and why they then 223 00:12:12,561 --> 00:12:16,361 Speaker 2: feel safe and their levels of testosterone and their manhood 224 00:12:16,401 --> 00:12:19,641 Speaker 2: and their masculine energy everything like that, they go back 225 00:12:19,641 --> 00:12:24,401 Speaker 2: into feeling like level through the physical. Whereas women from 226 00:12:24,521 --> 00:12:30,281 Speaker 2: an emotional standpoint is that they become online when their 227 00:12:30,281 --> 00:12:35,001 Speaker 2: emotional sides are met, so their you know, communication, their connection, 228 00:12:35,801 --> 00:12:38,201 Speaker 2: They're looking for the things that are going to bring 229 00:12:38,241 --> 00:12:41,961 Speaker 2: them online that makes them feel safe. They're feminine energy. 230 00:12:42,121 --> 00:12:45,241 Speaker 2: Does that make sense? And then so when you've got one, 231 00:12:45,481 --> 00:12:49,921 Speaker 2: obviously the female that's not feeling any connection, no communication, 232 00:12:50,641 --> 00:12:54,241 Speaker 2: the emotional side is absolutely depleted and not being met, 233 00:12:54,921 --> 00:12:57,521 Speaker 2: there's an inability to then want to go in and 234 00:12:57,601 --> 00:13:01,321 Speaker 2: try and level up for the masculine in the physical sense, 235 00:13:01,401 --> 00:13:03,921 Speaker 2: because you know both it's almost like that Yin and 236 00:13:04,001 --> 00:13:07,041 Speaker 2: yang kind of thing, both completely out of whack. When 237 00:13:07,081 --> 00:13:09,001 Speaker 2: she was explaining it to me, I sort of went, oh, 238 00:13:09,041 --> 00:13:13,281 Speaker 2: that makes so much sense, Like it makes so much sense. Yeah, 239 00:13:13,281 --> 00:13:16,201 Speaker 2: one hundred percent. When it comes to lo lobido and 240 00:13:16,241 --> 00:13:18,841 Speaker 2: within the age brackets and all of that stuff, I 241 00:13:18,841 --> 00:13:20,441 Speaker 2: don't think that there needs to be age for you 242 00:13:20,481 --> 00:13:23,761 Speaker 2: to have low libido. If you're a female that's not 243 00:13:23,961 --> 00:13:27,601 Speaker 2: having needs met on an emotional level that's going to 244 00:13:27,641 --> 00:13:29,521 Speaker 2: put you into that automatically. 245 00:13:29,761 --> 00:13:32,721 Speaker 1: Do you know what's a great thing for lo libido? Reading? 246 00:13:33,241 --> 00:13:38,601 Speaker 2: So if you're someone remember that it was called when 247 00:13:38,601 --> 00:13:41,801 Speaker 2: he goes up, Ye libido. I was like, fucking no, 248 00:13:41,801 --> 00:13:43,041 Speaker 2: no one's ever going to take that. 249 00:13:43,921 --> 00:13:46,681 Speaker 1: So reading reading, honestly. 250 00:13:46,521 --> 00:13:51,601 Speaker 2: Reading and heartbreak thing that everyone's reading about or watching 251 00:13:51,761 --> 00:13:54,441 Speaker 2: or something. Tell me that you're reading or have seen it. 252 00:13:55,201 --> 00:13:56,961 Speaker 2: What's it called heartbreak? Something? 253 00:13:57,081 --> 00:13:57,561 Speaker 1: Romance? 254 00:13:57,641 --> 00:14:00,561 Speaker 2: It's like it's about two hockey players. My brothers read 255 00:14:00,601 --> 00:14:03,601 Speaker 2: the books. He said, I felt like my whole face 256 00:14:03,641 --> 00:14:05,561 Speaker 2: went bright red. And he was sitting in a public 257 00:14:05,561 --> 00:14:07,481 Speaker 2: place reading the book that he had to pull his 258 00:14:07,521 --> 00:14:09,441 Speaker 2: hat down and try and cover his face whilst reading 259 00:14:09,441 --> 00:14:10,601 Speaker 2: it because it was that raunchy. 260 00:14:10,721 --> 00:14:11,401 Speaker 1: What is the book? 261 00:14:11,761 --> 00:14:14,001 Speaker 2: Oh god, I don't know what it's called. 262 00:14:14,361 --> 00:14:17,441 Speaker 1: Text him and ask him the name of it, because honestly, 263 00:14:18,041 --> 00:14:22,281 Speaker 1: books and this must be the whole female emotional side 264 00:14:22,281 --> 00:14:26,241 Speaker 1: of it. When I'm reading about it, I'm more turned 265 00:14:26,281 --> 00:14:28,921 Speaker 1: on when i'm watching it. But when you're in a 266 00:14:28,961 --> 00:14:31,961 Speaker 1: movie cinema and you're watching stuff like that doesn't necessarily 267 00:14:32,041 --> 00:14:34,921 Speaker 1: I feel like that doesn't like the same effect. 268 00:14:35,241 --> 00:14:37,521 Speaker 2: But because you're creating the scenes in your mind. 269 00:14:37,641 --> 00:14:40,521 Speaker 1: But I can be reading and getting into a really 270 00:14:40,561 --> 00:14:42,801 Speaker 1: good bit of the book and I'm like, oh yeah, 271 00:14:42,921 --> 00:14:44,721 Speaker 1: like this is a really good bit of the book, 272 00:14:45,361 --> 00:14:49,321 Speaker 1: and then something happens and he annoys me and I'm 273 00:14:49,321 --> 00:14:49,761 Speaker 1: turned off. 274 00:14:49,841 --> 00:14:50,201 Speaker 2: Just like that. 275 00:14:50,281 --> 00:14:53,001 Speaker 1: For one minute, I'm reading the book going oh yeah, 276 00:14:53,041 --> 00:14:56,481 Speaker 1: and then I'm like, nah, sorry, mate, missed window. 277 00:14:56,841 --> 00:14:58,001 Speaker 2: The whole thirty seconds. 278 00:14:59,761 --> 00:15:01,881 Speaker 1: It was ten seconds there. I was feeling really good 279 00:15:01,881 --> 00:15:02,721 Speaker 1: and that it's ruant. 280 00:15:02,961 --> 00:15:06,481 Speaker 2: I think the book is heated rather, that's what it's called. 281 00:15:06,641 --> 00:15:08,601 Speaker 2: Everyone's talking about it. He did rivalry. 282 00:15:08,681 --> 00:15:11,921 Speaker 1: I feel like I've read that he did rivalry. I'm embarrassed. 283 00:15:11,921 --> 00:15:17,281 Speaker 1: So let me just have a look at my kind lap. Ah. 284 00:15:17,321 --> 00:15:19,321 Speaker 2: So people think that you're sitting on your phone, you're 285 00:15:19,321 --> 00:15:21,321 Speaker 2: actually just reading smutty books. 286 00:15:21,361 --> 00:15:24,601 Speaker 1: Great. I have an iPad mini that's about one hundred 287 00:15:24,761 --> 00:15:27,321 Speaker 1: years old and it does nothing on it except for 288 00:15:27,401 --> 00:15:31,561 Speaker 1: you Kindle, except has my kind lap. Look at my library, girlfriend, 289 00:15:32,321 --> 00:15:34,521 Speaker 1: You've got smutty books all the way through that, do 290 00:15:34,601 --> 00:15:35,481 Speaker 1: you think? 291 00:15:35,961 --> 00:15:38,601 Speaker 2: So? Yes, you talked about going and doing some work 292 00:15:38,601 --> 00:15:42,281 Speaker 2: on yourself, around your libido, where it comes from and 293 00:15:42,721 --> 00:15:48,761 Speaker 2: maybe through past sexual experiences that you've had has created 294 00:15:48,921 --> 00:15:55,321 Speaker 2: almost lack an unhealthy relationship with sex, having sex and 295 00:15:55,401 --> 00:15:59,201 Speaker 2: being physical with your husband now but also partners in 296 00:15:59,241 --> 00:15:59,801 Speaker 2: the past. 297 00:16:00,081 --> 00:16:03,801 Speaker 1: Yeah, and making it like it's a transaction. Yeah, So like, oh, yeah, 298 00:16:03,921 --> 00:16:06,161 Speaker 1: you are really lovely day, thanks so much for my 299 00:16:06,201 --> 00:16:08,761 Speaker 1: birthday present. This is what you're going to get for it. 300 00:16:08,761 --> 00:16:11,881 Speaker 1: It's almost like it's payment. That sounds like a weird thing, 301 00:16:12,361 --> 00:16:15,121 Speaker 1: but it's almost like, don't get me wrong, Like I 302 00:16:15,241 --> 00:16:18,361 Speaker 1: definitely have times where it is you know more. I'm 303 00:16:18,401 --> 00:16:22,921 Speaker 1: just talking about the low libido sire to relationships. But 304 00:16:22,961 --> 00:16:28,201 Speaker 1: the other thing is confidence in yourself. So when you're 305 00:16:28,241 --> 00:16:33,001 Speaker 1: not feeling great about yourself, you put away or you're 306 00:16:33,041 --> 00:16:35,641 Speaker 1: not feeling like you haven't had your hair done for 307 00:16:35,721 --> 00:16:38,521 Speaker 1: ages or whatever it might be. When you're not feeling 308 00:16:38,561 --> 00:16:41,721 Speaker 1: great about yourself, I can guarantee you're not going to 309 00:16:41,761 --> 00:16:44,401 Speaker 1: feel like you're in the mood when you're feeling great 310 00:16:44,401 --> 00:16:47,601 Speaker 1: about yourself. Well, speaking for myself, when I've been to 311 00:16:47,681 --> 00:16:51,601 Speaker 1: the gym, we're in better shape and my nails look nice, 312 00:16:51,761 --> 00:16:53,881 Speaker 1: like little things that just I. 313 00:16:53,801 --> 00:16:55,921 Speaker 2: Mean, how many times have you been right in the 314 00:16:55,961 --> 00:16:57,961 Speaker 2: middle of the act and looked down and thought, fuck 315 00:16:58,041 --> 00:16:59,241 Speaker 2: my tone, nails look great. 316 00:17:04,201 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: No, but I'm talking you about to get in the 317 00:17:07,161 --> 00:17:10,201 Speaker 1: mood in the first place, feeling your body. 318 00:17:10,681 --> 00:17:12,681 Speaker 2: But if we strip back all of that, right, don't 319 00:17:12,721 --> 00:17:15,281 Speaker 2: overcomplicate it. But everything that you have just hit the 320 00:17:15,801 --> 00:17:17,761 Speaker 2: nail on the head with, what does it come back to? 321 00:17:18,201 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: It comes back you and not about them. 322 00:17:20,521 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it also comes back to where you are hormonally, 323 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,321 Speaker 2: because if you're moving your body, you've got good hormones 324 00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:30,161 Speaker 2: running through your body. You've got all the good feels 325 00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:33,041 Speaker 2: like that we talk about. Right, if you're moving your body, 326 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,561 Speaker 2: you've got the spike. There's so much to do with 327 00:17:37,241 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 2: just you and being that sort of best version of yourself. 328 00:17:41,241 --> 00:17:43,521 Speaker 2: I say best version of yourself because it really does 329 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 2: lead you down so many paths that come back to 330 00:17:47,561 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 2: the basic you know pillars of life, which is you 331 00:17:51,721 --> 00:17:55,201 Speaker 2: know your health and then your mental health and movement 332 00:17:55,321 --> 00:17:59,801 Speaker 2: and hydration and food and sleep and those key pillars 333 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:04,801 Speaker 2: that make up your body hormonally and physically and emotionally. 334 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,721 Speaker 2: That then you go, I'm. 335 00:18:06,561 --> 00:18:08,801 Speaker 1: Feeling good, feeling good. 336 00:18:09,120 --> 00:18:12,161 Speaker 2: I want to do this. I'm choosing to do this. 337 00:18:12,761 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot in self talk when it 338 00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 2: comes to women because instead of going I better do 339 00:18:18,681 --> 00:18:21,521 Speaker 2: this for him, it is I want to do this 340 00:18:21,561 --> 00:18:25,321 Speaker 2: for me. That whole self talk of flipping the negative 341 00:18:25,360 --> 00:18:28,161 Speaker 2: to the positive, instead of going like down that track 342 00:18:28,241 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 2: or going like, oh, I better do it for him, Like, no, 343 00:18:32,001 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 2: I'm doing it for me. I'm a horny bitch, you 344 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,561 Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like whatever your self talk is, Like, 345 00:18:36,681 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 2: I say that because my self talk is just next level. 346 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,001 Speaker 2: It's when I need to go to the gym. I'm like, 347 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:46,001 Speaker 2: get up, you lazy bitch. This self talk needs to 348 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,241 Speaker 2: change in order for your brain to flip from seeing 349 00:18:49,281 --> 00:18:53,241 Speaker 2: the sexual experiences not a negative, but sometimes it feels 350 00:18:53,241 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 2: like a chore. Yeah, So how do you flip a 351 00:18:56,001 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 2: chore from feeling like a chore. You have to flip 352 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,081 Speaker 2: it from being a negative to a positive. Yeah, Oh 353 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:05,281 Speaker 2: my god, I love doing the dishwasher. This is so amazing. 354 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:08,441 Speaker 2: I hate doing the dishwasher. I hate taking the bins out. 355 00:19:08,481 --> 00:19:10,681 Speaker 2: But then it's sort of like, I'm the same if 356 00:19:10,681 --> 00:19:13,281 Speaker 2: someone comes knocking at my door at nine pm at night, 357 00:19:13,441 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 2: Katie see you later, Like you will not get the 358 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 2: best version of me. I'm not a kind human at 359 00:19:19,201 --> 00:19:22,121 Speaker 2: nine pm at night. But then you know there's other 360 00:19:22,201 --> 00:19:24,761 Speaker 2: times where you will flip it and go, yeah, maybe 361 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 2: like mornings would be better minus the dirty breath, or 362 00:19:28,801 --> 00:19:32,041 Speaker 2: like kids scrambling all over you, and you know all 363 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,921 Speaker 2: of the other things that stack up odds against it. 364 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,801 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think there's so much in it. But 365 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: I feel like it just comes back to that part 366 00:19:40,120 --> 00:19:41,561 Speaker 2: of you and what you want to do. 367 00:19:42,001 --> 00:19:46,721 Speaker 1: I heard someone talking about scheduling it in, so when 368 00:19:46,721 --> 00:19:49,321 Speaker 1: we talk about being super busy and we're all busy, 369 00:19:49,761 --> 00:19:52,561 Speaker 1: and someone said, it's really good to schedule it in. Now, 370 00:19:52,801 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: my husband today is like, I don't want it planned. 371 00:19:56,801 --> 00:20:00,121 Speaker 1: It needs to be spontaneous. But a lot of people 372 00:20:00,241 --> 00:20:03,041 Speaker 1: say for women, it's a good thing to schedule it in. 373 00:20:03,241 --> 00:20:06,921 Speaker 1: You're like, oh, Tuesday night, I'm gonna have a nice shower, 374 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,481 Speaker 1: put nice moisturizer on, like and make it a whole 375 00:20:10,561 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: process for yourself first. Yeah, because you know they'll just 376 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: like flick of a switch. Yeah, don't worry about that. 377 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:20,321 Speaker 1: They don't worry about that. Worry about you do the 378 00:20:20,360 --> 00:20:23,561 Speaker 1: things you need to do and not have anything else 379 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: scheduled in. I'm not missing out on something I've recorded 380 00:20:28,201 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: my show. 381 00:20:31,561 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: I'm unsure where the scheduling would work for me, Like, 382 00:20:34,721 --> 00:20:38,681 Speaker 2: i have a schedule that runs from about five am 383 00:20:38,721 --> 00:20:41,441 Speaker 2: through till about nine pm, So to think that I've 384 00:20:41,481 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 2: got anything on after that, I'd be like, get fucked. 385 00:20:46,481 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 2: I give a fuck up. It's Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. My 386 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 2: schedule is tight. Another hot topic that is, you know, 387 00:20:58,281 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: to do with libido is the whole idea about where 388 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 2: your first experience come from with sex or with to 389 00:21:07,481 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 2: do with sex. Right, do you think that there is 390 00:21:10,321 --> 00:21:16,521 Speaker 2: any pressure nowadays still within our generation of feeling pressure 391 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 2: to perform from things like porn or online or I mean, like, 392 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: what else are we up against? We're against only fans, 393 00:21:25,481 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 2: And I think it's still the case. I think the 394 00:21:27,201 --> 00:21:30,161 Speaker 2: statistics are quite high. Without going all serious, it's still 395 00:21:30,241 --> 00:21:34,201 Speaker 2: quite high that they say that even adolescents now learn 396 00:21:34,681 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 2: their first experiences, like to learn about or see the 397 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,321 Speaker 2: act is through porn, and porn is for me, it's 398 00:21:44,321 --> 00:21:47,001 Speaker 2: not real, it's not real life. There's no way that 399 00:21:47,041 --> 00:21:48,761 Speaker 2: sex has ever looked like that. No. 400 00:21:49,201 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: I think probably it used to more than it does now, 401 00:21:53,321 --> 00:21:58,241 Speaker 1: because I think most men also realize now that that's 402 00:21:58,281 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: not real life, that's not how girls actually are. Yeah, 403 00:22:03,561 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: but that isn't it. 404 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 2: The funniest part is like now I think that with 405 00:22:06,801 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 2: porn so easily accessible, if you haven't got porn, you 406 00:22:11,201 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 2: could go to Instagram nowadays and still go to someone's 407 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,601 Speaker 2: feed and get what you need from. 408 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,801 Speaker 1: It, not everyone's I feel a bit sad with porn, 409 00:22:18,961 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: which because I'm easily accessible, but I also just feel 410 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,561 Speaker 1: like those girls are not enjoying what they're doing. 411 00:22:25,681 --> 00:22:28,161 Speaker 2: No, but what the young boys they're learning from it. 412 00:22:28,281 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, at least with things like OnlyFans, there's an element 413 00:22:32,281 --> 00:22:35,241 Speaker 1: of they're doing what they want. No one's telling them. 414 00:22:35,281 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: There's no guy behind a camera being all weird and 415 00:22:38,441 --> 00:22:42,521 Speaker 1: perfectly going okay, your hand do this. 416 00:22:43,201 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: S No. But I feel for like these guys that 417 00:22:46,321 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 2: are like nowadays learning about sexist and being exposed to 418 00:22:50,961 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 2: even just the practice of sex online, like through porn 419 00:22:54,041 --> 00:22:55,761 Speaker 2: or like whatever it is that they're seeing, it is 420 00:22:55,801 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 2: so much earlier. So these young guys are like going 421 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,121 Speaker 2: in and thinking, oh, that's what they want, and then 422 00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: the first experience that they have with girl, they're like 423 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 2: pulling their hair or slapping their eyes, and then the 424 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,641 Speaker 2: girls like, you can't do that, that's a salt, and 425 00:23:07,721 --> 00:23:12,961 Speaker 2: like there's so many unclear, mixed messages that these guys 426 00:23:12,961 --> 00:23:17,241 Speaker 2: are learning. It's just such like a murky water unclear situation. 427 00:23:17,441 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 2: You've got two girls. I've got two girls, and you 428 00:23:20,441 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: think about what their experience of going into then you 429 00:23:23,521 --> 00:23:25,521 Speaker 2: know that next stage of life will be like. 430 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,961 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there was a lot that we put 431 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: up with back then that they wouldn't put up with. 432 00:23:31,281 --> 00:23:31,481 Speaker 2: Now. 433 00:23:31,921 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: You can't just hit someone on the bum in the 434 00:23:34,001 --> 00:23:36,761 Speaker 1: night club anymore, Like that's not allowed. You can't just 435 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: like grab, you know, pinch a boob or like some 436 00:23:39,801 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: of the things that happened when we were younger. I 437 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,721 Speaker 1: remember being at work. I used to do the traffic 438 00:23:45,801 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: from a like little plane for a radio station, so 439 00:23:49,241 --> 00:23:52,761 Speaker 1: you do the traffic report basically, yeah, and the pilot 440 00:23:53,001 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: would sit next to me and he would put his 441 00:23:55,921 --> 00:23:58,721 Speaker 1: hand on my lap and like rub the at the 442 00:23:58,801 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: top of my legs. How old were you? I was 443 00:24:01,681 --> 00:24:04,761 Speaker 1: like nineteen. I used to call him Purby Simon, like 444 00:24:04,801 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: it was thing everyone knew, Pervy Simon. Why did we 445 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: feel like this is not normal? I said to my girls, 446 00:24:13,041 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: who were seventeen. I told them about it, and they went, 447 00:24:16,681 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: what did you say, mom? Like they were like shocked. Ye, 448 00:24:20,281 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: what did you say, mom? I went, well, I didn't 449 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,761 Speaker 1: say anything because I didn't want to be rude because 450 00:24:25,761 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 1: that was back there. That's definitely got something to do 451 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:34,241 Speaker 1: with our generation nowadays. That and it probably still was then, 452 00:24:34,521 --> 00:24:37,281 Speaker 1: but you kind of just let things Slider feel like 453 00:24:37,921 --> 00:24:40,321 Speaker 1: he defied for sexual. 454 00:24:40,041 --> 00:24:42,761 Speaker 2: Assault one you have charges against him. 455 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 456 00:24:43,481 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: When I first started flying, and you've got all different 457 00:24:47,561 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 2: types of like you know, captains and first officers and 458 00:24:51,201 --> 00:24:54,041 Speaker 2: you're the new girl and you know, oh, come sit 459 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,241 Speaker 2: up in the cockpit. I remember flying into it was 460 00:24:57,241 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: one of my first flights into Paris, and it happened 461 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: to be at like six in the morning, so the 462 00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 2: sun is rising. The route that we were taking, it 463 00:25:05,521 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 2: was coming in and around the Eiffel Tower and then 464 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,001 Speaker 2: we'll come back. If you were talking about anything, that 465 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: was like just classically picturesque, like you'd never seen anything 466 00:25:13,801 --> 00:25:15,801 Speaker 2: like it. Here I am sitting in the cockpit, this 467 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,281 Speaker 2: captain sitting there and like, oh, I hope you're enjoying 468 00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 2: you know, like the sigh, touch on the knee and 469 00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 2: the and you're like at that time, I'm the same 470 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:25,561 Speaker 2: as you. I just go like fuck, I hope he 471 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 2: doesn't expect anything after this, like straight away, you know, 472 00:25:29,481 --> 00:25:31,961 Speaker 2: you have that moment you're like, oh no, So then 473 00:25:32,041 --> 00:25:34,281 Speaker 2: I'd get off the aircraft as fast as I could, 474 00:25:34,321 --> 00:25:36,801 Speaker 2: and like, off the bus as fast I could disperse 475 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 2: to rooms without being seen which room you're going to? 476 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: Ah. 477 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,721 Speaker 2: So many times like that, but we just I guess 478 00:25:44,761 --> 00:25:45,961 Speaker 2: in our generation, we're. 479 00:25:45,761 --> 00:25:49,041 Speaker 1: Like, oh, talking about pushing boundaries like this has just 480 00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: reminded me of when I was in noosirt rage the 481 00:25:53,041 --> 00:26:00,721 Speaker 1: randiest bush turkey. Honestly, Ah, this male bush turkey was 482 00:26:01,001 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: going full guns at the female. The female was jumping 483 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,801 Speaker 1: from tree to tree. She was screaming. I watched him 484 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: so aggressive running across the arena. How they run. I'm like, dude, 485 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 1: you can fly. He's running, running like he's on such 486 00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:20,761 Speaker 1: a mission. Honestly, I have never seen anything like that. 487 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: I felt so sorry for this female bush turkey. She 488 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: was just like screeching. She was so distressed on holidays, 489 00:26:27,201 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: She's I don't feel like it today. I stopped at 490 00:26:32,921 --> 00:26:37,481 Speaker 1: one moment. I was like, come to me, I'll protect you. 491 00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:40,561 Speaker 1: The fucking randy bush taky. 492 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,881 Speaker 2: He's going to be up for sucking assault soon. That 493 00:26:44,521 --> 00:26:45,281 Speaker 2: is going to be up for. 494 00:26:46,041 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: He has been canceled