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Speaker 1: Gooday, and welcome back to the official Super Coach podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's your boy, DOSSI here. We're talking breakouts and burn

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Speaker 1: men on this show, ripping through some players we think

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Speaker 1: will have a big breakout year and maybe one that

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Speaker 1: could let you down in your starting team. A reminder

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Speaker 1: everything throughout the season including break evens, score projections, and

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Speaker 1: the rest. Let's get into it though. I'm here with

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Speaker 1: a full cohort of super Coach experts, including the Phantoms Lairs,

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Speaker 1: very own Simeon and Thomas Wilson, Code Sports AFL reporter.

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Speaker 1: How are you, sim We' good, Dossie.

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Speaker 2: How are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm going well, mate, going very well. January. Have you

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Speaker 1: have you had a play with Team pickers, sim surely

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Speaker 1: you're up to about your fifth version five names. No,

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Speaker 1: actually fully picked the team poor form, poor form from

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Speaker 1: sim Hopefully, hopefully we can say something different for Patch

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Speaker 1: over in Melbourne, joining us from the Breaking Even podcast,

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Speaker 1: How are you Patch back?

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Speaker 3: Very keen to get stuck in, keen to round about

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Speaker 3: some burnman, and I guess there's other things we're doing

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Speaker 3: on this pod. I'm not quite across them, but I've

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Speaker 3: got rant ready to go. So happy to be.

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Speaker 1: Here, beautiful. I mean, breakouts are my favorite part of

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Speaker 1: every season. So keen to spit some fire on this

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Speaker 1: episode and someone else who's ready to spit some fire

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Speaker 1: in the preseason, Ol Peyton, how are you going?

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Speaker 4: I'm going great? Thank you, Dossie. I have had plenty

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Speaker 4: of time to play around with a team picker. I

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Speaker 4: did put a team out maybe the day after it opened,

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Speaker 4: and it's fair to see my team looks very different

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Speaker 4: now than what it did then. So, as you say,

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Speaker 4: always a really fun time of year to play around

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Speaker 4: with some of these guys who you know, in best

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Speaker 4: case scenarios, we could have a whole team, you know,

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Speaker 4: three four hundred thousand dollar guys who will end up

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Speaker 4: being one hundred and five hundred and ten scoring premates.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want I want your opinion just quickly before

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Speaker 1: we get into breakouts as well. When we look at breakouts,

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Speaker 1: these are the sort of the players that could make

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Speaker 1: or break your season in many ways, they're looking for

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Speaker 1: a person to take a big step up. But in general,

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Speaker 1: on the players that we will discuss on the show

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Speaker 1: coming forward, what are the sort of things that you

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Speaker 1: would look for for a player if you're looking for

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Speaker 1: a breakout season coming up in the next year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, the guys I think that you know we're

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Speaker 4: going to be talking about today, are you sort of

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Speaker 4: generally maybe third, second, third, fourth, fifth year even you know,

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Speaker 4: we have seen some late breakouts, but around that time

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Speaker 4: in their career where they're just sort of coming into

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Speaker 4: I'd be looking for is the role. So you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm sure someone will mentioned Harvey Langford today, but that's

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Speaker 4: you know, the obvious kind of thing where you've got

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Speaker 4: a guy who's come in, showed a bit early on,

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Speaker 4: suddenly get a better role where he's scoring can really spike.

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Speaker 4: So you know, I think whether it's tarp back or

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Speaker 4: roles that we're looking for in super Coach, and then

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Speaker 4: you're just natural progression. It's an interesting one this year,

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Speaker 4: I think, because there's a lot of talk around some

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Speaker 4: older guys who are you know, there's some really good

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Speaker 4: prices out there, which I'm sure we'll get to. Another shows,

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Speaker 4: you know, your Adam Chulaw's, Darcy Perish, guys like this

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Speaker 4: is their room. You know, sometimes it's easier to pick

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Speaker 4: someone like that who even though you know there's plenty

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Speaker 4: seen them do it before. You feel a little bit

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Speaker 4: more secure picking them than someone who maybe hasn't ever

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Speaker 4: done it before. But these can be the ones that

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I have gone. I've provided you guys with

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Speaker 1: all a bunch of different definitions because I wanted to

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Speaker 1: go through three types of different breakouts, because I do

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Speaker 1: think that we throw the word breakout a little bit

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Speaker 1: to sort of separate them into different types of breakouts

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Speaker 1: I will define them as we go. This is just

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Speaker 1: a player who's never made the leap before, never sort

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Speaker 1: eighty or anything like that. Someone that is priced cheaper

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Speaker 1: Someone you can think can really push twenty plus points average,

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Speaker 1: in that breakout category, not of Matthaeus Philippoo kind of guy,

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Speaker 1: who have you got for us as the OG breakout?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? No, the risk definitely is part of the fun

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Speaker 4: when it comes to these sort of picks. But if

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Speaker 4: you can keep them maybe under that four hundred K range,

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Speaker 4: then maybe they don't have to be a season long keeper.

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Speaker 4: But you can get you know, half a season out

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Speaker 4: of a make keep of money, enjoy the ride, but

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Speaker 4: gonna say, Dan Curtin at the Crow's averaged seventy two

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Speaker 4: point five last year over the whole season, So that's

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Speaker 4: what he's priced two hundred and ninety two thousand years

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Speaker 4: But can he jump this year from you know, seventy

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Speaker 4: what you do with him after that. But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 4: is Dan Curtin's role going to be. Obviously we'll see

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Speaker 4: a bit of this over the preseason, but the finals

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Speaker 4: get Christian Petrarca didn't happen. So is Curtin the I

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Speaker 4: based on the just photos we've seen coming out of

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Speaker 4: preseason training, he looks absolutely enormous, which we do love

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Speaker 4: that burning up the track in preseason. And I'll just

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Speaker 4: leave it with the quote from a high performance manager

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Speaker 4: in mckewan. How does he pronounce it? But he quote

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Speaker 4: was seeing Dan Curtin, who is incredible in every aspect

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Speaker 4: of what he's able to do athletically. He was one

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Speaker 4: of the guys who's really standing out to him early

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Speaker 4: a pod you mid price risky type pick. But sim

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Speaker 4: where do you think he actually plays this year?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Inside midfield?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: Playing just in terms of size and strength and being

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Speaker 3: vibes for me. Sorry, sim didn't mean to cut you. Well.

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Speaker 2: Good Now he's playing inside. Murray Davis, the director of coaching,

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Speaker 2: last week he said the plan is to get down

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Speaker 2: turned it into the midfield more around stoppages. Yeah, he

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Speaker 2: second the semi final against Hawthorne. So now he's going

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Speaker 2: to be one of the players they're going to look

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Speaker 2: at to. I guess Bridge the gap of the midfields

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Speaker 2: by Collinwood and Hawthorne. I think he's going to Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think he's don't have a lot of time in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, awesome stuff, Simmer. I know every time you come

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Speaker 1: back from Crow's training, you get a question from me

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Speaker 1: about how is Dan looking. He's look, that's the big

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Speaker 1: looking because I need to know as well. I love

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Speaker 1: that pick. Well, let's talk to you five names. Who

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Speaker 1: is your OG breakout pick? All right?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean one thing you always want to

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Speaker 2: think this guy hasn't have a massive opportunity in front

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Speaker 2: of him. Harvey Langford, Melbourne three eighty four thousand, mid

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Speaker 2: to play. Yep, he has to. He's going to get

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Speaker 2: more inside time. You know, he can store pretty well

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Speaker 2: what we've seen when he does get you know, fairbit

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Speaker 2: He's a real He's just a breakout candidate. Easy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, opportunity, as he said, playing a bit of the wing,

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Speaker 1: bit of sort of all over the spot, all over

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Speaker 1: the place last year, hopefully gets that inside role. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is. It is that these are these are the risky,

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Speaker 1: the risky picks until we see it in pre season.

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Speaker 1: But if he's locked in pre season, I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of coaches will be very interested in Harvey Langford

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Speaker 1: Patch who's your player that you think will be a

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Speaker 1: classic breakout candidate.

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Speaker 3: I think looking through the list and looking through how

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Speaker 3: you defined it, there was one guy that immediately leapt

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Speaker 3: out as this category was designed for him. But I'll

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Speaker 3: leave him to you, I'll be very polite and leave.

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Speaker 1: Him, honestly, take him. I've got someone else.

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Speaker 3: You've got someone else you don't have. Harley Reed just

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Speaker 3: locked in the gun and ready to go go for it.

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Speaker 1: Patch. I've spoke about him too much already.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, we know what Harley Rei can do.

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Speaker 3: We know, you know, the potential is there. You know

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Speaker 3: came up with difficulty last year. You'd think he's going

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Speaker 3: to learn a heap from that. Should have more experience

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Speaker 3: around him, you know, Elliot yo. You know, we know

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Speaker 3: his injury history. But if he's fit and firing and

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Speaker 3: playing through that team, I think that gives him a boost.

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Speaker 3: I've got a few other younger players around him now,

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Speaker 3: Will Dursm's over there, and they're decent mates, So I

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Speaker 3: think he's a really good shout. Otherwise, I'm keeping a

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Speaker 3: very close eye on Josh Rochelley at the Crows. I

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Speaker 3: don't know. I think they want to get him in

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Speaker 3: the midfield, but I don't know how they cover themselves

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Speaker 3: up forward. Yes, seem like if they're choosing between, you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd say that I Reckon. They've swapping around a bit.

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Speaker 1: There awesome insights there. I'm going to go with a

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Speaker 3: So I mean you're not picking up three, so surely, yeah,

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Speaker 1: one that we should probably keep on our radars regardless

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Speaker 3: Doesn't have to knocked over my goat three from last

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Speaker 1: Though, So.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think he's ready to take the mantle

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Speaker 4: He's the one they've invested in Shy.

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Speaker 1: I've got my though on an og type of breakout

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Speaker 1: I've got is blue chip bound. Now I will throw

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Speaker 3: It'll be de surprised to anyone that the Nuffle arm

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Speaker 3: I've spoken about him till the cows come home, even

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Speaker 3: though sim probably got him earlier, mentioned him earlier on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm Prettynnoyd Patch because yeah, that was my player,

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Speaker 1: I think that he really does elevate his game so well,

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Speaker 1: Al, do we have a fourth Trent Rivers pick here

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Speaker 4: Well, I means somewhere else. I probably won't mention him

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Speaker 4: pick him in classic Let's let's wait and see. I

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Speaker 4: mean the cbas I did look up some stats on that.

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Speaker 4: They didn't really help at all because he had eighty

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a very unique pick. Yeah, to throw in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't name. You know, it's different. Stu

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Speaker 2: one to maybe see you know what's going on locking out?

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Speaker 2: I know you got I know, you got Will Astroft,

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Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, another another player hadn't really considered

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Speaker 1: He's always been a huge Wardlaw truther. He's probably going

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Speaker 1: just his needs to get his body right, he needs

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00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,040
Speaker 1: to be able to stay on the park. He plays

431
00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,280
Speaker 1: pretty low time on ground given the tank presumably, but

432
00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,760
Speaker 1: in his last four games last year, finally came back,

433
00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,399
Speaker 1: had some concussion concerns and stuff earlier in the season,

434
00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,680
Speaker 1: came back to average one hundred and his final four

435
00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,479
Speaker 1: games of the season playing a decent amount of midfield

436
00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,600
Speaker 1: time and staying in the park. So for me, George

437
00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,720
Speaker 1: Wardlock could be a huge candidate to go into the

438
00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,000
Speaker 1: premium territory if he does get his body right and

439
00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,639
Speaker 1: have a full pre season under his belt.

440
00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,840
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, I do like that again. Yeah, like

441
00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,159
Speaker 4: you say, Phantom Special from I think he's had him

442
00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,760
Speaker 4: in his breakouts for the last two or three seasons.

443
00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,200
Speaker 4: He'll probably have him again this year. But yeah, again,

444
00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,080
Speaker 4: we talk about winning your own footy is great for

445
00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,840
Speaker 4: super coach, and he can definitely do that. It's just

446
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,800
Speaker 4: whether he can stay on the park. The other one

447
00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,080
Speaker 4: that I did want to just throw it quickly because

448
00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 4: I haven't heard him talk about really at all this season.

449
00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 4: I don't think he technically fits his category because he

450
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,240
Speaker 4: really did break out last year, but could go to

451
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,440
Speaker 4: another level I think this year. And sort of surprising

452
00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,760
Speaker 4: that just hearing nobody talking about him considering what he

453
00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,720
Speaker 4: did and that is Sam Darcy, and he has a

454
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,479
Speaker 4: pretty awkward draw and early by with the Dogs, but

455
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,359
Speaker 4: he's priced at ninety five. That includes an injury game

456
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,520
Speaker 4: where he only scored sixteen. You take that out automatically,

457
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,960
Speaker 4: he's already eight hundred. You know, how can he go

458
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 4: in games? Last year he had one hundred and forty

459
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,640
Speaker 4: one hundred and forty, four hundred and fifty, So yeah,

460
00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,720
Speaker 4: sky's a limit. I think he'd be a massive pod

461
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 4: love him as a player. You know, he's been really

462
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 4: fun to own a super coach as well. So yeah,

463
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 4: he's going to be probably hard to start giving the

464
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 4: Dogs draw, but yeah, definitely one that I'll probably want

465
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Speaker 4: to try and get it some stage.

466
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think maybe it's because he left a sour

467
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 1: taste in many coaches mouse last year. They thought he

468
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,679
Speaker 1: was going to come home like a steam chain, and

469
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 1: then many people picked him up cheap after the knee injury,

470
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 1: and then he came back and probably didn't deliver to

471
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Speaker 1: the heights that many people were. But like you're saying,

472
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,439
Speaker 1: his potential to go massive is yeah, unbelievable. The WEMBI

473
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 1: of the AFL as many.

474
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Speaker 2: People, I think that's Harry ram mate.

475
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, your boy port Adelaide. Lad, I'm on

476
00:20:58,840 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 1: that fad.

477
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Speaker 2: Actually, I was gonna say, for some reason, what's today?

478
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 2: It's three forty eight SA time on eleventh of jan

479
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 2: two other twenty seats. For some reason, I think Harry

480
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 2: Ramp would have a year for Paul can maybe get games.

481
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 2: I don't know. It was this weird feel enough to

482
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 2: see him pre season and train on Friday, like he's

483
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 2: grown a toy five, He's drown three seminaries over summer.

484
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 2: He's looking like I won't be surprised of his playing games.

485
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Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, you heard it here first on the Official

486
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Speaker 1: Super Coach podcast. Harry ram also nicknamed Wemby, which is

487
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,679
Speaker 1: where it got from. I think his teammates call him Wemby.

488
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,159
Speaker 1: So that's a huge one there. Seim loved that for

489
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 1: Little Pot as well. But yeah, Sam, does he all right? Ol?

490
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: Nobody's really sort of talking about him at this point

491
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 1: of year, so it'd be interesting to see how that

492
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Speaker 1: plays out.

493
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Speaker 4: Now.

494
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,360
Speaker 1: The final breakout category we've got here is black bookers. Now,

495
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: this is just a plan no one is talking about.

496
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: That might be the guy that sim just dropped on

497
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Speaker 1: the body as.

498
00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:58,640
Speaker 2: Well, I've got another one.

499
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Speaker 1: Actually, I've got a guy that nobody's talking about that

500
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 1: you've got a close on preseason. It might be just

501
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 1: your guy that you really have a lot of faith in. Again,

502
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 1: not these rookie sort of players, but these could be

503
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 1: in that sort of rookie price category a little bit,

504
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 1: but just that nobody's talking about and could be a

505
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: little sneaky option come around one. So we'll throw to

506
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Speaker 1: you Patch first. Who have you got away in your

507
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: little black book there for a potential breakout season?

508
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 3: So I've got another d in this category. There's been

509
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 3: a lot of chat about like Ford rookies and how

510
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 3: you know you've got Todd Marshall and you know, Logan

511
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 3: McDonald and Maxiking and a bunch of these guys who

512
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 3: are in that like one fifty plus price range who

513
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 3: you know, will be interesting to see how many of

514
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 3: them end up in our side. But at the other

515
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 3: end of the ground one five K. I am locked

516
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 3: into this guy at this stage and until I see

517
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 3: evidence that he's not going to be their best twenty three,

518
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 3: I think he's in Monty Forum. Andy Moni's Wakefield did

519
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 3: an acl the end of twenty twenty four, so we

520
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 3: didn't see him at all last year. He played the

521
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 3: I think it was six games in twenty twenty four

522
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 3: before injuring himself. Didn't set the world on fire. He

523
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 3: was okay, kind of not really playing a massive distributor

524
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 3: role or really getting a lot of the pill. But

525
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 3: with at that price, with Judd mcv gorne, we've spoken

526
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 3: about Trent Rivers possibly moving into the midfield. Salem might

527
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 3: move out if he can get some pill. At one

528
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 3: forty five K. He's locked in and.

529
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Speaker 1: Jake bows out for like six months or something, isn't it.

530
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 1: It's a long injury.

531
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and his VFL numbers were quite good from memory,

532
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 3: which I don't have them in front of me. I

533
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 3: don't have them written down anywhere, but I remember looking

534
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 3: at his VFL numbers going, they if they're going to

535
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,239
Speaker 3: give him the pill, they seem to trust me at

536
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 3: VFL level. There's a chance that then happens at AFL level.

537
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 3: So he's he's the guy that I'm locked away on.

538
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 3: I put him.

539
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: In huge board.

540
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

541
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: To Our's point, I just quickly looked it up. So

542
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: I'm telling Porky's there, but Bowie isn't isn't available for

543
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 1: expecting to be available for the first twelve rounds of

544
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. And he was like their main distributor

545
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 1: back there last year. Step questions on Stephen May as well.

546
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: He takes a lot of kickings out huge like that

547
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 1: one there thatch ol hoo, have you got for us

548
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 1: away tucked away in your little black book. They're ready

549
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 1: for a breakout this year.

550
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 4: What I did warn here before we came on here

551
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 4: to queue up the knough alarm. And this is not

552
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,679
Speaker 4: a guy that you know, people obviously will have heard

553
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 4: of him, but I don't think too many people will

554
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 4: be looking at starting him in Super coach this year.

555
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 4: And then is Semi Lawler at the Tigers. He's priced

556
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 4: at two hundred and ninety eight thousand, which is at

557
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 4: a fifty five average. You know, he played eleven games

558
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 4: last year, obviously had a few injury problems. He scored

559
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 4: four in his last game against the cat So obviously, yeah,

560
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 4: I would have heard his price and stuff a little bit.

561
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 4: But it's just, you know, how far can he go

562
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 4: in year two? The stuff coming out of Richmond pre season,

563
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 4: he just looks absolutely ripped and watching some talk about

564
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 4: enough of arm stuff. Watching a couple of replays of

565
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 4: particularly that Round one game against Carlton last year, just

566
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 4: some of the stuff that he did with it, just

567
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 4: setting up teammates for you know, putting them into positions

568
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 4: to score, and he's yeah, I think they've got someone

569
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 4: really special there if he can keep his hamstrings together.

570
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,479
Speaker 4: He did also score one hundred and twelve against Brisbane,

571
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 4: was his best score last year, so he's doing that

572
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 4: against some pretty handy opposition. I'm not one hundred percent

573
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 4: sure you know what the midfield time will be with him,

574
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 4: but I think they will try and get him in

575
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 4: there more if his body's up for it. So yeah,

576
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 4: I love him as a player. Would yeah, he'd be

577
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 4: a really fun pick. Obviously I'm completely biased. The only

578
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 4: have a little tick I'll put in his column is

579
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 4: that when the fixture came out, one of the first

580
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 4: things we look for is which teams have that standalone

581
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 4: by and this year it's Richmond and GWS, which is

582
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 4: probably not the most friendly ones for super Coach. Obviously,

583
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 4: the Giants we like, but they have an early buy

584
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 4: as well. Richmond doesn't, so there's only you know, I

585
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 4: don't know how many Richman players we're going to be

586
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 4: looking for. Richmond Primos is not Abraham, but might be

587
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 4: another little reason you could sort of scrill him away.

588
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 4: And yeah, he's got probably the friendly drawer of anyone

589
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 4: in the Cup.

590
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 3: I'm proud he's got any number he does.

591
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 4: Yes, they have been putting that out on the socials. Yes, okay,

592
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 4: I think we can count that as evidence, can we.

593
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? Look, yeah, that I love. As a proud keeper

594
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: league owner of Sam Lawler, I'm very happy to hear

595
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: that out. And yeah, I think that's that's the perfect

596
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: sort of second year player where you know, he's he's

597
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: shown great signs, but not everything kind of went his way.

598
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: Still could have an improved role this year to your point,

599
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 1: playing midfield, and yeah, is that a sort of risky

600
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: ish price point. But also he was drafted, you know,

601
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: top for a reason. He's an absolute gun, so.

602
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 4: He's probably cheap enough that like he doesn't have to

603
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 4: be a keeper. He could average eighty for you know,

604
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 4: eight weeks and make ap of money.

605
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, well.

606
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 4: I love him obviously.

607
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan to love that pick. All right,

608
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: sim You've got one more black book for us, I believe.

609
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just shout out as you count I want

610
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: this is my DIY, but it's another guy. I keep

611
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: a good eye Joe Cully and Melbourne. He might I

612
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: saw something that he might be playing like they might

613
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,719
Speaker 2: try and have him as like a little back up

614
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: ruck to Maxie what somebody. I don't know. Maybe maybe

615
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 2: i'd like hallucinated it or like a fever dream or something,

616
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: but I'm pretty sure.

617
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: Like he's something.

618
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: He's tall enough so like you know, like you can

619
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: give mats to chop out on the ground, so that's

620
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: why he's cheap. And he might actually you know, big

621
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: body midfields. We love that this is a guy that

622
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: the other guys and you have to see what's going

623
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: on with his role. But I think one day this

624
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 2: guy could be one of like the premiere midfielders in

625
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 2: the competition. Oliver dem On. I think if he ever

626
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 2: get like I think he's at some point he's going

627
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: to get. I think he'll get inside time at some point.

628
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's gonna be this year. I

629
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: don't that's next year. I think that's going to be

630
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 2: his development. Chris Scott's kind of said that, but he

631
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: could be absolute gone super coach story if if he

632
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 2: got on the inside, can run all day, gets goals,

633
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,719
Speaker 2: can get the ball. Yeah, I love a Dempsey.

634
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: He could just be interesting if they ever moved him

635
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: away from that wing, given how dominant he is on

636
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: that position. But yeah, as a.

637
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 2: Thing, I think christ has said like his progression will

638
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 2: be at some point well play more insight, but I

639
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 2: don't know when it's going to be. But he's a giant.

640
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 2: I'm always I'm watching.

641
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got a player from Carlton actually, so I

642
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: was surprised to look at some of these numbers and

643
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: very impressed with what I saw. We're all talking about

644
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: Jagger Smith this preseason for great reason. This guy's going

645
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: to be a gun and he'll be locked away in

646
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: my team as well. But one of his best mates here,

647
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: Cooper Lord. At three hundred and twenty four thousand dollars,

648
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: I've got my eye on him as well. Finish the

649
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: season with an eighty eight average in his final eight games.

650
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: Now that includes a game where he was the sub

651
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: and scored twenty seven in just over a quarter, and

652
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: he had a seventy four in the final game of

653
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: the season when he was concussed at just halftime. So

654
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: if you look at his final games of the season,

655
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: he had one hundred and six, then at twenty seven

656
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: playing just a quarter one hundred and eleven, one hundred

657
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: and twenty one, and then seventy four and half a game.

658
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: So I think we should really be keeping our eye

659
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: on Cooper Lord this season coming in. I know that

660
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: we've now got another player to put into the midfield

661
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: mix in Jago Smith this year. Hopefully Sam Walsh's injury

662
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: free as well, and there's a few guys that can

663
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: roll through there, But just look out for Cooper Lord.

664
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,719
Speaker 1: Maybe it's more of a draft sleeper that we can

665
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: look at him for, but I'm very interested in how

666
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: his season coming up is going to go as well.

667
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: So Coep Lord for Carlton, keep an eye out on him.

668
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: He is in my black book. Now let's get into

669
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: burn men. This is a player that we think could

670
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: burn you if you start with them in round one.

671
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: A player that won't live up to expectations from last

672
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,479
Speaker 1: year and maybe drops an average or hurts you in

673
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: some way, shape or form, going to throw to you

674
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: alf to kick us off. Who is your burnman for

675
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six?

676
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 4: Well, I think he might have what are they giving

677
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 4: too much away on what happens behind the scenes, might

678
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 4: have wanted to scrap this segment, but I said, no,

679
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 4: we have to do this because we have to mention

680
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 4: Jason horn Francis, my man who was adam at all

681
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 4: last pre season that I wasn't going to pick him,

682
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 4: and then I gave at the last second, and I

683
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,479
Speaker 4: did pick him, which was the wrong decision, and then

684
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 4: I traded him out, which was the wrong decision, and

685
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 4: then I traded him back in, which was the wrong decision.

686
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 4: So absolute definition of a burn man. And he's kind

687
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 4: of made it easy for me this year by being

688
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 4: a mid only so price at five eleven K, his

689
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 4: averages about ninety five. I mean, I can definitely see

690
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 4: him improving that a bit. But yeah, plenty of others

691
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 4: ahead of him in the queue, So yeah, he hasn't

692
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 4: entered my thoughts at all, even despite Port. I think,

693
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 4: are we picking a few Port guys because I draw

694
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 4: is great, But yeah, I'm not going near the Horny

695
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 4: one this year.

696
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: Oh dear well, given that you seemingly made the wrong

697
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: decision to bring him in and bring him out at

698
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: the wrong times last year. Maybe this means he's going

699
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: to go big again, so maybe we should all be

700
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: jumping on any word on him out at port training though,

701
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 1: sim five names. I know that he's had a bit

702
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: of an injury setback already though, hasn't he with the surgery. Yeah,

703
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: he's back running.

704
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: So he wasn't training on Friday because he's at a funeral.

705
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: So but he will be back to train on Monday.

706
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they pretty like started run over Christmas.

707
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: I'm told you he's fine.

708
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: All right, five to two is your burnman for twenty

709
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: twenty six.

710
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to go with Chistnoy fan of oh Dane Zeltre.

711
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 4: He's thirty nine.

712
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not going to He's not going to average

713
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: one o two. He's not going to average what's the day?

714
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: You know, who knows how many games is I think

715
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: gonna play as well? You know, the Asian body. But yeah,

716
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: I just think, yeah, he's going to his average is

717
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: not going to be that.

718
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: I think that's I wonder how many people would seriously

719
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: pick him in class. I know he'll be picked up

720
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: in draft. I wonder how many people will honestly pick

721
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: him in classic. I mean because he was highly owned

722
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: last year given just how good he was. But it

723
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: will be Yeah, he'll be weird one. I don't think

724
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: you'd be highly owned, but you're right. I think this

725
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: far the time has to come for danes Orko eventually,

726
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,479
Speaker 1: although he has proven us all wrong so far, so

727
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: can to see how he goes. But Patch, who is

728
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: your burman?

729
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 3: I'm sticking in Brisbane and I had both barrels level

730
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 3: at this guy in well by halfway through the season,

731
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,479
Speaker 3: after I had taken him number one in the Office

732
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: League draft ahead of a bunch of other player who

733
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 3: I should have gone with instead. And then I picked

734
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 3: him in my classic team because of the cyclone situation,

735
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 3: and suddenly he didn't have a buy in the middle

736
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,719
Speaker 3: of the season, and then he every time I captained him,

737
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 3: he scored fifty and every time I needed him to deliver,

738
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 3: he could not do it. And I could not get

739
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 3: rid of locking eel for all of the season and

740
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 3: it drove me insane. So he was already in the

741
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 3: barrel as a burnman come the end of the season.

742
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,239
Speaker 3: Wanted nothing to do with him. You've got the up

743
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 3: and coming, you know, the Ashcrofts Marshall they've got all

744
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 3: these young, good players. You know, they've hadded another one

745
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 3: in the off season and got to get in here. Yeah,

746
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: and then if you you know, a month after that,

747
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 3: the off field stuff read its head and we don't

748
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: need to get into the details of that. But I'm

749
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 3: really sure that will be I'm sure we could. But

750
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 3: I won't be touching that with a ten foot pole,

751
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 3: and I won't be touching Locky Neil with a ten

752
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,959
Speaker 3: foot pole because I think there's just enough going on

753
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 3: that it will all end in tears if it hasn't already.

754
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, yes, now let's look, you guys have all

755
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: gone with your little mild not even spicy takes here

756
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: for the burn Man, nobody's coming out.

757
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 3: See this is a grudge segment, is it's not.

758
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: Ash for the rest of the squad. Bailey Smith Bernman

759
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six one hundred and eighteen. That's a

760
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: career high for him. He's got to replicate that again. Now.

761
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: He's an absolute cardio machine and a gun. We know that,

762
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: but last year he was easy to own. Every single

763
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: person had him. He missed what was at two or

764
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: three games with those laid outs last season. The Geelong

765
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: factor comes in to play here as well. When he

766
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: is now not going to be owned by every single team,

767
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: he'll be much more of a unique selection than he

768
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: was last season. You've got to deal with not just

769
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: the Gelong factor, but the Bailey Smith factor, whether or

770
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: not the panic that we all went through at times

771
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: last year and wondering whether or not he'll get up.

772
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: He played a heap of games, Don't get me wrong.

773
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 1: I think it was what twenty out of a possible

774
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: twenty four or even twenty one, But I think the

775
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: inclusion as well. You've got James Warpole coming in there

776
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: for a bit of help in the midfield. You've also

777
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: got possibly Tanner Bruin back in that midfield as well.

778
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 1: It's going to affect some of those contested possession numbers.

779
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: He's still a jet, but is he going to average

780
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: close to that one hundred and eighteen. I would suspect

781
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: that we see a little bit of a dip from

782
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: Bailey Smith and whether that's like an eight point five

783
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: point ten point I just don't think he's going to

784
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: be return as great a value as he did last year.

785
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: And given that, we could see a possible laid out

786
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: here or there, like we always seem to do with him.

787
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 1: I think he will be a burn Man in twenty

788
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: twenty six in Super Coach Classic. Of course we're talking

789
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: about here out yep, fair I agree with that.

790
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, just an absolute spike season. And obviously the

791
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 4: last year were able to pick him in the four line,

792
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 4: which is a joint luxury, which we can't do this year,

793
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 4: says Yeah. A lot more competition for those top end spots,

794
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 4: and he's al a lot more expensive than he was

795
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 4: last year too, so you were you know, those laid

796
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 4: outs and things. You can kind of cop it when

797
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 4: you're only paying three hundred grand for somebody, but when

798
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 4: you're paying well over six hundred, Yeah, you want someone

799
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 4: who's going to play every week carefully.

800
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Well that is our Burnman four season twenty

801
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: twenty six oul, and that was also our breakouts. Pretty

802
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: happy with those.

803
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 4: Introduce a new segment right at the very end, a

804
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 4: new category in Supercoach, which is we don't normally go

805
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 4: here because it's pretty harsh, but the rookie burn Man,

806
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 4: because last year I'm going to throw some names at you.

807
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 4: These guys are all rookie price again a Lijat Artist.

808
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, each never Henry Huswaite, Oh yeah, we'll go back

809
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: to the pencil. Yeah, we've got some love for the

810
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: pencil for sure.

811
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 3: Yep, Draper as well.

812
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's an interesting one. But yeah, all those guys,

813
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, the town's still there. I saw

814
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 4: our Dan, our friend friend of the pod, Dan Baton

815
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 4: talk it up Mitch Nevert at preseason training again. But yeah,

816
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 4: he's not going to suck us in this year. But

817
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 4: I hope all those guys get a bit more opportunity.

818
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 4: But it didn't quite work out. So, I mean the

819
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 4: other thing there is is there an interesting little lesson

820
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 4: because I think we all thought were certainly with those

821
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 4: first two guys, you're paying a little bit extra for

822
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 4: them as rookies, but you think, oh, well, you know

823
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 4: they're safe best twenty two top picks. But yeah, it

824
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 4: didn't quite happen. So might just keep that in the

825
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 4: back of the mind this year.

826
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, good little valuable lesson to leave us on their

827
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: hour as well as we finished this pod. But next podcast,

828
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: we'll be looking at some updated ownership numbers from Team

829
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: Picker before the official release of Super Coach coming very soon,

830
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: coming very soon. That is the teaser you get until then, though,

831
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: get onto. Team pickers still enjoy getting a head start

832
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: on the competition with super Coach plus jump in there,

833
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: enjoy let us know your breakouts or your burn men

834
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: in the comments, whether that's on Spotify, Apple or YouTube

835
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: Code Sports YouTube channel. Check us out over there and

836
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: we'll see you on the next show.