Speaker 1: It is the race that stops the nation. And now
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the Adelaide Cup today. I'm definitely
Speaker 1: not talking about the Melbourne Cup. It is the race
Speaker 1: to the first Super Coach lockout of the year. We
Speaker 1: are almost there. Welcome back to the Phantom's Lair, part
Speaker 1: of the official AFL Super Coach Podcast for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: This is the Phantom speaking, always the best show of
Speaker 1: the year. We're all excited. We're almost there, three days away.
Speaker 1: It is a public holiday here in Adelaide. You can
Speaker 1: tell five names has had a good long weekend. He's
Speaker 1: shown up for the people. Wanted to cap off his
Speaker 1: brilliant summer with a closing show before we kick off.
Speaker 1: Welcome sim Simme and Kingsley Thomas Wilson.
Speaker 2: Phantom, how are you? I'm dumb.
Speaker 3: It's good to see your smiling face at the moment,
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Speaker 2: Can talk about now New year? Knew me? I mean,
Speaker 2: should you have warned the people?
Speaker 1: Not about me? I'm always been about the people, the fans,
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Speaker 3: I'm still just warned to say you don't know what
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Speaker 1: coming up this week? Before we talk about a big shows?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so coming up this week we have a massive
Speaker 4: schedule before obviously Round one kicks off, opening Round is over.
Speaker 4: The scores didn't count over the weekend, but they do
Speaker 4: count for price changels. So coming up this week we've
Speaker 4: got this show, massive show to come here. Then we've
Speaker 4: got the Rookie Bible, your Final Verdict. Hoping Dan Baton
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Speaker 1: So come and find us. But big show, big show,
Speaker 1: big weekend of footy. A lot of news to talk about,
Speaker 1: our takeaways, all the scores from opening round of course,
Speaker 1: our final thoughts on the season. Who you'd need to
Speaker 1: pick who should leave out who we're picking? So a
Speaker 1: big show, Ossie. Let's start at the top. The biggest
Speaker 1: talking point in super coach Nick Dakos. What happened on Sunday.
Speaker 1: You know a man who would not go down with cramp,
Speaker 1: who he would keep on fighting five days. Look at him,
Speaker 1: he's just fronting up no matter what. Four on show
Speaker 1: for the people. Nick Dakos could barely run the second half.
Speaker 1: Got Toby Bedford as well as we did, expect sixty
Speaker 1: six super coach points from him on the weekend, and
Speaker 1: they're jumping off. The super coaches are jumping off in
Speaker 1: their droves.
Speaker 4: Yep, unless you weren't on from the staff vance. Yeah,
Speaker 4: well that was just my situation. Lots of coaches were
Speaker 4: on board. But yeah, as you say, jumping off, what
Speaker 4: do you think sim You know, obviously he's now got
Speaker 4: so as we said, scores didn't count last week, but
Speaker 4: that rolling average sixty six points into his rolling average.
Speaker 4: He's now going to have to score above and beyond
Speaker 4: that to keep his price. But as we know, Nick Daekos,
Speaker 4: he's going to be a keeper for the season. You
Speaker 4: don't necessarily need to worry about his price. Changing, but
Speaker 4: other coaches if you don't start with him, could get
Speaker 4: a benefit by not doing that and bringing him in
Speaker 4: at a cheaper price.
Speaker 1: Where do you sit at it?
Speaker 3: I haven't had I haven't had daycos because of that,
Speaker 3: I guess one of the bye but also there are
Speaker 3: tads coming up. Paul probably said Willem drew to him
Speaker 3: round one Saturday night. Obviously he got the Bedford one.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I just I've been off him just as
Speaker 3: much as absolute star. Just he's more of a guy
Speaker 3: like waiting to see also and try again after the
Speaker 3: buye for mine?
Speaker 4: Are you fans? I probably lean towards the same as sim.
Speaker 4: I just think you're fighting an uphill battle. You're going
Speaker 4: to get a cheaper price unless he does just absolutely
Speaker 4: go Ham, you know, fight back on the critics that
Speaker 4: the corns is of the world, saying he's not fit
Speaker 4: enough in the preseason. But yeah, we did know that
Speaker 4: he was coming in a little bit. I guess underdone
Speaker 4: for his standards, given he had the plan to Fashia,
Speaker 4: but we forgot about it when he dropped about a
Speaker 4: one fifty and a half a game against Richmond.
Speaker 2: So where do you sit fans down to fifty two.
Speaker 1: Ownership Nick Deakos at the time recording here on Monday
Speaker 1: before round one. I think the point you made there
Speaker 1: about he's a keeper, you're not picking Nick Dakos for
Speaker 1: your price. I think the opening round scores that affected
Speaker 1: in really helped. With these bargains. The rookies, you've got
Speaker 1: that locked in score. They're one step closer to a
Speaker 1: price rise. That's what you're going for with those cheaper selections.
Speaker 1: You're not going for that with Nick Dacos.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: It would seem obvious you try it. There's not a
Speaker 1: lot splitting these options at the top end. We know
Speaker 1: they can play, we know they can score, so you're
Speaker 1: always looking for something, So the obvious thing would be
Speaker 1: underdone score sixty six. These are two reasons leave him out,
Speaker 1: but it is Nick Dakos. I haven't taken him out
Speaker 1: just yet. I think back at the g this week
Speaker 1: than the Bulldogs the week after, I believe no one
Speaker 1: will definitely planning that night. So I'm backing him in.
Speaker 1: Could he become a bit of a pod maybe not
Speaker 1: giving up hope just yet. What do you think you're
Speaker 1: looking at me? A little bit funny? They're chief I
Speaker 1: know we've had this discussion off air. I put it
Speaker 1: on X last night. Who's off Nick Daykos. A lot
Speaker 1: of people are doing so already citing those reasons that
Speaker 1: you've discussed. Is it too, Is it just an obvious
Speaker 1: move for you?
Speaker 4: I just think, yeah, I mean I've probably gone towards
Speaker 4: a more value approach this year as to I think
Speaker 4: a lot of people in the community are kind of
Speaker 4: going towards not paying up full price in general, and
Speaker 4: I've kind of gone towards that mine of thinking. So
Speaker 4: sort of the way that jovin the format, the winner
Speaker 4: last year twenty twenty four reigning champ, has sort of
Speaker 4: talked about the way that he approaches the game, coming
Speaker 4: in not paying full price for basically anyone. So that's
Speaker 4: just where I'm sitting at the moment. And look, Nick
Speaker 4: Dakos may be underpriced for what we see him for
Speaker 4: him across the season, but given that he's now fighting
Speaker 4: an uphill battle, you know, he's got a sixty six
Speaker 4: in his score cycle. I'm happy to you know, follow
Speaker 4: the crowd in not you know, bringing him in. I personally,
Speaker 4: as I said, I didn't have him myself, but people
Speaker 4: that did have him in their plans.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think it's really up to the Honestly, you could
Speaker 4: go either way. I'm personally, based on my strategy, I'm
Speaker 4: going to go against it. But you know, I think
Speaker 4: if you had him in your plans and your affirm
Speaker 4: that he's going to go up across the season and
Speaker 4: average more than he is priced at, I don't think
Speaker 4: you should change your plans if that was what you thought.
Speaker 1: Yep. A flag mantle here on X you know, sums
Speaker 1: up the replies I got for his price by a
Speaker 1: limited preseason, I'm not going there. Yeah, I think that's
Speaker 1: where I see it as well. Pies were pretty ordinary too.
Speaker 1: Didn't look great in the midfield when he wasn't up
Speaker 1: and going. Is the support going to come? Jordan to go.
Speaker 1: He won't play against the Power on Saturday Night either,
Speaker 1: So a lot a lot saying to drop him. Yep,
Speaker 1: did pair them.
Speaker 2: We do enough.
Speaker 1: Jumping to perim I think. So I was not looking
Speaker 1: for reasons not to pick him, but it was pretty
Speaker 1: happy with my structure without him at the price though
Speaker 1: he probably did. I think there's the obvious value there,
Speaker 1: the roles there, he did some heavy lifting, he's going
Speaker 1: to do going to need to do even more heavy lifting.
Speaker 1: But what we saw from Colinwood on Sunday, Let's jump.
Speaker 4: Back to the first game though. This was a massive
Speaker 4: talking point on the first game of the round. Will
Speaker 4: Day one hundred and forty eight super coach points, I'm
Speaker 4: with you on Perryman. He he you know, he did enough.
Speaker 4: I think if he was in your plans, you can
Speaker 4: keep him. But if you didn't have this guy on
Speaker 4: your plans, Will Day, I think you've been big on him.
Speaker 3: But I got him out of my team, so now
Speaker 3: I'm trying to find a way to get him back
Speaker 3: into my team.
Speaker 2: That was I wasn't saying, wasn't.
Speaker 1: It unbelieved three goals.
Speaker 2: In the first half.
Speaker 3: I guess the thing was he did get tagged by Jordan,
Speaker 3: but but.
Speaker 2: Awful, still one and that's always a cheap thing.
Speaker 4: Chance your opinion on will Day twenty six disposals, four mark,
Speaker 4: six tackles, nine clearances to go with those three goals
Speaker 4: and seven score involvements. Notable played seventy three percent tome
Speaker 4: of ground he did get hobbled at one point too, yep,
Speaker 4: and fifty five percent center bounce attendances which probably where
Speaker 4: we were thinking. You know, we were wondering whether he
Speaker 4: was going to play pure inside mid We're wondering which
Speaker 4: what the mix is going to be. I think it's
Speaker 4: going to be a mixture of both. But where do
Speaker 4: you sit with will Day?
Speaker 1: Very impressive, no doubt about that, and we've spoken about
Speaker 1: on the show. We spoke about will Day's comments earlier
Speaker 1: in January about he acknowledged the best midfielders in the
Speaker 1: comp do get forward have an impact on the scoreboard.
Speaker 1: That's where his progression is set it. It's one thing
Speaker 1: to say it, another thing to then go and do it.
Speaker 1: Kick three goals in your first game. He wants to
Speaker 1: get forward, have an impact. He definitely did that. The
Speaker 1: tag did work though after halftime he was pretty good
Speaker 1: in the last quarter. Will Day, after those issues in
Speaker 1: that third, got wet game, become a bit more of
Speaker 1: a scrap. I like him as we all do. One
Speaker 1: hundred and forty eight, though Super Coach points that his
Speaker 1: high score for the year. Potentially, are we this guy
Speaker 1: is going to be a star and a super Coach guy.
Speaker 1: I'm not downing that, but are we chasing the points
Speaker 1: here with him? What can we expect. It's obviously good
Speaker 1: art to that you probably win Dussie, so.
Speaker 4: Well, seeing as I'm going to win our concert for you.
Speaker 4: Will Fade is the name of the game. This you've
Speaker 4: been waiting to use that.
Speaker 1: I've been waiting a long time. I think I called
Speaker 1: it Thursday night.
Speaker 4: When I was having a little bit of a nerdy
Speaker 4: catch up with the Fantasy lads.
Speaker 1: Where's my nuff alarm here?
Speaker 4: I went down Fantasy lads, yea, caught up with the
Speaker 4: boys over the weekend, called him will fade. Now this
Speaker 4: is why, Okay, down the brow and flagged. Turn the
Speaker 4: cameras on. I flag this pretty early days looking at
Speaker 4: his schedule, obviously wasn't expecting as big a score round
Speaker 4: zero against Sydneys ones who have deployed a tag before
Speaker 4: they did as you said in the second half, but
Speaker 4: not early days when he was just dominating one undred
Speaker 4: and forty eight points in the rolling average. Does make
Speaker 4: you think twice he's got Essenon up first in the
Speaker 4: proper season for Super Coach Round one the Blues GWS,
Speaker 4: and then of course, given he had the opening round,
Speaker 4: he's then got the buy. I think you'll get tagged
Speaker 4: every single week up until he's buy from here, and
Speaker 4: for that reason, I'm happy to fade and go against
Speaker 4: the will Day train. So like Droot will tag him
Speaker 4: from Giants who Bedford, He's going to definitely cot Bedford
Speaker 4: without a doubt at the essenon does Sam Durham go
Speaker 4: to him, given we know that he can do the
Speaker 4: run with roll, does it? I don't know, Like I
Speaker 4: don't know how they're going to do it. All I
Speaker 4: know is that coach, a coach watching opening round and
Speaker 4: seeing what Wilde did will not go without putting somebody
Speaker 4: on him after seeing you know how we've seen him
Speaker 4: get his influence curtailed in the second half, You've seen
Speaker 4: what's happened with Dekos. I think this might be the
Speaker 4: first year in a few years we're we're actually going
Speaker 4: to see tags right from the get go, Whereas you
Speaker 4: know in previous years there's been a few weeks where
Speaker 4: coaches have let him run free and then income the tags.
Speaker 1: This year round one tag we will not. That's the
Speaker 1: line Will not. A couple of thoughts coming through on
Speaker 1: X about this obviously Finn Callahan as well on Sunday,
Speaker 1: Huge similar price bracket. We'll talk about him in a minute,
Speaker 1: Matthew here on next can you start Day older Callahan
Speaker 1: and Adam Cherah in the same starting side, and Martin
Speaker 1: Lovett the Hips is number one fan. But with the
Speaker 1: first time I think five names ever delivered something serious
Speaker 1: about supercoaching, hasn't clipped the hips to say, Martin, we
Speaker 1: want you to add the clip of the hips the
Speaker 1: next time. So too serious from you. But fans, as
Speaker 1: a mantra of don't jump at shadows in the preseason
Speaker 1: stick fat in round zero. Huge love for Callahan and Day,
Speaker 1: but the big scores only stay in the system for
Speaker 1: one week. Anyway, in the lair jumping on to Callahan
Speaker 1: and Day, so her thoughts about will Day Finn Callahan
Speaker 1: into your side.
Speaker 2: Strongly consider it?
Speaker 3: I love a look at it like I reckon, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just looking at them for Tom Green's out obviously,
Speaker 3: so you know, is he There's a reason why we've
Speaker 3: all rate people, teams have rated Finn Callahan. You know,
Speaker 3: sin Kilda wanted to pay an amazing amount of money,
Speaker 3: which you don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know why you're not bout that contraver.
Speaker 3: That's fine, this guy can this guy should in theory
Speaker 3: be a very good player. Eventually you want that breakout.
Speaker 3: It looks like it's going to happen, so yeah, then
Speaker 3: if then if I like it, it's nice A little word.
Speaker 4: I think the roles Tom agree with either. Yeah say
Speaker 4: that now? Yeah, I mean center bounce is to your point,
Speaker 4: last year, including finals, for Finn Callahan, he was at
Speaker 4: center bounces at forty three percent at the time, and
Speaker 4: that's just looking at how many times he obviously a
Speaker 4: tens of center bounce after a goal, but forty three percent.
Speaker 4: Last year he was at eighty eight percent in opening rounds,
Speaker 4: so he was their number one center bounce mid To
Speaker 4: your point that I think Tom Green coming in may
Speaker 4: impact it a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah maybe, but.
Speaker 4: Playing that well, you know you're going to play Tom
Speaker 4: Green and you're going to play Finn Callahan.
Speaker 1: They play different styles.
Speaker 4: They're not the same sort of player as well, which
Speaker 4: if they are two big bodied, slow sort of type midfielders,
Speaker 4: you can get away with playing both of them. So
Speaker 4: he's not all of a sudden they play on a wing. Okay,
Speaker 4: The only thing for me is he's got the round
Speaker 4: two by so as opposed to Will Dave. If you
Speaker 4: think Will Day can break those those potential tags that
Speaker 4: I've mentioned. If you think he can beat those, you
Speaker 4: know you're going to get a price rise out of
Speaker 4: him immediately. In those first three weeks, you're not going
Speaker 4: to get the same out of Finn Callahan. You're getting
Speaker 4: one game and then you're you're getting a buy, and
Speaker 4: then you've got a second a game after that buy
Speaker 4: in which his price will change. So the way I
Speaker 4: think i'd approach Finn Callahan is like without a doubt,
Speaker 4: or have some sort of failed pick after round After
Speaker 4: round two we've seen I think, I think is why
Speaker 4: not just wait after round one we see how it goes.
Speaker 4: If he looks incredible again, you haven't lost out yet,
Speaker 4: his price is not going to change. Good point, you're
Speaker 4: going to have the buy around in round three when
Speaker 4: he comes back.
Speaker 1: I think he's got to.
Speaker 4: I can't remember what his matchup is after that, but regardless,
Speaker 4: I think if you're happy with the price change, if
Speaker 4: he's got some stupid negative break even heading into round
Speaker 4: three after his round two by that's when I think
Speaker 4: you can make your little adjustment. You can trade out
Speaker 4: a failed pick, bring in a Finn Callahan, and away
Speaker 4: you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree because then it becomes you know, you
Speaker 1: can just take it for the money train aspect of
Speaker 1: as well, make a lot of early money with that,
Speaker 1: be a bit more sure about it. So I do
Speaker 1: like it.
Speaker 4: I think you'll be I do think you'll be pretty
Speaker 4: good this year after seeing that. If you start him
Speaker 4: and you're confident fielding, you know, fielding your rookies, and
Speaker 4: you've got a pretty good structure.
Speaker 1: I don't have an issue starting. But that's just where
Speaker 1: my thinking is. Hawk's Eagles and Saints for the Giants.
Speaker 4: Get him in a round three at least, or just
Speaker 4: start with him. Look, honestly, no, I think that's the
Speaker 4: way to go. Wait and see on him.
Speaker 1: Both probably neither coming into my team to start, okay,
Speaker 1: sticking fat yep.
Speaker 4: What about another player where we're all searching for a ruckman.
Speaker 4: We've struggled. If you're not starting a Cherry or you're
Speaker 4: not starting at Gorn, we're.
Speaker 1: All starting, we're starting, you're.
Speaker 4: Looking for a ruckman see camerone one hundred and sixty
Speaker 4: four super Coach points Obviously here and Rick went down early,
Speaker 4: hoping all the best for him. Recovery that looked pretty
Speaker 4: nasty for Kieran Briggs went down very early. Cameron got
Speaker 4: to ruck against one Lachlan Keith. Now you're a good
Speaker 4: size old chief. You could probably do a better job
Speaker 4: than Locky Keith. I think, don't don't do lucky Keif
Speaker 4: do like that, don't mind a bit of Keith. So
Speaker 4: he tried, he tried hard, but yeah, it was I
Speaker 4: think fantasy Freco put out the tweet and it was ugly.
Speaker 4: The moment that Keith took over dark, Cameron really took
Speaker 4: control of the game.
Speaker 1: And he won sixty four nine of those against Briggs
Speaker 1: nine nine. Who the Giants play next week?
Speaker 2: Giants have gore im sorry round one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, actually gone for a two hundred round one.
Speaker 1: Back to Darcy Cameron, are you buying that? Are we
Speaker 1: buying the height?
Speaker 4: It's a big score in the rolling average. I know
Speaker 4: Joey Montagna who had Darcy Cameron in his team early,
Speaker 4: so he wouldn't be taking him out. So if he
Speaker 4: was in your plans by all means, if you think
Speaker 4: he's going to improve the average like Mason Cox, I
Speaker 4: think still a little bit away if he's even in
Speaker 4: the team anymore.
Speaker 1: Listening to the radio, I hate it. I don't hate it.
Speaker 1: Listening to the radio on Sunday, Joey actually half an
Speaker 1: hour before the bounce, made his big call and said,
Speaker 1: Darcie Cameron's going to be Australian been this year. Came
Speaker 1: out and deliver bit that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, Joey Montagna, Yeah, I don't hate it, he certainly.
Speaker 4: I mean he finished last year strong, so I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'd have to see what his rock matchups are like
Speaker 4: coming up. They're obviously not going to be Lockie Keith
Speaker 4: every week, so take it with a grain of salt. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think he was a nice score though, so I'm
Speaker 4: I don't think I can go there personally anyway.
Speaker 1: He buried the opening round lead here, Chief Maddie Roberts.
Speaker 1: If he wasn't he was a lock already in our sides, well,
Speaker 1: I think so locked in mine, locked in a lot
Speaker 1: of other sides now and for good reason. Twenty six touches,
Speaker 1: nine marks, one hundred and twenty four super Coach points.
Speaker 1: And like we've said, you try to argue against me
Speaker 1: about if he doesn't have the kickings, can he do enough?
Speaker 1: He can again, if he's the man they kick too
Speaker 1: from the kickings, the man they go to as the
Speaker 1: s out there as well. That's what they do. I
Speaker 1: like to use him, very efficient, bull user, makes good decisions.
Speaker 1: Lock him in, I think, my if you can go
Speaker 1: back on Code Sports, you you're trying to watch our
Speaker 1: bold predictions show. I had Matt Roberts top six in defense.
Speaker 1: Maybe not that out there anymore. There's a chance if
Speaker 1: he plays like that. Yeah, I want to go back
Speaker 1: to your point, Roberts. The kickings.
Speaker 4: So there was a stat by Jaden Popowski which stat
Speaker 4: whiz on the Twitter.
Speaker 1: But this.
Speaker 4: Proves your point perfectly. So didn't take only took the
Speaker 4: one kit the enough button. Ready three he doesn't deserve that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: three Mark kicks coming directly from Blakey out of those
Speaker 4: kick ins that Blake he had. So as to your point,
Speaker 4: they're using each other, he's he's sort of that in
Speaker 4: between guy. But yeah, I think he's a lock for me.
Speaker 1: Perraman and Roberts, so get him both into defense, I think.
Speaker 1: So yep, I think so five names yep. Obviously all
Speaker 1: in on Joel Freezer.
Speaker 2: So yep, we're still there, yep.
Speaker 1: But I like him too. Was in my team. He's
Speaker 1: in my team in the moment, but I want to
Speaker 1: get pyramid. So you got all three of those guys.
Speaker 2: No, I don't have Roberts, I will I will ring Roberts.
Speaker 1: Can you fit all those three in easily? What do
Speaker 1: you think?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you'd have to, you'd have to back in that
Speaker 4: Fraser's really freezer. He's really going to take it to
Speaker 4: the next level.
Speaker 1: But I don't know.
Speaker 4: Let's as a broader question, where are you guys sitting
Speaker 4: in your defense and you're going pure value? Are we
Speaker 4: still sticking with some some real premiums up the top end?
Speaker 4: Like in general? Where's I've found the defenders? I think
Speaker 4: I mentioned it early in the preseason. It's stuck that way.
Speaker 4: I thought maybe we'd get more options emerge, I mean
Speaker 4: Maddi Roberts, because we're already high on him. I think
Speaker 4: we already had him in our plans. But where are
Speaker 4: you guys sitting at defense? I'm kind of I think
Speaker 4: I'm learning full value at the moment, so I think
Speaker 4: you can fit them all in.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm going to go with Robert someone and
Speaker 3: actually bring him in for Nazz, so a.
Speaker 1: Bit more sure thing, I think in terms of one
Speaker 1: hundred plus.
Speaker 2: And he's also cheaper, so Shecheesel.
Speaker 3: I'm happy to start with him because I think, like
Speaker 3: on your thing before about you know, I guess full
Speaker 3: full price players you probably you know, with midfields especially,
Speaker 3: you can always find value there. I think Shecheesel's one
Speaker 3: guy that I'm happy to have full price just so
Speaker 3: this guy's he'll.
Speaker 1: Be a top ten.
Speaker 4: He's got the top five, top six defender, like he
Speaker 4: should be likely top he should be.
Speaker 2: Top three at the least. Let's say that.
Speaker 3: So like, you know, have you go here and then
Speaker 3: you can just get value, you know, value like I guess,
Speaker 3: I'm also been on Jaden Short.
Speaker 1: In the team you've been Yeah, haven't.
Speaker 2: Changed that one, I reckon. I'm happy to do that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: One thing I'm a little bit concerned about why the
Speaker 2: defense rookies. You know it's not my boy James Leak.
Speaker 1: Yep, he saved him. Everyone rode him off, everyone wrote
Speaker 1: him off.
Speaker 3: But no we didn't hear low time on ground low
Speaker 3: still sixty take sixty four points?
Speaker 1: No you will?
Speaker 2: You take sixty four points?
Speaker 1: Well, get a snag.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just going to be what else is out there?
Speaker 1: Because yeah, we'll get onto rookies. But with James Leak,
Speaker 1: you know, could go glass half four half empt without
Speaker 1: fifty four percent game time. Is it a sign that
Speaker 1: he could be the first one out or is it
Speaker 1: a sign hot day debut? Maybe they plan to sub
Speaker 1: him off anyway, Kiaran Briggs got injured early, so they
Speaker 1: couldn't nursed him through his debut a little bit as well.
Speaker 4: Also went to as well as like Petling's out of
Speaker 4: that team and he had that really low time on
Speaker 4: ground roll like that's I guess while we're keen on
Speaker 4: to start with because he had such low time on
Speaker 4: ground and he was kind of that grunt player as well.
Speaker 4: Maybe that's just where Leak's coming in. He's going to
Speaker 4: play low time on ground. But maybe that job security
Speaker 4: is higher than we think and let's yeah, let's hope that.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it was just seeing the time on ground,
Speaker 4: I was a bit like, oh, it's probably not as
Speaker 4: much as I'd want, but yeah, it was a hot day,
Speaker 4: gross out there with the cramps.
Speaker 1: So well, I've changed my defense a little bit since
Speaker 1: the last episode. We'll see the no early buy for
Speaker 1: the Lions anymore. We know West Coast and Richmond in
Speaker 1: the first month squeezing in Dane's Orco five ninety five k.
Speaker 1: That could go pear shape. We know it has before
Speaker 1: Dane's Orco Richmond and West Coast. Yeah, I've spoke about
Speaker 1: a lucky Neil could do ye last week. Okay, round
Speaker 1: two again, one is on the cart. Hilarious the change
Speaker 1: of opinion on Zorco. Though last year we were petrified
Speaker 1: to pay up for him at like three, like it
Speaker 1: would rise. It was rise in the price, like we
Speaker 1: can't pay that much with SOCCA. Now we're willing to
Speaker 1: pay what six hundred k? How much is he? There's
Speaker 1: no I can't do that.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, thirty six like the time he's undefeated, I
Speaker 4: just can't. It might be underpriced after four reuns. I
Speaker 4: know I'm seven for a season. I'm not playing for
Speaker 4: four rounds.
Speaker 1: Fans to New ball game, got the boose, got the trades.
Speaker 1: I think I want to fit him in Lockie Whitfield
Speaker 1: didn't do barely anything. Yes, they had on undred, one
Speaker 1: hundred and eleven super coach points. He's there locked in.
Speaker 1: I think at D two, Zorko at D three at
Speaker 1: the moment, just got to work out Roberts at D four.
Speaker 1: It's gonna work out what happens after that. Is it
Speaker 1: the rookies? Is it Periman? Is he too? Is that
Speaker 1: too deep? Well, I've also go on.
Speaker 4: I like, now I don't know if he might even
Speaker 4: be a point of difference now and maybe I should
Speaker 4: have saved this.
Speaker 1: We are going through our pews later on.
Speaker 4: Actually he might be so, but I've got another defender
Speaker 4: that Liam Hagen very keen on. Yeah, let's talk about
Speaker 4: him later. I like it should we get onto some
Speaker 4: of the sort of just broader topics. I think we
Speaker 4: should quickly just touch on some of the injuries. We
Speaker 4: did mention Kieran Briggs. He was out subbed. James Warple
Speaker 4: probably more draft relevant out Angus Sheldrick was probably the
Speaker 4: really big one from the weekend fans.
Speaker 1: Scratch him off. We know there's a lot of top
Speaker 1: price options in the rookie category in the midfield. Almost
Speaker 1: had too many. I think we could now probably cut
Speaker 1: him off. That was still could come out surprise as
Speaker 1: play a full game. But we've spoken about the stub
Speaker 1: risk with him. We saw it last year. Swans didn't
Speaker 1: get the job done. Cayden clear he will be back
Speaker 1: at some point eventually. Think our food suspension obviously Taylor Adams.
Speaker 1: Another injury helps Sheldrick maybe, but I think there's enough now,
Speaker 1: especially with a low score in his rolling average already,
Speaker 1: I think you could probably overlook him. Ed Allen in
Speaker 1: the midfield superstar seventy one super Coach points for him,
Speaker 1: you've locked that into his rolling average for me, automatically
Speaker 1: jumps way over Sheldrick in terms of starting options in
Speaker 1: the midfield.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, let's get onto just some broad topics here.
Speaker 4: Where do we sit at the moment? Mid price madness,
Speaker 4: guns and rookies or a fine balance of both. I've
Speaker 4: sort of already mentioned I'm I guess you could classify
Speaker 4: me going mid price madness because I'm going to try it.
Speaker 1: I think this year.
Speaker 4: I always say I'm going to do it. I never
Speaker 4: follow through. I don't think I'm going to pay up
Speaker 4: for one top price premium. I'm going to try and
Speaker 4: get under price premiums everywhere, value value value, See if
Speaker 4: I stick to my guns by the first partial lockout Thursday.
Speaker 1: But where are you sitting? Firstly, who's in one?
Speaker 4: Then Andrew Brayshaw? So I mean you could count him
Speaker 4: as a top price premium.
Speaker 1: But he's.
Speaker 4: He's not fair, he's under so lucky hundred k and
Speaker 4: shout out to Pig of the Doctor super Coach, one
Speaker 4: of my super coach friends Button nothing, No, look, we
Speaker 4: are big. He's big on not paying over six hundred k.
Speaker 4: That's the line he set six hundred k. I'm backing
Speaker 4: him in this year. I don't want to pay over
Speaker 4: six hundred k. And that includes the likes of a
Speaker 4: Harry Sheesel, includes the likes of a Nick Dakos.
Speaker 1: I think these you can get them off Harry's. You
Speaker 1: know what my best trade is? Could you leave this five? Now?
Speaker 4: Do you know what my best trade was last year?
Speaker 4: Waiting for Harry She's and bring him in under when
Speaker 4: he finally dropped price.
Speaker 1: Where did you finish last year? I started? Yeah, I started.
Speaker 1: I was doing no Harry Sheesel. I get the values
Speaker 1: there as well, but sometimes you get what you pay for.
Speaker 1: Interesting about balancing the team out, balancing that team out.
Speaker 1: So that's where I sit. Where are you at?
Speaker 3: Sim I've got I've got lucky Neil Sheesel, So yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm happy to pay up for maybe one, one or
Speaker 3: two guys like that. I don't but outside there's a
Speaker 3: lot of more mid mid price guys after that, I
Speaker 3: reckon it's like, you know, Neil actually, if I'm watching
Speaker 3: my team now, yeah, Neil M one, brace Shaw M
Speaker 3: two and there's all of M three still got Jason
Speaker 3: Lego in there, so it goes very yes, quite mid
Speaker 3: price after that.
Speaker 1: So Lego's still in there, sticking to his guns though.
Speaker 3: Yeah one and then yeah, like the defense is talking about,
Speaker 3: you know, can you get short Roberts, Perryman Fraser in
Speaker 3: at the moment?
Speaker 2: So there, so yeah, well see there we go lock
Speaker 2: and he was.
Speaker 1: Still only in twenty four percent of teams thought that
Speaker 1: might skyrocket.
Speaker 3: That changed the by change their start and actually him
Speaker 3: being available for the buy, like yeah, his buy changing.
Speaker 1: I'm just recovering from your shock.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: You sit here with you know, two of the greatest
Speaker 1: super coach mines in South Australia five names, and myself
Speaker 1: old mate, bold mate, well, old mate pig. Just there's
Speaker 1: a couple of things, have a couple of refreshments with
Speaker 1: your oh fancy enough nuts, and you've changed your thinking.
Speaker 1: You are I thought you weren't. I thought you were
Speaker 1: a man of standing chief. You've just Emily influenced.
Speaker 4: Okay, this is the big question that people want to
Speaker 4: know as well, as we said rookie Marble coming tuesday.
Speaker 4: How many rookies have on field right now to start
Speaker 4: the season. So you talk the big game, you've got
Speaker 4: these big guns. How many rookies you got on field?
Speaker 4: Do we count flets?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Count flex? All right, talk about flextoness. At the moment,
Speaker 1: I've got on field, Sam Davidson, Yep, Mitch Nevert, Levi Ashcroft,
Speaker 1: Lijah statists beIN O'Sullivan and at the moment, haven't put
Speaker 1: Perimi in. So I've got leacln Reid in the fence
Speaker 1: on field. Okay, so pretty similar.
Speaker 3: I've got the Yeah, I'm not against the strategy.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm probably balanced as well. I think, given we're
Speaker 1: all looking for that value the middle parlia, midfield, in
Speaker 1: the forward line, there's some good mid price value in
Speaker 1: defense as well. I think we're all playing a little
Speaker 1: bit of mid price madness as well. So I put
Speaker 1: myself in that balanced approach as well. Still got the
Speaker 1: big names at the top end, Shecheesel, Neil Jerry obviously
Speaker 1: the horny one I Isac Rankin. So the balance SE's
Speaker 1: probably not going to change too much. We're not expecting
Speaker 1: to be surprised with these top end rookies. It's unlikely
Speaker 1: that Phino Sali and Sadas Ashcroft, Oh Driscoll, these types
Speaker 1: don't get picked all of a sudden, see Draper. If
Speaker 1: we if we find out ahead of time that he's
Speaker 1: in the twenty two five, names might be able to
Speaker 1: give us a bit more know he wrote about the
Speaker 1: selection than the lemmas at the Crows and the Power
Speaker 1: Today on Monday Code Sports dot com dot Au. But
Speaker 1: would you start, sid Draper? Would he go ahead of
Speaker 1: some of these names we've mentioned if Matthew Nicks came
Speaker 1: out and said he's not sub and he's playing, that's
Speaker 1: a good.
Speaker 2: Question because.
Speaker 3: Him, yeah, that has Actually it's a big if at
Speaker 3: the moment, big if I think I'd still the guys
Speaker 3: that I've got, you know, your Fino Sullivan's start, as
Speaker 3: you know Levi Astro, I'd probably rather still go there.
Speaker 3: Just maybe it's because you know, we see them all
Speaker 3: the time and we maybe I've just not in my
Speaker 3: head that he's going to be a big sub risk.
Speaker 3: If it's not this week, he could be the week
Speaker 3: after he gets taken off early because they do want
Speaker 3: to manage him, so they do want to you know,
Speaker 3: bring him, you know, like trying to bring you along
Speaker 3: gradually kind of thing. So I think the risk is
Speaker 3: probably just a little too great for me given some
Speaker 3: of the other guys that are that are still are
Speaker 3: still are still around, you know. Yeah, but if you
Speaker 3: knew he's trying to play five games in a row
Speaker 3: and not Pio need to play.
Speaker 4: It's a big price to pay for sure with the
Speaker 4: guys that we think we've got available to us, but
Speaker 4: time will tell if they are available.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've ranked the Rookie Price Office. Obviously. You can
Speaker 1: listen and watch the Rookie Bible on Tuesday. You can
Speaker 1: also find my updated rookie rankings in the Super Coach
Speaker 1: News tab on your app as well. Who to pick
Speaker 1: my best options in every line, so plenty of content.
Speaker 1: They're all week, does.
Speaker 4: He I've got five rookies on field, including flex so
Speaker 4: and all rookies that I have big faith in, apart.
Speaker 1: From defense where you spending your money? I don't know.
Speaker 4: Actually when you said that, I was like, yeah, no,
Speaker 4: I don't actually still have got a bit of rookies
Speaker 4: on field. Now, I think I've got more depth in
Speaker 4: my rookies on the bench. Think I've got I've paid
Speaker 4: up for the rookies on the bench. So I think
Speaker 4: that's where I'm at, just to get the cash gen
Speaker 4: going on the bench.
Speaker 1: How much cashty on the bench? Who's only bench in
Speaker 1: the moment in the midfield? Ashcroft moved there, geez the moment. Okay,
Speaker 1: he might move back on, but he's there at the moment.
Speaker 1: Never isn't there Okay? And that's probably the two big
Speaker 1: price yep, guys. So I mean, have you said last
Speaker 1: year not paying up big time so larger? Who are
Speaker 1: going to play? Larjah Hewitt's in there? Well, I think
Speaker 1: he will.
Speaker 4: I mean the latest I thought out of Perth was
Speaker 4: that mcgualta was saying that he thinks he'll be right
Speaker 4: to be available for selection now a couple of days ago.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: I think regardless, he's probably going to sit there, like
Speaker 4: I'd be happy to have him as a rookie on
Speaker 4: the bench regardless. I think he's going to play enough
Speaker 4: games this year to be worthwhile.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: On my bench to the DPP so I quite like
Speaker 4: the DPP swing. So that's another reason. Let's move on
Speaker 4: to my next dilemma, which it sounds like you guys
Speaker 4: don't have too much of a dilemma, but rucks.
Speaker 1: How are we looking? It's been a big conversation this
Speaker 1: pre season.
Speaker 4: We've obviously got the flex as well there which you
Speaker 4: can use on any position, so a ruck could be
Speaker 4: utilized there as well. We'll talk about our flex a
Speaker 4: little bit later and who we've got there, but in
Speaker 4: terms of rocks, maybe we talk about it now as well,
Speaker 4: using the flex for a ruck early because I've got
Speaker 4: the numbers of who the top popular options in flex
Speaker 4: are from our exclusive data our patents centered across for.
Speaker 1: US team play just also got some you know, we
Speaker 1: love the input from the listeners. Kalie Williams from over
Speaker 1: there and the herald son too is Flinn r to
Speaker 1: a terrible idea, so that goes into the mix as
Speaker 1: well at this conversation. But for me, I think five
Speaker 1: names to a lot of super coaches around the country,
Speaker 1: Tristan Cherry and Tom to Coning probably not moved from there.
Speaker 1: Flinn net Flex for me at the moment, did have
Speaker 1: a rookie in there, found a bit more money. I
Speaker 1: think pretty much rookie. It's real top end. You know,
Speaker 1: he's only what forty k more expensive than Sam Lawler,
Speaker 1: who will talk about as well. But I think if
Speaker 1: he's there number one ruckman, he makes some serious cash.
Speaker 1: So he's my flex for me. Three ruckmen and you're
Speaker 1: the same.
Speaker 3: I've got TDK and yeah, Cherry, but I've got a
Speaker 3: rookie in my fleets position.
Speaker 2: No Flinn, no Flinn, Okay, don't the cash so far?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Have you got Flynn Flynn R too?
Speaker 1: Flyin R too? For me?
Speaker 4: I'm going Tom daconing R one, trusting what I had
Speaker 4: in that hot pat.
Speaker 1: I'm ready to get her. I'm ready to get hurt again. Guys.
Speaker 4: I was an owner last year. For those that didn't
Speaker 4: listen last year, I was an owner last year. Jumped
Speaker 4: on for the beautiful one seventy six he had against
Speaker 4: his brother as captain, which made me a TDK fan
Speaker 4: for life, But went through the downs after that, which
Speaker 4: included about several weeks of donuts for no. I wasn't happy,
Speaker 4: you weren't happy with him. But I'm back on it.
Speaker 4: I've had time to heal. I'm bad. I'm ready to
Speaker 4: be hurt again, as I said, So, yeah, Tom Daconey,
Speaker 4: for me, starting the season as the solo ruck with
Speaker 4: no pitt neet, that's enough for me. I think he
Speaker 4: just gets the hitouts. We've talked about him plenty of times,
Speaker 4: hitouts advantage, but not just that. The contested possessions is
Speaker 4: his differentiator. He's able to play as an extra midfielder,
Speaker 4: but he just racks up contested possessions every touch he
Speaker 4: gets just about contested. So I'm all about it for
Speaker 4: Tommy Deconey, So he flats.
Speaker 1: My flex is a rookie at the moment.
Speaker 4: I've got sadists there at the moment, so I'm playing
Speaker 4: a bit more flexibility. I've got some DPP action in
Speaker 4: the midfield as well. You know, maybe a dossy team
Speaker 4: revealed this week's on the cards. So no Cherry or
Speaker 4: no Gorn.
Speaker 1: No, although like going to probably hurt me, he wreaked. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, I'm worried, petrified. I'm absolutely petrified. That's how
Speaker 1: I was starting. Interesting. Interesting, Yep, I'm with you on TDK.
Speaker 1: We're all with you on TDK.
Speaker 4: It's been talked about a bit, but the schedule that
Speaker 4: Tristian Cherry has is not an easy ruck schedule, which
Speaker 4: he you know, coming home last year, every ruck match
Speaker 4: up he had just about where he completely dominated.
Speaker 1: You know, he had a few.
Speaker 4: Obviously he played amazing football, but it seemed like every
Speaker 4: week he'd come up against a new ruck that didn't
Speaker 4: have their ruck in.
Speaker 1: It was like so and so's injured. This person's easy
Speaker 1: ruck match.
Speaker 4: It was just like a perfect It was a perfect storm.
Speaker 4: He's a gun. It was a perfect storm. Though to
Speaker 4: have that massive end of the season. I think he
Speaker 4: averaged under one hundred and ten or something heading up
Speaker 4: to his by So I just think if we're talking,
Speaker 4: as I said, this strategy that I'm attempting to try
Speaker 4: and grip my teeth through of not paying full price,
Speaker 4: that would include Tristian Cherry, who has it quite a
Speaker 4: if we're basing it on last year's data, a reasonably
Speaker 4: tough run to start the season in the rucke. So
Speaker 4: we're obviously excluding round one where he'll probably dominate against
Speaker 4: Tim English.
Speaker 1: So we're all pretty split. We're all split there in
Speaker 1: the rucks, be more similar in the forward line. Look
Speaker 1: at super coach teams across the country. We've seen what
Speaker 1: they're doing out there. There's some bargains there. It's too
Speaker 1: hard to go past. Even our man, our Peyton has conformed.
Speaker 1: Anyone have to have him Isaac Rank and F two
Speaker 1: and then the bargains that you can't ever look. Is
Speaker 1: that where you're at?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think I think four are very similar.
Speaker 4: Yeah no, no, oh no, what have you changed?
Speaker 1: What have you seen?
Speaker 4: Or so this is where I've gone, maybe tried to
Speaker 4: get a little bit tricky.
Speaker 1: So the chief, what's coming up here? To the warning?
Speaker 1: Do you enough enough warning?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Really, I don't even.
Speaker 4: Know whether it's worth Maybe it's worth waiting for the
Speaker 4: team reveal. But Luke Jackson is in my forward line
Speaker 4: at the moment, so same deal. I've got pretty much
Speaker 4: all those guys. Luke Jackson is the only one that
Speaker 4: I've got there, and it's to have a bit more
Speaker 4: flexibility with this whole ruck situation, and two in my
Speaker 4: case having Matt Flinn R two to have an escape
Speaker 4: plan if it all goes wrong. I've got an archer
Speaker 4: read as the my R three instead of Harry Boyd. Obviously,
Speaker 4: if Boyd's named, I'll probably have to switch that up
Speaker 4: and get him in there. But I've got an archer
Speaker 4: read at R three, I'm going to switch around him
Speaker 4: and Luke Jackson. If Matt Flynn gets hurt for a
Speaker 4: couple of weeks, then I don't have to waste a
Speaker 4: trade in the rock line.
Speaker 1: That's really just high level stuff. Guys, who have you
Speaker 1: left out? Then?
Speaker 4: In the forward line, I've left no one out, so
Speaker 4: I've got them all. I've just don't have a run
Speaker 4: like Davidson and what I see Davidson, I think he'll
Speaker 4: be great. I've got him still just on the bench,
Speaker 4: but I'm just not trusting him on field to start with.
Speaker 4: I think that he scored fantastic, looked great. I'd rather
Speaker 4: just wait and see if I need to shuffle that around,
Speaker 4: I can immediately just make some changes. Put Flynn in flex, putstartis. Admit,
Speaker 4: it's really high level stuff, guys.
Speaker 1: So not trusting you know, there's eyes that CaCO there
Speaker 1: as well. We know scored wellknd of Stone from the
Speaker 1: Giants now has got a sixty four point score in
Speaker 1: his rolling average. Probably more of a bench option now
Speaker 1: that he's got that score in there. Joe Barry down
Speaker 1: album is going to play Tom Lynch Thursday Night Looks
Speaker 1: on track to play one, a K A few options there,
Speaker 1: you're happy leaving them all off? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think if Sam Davidson comes off and like he's
Speaker 4: the one I trust the most and I'm happy, Like
Speaker 4: I said, I can easily just shuffle things around a
Speaker 4: bit with my vast amount of DPPs and get him
Speaker 4: on field. That's where I'm kind of just my thinking is,
Speaker 4: I want that flexibility. I want to have rookies that
Speaker 4: can play, but I don't have to rely on them.
Speaker 4: That's kind of where this old strategy is beautiful.
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful, beautiful Have you changed five names anything
Speaker 1: in the Ford line? I like five names? It's very
Speaker 1: sure with his thinking back yourself in ye, well like
Speaker 1: it second guessing? Oh, can't wait see your team on
Speaker 1: Thursday night. I just want to see where it goes
Speaker 1: from here. It's taken a new path over the weekend.
Speaker 4: Can I just elaborate on my Luke Jackson pick, because
Speaker 4: that's probably just second guessing. You're just looking at it
Speaker 4: on face value, probably sounds disgusting. But look, if Shawn
Speaker 4: Darcy misses a few weeks, this is the start.
Speaker 1: Of his season.
Speaker 4: He's got Sam to coning round one, which I think
Speaker 4: could be monumental.
Speaker 1: We don't think Lean Red is going to ruck anymore.
Speaker 4: If he does, Jackson's goning to get enough time. He's
Speaker 4: got Grundy round two. At the time when I brought
Speaker 4: him in, I did think that was going to be
Speaker 4: no Grundy West Coast Round three?
Speaker 1: Does Flint player? Does Flint not play tim English? Round four?
Speaker 4: That's a I think that four pack of teams right
Speaker 4: there is solid. The other thing I like about Luke
Speaker 4: Jackson is he is a forward, and probably I think
Speaker 4: the last couple of years he's been a top six
Speaker 4: forward just without even trying, really, he's just always been there. Yes,
Speaker 4: it's usually based on him playing soul ruck for a while.
Speaker 4: This season there's word that he's going to play as
Speaker 4: a midfielder as well as a forward as well as
Speaker 4: a ruck. I think I don't know if we've really
Speaker 4: seen that before, a guy that's going to play midfield,
Speaker 4: ruck and forward. I think he's probably saved for a
Speaker 4: ninety five to one hundred plus and puts him in
Speaker 4: the frame as a top six forward. So, like I said,
Speaker 4: it's a bit of cover for my ruck, it's a
Speaker 4: bit of cover for my forward.
Speaker 1: It's a bit of as well. I don't mind it.
Speaker 2: I don't mind it.
Speaker 1: The theory is there, Yeah, thank you, interesting, thank you.
Speaker 1: Should we move on? We should? We should move on?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 4: Well, that was pretty much a lot of our stuff
Speaker 4: we're talking about there. We've talked about the flex as well.
Speaker 4: The most popular flex picks according to the data, Matt
Speaker 4: Flynn ten point five eight percent. So that's the top.
Speaker 4: So that's, you know, not necessarily just a massive obvious
Speaker 4: pick in the flex, Matt Flinn. We still don't know
Speaker 4: the best way to use it, do it. We're still
Speaker 4: going to I like this, Look how low the percentages
Speaker 4: after number two It goes all the way down to
Speaker 4: five point nine to one percent people.
Speaker 1: Using Levi Ashcroft there.
Speaker 4: WHYSA CaCO is the next one two point five eight
Speaker 4: five five percent, So we're really dropping down now. Then
Speaker 4: it's Sartus never never Sheldrick's probably going to drop off
Speaker 4: there a little bit, Fino Sullivan. So it's a rookie,
Speaker 4: a rookie, Miss Mitch Mash. Bit of Caleb Daniel in there,
Speaker 4: if we drop a little bit further, but clearly the
Speaker 4: favorite at the moment, Matt Flynn to your point. So
Speaker 4: people are probably enjoying the same combo as you, guys,
Speaker 4: i'd imagine, and Matt Flynn in there at the flex.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a few questions here on X at the Phantom
Speaker 1: Messy get involved in the show every week. One for you, Dossi, yep,
Speaker 1: Given what you've just told us, Bruno says, is it
Speaker 1: worth starting a couple of super expensive players such as
Speaker 1: Gorn and Cherry simply for good captaincy options? What are
Speaker 1: you going to do for captaincy with given you're not
Speaker 1: starting the big end guys, do you have a plan?
Speaker 4: You worried about that side of it. Now, if this
Speaker 4: is the Breno, I know, I was just going to
Speaker 4: have to look, have a look. I don't think he
Speaker 4: wants my opinion. He's a bit of a Dossi hater.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to I don't think it's that Bruno.
Speaker 1: That Bruno used to have a go hippie as well,
Speaker 1: long time long time fans of Shower as well.
Speaker 4: Look, I just got a sense to check this one. Okay,
Speaker 4: I think we're safe. Breno alright, Sorry, sorry about that.
Speaker 4: I think my I'm going to just back in a
Speaker 4: bit of a VC on Tom to Conning to Coning,
Speaker 4: sorry to start the season with the VC. He plays
Speaker 4: the early game, a couple of eight games in a row,
Speaker 4: had that massive ceiling on him last year. So for
Speaker 4: me Tom to Coning and then fall back into Andrew
Speaker 4: Brashaw type one of my top you know, one of
Speaker 4: the players I have paid a reasonable amount for. I've
Speaker 4: also got a Jordan Dawson in there. He or Brashaw
Speaker 4: would probably be my fallback with Tom to Coning hopeful
Speaker 4: for that ceiling score and then you know, maybe use
Speaker 4: one of those potentially a little doughnut on the bench to.
Speaker 1: Loop that over. I'm nervous for him there.
Speaker 2: End of really bad.
Speaker 1: No Neil, no cherry, no cheesel. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Sometimes when you just think, just approach things a little different,
Speaker 4: it's going to be a good show.
Speaker 3: You just overthink it and you think you're like a genius,
Speaker 3: and then like by thinking you're a genius and thinking
Speaker 3: you're too clever.
Speaker 1: Yeah that sums up perfect. Yeah, you're just three so
Speaker 1: over happy, happy with that assessment. Quick question here short
Speaker 1: answers Neil a primo and a rookie, So say Neil
Speaker 1: and Mirsa Swett to say or Neil and James Lake
Speaker 1: or two value primos, so Callahan and Day or Callahan
Speaker 1: and Jayden Short do you think I know we've spoken
Speaker 1: about why and you would and why you wouldn't pick
Speaker 1: those guys, But back the structure in this convers in
Speaker 1: this question here big name rookie, a big name primo
Speaker 1: and rookie, all the two mid price guys.
Speaker 2: As depends on their buy with the guards, you said, like,
Speaker 2: I think the fact that Kneels now, yeah, they didn't
Speaker 2: play last weekend. You know, to worry about that, it
Speaker 2: becomes a lot more appealing as an option. You have
Speaker 2: to worry. You're not You're not worrying.
Speaker 3: You know, it's not the end of the world if
Speaker 3: you just say, if you start with back yourself in
Speaker 3: you go with Callahan, but he's four hundred and forty
Speaker 3: k or whatever. Neil, You've got your top lightly, your
Speaker 3: top line guys missing when everyone else is.
Speaker 2: You know, in those early.
Speaker 1: Rounds, lean on that with you. Dossive one for you
Speaker 1: from Benji Bailey. Smith still got him, but now lack
Speaker 1: of info in his role preseason, not missing the official
Speaker 1: Amy series game, a bit skeptical on him. Could he
Speaker 1: be subbed out early potentially are we still on Bailey Smith?
Speaker 1: You're not worried.
Speaker 4: I think if he's I will know if he's named.
Speaker 4: If he's named, I'm going to be picking him regardless,
Speaker 4: I think. I think that's an easy decision for me.
Speaker 4: I think the alternative if he doesn't perhaps get named
Speaker 4: for whatever reason, I think we've got a couple of
Speaker 4: nice options there, like do you back in a Riley
Speaker 4: Sanders who's just a little bit cheaper, or do you
Speaker 4: just if you didn't have one of those rookies on field,
Speaker 4: you just punter and go. You know, whether it's a
Speaker 4: CaCO you didn't have on field, whether it's a Davidson
Speaker 4: who you'd had on the bench, or perhaps you know,
Speaker 4: just another player. I'd perhaps think about that. But for me,
Speaker 4: if he's known, he's infa me yep Riley Sins I
Speaker 4: think would be the replacement for me as well. So
Speaker 4: it's probably some big calls to be made. What's It
Speaker 4: All Live? Thursday Night? The Live show as well?
Speaker 1: Another question to finish off with here from our lovely
Speaker 1: Lair family, Steve Smith could Ork might not be Australian
Speaker 1: then Nick Captain Sam lawla if name round one. Do
Speaker 1: we fit him into our sides? Spider Names maybe on
Speaker 1: the bench. I would be really hesitant about starting now, Chief, Yes,
Speaker 1: you've got him into you. Ye, he's in.
Speaker 4: He was in fact going to be my because currently
Speaker 4: under ten percent owned, at least or round round about
Speaker 4: ten percent.
Speaker 1: I think that'll skyrocket, to be honest, but will tell
Speaker 1: us about him, oakes On, he's your pod, your point
Speaker 1: of difference from the hip hipster's not a round five
Speaker 1: Names owns the segment. Now we're going to do a
Speaker 1: little segment to finish off, aren't we. Okay, well, I'll
Speaker 1: bring in another player. I'll talk about Sam Laula quickly.
Speaker 1: Then I'll bring another player tape. We could do this properly.
Speaker 4: Sam Lawler, though around ten percent owned, I would personally
Speaker 4: pay up the big dollars for him. And it's only
Speaker 4: from a little glimpse. I saw again the Mighty Beagles
Speaker 4: in a in a pre season pre preseason match. Was
Speaker 4: Eliot's part by the plane. I think he might have
Speaker 4: been Yeah, that was that might have been the worst. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think in their lineup, job security is massive. We've
Speaker 4: heard today he played in the final sort of match
Speaker 4: hit out or a match sim game we are recording
Speaker 4: on a Monday afternoon. The news was that he played
Speaker 4: in a full hit out, no no contact cap wearing
Speaker 4: on their playing full hitout And yeah, I just think
Speaker 4: he's going to have a nice role split between mid
Speaker 4: and forward.
Speaker 1: And I feel like every number.
Speaker 4: One pick that we've had recently that plays in a midfield,
Speaker 4: forward or mid essentially he's a mid.
Speaker 1: At heart role eventually becomes a guy that we want.
Speaker 4: I think if he plays enough forward, he'll be he'll
Speaker 4: get that forward DPP nice and early job security, job security,
Speaker 4: job security for rookies. Feel like he'll actually have some
Speaker 4: fieldable scores on field. From what I saw, he looked exceptional,
Speaker 4: So he's nice. We saw, you know, Finn Callahan number
Speaker 4: two pick. We had some questions on at the end
Speaker 4: of the day. Number two pick. Guys, this guy's the
Speaker 4: number one as well, So just factoring that's the scouting
Speaker 4: usually pre spot on guys, who's your other pot? Then
Speaker 4: for kick us off, shooting from the hit the first
Speaker 4: official segment of the year, Shooting from the hip. Our
Speaker 4: points of difference, that is what we go by here
Speaker 4: on the lair.
Speaker 1: Spread.
Speaker 4: I'm going with Sam de Coning as my point of
Speaker 4: difference and team both of the I'm going both Da Cony.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about defenders. Earlier, three hundred and sixty one
Speaker 4: K did not put up a good performance in the
Speaker 4: tri match. Everyone's jumped off. He's only look, I said,
Speaker 4: under ten percent. He's ten point four percent owned defender
Speaker 4: eligible three hundred and sixty K. He's going to be
Speaker 4: playing in the ruck. Dan Batton over in Geelong, He's
Speaker 4: saying he's going to be playing in the ruck. He's
Speaker 4: been training up for all pre season to do so.
Speaker 4: Sam to Coning for me my point of difference.
Speaker 1: It's only been seven days since we've been in here,
Speaker 1: five days. What has happened to the chief? He said,
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened on a long weekends at
Speaker 1: this time of year for me full to pieces as
Speaker 1: the new owner of the segment, he overtook from our
Speaker 1: man the hipster. I did they fright? Good night him
Speaker 1: literally and then in the segment, what have you got
Speaker 1: for us?
Speaker 3: Because I've been so prominent in this, I've kind of
Speaker 3: told you all min yeads like you know, it's what
Speaker 3: It's still a pod, no way, isn't Fraser obviously still
Speaker 3: be on here, but still got there.
Speaker 1: You've stuck your guns. Preasure is a pod still.
Speaker 3: I mean bray Shaw's man too, like damn. I mean
Speaker 3: I've kind of just given you all the gold.
Speaker 1: Fair fair you come into your own when we get
Speaker 1: to trading.
Speaker 2: Yes, where we had to trade in next week, but
Speaker 2: actually don't want not actually want to. I want to
Speaker 2: bring up just one people monitor at the moment after
Speaker 2: this is by Josh Kelly, just for a little one
Speaker 2: to always monitor. Here's a guy we always know can store,
Speaker 2: has been able to store well in the past. Just
Speaker 2: needs that.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying do it, saying maybe just want to monitor,
Speaker 3: especially if everyone's going Callahan, you know all the hyps
Speaker 3: around Callahan to kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Maybe just Kelly could run it back.
Speaker 1: We go fans round us out here. I don't really
Speaker 1: have any pods.
Speaker 2: Your vanilla Vanilla fan.
Speaker 1: That's what happens when you know, when you're the fan,
Speaker 1: people listen to you. They start they start picking the
Speaker 1: same team. It's a compliment people listening, Dossie. But I'll
Speaker 1: tell you who my lowest own play is at the moment.
Speaker 1: Tell you two ten point two percent of teams obviously
Speaker 1: they're not listening to us any more about this guy.
Speaker 1: James Peeling Wow, good fall down. He good four under
Speaker 1: ten with the will Days, the Callahans, the rookies are
Speaker 1: being named. He could be under ten percent pod. I'm
Speaker 1: sticking with him three point fifty two k. He didn't
Speaker 1: do a lot or wasn't massive in Damous Hues game
Speaker 1: against Brisbane led the Croziers seat for the possessions in
Speaker 1: that center about smixed. Going to be in the first
Speaker 1: choice every time, although he did start against Brisbane, but
Speaker 1: so that opportunity for him. We've seen he can score
Speaker 1: in his limited game time up in Western Sydney, so
Speaker 1: I'm backing him in Danes orco even as well. So
Speaker 1: Lolliams is a big pod, big high ceiling.
Speaker 2: This is going to absolutely blow up in your face.
Speaker 1: One name we'll mention though, there's a bit of a
Speaker 1: pod to keep an eye on. If five names going
Speaker 1: down that path. James Warpole injured. If you want a
Speaker 1: bit of a cheaper option to your will Days, Ben
Speaker 1: Callahan's sixteen touches on Friday Night, eleven contested possessions stepped
Speaker 1: up when Warpoole went off cam McKenzie speaking about high
Speaker 1: draft picks ninety seven super coach points for him. We
Speaker 1: know he in the back end of last year I
Speaker 1: think I think it was around twenty four, had the
Speaker 1: career highest boss, then was injured, then couldn't get back
Speaker 1: in to the side for the finals. So we know
Speaker 1: we can play clean as a good super coach game.
Speaker 1: Could he be the beneficiary of wooput injury and maybe
Speaker 1: when will Da gets tagged, so Cam McKenzie keep an
Speaker 1: eye on him.
Speaker 4: Wow, pull to finish off. I reckon that's huge. Well,
Speaker 4: what's our final thoughts? You know, as we said, we'll
Speaker 4: be jumping on a few pods and streams and whatnot
Speaker 4: throughout the week. The lair, the final lair before the season.
Speaker 4: You guys think my team's falling apart, Fancy's gone full
Speaker 4: of vanilla sim sort of somewhere in the middle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 1: What do we any final advice?
Speaker 4: Any final thoughts on this mad preseason, the new flex everything,
Speaker 4: what sort of.
Speaker 1: Back yourself in I think, and just keep an eye
Speaker 1: out this week. Plenty of news is going to happen.
Speaker 1: The teams are going to dictate what we do. What
Speaker 1: rookie is a name what rookies aren't named, Have some
Speaker 1: backup plans. Go over your team the next few days.
Speaker 1: Have a look where you might pivot if something goes
Speaker 1: wrong at team selections. You don't want to be coming
Speaker 1: up with an alternative at six pm on Thursday night
Speaker 1: when someone's not named, just before the first bounce, So
Speaker 1: have some backup plans ready to go. Look at your
Speaker 1: team now.
Speaker 2: Also, don't schedule a haircut for Thursday night.
Speaker 1: Hipster ow Man, yep, if you are just joining us
Speaker 1: here in the Lair for the first time all the
Speaker 1: first season, our man the hipster almost a former former panelist,
Speaker 1: can't find hasn't been here. Got a haircut one night
Speaker 1: early in the Life of the Lair on a Thursday night,
Speaker 1: got a haircut rup before lockout. Panic, something happened at
Speaker 1: teams ended up with Ree Stanley. Stanley had a panic haircut,
Speaker 1: ran over just it was a mess, sums up, sums
Speaker 1: out our friend Gifters. So clear the time on Thursday
Speaker 1: night and come and find us. If you do live
Speaker 1: in Adelaide, the Chief will buy you will be if
Speaker 1: you come and find us and tell us you listen
Speaker 1: to the Lair, we'll be out somewhere somewhere, good luck,
Speaker 1: enjoy it, trust your gut.
Speaker 4: Don't let other people tell you what to do, like
Speaker 4: I won't let these guys.
Speaker 1: We'll see you on the other side.
Speaker 4: Goodbye.