WEBVTT - Paul Murray | 2 July 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:07.040 From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray live boy. Hello, 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:08.560 thank you so much. Do you want to show we 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:11.880 have for you tonight? Seriously some great stuff, great debate. 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:13.640 We'll get to that as always You've always send me 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:15.440 in my Paul. It's Gonews dot com dot you. But 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:17.239 a bunch of stuff that you may will not have 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:18.840 heard to this point in time. I think we're going 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:21.239 it breaks in new ground for you today. Now. One 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:24.439 of the great lines that Peter Dutton has been able 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:27.920 to use against this Prime Minister is that he's weak 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:31.600 and rattled. Now almost each every day there's an example 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:33.559 of the week and every couple of days as an 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:36.080 example of a bloke who is panicking that he's going 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:39.000 to lose his majority in the parliament. Now he is 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:43.720 confident that at the next election the teals will mean 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:45.159 there's not going to be a change of government. But 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:47.720 believe you me, if they're not a majority government, there 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:50.559 is going to be problems for Anthony Abernezi. Him and 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:55.240 his ministers are a little overly confident at times, a 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:58.240 little of the belief that they're there forever, but of 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:01.800 course nothing is forever. And one of the examples about 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:04.679 the weak and rattled nature of Anthony Abernezi is he 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:09.720 hasn't actually learnt the lesson that the last election was 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:13.760 just the last election, it's not the forever election. And 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:15.840 yes there's a moment where all the planets line up 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:19.119 and you get the result that you want. But three 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:21.440 years earlier the Labor Party didn't get the result that 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:24.520 they wanted in the so called miracle victory of Scott 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:27.319 Morrison that you and I saw coming. And who knows 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:29.760 exactly where we're going to land at the election, either 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:31.720 at the end of this year or early next year, 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:34.679 but I can tell you the idea of a government 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:39.520 being returned with its current majority well is pretty damn slim. 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:43.160 There's an indicies that I have been mentioning to you 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:46.120 for a long time now, because it has been building 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:50.120 for a long time, and I think mirrors our worldview 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:52.360 and certainly mine that I present to you each and 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:55.720 every evening that the Prime Minister's politics and spin and 0:01:55.760 --> 0:02:00.720 the gallery playing the narrative and the get Dutton is 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:04.920 not actually connecting with normal people. It's a pole which 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.920 comes out every couple of weeks. The Essential poll published 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:10.959 in the turbul Times otherwise known as the Guardian right track, 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:15.720 wrong track. Have a look at today, because today it 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:20.120 didn't just bust through fifty percent, it roared past half 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:23.200 of the country saying that we're in the wrong place. 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:30.280 Sixteen point turnaround from May of last year. The numbers 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:32.280 at times were even lower, of course at the very 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:35.520 start of the electoral cycle. But where we are now 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:38.240 more than half of the country believes we are headed 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.600 in the wrong direction. That's why I think weak and 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:45.400 rattled actually applies. Have a look. These are the numbers 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:50.120 which have stretched all the way past the last election, 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:52.400 all the way through to where we are today. The 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:56.440 blue line is the wrong track. It has been steadily building. 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:59.240 As I say, May of twenty twenty three is when 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.720 things started to a round. They held for a while, 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:05.760 they went up, they came ever so slightly down before 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:09.240 going back up again to basically fifty and then a 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:12.919 huge jump. Now, the reason this took place was because 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:16.560 of those inflation numbers. That is the big thing that 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:21.400 happened since the last pole. Now, if there's an ability 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:24.600 to slightly tweak the numbers or slightly ask different people questions, 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.920 that number may change by the next pole. But when 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.000 there's a big change in a poll. You think, well, okay, 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:34.240 what's happened now fifty to fifty which has become fifty 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.880 one to forty nine in favor of labor. Well, of 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:42.320 course that's the nuclear announcement. The number of undecideds has tightened. 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:44.480 That's going to be the issue for the opposition. But 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:48.440 what changed and went badly for the government it was 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:52.200 that inflation that they had promised they were dealing with 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:55.480 in actual fact had started to roar up again. Remember, 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.640 the Reserve Bank will make a decision on interest rates 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.320 in order to get the inflation figure between two and 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:06.520 three percent. It's currently four percent off the monthly numbers. Also, 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:10.360 the Prime Minister is weak and rattled because a very 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:13.680 significant number of Australians do not approve of his leadership. 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:19.200 Now again, this was something that in June of twenty 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.039 twenty two, a new prime minister, only eighteen percent of 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:24.480 people were disapproving of his approach to things. And we 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.640 were in that camp. I was well and truly in 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:29.719 that camp. Remember the countdown. I knew what this government 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:33.000 would be. I did not give it a benefit of 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:36.159 the doubt, because they use that benefit of the doubt 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:39.880 to build an arrogance that eventually gets them to where 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:45.880 they are today. Forty nine percent of people disapprove of 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:50.880 the Prime Minister's leadership. That is a phenomenal change since 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:57.320 the early parts of his Prime ministership. Now, principally it's 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:00.880 about cost of living. Principally, it's about a bloke who 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:07.080 does not take responsibility. Principally, it is about political solutions 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:09.840 to real life problems. And how often have I used 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:13.039 the term too little, too late when it comes to 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:19.000 the tax cuts? Well, guess what that worldview has now 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:22.800 made it all the way into the heart of the beast. 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:27.800 This question was asked of the Prime Minister tonight on 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:32.120 Channel two, a question that I have been placing as 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:36.640 too little, too late since all of these numbers started 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:42.160 getting fiddled with six seven months ago. We were right then, 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.280 we are right now, and we will be right into 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:47.479 the future. It is too little, it is too late, 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:51.240 and even the ABC brings it up with the Prime Minister. 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:52.239 Roll this tape. 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:55.800 For someone earning fifty thousand dollars, the tax cut's worth 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:58.960 just over seventeen dollars a week. Is that going to 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:02.719 alleviate the very clear suffering of thousands of Australians and 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.599 thousands more than last year who are now regularly accessing 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:06.640 food banks. 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:10.960 Too little, too late, because it is too little too late. 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:15.080 Huge reaction last night to people sending me emails and 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:18.000 also news stories around Emma who was on a current 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:22.280 affair last night. Her and her partner work ninety hours 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.839 a week. Yet they are the people who were promised 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:29.159 by this Prime minister a better world. But no that 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:33.919 on his watch week and rattled leader is not stepping. 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:42.760 Up pretty much nothing at all, not just the tax 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.479 cuts come in, but everything else that is armed. So 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:46.880 it's not justifiable. 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:48.520 So I know you're going to have this little extra 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.240 in your account each week, but as. 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:53.120 You just kind of pointed out, everything else is going 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.640 up at the same time, right including childcare. 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:00.400 Yes, that's one of the biggest things that has gone 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.440 up with our budget. We got an email a couple 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.320 of weeks ago saying that our daily rate is increasing 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:10.440 by seventeen dollars a day, which is quite a lot 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:13.720 realistically when you think about everything else going up, like 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:20.160 car insurance, food prices, fuel rent rates, all of that 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:20.920 type of stuff. 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:26.000 Every time we've talked about cost of living, start, middle 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:29.040 or end of the show Emma and people like her 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:32.000 other focus. I explained that in great detail last night. 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:35.120 I played again for you tonight. Because fifty four percent 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:38.600 of the country is like Emma, is like you, is 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:40.880 like me. They think the joint is headed in the 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.800 wrong direction. They think it's headed in the wrong direction 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:47.040 for a whole bunch of different reasons. But the single 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:50.240 biggest change that has happened since that industy was under 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:53.680 fifty percent and is now at fifty four percent is 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:58.080 because this government is failing on inflation. Its solution to 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:01.480 the problems last year was to take fifteen hundred dollars 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:06.400 away from ten million workers, ten minium workers like Emma. 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:11.120 They now want credit for handing back crumbs off the table. Well, 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:13.560 guess what. People won't give it to them. But they 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.720 also won't change your government unless the opposition actually has 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:19.360 a solution to their problem, not just saying what the 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:21.320 problem is. They actually have to say what is their 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:23.600 solution to cost a living Now at some point they're 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:25.240 going to have to serve that up before the election. 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:28.679 But these people are winnable because they have been lied 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:32.120 to by the Labor Party, lied to about energy, lied 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:36.679 to about inflation, lied to about tax cuts. These people 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.520 are willing to move because they are angry and they 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:43.160 are desperate. And the Prime Minister's spin and the canber 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.800 press gallery trying to pretend that it's anything but this 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.959 is the biggest issue in the country, means they are 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:51.360 ripe for moving. We'll all find out what happens at 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:54.400 an election whenever it comes. It's Prime Minister's decision, obviously 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.600 not ours when that happens. So when it comes to energy, 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:00.480 as you know, the opposition is where well and truly 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.160 in the nuclear camp. Their belief is that the system 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:07.000 is essentially one where the existing sites of power stations 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:10.360 get replaced and turned into nuclear generation. It's a plug 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.079 in and play system, you don't have to rewire the 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:17.080 nation and it costs less than the renewables. Of course, 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.120 when it comes to nuclear we have the scenario where 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:21.679 Peter Dutton is all in its. 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:25.360 Likely disruption to power, which means not just that your 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:27.839 fridge goes off at home, but that the could rooms 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:31.239 go off at the supermarket, that we don't have reliable 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.680 energy for the manufacturing process, so jobs are lost in 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:38.079 the Australian economy. Why would we tolerate that situation. That's 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:40.439 why I think we need to have a proper, mature 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:45.000 discussion about how we migrate to a new energy system 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.160 where we can have renewables that are firmed up by 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:51.400 zero mission's latest generation nuclear technology. 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:53.640 But as you know, the Prime Minister thinks that this 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:57.360 will save his political bacon by pretending that three eyed 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:01.160 Koalas and all of that will move people all. 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:03.360 The time when the rest of us are working to 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:06.679 get power bills down. He's picked the one option guaranteed 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:08.840 to priss power prices up. 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:16.520 What Chris power price is up? The economics of nuclear 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:17.760 do not stack up. 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:23.080 That doesn't worry those opposite. They spent a decade in 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:26.440 power without a single surface and then left Australia with 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:28.360 a trillion dollars of debt. 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.559 Yeah, because job keeper wasn't a thing. I think that 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.840 the Labor Party wanted to be bigger. And remember they 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:37.480 wanted us to buy an airline. Please they of course, 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:39.520 we'll take it up to one point two trillion dollars 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:41.960 in debt, but don't tell anyone. And of course we 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:43.920 know the Prime Minister is all in when it comes 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.520 to renewables and the building of them, despite the fact 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:49.559 that the CSIOO toll is at one point it was 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:51.000 going to be more than a trillion dollars. Now it's 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:53.800 half a trillion dollars and the cost of nuclear is 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:57.280 way less than half a trillion dollars. But don't tell anyone. 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:01.280 But fascinating again, more of this polling which comes out today. 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:03.760 And I do appreciate the detail that they make publicly 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:06.760 available to people, even though I'm sure they love that. 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.160 I use this detail to make our points as regularly 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:11.640 as we do. But I want you to think before 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:13.720 I show you the pole. Where do you think most 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:18.199 Australians get their information about this issue? How are they 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:21.840 putting two and two together about whether the government is 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:25.880 trying to race as far as it can down its pathway, 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:30.440 or that that pathway is foolish and there is a 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:35.880 better option. Would you think that it's scientists or government 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:42.360 experts or political figures. According to this polling, No, Almost 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:46.920 eighty percent of people trust their friends and family on 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:50.360 this issue. How much do you trust the following sources 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.880 of information when it comes to providing accurate information about 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:56.200 energy transition? Now you put together the two blues, which 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:57.680 is where you trust a little bit, or you trust 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:01.320 a lot, and then you end up with seventy nine 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:05.840 percent of people having a conversation at home. This is 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:09.240 why it's so important to what shows like this to 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:13.120 commit to channels like ours to get information because my 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:15.840 belief is that while we have this conversation, I know 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:18.160 there's lots of other stuff on the Tellian, there's lots 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.720 of other people doing other things. But the information, the 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.240 data that I try to give you here is all 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:27.679 about arming you with the tools to have the conversations 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:32.760 with your families. Now, this was also the major source 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:35.480 of information when it came to people about the voice 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.360 last year. All of the experts, all of the media, 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:40.120 we all know where they were. Well, of course we 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:42.760 all know where it ended up. Now this is really 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:47.000 fascinating here because we have a scenario where obviously that 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:51.920 information isn't all uniformally pro nuclear or pro renewables. But 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.960 if this is the big source of information, then the 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:57.320 people you have to convince, the people who have the 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:01.200 power are you to have the conversation with your mates 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.520 and with your family. Put it up again, because the 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:08.720 next best community members and spokespeople. Now I'm not entirely 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:13.000 sure what that means, but your local community groups potentially 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:17.640 having issues with offshore wind or more solar, perhaps that's 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.040 what people are turning to. And then it starts to 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:23.000 fall away. Yes, the majority of people do trust the 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:27.040 information that comes from government agencies, but that is still 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:30.360 well below the number. So the CSIRO and their numbers, 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:34.160 which are obviously thrown around a lot dwarfed to the 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:37.640 information that people are finding out on their own researching 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:40.760 and their own and having the discussion at home. The 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:45.679 least trusted the federal government. That's the third from the bottom. 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:50.520 I repeat, the federal government is the least trusted source 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:54.440 of information about the energy transition. All of that feeds 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:58.839 back into a country that believes by fifty four percent 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:01.560 we're in the wrong direction. Action means lots of different things. 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:04.680 I think you can conclude that when it comes to 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:07.680 the two seventy five promise that never happened, the over 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:12.880 commitment towards renewables, the obsession with cutting x percent of 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.720 one percent of the world's global emissions, where all of 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.679 course China it can be thirty times more polluting than 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:23.600 we are and nothing gets measured until twenty thirty. It 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:26.720 can be the handling of the immigration system, lots of 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.080 different things, but people believe the joints centered in the 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:33.160 wrong direction. That number has only grown since this government 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:36.160 came to power and does what it does. The Prime 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:44.480 Minister's disapproval numbers have only become more serious the longer 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:49.320 his stays in power. Now, people who will defend a 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.640 certain type of politics or certain type of politician or 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:53.560 certain type of party will say, well, but it's just 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.120 one part. Yeah, but the trend is clear. The trend 0:14:56.200 --> 0:15:00.000 is clear disapproval of the Prime Minister's leadership and fifty 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:01.600 twy four percent of people saying we're headed in the 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:05.120 wrong direction. And that's why when we do the documentaries 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.680 that we do here, we do the editorials in our programs, 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:09.800 we have the discussions that we do. I am so 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.240 thankful that you are here each and every night. I'm 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:15.040 so thankful that we share the information, and then you're 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:17.920 able to share the information with friends and family who 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:21.080 ultimately make the decisions when it comes to the polsters 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:24.400 first and then at the polling booth. Each and every time, 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.720 nothing is inevitable. We say it for a long time, 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:30.840 and that's because off of the real world is a 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:33.160 very different place than where most of the media and 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:37.080 certainly the politicians would pretend they are the most important 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:42.040 people in it. Now, a couple of little things to 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:46.400 say about the most recent movements in and around the 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:49.640 Senator from Western Australia is stepping slowly but surely out 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:51.440 of the Labor Party. But I want to get to 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:55.680 some again data which kind of is going to pour 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:57.840 some cold water on this idea that the Muslim vote 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.440 is about to run away from the Labour Party. As 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:03.560 you know, of course, outside of the Parliament, Senator Payment 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:09.240 is someone who as we know, was effectively not quite 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:12.840 booted out of the Labor Party officially, but she's not 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:15.080 really talking to any of her colleagues. She's not allowed 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:16.760 to meet with any of her colleague She's getting the 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:20.680 formal version of the cold shoulder after crossing the floor. 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:25.160 But before I talk about her apparent moves towards considering 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:31.160 some sort of weaponization of the Islamic community for political purposes, 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:33.160 can we just deal with a little bit of each 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:35.640 way elbow, Because there was a bit of spin. I 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:37.040 meant to get to it last night, but there was 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:40.040 so much other information and I did quickly mention it 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.120 in the debate last night with Steve with the Sam Crosman. 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:45.760 But have a look at the spin that the Prime 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:51.680 Minister put on why he permanently suspended this senator for 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:56.000 crossing the floor. It wasn't because of Palestine, it wasn't 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:58.120 because of her vote, but it was because she was 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:02.640 a distraction from the two little too late tax cuts. Well, 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:06.760 unsurprisingly that didn't really float with anyone. But these were 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:09.040 the excuses. He didn't ever want to punish her. He 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:11.320 ended up having to punish her. Remember, he wanted to 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:13.479 slap on the wrist, but he had to punish because 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:15.640 the colleague said, hang on one rule for everyone. That's 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:19.120 kind of the point of the way we do things. Well, 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:23.119 now he's out and about and apparently saying people saying 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:26.879 of him that he's shown strength in restraint by not 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:30.840 expelling her further. So firstly he apparently put it on 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:33.000 one side because she was a political distraction. But now 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.199 he's amazing because he hasn't booted her out of the 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:37.719 party because of what she did. That would be what 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:41.360 we call each way albo, right, which is it it's 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:44.520 about the Palestine vote, or it's not about the Palestine vote. 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:48.120 But let's get to this concept of the Muslim vote, 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:49.920 whether the Labour Party is about to lose it or 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.440 could be punished by it, all the rest of it. Now, 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:55.800 as you know, certain sections of the Arab community and 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:58.320 the non Arab community of course, had been marching quite 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:04.919 relentlessly in support of people in Palestine by proxy. Some 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:08.439 people have been doing so because they are happy with 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:10.320 what her Mass has done, and some are doing it 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:13.639 specifically because of course they are not happy with what 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:18.320 Israel has been doing. But this group also occupies an 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.280 awful lot of noise in the media and online, which 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:24.879 is why you get a senator from Western Australia crossing 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:28.240 the floor to vote with the Greens on essentially a 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:31.240 one state solution, not a two state solution. But you've 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:35.280 heard all of this. Now, what is fascinating is in 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:40.200 the past couple of days this person has been kind 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:43.440 of winging about getting the cold shoulder from the organization 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:45.679 of which she joined. And we all know where this 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:47.080 is going to end up, which is that she's either 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:49.960 going to end up as an independent. She of course 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:55.040 has got another four years left in the Senate before 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:57.040 she'd have to go up for reelection or should go 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:59.240 out and join the Greens. Now I don't think you're 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:01.440 going to go and join the Green because I'll get 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:03.879 to that reason in a second. But you may well 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:07.119 have also heard that potentially there have been some discussions 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:11.360 happening behind the scenes with Glenn Duruy, the Preference Whisperer, 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:14.080 to try to work out is there a way to 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:16.480 crowd a new political force, one that of course at 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:19.560 its heart and center, would have the key issues that 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:21.800 she has been talking about that are forcing her breakup 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:26.439 with the Labor Party. But okay, if that's the case, 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:31.200 remember she's from Western Australia. How many people in Western 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:33.560 Australia would have Gaza as kind of the a one 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:36.439 issue one where they want to punish the Labor Party 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:39.000 and they think the Greens aren't even good enough. Well, 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:41.280 let's look at the census. Two point five percent of 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.720 Western Australians listed their religion in the most recent census 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:51.040 as being Islamic. Fourteen percent of the vote voted Green, 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:56.600 yet it only produced one senator. Now, those existing senators 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:57.960 are hardly going to get out of the way for 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:02.480 her to have a new spot, and it's very unlikely 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:06.840 that the preferences that you would need to pull together 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:12.040 to eventually become a Senator would be able to get 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:16.720 you there. If they're not Labor, who obviously wouldn't send 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:20.200 her anything, Liberals who obviously wouldn't send her anything, one 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:23.240 Nation who obviously wouldn't send her anything. You're notited Australian 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:27.320 Party who obviously wouldn't send her anything. And the Greens 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:31.080 only just get enough of a vote to get one person. 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:33.080 So even if she got all of the Greens preferences 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:39.320 and the Socialists preferences and whatever the invented parties might be, 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:42.159 the likelihood of her being able to get into the 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:46.000 Senate at a normal half Senate election, not the Malcolm 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:52.679 Turnbull genius half the quota, it's pretty unlikely. But interestingly, 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:55.160 here we keep hearing that the Muslim vote is now 0:20:55.320 --> 0:21:00.479 going to move from just protesting at the Labour Party, 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:04.480 but apparently there's a particular focus maybe on four specific 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:08.440 MPs to try to get rid of those Labor MPs 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:13.119 at the next federal election. The reason the fuse that 0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:16.760 lights the fire, yes is what's happening in Gaza. But 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:19.680 specifically they're going to try to use this senator issue 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:23.320 to be the reason the Islamic community is apparently going 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:27.280 to hold as Bowler's move away from the Labor Party 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:34.159 and either towards a series of independence rather than the Greens, 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:36.680 who already have the same position that all of those 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:41.000 independence would end up having. How do I know because 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:43.440 this bloke told Channel nine so. 0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:50.120 How Anthony Albernizi has treated senator payment. It is disgusting, 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:53.480 It is deplorable, and we expected a lot better. 0:21:53.720 --> 0:21:58.240 Marmoodh Willa says he's advising a collection of Muslim organizations tonight, 0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:03.160 vowing to target for Amps in multicultural seats, including two 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:04.720 members of cabinet, whether. 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:08.000 She forms her unpiety, whether she becomes an independent, whether 0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:11.000 she goes to the Green. She has the Arab, Muslim 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:12.920 and past ten and communities support. 0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:16.320 Okay, so you're gonna hear a lot about this. It 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:18.800 was a big obsession with the seven point thirty report 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:20.960 when they were talking with Elbow. But let's actually have 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:23.560 a look right. Apparently the seats. Now they claim that 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:27.440 they've got a significant capacity to impact about twenty different seats, 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:30.680 but according to that report on Channel nine, the four 0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:34.399 seats that would be of particular focus for whatever this 0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:39.119 movement may be. Well, the seats are Blackslain, Watsman where 0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:42.640 are were and Wills Blackslan Watson where we're all in Sydney, 0:22:42.680 --> 0:22:47.000