Speaker 1: Why on Skyn's Australia.
Speaker 2: This is to Nika Degeorgio, Hello and welcome to the
Speaker 2: show coming up tonight.
Speaker 3: The Liberals ditch net zero.
Speaker 2: Now the hard work begins for Susan Lee taking.
Speaker 3: Up the fight to labor on power prices. A ridiculous
Speaker 3: report calls for softer.
Speaker 2: Bail laws, more proof labor is completely disconnected from community expectations.
Speaker 2: Plus the BBC caught out again with a second show
Speaker 2: doctoring Donald Trump's January sixth address. But first tonight, day
Speaker 2: one of the Liberal Party's hard sell on energy has begun.
Speaker 2: Opposition leader Susan Lee was up early on the front
Speaker 2: foot on Breakfast TV, explaining why the party had to
Speaker 2: dump net zero twenty fifty, a.
Speaker 4: Policy that delivers affordable energy and responsible emissions reduction. That
Speaker 4: we have to be agnostic about what technologies we bring
Speaker 4: to bear. We do very well at exporting that natural gas,
Speaker 4: but we're not using it for Australians and we believe
Speaker 4: in using those Australian resources for Australian families.
Speaker 3: First.
Speaker 2: Well, the message from the Liberal Party is clear, but
Speaker 2: they have to convert this decision into results and bring
Speaker 2: voters with them. And given this as a party that
Speaker 2: has not known for some time what it actually stands for.
Speaker 2: It's basically starting from the bottom again. Already the left
Speaker 2: have begun the climate hysteria, meltdowns and lies and this
Speaker 2: is what Susan Lee is going to face day in
Speaker 2: day out from the Greens, the Teals, labor and left
Speaker 2: wing parts of the media. They will demonize this as
Speaker 2: climate zealotry, and.
Speaker 3: Of course we know it's just not the case.
Speaker 2: The starting gun on energy policy has been fired and
Speaker 2: we are finally getting the debate we so desperately need,
Speaker 2: allowing voters you at home, a chance to have the
Speaker 2: say on how we keep the lights on in this country.
Speaker 2: Do we continue down a tricky pathway into the never
Speaker 2: never via Labour's experiment of renewables only, or do we
Speaker 2: add cheap reliable energy into the mix through coal, nuclear
Speaker 2: and gas to keep the lights on. You now get
Speaker 2: to decide. And that is why the hard cell matters
Speaker 2: now more than ever before, because this is the sort
Speaker 2: of nonsense already being peddled. Haven't listened to the Prime
Speaker 2: Minister this morning?
Speaker 5: We're seen a capitulation by the Liberal Party to the
Speaker 5: policy that was announced effectively by the National Party. Susan
Speaker 5: Lee has said that she would be a moderate and
Speaker 5: that she'd modernize the Liberal Party's agenda after their twenty
Speaker 5: twenty five result. Instead, she's chosen to take Australia backwards.
Speaker 5: They're walking away from climate action. They fundamentally dismissive of
Speaker 5: the science of climate change.
Speaker 2: Look, the Prime Minister is running scared for the first time.
Speaker 2: His energy policies are back on the agenda. His science
Speaker 2: simply does not stack up. Australia is too small of
Speaker 2: a player to have any climate impact.
Speaker 3: So in essence, the.
Speaker 2: Coalition has forced his hand on this because he's going
Speaker 2: to have to confront his own policies, which have seen
Speaker 2: our bills go up by forty percent. Then there was
Speaker 2: former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, still suffering from an acute
Speaker 2: case of relevance deprivation syndrome.
Speaker 6: You know, with the Liberal Party room that think they've
Speaker 6: got the memory of goldfish in the dining habits of Piranhas.
Speaker 1: They're just they forgot.
Speaker 6: They seem to just keep on forgetting and making the
Speaker 6: same mistake.
Speaker 1: Again and again.
Speaker 6: But do not just sound like an echo for Alberanezi.
Speaker 6: But what he said to you about the energy economics
Speaker 6: is absolutely right and anyone in the industry knows that.
Speaker 2: Well, guess what, Malcolm, You are sounding like an echo
Speaker 2: chamber for the Labor Party.
Speaker 3: And here was Till and p o Legrispender on Sky News.
Speaker 7: What this does is it injects more uncertainty into investments
Speaker 7: that people are making, not for the next three years.
Speaker 1: But for decades at the same.
Speaker 7: Time, without providing a clear plan on actually how the
Speaker 7: coalition is planning to reduce to reduce prices and or
Speaker 7: emissions if they care or not care.
Speaker 3: Look, this is just wrong. How can she say this?
Speaker 2: The Financial Review held its Energy and Climate summit last month,
Speaker 2: and let me show you how the paper summed up
Speaker 2: the event. It said, quote Chris Bowen tells us the
Speaker 2: economics for investing in renewables remain utterly convincing.
Speaker 3: But new wind and solar farms have stalled.
Speaker 2: And we've heard about little other than challengers for the
Speaker 2: past two days. Why because industry needs certainty. But this
Speaker 2: highlights the key issue now for the liberals. Net zero
Speaker 2: is gone. Great, but is Susan Lee the leader who
Speaker 2: can defend all these attacks from the left and turn
Speaker 2: it around into an attack on labor and its horrendous
Speaker 2: energy policies. She says she.
Speaker 3: Can does this secure your leader?
Speaker 4: Susan Absolutely, and I'm determined to fight every day for Australians.
Speaker 2: Now, look, I think she's going to need a lot
Speaker 2: of help to sell this. There is no blueprint for
Speaker 2: the Liberal Party to follow on selling energy. In the
Speaker 2: dying days of this year's election, the word nuclear wasn't
Speaker 2: even mentioned. It was as if the policy which they
Speaker 2: took to the election never even existed, even though it
Speaker 2: was their boldest policy announcement in years.
Speaker 3: Everyone has to play a part.
Speaker 2: Now, why not bring Andrew Hasty and just sent a
Speaker 2: nampajimper Price back to the front bench. Who better to
Speaker 2: help sell dumping net zero than two politicians who have
Speaker 2: been arguing against it from the start. Senator Price knows
Speaker 2: how to successfully run a campaign. She proved that during
Speaker 2: the Voice, the formula then worked. Now, of course this
Speaker 2: is not the voice. This is very different and this
Speaker 2: is a very divided Liberal Party, with some moderates even
Speaker 2: today claiming they don't know if they can even sell
Speaker 2: the policy. But why not bring Senator Price and Andrew
Speaker 2: Hasty back and give yourself every chance possible of getting
Speaker 2: this right. It makes no sense to me to waste
Speaker 2: good talent at such a crucial time. Now, whether or
Speaker 2: not both would want to, whether they actually support Susan
Speaker 2: Lee as leader is a different story. But this is
Speaker 2: what the cell comes down to. When under Labour's plans,
Speaker 2: where we see household power wills actually come down.
Speaker 8: Well, what's very clear is that the upward pressure on
Speaker 8: electricity prices doesn't come from the new renewable, reliable, cleaner
Speaker 8: and cheaper energy.
Speaker 2: Can you actually provide a time from though?
Speaker 8: Now I'll leave the energy forecasting to others. We've made
Speaker 8: it very clear that we will give Australia the best
Speaker 8: chance of getting those electricity prices over time.
Speaker 2: Now, look, the Coalition must prosecute that day in, day out.
Speaker 2: Our economy relies on energy, Our livelihoods rely on energy,
Speaker 2: Our defense industry relies on energy. Now is the time
Speaker 2: to expose this nonsense being peddled by the Left because
Speaker 2: we are still waiting for our bills to come down.
Speaker 3: Well, Labour doesn't do.
Speaker 2: Energy policy, or migration policy, or economic policy, and the
Speaker 2: list goes on, and now it can add law and
Speaker 2: order to that list as it may seek to push
Speaker 2: what can only be described as an offender, first, victim
Speaker 2: last approach. According to the Australian Are report, authored by
Speaker 2: officials from every Commonwealth, state and territory government, is urging
Speaker 2: all jurisdictions to loosen their bail laws.
Speaker 3: Attorney General Michelle Roland.
Speaker 2: Is pushing to release this report, which recommends all governments
Speaker 2: insure bail laws explicitly provide that imprisonment be a last resort. Really,
Speaker 2: I mean this to me provides the perfect blueprint, doesn't
Speaker 2: it for any left wing guns across the country to
Speaker 2: adopt under the guise of recommendations to keep the hard
Speaker 2: left of the party happy, the inner city hippies happy,
Speaker 2: and to stop votes.
Speaker 3: Bleeding to the Greens. But here is the real kicker, and.
Speaker 2: This is the real reason for this report and it's
Speaker 2: all based on race based politics. The SAG Spail and
Speaker 2: romand Reform Working Groups report aims to reduce the gap
Speaker 2: in incarceration rates between Indigenous and non Indigenous Australians under
Speaker 2: the Closing the Gap Agreement.
Speaker 3: It calls for a requirement.
Speaker 2: That quote courts consider a person's status as an Aboriginal
Speaker 2: or Torres Strait islander before making a bail decision, so
Speaker 2: provisions for one group based on the color of their
Speaker 2: skin versus everyone else.
Speaker 3: Now, let's just deal with facts here.
Speaker 2: Indigenous Australians have a disproportionate incarcination rate, maybe because they
Speaker 2: commit a disproportionate amount of crime.
Speaker 3: Aboriginal and torrestrate Islander prisoners account.
Speaker 2: For thirty seven percent of all persons in custody, despite
Speaker 2: comprising just under four percent of the population.
Speaker 3: Now, this report.
Speaker 2: Suggests to me the comparatively high rates of Indigenous incarceration
Speaker 2: are driving this left wing agenda to loosen bail laws.
Speaker 3: So it's you at home, good law.
Speaker 2: Abiding citizens that could be exposed to criminal activity and
Speaker 2: out of control youths simply to reduce the gap in
Speaker 2: incarceration rates between Indigenous and non Indigenous Australians. Now, don't
Speaker 2: get me wrong, we need to work towards closing the gap,
Speaker 2: but that should not come at the expense of basic safety.
Speaker 3: Why should everyone have to suffer for it.
Speaker 2: Bail is a privilege, not a right, and quite frankly,
Speaker 2: I don't care if you're black, White, or Aboriginal. You
Speaker 2: commit a crime, you deserve to be punished, You deserve
Speaker 2: to learn your lesson. This is a youth crime crisis
Speaker 2: that we're seeing play out already across the country. So
Speaker 2: what example would be set if these kids knew that
Speaker 2: they can and we'll get away with anything, and let's
Speaker 2: not kid ourselves.
Speaker 3: It's already happening.
Speaker 2: Look at Victoria just into Allen's toughest bail laws in
Speaker 2: the country have been reminiscent of a marshmallow, and tough
Speaker 2: bail laws may as well be rendered useless. They only
Speaker 2: work if the justice system obliges. According to the agenda
Speaker 2: for a meeting of Attorneys General in Brisbane today, Michelle
Speaker 2: Roland wants her state and territory counterparts to publish this
Speaker 2: report with a caveat.
Speaker 3: Allowing them to not endorse it.
Speaker 2: But several states reportedly want it buried, and if it's
Speaker 2: made public, are expected to distance themselves from it. Queensland's
Speaker 2: Attorney generals certainly made that known this morning.
Speaker 9: Queensland will not be forced into backing down on our
Speaker 9: tough laws by the federal government.
Speaker 3: No way.
Speaker 9: If the Albanezy government think that they can push Queensland
Speaker 9: into ordering down our laws, absolutely not.
Speaker 2: And in a shock to no one, Victoria won't oppose
Speaker 2: the release of the report, but.
Speaker 3: Is unlikely to support all of.
Speaker 2: The recommendations, though it's unclear whether that state will agree
Speaker 2: to re establish the working group to undertake further work
Speaker 2: as is recommended. Now look Premier just Into Allen certainly
Speaker 2: doesn't need any more encouragement for her weight and see
Speaker 2: youth crime approach. But this report is more proof that
Speaker 2: labor is totally and utterly disconnected from community expectations. Nobody
Speaker 2: voted for race based politics. In fact, sixty percent of
Speaker 2: us said no to it. Well, the BBC over in
Speaker 2: the UK has done it again with its dodgy and
Speaker 2: deliberate editing of Donald Trump's January sixth speech. It's now
Speaker 2: been revealed a second show also doctor footage of the
Speaker 2: Capitol Hill speech and even ignored concerns that were raised
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 3: Its Newsnight program.
Speaker 2: Spliced footage of the speech, which aired in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 2: making it appear as though the President was encouraging his
Speaker 2: orders to riot.
Speaker 3: Have a look at this.
Speaker 2: We're going to.
Speaker 10: Cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and
Speaker 10: we fight.
Speaker 1: We fight like hell. We're going to.
Speaker 10: Cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and.
Speaker 11: We're probably not going to be cheering so much for
Speaker 11: some of them.
Speaker 2: Two totally different clips, insinuating two very different meanings. In fact,
Speaker 2: the second part of that clip on BBC Newsnight was
Speaker 2: delivered over fifty minutes after the first part. So, as
Speaker 2: I said, it's done it again, and you will call
Speaker 2: this tricky edit on its Panorama program that this week
Speaker 2: forced two of its executives to resign.
Speaker 11: We're going to walk down to the Capitol and I'll
Speaker 11: be there with.
Speaker 1: You, and we fight. We fight like hell.
Speaker 11: We're going to walk down to the Capitol and we're
Speaker 11: going to cheer.
Speaker 2: You're on our.
Speaker 10: Brave senators and congressmen and women.
Speaker 2: Now, the BBC has today apologized. It's chair Samir Shah,
Speaker 2: sent a personal letter to the White House, but claims
Speaker 2: there is no basis for a defamation suit.
Speaker 3: Have they watched the footage?
Speaker 2: The President has threatened to sue the pants off them,
Speaker 2: and why wouldn't he because there's a clear pattern here. Now,
Speaker 2: this is happening on the other side of the world,
Speaker 2: but back home, the ABC is not immune. The public
Speaker 2: broadcaster is just as institutionally biased, entrenched in ideology that
Speaker 2: only serves for people who seem to think that the
Speaker 2: majority of us are either stupid or racist. And my
Speaker 2: colleague Chris Kenny revealed this week that Four Corners did
Speaker 2: the same thing. It's managing director, Hugh Mark said, comparing
Speaker 2: the BBC's Panorama to the ABC's Four Corners program is
Speaker 2: opportunistic and false, claiming it to.
Speaker 3: Be powerful journalism of the highest standard.
Speaker 2: I mean, when was the last time you saw the
Speaker 2: public broadcaster here in Australia make a mistake that unfairly
Speaker 2: boosted a conservative politician. It just doesn't happen, and the
Speaker 2: ABC should be worried about what Trump might do. And
Speaker 2: after the BBC's second indiscretion, a spokesperson for President Trump's
Speaker 2: legal team said, quote, the BBC defamed President Trump by
Speaker 2: intentionally and deceitfully editing its documentary in order to try
Speaker 2: and interfere in the presidential election. President Trump will continue
Speaker 2: to hold accountable those who traffic in lies, deception and
Speaker 2: fake news. And it's not like Trump doesn't already have
Speaker 2: his eye on the ABC.
Speaker 12: Bet he appropriate President Trump that a president in offers
Speaker 12: should be engaged in so.
Speaker 1: Much business activity.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm really not.
Speaker 10: My kids are running the business and you know what
Speaker 10: the activity.
Speaker 11: Where are you from, I'm from the Australian Broadcasting Operation
Speaker 11: and Paul.
Speaker 10: Corn and provoking the Australias you're hurting Australia rate.
Speaker 11: In my opinion, you are hurting Australia very much right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, with two dodgy edits on the BBC, I
Speaker 2: think we can safely say Donald Trump is watching. Let's
Speaker 2: go straight to liberal MP Garth Hamilton. Now, Garth, good
Speaker 2: to see you, Thanks so much for joining me.
Speaker 3: Obviously net zero huge week.
Speaker 2: Was this just a compromise to keep everyone in the
Speaker 2: party happy because you're dumping net zero twenty fifty but
Speaker 2: you're staying in the Paris Agreement?
Speaker 3: How does that make sense?
Speaker 12: Well, Denika, I'm happy to report I didn't make much
Speaker 12: for a compromise. I've got everything I wanted, which was
Speaker 12: a full and complete dumping of net zero and that
Speaker 12: was the target for me. Look, the thing with Paris
Speaker 12: it doesn't have any implication on domestic policies. Whilst it
Speaker 12: might not be my favorite thing in the world, it
Speaker 12: can't control what's happening within Australia, so I don't.
Speaker 1: Share those concerns.
Speaker 12: We held the Paris Agreement for five years before we
Speaker 12: signed up to net zero, we would just fine then.
Speaker 12: I'm sure we'll be just fine.
Speaker 2: On the other side too, Are the Moderate's going to
Speaker 2: be a hindrance to this policy moving forward?
Speaker 13: Me?
Speaker 2: Some have even claimed today that they don't know whether
Speaker 2: they can sell this compromised policy.
Speaker 12: Come sure, they'll find a way, and I'm sure we'll
Speaker 12: join together as a team. Now we've got through this
Speaker 12: very difficult conversation and found the right answer. On the
Speaker 12: other side, I would point out to the moderates, for
Speaker 12: four years I was in that compromised position. I was
Speaker 12: against net zero whilst the party's position was for it,
Speaker 12: and I managed to prosecute that and hold my convictions.
Speaker 12: And I'd say to anyone who wants to continue their
Speaker 12: convictions of being pro net zero, there's a great place
Speaker 12: for that, and that's on the back bench where you
Speaker 12: get to express your views.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Look, I think that's an absolutely fair point. If you're
Speaker 2: not happy, go to the back bench. Absolutely perfect.
Speaker 3: Look, let's talk about the sell. How are you going
Speaker 3: to sell this energy policy? Now?
Speaker 2: How do you, in particular win over the inner city
Speaker 2: till seats and younger voters gen Z and millennials.
Speaker 3: How do you go about this?
Speaker 12: Look, I don't think this is something that we should
Speaker 12: shy away from it all and want to point out
Speaker 12: we haven't tried it before, we haven't actually prosecuted this
Speaker 12: case before. I think we can do it very easily
Speaker 12: just by simply talking to the economics, which is Labour's
Speaker 12: soft point. I mean, we've got a government that's been
Speaker 12: telling us for ages that the more renewable energy will
Speaker 12: lower our energy bills and it hasn't been. And the
Speaker 12: proof is in front of every single Australian every time
Speaker 12: they get their electricity bill. We know that they're wrong
Speaker 12: on this issue. We simply need to prosecute it. And
Speaker 12: the best part is other people have been trying to
Speaker 12: prosecute this with us. We saw that report from Princeton University, Queensland,
Speaker 12: University of Melbourne that showed the figure was around nine
Speaker 12: to seven trillion dollars to get to our targets.
Speaker 14: You break that down.
Speaker 12: On a monthly basis, it's twenty billion dollars a month.
Speaker 12: You know how you sell that in till seats, that's hospitals,
Speaker 12: that's schools, that's road upgrades, that's police stations, all the
Speaker 12: things that we need and we should be building to
Speaker 12: make Australia great, the things, quite frankly, that we've been
Speaker 12: leaving behind and should now become our priorities.
Speaker 3: Look, I agree to you very great.
Speaker 2: I think it's about going into those till seats and
Speaker 2: explaining that decision and pushing it forward over the next
Speaker 2: few years between now and an election.
Speaker 3: Is Susan Lee the leader who can.
Speaker 2: Defend the attacks from the left, turn this around and
Speaker 2: get it back on track.
Speaker 12: Look, I very much hope she is, and she has
Speaker 12: my support. But I think the bigger thing is that
Speaker 12: we need a full team and our best team on
Speaker 12: the court prosecuting this case. This is something that's going
Speaker 12: to take everyone in every seat going forward and arguing
Speaker 12: that there is an economic consideration with net zero that
Speaker 12: we must take into consideration and pushing that case. That's
Speaker 12: going to be every single MP and eventually every single
Speaker 12: candidate that we put into the field being willing to
Speaker 12: fullheartedly say, look, there is a better way. There is
Speaker 12: a better way, and it's by considering the cost to
Speaker 12: Australians to making sure that we're still competitive, to making
Speaker 12: sure that we can still have industry stay in Australia.
Speaker 12: These are things we need to prosecute. I believe we can.
Speaker 2: So what's the vision we're just playing on our screen
Speaker 2: now of a bunch of Conservatives. You're at the back,
Speaker 2: you were standing there, could see you very clearly there, Gar.
Speaker 3: What was with that vision? Then? What message were you
Speaker 3: trying to send? Was there a message to Susan Lee.
Speaker 12: I think everyone's tried to take something more out of
Speaker 12: it than what it was. It was just a group
Speaker 12: of like minded people getting together beforehand and enjoying the
Speaker 12: opportunity to go and express their views on net zero,
Speaker 12: which is something that was denied us back in twenty
Speaker 12: twenty one when the previous Morrison government brought forward our
Speaker 12: position on net zero without a debate. So I think
Speaker 12: there's just a lot of people who were very excited
Speaker 12: about finally being able to make a contribution in the
Speaker 12: party room on a debate on net zero, and we
Speaker 12: enjoyed each other's company.
Speaker 1: That's about it, right.
Speaker 2: So this was not an image for Susan Lee of
Speaker 2: lookout the Conservatives are.
Speaker 12: In goodness me No, No, this was a group of
Speaker 12: like minded people, Birds of a feather flocking together.
Speaker 3: I like that analogy.
Speaker 2: And so you backed Susan Lee in Now she's a
Speaker 2: leader that's going to take the party to the election.
Speaker 12: Well, look she has my support and we have to
Speaker 12: get on with this job.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Well, I want to play some audio of Chris Bowen today.
Speaker 2: He was asked should Australians believe labor to bring down
Speaker 2: power prices?
Speaker 3: Have a listen.
Speaker 15: I think Australians had their say in May. You know,
Speaker 15: mister Dutton, I wish him well, said he wanted to
Speaker 15: referend him on climate and energy. We were okay with that.
Speaker 15: That happened in May. Australian people told us to get
Speaker 15: on with the job. That's what we're doing. I don't
Speaker 15: think the coalition got the memo from the Australian people
Speaker 15: in May though.
Speaker 14: Your response to that one, Garth, Look, this probably answers
Speaker 14: your earlier question, how are we going to win over
Speaker 14: those seats? Just roll out more, Chris Bowen, you want
Speaker 14: to talk about that election in May. Labor put that
Speaker 14: bloke into hiding. They hit him away.
Speaker 12: They didn't want him out there sprouting his nonsense for
Speaker 12: people because labor not Labour.
Speaker 1: No, this is their week.
Speaker 12: Labour know that what he says doesn't resonate with the
Speaker 12: experience of Australians out there. The higher energy prices that
Speaker 12: we're all seeing. Chris Bowen can't deny that it's real,
Speaker 12: it's happening. His vision of Australia of more and more
Speaker 12: renewable is not one that Australians are now feeling very
Speaker 12: comfortable with. So look, good luck Chris. I think he's
Speaker 12: going to be very nervous as we start to prosecute
Speaker 12: this case.
Speaker 3: Well, let's put it back on the agenda.
Speaker 2: Hasn't It's in front and center again and lab we're
Speaker 2: going to have to front up to the fact that
Speaker 2: our energy.
Speaker 3: Bills have gone to the other directions.
Speaker 2: So Chris Bowen can say whatever he likes, but it's
Speaker 2: not doing any favors Garth Hamilton, nice to see you
Speaker 2: as always, Thanks so much for joining me on the
Speaker 2: show this evening, or joining me now is Zoe Hilton
Speaker 2: as senior policy analyst for the Center for Independent Studies. Zoe,
Speaker 2: thanks for joining me. I asked this question of Garth,
Speaker 2: but I'm interested to get your perspective of this. What's
Speaker 2: the point of dropping net zero? But staying in the
Speaker 2: Paris Agreement.
Speaker 16: So I think we should definitely take this as a
Speaker 16: big win that net zero has actually been ditched by
Speaker 16: both the NATS and the Liberals now. And I think
Speaker 16: look massive credit to Matt Canaman in the NATS, just
Speaker 16: Internatmaging Proprice, Andrew Hasty, and all the other politicians who
Speaker 16: really showed conviction and stuck to what they believed was
Speaker 16: best for the country even when it seemed like it
Speaker 16: wasn't the best thing in a short term political sense.
Speaker 16: They were willing to stick with their convictions, and I
Speaker 16: think that that's really been thrown in this decision. That
Speaker 16: being said, I think there still is this sort of
Speaker 16: soft acceptance that, oh, we need to keep emissions reduction
Speaker 16: targets on the table, which is why they're deciding to
Speaker 16: stick with staying in Paris agreements. So that does raise
Speaker 16: a few questions because if we still have targets, and
Speaker 16: if we're required to ratchet them up continuously, which seems
Speaker 16: to be the case, then what does that mean for
Speaker 16: things like transmission planning? Because those targets, once they're legislated,
Speaker 16: they go into the regulatory system and they result in
Speaker 16: multi billion dollar projects being approved and that goes on
Speaker 16: to consumer bills. So I think I'd be interested to
Speaker 16: see what would end up happening once a coalition does
Speaker 16: eventually get back into government. What do they do with
Speaker 16: those targets and do they actually end up making them
Speaker 16: lax enough that we don't have all of these projects
Speaker 16: that we don't actually need economically in our system, which
Speaker 16: would push up prices exactly.
Speaker 2: And I mean being part of Paris means actually having
Speaker 2: these targets and working towards these targets. So that was
Speaker 2: my confusion as well, what support of being half in
Speaker 2: and half out? But I do I absolutely agree with you.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a good start at least. Sousan
Speaker 2: Lee has been quite coy on how much power bills
Speaker 2: will go down by, But when you compare the cost
Speaker 2: of Labour's renewables only approach and actually getting to net zero,
Speaker 2: our power bills will just keep going up and up,
Speaker 2: won't they.
Speaker 16: Yes, it's very clear, and we've done some research on this.
Speaker 16: The renewables honeymoon is over as we've gotten more and
Speaker 16: more renewables, just like all the other countries that have
Speaker 16: gotten into relatively high penetration of wind and solar in
Speaker 16: their systems, prices do continue to go up. There are
Speaker 16: no so high wind and solar low cost countries, they
Speaker 16: just don't exist. So what that means is as Labour's
Speaker 16: policy continues to be enacted, and I mean we've heard
Speaker 16: from Chris Bow and he's literally said this on the record,
Speaker 16: he wants to lock in this transition so no future
Speaker 16: government can undo it. That means that if the Collosi
Speaker 16: does get back into government, will they be able to
Speaker 16: unravel all these transmission projects that are going to come
Speaker 16: on to consumers' bills in the next several years and
Speaker 16: cause even higher price bikes. Will they be able to
Speaker 16: unravel capacity investment scheme contracts which I think are going
Speaker 16: to be about twenty years for these wind and solar
Speaker 16: developers that are being paid taxpayer dollars. All of these
Speaker 16: things mean that these are long term commitments. So a
Speaker 16: government coming in, they're not necessarily going to be able
Speaker 16: to make prices come down in the short term straight away.
Speaker 16: But the sooner we turn this ship around the better.
Speaker 16: So the sooner we refurbish our coal assets, we build
Speaker 16: new coal units, we build new coal plants, and potentially
Speaker 16: even if we can lift the nuclear band. We can
Speaker 16: build nuclear stations. The sooner we can do that. The
Speaker 16: sooner we get dispatchable capacity into the system and stop
Speaker 16: building renewables, the faster our bills will be able to
Speaker 16: come down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's exactly what I think every Aussie is
Speaker 2: waiting for. They've gone up around forty percent under labor
Speaker 2: on the renewables only fantasy.
Speaker 3: And it will be great to open a.
Speaker 2: Bill and actually goes in the downwards trajectory. Zoe Hilton,
Speaker 2: We've got to leave it there. Thank you very much
Speaker 2: for joining me this evening. Really appreciate it. Coming up
Speaker 2: after the break, taxpayers hit with a massive bill to
Speaker 2: fly the East Safety Commissioner to eleven countries.
Speaker 3: Would you believe that? Are more with my panel?
Speaker 2: Next come back joining me now is new South Wales
Speaker 2: Independent MP Tanya Mahalic and form a new South Wales
Speaker 2: Police Minister David Elliott.
Speaker 3: Here we go for another week back, doesn't it okay? Now?
Speaker 2: Look, let's start with the economy. The Commonwealth Bank is
Speaker 2: tipping interest rates will be left on hold until.
Speaker 3: The end of the year.
Speaker 2: It comes as the unemployment rate dropped to four point
Speaker 2: three percent. Look, this is interesting we're not good news
Speaker 2: for mortgage holders. But what do you think, Tanny, this
Speaker 2: says about the economy.
Speaker 17: What's interesting because Jim Chalmers was this morning sprooking the
Speaker 17: Australian economy to some investors at the Sydney Opera House.
Speaker 17: But you know, I don't know how honesty he is
Speaker 17: with the outlook for the economy in Australia because at
Speaker 17: the moment we've got some real issues around productivity. We
Speaker 17: know that real business investment has been a lull on
Speaker 17: stagnating for the last eighteen months.
Speaker 3: We've come in and.
Speaker 17: Out of for the last two and a half years
Speaker 17: of per capita GDP recessions, which has been a huge problem.
Speaker 17: And GDP growth is slow. It's one point eight percent
Speaker 17: this year. It's email to be two point one percent.
Speaker 17: But if you read some of these economists, not a
Speaker 17: lot of them are convinced that they'll actually eventuate.
Speaker 3: The only thing growing in.
Speaker 17: Australia at the moment is the public service. It's a
Speaker 17: ballooning bureaucracy and anything related to NDOS. That's the only
Speaker 17: job going in Australia. But the private sector is suffering
Speaker 17: and it's weakening our economy as a result, and that's
Speaker 17: the real issue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that NDIS is a complete behemoth. But you raise
Speaker 2: a good point about productivity. Wasn't the labor talk fest
Speaker 2: a couple of months ago, David, Wasn't that supposed to
Speaker 2: solve all of the economic issues, including productivity.
Speaker 3: And look how swimmingly it's going.
Speaker 18: And no child's going to live in poverty.
Speaker 3: This is right?
Speaker 18: Yeah, this isla economics one O one. I mean four
Speaker 18: point three percent is. I grew up when working families
Speaker 18: were paying ten percent, so I don't panic when interest
Speaker 18: rates are at a four and when you consider that
Speaker 18: the unemployment figure is so low and therefore there is
Speaker 18: there is healthy employment levels around the around Australia. If
Speaker 18: that's the price we have to pay, is just a
Speaker 18: little bit of an interest burden, interest rate burden, I'm
Speaker 18: comfortable with that. But again, as we've all said, productivity
Speaker 18: should be the name of the game, right and so
Speaker 18: should and so should so should the red tape and
Speaker 18: the green tape the business is facing, because I think
Speaker 18: that's probably fifty percent of the productivity burden that they're carrying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, who.
Speaker 2: Would want to go into business right now into this
Speaker 2: country with energy prices on red tape. You know, you've
Speaker 2: got the unions with their finger in every pie, and
Speaker 2: it's not a nightmare right now. Now, Look, the Victorian
Speaker 2: Premier just Into Allen has now officially signed a treaty
Speaker 2: with Indigenous people into law, claiming it marks a new
Speaker 2: chapter in the story of our state. Quote new chapter
Speaker 2: for the sixty five thousand to identify as Aboriginal, not
Speaker 2: the overarching seven million residents of the state. Tanya. Look,
Speaker 2: there was no debate. Nobody actually voted for this. In fact,
Speaker 2: the majority of Victorians said no to the voice. So
Speaker 2: why is it there do you think?
Speaker 17: Well, look, the Layer Party was always going to do this,
Speaker 17: so I think there was no question of that. You know,
Speaker 17: they had a referendum. I don't think anyone believes that
Speaker 17: they really cared what the outcome of the referend would
Speaker 17: be and just sit to Allen has twelve months left
Speaker 17: we hope of her term before an election, and as
Speaker 17: always this is legacy building for Labor Party two.
Speaker 3: They're going to rush and make sure that anything they've.
Speaker 17: Already announced, like the treaty, is well and truly in place.
Speaker 17: That will make it almost impossible if a liberal government
Speaker 17: is elected in Victoria to scale it back, and of
Speaker 17: course they've got to reward all these activists right back
Speaker 17: the Labor Party. And this is all about unelected activists
Speaker 17: getting a job. And that's the only people that will.
Speaker 3: Be rewarded as a result of this treaty. It's not the.
Speaker 17: Sixty five thousand Indigenous that live in Victoria that will
Speaker 17: be supported. It's all the activists that were part of
Speaker 17: the Voice campaign that all need a job.
Speaker 3: Now, well, I mean, and that's a good point.
Speaker 2: And I was having a look, David at some of
Speaker 2: the immediate changes. So schools children between prep and year
Speaker 2: ten will be indoctrinated into truth telling curriculum. There will
Speaker 2: be an Indigenous body which will oversee training programs for
Speaker 2: public servants to ensure they are culturally capable. What on
Speaker 2: earth does that mean?
Speaker 18: This will not assist one child get a better education,
Speaker 18: This will not assist one child to get to break
Speaker 18: away from malnutrition or sexualist abuse. This will not make
Speaker 18: the life of one Indigenous kid in Victoria better.
Speaker 3: It is very, very.
Speaker 18: Dangerous and indeed silly for Jacintarellen to do this. What
Speaker 18: part of no don't you understand? And I think that
Speaker 18: this will rightly become an election issue. She doesn't have
Speaker 18: the electoral mandate to do it. And I'd say that
Speaker 18: what we're going to find at the next election is
Speaker 18: that if the Liberal party in the coalition is smart,
Speaker 18: they without wanting to make it a partisan political issue,
Speaker 18: they will highlight the fact that you can't trust these
Speaker 18: people with policy because when you give them their opinion,
Speaker 18: they ignore it exactly.
Speaker 2: And as I said, nobody ever voted for this. There
Speaker 2: was no public debate. It was thrust upon victorians. The
Speaker 2: voice was thrust on all of us and sixty percent
Speaker 2: said no rightly. So now, look, taxpayers have been slugged
Speaker 2: more than four hundred and twenty five thousand dollars to
Speaker 2: fly the e Safety Commissioner duly In Grant and her
Speaker 2: staff to eleven countries in three years. Have a look
Speaker 2: at this schedule. Just gone to the US, the UK, Switzerland, Germany, France, Italy, Singapore, Japan, Belgium,
Speaker 2: Ireland and the Netherlands for a whole heap of meetings.
Speaker 2: It's quite the itinery Tanua for someone who's quite desperate
Speaker 2: to censor the whole Internet.
Speaker 3: We had a lot of self care. This hurts great
Speaker 3: Safety commissioner.
Speaker 17: I thought the whole remit of the E Safety Commission
Speaker 17: was that it's about safety online. Why not actually go
Speaker 17: to these conferences by zooming in or on teams do
Speaker 17: an online conference. It's unbelievable that in Tinary Swiss Alps
Speaker 17: as well, and don't look.
Speaker 3: I think people should be rightly.
Speaker 17: Concerned about the level of expense coming out of this authority.
Speaker 17: And it is an independent authority unfortunately, so they can't
Speaker 17: even be questioned in Parliament. It's unbelievable what they're about
Speaker 17: to get away with and have got away with. And
Speaker 17: David knows as politicians we get a little small story
Speaker 17: if we've gone and spent five thousand dollars on a
Speaker 17: trip up to Brisbane or something, you know.
Speaker 3: Let alone four hundred and twenty five dollars.
Speaker 18: Well, I mean ten is right. I would have thought
Speaker 18: that a commissioner in charge of technology use technology to
Speaker 18: attend these events. I mean, if I can use zoom
Speaker 18: meetings to have CEO hookups from around the country, surely
Speaker 18: she can have zoom meetings to have these this correspondence
Speaker 18: with them, with the Swiss and the Americans and the like.
Speaker 18: It's just bad juju. It's just it's a bad image
Speaker 18: for the public sector, it's a bad image for her,
Speaker 18: and it just highlights the fact that some of these
Speaker 18: people in the camera bubble live in a completely different world.
Speaker 2: They live in a bubble. They live in a bubble. Now, David,
Speaker 2: let's talk about your Daily Telegraph column this week. Why
Speaker 2: is Christmas drinks calls will save your inner elf? So
Speaker 2: people would judge you based on your drink? Is that
Speaker 2: what you're saying at Christmas party?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 18: I think judging people at Christmas parties is a healthy
Speaker 18: thing to do.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 18: We get so hung up on how much they consume.
Speaker 18: I think quality and quantity is somebody you drink, Well,
Speaker 18: I have a cheeky champagne to start, and well I'm
Speaker 18: probably a lady, all right, so I'm probably going I
Speaker 18: can now.
Speaker 17: I was really concerned that you said that Bankstown people
Speaker 17: have VB.
Speaker 18: And I normally start the day with VB. I's a
Speaker 18: great breakfast drink. Don't be judgmental.
Speaker 2: I don't drink be but I did a survey.
Speaker 3: Apparently it's lashes.
Speaker 2: Because you people have gone middle classes.
Speaker 3: Side left have.
Speaker 18: Become too middle class and star Left I'm going to
Speaker 18: come back and start.
Speaker 2: You have to go back. Well, look, if you want
Speaker 2: to know what your drink says about you, do catch
Speaker 2: up with David Elliott's colum in the Daily Telegraph. It
Speaker 2: is quite a laugh and it's quite so. It's quite good.
Speaker 2: At the same time, I'll tell you everything you need
Speaker 2: to know about yourself.
Speaker 18: Self assessment, self assessment.
Speaker 3: We all have a bit of self assessment.
Speaker 2: David Elliott, Daniam Halem, Thank you as always to both
Speaker 2: of you. Will see you again next week. Coming up
Speaker 2: after the break, we'll head to the US as the
Speaker 2: BBC apologizes to Donald Trump, but is it enough to
Speaker 2: stop a lawsuit? Plus, I'll show you the sweet moment
Speaker 2: at the White House as the President invites.
Speaker 3: Kids into the Oval office. That's next come back.
Speaker 2: Let's return now to that ridiculous bail law's proposal I
Speaker 2: brought you earlier in the show. Are report authored by
Speaker 2: officials from every Commonwealth, state and territory government is urging
Speaker 2: all jurisdictions to loosen their bail laws. Joinning me now
Speaker 2: is Shadow Attorney General Andrew Wallace. Andrew, thanks for your
Speaker 2: time as always. What do you make of this report?
Speaker 13: Well, I haven't a chance to read it. I don't
Speaker 13: even know whether it's been released publicly yet or not.
Speaker 13: I know that the Attorney General has been calling for
Speaker 13: it to be released. Look this morning, when the news
Speaker 13: hit The Australian the news piece, I was just absolutely
Speaker 13: flabbergasted as to how in goodness name could a commonwealth
Speaker 13: get this so wrong the rest of the country, Australians
Speaker 13: across this country are calling upon state and territory governments
Speaker 13: to strengthen bail laws. We've seen what happened in Queensland
Speaker 13: under the Labor government before David Cruse fully was elected.
Speaker 13: We're seeing live what's happening in Victoria now with the
Speaker 13: weakening of bail laws and how that has.
Speaker 1: Driven crime through the roof.
Speaker 13: And Australians across the country are calling out for their
Speaker 13: state and territory governments to get tougher on crime. And
Speaker 13: yet here's the Commonwealth government coming out and saying, oh,
Speaker 13: you know, we think you should loosen bail laws across
Speaker 13: the country. It makes absolutely no sense and I'm sure
Speaker 13: that many Australians would be just dumbfounded.
Speaker 2: Well, it's completely out of step with community expectations in
Speaker 2: my view, actually The Australian was reporting today that this
Speaker 2: cause for a requirement that courts consider a person's status
Speaker 2: as an Aboriginal or Torres Strait islander before making a
Speaker 2: bail decision.
Speaker 3: Why is it always about race based politics, Andrew?
Speaker 1: Well, look, I mean it shouldn't be.
Speaker 13: The Greek god of Thesises is supposed to be blind,
Speaker 13: and it troubles me that we are treating people differently
Speaker 13: in the eyes of the law by virtue of the
Speaker 13: color of their skin. Now, everybody, most Australians would recognize
Speaker 13: that our prisons are overpopulated from a population perspective, with
Speaker 13: our indigenous people.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to see that.
Speaker 13: But at the end of the day, if people break
Speaker 13: the law, particularly those whether you're white, black or brindle,
Speaker 13: If you break the law, and if it's a if
Speaker 13: it's a serious violent of fence, this kind of round
Speaker 13: table of you know, in and straight back out onto
Speaker 13: the streets. If people aren't, if they don't suffer the
Speaker 13: consequences for their actions, well then people are just going
Speaker 13: to keep committing more and more crimes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I couldn't agree with you more. I mean,
Speaker 2: we shouldn't be divided by the color of our skin.
Speaker 2: I want to ask you just quickly on net zero Andrew.
Speaker 3: We pleased that the party's finally come to a position.
Speaker 13: Yeah, Denika, We've been talking about this now for six
Speaker 13: months and I've kept saying to you please be patient.
Speaker 1: We'll get there in the end.
Speaker 13: And I want to thank people for their patients because
Speaker 13: I know that this has been a challenging thing for
Speaker 13: many Conservative voters. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 13: the Liberal Party has decided that we will back Australian businesses,
Speaker 13: we will back mums and dads. We know that they
Speaker 13: are doing it incredibly tough. So we want to restore
Speaker 13: affordability and reliability as the number one factor that we've
Speaker 13: got to look at now. Yes we want to reduce emissions,
Speaker 13: of course we do, but we've got to restore affordability
Speaker 13: and reliability and that's not what we've had under this
Speaker 13: Labor government. This Labor government has driven costs increases in
Speaker 13: energy costs by around forty in the last three and
Speaker 13: a half years. That's on top of the cost of
Speaker 13: living in crisis. And to boot, emissions reductions have flatlined
Speaker 13: under the coalition had when we were in government, not
Speaker 13: only were our energy prices lower, but so were our emissions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you look at your spot on and look, I'm
Speaker 2: glad we finally got an answer to the question to
Speaker 2: ask you weekly on.
Speaker 3: This show for the last six months.
Speaker 2: I don't have to ask you about it again, so
Speaker 2: I'm sure that makes it very very happy. Andrew Wallace,
Speaker 2: nice to see you as always, Thanks very much for
Speaker 2: joining me.
Speaker 1: Thanks Aniga well.
Speaker 2: As I mentioned earlier in the show, the BBC has
Speaker 2: done it again with its dodgy and deliberate editing of
Speaker 2: Donald Trump's January sixth speech.
Speaker 3: A second show, this time, Newsnight.
Speaker 2: Also adopted footage of the Capitol Hill speech.
Speaker 3: Have a look, We're going.
Speaker 10: To cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women.
Speaker 11: And we fight.
Speaker 1: We fight like hell.
Speaker 10: We're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen
Speaker 10: and women, and we're probably not going to.
Speaker 11: Be cheering so much for some of them.
Speaker 2: I Meanwhile, the BABC has apologized to Donald Trump for
Speaker 2: its Panorama episode that spliced together parts of that speech,
Speaker 2: but has rejected his demands for compensation. Joining me now
Speaker 2: is Brad Palumbo, host of Brad Versus Everyone podcast. Brad
Speaker 2: great to catch up with you again, Thanks for joining me.
Speaker 2: Do you think an apology will cut it for the president?
Speaker 2: He's already threatened to sue the UK's public broadcaster for
Speaker 2: a billion dollars.
Speaker 19: Well, look, the BBC is turning into an absolute joke
Speaker 19: in the ice of the American public. The way they
Speaker 19: deceptively edited this Trump speech is pretty blatant.
Speaker 2: And it's not just that.
Speaker 19: I mean they recently sanctioned or found that a journalist
Speaker 19: had violated their policies by saying women instead of pregnant person.
Speaker 19: So they're turning into a laughing stock. I would be
Speaker 19: very frustrated if I was a brit that I would have
Speaker 19: to pay a license fee to them. But Trump, frankly,
Speaker 19: I think is better served by just letting leaving this
Speaker 19: in the rear view mirror. He's already got plenty of money,
Speaker 19: He's already won lawsuits against media companies. Don't bet against
Speaker 19: him pursuing it against the BBC. He loves to get revenge,
Speaker 19: but frankly, I think they are doing a good enough
Speaker 19: job of running themselves out of business and out of
Speaker 19: credibility for him to even be worth going after them.
Speaker 1: At this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I agree They've done it to themselves twice
Speaker 2: now in the space of a week.
Speaker 3: Extraordinary.
Speaker 2: Now, Brad, the Democrats are trying to implicate Donald Trump
Speaker 2: again with pedophile Jeffrey Epstein releasing three emails that they
Speaker 2: kind of mentioned the President and his knowledge of Epstein's activities. Brad,
Speaker 2: do you think this is just another desperate attempt by
Speaker 2: the Democrats.
Speaker 19: Well, I don't think these emails change that much. The
Speaker 19: Democrats are acting like they're a huge bombshell, and I
Speaker 19: just really.
Speaker 1: Don't see it.
Speaker 19: They had to omit the victim's name because in the
Speaker 19: version they released, because if you actually include it, while
Speaker 19: she has said that she never saw Donald Trump ever
Speaker 19: do anything wrong to her or anyone else. So I
Speaker 19: do think they are weaponizing this in a partisan manner.
Speaker 19: But Donald Trump promised to release the full Ebstein files.
Speaker 19: It was a key campaign promise, and I'm hearing not
Speaker 19: from partisan opponents, but from people on his side of
Speaker 19: the aisle. They still want that, and I don't think
Speaker 19: this is going to go away until as long as
Speaker 19: he doesn't release them. Democrats can drip by drips selectively
Speaker 19: release a piece here or a piece there. I don't
Speaker 19: know who exactly he is protecting by not releasing them
Speaker 19: so far. I don't think it implicates him, but maybe
Speaker 19: somebody else powerful or important in his orbit. But this
Speaker 19: issue is going to be a cloud over Trump's presidency
Speaker 19: until he just fulfills his campaign promise that his supporters
Speaker 19: are still calling on him to do and releases the
Speaker 19: whole file and let it all go out there for
Speaker 19: the sunshine to see.
Speaker 2: Good point, look of interesting to see what he does
Speaker 2: with it. And that look finally, the government shutdown has ended.
Speaker 2: After forty three days of the Democrats holding the country
Speaker 2: to ransom, here was Donald Trump officially reopening it.
Speaker 11: It's an honor out to sign this incredible bill and
Speaker 11: get our country working again.
Speaker 1: Thanks you.
Speaker 2: Well, Brad.
Speaker 3: Look finally what happens now?
Speaker 19: Well, the Democrats have egg on their face because this
Speaker 19: was an absurd failure for them. It was really a farce.
Speaker 19: They claimed they didn't shut the government down, but of
Speaker 19: course they always did. They withheld the votes that Republicans
Speaker 19: needed to pass clean budget legislation. But then when some
Speaker 19: Democrats have broke ranks to finally end the shutdown, the
Speaker 19: other ones got mad at them and said, you caved totally.
Speaker 19: Nuking their argument that it had never been them at all,
Speaker 19: it had always been the publicans. And then all they
Speaker 19: got was a vote on the Obamacare subsidies they were
Speaker 19: always going to get. So they caused weeks of suffering
Speaker 19: and chaos, made a whole little stand, and accomplished nothing
Speaker 19: other than I guess some virtue signaling. But I think
Speaker 19: they burned a lot of political capital on what ultimately
Speaker 19: proved a futile stunt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've absolutely wasted their time forty three days of
Speaker 2: holding the country to ransom and for what absolutely nothing. Now, look,
Speaker 2: let's end on something from Brad. Have a look at
Speaker 2: this sweet moment at the White House when Donald Trump
Speaker 2: invited Kins into the Oval office.
Speaker 1: Have a look, my name is Donald Okay, do you
Speaker 1: want to bet one? Two three?
Speaker 2: Oh, Brad, he's just a grandpa at heart after all.
Speaker 19: Yeah, it's a sweet moment, and I hope he showed
Speaker 19: them the diet coke. But it's good to see. It's
Speaker 19: good to see the lighthearted side of the presidency. And
Speaker 19: just you know, we could all use some more positivity
Speaker 19: in the news cycle these days. Things are looking bleak,
Speaker 19: but we should all remember the beautiful part what we
Speaker 19: all fate for to protect.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, that's actually a good point. The news
Speaker 2: cycle is so bleak, so when we do see nice
Speaker 2: stuff like that, it's good to show it. Brad Palumbo,
Speaker 2: great to see you as always, Thanks for joining me
Speaker 2: on the show. Thanks coming up half the break the
Speaker 2: winners and losers of the week, including the conservative liberals
Speaker 2: killing off net zero, plus the shocking moment a light
Speaker 2: rail driver falls asleep behind the controls. Is that time
Speaker 2: of the week where we saw the winners from the
Speaker 2: losers and helping me to do that is Sky News
Speaker 2: contributor James Bolt.
Speaker 3: James, great to have you back. Thanks so much for
Speaker 3: joining me.
Speaker 2: You're winner this week are the victorious conservative liberal MPs.
Speaker 20: You got to give it to him. It's been a
Speaker 20: debate that's been raging for six months on what the
Speaker 20: policy is going to be. And you knew that they
Speaker 20: were feeling pretty goo about themselves when they walked into
Speaker 20: the meetings. So you can see that there. That's just
Speaker 20: they're ready to they're rolling deep, they're ready to party.
Speaker 3: So I just.
Speaker 20: Thought, look, I'm not a liberal voter, I'm not a
Speaker 20: member of the party, but I can offer them one
Speaker 20: piece of advice, which is that's the kind of vision
Speaker 20: that you can use for marketing campaigns.
Speaker 2: And I just like I was throwing some.
Speaker 20: Ideas around for your producer, and I think I've come
Speaker 20: up with something that they could use. It's just a
Speaker 20: free one for me, so you know, I look notes
Speaker 20: get off my back if they use it or not.
Speaker 20: But it's just something I thought abuseful.
Speaker 2: Doctor Dry and the Liberal Party, whoa, it's a it's
Speaker 2: a good big so I wonder if they would take
Speaker 2: it up.
Speaker 3: I will see they gotta win over younger voters, don't do.
Speaker 20: Yeah, and doctor j you know he's probably not the
Speaker 20: young demographic anymore. We are we're getting so but it
Speaker 20: could play.
Speaker 2: James, I actually love that idea. That's one of your
Speaker 2: best work. Sell it to the party. Now look my
Speaker 2: winner this week. Just for a bit of fun, just
Speaker 2: to end the week, have a look at this porky
Speaker 2: perpetrator who led police in New Mexico on to chase
Speaker 2: through Albertquerque.
Speaker 3: Have a look at this vision.
Speaker 2: This shows the police department chasing this loose pig along
Speaker 2: an interstate highway. Decided to take a joy ride through traffic,
Speaker 2: dodging cars and officers.
Speaker 3: After a brief.
Speaker 2: Foot pursuit, the team managed to safely detain the porky
Speaker 2: perpetrator put it in the back of the wagon. No
Speaker 2: one was hurt, the pigs in now safe hands. So
Speaker 2: I just thought, you know what, that's what we're going
Speaker 2: to end Friday with James.
Speaker 20: We were just talking my first instance of yoga just
Speaker 20: before the break, and then I see this clip here
Speaker 20: and I just go, I'm less athletic than a pig, Like,
Speaker 20: there's no way I could outrun the federals for that long.
Speaker 2: No, we gave yoga a James gave yoga a go.
Speaker 2: Everybody got that on TV in the Winner of the Week.
Speaker 2: Actually he's doing yoga.
Speaker 3: For the first winn of the week.
Speaker 2: Me, that's a little all right, now your Loser of
Speaker 2: the Week the ABC. Yeah.
Speaker 20: So if I'm with the ABC and I was embroiled
Speaker 20: in so many doctoring footage scanners, We've got the Jane
Speaker 20: Hume one. We've got our colleague Sky News host Chris
Speaker 20: Kenny's beautiful reporting on what they've been doing for don
Speaker 20: Trump speech. I'd been keeping a little bit of a
Speaker 20: lid on my criticism of others, but not the ABC
Speaker 20: because Justin Stevens and Hu Marks in a staff white email,
Speaker 20: have said there is just this opportunistic criticism of them.
Speaker 20: They're the victims of a smear campaign. And I just
Speaker 20: would not do that on the same week that you've
Speaker 20: doctored the photos of Jane Hume, that you've done what
Speaker 20: I what I say is very similar editing new techniques
Speaker 20: to the BBC. I would keep a lid on it.
Speaker 2: Absolutely well. I said it was. It showed he was proud.
Speaker 2: I think Hugh Marx's words well.
Speaker 20: Out of the reporting.
Speaker 2: Proud of the report.
Speaker 20: Yeah, because like what the ABC did, which was similar
Speaker 20: to the BBC scanner, which I mean you've been covering
Speaker 20: on this show. So I'm not going to go over
Speaker 20: too much. But when you say when you played Trump
Speaker 20: saying we're going to go down to the Capitol, but
Speaker 20: edit out him saying to cheer on our brave senators
Speaker 20: in congressmen, you're making a point in my view.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, Well, I mean the BBC's doctored footage basically
Speaker 2: it insinuated something that was not there. So we'll see
Speaker 2: what Trump does, whether he actually sues.
Speaker 3: Him or not.
Speaker 2: Now, my loser of the week, James is this US
Speaker 2: light rail driver who fell asleep in San Francisco.
Speaker 3: Have a look at the vision.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, relax, relag relate, we are crash. Relag Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure relax is the right word to be
Speaker 2: using after you almost crashed the tram.
Speaker 20: The bar for me relaxing is not whether or not
Speaker 20: we crashed. It's whether or not you're awake on the
Speaker 20: job when you're driving.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that I look.
Speaker 2: A full investigation is being conducted, but luckily nobody was injured.
Speaker 3: That is frightening.
Speaker 2: James Bold, great to see you again. Have a nice weekend.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining me. Really appreciate it.
Speaker 3: That's all I've got time for.
Speaker 2: I'll be back at seven pm on Sunday for denekro
Speaker 2: and James. Steve Price is next.
Speaker 3: Good night,