1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: On scoring Lis Oustrodia. 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 2: This is the Window Panety Show. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Reda Panehy Show. Coming 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 3: up tonight, Secret ministerial briefings reveal the truth about Victorious Treaty, 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 3: including reparations for Indigenous Victorians. Patrick Carline and Colleen Harkin 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 3: will join me to cover the day's top headlines. We 7 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 3: look at Victoria's strict suppression laws that see the name 8 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 3: of a high profile rapist suppressed. Legal expert Dustin Quile 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 3: would be here to discuss that Kosher Gator will be 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 3: here with the latest US news as well as an 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 3: incredible case showing free speech is dead in the UK, 12 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 3: and our favorite Texan Alex Stein will have all the 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 3: news on Democrat Jasmine Crockett, who has just announced her 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 3: candidacy for the US Senate and Left is losing its stars, 15 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: the lead singer of Garbage losing her mind. 16 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 4: And I want literally what I ask people to punch 17 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 4: you with. 18 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 3: But first, secret ministerial briefings have revealed Indigenous Victorians will 19 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: be able to seek supercharged reparations through the state based treaty. 20 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 3: Theenter Alan government fought to keep the briefings hidden until 21 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: after the treaty legislation was passed through Parliament. The briefing 22 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 3: says it is intended that the treaty pathway will be 23 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 3: incentivized as the preferred option for traditional owners seeking recognition 24 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: and reparations. Liberal MP David Davis said the Allen government 25 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: fought for months against the release of the ministerial briefings 26 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 3: to him under the freedom of information laws. He said, 27 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 3: Labor always intended reparations to be part of this treaty, 28 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 3: they just lied about it until it was passed. Joining 29 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: me now for more on this is NEWSCORPS Senior writer 30 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 3: Patrick Carline and Institute of Public Affairs Research fellow Colleen 31 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: Harken Colleen. The briefing also revealed two Indigenous groups were 32 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 3: recently awarded and estimated one hundred million dollars in settlement packages. 33 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 5: Look, part of this is the whole story about what 34 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 5: Victorians have never been told. So there is a thing 35 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 5: called the Traditional on Settlement Act, and there is thousands 36 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 5: and thousands of acres and millions of dollars that has 37 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 5: already been paid out, paid out in what is effectively 38 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 5: reparations by stealth. This has been kept quiet from the 39 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 5: public on the basis that people kind of think that 40 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 5: the treaty is a bit of a feel good, unifying moment, 41 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 5: but actually what it is is incredibly opaque and disingenuous 42 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 5: about what's actually going on. It's the traditional owner settlement 43 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 5: scenario has gone under the radar for more, I think 44 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 5: about fifteen years, and most Victorians have no clue about 45 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 5: what's been going on. So the idea that the treaty 46 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 5: is just sort of a symbol of unity is actually 47 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 5: the opposite of what's going on. 48 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 3: Oh, anyone who's bothered to actually look at the legislation, 49 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 3: look at the documents that came before the legislation, it 50 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: is very clear that this is a radical, radical body 51 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 3: with a radical agenda. And Patrick today primag just into 52 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: Alan delivered yet another apology to Indigenous Victorians in the parliament. 53 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 6: Yes, that's right. I think Jeff Kennett first apologized back 54 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 6: in nineteen ninety seven, so we could add up how 55 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 6: many apologies, says But this treaty process, I mean, it's 56 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 6: been by stealth the entire way that the Alan government's 57 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 6: tried to separate the notion of the symbolism from the reparations. 58 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 6: And here we have a document that directly links them together. 59 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 6: There is no mandate for this, there's no mandate for reparations, 60 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 6: especially after the Voice referendum last year. I mean, this 61 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 6: is all happened in secret, and Victoria can't afford it. 62 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 6: We can't afford anything at the moment. We can't afford 63 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 6: hundreds and millions of dollars. 64 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: We can't. We've got a state riddled with hothole's biggest 65 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: debt in the country, at biggest debt of any state, 66 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: land tax going through the roof, all sorts of property 67 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: taxes and taxes on small businesses, medium sized businesses. I mean, 68 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 3: the place is in dire straits and we're paying at 69 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: one hundred million dollars in reparations. Kind of secretly incredible stuff. Now, 70 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: let's talk about Anika Wells, Sports Minister has been found 71 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 3: to have breached parliamentary rules after she failed to declare 72 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: free tickets to multiple A List events. Of course, she's 73 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 3: a communications minister as well. Yesterday and Anika Well's Parliamentary 74 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: Register of members interests was updated to include tickets for 75 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: herself and her husband to go to the AFL, RL 76 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 3: and rl W Grand Finals. She also added free tickets 77 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 3: to Oasis entry to the logis the list goes on. 78 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: MPs are required to update the public Register within twenty 79 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 3: eight days of receiving gift, gifts and hospitality, but it's 80 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 3: been over a month since the Oasis concerts. All up, 81 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 3: there nine declarations that should have been declared as far 82 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 3: back as August. Colleen The Sydney Morning Herald yesterday revealed 83 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: that Anika Wells charged tax payers almost one thousand dollars 84 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 3: to have a government funded car wait seven hours for 85 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 3: her while she watched the tennis while she attended the 86 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 3: Australian Open back in twenty twenty three. Just the level 87 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: of arrogance and entitlementia is astonishing. 88 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 5: It shows complete contempt for constituents, really for the Australian taxpayer. 89 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 5: You know, I look at Minister Wells and think that 90 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 5: she's entirely on top of the perks, the girl with 91 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 5: her job, not at all on top of her portfolio, 92 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 5: because it wasn't very long ago with the optors outage, 93 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 5: and she excused herself saying she'd only been in the 94 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 5: position for six months, and in that almost that same 95 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 5: week she was scouting off to New York for one 96 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 5: hundred thousand dollar trip to do to Sprik, something she 97 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 5: hasn't even done yet. So the social media band starts tomorrow. 98 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 5: Nobody still knows how it's going to work. That's been challenged, 99 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 5: whether it should happen at all. That conversation has never 100 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 5: really been happened. And when someone else, when Roman Bishop 101 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 5: did this for five thousand dollars, remember that choppergate, you 102 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 5: know helicopter she resigned. I mean Anika Wells is like 103 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,679 Speaker 5: her lifestyle must be extraordinary on our dollar. 104 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, the kids are skiing in where does she 105 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: go skiing? Perisher? Was it thereat threadbow on the taxpayer? 106 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 3: They're attending Oasis concerts, they're attending cricket games, tennis football. 107 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a fairly nice lifestyle. Over ninety thousand 108 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 3: dollars for three airfares to New York that I can't 109 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 3: get over. Patrick the Primate has also got a ticket 110 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 3: to Oasis, but he declared it within the required time. 111 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 3: Surely if he can manage Attika Wells could manage it. 112 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 7: Well. 113 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 6: She's been to a lot of things to be fair, 114 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 6: be hard to keep up with. 115 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 3: The register friends birthdays to get that that was. 116 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 6: The friend's birthday. Other labor politicians didn't claim expenses for that, 117 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 6: and I mean she's obviously right across how to claim expenses. 118 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 6: The problem is, if you look at Bronwin Bishop, if 119 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 6: you look at Tony Burke, you look at to see 120 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 6: where those stories went. They ended up apologizing, they ended 121 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 6: up repaying it. Anka Wells could be repaying hundreds of 122 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 6: thousands of dollars here and that might be the expectation. 123 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 6: Is she going to repay it and that's where the 124 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 6: story will move in the coming days. 125 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: Well she says it's within the guidelines. The Prime Minister 126 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: says it's within the guidelines. That's the defense here. But 127 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: Bronwin Bishop's chopper ride was within the guidelines. It still 128 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 3: cost her plenty, not just paying it back, but she 129 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 3: had to step down. Now. It's not just Anika Wells. 130 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 3: Don Farrell has also been into this saga. Through it 131 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: was revealed he logged over two hundred publicly funded family 132 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: reunion flights, including trips to two AFL deciders, three Australian 133 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: Open matches, and also a sunset dinner at Ularu. Sounds delightful, Colleen, really, 134 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 3: I mean, at this point they're just extracting the urine 135 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 3: with ext it's too much great expression. 136 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 5: By the way, Absolutely, look, we elect public officials, we 137 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 5: don't elect the entire family. So I think any reasonable 138 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 5: person would say, you know, maybe there's once a year 139 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 5: or something, if you've been on an extended scenario, if 140 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 5: you can't do the job and be away from your family, 141 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 5: then don't do the job. 142 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 3: Don't take the job. So you know, people are. 143 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 5: Sort of excusing them while they're away from their family 144 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 5: for a period of time, Well, just don't take the job. 145 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 5: Like someone else who's able to focus on it, do it. 146 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 5: You know, the amount of money that is spending being 147 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 5: spent on family and friends essentially for these people to 148 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 5: have amazing lifestyles is completely you know, it does not 149 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 5: past the pub tech. 150 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 3: No, it's not shouldn't be part of the deal. They 151 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: are well paid, and you know, it's one thing to have, 152 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 3: you know, perhaps during Christmas to have some sort of 153 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 3: a family reunion flight covered, but to just constantly have 154 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: companions at events, and particularly when they're Australian open events 155 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 3: or oasis tickets or sunset dinners in ularu, it seems 156 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 3: like you're in the job for the wrong reasons. 157 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 6: Well, if you've got a concar waiting for you for 158 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 6: seven hours while you watch the tenants, I mean, I 159 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 6: think one hundred percent of Australia to say you're taking 160 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 6: the pits, you really are that you cannot be serious. 161 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 6: And I mean, look what will happen here. We'll see 162 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 6: other politicians accused of spending this on this and having 163 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 6: expenses there. It will just play out and the electric 164 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 6: hates it, absolutely hates it. 165 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 3: Do you think Anaka Wells can survive this? Let's forget 166 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 3: about Don Farrell for a second, but the number of 167 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: incidents with Anika Wells, it just seems that it's going 168 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: to be something that the Prime Minister can't ignore, you'd. 169 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 6: Think, so I don't think she can she should survive. Really, 170 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 6: it is so off the charts. Compared to Bronwan Bishop 171 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 6: or Tony Burke who had one sort of instance where 172 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 6: they overstepped, there are twenty and there might be more coming. 173 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 3: Out, and also failing to declare them in any sort 174 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 3: of timely manner, making multiple updates yesterday colle Well. 175 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 5: And there's also the seventeen hundred dollars dinner in France 176 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 5: where she said that she fell asleep and had amusedly 177 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 5: bar well, what was the seventeen hundred dollars spent on? 178 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 5: I'm with you, Patrick, I don't think she should survive it. 179 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 5: It doesn't pass any sort of reasonable test, and that 180 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 5: word reasonable is in their charter to follow. So, whether 181 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 5: you spend one hundred dollars on a bottle of wine, 182 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 5: you know, maybe you can shim me that. But seventeen 183 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 5: hundred dollars on a dinner for a couple of people, 184 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 5: that doesn't pass anybody's test. 185 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 3: No, and just the allowance she had per day for 186 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 3: Paris was completely out of the realms of normality you 187 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 3: would think. Now, let's talk about OnlyFans model Bonnie Blue. 188 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 3: In fact, I don't think she's on only fans anymore. 189 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 3: I think she got kicked off that platform. But she's 190 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 3: facing up to fifteen years in an Indonesian prison after 191 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 3: her arrest in Bali, but it's believed she maybe deported instead. 192 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 3: Police I yet to release additional information following the arrest 193 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 3: last week of the woman known as Bonnie Blue and 194 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 3: seventeen male tourists on suspicion of breaching Indonesia's anti pornography laws. 195 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 3: If prosecuted and found guilty. She faces up to fifteen 196 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 3: years imprisonment and finds upwards of five hundred thousand. Colleen 197 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 3: Philo Delano, a managing partner of the law firm in Jakata, 198 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 3: says she's likely to be helped by an invisible hand, 199 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: that's the expression, and will be deported instead. But I mean, 200 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 3: I hope for her. That's true. People seem to forget 201 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 3: Bali is part of Indonesia. It is a Muslim country. 202 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a couple of things. So this it is 203 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 5: a Muslim country, and it's showing a complete disrespect for 204 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 5: you know, that country's values. It also, to me, is 205 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 5: a question of if a guy was doing this, If 206 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 5: this was a male who was out courting and trying 207 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 5: to get very young males, very young girls on board, 208 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 5: there would be outrage. And for some reason, this sort 209 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 5: of me too movement doesn't apply to women. So you know, 210 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 5: she's out there doing something that's completely reprehensible in a 211 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 5: country that finds it reprehensible, and you know, nobody seems 212 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 5: to worry too much about that. And if it was 213 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 5: a male who was doing it, people would not be 214 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 5: happy with it either. 215 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, And you know, we're not a Muslim country, 216 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 3: but we find it reprehensible, so much so that she's banned. 217 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 3: She wanted to pull these antiques on the Gold Coast 218 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: during schoolies and film sex scenes with a bunch of 219 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 3: barely legal young men, and Australian authority said no, thank you, 220 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: and she's gone to Ballei instead. Seems like a fairly 221 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 3: poor decision. 222 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 6: Well, I did some research on this earlier today. 223 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 3: I bet you did. 224 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 6: There was a well worn path of porn stars going 225 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 6: to Ballei, and because it's forbidden to do those things 226 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 6: in Bali, and so the publicity it generates is massive 227 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 6: as worldwide on this life. So I think the publicity 228 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 6: was a massive sort of draw card for doing this 229 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 6: in the first place. She'll probably get deported at some point. 230 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 6: She's languishing in jail for god knows how long, and. 231 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 3: It wouldn't be pleasant to be any sort of Ballei preson. 232 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 3: It's not exactly like our system here, but just more broadly, Patrick, 233 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: I'm sure you're aware of this character has one of 234 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 3: the most recognizable names in the world right now. It 235 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 3: seems astonishing the fame she's been able to achieve and 236 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 3: the money she's amassed from doing what she does. Most 237 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 3: of what she does I can't even describe when a 238 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 3: family friendly program like this, But is that speak of 239 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 3: a societal issue? Are we fairly seek as a society 240 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 3: that a characterized. 241 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 6: Has always been a market for this kind of things? 242 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 3: There since this matter? This is like. 243 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 6: She's weaponized it in a monetary way that is unprecedented. 244 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that it seems to be that sort of 245 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 3: porn culture Colline, but on steroids. 246 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, completely, And she knows exactly what she's doing. She 247 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 5: has monetized sexual activity. 248 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 3: And it is this. 249 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 5: You know, I'm a bit of a libertarian, So on 250 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 5: the one hand, it's everybody's business what they do, but 251 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 5: that's actually not what's She's not doing it privately. I 252 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 5: think that's part of this component, is that she has 253 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 5: commercialized it in a way and a very targeted audience 254 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 5: that barely old enough to know, you know, how she's manipulated. 255 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 3: And it's normalizing I think, levels of depravity that perhaps 256 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 3: shouldn't be normalized. And it's one thing to do things 257 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 3: in private, but like you said, this isn't private at all, Patrick, 258 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 3: Carla and Colleen Harken thank you so much for your time. 259 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 3: A county court jury has found a man from a 260 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 3: high profile Victorian family guilty of raping a woman in 261 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. Suppression orders have prevented the media naming 262 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 3: this man and publishing details about his well known family. 263 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 3: The whole case has been shrouded in secrecies since the 264 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 3: charges were laid last year. The suppression orders in place 265 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 3: have also covered the man's girlfriend and his friend, who 266 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 3: were both witnesses in the trial. Joining me now is 267 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 3: one of Australia's most experienced media law practitioners and partner 268 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 3: at top tier law firm Thompson Guere. Justin quil justin 269 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 3: how can there be a conviction and still no name published? 270 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, work, It seems pretty extraordinary, doesn't it. And I 271 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: suspect it wouldn't happen if we were in another state. 272 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: But Victoria is the suppression capital of Australia. 273 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: There's not much doubt about that. The numbers suggest. 274 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 2: That more suppress orders are made in Victoria than the 275 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: rest of Australia and all the other states combined, which 276 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 2: was extraordinary statistic. So yet this is a concern. 277 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 3: So is this about protecting the rapist and his well 278 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 3: known family, or is it protecting the victim in this 279 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 3: case and protecting her identity. 280 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: So victims in sexual offenses cases automatically suppressed. Their names 281 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: are suppressed by virtue of the operation of legislation. So 282 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: there's no need for a suppression order over the identity 283 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: of a defendant, unless, of course, there's unusual circumstances, if 284 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 2: it was an incess case or something like that, it's 285 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 2: not relevant here. So this is absolutely not to protect 286 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: the victim at all. And now we're not title to 287 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: talk about the reasons for the suppress order. I think 288 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: we could say that it was a suppression order sort 289 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: and obtained by by that we can now call in 290 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 2: the rapist. But as to the reasons for the suppress order, 291 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 2: we can't identify those either. 292 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 3: But it sounds like Victoria has a transparency problem. Why 293 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 3: are we the suppression state? Why do we have more 294 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: suppression orders in this state than every other state combined. 295 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 8: Yeah. 296 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: My theory is that it probably comes from something twenty 297 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: years ago when we had the gang Lan War and 298 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,479 Speaker 2: you had all sorts of cases crossing over against each other, 299 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:40,239 Speaker 2: drug cases, murder cases, corrupt police officers involved in some 300 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: of these cases, and there was probably a need for 301 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: more suppression orders than normal, and it got into the psyche. 302 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 2: I think barristers now asked their clients, you know, would 303 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 2: you like a suppression order? I think it's almost part 304 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: and parcel of the first interview a barrister has with it. 305 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: Now you ask any person, whether they're charged with murder, rape, 306 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: or or drink driving, would you like your name in 307 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 2: the paper or not in the PA. We all know 308 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: what they're going to say exactly, and so I think 309 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: then you get more applications for suppress orders. Puts judge 310 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: in a tough position, and therefore you get more suppression orders. 311 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 3: It seems it's been normalized in Victoria, and the whole 312 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 3: transparency argument seems to have been forgotten. Now forgetting the 313 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 3: case we just discussed. As talking more broadly about suppression 314 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 3: orders in Victoria, what are some of the reasons they 315 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 3: are granted? What sort of justifications would a defense council 316 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 3: have to make to convince a judge that a suppression 317 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 3: order is warranted? 318 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, put in this case aside. There's a whole 319 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: stack of reasons. You know, you might have someone's safety, 320 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 2: you know, if I'm identified in this case, someone's going 321 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: to be able to get me. They're going to shoot 322 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: me on what have you. You might have prejudice to 323 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 2: the administration of justice, where they're saying, if this is reported, 324 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: it's going to hurt my chances of getting a fair 325 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 2: trial in front of the jury. One of the things 326 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 2: that we're seeing a lot of recently is people turning 327 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 2: up to court with a psychiatrist report and saying, my 328 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 2: mental harm is going to be impacted. Now, it used 329 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 2: to be the case before the twenty and thirteen ironically 330 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 2: termed Open Courts Act was passed. It used to be 331 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 2: the case that it was you had to show physical safety. 332 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: Now it's only safety. The word physical was removed from 333 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: the Act, and so it probably wasn't thought about it 334 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 2: in two thousand. People didn't think about safety as including 335 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: a person's mental well being. Well now it is, and 336 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 2: it is becoming quite a prevalent argument, and it's an 337 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 2: argument that frankly, the media organizations find it close to 338 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: impossible to argue with because you're arguing with a psychiatrist 339 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: who isn't it's not their job to fact check what 340 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 2: they're being told. And then we can't cross examine the 341 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: defendant who's asking for it, so that's one of the 342 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: real problems. But look, there's a whole stack of reasons and. 343 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 3: That looks sounds like it's something that could be abused 344 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 3: quite extensively. And like you said, anyone who's before the courts, 345 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 3: particularly if they have any sort of profile, wouldn't want 346 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 3: their name in the paper associated with any crime, particularly 347 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 3: something serious. So it almost seems like a double standard 348 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 3: here where if you have the means, if you've got 349 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 3: the wealth and a profile, you can have the privacy 350 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 3: of not having your name published. 351 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's absolutely the case. I've got to say. 352 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 2: I think it's less about the profile and more about 353 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: the money. You know, if you have the money to 354 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 2: afford the psychiatrists and afford the good barristers to argue 355 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 2: these applications for suppression orders, you're more likely to get it. 356 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: So look, it's a matter of great concern and the 357 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 2: public's be right to be concerned about it, and hopefully 358 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 2: both government and opposition have a really good look at 359 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 2: this in coming months. 360 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 3: Justin quil, thank you so much for your time. Thanks 361 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 3: Nder coming up left these Losing It pass an incredible 362 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 3: case showing free speech is dead in the UK. Kosha 363 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 3: Gator joins me. Next, you're watching the Rita Panny Show, 364 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 3: and it's time for lefties losing it. Let's check in 365 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 3: on a British musician losing it right here in Australia. 366 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 3: The lead singer of Garbage, who back in the day 367 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 3: produced some exceptional music, not for a while now, but 368 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 3: the lead singer these days is donning outfits and the 369 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 3: Palestinian colors, ranting about genocide and having an absolute meltdown 370 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 3: over a beach ball. 371 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 4: I'm good if you're beach ball. I'm so scared of you, 372 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 4: so thrilled by you. What the douchebag? 373 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 3: Oh that wasn't it. There was a lot more. This 374 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 3: is about to get weird, folks. 375 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 4: Literally makes me want to beg people to go over 376 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 4: there and punch you in the face. 377 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: Oh you're getting rid of the balloon? 378 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 4: No, yeah, you beges. Wow, Oh my god, it's so cool. 379 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 4: It's just really just like you go over it. 380 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 381 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 4: It's disrespectful and musicians hard enough and we're fed. 382 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: Of not getting properly. 383 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 4: I'm having to play produced bags like you. You're a 384 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:41,479 Speaker 4: athlete man in a ridiculous hat. 385 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 3: That dude in the ridiculous hat has paid to watch 386 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 3: live music, Shirley, he's paid to support musicians to what 387 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 3: you perform at the Good Things Festival in Melbourne, and 388 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 3: that meltdown only got worse. Shirley Manson was actually hoping 389 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 3: that that poor bloke got bashed up. I mean, this 390 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 3: is unhinged, and. 391 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 9: I won't literally ask people to. 392 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 3: Lady, but truly. 393 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 4: You know what I want because i'd to you because 394 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 4: you're a small. 395 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 3: Man with a small What is wrong with you? Ladies? 396 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 3: Surely you can't be serious. One beach ball got that response, 397 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 3: and then she doubled down on that behavior, releasing a 398 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 3: statement justifying it. She said she makes no apologies whatsoever. 399 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 3: I guess what she did issue an apology because even 400 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 3: the lefty music world turned on her. Here is stand Atlantic, 401 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 3: who are appearing with Garbage and the Good Things Festival. 402 00:23:52,960 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 3: This is how they started their set in Sydney. Second 403 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 3: and I got to say, I have never been more 404 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 3: proud of Brisbane. This is how they responded to Shirley's 405 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 3: tandrum by bringing dozens of beach balls to the Brisbane performance. Yep, 406 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 3: this is how you respond to a lefty losing it. 407 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 4: If you're ready for if you're ready for if you're 408 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 4: ready for balls, if you're ready for balls, if. 409 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 3: You're ready for ready, Well done, Brisbane, and you did 410 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 3: us proud. And I think it was after that that 411 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 3: Shirley Manson finally read the room and apologize. And of 412 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 3: course he's changing lyrics now, but of course, like a 413 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 3: good lefty, like a typical cry bully, she's playing the 414 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 3: victim and virtue signaling. 415 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 7: So the only thing. 416 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 4: That kind of shops you a level is that there's 417 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 4: been more fast need re offending the two parsin I 418 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 4: would just like to remind you all but actually is 419 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 4: important in this life, and so that I apologize if 420 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 4: I have sess you about your resifies balls Reaporogi. 421 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 3: I don't think people are upset they were insulting beach balls, Shirley. 422 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 3: I think it was the threats of violence against a 423 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 3: poor dude who happened to have one at your performance. 424 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 3: Now time to see what's Saturday Night Live are up to. 425 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 3: And they have decided to mock War Secretary Pete Hexeth, 426 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 3: but they just made him seem cooler and hotter. 427 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 6: Shut the hell up. 428 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 3: Shut it cut the music. 429 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 10: What first things First, we're the fatties. 430 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 7: You out. 431 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 8: What? 432 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 3: I'm not even fato? 433 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 7: Really, you think you're hiding in under that blazer porky. 434 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 3: That's supposed to make me hide. It's not working in base. 435 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 3: Now listen up. 436 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 7: As you probably read in some gay newspaper, we're now 437 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 7: at war with Venezuela. 438 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 3: Oh you nerds are like link? 439 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 7: But was there an official declaration of war? Yeah, that's 440 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 7: right here, superfinger, Dan Cook. Now you got questions for me? Fine, 441 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 7: pretend I'm a random fishing boat and fire away. 442 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 3: Oh, random fishing boat. We're going with that narrative always 443 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 3: Saturday Live now talking about fatties. Imagine how much time 444 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 3: you must have on your hands and how desperate you 445 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 3: must be to be offended that you take issue with this? 446 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 11: Why is there dire culture on the parking meters? Why 447 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 11: do we have on the parking meters Sometimes our dia 448 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 11: don't feed me on the following holidays? Why are we 449 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 11: promoting fatphobia and dire culture even on the parking meters 450 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 11: in la I just it gets to a point. Everything 451 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 11: use gets to a point. This is an issue and 452 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 11: this needs to be fixed. Was Hollywood. This is actually disgusting. 453 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 3: Joining me now is Sky News contributor Kosher, Gayta and Kosher. 454 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 3: We have a lot of US news to unpack, but 455 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 3: let's start in the UK and the extraordinary case of 456 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 3: former footballer Joey Barton, who has been handed a suspended 457 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 3: sentence for social media posts that caused distress and anxiety. 458 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 3: These were posts about broadcaster Jeremy Vine and a couple 459 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 3: of soccer pundits. Free speech is well really dead in 460 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 3: the UK. Let's hear from Judge Andrew Mineri at the 461 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 3: Liverpool Crown Court after a jury found the ex Manchester 462 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 3: City and Newcastle player guilty. 463 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: I have no doubt that neither a finer loan nor 464 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: a community order can be justified, and that the custody 465 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: threshold is crossed. There will be concurrent terms of imprisonment 466 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: for each of these associated offenses, the sentences for each 467 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: reflecting your overall offending. I'm satisfied that it's not necessary 468 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: for those custodial terms to be served immediately in light 469 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: of the steps you have taken. I am persuaded that 470 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: there is some prospect of rehabilitation. 471 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 3: Kosher. Well, I'm glad the re education is working and 472 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 3: is not going to jail, has got a suspended term there, 473 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 3: but it's also been hit with two hundred hours of 474 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 3: unpaid working the community at more than twenty thousand pounds 475 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 3: pounds in costs, all for social media post calling a 476 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 3: couple of soccer pundits, the Fred and Rose West of 477 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 3: football commentary and superimposing their heads on that infamous picture 478 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 3: of Fred and Roysemary West. I mean, really the whole 479 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 3: notion that you can be brought before the courts found guilty, 480 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 3: positively sentenced to jail for things that are causing anxiety, 481 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 3: not things that are defametory, things that are threatening, things 482 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 3: that are just offensive. 483 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 8: Another one bites the dust and it is extra sad. 484 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 8: In the UK, land of the Magna Carta. We've talked 485 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 8: about this before, you know, the birthplace of the principle 486 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 8: of free speech, and to see that happening there just 487 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 8: cuts extra deep. And when they go after cultural figures 488 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 8: or famous people, imperfect though they may be, Joey Barton 489 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 8: and others Grand Graham, Leneham, the comedian my father's had 490 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 8: creator recently in others, it is a high stakes move 491 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 8: because it does tend to stir more of the disbelief 492 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 8: from the public a little bit. You're seeing the power 493 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 8: structure as making an example of them. I do think 494 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 8: that's partly why they're going after it. But there is 495 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 8: a flip side to that coin, where hopefully you're going 496 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 8: to see some kind of backlashing people. 497 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 3: I'm not sure that's the case though, because they're the 498 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 3: cases we hear about. I mean, this is a famous individual, 499 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 3: Graham's famous, but there are a frightening number of people 500 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,479 Speaker 3: who are hit with these chargers, who have people show up, 501 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 3: police officers show up to their house. 502 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 8: To the woman paying in front of the abortion clinic 503 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 8: and all those people. 504 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 3: There's so many grandmothers for sharing memes on social media. 505 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 3: And just the case recently which did get a lot 506 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 3: of media attention, thankfully, which was a young woman who 507 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 3: was put in hospital after an assault and she caught 508 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 3: her alleged assailant a homophobic slur in a private text 509 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 3: message to somebody. 510 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 8: She knew, snitched on her, whitched on her. 511 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 3: She had eleven police officers house up to eleven. 512 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 8: It was just that one because she literally physically was 513 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 8: a victim. My point is, maybe if they go after 514 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 8: famous people, the devil is overplaying its hand. But we 515 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 8: you know, we shall see, we shall see, because not yet. 516 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 8: And if you just look at the judge over there, 517 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 8: they really seem to believe this principle, which is that 518 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 8: words can harm people. And the whole point of free 519 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 8: speech is that the answer to speech you don't lake 520 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 8: is more speech, not less speech. And words do not kill, 521 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 8: no matter what they are. 522 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 3: But in the UK, social media posts that caused distress 523 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 3: and anxiety could see you before the courts and with 524 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 3: a conviction just madness. Now let's go to the US, 525 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 3: and the press is continuing to focus on the Naco 526 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,479 Speaker 3: boat and the drug runners that were neutralized with two 527 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 3: separate strikes, and President Trump's patience seems to be wavering, 528 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 3: admitting to releasing the full video. 529 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 12: Did not just tell you that said it was a secretary, 530 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 12: nonoxious reporter in the whole place. Let me just tell 531 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 12: you you are an obnoxious, a terrible actually a terrible reporter. 532 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 8: Is the same thing with you. 533 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 12: I told you, whatever Pete HEXF wants. 534 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 3: To do is okay with me, Kosher. I get the 535 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 3: feeling that the Republicans are quite happy with the media's 536 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 3: fixation on this issue, because the average American really doesn't 537 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 3: care about how these narco terrorists are being blown up 538 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 3: in the Caribbean Ocean or the Pacific Eastern Pacific Ocean. 539 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 3: They're quite happy for these drugs not to be coming 540 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 3: into the country. 541 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,959 Speaker 8: Absolutely, politically, this is a slam dunk just immigration. More 542 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 8: broadly for the presidents occurring the border stopping the infloid fentanel. 543 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 8: This fits into that there is a little subcurrent on 544 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 8: the rate of people worried that this is indicative of 545 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 8: excalatory action against Venezuela the country potentially, so you know 546 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 8: that maybe is a side point, but broadly this issue 547 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 8: has full support of the people. The real reason, I 548 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 8: think for why the Democrats are doing this, though, the 549 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 8: real agenda is not the political hit. It is laying 550 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 8: the groundwroad for impeachment three to dot zero five DOTO. 551 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 8: If they take the House and the Senate, I think 552 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 8: we're going to be seeing them finding all sorts of 553 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 8: things to throw at President Trump and hamstring him further 554 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 8: and maybe even impeach him finally. 555 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 3: So that's what this is about. That seems to be 556 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 3: their only plan, impeachment, and I think Trumps doesn't care 557 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 3: about that, and now I mean it cares about it 558 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 3: dominating the media and taking oxygen away from what he's 559 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 3: actually trying to implement. But I don't think he cares 560 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 3: about being impeached. I could personally care about the indictment. 561 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 3: That's their bogus. 562 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, that is kind of his superpower. He doesn't care 563 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 8: about the negative publicity if you will, and the fact 564 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 8: that he won't run again, maybe they won't go for it, 565 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 8: but it is all about stop running out the clock, basically, 566 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 8: And he's got three years left. If they're hamstring him 567 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 8: for half that time where he's defending an apeachment trial, 568 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 8: he won't be doing other things to advance his agenda. 569 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 3: Now to an issue that deserves far greater coverage always did, 570 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 3: and that's the plight of children forced into labor or 571 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 3: trafficked for sex after they crossed the southern border without parents. 572 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 3: Without their parents under the Biden administration, whistleblowers have alleyed 573 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 3: that more than three hundred thousand migrant children. Some estimate 574 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 3: around five hundred thousand were missing or lost due to 575 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 3: the Biden administration's border crisis. Borders. Our Tom Homan spoke 576 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 3: this week about tens of thousands of these children being rescued. 577 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 13: Children that weren't even being looked for, and by administration, 578 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 13: President Trump saved over sixty two thousand children's lives. Some 579 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 13: of these children sex trafficking, we found, some were in 580 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 13: forced labor, some were being mistreated. I can't even discuss 581 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 13: some of the mistreatment we found out about. 582 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 3: A Department of Homeland Security report last year concluded that 583 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 3: ICE had released hundreds of thousands of migrant children without 584 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 3: notices to appear in court during the Biden presidency and 585 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 3: they have no way to track them after these children 586 00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 3: cross the border as unaccompanied minus kosher. Again, one issue 587 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 3: that should be getting so much more media scrutiny, if well, 588 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 3: if the media wasn't obsessed with Naco boats and Naco terrorists. 589 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 8: One hundred percent. This is one of many and probably 590 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 8: the worst cost untold undertold cost of the illegal immigration crisis, 591 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 8: which is what it is. And there's entire organizations that 592 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 8: are taking children, using them as a passport figuratively speaking, 593 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 8: to enter the country because you can latch onto that 594 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 8: and then get more favorable case verdicts for asylum and 595 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 8: other things like that, even if they're not their their 596 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 8: own children, and then as you decided that the previous 597 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 8: administration didn't care, there's anywhere from three hundred to five 598 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 8: hundred thousand children. We can only imagine the conditions they're 599 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 8: in and what they've been made to do. And if 600 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 8: they recovered sixty two thousand, as Tomhoman said, we're ten 601 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 8: to twenty percent of the way there, and so hopefully, 602 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 8: hopefully this would be another great outcome of this presidency. 603 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 8: If they keep up that pace, that they'll be pretty 604 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 8: close to eighty ninety percent of them recovering. Sadly not 605 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 8: all of them will be. And maybe an aside, but 606 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 8: since they will never President Trump the Peace Prize, maybe 607 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 8: somebody should nominate Tom Holman for the Peace Prize for 608 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 8: rescuering in hundreds of thousands of children, hopefully by the 609 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 8: end of this term. 610 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 3: Now, we discussed the time the viral video of Tish Hyman, 611 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 3: who is a black lesbian who encountered a male body 612 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 3: in the women's locker room, a naked male body, and 613 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 3: because she objected, she was the one band from the gym. Well, 614 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 3: she has been attending events with Democrat politicians and politely 615 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 3: asking them why they back policies that put women in 616 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 3: danger here she is with Roy Khan. 617 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 4: Women including myself, are being harassed aunt in our locker rooms. 618 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 3: In my case was a hated domestic confuser who broke 619 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 3: his wife jaw so badly. 620 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 12: Why is she a sensational warning about hypothetical jermes and 621 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 12: chess and the real harassment of girls is happening right 622 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 12: here under her current lives. That has nothing to do 623 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 12: with my ideal with someone who. 624 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 10: Experience and will identifying as as a woman saying that 625 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 10: they can keep using the liner room about room with 626 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 10: the identified with that is there right now? 627 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 12: If that person. 628 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 3: So frustrating Kochet, he just doesn't get it. It's all 629 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 3: about self id with these clowns. Even he even wants 630 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 3: male bodies competing in women's sport as long as those 631 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 3: male bodies identify as female. He completely missed the point 632 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 3: there because that individual did have a history of violence, 633 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 3: terrible violence. But according to Rokhana, what he was doing 634 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 3: in that locker room was perfectly fine because he identifies 635 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 3: as a woman and he wasn't beating anyone up at 636 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 3: that time, so he was entitled to be there. 637 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 8: Metal I think if he truly didn't get it, it 638 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 8: would almost be better. I think the reality is he 639 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 8: does get it, yeah, and he's being a coward. He's 640 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 8: being a complete coward because he is hiding behind the 641 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 8: legal argument that there's no legal remedy for assaulting somebody 642 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 8: or sorry, arresting somebody before they've committed and assault just 643 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 8: because they entered the wrong bathroom. If a male enters 644 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 8: a female bathroom, there's no legal recourse. So he's hiding 645 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 8: behind that technicality rather than being bold and brave and 646 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 8: seeing what we all know is real projecting women's spaces. 647 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 8: He has two kids. One is a daughter. I think 648 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 8: she's eight or ten years old. I'm sure he would 649 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 8: have a big problem if boys are competing in sports 650 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 8: with her. And I don't know this, but I can 651 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 8: I would posit that that's a safe bet to make. 652 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 8: Or she found herself in a public bathroom, or an 653 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,399 Speaker 8: intact male was in there, so he's just paying lip 654 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 8: service because that is what the Democrat passage. 655 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't even know at this stage whether 656 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 3: they genuinely believe these positions or it's just part and 657 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 3: parcel of the ideology they've signed up to, so they've 658 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 3: got to mouth these ridiculous notions without actually believing them. 659 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 3: It's somewhere it really doesn't matter. 660 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 8: It doesn't matter. 661 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 3: It's worse, I mean because the people being impacted, like Tish. 662 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if the politician's implementing these crazy policies 663 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 3: actually believe in them or not, because there are victims 664 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 3: of it every day. 665 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 8: And I hope she gets louder because for a black, 666 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 8: lesbian Democrat voter from California to become a face press 667 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 8: criticize that it's something they probably don't have on their 668 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:14,959 Speaker 8: bingo code. 669 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 3: Exactly, Koshergator, thank you so much for your time. Pleasure 670 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 3: coming up. Democrat congress Woman Jasmine Crockett wants black people 671 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 3: to stop paying taxes. More on that with Alex Stein 672 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 3: Welcome back. It's a fine time to check on the 673 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,280 Speaker 3: woman of many accents. No, not Kamala Harris, but private 674 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 3: school educated Jasmine Crockett. Here she is suggesting that it'd 675 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 3: be a great idea if black folk didn't pay taxes. 676 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 3: She heard a celebrity say it, so you know it's 677 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:56,320 Speaker 3: a good idea. 678 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 9: Is this past week I saw I don't remember which celebrity, 679 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 9: but it was actually a celebrity and I was like, 680 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 9: I don't know that that's not necessarily a bad idea, 681 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 9: but I'd have to think thro wou a lot. One 682 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 9: of the things that they proposed is black folk not 683 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,919 Speaker 9: have to pay taxes for a certain amount of time, 684 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 9: because then again, that puts money back in your pocket. 685 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 3: But at the same time, it may not be. 686 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,240 Speaker 9: As objectionable to some people about actually giving out dollars, 687 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 9: but obviously then you start dealing with the different tax 688 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 9: brackets and things like that. And that's one of the 689 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 9: reasons that, you know, we argue that reparations makes sense 690 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 9: because so many black folk not only do you owe 691 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 9: for the labor that was stolen and killed and all 692 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 9: the other things, right, but the fact is, like we 693 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 9: end up being so far behind. 694 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 3: That's Democrat Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett and she now wants to 695 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 3: be Senator. Jasmine Crockett. She is running for the US 696 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 3: Senate in twenty twenty six and this is her first 697 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 3: campaign video. It's just basically President Trump describing her as 698 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 3: a low iq hard left radical. Pretty accurate. Really, How 699 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 3: about this new one? 700 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,280 Speaker 6: They have their new star Crockett? 701 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 8: How about her? 702 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 12: She's the new star of the Democrat Party, Jasmine Cricket. 703 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 12: They're in big trouble. But you have this woman Crockett. 704 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 12: She's a very low IQ person. I watched her speak 705 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 12: the other day. 706 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 2: She's definitely a low IQ person. Crockett. 707 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:27,280 Speaker 3: Oh man, oh man, she's a very low IQ person. 708 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 12: Somebody said the other day she's one of the leaders 709 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 12: of the party. 710 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 7: I think you gotta be kidding. 711 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 12: Now, they're going to rely on Crockett's going to bring 712 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 12: them back. 713 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 3: Really, it's hard to work out if that's a Democrat 714 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 3: or a Republican. Commercial let's bring in comedian Alex Stein. 715 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 3: Alex Jasmine Crockett wants to be a senator for the 716 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,760 Speaker 3: great state of Texas, your state. What are the chances? 717 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 7: Not only is she representing my state, she represents my 718 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 7: district where my office. Let me tell you something. She's 719 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 7: an embarrassment to the city of Dallas. And she's not 720 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 7: even from Dallas. She's not even from Texas. So she's 721 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 7: a literal carpetbagger. But you know, this is the thing 722 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 7: when it comes to Jasmine Crockett, I actually agree that 723 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 7: black people shouldn't pay taxes. As a fellow black man, 724 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 7: I actually do agree with her on that. So I 725 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 7: don't want to talk about that because she's right about that. 726 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,320 Speaker 7: Now everything else she is wrong about and she is 727 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 7: going to get humiliated against Kim paxon if Kim Pax 728 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 7: and Beach John Corner in the primary. So I'm just 729 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 7: going to tell you this. The state of Texas did 730 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 7: elect her as a congressman, but the chances of her 731 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,720 Speaker 7: getting elected as a senator is zero percent. 732 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,439 Speaker 3: So you're you're all all on board on black people 733 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 3: not paying taxes. I didn't realize you were transracial. You 734 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 3: identify as African American, yes I do. 735 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 7: I and a Filipino as well. So listen, this is 736 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 7: just what identify as. Whether you believe it or not, 737 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 7: this is my right. So if you don't agree with that, 738 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 7: you're the racist. 739 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,879 Speaker 3: You're the bigot. That's the rules these days. Yes, you're 740 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,760 Speaker 3: right there. Now, there are a bunch of brave celebrities, 741 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 3: singers and actors who have been honored at the White 742 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 3: House where they receive their Kennedy Center honors. They get 743 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 3: medals for that, and then they go to a beautiful 744 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:15,839 Speaker 3: gala event at Washington, DC venue. Let's have a look 745 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 3: at the president giving these people their honors. 746 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 12: On behalf of every American who has been inspired by 747 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 12: the unbelievable talent of Michael Crawford, who has been influenced 748 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 12: by the music of George Strait or Gloria Gainer or Kiss, 749 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 12: or who has been moved by Sylvester Stallone's unmatched heart 750 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 12: and talent and grit, because nobody played that role and 751 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 12: nobody will ever play. 752 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 3: That role like sly Alex. The President said they had 753 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 3: defined entire genres and set new standards for the performing arts. 754 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 3: But I say they brave because to be accepting an 755 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 3: award like this from President Trump, it could be very 756 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 3: as it is to your career in the entertainment world. 757 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 3: We know they've got that new age McCarthyism where if 758 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 3: you're a conservative or even tolerant of conservatism, you may 759 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 3: stop working. 760 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 7: No. And it's funny because you know, you call them brave, 761 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,760 Speaker 7: and I know you're saying that a little fit sciously, 762 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 7: but also you're being honest, because this is really where 763 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 7: we're at. This is the political climate where these celebrities 764 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 7: will lose brand deals, they'll lose everything, they'll loser agency 765 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 7: if they just are just even sympathetic to that side. Like, 766 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 7: they don't even have to be conservative, but if they're 767 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 7: sympathetic to conservatives, that is enough to get canceled. So 768 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,919 Speaker 7: I just want to say sliced the loone. His role 769 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,320 Speaker 7: of Rocky is arguably one of the greatest movies of 770 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,280 Speaker 7: all time, so he definitely deserved that award. Now, George Straight, 771 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 7: I'm sure you've heard all the rumors about I don't 772 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 7: know if you're true or not. I love George. 773 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 3: He's the King. I'm just saying I have heard no rumors. Okay, 774 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 3: I am not listening to any rumors. I will not 775 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 3: listen to rumors about George Strait. Do not tell me 776 00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 3: any king. Thank you. They say courage is courageous that 777 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:07,240 Speaker 3: he We've got another actor coming forward and making statements 778 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 3: about Donald Trump that a few years ago would see 779 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,320 Speaker 3: him possibly literally run out of Hollywood. Kelsey Grammer, the 780 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 3: man behind the Brilliant comedy series Fraser, has praised Donald Trump. 781 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 3: In an interview ahead of the Kennedy Center Honors, he said, 782 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 3: I think he's extraordinary. He's one of the greatest presidents 783 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,399 Speaker 3: we've ever had, maybe the greatest. Alex also said it's 784 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 3: great to have somebody as president who actually means what 785 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 3: they say. 786 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 7: You know, that's probably the best thing about Trump is 787 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 7: that you know that he loves America and he actually 788 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,360 Speaker 7: means it when he says it, not a lot, not 789 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 7: like all these other politicians. But Kelsey Grammer his role 790 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 7: in Frasier, he was an icon. He's another guy that 791 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 7: was just in the latest Avengers movie. He can lose 792 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 7: a lot of credibility in Hollywood supporting Donald Trump. So 793 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 7: I just want to give him a lot of credit 794 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,720 Speaker 7: for being brave and you know, speaking out and supporting 795 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 7: President Trump because really everything he said is correct. I 796 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,760 Speaker 7: think Donald Trump is the best president of my lifetime, 797 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 7: and he's one of the best presidents. You know, he's 798 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,400 Speaker 7: not perfect, but no president is. But I truly believe 799 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 7: that he wants to make this country a better place, 800 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 7: and that was not the case with the last administration. 801 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 3: And we're not exaggerating this. This situation that exists in 802 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 3: Hollywood and entertainment world in general, where people are ostracized 803 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 3: if they're not from the left. You've got in the 804 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 3: moment someone as big as Taylor Swift copying criticism even 805 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 3: though she's a Democrat, even though she's campaign for Democrats 806 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 3: because she's stopped issuing political messages. She's copying some heat. 807 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 3: But if you actually come out and say I'm a 808 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 3: Republican or I respect the president. I don't hate President Trump. 809 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 3: In fact, I admire him, that could be the end 810 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 3: of your career. That could see you not get any 811 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 3: further work. So it does take some guts to make 812 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 3: statements like that. Alex Google's year in search data for 813 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five has re I feel that Charlie Kirk 814 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 3: was the number one trending search in the US. More 815 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 3: broadly than that, I know you two were friends. I 816 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 3: know you do work for Turning Point. How do you 817 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 3: see Charlie's legacy He's enduring legacy? 818 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 7: Well, you know, this is a question that I've got 819 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,840 Speaker 7: a lot I've had to answer just from friends and family, 820 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,840 Speaker 7: because everybody wants to know about Charlie. And you know, 821 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,320 Speaker 7: there's a saying that the art gets better when the 822 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 7: artist dies, and that is true. You know, now people 823 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 7: are realizing how incredible Charlie Kirk was, and I think 824 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,760 Speaker 7: that's so great and that his legacy will last forever. 825 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,320 Speaker 7: But I'm still so torn inside reader because it doesn't 826 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 7: matter how long his legacy will last, and I'm sure 827 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 7: it'll last forever. If he was alive, he would have 828 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 7: made this country so incredibly great. And so even though 829 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 7: his legacy now will be much bigger than it probably 830 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 7: you know, even if he was president now, with the 831 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,320 Speaker 7: horrible tragic getting into his life, nobody will ever forget 832 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 7: Charlie Kirk. His name will resonate with people for years 833 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 7: and years and years. But this country would be so 834 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 7: much of a better place if we just still had 835 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,439 Speaker 7: Charlie with us. It just makes me sick thinking about 836 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 7: it every day. Riada, I'm just so sad. 837 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 3: I can understand, and I agree with you. I think 838 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 3: you would have been president one day. It's just such 839 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 3: a such a tragedy for the country. Now, before you go, 840 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 3: I'm going to play you some footage that has just 841 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:27,879 Speaker 3: gone viral from Texas showing the Henrietta Bearcats football team 842 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,799 Speaker 3: getting an amazing send off, and only in Texas send 843 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:49,720 Speaker 3: off before a playoff game, Alex, that's a high school 844 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 3: football team getting a send off like that. Texas is 845 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:53,359 Speaker 3: something else. 846 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 7: Friday night lights, Rita is very real. It is a 847 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,399 Speaker 7: religion here in Texas. And let me just tell you, though, 848 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 7: if you guys saw that clip. The Henrietta Bearcats dominated 849 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 7: after that game, rightfully so so you know, people might 850 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,840 Speaker 7: not realize that that actually does get us motivated to 851 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 7: go fight. Like here, there's that cardinal instinct riding a 852 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,439 Speaker 7: big thousand pounds horse, seeing another man do it, it'll 853 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 7: get you fired up for a football game. And that's 854 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 7: what Texa high school football is all about, just fighting, 855 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 7: being tough, and you know it's a Texas way. 856 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,400 Speaker 3: You need to send me a bear Cat's cap very quickly, 857 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,839 Speaker 3: Alex Alex Stein, thank you for your time, and that's 858 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 3: it for me. I'll see you're to live in tomorrow. 859 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 3: Not New's not is up next