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Speaker 2: Let's talk about cheating for a minute. There was this survey,

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Speaker 1: If you've cheated because they.

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Speaker 2: Because this is what the survey states. As far as

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Speaker 3: First, you know you.

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Speaker 2: Did you did it first. And so the only way

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Speaker 3: It depends what you want, and it depends what the

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's how it happened. And you know what,

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Speaker 3: there's no winners. Even if you do at the end of.

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Speaker 4: It, are you then going ah, even you're not, it's

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Speaker 4: a bit Don't ask me how my night was last night.

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Speaker 3: Let's just say even Stevens.

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Speaker 2: One of the stories is that the this woman was

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Speaker 3: Friend got involved physically.

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Speaker 5: Yes, this is Do you know the other story I'd

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Speaker 4: When you find out that your partner's cheating with someone

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Speaker 5: Partner swap?

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Speaker 3: Does it happen?

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Speaker 4: George has given us a cook Now you were cheated on, George.

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Speaker 4: What was the first thing going through your mind? George.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, when she came to me about the whole thing,

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Speaker 3: Why she asked you if you did it ten years ago?

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Speaker 6: No, that was the whole thing. I had kids that

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Speaker 4: If they're turning it around, on you, George. There's a

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it's all over, and the kids don't see

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Speaker 6: far as that goes. Yes, her idea was because I'd

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Speaker 6: All her friends came to me with the same idea, Oh,

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Speaker 6: if she's done it, you should go into it mentality,

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Speaker 6: And I'm sitting there going where did this come from?

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Speaker 3: She cheated for ten years and then played the victim.

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Speaker 6: George, Yeah, that was the worst person in the world.

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Speaker 6: Why was me and all the stuff I went up?

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Speaker 3: Did you know who the guy was?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah. There was no way to work and back

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Speaker 4: Did she say that she had evidence of you cheating George?

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Speaker 6: Now she was under the same idea that she was

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Speaker 2: Well, I think a lot of it is about not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, George, is she still with the other guy? And

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Speaker 6: And it was the worst thing, It was a big mistake.

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Speaker 3: Something, have you found love?

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Speaker 5: George?

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Speaker 6: No, not this way, not.

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Speaker 3: This one, George.

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Speaker 2: We've all done it at some point, do you have

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Speaker 4: You call with her.

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Speaker 2: We've all we all have different ones on well when

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Speaker 3: That massive. Yeah, yes, I have.

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Speaker 5: The Imperial March from Star Wars. Whenever he rings me.

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Speaker 3: I never seen starts. Assume there was a joke there somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Some people just like have the death like the funeral

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Speaker 5: Do you know what?

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Speaker 3: You've never answered for us? And I've asked so many times.

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Speaker 3: So if I have somebody of profile in my phone,

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Speaker 2: Like Kerry and Kenney's seen as CAC everyone knows there's cack.

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Speaker 3: I certainly have you as Kate Richie, because I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't have him in there.

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Speaker 3: Tomato, I don't have him in there. What is it?

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Speaker 5: What do you have Chris Hemsworth has I don't.

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Speaker 6: Have him in there.

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Speaker 4: A hammer?

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Speaker 2: Do you know if he the hammer home and away

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Speaker 3: What do you have Liam Hamsworth House?

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Speaker 2: I don't know love a boy So if you do

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Speaker 2: it comes up as mister, I will never do that again.

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Speaker 3: Yep, do not answer this and never do that again.

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Speaker 4: It is a great reminder. I've got a very good

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Speaker 3: See Tom's in my phone as Pest, So any time

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Speaker 3: But I've got a guy in there. His name's Eddie,

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Speaker 5: Is that new Man Mountain?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Man Mountain?

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Speaker 2: Did these people know they are in? Is that name?

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Speaker 3: That's pretty open.

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Speaker 2: I had a friend who had someone she knew that

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Speaker 3: Names right, good stuff, Lizzie.

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Speaker 2: Have you done a bit of the second naming in

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Speaker 2: the phone, Lizzy.

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Speaker 7: I have.

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Speaker 4: I'm terrible.

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Speaker 1: I actually don't remember their real name. That's wasn't half

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Speaker 6: But I've got two minute man, and I've got sugar daddy.

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Speaker 4: Does he does he love noodles? Maybe I never asked that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, one of the guys here is part of the team,

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Speaker 3: has just sent on the group chat. When I was dating,

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Speaker 3: I'd name boys of our phone as experiment one three.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing. Actually, I've got a little by game here

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Speaker 2: as ready to play along the lion emoji, the slice

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Speaker 3: What was the member one line?

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Speaker 5: Pizza? The line is it to do with the Wizard

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Speaker 2: Oh that's a good one, and I reckon. We've all

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Speaker 1: This is the Fitz and Whibber with Cape Ritchie Podcast.

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Speaker 2: We are excited to have this lady in the studio.

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Speaker 4: We've just been informed that this is her last book,

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Speaker 4: Help Me Help my Teens, Supporting teens through tough Times.

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Speaker 5: We absolutely adore this lady. It's the magnificent Maggie did.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 7: Guys so good to be bad.

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Speaker 2: I'm pleasure to have you here.

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Speaker 3: How do you decide that this is your last book?

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Speaker 3: How dare you say that to us? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: No, you know, like I just I went right back

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Speaker 7: to the beginning, right back to where I taught, where

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Speaker 7: I counseled, and I thought, nah, I think I've done

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Speaker 7: everything else. All the other books are out there that

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Speaker 7: you know, you're going to see them forever. As I

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Speaker 7: said to my boys when I dropped dead, I'm everywhere

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Speaker 7: sorry about that, but it felt right.

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Speaker 1: It felt right.

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Speaker 7: And also, you know, I'm an old wise woman that

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Speaker 7: turns and says the next ones it's their turn.

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Speaker 3: I think with your skill, Maggie, we all hang off

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Speaker 3: every word. We're so, we're so keen to understand further

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Speaker 7: That's exactly right, and we're all going to muck up.

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Speaker 5: This is your last book. Don't think you get aida.

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Speaker 3: No, you're back in, Maggie.

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Speaker 7: I love to come back.

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Speaker 3: Guys, love chatting Stranger, the.

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Speaker 5: Do you know what I find humorous? You guys?

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Speaker 4: You know viral videos on Brown Cardigan or something where

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Speaker 5: There was an undercover cop right there.

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Speaker 3: Is it that jumpy you're wearing? Crimes against Fashion?

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Speaker 4: I love this cop because, you know what, he's actually

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Speaker 4: Then they found out that it was a check that

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Speaker 5: That's that makes me.

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Speaker 5: I got away with that.

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Speaker 5: And I said, well, mate, I do play the pokes.

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Speaker 5: I'm not laundering money.

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Speaker 3: they're ripping people off. Fifty billion dollars we lost last

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Speaker 1: Fits in with Ridgie Podcast.

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Speaker 4: Have your Birthday to a beautiful lady by the name

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Speaker 5: Fitzguire's birthday.

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Speaker 4: Birthday, Happy birthday, Yes, lovely mother.

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Speaker 4: We say to the boys. It's an appreciation post. Okay.

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Speaker 4: So you get a card each and you've got to

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Speaker 5: You just got to write down what mum means to you.

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Speaker 3: A girl's best friend.

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Speaker 4: Well, I've already scribbled out two lines, and I know

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Speaker 4: read this out. It's very good, okay, say he says,

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Speaker 4: dear mum. Words cannot describe how much of a loving

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Speaker 5: We would be hopeless.

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Speaker 4: It's true, then, he writes, even when you gone for

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Speaker 2: Guilt trip.

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Speaker 5: I wish you.

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Speaker 4: Another happy birthday full of love and laughter from the

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Speaker 5: I love you, Huey. He's so right.

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Speaker 4: When you aren't there is a severe impact on each

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Speaker 2: I love the spreading like sickness. Line's been quite hit

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Speaker 3: But that's that's a big deal.

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Speaker 3: That's a COVID background too, suggesting that happiness can spread

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Speaker 4: It's hereditary. It gets passed down. The happiness virus but

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Speaker 5: Bit more, but they're at that so Hugh, he's at.

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Speaker 4: The teenage years now where he's finding it difficult. So

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Speaker 4: we even, you know, even the talks around the table

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Speaker 4: now is getting into you know, obviously sitting down and

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Speaker 4: talking about girls.

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Speaker 5: We're talking about our whole drugs.

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Speaker 4: And you can tell as soon as you bring up

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Speaker 4: these subjects, they both they just start tied away. They

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Speaker 4: can't sit still. I don't want to be a part

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Speaker 4: of this.

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Speaker 3: How are you going with language? How are you going

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Speaker 3: with controlling bad language? The house is getting loose, It's

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Speaker 3: getting really loose.

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Speaker 5: They're dropping a bombs.

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Speaker 3: Oh just yeah, but they think it's funny. And then

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Speaker 3: I gave them a big talk on Saturday night about

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Speaker 3: language at dinner because it's Francesca's worked out a couple

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Speaker 3: of words and she thinks it's funny to say when

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Speaker 3: a little kid says that she's for everybody giggles. Then

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Speaker 3: we put on a movie. I can't remember what it

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Speaker 3: was called, but it was about a dog called Buck

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Speaker 3: Uncle Buck no, just buck. And then very quickly we

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Speaker 3: had a lot of laughs around the word buck.

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Speaker 5: O caame rhyme, we got your truck.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And there's even one part whether all giggling because

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Speaker 3: the dog runs off and this guy says something like, oh,

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Speaker 3: for Buck's sake. So they're playing on a little bit

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Speaker 3: for the adults but for the gusts. Yeah, and then

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Speaker 3: they start saying it, and then it becomes well, he

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Speaker 3: said it, he said it.

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Speaker 4: Don't get me don't get me wrong, though, I'm awkward

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Speaker 4: doing it because this is all new territory for me

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Speaker 4: to sit down and have these major chats to your kids'

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Speaker 4: at There's moments where I'm halfway through the chat and

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at BEJ, going I need your help you No, well, just.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's actually really nice that you're that

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Speaker 2: you are implementing that in your home.

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Speaker 3: But these are all chats HR has had with you, mate,

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Speaker 3: So if you just write down notes when.

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Speaker 5: Well, I.

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Speaker 4: Just thought it was appropriate to have HR there at

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Speaker 4: the dinner table with this last night, just to make

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Speaker 4: sure I was getting everything right. I'll just interject their f.

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Speaker 1: This is the Fits and with Kate Richie Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about this because the cost of living, as

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Speaker 3: we have spoken about a lot on this show. Do

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Speaker 3: you know what stat I heard this morning that with

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Speaker 3: the average way each here in Sydney, we'll call it

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Speaker 3: Australia if you want, why don't we round it out,

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Speaker 3: Let's call it Australia. The average wage in Australia and

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Speaker 3: the average housing cost means that you would need to

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Speaker 3: save for forty six years for a deposit to buy

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Speaker 3: the average house here. I'm going to bring it back

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Speaker 3: in in Sydney. Forty six years the deposit just for

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Speaker 3: the deposit on the average priced house in Sydney.

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Speaker 2: Hopeful, isn't it?

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Speaker 4: You're not saving much though you could save a bit more,

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Speaker 4: couldn't you.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's what they're saying with the average wage. If

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Speaker 3: you're putting x amount or whatever's recommended as your average

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Speaker 3: money aside every week after you the money to pay

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Speaker 3: for the problem now is too when you have when

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Speaker 3: you know you meant to be saving, but you have

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Speaker 3: such a long runway. If someone was to suggest you

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Speaker 3: need to be saving for forty six years, you kind

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Speaker 3: of throw the towel in, don't you. So the savings

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Speaker 3: doesn't don't really exist because you're thinking, what's the point anyway,

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm a lifelong renter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to prioritize other things because that seems unattainable, and

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Speaker 2: that's not an issue.

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Speaker 3: You can rent for your entire life. Go for it, it

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Speaker 3: doesn't really matter. But the whole Aussie dream. And they

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Speaker 3: say that only twenty five percent of people in a

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Speaker 3: couple of years time will be living in houses that

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Speaker 3: have the picket fence in the backyard.

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Speaker 2: Where's this going?

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Speaker 3: Because it questions sad it Sorry, let me put it

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Speaker 3: to you this way. There's a twenty eight year old

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Speaker 3: girl and she's come out and she said, because of

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Speaker 3: the crisis, I'm going to need to couple up in

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Speaker 3: the hope of finding some accommodation to live. She's been

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Speaker 3: renting for a very long time. Rent's about to go

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Speaker 3: up fifty dollars in the next month, so she said

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Speaker 3: the only way forward is to find somebody to be

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Speaker 3: in a relationship with or share a bed with. That's

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Speaker 3: how I have to do it now, because without that

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Speaker 3: then I don't get alive. It was a bit of

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Speaker 3: a burrito coming back up. Yeah, let's not worry too

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Speaker 3: much about the sound effect from the internal But I

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Speaker 3: just did.

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Speaker 5: Just allte hit her into the break.

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Speaker 2: Discuss Brent's going up and so's breakfast.

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Speaker 3: Better than going out? Happened Richie?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so she needs to share a bed, hopefully not

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Speaker 2: with you because you can't keep your insights again.

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Speaker 3: Could you imagine that moment though, of going okay, well

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Speaker 3: you seem nice enough, you appear like a clean individual. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'll share a bed with you. I don't know you,

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Speaker 3: but I suppose I'm going to have to.

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Speaker 5: No, you don't have to, mate, you don't have.

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Speaker 2: To, so you I do think people consider the fact

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Speaker 2: that they need to. Maybe, you know, I want to

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Speaker 2: find someone for love, but I also think I need to.

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Speaker 2: You know, life may be better if I can do

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Speaker 2: it with it in a team. Remember years ago there

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Speaker 2: was that that friend of groups of people putting all

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Speaker 2: of their money in. There's this wave of like, if

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Speaker 2: you know, we none of us can afford to buy

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Speaker 2: a house on our own, so but if three couples

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Speaker 2: do ye, then perhaps it may be an option.

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Speaker 4: And it was foolproof, like nothing would go wrong when

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Speaker 4: you went in when when you when you go in

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Speaker 4: with six other friends into a house. It is a

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Speaker 4: perfect world and nothing ever happens.

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