WEBVTT - F1's Valtteri Bottas & Tiffany Cromwell's Plans To Start A Family 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:06.720 For Valetuie is a bit more level. Although the first 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:09.400 you were together, when it was with Mercedes the first 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:11.399 time and you know, fighting for those wins and fighting 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:14.080 for the championship, there was definitely a few more ups 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:16.680 and downs and you know when there were the tough races, 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:19.119 it was like, okay, sometimes it doesn't go your ways. 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:22.000 Sometimes by luck happens and it's about then focusing on 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:22.639 the next race. 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:31.600 We would like to acknowledge the gategyl people of the Orination, 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:35.639 the traditional custodians of this land, and pay our respects 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:39.640 to the elders, both past and present. And this is 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:44.919 the heart of it now. Power couples in sport are 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:49.280 relatively common, but few would win a race against the 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:54.840 combined speed and skill of these two. Ozzie Olympic cyclist 0:00:55.000 --> 0:01:01.120 Tiffany Cromwell and Formula one driver Valetree Bota. I did 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:03.400 not actually get to be a part of this conversation. 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:06.160 You held this all on your own cab. Where did 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:06.520 you go? 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:08.479 I loved it. I loved it. 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:18.120 Tiffany's an exciting elite Australian bike rider right and Valtrie 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:22.120 is a Formula one legend legend so and but he 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:26.280 also loves riding bikes. Two and so it's an interesting chat. 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:29.720 You there, you were away doing your TV show and 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:35.120 I'm sitting in the studio in Australia or in Sydney. 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:41.560 Valdrie was in McLaren Vale in South Australia and Tiffany 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:42.679 was in Monaco. 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:44.560 Incredible. 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.640 Yeah, so there we were thanks to technology. And I 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:50.400 mean it looks it's interesting because they've got all the 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:55.960 hallmarks of being an Aussie couple. So they met in 0:01:56.000 --> 0:02:00.040 a pub. He has a mullet. Oh yeah, right, and 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.680 they have a gin together. They create a git and 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:03.840 it's called Oath. 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:09.160 Come on, come on, wow, that's awesome. 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:13.080 Yeah, they've got they've also this is this is on 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.280 top of everything else that they're doing in their in 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:19.000 their chosen fields. It's a great chat. Absolutely, they talk 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:20.040 about all sorts of things. 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:22.600 But yeah, it's it's really fun. 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:25.720 We won't we won't take up any more ever your time. 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:28.960 Let's jump straight into this chat with Val Thorie Botas 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:37.320 and Tiffany Cromwell. Welcome Val and Tiffany to the heart 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.720 of it. How are you guys. Where are you guys. 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:42.200 We're off at the side of the world right now. 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:45.800 I am in at the moment, south of. 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:51.440 France, Okay, and Vale, I'm in Australia in McLaren Bell, 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:52.800 South Australia. 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:56.359 Tiffany, you're from South Australia. Is he staying at your place? 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:01.720 Actually not, because my family is a bit further in 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:04.240 the Adelaide Hills and he likes his warn't too much 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:05.359 to what's doing McLaren Vale. 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:08.760 Oh, McLaren Vale's there. There are some There are some 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:10.840 beautiful places in the world, and that is one of them. 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:11.760 Yeah, definitely. 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.639 So how does the Formula one driver from Finland come 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:18.040 to meet an Ausie Olympian from South Ossi it spends 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:19.480 most of her time on a bicycle. 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:20.400 How did that happen? 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:27.960 At a pub, at a part local pub in Monaco places. 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:32.000 Yeah, so I was already living over here because we 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:34.320 have to live in Europe to race our bikes, and 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:38.120 I'll have to be living there too, and just happened 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:39.600 to be in that same pub at the same mode. 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:41.880 And yeah, the rest is history. 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:46.640 So who approached who? And what was it about each 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.839 other that you know? And how long ago was that too? 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.480 Well, once we met it was actually quite a while 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:55.960 that we met again, but we ended up on one 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:57.560 bike ride together. 0:03:57.680 --> 0:03:59.000 I was already kind of. 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:02.840 Riding bikes a little bit, just for my fitness. But yeah, 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:09.560 then eventually my life situation changed as I got divorced, 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:14.480 and then obviously I could I kind of knew what 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.760 I wanted, and that was Tiffany. So then when went 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:23.120 straight in and yeah, ended up actually coming to Australia 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:27.520 that following winter, after we had met and spent some 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:31.680 time with tiff in Adelaide and went from there. 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.400 Really who saw who first? And who made the first 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.640 who who did the walk over? And hey, hey, hey, 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:38.960 how did that go? 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:43.919 I think somebody just chanced us common friends? 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.800 Yeah, it was just a handshake, okay, And then, as 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:49.760 you said, it took a little while longer to sort 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:51.480 of work it out from there. 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:56.279 Yeah, I mean I was still married, so obviously eventually 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:58.920 I knew that was not not going to work. Once 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:03.080 I was not married anymore than had a pretty clear target. 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:04.479 Well there you go. 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:06.320 I knew that we could have lots of fun, fun, 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:10.239 fun fun together, and she, yeah, seemed like a lovely person. 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:14.560 So went streading and what's what's it's? Bike riding been 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:15.960 the connective for you. 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.000 It was definitely one of the common interests and one 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.440 of the things we could do together quite quickly, which 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:25.479 is nice. You know, we're fortunate with cycling that a 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:28.200 lot of sports do crossover with that musical fitness, so 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:31.719 you know we do go riding with all sorts of people, 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:33.479 and yeah, it was a way to get to know 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:35.640 each other. And then then we quickly saw we had 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:37.400 a lot of other mutual interests. You know, there was 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:43.600 like coffee for example, traveling, adventure, gin, all these sorts 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:46.960 of things, so I think, yeah, that was the first thing, 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:48.560 but then we quickly saw there was a lot of 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.320 other things that we shared a common interest with and 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:53.560 just yeah, enjoy doing together. 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:55.000 We travel the world. 0:05:55.400 --> 0:06:01.000 So you just mentioned coffee, which I love. Who's got 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:04.120 the best coffee in the worldly? 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:04.680 Obviously? 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:05.640 Wow? 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:07.880 You agree with that, Valfie. 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:11.680 Yeah, on average if you go to a coffee shop 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:16.719 or even like a hotel Australia, when absolutely on the 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:17.760 on the average level. 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:20.200 Of coffee, who's got the worst? 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:28.599 France? Really you think, so, oh yeah, that's absolutely okay. 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:32.280 We've been really broad here, like they you know, there 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.360 are people who have created coffee shops in Paris as 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:36.560 a coffee scene now, and there are a few places 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.600 here and there you can get a good coffee shop, 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:41.000 but the average, if you ask for a coffee in France, 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:43.520 it's not probably not gonna be very good. 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:45.080 Yeah. 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:47.640 Yeah, we're talking about the average, like there's obviously good, 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:49.760 good spots, but yeah, on average, I'm not for sure. 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:56.480 You're going to say that the middle of America, all. 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:59.440 The square states in America, Yeah, pretty nice? 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.680 Yeah yeah yeah yeah. 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.280 Okay, So you've both got demanding schedules with what you do, 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:10.800 and clearly you're in different countries right now, how do 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.320 you make time for each other and how do you 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:15.000 stay together when you're not together? 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.160 Well, we're lucky that these days technology has come a 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.560 long way, so you know, we have all the devices, FaceTime, 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:24.080 these sorts of things, which you know, if you think back, 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.560 even when I start my sycling career, we didn't have that, 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:28.720 which is like two thousand and five, my first time 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:31.880 in Europe. But otherwise, yeah, we luckily we both like 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:35.160 to travel and you know, within reason, we can kind 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:37.840 to each other's races and depending on the time of 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:41.360 the season because with my bike I can train anywhere 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:45.120 and with Valetiepeas and got commitments. He can kind of 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.640 come anywhere. So yeah, we've made it work quite well 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:50.000 by doing it that way, right. 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:53.880 And Valtui twenty is it twenty two races? Twenty two 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:55.160 countries for a year? 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:55.440 For you? 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:58.240 Twenty four races. 0:07:58.320 --> 0:07:59.960 Are twenty four races? Excuse me? 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:00.680 Right? 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:04.760 So that's that's a lot of travel. It's a lot 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:07.200 of a lot of hotels. 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:11.520 What's your best give me one of your best travel tips. 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:14.280 Yeah, it's a lot of travel. 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:17.240 And it's not only that, you know, there's also you know, 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:20.720 I do some work with the team, so there's separate trips, 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:26.080 there's separate sponsor events which sometimes could be in another continent, 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:32.320 you know. So it's pretty for long But travel tips, well, 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:36.240 I'm still myself discovering Australia. For me, there's still a 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:38.360 lot to see because it is a big country. But 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.840 like places i've been Japan, it's always up in the list. 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:46.760 And something more exotic that I keep going back to 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:51.560 is the northern Finland and northern Norway. It's pretty stunning 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:54.560 and it's it's so different from many other other places. 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:57.760 Yeah, there's northern lights are pretty spectacular right now, I've 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.520 got a photographer made of mind that he keeps sending 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.720 photographs back from hel Sinki each year he goes there 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:05.720 and photographs the northern lights. 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:07.280 I got to get there at some point. 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:07.520 Yeah. 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:07.760 Yeah. 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:10.440 And Finland is like the more north you go, the 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:12.599 better it gets, sort of just get out from the 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:14.520 people and the cities. 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:15.520 Yeah. 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:18.880 How much time to get to spend in Australia, you two, Well. 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:20.719 I'll actually have to spend more time than me. It 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:24.199 sings having the F one there, and it well because 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:26.120 with the F one there, it's at the worst time 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:28.280 for me, like a calendar. It's like the very busy 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:30.199 time of racing where we have a lot of the 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:33.160 big one day races here in Europe. But like this 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:35.840 year we did our six week stint which was really 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:39.320 good over December January, but that's normally the only time 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.800 we get back. This year we get a bonus trip 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:45.440 because there's some gravel races out there in April that 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:48.679 have made to work in. So yeah, but not more 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:50.640 than two months for you, I would say, yeah, but 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.000 usually less than that. Usually it's more like one to 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:54.120 one and a half months. 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:56.120 Yeah. You both. 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:03.160 Participants in elite sports and that requires a certain mindset 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:07.360 to stay at the top. How do you support each 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:09.680 other through that? Do you let each other go or 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:12.040 do you lean on each other at certain times? 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:16.640 I think we are good understanding each other. For sure. 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:18.800 There's more intense times and when there's not, and there's 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:21.959 times where we can kind of see like okay, they 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.040 just need their space, or other times where it's like 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:27.560 you can bounce ideas off each other or or just 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:31.000 have other conversations to distract yourself from the intense period. 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:34.960 So I think both understanding the pressures of high level 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:38.280 elite sport helps you understand why someone maybe might be 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:40.800 in a bad mood or you know, had a bad race, 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:42.840 and how to say the right words to kind of 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:48.160 get through that and kind of refocus and things like this, Yeah. 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.520 I agree, and like you kind of get it. You know, 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:54.200 once you've been through your ups and dancing in the sport, 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:59.400 you learn to it's not like mentally, how does defect 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:02.760 you and your partner most likely as well. So for me, 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:05.520 I find it actually quite easy to read Tiffany and 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.679 just trying to kind of reflect to myself, like how 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:11.560 would I will how would I feel in that position 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.880 if exemple had a bad race or stuff like that. 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:16.920 Sort it's pretty pretty straightforward. 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.640 Yeah, And so do you ever allow the thought to 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:25.440 come in because obviously there's a there's an expiry date 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:30.520 for elite sportsmen where you're no longer in that top 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.120 echelon of what you're doing, and you sort of have 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:37.400 to look at your role again, what. 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:38.720 Is my role in this now? 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:43.240 I'm actually still going for those top three spots or 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:44.360 whatever or top ten? 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:47.360 Do you allow yourself that space to sort of go, 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:48.120 what next? 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.720 What happened? What's the next stage? And do you plan 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.440 for that later on? Are you in that sort of 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:54.880 are you in that headspace? 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:55.559 Both of you. 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:58.520 Definitely planning, Like I think it's always good to plan, 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:01.360 and I think that's one mistake many athletes they do 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.480 in their life that get don't start planning early enough 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:08.800 because definitely, like you mentioned, nothing last forever, and especially 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:12.160 in sports, so as it can be quite restricted period 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.559 that you can actually make a living out of it. 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:18.079 And also what's then going to keep you busy? 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.080 You know? So personally I've. 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.720 Been planning for a long time, you know, thanks to 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:28.040 you know, good advisors and stuff like that. So already now, 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:30.360 Like if I wouldn't be in the modern sports, I 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:33.000 would be pretty busy on other stuff and I could 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:38.640 control the huges of my time on homocuspent in different things. 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:42.240 So I think that is really important for anyone because 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:45.960 if you drop on nothing of their sports career, then 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:51.960 that's typically when you see issues after that with the personalities. 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:56.200 Right, what would you say that, Tiffany, Yeah, I'd agree 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:59.160 with Boucher because of course I'm also like towards the 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:02.559 end of my career, sure, and I've changed a lot 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:05.360 throughout my career of being the one targeting the results 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:08.679 and now kind of helping mentor the younger writers and 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.800 being a road captain using experience to kind of support 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:13.400 my teammates to get the bigger results. 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:17.800 But for sure, there is that expiry data. Yes, you 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:20.719 hear so many stories of athletes going into depression or 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.480 being lost or being bankrupt, you know, within a few 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:26.959 years after finishing their careers, because you go from being 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:30.360 in the spotlight to almost being a nobody. So yeah, 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:34.040 like Baltrie, I've been trying to set myself up as well, 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:35.520 and I have a lot of hobbies and you know, 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:37.760 we've kind of created a few brands are in there, 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:41.400 so for sure you're always thinking about it. But I'm 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.000 sure when the time comes, there will be that moment. Okay, 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:47.200 so what are we doing? Which are we targeting? But yeah, 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.480 I think it's always important to build those skill sets 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.520 or use the networks who we're fortunate to be able 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:55.160 to be associated with or meet throughout our career to 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:57.480 open up these opportunities for when the time comes and 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:59.760 when it says, okay, the career is done of being 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:01.360 an complete Now what are we doing? 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.480 Yeah, because it's usually there's quite a lot of time 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:07.439 that happens after that because you think about I'm thinking 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:10.959 of AFL footy players and soccer players and stuff. 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:13.040 You really you know the top. 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:14.760 I mean, you might get one or two people that 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:18.520 play into their late thirties, but most of it it's 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:20.520 done around, you know, sort of the mid thirties, and 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:28.280 then you're onto the next, onto the next phase. Tiffany, 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:33.560 you mentioned hobbies. I'm loving the helmets that you create 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:37.800 for val Thie. The artwork that you do. Is that's 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:41.720 one of the hobbies that you might persevere with or 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:43.560 is that just a fun thing to do for you. 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:45.920 At the moment, I keep it just as fun. That's 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:48.320 why I call it a hobby. But you know, design 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:52.840 and creativity has always been something I'm passionate about. You know, 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:56.320 when I finished school, I studied passion design, and then 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:58.160 my second career took off, so I could never really 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:01.480 finish that, and I doubled in design cycling apparel and 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.600 then so yeah, it's always just something I've enjoyed and 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:07.240 self taught a lot of it. And when Valichie and 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:09.880 I started dating, then you know, he asked me to 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:13.560 design his helmet and at first I thought like immense pressure, 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:17.160 because that's their identity, you know, the driver's helmet is 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.880 only individual thing that they can have that represents themselves. 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.920 And you know, I've never done anything in that space before, 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.440 but I was like, okay, let's go. And it started 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:27.560 with just a one off helmet for the odds GP 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:30.360 that never happens. And if I look back at that design, 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:34.320 I'm like, okay, Like it was fun, but yeah, it 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:36.680 needed a bit of work. I think now now I 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.920 see what I've done since. But you know, I do 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:42.080 really enjoy it, and can I go into that and say, okay, 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:44.520 put it is just as a business like, yeah, sure 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.720 it could be. We'll see. You know, I'm always open 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.640 to projects, you know. But the thing is with all 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:52.560 those things, it's like you need to work with the 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:55.120 client or I only work with Baltie and he's lucky. 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.560 Gives me a lot of freedom. And yeah, we play 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:00.640 with the ideas and you know, you have your your 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:03.280 standard season helmet, but then with all the individual races, 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:05.440 it's really fun to kind of be like, Okay, what 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.720 story can we tell through the helmet? And so I 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:13.120 really enjoy that side of things, And yeah, it's definitely 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:15.160 something on the radar or something in the design space 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:16.960 I could consider doing. 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:21.040 I imagined with Australians they would love it for the 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:24.040 golf club fundraisers getting one of those helmets and putting 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:25.400 it up and raising money for charity. 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:28.000 Get a lot of people getting on those. 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:31.760 Yeah, definitely. And we have done a few helmets for 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.680 foundations or for fundraising. So when we can, we like 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.080 to try to make a difference and associate with causes 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:42.160 you know, we're passionate about. So yeah, like we always 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:45.320 keep at least one helmet of every design. That's the 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:47.680 only thing I asked fell Through for like a bit 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:51.240 of a collection. But you know, sometimes we'll have two 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:56.000 of a standard of a special edition design for example, 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:59.000 and yeah, like we just did one last year for Brazil. 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:04.000 The coffee company he is involved with Kahuar and Finland 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:07.359 where you know, they're selling coffee and then people can 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:09.520 win the helmet and then the thunds raised are going 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:13.879 to the local coffee projects in Brazil to kind of help, 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.080 you know, because for the farmers are at the bottom 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:17.840 of the change. So things like data is what we're 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:20.199 trying to do. And yeah, so it's nice if you 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:22.520 can make a difference through the power get designs as well. 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.840 Absolutely, I think it's really a kind thing to do. 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.560 It's so fun too, always fun to be creative and 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:34.439 things too. Hey, what is you know, as we're talking 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:37.119 about it's high stakes for you guys in your in 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:41.440 what you do, high pressure. I'm sure there are setbacks. 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:46.040 We all go through setbacks, whether that's in relationships or 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:49.760 in our work. What we want and we get pushed back. 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:53.120 Can you share some advice that you've given each other 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:58.240 when you've experienced setbacks to set things you know on 0:17:58.320 --> 0:17:59.119 a different track. 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:04.760 Well, normally one advice to quite a few times I've 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:08.720 told Tiffany if she is like in her mind like 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:13.720 thinking about yeah, something negatively or stuck in like bad 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:18.360 mood or just I know it by something or that's normally, 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:22.200 I try to tell her to look at the big 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:24.760 picture in life, you know, if it's like one bad 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:28.199 result here, you know, but look at everything. You know 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:30.480 that that we have, look at everything you've done in 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:33.520 your career, look at everything that there is a head 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:39.200 and that next next opportunity. That's probably my advice I've given. 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:42.680 If that's right, the big picture in life. 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:46.240 Definitely, yeah, for sure, and that the sound's going to 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.240 come up the next day. Like I know one that 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:53.000 probably is a bit more fluctuating mood. For Valtuie, he's 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:56.399 a bit more you know level. Although the affair she 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:59.200 were together, when it was with Mercedes the first time 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:02.000 and you know, fighting for those wins and fighting further championship, 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:04.280 there was definitely a few more ups and downs, and 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:07.359 you know, when there were the tough races, it was 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:11.840 like okay, you know, like it happens, Sometimes it doesn't 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:14.040 go your ways, Sometimes bad luck happens, and it's about 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:17.800 then focusing on the next race and saying okay, looking 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:20.920 at it, reviewing it, and then putting it behind you 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:23.160 and resetting and then to studying again. So I think 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:26.200 the keys always like, for sure, you'll have those moments 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:28.960 where you're disappointed or you're down, but not to let 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:31.919 it linger because that's when the spiral and you know, 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.639 mentally it can kind of crack you and you just 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:36.679 go further and further into a hole. So it's like 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:39.359 trying to reset, talking to the people who you know, 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:42.800 to come out of that, to look at the positives 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:45.160 and to like reflect on it, to say what can 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:49.040 we do better, and always trying to then reset the 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:50.479 goals and what the next target is. 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:54.280 Yeah, fantastic because I can imagine with both of you, 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:59.000 you both reliant on precision machines, plus you're dealing with 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:01.959 humans dry having those machines that you're not quite sure. 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:04.639 You know, it's such a dynamic, but you're both in 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:09.679 dynamic sports. Things change all the time. So and often 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:13.840 the margins are so small, aren't they that you're dealing. 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:17.240 With sure, especially in valchory sport, you know, and they 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:20.040 have a lot more things that can go wrong that's 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:20.720 out of their power. 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:24.840 Yeah, Like that's the thing sometimes there's yeah, certain things 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:27.200 that you can't control, you know, if things go solve 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:30.960 that you can't affect them. It is really important to 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:34.280 really move on quickly and not to think about it really. 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:38.400 But it's more like if you make a mistake yourself 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:40.600 or could have done better, then of course the first 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:43.440 thing is to understand why it happened, you know, and 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:45.000 what can I do better next time? 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:49.280 Just back to you, guys, being separated just through your 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:51.879 work and things like that, do you or how important 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:57.960 are rituals and routines in your relationship to stay connected? 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:00.360 Can you share anything about what you do? 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:05.280