Speaker 1: For Valetuie is a bit more level. Although the first
Speaker 1: you were together, when it was with Mercedes the first
Speaker 1: time and you know, fighting for those wins and fighting
Speaker 1: for the championship, there was definitely a few more ups
Speaker 1: and downs and you know when there were the tough races,
Speaker 1: it was like, okay, sometimes it doesn't go your ways.
Speaker 1: Sometimes by luck happens and it's about then focusing on
Speaker 1: the next race.
Speaker 2: We would like to acknowledge the gategyl people of the Orination,
Speaker 2: the traditional custodians of this land, and pay our respects
Speaker 2: to the elders, both past and present. And this is
Speaker 2: the heart of it now. Power couples in sport are
Speaker 2: relatively common, but few would win a race against the
Speaker 2: combined speed and skill of these two. Ozzie Olympic cyclist
Speaker 2: Tiffany Cromwell and Formula one driver Valetree Bota. I did
Speaker 2: not actually get to be a part of this conversation.
Speaker 2: You held this all on your own cab. Where did
Speaker 2: you go?
Speaker 3: I loved it. I loved it.
Speaker 4: Tiffany's an exciting elite Australian bike rider right and Valtrie
Speaker 4: is a Formula one legend legend so and but he
Speaker 4: also loves riding bikes. Two and so it's an interesting chat.
Speaker 4: You there, you were away doing your TV show and
Speaker 4: I'm sitting in the studio in Australia or in Sydney.
Speaker 4: Valdrie was in McLaren Vale in South Australia and Tiffany
Speaker 4: was in Monaco.
Speaker 2: Incredible.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so there we were thanks to technology. And I
Speaker 4: mean it looks it's interesting because they've got all the
Speaker 4: hallmarks of being an Aussie couple. So they met in
Speaker 4: a pub. He has a mullet. Oh yeah, right, and
Speaker 4: they have a gin together. They create a git and
Speaker 4: it's called Oath.
Speaker 2: Come on, come on, wow, that's awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they've got they've also this is this is on
Speaker 4: top of everything else that they're doing in their in
Speaker 4: their chosen fields. It's a great chat. Absolutely, they talk
Speaker 4: about all sorts of things.
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's it's really fun.
Speaker 4: We won't we won't take up any more ever your time.
Speaker 4: Let's jump straight into this chat with Val Thorie Botas
Speaker 4: and Tiffany Cromwell. Welcome Val and Tiffany to the heart
Speaker 4: of it. How are you guys. Where are you guys.
Speaker 1: We're off at the side of the world right now.
Speaker 1: I am in at the moment, south of.
Speaker 6: France, Okay, and Vale, I'm in Australia in McLaren Bell,
Speaker 6: South Australia.
Speaker 5: Tiffany, you're from South Australia. Is he staying at your place?
Speaker 1: Actually not, because my family is a bit further in
Speaker 1: the Adelaide Hills and he likes his warn't too much
Speaker 1: to what's doing McLaren Vale.
Speaker 4: Oh, McLaren Vale's there. There are some There are some
Speaker 4: beautiful places in the world, and that is one of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4: So how does the Formula one driver from Finland come
Speaker 4: to meet an Ausie Olympian from South Ossi it spends
Speaker 4: most of her time on a bicycle.
Speaker 5: How did that happen?
Speaker 3: At a pub, at a part local pub in Monaco places.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was already living over here because we
Speaker 1: have to live in Europe to race our bikes, and
Speaker 1: I'll have to be living there too, and just happened
Speaker 1: to be in that same pub at the same mode.
Speaker 1: And yeah, the rest is history.
Speaker 4: So who approached who? And what was it about each
Speaker 4: other that you know? And how long ago was that too?
Speaker 6: Well, once we met it was actually quite a while
Speaker 6: that we met again, but we ended up on one
Speaker 6: bike ride together.
Speaker 3: I was already kind of.
Speaker 6: Riding bikes a little bit, just for my fitness. But yeah,
Speaker 6: then eventually my life situation changed as I got divorced,
Speaker 6: and then obviously I could I kind of knew what
Speaker 6: I wanted, and that was Tiffany. So then when went
Speaker 6: straight in and yeah, ended up actually coming to Australia
Speaker 6: that following winter, after we had met and spent some
Speaker 6: time with tiff in Adelaide and went from there.
Speaker 4: Really who saw who first? And who made the first
Speaker 4: who who did the walk over? And hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 4: how did that go?
Speaker 3: I think somebody just chanced us common friends?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just a handshake, okay, And then, as
Speaker 4: you said, it took a little while longer to sort
Speaker 4: of work it out from there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I was still married, so obviously eventually
Speaker 6: I knew that was not not going to work. Once
Speaker 6: I was not married anymore than had a pretty clear target.
Speaker 3: Well there you go.
Speaker 6: I knew that we could have lots of fun, fun,
Speaker 6: fun fun together, and she, yeah, seemed like a lovely person.
Speaker 5: So went streading and what's what's it's? Bike riding been
Speaker 5: the connective for you.
Speaker 1: It was definitely one of the common interests and one
Speaker 1: of the things we could do together quite quickly, which
Speaker 1: is nice. You know, we're fortunate with cycling that a
Speaker 1: lot of sports do crossover with that musical fitness, so
Speaker 1: you know we do go riding with all sorts of people,
Speaker 1: and yeah, it was a way to get to know
Speaker 1: each other. And then then we quickly saw we had
Speaker 1: a lot of other mutual interests. You know, there was
Speaker 1: like coffee for example, traveling, adventure, gin, all these sorts
Speaker 1: of things, so I think, yeah, that was the first thing,
Speaker 1: but then we quickly saw there was a lot of
Speaker 1: other things that we shared a common interest with and
Speaker 1: just yeah, enjoy doing together.
Speaker 5: We travel the world.
Speaker 4: So you just mentioned coffee, which I love. Who's got
Speaker 4: the best coffee in the worldly?
Speaker 1: Obviously?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 5: You agree with that, Valfie.
Speaker 6: Yeah, on average if you go to a coffee shop
Speaker 6: or even like a hotel Australia, when absolutely on the
Speaker 6: on the average level.
Speaker 3: Of coffee, who's got the worst?
Speaker 1: France? Really you think, so, oh yeah, that's absolutely okay.
Speaker 1: We've been really broad here, like they you know, there
Speaker 1: are people who have created coffee shops in Paris as
Speaker 1: a coffee scene now, and there are a few places
Speaker 1: here and there you can get a good coffee shop,
Speaker 1: but the average, if you ask for a coffee in France,
Speaker 1: it's not probably not gonna be very good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're talking about the average, like there's obviously good,
Speaker 6: good spots, but yeah, on average, I'm not for sure.
Speaker 4: You're going to say that the middle of America, all.
Speaker 5: The square states in America, Yeah, pretty nice?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: Okay, So you've both got demanding schedules with what you do,
Speaker 4: and clearly you're in different countries right now, how do
Speaker 4: you make time for each other and how do you
Speaker 4: stay together when you're not together?
Speaker 1: Well, we're lucky that these days technology has come a
Speaker 1: long way, so you know, we have all the devices, FaceTime,
Speaker 1: these sorts of things, which you know, if you think back,
Speaker 1: even when I start my sycling career, we didn't have that,
Speaker 1: which is like two thousand and five, my first time
Speaker 1: in Europe. But otherwise, yeah, we luckily we both like
Speaker 1: to travel and you know, within reason, we can kind
Speaker 1: to each other's races and depending on the time of
Speaker 1: the season because with my bike I can train anywhere
Speaker 1: and with Valetiepeas and got commitments. He can kind of
Speaker 1: come anywhere. So yeah, we've made it work quite well
Speaker 1: by doing it that way, right.
Speaker 4: And Valtui twenty is it twenty two races? Twenty two
Speaker 4: countries for a year?
Speaker 5: For you?
Speaker 3: Twenty four races.
Speaker 5: Are twenty four races? Excuse me?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 5: So that's that's a lot of travel. It's a lot
Speaker 5: of a lot of hotels.
Speaker 4: What's your best give me one of your best travel tips.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot of travel.
Speaker 6: And it's not only that, you know, there's also you know,
Speaker 6: I do some work with the team, so there's separate trips,
Speaker 6: there's separate sponsor events which sometimes could be in another continent,
Speaker 6: you know. So it's pretty for long But travel tips, well,
Speaker 6: I'm still myself discovering Australia. For me, there's still a
Speaker 6: lot to see because it is a big country. But
Speaker 6: like places i've been Japan, it's always up in the list.
Speaker 6: And something more exotic that I keep going back to
Speaker 6: is the northern Finland and northern Norway. It's pretty stunning
Speaker 6: and it's it's so different from many other other places.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's northern lights are pretty spectacular right now, I've
Speaker 4: got a photographer made of mind that he keeps sending
Speaker 4: photographs back from hel Sinki each year he goes there
Speaker 4: and photographs the northern lights.
Speaker 5: I got to get there at some point.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And Finland is like the more north you go, the
Speaker 6: better it gets, sort of just get out from the
Speaker 6: people and the cities.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: How much time to get to spend in Australia, you two, Well.
Speaker 1: I'll actually have to spend more time than me. It
Speaker 1: sings having the F one there, and it well because
Speaker 1: with the F one there, it's at the worst time
Speaker 1: for me, like a calendar. It's like the very busy
Speaker 1: time of racing where we have a lot of the
Speaker 1: big one day races here in Europe. But like this
Speaker 1: year we did our six week stint which was really
Speaker 1: good over December January, but that's normally the only time
Speaker 1: we get back. This year we get a bonus trip
Speaker 1: because there's some gravel races out there in April that
Speaker 1: have made to work in. So yeah, but not more
Speaker 1: than two months for you, I would say, yeah, but
Speaker 1: usually less than that. Usually it's more like one to
Speaker 1: one and a half months.
Speaker 5: Yeah. You both.
Speaker 4: Participants in elite sports and that requires a certain mindset
Speaker 4: to stay at the top. How do you support each
Speaker 4: other through that? Do you let each other go or
Speaker 4: do you lean on each other at certain times?
Speaker 1: I think we are good understanding each other. For sure.
Speaker 1: There's more intense times and when there's not, and there's
Speaker 1: times where we can kind of see like okay, they
Speaker 1: just need their space, or other times where it's like
Speaker 1: you can bounce ideas off each other or or just
Speaker 1: have other conversations to distract yourself from the intense period.
Speaker 1: So I think both understanding the pressures of high level
Speaker 1: elite sport helps you understand why someone maybe might be
Speaker 1: in a bad mood or you know, had a bad race,
Speaker 1: and how to say the right words to kind of
Speaker 1: get through that and kind of refocus and things like this, Yeah.
Speaker 6: I agree, and like you kind of get it. You know,
Speaker 6: once you've been through your ups and dancing in the sport,
Speaker 6: you learn to it's not like mentally, how does defect
Speaker 6: you and your partner most likely as well. So for me,
Speaker 6: I find it actually quite easy to read Tiffany and
Speaker 6: just trying to kind of reflect to myself, like how
Speaker 6: would I will how would I feel in that position
Speaker 6: if exemple had a bad race or stuff like that.
Speaker 6: Sort it's pretty pretty straightforward.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so do you ever allow the thought to
Speaker 4: come in because obviously there's a there's an expiry date
Speaker 4: for elite sportsmen where you're no longer in that top
Speaker 4: echelon of what you're doing, and you sort of have
Speaker 4: to look at your role again, what.
Speaker 5: Is my role in this now?
Speaker 4: I'm actually still going for those top three spots or
Speaker 4: whatever or top ten?
Speaker 5: Do you allow yourself that space to sort of go,
Speaker 5: what next?
Speaker 4: What happened? What's the next stage? And do you plan
Speaker 4: for that later on? Are you in that sort of
Speaker 4: are you in that headspace?
Speaker 5: Both of you.
Speaker 6: Definitely planning, Like I think it's always good to plan,
Speaker 6: and I think that's one mistake many athletes they do
Speaker 6: in their life that get don't start planning early enough
Speaker 6: because definitely, like you mentioned, nothing last forever, and especially
Speaker 6: in sports, so as it can be quite restricted period
Speaker 6: that you can actually make a living out of it.
Speaker 6: And also what's then going to keep you busy?
Speaker 3: You know? So personally I've.
Speaker 6: Been planning for a long time, you know, thanks to
Speaker 6: you know, good advisors and stuff like that. So already now,
Speaker 6: Like if I wouldn't be in the modern sports, I
Speaker 6: would be pretty busy on other stuff and I could
Speaker 6: control the huges of my time on homocuspent in different things.
Speaker 6: So I think that is really important for anyone because
Speaker 6: if you drop on nothing of their sports career, then
Speaker 6: that's typically when you see issues after that with the personalities.
Speaker 7: Right, what would you say that, Tiffany, Yeah, I'd agree
Speaker 7: with Boucher because of course I'm also like towards the
Speaker 7: end of my career, sure, and I've changed a lot
Speaker 7: throughout my career of being the one targeting the results
Speaker 7: and now kind of helping mentor the younger writers and
Speaker 7: being a road captain using experience to kind of support
Speaker 7: my teammates to get the bigger results.
Speaker 1: But for sure, there is that expiry data. Yes, you
Speaker 1: hear so many stories of athletes going into depression or
Speaker 1: being lost or being bankrupt, you know, within a few
Speaker 1: years after finishing their careers, because you go from being
Speaker 1: in the spotlight to almost being a nobody. So yeah,
Speaker 1: like Baltrie, I've been trying to set myself up as well,
Speaker 1: and I have a lot of hobbies and you know,
Speaker 1: we've kind of created a few brands are in there,
Speaker 1: so for sure you're always thinking about it. But I'm
Speaker 1: sure when the time comes, there will be that moment. Okay,
Speaker 1: so what are we doing? Which are we targeting? But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's always important to build those skill sets
Speaker 1: or use the networks who we're fortunate to be able
Speaker 1: to be associated with or meet throughout our career to
Speaker 1: open up these opportunities for when the time comes and
Speaker 1: when it says, okay, the career is done of being
Speaker 1: an complete Now what are we doing?
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's usually there's quite a lot of time
Speaker 4: that happens after that because you think about I'm thinking
Speaker 4: of AFL footy players and soccer players and stuff.
Speaker 5: You really you know the top.
Speaker 4: I mean, you might get one or two people that
Speaker 4: play into their late thirties, but most of it it's
Speaker 4: done around, you know, sort of the mid thirties, and
Speaker 4: then you're onto the next, onto the next phase. Tiffany,
Speaker 4: you mentioned hobbies. I'm loving the helmets that you create
Speaker 4: for val Thie. The artwork that you do. Is that's
Speaker 4: one of the hobbies that you might persevere with or
Speaker 4: is that just a fun thing to do for you.
Speaker 1: At the moment, I keep it just as fun. That's
Speaker 1: why I call it a hobby. But you know, design
Speaker 1: and creativity has always been something I'm passionate about. You know,
Speaker 1: when I finished school, I studied passion design, and then
Speaker 1: my second career took off, so I could never really
Speaker 1: finish that, and I doubled in design cycling apparel and
Speaker 1: then so yeah, it's always just something I've enjoyed and
Speaker 1: self taught a lot of it. And when Valichie and
Speaker 1: I started dating, then you know, he asked me to
Speaker 1: design his helmet and at first I thought like immense pressure,
Speaker 1: because that's their identity, you know, the driver's helmet is
Speaker 1: only individual thing that they can have that represents themselves.
Speaker 1: And you know, I've never done anything in that space before,
Speaker 1: but I was like, okay, let's go. And it started
Speaker 1: with just a one off helmet for the odds GP
Speaker 1: that never happens. And if I look back at that design,
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, Like it was fun, but yeah, it
Speaker 1: needed a bit of work. I think now now I
Speaker 1: see what I've done since. But you know, I do
Speaker 1: really enjoy it, and can I go into that and say, okay,
Speaker 1: put it is just as a business like, yeah, sure
Speaker 1: it could be. We'll see. You know, I'm always open
Speaker 1: to projects, you know. But the thing is with all
Speaker 1: those things, it's like you need to work with the
Speaker 1: client or I only work with Baltie and he's lucky.
Speaker 1: Gives me a lot of freedom. And yeah, we play
Speaker 1: with the ideas and you know, you have your your
Speaker 1: standard season helmet, but then with all the individual races,
Speaker 1: it's really fun to kind of be like, Okay, what
Speaker 1: story can we tell through the helmet? And so I
Speaker 1: really enjoy that side of things, And yeah, it's definitely
Speaker 1: something on the radar or something in the design space
Speaker 1: I could consider doing.
Speaker 4: I imagined with Australians they would love it for the
Speaker 4: golf club fundraisers getting one of those helmets and putting
Speaker 4: it up and raising money for charity.
Speaker 5: Get a lot of people getting on those.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. And we have done a few helmets for
Speaker 1: foundations or for fundraising. So when we can, we like
Speaker 1: to try to make a difference and associate with causes
Speaker 1: you know, we're passionate about. So yeah, like we always
Speaker 1: keep at least one helmet of every design. That's the
Speaker 1: only thing I asked fell Through for like a bit
Speaker 1: of a collection. But you know, sometimes we'll have two
Speaker 1: of a standard of a special edition design for example,
Speaker 1: and yeah, like we just did one last year for Brazil.
Speaker 1: The coffee company he is involved with Kahuar and Finland
Speaker 1: where you know, they're selling coffee and then people can
Speaker 1: win the helmet and then the thunds raised are going
Speaker 1: to the local coffee projects in Brazil to kind of help,
Speaker 1: you know, because for the farmers are at the bottom
Speaker 1: of the change. So things like data is what we're
Speaker 1: trying to do. And yeah, so it's nice if you
Speaker 1: can make a difference through the power get designs as well.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I think it's really a kind thing to do.
Speaker 4: It's so fun too, always fun to be creative and
Speaker 4: things too. Hey, what is you know, as we're talking
Speaker 4: about it's high stakes for you guys in your in
Speaker 4: what you do, high pressure. I'm sure there are setbacks.
Speaker 4: We all go through setbacks, whether that's in relationships or
Speaker 4: in our work. What we want and we get pushed back.
Speaker 4: Can you share some advice that you've given each other
Speaker 4: when you've experienced setbacks to set things you know on
Speaker 4: a different track.
Speaker 6: Well, normally one advice to quite a few times I've
Speaker 6: told Tiffany if she is like in her mind like
Speaker 6: thinking about yeah, something negatively or stuck in like bad
Speaker 6: mood or just I know it by something or that's normally,
Speaker 6: I try to tell her to look at the big
Speaker 6: picture in life, you know, if it's like one bad
Speaker 6: result here, you know, but look at everything. You know
Speaker 6: that that we have, look at everything you've done in
Speaker 6: your career, look at everything that there is a head
Speaker 6: and that next next opportunity. That's probably my advice I've given.
Speaker 6: If that's right, the big picture in life.
Speaker 1: Definitely, yeah, for sure, and that the sound's going to
Speaker 1: come up the next day. Like I know one that
Speaker 1: probably is a bit more fluctuating mood. For Valtuie, he's
Speaker 1: a bit more you know level. Although the affair she
Speaker 1: were together, when it was with Mercedes the first time
Speaker 1: and you know, fighting for those wins and fighting further championship,
Speaker 1: there was definitely a few more ups and downs, and
Speaker 1: you know, when there were the tough races, it was
Speaker 1: like okay, you know, like it happens, Sometimes it doesn't
Speaker 1: go your ways, Sometimes bad luck happens, and it's about
Speaker 1: then focusing on the next race and saying okay, looking
Speaker 1: at it, reviewing it, and then putting it behind you
Speaker 1: and resetting and then to studying again. So I think
Speaker 1: the keys always like, for sure, you'll have those moments
Speaker 1: where you're disappointed or you're down, but not to let
Speaker 1: it linger because that's when the spiral and you know,
Speaker 1: mentally it can kind of crack you and you just
Speaker 1: go further and further into a hole. So it's like
Speaker 1: trying to reset, talking to the people who you know,
Speaker 1: to come out of that, to look at the positives
Speaker 1: and to like reflect on it, to say what can
Speaker 1: we do better, and always trying to then reset the
Speaker 1: goals and what the next target is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, fantastic because I can imagine with both of you,
Speaker 4: you both reliant on precision machines, plus you're dealing with
Speaker 4: humans dry having those machines that you're not quite sure.
Speaker 4: You know, it's such a dynamic, but you're both in
Speaker 4: dynamic sports. Things change all the time. So and often
Speaker 4: the margins are so small, aren't they that you're dealing.
Speaker 1: With sure, especially in valchory sport, you know, and they
Speaker 1: have a lot more things that can go wrong that's
Speaker 1: out of their power.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like that's the thing sometimes there's yeah, certain things
Speaker 6: that you can't control, you know, if things go solve
Speaker 6: that you can't affect them. It is really important to
Speaker 6: really move on quickly and not to think about it really.
Speaker 6: But it's more like if you make a mistake yourself
Speaker 6: or could have done better, then of course the first
Speaker 6: thing is to understand why it happened, you know, and
Speaker 6: what can I do better next time?
Speaker 4: Just back to you, guys, being separated just through your
Speaker 4: work and things like that, do you or how important
Speaker 4: are rituals and routines in your relationship to stay connected?
Speaker 4: Can you share anything about what you do?
Speaker 6: Yeah, like every morning, every night. We normally we speak
Speaker 6: every day on the phone. But like at home, I
Speaker 6: don't know. I think we're both pretty happy to freestyle
Speaker 6: and you know, we know that each other. We are busy,
Speaker 6: but we always stay connected. That's one thing for sure.
Speaker 6: But apart from that.
Speaker 1: Not much exactly because I think, you know, sometimes it
Speaker 1: can be where we are both at a race, so
Speaker 1: then we're both so busy, justs focused on that right now.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm not a race at the moment, and
Speaker 1: well it's got a hundred things going on. But yeah,
Speaker 1: like we say that the main thing that's always a
Speaker 1: common is when we wake up, we'll send each other
Speaker 1: a message or and yeah, just before going to bed.
Speaker 1: Like I'd say, that's the one thing that's always a yeah,
Speaker 1: a thing we do.
Speaker 3: What's it?
Speaker 4: What's it like when you're watching each other race and
Speaker 4: you're in you know, you're watching the television coverage and
Speaker 4: you hear the commentators say something.
Speaker 5: Crappy about each other?
Speaker 4: What's the when they might make a comment You're going,
Speaker 4: oh my, I'm going to kill that person.
Speaker 3: I haven't heard that action? What you haven't had compliments
Speaker 3: for TIF on TV?
Speaker 5: Well that's good? Yeah, Tiff, have you ever heard anything?
Speaker 1: Most of the time it's positive. Sometimes you get them
Speaker 1: and then you know, you just kind of like you
Speaker 1: brush it off. You know it's for TV or you knows.
Speaker 1: You know, there's certain commentator as a journalist, like to
Speaker 1: have an opinion just to be controversial because that's what
Speaker 1: gets the clicks. So you learn in that sport that
Speaker 1: everybody has an agenda, so you don't really take anything personally.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 4: You go, tell me, have you ever do you give
Speaker 4: each other tips? Like when you're watching that thing, you go, oh,
Speaker 4: Tiff you should have gone around the.
Speaker 5: Other side of that or do you ever is that?
Speaker 5: Is that against the rules with you too?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Not really nice.
Speaker 6: You know it's if obviously been racing since young age,
Speaker 6: and she's the professional in that sport and I'm not,
Speaker 6: you know, and I'm a vice versa.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't get driving.
Speaker 1: Tips from tip exactly. Like, if anything, I will ask
Speaker 1: them questions like why did they do this strategy or that,
Speaker 1: just for me to understand, because you know, if you're
Speaker 1: not there in person hearing what's happening in the radio,
Speaker 1: you don't really know why they're doing certain things in
Speaker 1: the race. But but that's because you're watching from a
Speaker 1: far and you kind of understand how the sport works.
Speaker 1: But I'm not going to be like, why did you
Speaker 1: not overtake that guy? Or yeah, because again, like well
Speaker 1: just said like it's it's not my sport. I'm not
Speaker 1: the expert and I'm just there to support.
Speaker 4: Okay, So to that then vow Loves he's cycling. Do
Speaker 4: you do you ever give you know, aerodynamic cycling tips,
Speaker 4: you know, pull your knees in that sort of stuff
Speaker 4: for your elbows, not aero stuff.
Speaker 1: But I definitely give him some tips like around training
Speaker 1: or now he's getting to be racing through gravel racing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can give him some some things to think about,
Speaker 1: or you know, even fueling and strategy like that, because
Speaker 1: you know, I have so many years of being told
Speaker 1: these things. Yeah, so from that, I can definitely give
Speaker 1: some insights and then but also it's up to him
Speaker 1: and how he wants to take them and use them
Speaker 1: in his own performance.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Amazing. Hey, so you're in business together. What's what's what's
Speaker 4: that dynamic like between you? Does that has that changed anything?
Speaker 4: Or how do you work together?
Speaker 3: I don't think it really hasn't changed anything.
Speaker 6: If it's if anything is something else that we can
Speaker 6: do together outside sports, which is kind of kind of
Speaker 6: fun and in the end, like everything we get involved
Speaker 6: together is true passion normally, which means it's always going
Speaker 6: to be fun no matter what. So yeah, no, no,
Speaker 6: if anything that's connected, I'll seeing it anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, we can always bounce ideas off
Speaker 1: each other. And we're lucky with the various businesses we're
Speaker 1: involved with together, Like we have other people we're working with,
Speaker 1: so it's kind of like team efforts and it's more
Speaker 1: we can discuss things between each other, like what we
Speaker 1: want to change, what we need to discuss about with
Speaker 1: our business partners, and yeah, just ultimately we both have
Speaker 1: the same goal and the same vision of trying to
Speaker 1: make them successful. So I think we're on the same
Speaker 1: page and we you know, we both know what we're
Speaker 1: doing within those companies.
Speaker 4: And just a quick brief, what are you doing together?
Speaker 4: What are some of these businesses that you're working on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have our oath Gin which that's a big
Speaker 1: passion project. It's so one we're very heavily involved with,
Speaker 1: i'd say, and you know we build it from scratch
Speaker 1: with a very small team and just brought into Australia.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's been a fine and challenging project. We
Speaker 1: also have some gravel races in both our hometowns, so
Speaker 1: Finland Gravel and red Or Gravel. There is a mass
Speaker 1: participation event where we also have elites and amateurs racing together.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's kind of been, isn't your disciplining a
Speaker 1: lot of cycling? I think that's all directly right. But
Speaker 1: then there's a few things that for example, Baltrie is doing,
Speaker 1: like his wine project with al US trainer in McLaren
Speaker 1: bell I, Hannah.
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm very impressed. I can't wait to taste that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So, actually today we just finished the blend for the
Speaker 6: edition three of the wine. When that I do with them?
Speaker 6: So but that edition tree is going to be launched
Speaker 6: next year. But we've done number one, which he has
Speaker 6: sold out. But we launched number two in January and
Speaker 6: there's still some left.
Speaker 3: So what's that called, Ihanna.
Speaker 1: Which is finished for wonderful or lovely? Yes, so, I
Speaker 1: a few finish words. That's actually eat somewhat easy to pronounce.
Speaker 3: It's funny that you actually mentioned.
Speaker 6: I'm now at the at the place of the wine
Speaker 6: maker Corina of Oliver Stern.
Speaker 5: So yeah, oh, will you tell her from me? She's
Speaker 5: a winner.
Speaker 4: I've got a few bottles laid down that and I
Speaker 4: give it to my mea. We lived in the States
Speaker 4: for twenty five years and anytime I went to someone
Speaker 4: famous as house, I always took them a bottle of
Speaker 4: Olivers that said you're gonna you are gonna love this.
Speaker 3: I like your one test. Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: Hey, I will say, speaking of words and finish words,
Speaker 4: I Hannah, how did you go with the Aussie vernacular
Speaker 4: the vultui with you know that we put a y
Speaker 4: on everything, brecky, prezzy, chucky.
Speaker 3: I'm still learning.
Speaker 6: I'm doing pretty good nowadays, but uh still, every now
Speaker 6: and then I get a new new word of the zilingo.
Speaker 3: But yeah, get get in there.
Speaker 6: And I'm finally starting to understand tiffany as well.
Speaker 3: It's pretty pretty nice. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Is that that's a that's an ongoing thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think of that ongoing process now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, can you think of one that just absolutely had
Speaker 4: your stumped?
Speaker 5: Do you just like, I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 6: There's been many, many occasions. I don't know chief for
Speaker 6: any any good ones, but simple ones like tongues. You know,
Speaker 6: it's very to me. That's not a cliplop, it's something else.
Speaker 6: You know, it's normally like woman's underwork.
Speaker 3: But yeah, stuff like that.
Speaker 8: Only when you liked when you heard it the first
Speaker 8: time in real life was fair income because we're waiting
Speaker 8: to do the ferrying to go to kangar Island and
Speaker 8: this guy was like trying to argue something and then
Speaker 8: he finished very digham. Oh they actually use that expression.
Speaker 5: I love it. Is there a finish equivalent to any
Speaker 5: of that sort of stuff.
Speaker 6: Well, one thing, especially in South Australia, like yeah, na,
Speaker 6: it's pretty common. And actually in finish there is your
Speaker 6: your A your a, which is like exactly the same
Speaker 6: meaning and we actually use it quite a bit.
Speaker 3: So that was funny to do.
Speaker 5: Have to put that one in.
Speaker 4: Hey, who takes who takes longer to get ready before
Speaker 4: you go out? And and between the two of you
Speaker 4: is who's more likely to attempt something extreme just for fun?
Speaker 5: Who's who's the more outrageous and who's more careful?
Speaker 3: Me?
Speaker 1: No, I seem I'm always up for anything as it's
Speaker 1: really close school.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 6: I think we're both we're happy to jump into something
Speaker 6: new and crazy.
Speaker 1: But I went Bundy jumping. You didn't. That's the only
Speaker 1: thing you haven't done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think indoor Arabman on the holiday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's just silly. I choose to sit on
Speaker 1: the beach. That's just stupidity, not extreme.
Speaker 5: Either of you jumped out of an aeroplane yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a couple a couple of times with it.
Speaker 3: One in New Zealand a couple of years ago.
Speaker 5: Yeah, who's got I mean you both go.
Speaker 4: So you both travel in a certain direction when you're
Speaker 4: either cycling, or you're both cycling, or you're driving. Who's
Speaker 4: got the best sense of direction?
Speaker 1: I'd say me maybe.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: He insists on always on using about always, even if
Speaker 1: he knows where he's going, whereas I like to choose
Speaker 1: my head. And when you ride bikes for a living,
Speaker 1: and back in the day when we didn't have GPS,
Speaker 1: you had to know directions for your training. So I've
Speaker 1: always been pretty good for directions. Yeah, ninety eight percent.
Speaker 6: Normally it is the case that I follow it you.
Speaker 6: It makes my life easy to just follow.
Speaker 1: But in a car in Adelaide, when I know the
Speaker 1: roads at the back of my hand, he still insists
Speaker 1: on listening to the GPS and not listening to me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because you know, with the traffic situation analytics nowadays,
Speaker 6: you can actually save a minute or two if you
Speaker 6: do different routes, So I like to tech on that side.
Speaker 5: Interesting hate beol.
Speaker 4: You're renowned for your golden mullet, So I've got a
Speaker 4: question for you about the mullet. Was that on your
Speaker 4: radar before you met Tiffany? I mean South Australians were
Speaker 4: way ahead of the curve on mullets. They they've owned
Speaker 4: mullets in Australia for many, many years. So was that
Speaker 4: something that Tiffany introduced you to or did you just
Speaker 4: sort of develop that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely tiffinitely introduced me.
Speaker 6: Like I think without meeting her, I wouldn't have disc
Speaker 6: gold and mullets at the moment.
Speaker 3: I think that's fair to see.
Speaker 1: So there's a picture when he was a kid.
Speaker 3: I did have a mullet.
Speaker 6: When I was like only maybe like three years old,
Speaker 6: I had a beautiful mullet.
Speaker 1: One.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh really, so really business at the front at the like.
Speaker 6: Yeah, when I was young, like very young kid, mullets
Speaker 6: were still a thing in Finland.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: There's a dude on Instagram and he goes fishing from
Speaker 4: mullets because obviously mullet is a fish, and he calls
Speaker 4: it mullet fishing.
Speaker 5: Have you seen it?
Speaker 4: And he cuts, he cuts, and he's got a lure
Speaker 4: and he keep brings in a mullet on a mullet.
Speaker 3: That's so smart.
Speaker 5: I think that's in your future.
Speaker 4: You seem so together even though you're apart, and you
Speaker 4: seem so great together. Is family creating a family part
Speaker 4: of your plan down the road.
Speaker 3: That's a it's a good question.
Speaker 6: Like we've so far being so busy with our careers, yeah, traveling,
Speaker 6: being active, you know, doing our work, you know, almost
Speaker 6: every week of the year, and at the moment there's
Speaker 6: been definitely no chance for that. But then eventually, when
Speaker 6: I think, for both of us, when when that kind
Speaker 6: of twenty four to seven active career thing ends, And
Speaker 6: that's something we obviously got to think about in life.
Speaker 6: But I don't know, just jump in if you think otherwise.
Speaker 6: But yeah, we are almost like having had time to
Speaker 6: really think about it because we've been so busy with certain.
Speaker 1: Things, well for gus and kind of enjoy life right
Speaker 1: now and let's see what the future brings, sees does whatever.
Speaker 4: Guys, thank you so much for creating this time and
Speaker 4: spending the time. I wish Ali was here. She does
Speaker 4: send her apologies that she wasn't able to come. She
Speaker 4: brings a lot of heart to this and I do
Speaker 4: miss her and you would have loved to meet her,
Speaker 4: I'm sure. But thank you so much for your time today.
Speaker 4: I've got thank You've got I've just got a couple.
Speaker 4: I've got a couple of questions. We call it the pulse.
Speaker 5: So and just keep your answers a little bit short.
Speaker 4: So I'll ask you if you can both answer this
Speaker 4: question these questions for me, who do you admire?
Speaker 1: It's always hid like there's so many, so many. Maybe
Speaker 1: one of my good friends, Lizzie Dagnan, who in the
Speaker 1: world of cycling, she was one of the first to
Speaker 1: really kind of break down some of the boundaries for
Speaker 1: like changing the way women's cyclings be. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: what she's achieved and what she's done is pretty cool.
Speaker 6: I admire my parents because I only realized like a
Speaker 6: bit later that how much they actually helped me in
Speaker 6: my career. And say, not just financially, but like in
Speaker 6: terms of time, like every time I wanted to go
Speaker 6: go according I never recall them saying no. So that
Speaker 6: was pretty cool, Like, actually, there, we're giving their time
Speaker 6: to me to do my thing.
Speaker 5: That's great, that's great. What do you miss when you're
Speaker 5: not together?
Speaker 6: Well, she make me breakfast in the morning and for
Speaker 6: me Tiffany making dinner in the evening, especially, I'm a
Speaker 6: tackle Tuesday.
Speaker 3: You do them.
Speaker 5: We do Taco Tuesday too.
Speaker 1: We bought like the Talking Price last year from Mexico game,
Speaker 1: because that'll just glomen free, so to get green free shells.
Speaker 1: You know that's only like the mass market ones.
Speaker 5: Do you make your own corn chips?
Speaker 3: No, we haven't, get we could?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah you could, Yeah you could. Last question your
Speaker 5: partner in one word, supportive.
Speaker 3: Okay, I hope. I was hoping you were going to
Speaker 3: say ice, and I said fire.
Speaker 5: Lovely.
Speaker 4: Well, I wish you well, really great things as you
Speaker 4: as you as you bring your collective ships home, and
Speaker 4: good luck because I know things can change on a
Speaker 4: dime for you.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I just wish you really well.
Speaker 4: And a lot of good fortune and abundance. And thank
Speaker 4: you so much for joining Yes today.
Speaker 1: Thank you for having us, Thank you m hm.