1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: For Valetuie is a bit more level. Although the first 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: you were together, when it was with Mercedes the first 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: time and you know, fighting for those wins and fighting 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: for the championship, there was definitely a few more ups 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: and downs and you know when there were the tough races, 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: it was like, okay, sometimes it doesn't go your ways. 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes by luck happens and it's about then focusing on 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: the next race. 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: We would like to acknowledge the gategyl people of the Orination, 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,639 Speaker 2: the traditional custodians of this land, and pay our respects 11 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: to the elders, both past and present. And this is 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 2: the heart of it now. Power couples in sport are 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: relatively common, but few would win a race against the 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: combined speed and skill of these two. Ozzie Olympic cyclist 15 00:00:55,000 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: Tiffany Cromwell and Formula one driver Valetree Bota. I did 16 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: not actually get to be a part of this conversation. 17 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: You held this all on your own cab. Where did 18 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: you go? 19 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 3: I loved it. I loved it. 20 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 4: Tiffany's an exciting elite Australian bike rider right and Valtrie 21 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 4: is a Formula one legend legend so and but he 22 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 4: also loves riding bikes. Two and so it's an interesting chat. 23 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 4: You there, you were away doing your TV show and 24 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 4: I'm sitting in the studio in Australia or in Sydney. 25 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 4: Valdrie was in McLaren Vale in South Australia and Tiffany 26 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 4: was in Monaco. 27 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: Incredible. 28 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, so there we were thanks to technology. And I 29 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 4: mean it looks it's interesting because they've got all the 30 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 4: hallmarks of being an Aussie couple. So they met in 31 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 4: a pub. He has a mullet. Oh yeah, right, and 32 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 4: they have a gin together. They create a git and 33 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 4: it's called Oath. 34 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: Come on, come on, wow, that's awesome. 35 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, they've got they've also this is this is on 36 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 4: top of everything else that they're doing in their in 37 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 4: their chosen fields. It's a great chat. Absolutely, they talk 38 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 4: about all sorts of things. 39 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 5: But yeah, it's it's really fun. 40 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 4: We won't we won't take up any more ever your time. 41 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 4: Let's jump straight into this chat with Val Thorie Botas 42 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 4: and Tiffany Cromwell. Welcome Val and Tiffany to the heart 43 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 4: of it. How are you guys. Where are you guys. 44 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: We're off at the side of the world right now. 45 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: I am in at the moment, south of. 46 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 6: France, Okay, and Vale, I'm in Australia in McLaren Bell, 47 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 6: South Australia. 48 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 5: Tiffany, you're from South Australia. Is he staying at your place? 49 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: Actually not, because my family is a bit further in 50 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: the Adelaide Hills and he likes his warn't too much 51 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: to what's doing McLaren Vale. 52 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 4: Oh, McLaren Vale's there. There are some There are some 53 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 4: beautiful places in the world, and that is one of them. 54 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. 55 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 4: So how does the Formula one driver from Finland come 56 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 4: to meet an Ausie Olympian from South Ossi it spends 57 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 4: most of her time on a bicycle. 58 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 5: How did that happen? 59 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 3: At a pub, at a part local pub in Monaco places. 60 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was already living over here because we 61 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: have to live in Europe to race our bikes, and 62 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: I'll have to be living there too, and just happened 63 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: to be in that same pub at the same mode. 64 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: And yeah, the rest is history. 65 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 4: So who approached who? And what was it about each 66 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,839 Speaker 4: other that you know? And how long ago was that too? 67 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 6: Well, once we met it was actually quite a while 68 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 6: that we met again, but we ended up on one 69 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 6: bike ride together. 70 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 3: I was already kind of. 71 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 6: Riding bikes a little bit, just for my fitness. But yeah, 72 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 6: then eventually my life situation changed as I got divorced, 73 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 6: and then obviously I could I kind of knew what 74 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 6: I wanted, and that was Tiffany. So then when went 75 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 6: straight in and yeah, ended up actually coming to Australia 76 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 6: that following winter, after we had met and spent some 77 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 6: time with tiff in Adelaide and went from there. 78 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 4: Really who saw who first? And who made the first 79 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 4: who who did the walk over? And hey, hey, hey, 80 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 4: how did that go? 81 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 3: I think somebody just chanced us common friends? 82 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just a handshake, okay, And then, as 83 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 4: you said, it took a little while longer to sort 84 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 4: of work it out from there. 85 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I was still married, so obviously eventually 86 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 6: I knew that was not not going to work. Once 87 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 6: I was not married anymore than had a pretty clear target. 88 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 3: Well there you go. 89 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 6: I knew that we could have lots of fun, fun, 90 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,239 Speaker 6: fun fun together, and she, yeah, seemed like a lovely person. 91 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 5: So went streading and what's what's it's? Bike riding been 92 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 5: the connective for you. 93 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: It was definitely one of the common interests and one 94 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: of the things we could do together quite quickly, which 95 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: is nice. You know, we're fortunate with cycling that a 96 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: lot of sports do crossover with that musical fitness, so 97 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: you know we do go riding with all sorts of people, 98 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: and yeah, it was a way to get to know 99 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: each other. And then then we quickly saw we had 100 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: a lot of other mutual interests. You know, there was 101 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: like coffee for example, traveling, adventure, gin, all these sorts 102 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: of things, so I think, yeah, that was the first thing, 103 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: but then we quickly saw there was a lot of 104 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: other things that we shared a common interest with and 105 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: just yeah, enjoy doing together. 106 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 5: We travel the world. 107 00:05:55,400 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 4: So you just mentioned coffee, which I love. Who's got 108 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 4: the best coffee in the worldly? 109 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: Obviously? 110 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: Wow? 111 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 5: You agree with that, Valfie. 112 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, on average if you go to a coffee shop 113 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 6: or even like a hotel Australia, when absolutely on the 114 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 6: on the average level. 115 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 3: Of coffee, who's got the worst? 116 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: France? Really you think, so, oh yeah, that's absolutely okay. 117 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: We've been really broad here, like they you know, there 118 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: are people who have created coffee shops in Paris as 119 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: a coffee scene now, and there are a few places 120 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: here and there you can get a good coffee shop, 121 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: but the average, if you ask for a coffee in France, 122 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: it's not probably not gonna be very good. 123 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 124 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're talking about the average, like there's obviously good, 125 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 6: good spots, but yeah, on average, I'm not for sure. 126 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 4: You're going to say that the middle of America, all. 127 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 5: The square states in America, Yeah, pretty nice? 128 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah yeah. 129 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 4: Okay, So you've both got demanding schedules with what you do, 130 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 4: and clearly you're in different countries right now, how do 131 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 4: you make time for each other and how do you 132 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 4: stay together when you're not together? 133 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: Well, we're lucky that these days technology has come a 134 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: long way, so you know, we have all the devices, FaceTime, 135 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: these sorts of things, which you know, if you think back, 136 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: even when I start my sycling career, we didn't have that, 137 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: which is like two thousand and five, my first time 138 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: in Europe. But otherwise, yeah, we luckily we both like 139 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: to travel and you know, within reason, we can kind 140 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: to each other's races and depending on the time of 141 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: the season because with my bike I can train anywhere 142 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: and with Valetiepeas and got commitments. He can kind of 143 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: come anywhere. So yeah, we've made it work quite well 144 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: by doing it that way, right. 145 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 4: And Valtui twenty is it twenty two races? Twenty two 146 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 4: countries for a year? 147 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 5: For you? 148 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: Twenty four races. 149 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 5: Are twenty four races? Excuse me? 150 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 4: Right? 151 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 5: So that's that's a lot of travel. It's a lot 152 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 5: of a lot of hotels. 153 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 4: What's your best give me one of your best travel tips. 154 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot of travel. 155 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 6: And it's not only that, you know, there's also you know, 156 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 6: I do some work with the team, so there's separate trips, 157 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 6: there's separate sponsor events which sometimes could be in another continent, 158 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 6: you know. So it's pretty for long But travel tips, well, 159 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 6: I'm still myself discovering Australia. For me, there's still a 160 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 6: lot to see because it is a big country. But 161 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 6: like places i've been Japan, it's always up in the list. 162 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 6: And something more exotic that I keep going back to 163 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 6: is the northern Finland and northern Norway. It's pretty stunning 164 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 6: and it's it's so different from many other other places. 165 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's northern lights are pretty spectacular right now, I've 166 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 4: got a photographer made of mind that he keeps sending 167 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 4: photographs back from hel Sinki each year he goes there 168 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 4: and photographs the northern lights. 169 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 5: I got to get there at some point. 170 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 171 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 172 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 6: And Finland is like the more north you go, the 173 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,599 Speaker 6: better it gets, sort of just get out from the 174 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 6: people and the cities. 175 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 176 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 5: How much time to get to spend in Australia, you two, Well. 177 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 1: I'll actually have to spend more time than me. It 178 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: sings having the F one there, and it well because 179 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: with the F one there, it's at the worst time 180 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: for me, like a calendar. It's like the very busy 181 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: time of racing where we have a lot of the 182 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: big one day races here in Europe. But like this 183 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: year we did our six week stint which was really 184 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: good over December January, but that's normally the only time 185 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: we get back. This year we get a bonus trip 186 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: because there's some gravel races out there in April that 187 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: have made to work in. So yeah, but not more 188 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: than two months for you, I would say, yeah, but 189 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: usually less than that. Usually it's more like one to 190 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: one and a half months. 191 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. You both. 192 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 4: Participants in elite sports and that requires a certain mindset 193 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 4: to stay at the top. How do you support each 194 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 4: other through that? Do you let each other go or 195 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 4: do you lean on each other at certain times? 196 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: I think we are good understanding each other. For sure. 197 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: There's more intense times and when there's not, and there's 198 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: times where we can kind of see like okay, they 199 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: just need their space, or other times where it's like 200 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: you can bounce ideas off each other or or just 201 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: have other conversations to distract yourself from the intense period. 202 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: So I think both understanding the pressures of high level 203 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: elite sport helps you understand why someone maybe might be 204 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: in a bad mood or you know, had a bad race, 205 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: and how to say the right words to kind of 206 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: get through that and kind of refocus and things like this, Yeah. 207 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 6: I agree, and like you kind of get it. You know, 208 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 6: once you've been through your ups and dancing in the sport, 209 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 6: you learn to it's not like mentally, how does defect 210 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 6: you and your partner most likely as well. So for me, 211 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 6: I find it actually quite easy to read Tiffany and 212 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 6: just trying to kind of reflect to myself, like how 213 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 6: would I will how would I feel in that position 214 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 6: if exemple had a bad race or stuff like that. 215 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 6: Sort it's pretty pretty straightforward. 216 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, And so do you ever allow the thought to 217 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 4: come in because obviously there's a there's an expiry date 218 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 4: for elite sportsmen where you're no longer in that top 219 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 4: echelon of what you're doing, and you sort of have 220 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 4: to look at your role again, what. 221 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 5: Is my role in this now? 222 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 4: I'm actually still going for those top three spots or 223 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 4: whatever or top ten? 224 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 5: Do you allow yourself that space to sort of go, 225 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 5: what next? 226 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 4: What happened? What's the next stage? And do you plan 227 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 4: for that later on? Are you in that sort of 228 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 4: are you in that headspace? 229 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 5: Both of you. 230 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 6: Definitely planning, Like I think it's always good to plan, 231 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 6: and I think that's one mistake many athletes they do 232 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 6: in their life that get don't start planning early enough 233 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 6: because definitely, like you mentioned, nothing last forever, and especially 234 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 6: in sports, so as it can be quite restricted period 235 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 6: that you can actually make a living out of it. 236 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 6: And also what's then going to keep you busy? 237 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 3: You know? So personally I've. 238 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 6: Been planning for a long time, you know, thanks to 239 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 6: you know, good advisors and stuff like that. So already now, 240 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 6: Like if I wouldn't be in the modern sports, I 241 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 6: would be pretty busy on other stuff and I could 242 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 6: control the huges of my time on homocuspent in different things. 243 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 6: So I think that is really important for anyone because 244 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 6: if you drop on nothing of their sports career, then 245 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 6: that's typically when you see issues after that with the personalities. 246 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 7: Right, what would you say that, Tiffany, Yeah, I'd agree 247 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 7: with Boucher because of course I'm also like towards the 248 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 7: end of my career, sure, and I've changed a lot 249 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 7: throughout my career of being the one targeting the results 250 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 7: and now kind of helping mentor the younger writers and 251 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 7: being a road captain using experience to kind of support 252 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 7: my teammates to get the bigger results. 253 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: But for sure, there is that expiry data. Yes, you 254 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 1: hear so many stories of athletes going into depression or 255 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: being lost or being bankrupt, you know, within a few 256 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: years after finishing their careers, because you go from being 257 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: in the spotlight to almost being a nobody. So yeah, 258 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: like Baltrie, I've been trying to set myself up as well, 259 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: and I have a lot of hobbies and you know, 260 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: we've kind of created a few brands are in there, 261 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: so for sure you're always thinking about it. But I'm 262 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: sure when the time comes, there will be that moment. Okay, 263 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: so what are we doing? Which are we targeting? But yeah, 264 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: I think it's always important to build those skill sets 265 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: or use the networks who we're fortunate to be able 266 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: to be associated with or meet throughout our career to 267 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: open up these opportunities for when the time comes and 268 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: when it says, okay, the career is done of being 269 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: an complete Now what are we doing? 270 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's usually there's quite a lot of time 271 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 4: that happens after that because you think about I'm thinking 272 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 4: of AFL footy players and soccer players and stuff. 273 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 5: You really you know the top. 274 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 4: I mean, you might get one or two people that 275 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 4: play into their late thirties, but most of it it's 276 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 4: done around, you know, sort of the mid thirties, and 277 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 4: then you're onto the next, onto the next phase. Tiffany, 278 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 4: you mentioned hobbies. I'm loving the helmets that you create 279 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 4: for val Thie. The artwork that you do. Is that's 280 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 4: one of the hobbies that you might persevere with or 281 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 4: is that just a fun thing to do for you. 282 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: At the moment, I keep it just as fun. That's 283 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: why I call it a hobby. But you know, design 284 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: and creativity has always been something I'm passionate about. You know, 285 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: when I finished school, I studied passion design, and then 286 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: my second career took off, so I could never really 287 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: finish that, and I doubled in design cycling apparel and 288 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: then so yeah, it's always just something I've enjoyed and 289 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: self taught a lot of it. And when Valichie and 290 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: I started dating, then you know, he asked me to 291 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: design his helmet and at first I thought like immense pressure, 292 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: because that's their identity, you know, the driver's helmet is 293 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: only individual thing that they can have that represents themselves. 294 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: And you know, I've never done anything in that space before, 295 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: but I was like, okay, let's go. And it started 296 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: with just a one off helmet for the odds GP 297 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: that never happens. And if I look back at that design, 298 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, Like it was fun, but yeah, it 299 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: needed a bit of work. I think now now I 300 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: see what I've done since. But you know, I do 301 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: really enjoy it, and can I go into that and say, okay, 302 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: put it is just as a business like, yeah, sure 303 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: it could be. We'll see. You know, I'm always open 304 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: to projects, you know. But the thing is with all 305 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: those things, it's like you need to work with the 306 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: client or I only work with Baltie and he's lucky. 307 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: Gives me a lot of freedom. And yeah, we play 308 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: with the ideas and you know, you have your your 309 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: standard season helmet, but then with all the individual races, 310 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: it's really fun to kind of be like, Okay, what 311 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: story can we tell through the helmet? And so I 312 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: really enjoy that side of things, And yeah, it's definitely 313 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: something on the radar or something in the design space 314 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: I could consider doing. 315 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 4: I imagined with Australians they would love it for the 316 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 4: golf club fundraisers getting one of those helmets and putting 317 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 4: it up and raising money for charity. 318 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 5: Get a lot of people getting on those. 319 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. And we have done a few helmets for 320 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: foundations or for fundraising. So when we can, we like 321 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: to try to make a difference and associate with causes 322 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: you know, we're passionate about. So yeah, like we always 323 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: keep at least one helmet of every design. That's the 324 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: only thing I asked fell Through for like a bit 325 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: of a collection. But you know, sometimes we'll have two 326 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: of a standard of a special edition design for example, 327 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: and yeah, like we just did one last year for Brazil. 328 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: The coffee company he is involved with Kahuar and Finland 329 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: where you know, they're selling coffee and then people can 330 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: win the helmet and then the thunds raised are going 331 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: to the local coffee projects in Brazil to kind of help, 332 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, because for the farmers are at the bottom 333 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: of the change. So things like data is what we're 334 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 1: trying to do. And yeah, so it's nice if you 335 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: can make a difference through the power get designs as well. 336 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I think it's really a kind thing to do. 337 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 4: It's so fun too, always fun to be creative and 338 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 4: things too. Hey, what is you know, as we're talking 339 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 4: about it's high stakes for you guys in your in 340 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 4: what you do, high pressure. I'm sure there are setbacks. 341 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 4: We all go through setbacks, whether that's in relationships or 342 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 4: in our work. What we want and we get pushed back. 343 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 4: Can you share some advice that you've given each other 344 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 4: when you've experienced setbacks to set things you know on 345 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 4: a different track. 346 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 6: Well, normally one advice to quite a few times I've 347 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 6: told Tiffany if she is like in her mind like 348 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 6: thinking about yeah, something negatively or stuck in like bad 349 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 6: mood or just I know it by something or that's normally, 350 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 6: I try to tell her to look at the big 351 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 6: picture in life, you know, if it's like one bad 352 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 6: result here, you know, but look at everything. You know 353 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 6: that that we have, look at everything you've done in 354 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 6: your career, look at everything that there is a head 355 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 6: and that next next opportunity. That's probably my advice I've given. 356 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 6: If that's right, the big picture in life. 357 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: Definitely, yeah, for sure, and that the sound's going to 358 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: come up the next day. Like I know one that 359 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: probably is a bit more fluctuating mood. For Valtuie, he's 360 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: a bit more you know level. Although the affair she 361 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: were together, when it was with Mercedes the first time 362 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: and you know, fighting for those wins and fighting further championship, 363 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: there was definitely a few more ups and downs, and 364 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: you know, when there were the tough races, it was 365 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: like okay, you know, like it happens, Sometimes it doesn't 366 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: go your ways, Sometimes bad luck happens, and it's about 367 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: then focusing on the next race and saying okay, looking 368 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: at it, reviewing it, and then putting it behind you 369 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: and resetting and then to studying again. So I think 370 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: the keys always like, for sure, you'll have those moments 371 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: where you're disappointed or you're down, but not to let 372 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: it linger because that's when the spiral and you know, 373 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: mentally it can kind of crack you and you just 374 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: go further and further into a hole. So it's like 375 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: trying to reset, talking to the people who you know, 376 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: to come out of that, to look at the positives 377 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: and to like reflect on it, to say what can 378 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: we do better, and always trying to then reset the 379 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,479 Speaker 1: goals and what the next target is. 380 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, fantastic because I can imagine with both of you, 381 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 4: you both reliant on precision machines, plus you're dealing with 382 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,959 Speaker 4: humans dry having those machines that you're not quite sure. 383 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 4: You know, it's such a dynamic, but you're both in 384 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 4: dynamic sports. Things change all the time. So and often 385 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 4: the margins are so small, aren't they that you're dealing. 386 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: With sure, especially in valchory sport, you know, and they 387 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: have a lot more things that can go wrong that's 388 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: out of their power. 389 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, Like that's the thing sometimes there's yeah, certain things 390 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 6: that you can't control, you know, if things go solve 391 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 6: that you can't affect them. It is really important to 392 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 6: really move on quickly and not to think about it really. 393 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 6: But it's more like if you make a mistake yourself 394 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 6: or could have done better, then of course the first 395 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 6: thing is to understand why it happened, you know, and 396 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 6: what can I do better next time? 397 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 4: Just back to you, guys, being separated just through your 398 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 4: work and things like that, do you or how important 399 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 4: are rituals and routines in your relationship to stay connected? 400 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 4: Can you share anything about what you do? 401 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, like every morning, every night. We normally we speak 402 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 6: every day on the phone. But like at home, I 403 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 6: don't know. I think we're both pretty happy to freestyle 404 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 6: and you know, we know that each other. We are busy, 405 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 6: but we always stay connected. That's one thing for sure. 406 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 6: But apart from that. 407 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: Not much exactly because I think, you know, sometimes it 408 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: can be where we are both at a race, so 409 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: then we're both so busy, justs focused on that right now. 410 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: It's like I'm not a race at the moment, and 411 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: well it's got a hundred things going on. But yeah, 412 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: like we say that the main thing that's always a 413 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: common is when we wake up, we'll send each other 414 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: a message or and yeah, just before going to bed. 415 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: Like I'd say, that's the one thing that's always a yeah, 416 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: a thing we do. 417 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 3: What's it? 418 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 4: What's it like when you're watching each other race and 419 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 4: you're in you know, you're watching the television coverage and 420 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 4: you hear the commentators say something. 421 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 5: Crappy about each other? 422 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 4: What's the when they might make a comment You're going, 423 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 4: oh my, I'm going to kill that person. 424 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 3: I haven't heard that action? What you haven't had compliments 425 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 3: for TIF on TV? 426 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 5: Well that's good? Yeah, Tiff, have you ever heard anything? 427 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: Most of the time it's positive. Sometimes you get them 428 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: and then you know, you just kind of like you 429 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: brush it off. You know it's for TV or you knows. 430 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: You know, there's certain commentator as a journalist, like to 431 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: have an opinion just to be controversial because that's what 432 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: gets the clicks. So you learn in that sport that 433 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: everybody has an agenda, so you don't really take anything personally. 434 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 3: There. 435 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 4: You go, tell me, have you ever do you give 436 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 4: each other tips? Like when you're watching that thing, you go, oh, 437 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 4: Tiff you should have gone around the. 438 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 5: Other side of that or do you ever is that? 439 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 5: Is that against the rules with you too? 440 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? 441 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 3: Not really nice. 442 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 6: You know it's if obviously been racing since young age, 443 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 6: and she's the professional in that sport and I'm not, 444 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 6: you know, and I'm a vice versa. 445 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 3: You know, I don't get driving. 446 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: Tips from tip exactly. Like, if anything, I will ask 447 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: them questions like why did they do this strategy or that, 448 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: just for me to understand, because you know, if you're 449 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: not there in person hearing what's happening in the radio, 450 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: you don't really know why they're doing certain things in 451 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: the race. But but that's because you're watching from a 452 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: far and you kind of understand how the sport works. 453 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: But I'm not going to be like, why did you 454 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: not overtake that guy? Or yeah, because again, like well 455 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: just said like it's it's not my sport. I'm not 456 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: the expert and I'm just there to support. 457 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 4: Okay, So to that then vow Loves he's cycling. Do 458 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 4: you do you ever give you know, aerodynamic cycling tips, 459 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 4: you know, pull your knees in that sort of stuff 460 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 4: for your elbows, not aero stuff. 461 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: But I definitely give him some tips like around training 462 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: or now he's getting to be racing through gravel racing. Yeah, 463 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: I can give him some some things to think about, 464 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: or you know, even fueling and strategy like that, because 465 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: you know, I have so many years of being told 466 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: these things. Yeah, so from that, I can definitely give 467 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: some insights and then but also it's up to him 468 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: and how he wants to take them and use them 469 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: in his own performance. 470 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 3: Yeah. 471 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 4: Amazing. Hey, so you're in business together. What's what's what's 472 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 4: that dynamic like between you? Does that has that changed anything? 473 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 4: Or how do you work together? 474 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 3: I don't think it really hasn't changed anything. 475 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 6: If it's if anything is something else that we can 476 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 6: do together outside sports, which is kind of kind of 477 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 6: fun and in the end, like everything we get involved 478 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 6: together is true passion normally, which means it's always going 479 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 6: to be fun no matter what. So yeah, no, no, 480 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 6: if anything that's connected, I'll seeing it anymore. 481 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, we can always bounce ideas off 482 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: each other. And we're lucky with the various businesses we're 483 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: involved with together, Like we have other people we're working with, 484 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: so it's kind of like team efforts and it's more 485 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: we can discuss things between each other, like what we 486 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: want to change, what we need to discuss about with 487 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: our business partners, and yeah, just ultimately we both have 488 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: the same goal and the same vision of trying to 489 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: make them successful. So I think we're on the same 490 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: page and we you know, we both know what we're 491 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: doing within those companies. 492 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 4: And just a quick brief, what are you doing together? 493 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 4: What are some of these businesses that you're working on. 494 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have our oath Gin which that's a big 495 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: passion project. It's so one we're very heavily involved with, 496 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: i'd say, and you know we build it from scratch 497 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: with a very small team and just brought into Australia. 498 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's been a fine and challenging project. We 499 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: also have some gravel races in both our hometowns, so 500 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: Finland Gravel and red Or Gravel. There is a mass 501 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: participation event where we also have elites and amateurs racing together. 502 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's kind of been, isn't your disciplining a 503 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: lot of cycling? I think that's all directly right. But 504 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: then there's a few things that for example, Baltrie is doing, 505 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: like his wine project with al US trainer in McLaren 506 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: bell I, Hannah. 507 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 5: Oh, I'm very impressed. I can't wait to taste that. 508 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 509 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 6: So, actually today we just finished the blend for the 510 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 6: edition three of the wine. When that I do with them? 511 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 6: So but that edition tree is going to be launched 512 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 6: next year. But we've done number one, which he has 513 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 6: sold out. But we launched number two in January and 514 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 6: there's still some left. 515 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 3: So what's that called, Ihanna. 516 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: Which is finished for wonderful or lovely? Yes, so, I 517 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: a few finish words. That's actually eat somewhat easy to pronounce. 518 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 3: It's funny that you actually mentioned. 519 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 6: I'm now at the at the place of the wine 520 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 6: maker Corina of Oliver Stern. 521 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 5: So yeah, oh, will you tell her from me? She's 522 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 5: a winner. 523 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 4: I've got a few bottles laid down that and I 524 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 4: give it to my mea. We lived in the States 525 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 4: for twenty five years and anytime I went to someone 526 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 4: famous as house, I always took them a bottle of 527 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 4: Olivers that said you're gonna you are gonna love this. 528 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 3: I like your one test. Thank you so much. 529 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 4: Hey, I will say, speaking of words and finish words, 530 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 4: I Hannah, how did you go with the Aussie vernacular 531 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 4: the vultui with you know that we put a y 532 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 4: on everything, brecky, prezzy, chucky. 533 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 3: I'm still learning. 534 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 6: I'm doing pretty good nowadays, but uh still, every now 535 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 6: and then I get a new new word of the zilingo. 536 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 3: But yeah, get get in there. 537 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 6: And I'm finally starting to understand tiffany as well. 538 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 3: It's pretty pretty nice. Yeah. 539 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 5: Is that that's a that's an ongoing thing. 540 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think of that ongoing process now. 541 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, can you think of one that just absolutely had 542 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 4: your stumped? 543 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 5: Do you just like, I don't know what you're talking about. 544 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 6: There's been many, many occasions. I don't know chief for 545 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 6: any any good ones, but simple ones like tongues. You know, 546 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 6: it's very to me. That's not a cliplop, it's something else. 547 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 6: You know, it's normally like woman's underwork. 548 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 3: But yeah, stuff like that. 549 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 8: Only when you liked when you heard it the first 550 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 8: time in real life was fair income because we're waiting 551 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 8: to do the ferrying to go to kangar Island and 552 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 8: this guy was like trying to argue something and then 553 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 8: he finished very digham. Oh they actually use that expression. 554 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 5: I love it. Is there a finish equivalent to any 555 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 5: of that sort of stuff. 556 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 6: Well, one thing, especially in South Australia, like yeah, na, 557 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 6: it's pretty common. And actually in finish there is your 558 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 6: your A your a, which is like exactly the same 559 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 6: meaning and we actually use it quite a bit. 560 00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 3: So that was funny to do. 561 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 5: Have to put that one in. 562 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 4: Hey, who takes who takes longer to get ready before 563 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 4: you go out? And and between the two of you 564 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 4: is who's more likely to attempt something extreme just for fun? 565 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 5: Who's who's the more outrageous and who's more careful? 566 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 3: Me? 567 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: No, I seem I'm always up for anything as it's 568 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: really close school. 569 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. 570 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 6: I think we're both we're happy to jump into something 571 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 6: new and crazy. 572 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: But I went Bundy jumping. You didn't. That's the only 573 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: thing you haven't done. 574 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think indoor Arabman on the holiday. 575 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's just silly. I choose to sit on 576 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: the beach. That's just stupidity, not extreme. 577 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 5: Either of you jumped out of an aeroplane yet. 578 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a couple a couple of times with it. 579 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 3: One in New Zealand a couple of years ago. 580 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, who's got I mean you both go. 581 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 4: So you both travel in a certain direction when you're 582 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 4: either cycling, or you're both cycling, or you're driving. Who's 583 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 4: got the best sense of direction? 584 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: I'd say me maybe. 585 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 3: No. 586 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: He insists on always on using about always, even if 587 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: he knows where he's going, whereas I like to choose 588 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: my head. And when you ride bikes for a living, 589 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: and back in the day when we didn't have GPS, 590 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: you had to know directions for your training. So I've 591 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: always been pretty good for directions. Yeah, ninety eight percent. 592 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 6: Normally it is the case that I follow it you. 593 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 6: It makes my life easy to just follow. 594 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: But in a car in Adelaide, when I know the 595 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: roads at the back of my hand, he still insists 596 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: on listening to the GPS and not listening to me. 597 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, because you know, with the traffic situation analytics nowadays, 598 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 6: you can actually save a minute or two if you 599 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 6: do different routes, So I like to tech on that side. 600 00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 5: Interesting hate beol. 601 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 4: You're renowned for your golden mullet, So I've got a 602 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 4: question for you about the mullet. Was that on your 603 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 4: radar before you met Tiffany? I mean South Australians were 604 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 4: way ahead of the curve on mullets. They they've owned 605 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 4: mullets in Australia for many, many years. So was that 606 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 4: something that Tiffany introduced you to or did you just 607 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 4: sort of develop that. 608 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely tiffinitely introduced me. 609 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 6: Like I think without meeting her, I wouldn't have disc 610 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 6: gold and mullets at the moment. 611 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 3: I think that's fair to see. 612 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: So there's a picture when he was a kid. 613 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 3: I did have a mullet. 614 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 6: When I was like only maybe like three years old, 615 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 6: I had a beautiful mullet. 616 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: One. 617 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 618 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 5: Oh really, so really business at the front at the like. 619 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, when I was young, like very young kid, mullets 620 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 6: were still a thing in Finland. 621 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 622 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 4: There's a dude on Instagram and he goes fishing from 623 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 4: mullets because obviously mullet is a fish, and he calls 624 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 4: it mullet fishing. 625 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 5: Have you seen it? 626 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 4: And he cuts, he cuts, and he's got a lure 627 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,479 Speaker 4: and he keep brings in a mullet on a mullet. 628 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 3: That's so smart. 629 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 5: I think that's in your future. 630 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 4: You seem so together even though you're apart, and you 631 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 4: seem so great together. Is family creating a family part 632 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 4: of your plan down the road. 633 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 3: That's a it's a good question. 634 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 6: Like we've so far being so busy with our careers, yeah, traveling, 635 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 6: being active, you know, doing our work, you know, almost 636 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 6: every week of the year, and at the moment there's 637 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 6: been definitely no chance for that. But then eventually, when 638 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 6: I think, for both of us, when when that kind 639 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 6: of twenty four to seven active career thing ends, And 640 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 6: that's something we obviously got to think about in life. 641 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 6: But I don't know, just jump in if you think otherwise. 642 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 6: But yeah, we are almost like having had time to 643 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 6: really think about it because we've been so busy with certain. 644 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: Things, well for gus and kind of enjoy life right 645 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: now and let's see what the future brings, sees does whatever. 646 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 4: Guys, thank you so much for creating this time and 647 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 4: spending the time. I wish Ali was here. She does 648 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 4: send her apologies that she wasn't able to come. She 649 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 4: brings a lot of heart to this and I do 650 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,239 Speaker 4: miss her and you would have loved to meet her, 651 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 4: I'm sure. But thank you so much for your time today. 652 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 4: I've got thank You've got I've just got a couple. 653 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 4: I've got a couple of questions. We call it the pulse. 654 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 5: So and just keep your answers a little bit short. 655 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,959 Speaker 4: So I'll ask you if you can both answer this 656 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 4: question these questions for me, who do you admire? 657 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: It's always hid like there's so many, so many. Maybe 658 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: one of my good friends, Lizzie Dagnan, who in the 659 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: world of cycling, she was one of the first to 660 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: really kind of break down some of the boundaries for 661 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 1: like changing the way women's cyclings be. Yeah, I think 662 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: what she's achieved and what she's done is pretty cool. 663 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 6: I admire my parents because I only realized like a 664 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 6: bit later that how much they actually helped me in 665 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 6: my career. And say, not just financially, but like in 666 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 6: terms of time, like every time I wanted to go 667 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 6: go according I never recall them saying no. So that 668 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 6: was pretty cool, Like, actually, there, we're giving their time 669 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 6: to me to do my thing. 670 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 5: That's great, that's great. What do you miss when you're 671 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 5: not together? 672 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 6: Well, she make me breakfast in the morning and for 673 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 6: me Tiffany making dinner in the evening, especially, I'm a 674 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 6: tackle Tuesday. 675 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 3: You do them. 676 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 5: We do Taco Tuesday too. 677 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: We bought like the Talking Price last year from Mexico game, 678 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: because that'll just glomen free, so to get green free shells. 679 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: You know that's only like the mass market ones. 680 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 5: Do you make your own corn chips? 681 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,959 Speaker 3: No, we haven't, get we could? 682 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah you could, Yeah you could. Last question your 683 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 5: partner in one word, supportive. 684 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 3: Okay, I hope. I was hoping you were going to 685 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 3: say ice, and I said fire. 686 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 5: Lovely. 687 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 4: Well, I wish you well, really great things as you 688 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 4: as you as you bring your collective ships home, and 689 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 4: good luck because I know things can change on a 690 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 4: dime for you. 691 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 5: So yeah, I just wish you really well. 692 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 4: And a lot of good fortune and abundance. And thank 693 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 4: you so much for joining Yes today. 694 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: Thank you for having us, Thank you m hm.