1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Now, yesterday we were talking to the mayor of Alice 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Springs because the told you on Friday. Third day in 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: a row we're talking about Alae Springs. The news just 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: keeps coming out of there. On Friday there was an 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: announcement from People's Choice Credit Union that they're going to 6 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: close their branch in Alice because of concerns over staff safety. 7 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: I've got to take that seriously and as first priority, 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: People's Choice say, and therefore they don't feel they can 9 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: continue to operate safely in Alice Springs. So yesterday we 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: spoke to the mayor about that. Today the news has 11 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: come out early this morning that Alice Springs has ranked 12 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: as the eighteenth most dangerous city in the world, joining 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: Tijuana in Mexico, Port Moresby in PNG, and Pretoria in 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: South Africa. The mayor has already spoken on this, he 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: says Matt Pete Patterson. The ranking should be seen as 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: a wake up call for the rest of the country 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: to understand the pressure that Central Australia is under. We've 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: spoken with Darren Clark a number of times actually, and 19 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: for Alice is his Facebook page. He's a small business 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: owner runs a bakery in Alice Springs, and he joins me. Now, Darren, 21 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: this is not good news obviously. 22 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: Good morning, okay, Matthew, how I am good? 23 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: Thank you? So eighteenth most dangerous city in the world. 24 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: Terrible news. 25 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not good news. But we've been we've been 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: fighting around in the top top thirty in our for 27 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: a few years now. We've cracked in today the top twenty. Yeah, 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: it's not it's not good, but it's indicative of what's 29 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 2: going on after you, Matthew, it just continues to go 30 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: on and yeah, look it's like a crack record sometimes, 31 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: you know, it's just it's just really, really, really frustrating 32 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: for the likens here. What continues to happen over the 33 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: over the weekend. You know, we've we've had some horrific 34 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: things happen here over the weekend. Now, matthewly talking about 35 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: home invasions. This is where three men three one youth 36 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: and two adults were thinking, or we're being told we're 37 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: not getting a real lot of information out of the 38 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: police in regards to this. But on Friday night or 39 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: early Saturday morning, three thirty am, they kicked the door 40 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 2: in a house in a suburb here. They've virtually ripped. 41 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: They have ripped the front door off, they've ripped the 42 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: screen door off. They've came in. An eight year old 43 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: child was going to the toilet. He's been then had 44 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: a machete hill to his throat and virtually told to 45 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 2: get back into the bed. The mothers come out and 46 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 2: there she's had a machete hill to her A six 47 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: year old continued to sleep. A fourteen year old child 48 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: then had to protect a three year old child from 49 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: the offenders while the mother was being threaten and Matthew, 50 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: this is all for a bottle of bloody grog. Mate 51 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: for a bottle of grog. Now then they've broaken in. 52 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: They've done another, a couple of booths, they've got smash 53 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: the window in another house they've got in. I got 54 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: some alcohol. But the young lady there, she has a 55 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: thirty year old females. She's she barricades herself in the bedroom. 56 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: They've actually kicked the bedroom door in and they've got 57 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 2: in there after alcohol again. We've had another one where 58 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: they got in and they got car keys. So we 59 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: had a seven year old lady in the mid seventies. 60 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: She woke up with three people in her bedroom with 61 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: a knife. Goodness, um, she fled the scene. Look when 62 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: I when I sat down with Anthony ALBERNIZI a few 63 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: weeks ago, Matthew, when he come up to you. You know, 64 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: he's gone on about the rights and that we've had 65 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: in town and the kerfuffle that was made of that nationally. 66 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: And I said him, don't worry about that, body, don't 67 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: worry about these riots because we've had We've had lots 68 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: of these things. There's a traditional payback brought into town. 69 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: It will be Indigenous on Indigenous. They won't hurt you 70 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: and I that thereafter their target target people in the payback. 71 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: I said, what you've got to worry about, Prime Minister 72 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: is the people sleeping in their beds that wake up 73 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: with a machete to their throats, not to their throats, 74 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: for car keys, for grog and for money. They're the 75 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: ones you've got to worry about now, Matthew. This this 76 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 2: is just an absolute national shame of what's happening here 77 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: in our spring, and it's happening right across the territory. Catherine. 78 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: At the moment, Catherine is under siege. You know, the 79 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: beautiful town of Catherine's under siege. I've been darling, mate, 80 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: the suburbs. It's just the place is, the place is 81 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: really really out of control. Now what really frustrates the 82 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 2: people here, and what I try to highlight is I 83 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: get these stories sent to me, Matthew, and a lot 84 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 2: of these stories will not get released by the place 85 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: media here by which is influenced by the government, because 86 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: they don't want the stories getting out. I put these out. 87 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 2: I contact the police minister, I contact police media and say, 88 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: I've got this story. Are you guys going to show it. Yeah, 89 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: we're looking into it. They're not going to, So I 90 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 2: just put it up, mate, and then they're forced. 91 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: To do it, okay, and then does their version correspond 92 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: with yours. 93 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: They leave out the details, mate, They leave out the 94 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: young children and the machetes held. 95 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: All appalling, all appalling. So I don't understand. I mean, 96 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: if I lived there, well, I wouldn't be living there. 97 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: That's the thing I would have moved by. Now are 98 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: people doing that? 99 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, mate, you know I've got a old friend 100 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 2: who has been you know, had real estate business here 101 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: for a long time, and I've asked him, we've got 102 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: three hundred houses or two hundred and ninety nine properties 103 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: on the market here at the moment. Really now it 104 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: used to be sitting around one hundred marks, you know, 105 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: where at three hundred they've crippled this place. Mate, that 106 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 2: they've heard us. We've got businesses closing down now. Just 107 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: remember you talked about people's choice there. You've talked about 108 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: people's choice closing down because the safety of their stuff. 109 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: Let's not forget that Coles and Woolworth in Alice Springs 110 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: do not stay open after seven pm every night of 111 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: the week because of the safety concerns for their staff. Mate. 112 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: This is the only seabd probably in Australia. You can't 113 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: drive in at six fifty five and buy a lettuce. 114 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: You can't buy a lettuce in the CBD of Alice 115 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: Springs after seven pm. It's an absolute crying shame, mate, 116 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,799 Speaker 2: Like you, what are you say anymore? 117 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: Mate? 118 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 2: What do you say? We plead for help here, We 119 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: asked that we've got one of the weakest We've got 120 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: one of the weakest opposition parties here in the country, 121 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: little party you've ever seen. Do you know they have 122 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: not spoken up, They have not said a word about 123 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: what happened here over the weekend. It is an absolute disgrass. 124 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: We've gone the election in about four or five weeks 125 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: here and the people here, all they're saying is we 126 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: have no Bible alternity. So we're lost. Mate. We're like 127 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: a ship. We're like a ship without a runner. At 128 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: the moment, do you people are jumping off for the lifeboats. 129 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: Some aren't even making the lifeboats. 130 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: Matthew, do you need the curfew back? It can't be 131 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: a long term solution, but it seemed to work. 132 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, well well the last one. The last one wasn't 133 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: as good because it's spread it out a bit. But 134 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: we need a town wide lockdown after six pm. So 135 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: you have to have a valid reason to go out, mate, 136 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:07,239 Speaker 2: because you know, I've got TV sent to me all 137 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 2: from all around town. From all around town, people's yards, 138 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: people's back you know, back areas of their house, their 139 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: front doors, their garages. There's just people everywhere looking for 140 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: an opportunity to get into their homes. And it Mate, 141 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: you have to sweep with one eyay open here and 142 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: if anyone in South Australia that formerly lived here, they 143 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: would know they would know this. Well, lay your head 144 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: down some night and you'll just wait waiting to be 145 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 2: woken by by something. Mate. We've got commodorees driving around 146 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: the suburbs dropping us off to go and hit hit house. 147 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: It's like an organized crime ring here. 148 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: That's what it is. 149 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: It's not it's not a racial problem. It's behavioral problem. 150 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 2: There is so that that that mother, that mother with 151 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: a fortune. She's an indigenous person, an indigenous person. I 152 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 2: must stress to the rest the rest of the people 153 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: listening to this, this is not a racial problem. This 154 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: is a behavioral problem. They don't care who they target, mate, 155 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 2: as long as they get their grog, as long as 156 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 2: they get the car keys, and if they can get 157 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: some cash or a PlayStation on the way out, send station, 158 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: sense station. We had another we had another couple of 159 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: cars stolen here last night, not farf where my business mate. 160 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 2: It goes on every single night, but these ones with 161 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 2: machetes and knives, kicking down front doors and coming into 162 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 2: people's bedrooms. Mate, we need some we need some serious 163 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: help here now, the Prime Minister, there's probably no point 164 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: in coming up because I had that is. They closed 165 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 2: the place down, they clean it all last, buss everyone out, 166 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: and it's all pretty and happy. The flowers are warded 167 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 2: in the lawns and Mode made. The birds are tweeting it. 168 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 2: It's a magnificent little show to watch. But he does 169 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: not know the underlying issues here and the seriousness of 170 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: the And if he does, Anthony, I believe he's got 171 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: his head in the scene and he doesn't care for 172 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: his fellow Australians living sense for Australia, because we're crying 173 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 2: for bloody. 174 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: Help here, Darren. It it sounds as I said, It's 175 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: a horror show, is what it is. And if I 176 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: was there, I would have gone by now. I don't know. 177 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: I don't know how people put up with it, but 178 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: three hundred empty properties for sale is probably indicative that 179 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people are doing exactly that. Mate, Thank 180 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: you for your time. I don't know if it will 181 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: get any better, but you I hope it does. 182 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hope. 183 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: Thanks No, thank you, thank you for your time. Darren Clark. 184 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: Action for Alice is his Facebook page. He's a business 185 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: owner in the town and this is on the back 186 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: of the news Today. Alice ranked us one of the 187 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: world's most dangerous cities, eighteenth on the list, behind Tijuana, 188 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: or with Tijuana, Port Moresby and Pretoria in South Africa. 189 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: What a horror show and it's all I can say.