Speaker 1: Live on Sky News.
Speaker 2: This is Sharry.
Speaker 3: Thanks Andrew, good evening, Welcome to the show. First tonight,
Speaker 3: to an exclusive report, Prime Minister Anthony Alberzi personally announced
Speaker 3: that his government was spending one hundred million dollars to
Speaker 3: upgrade the road that you guessed it leads right to
Speaker 3: his new four million dollar house. I can reveal that
Speaker 3: in June this year alban Easy personally spoke about a
Speaker 3: Voker Drive undergoing a major upgrade. Have a look.
Speaker 4: The minister might want to respond there, but a Voker
Speaker 4: Drive one of the times I was here. I know
Speaker 4: that the surveying work has all been done, and I
Speaker 4: know that this is a real choke point. So it's
Speaker 4: very important and that's why we've provided funding to make
Speaker 4: sure that it happened.
Speaker 5: The planning work is still being finalized for a Voca Drive,
Speaker 5: but it's set to start middle next year. We're working
Speaker 5: with the new South Wales government, who obviously the delivery
Speaker 5: partners for the project, to deliver that. We provided additional
Speaker 5: money in the last budget. One hundred and thirty million
Speaker 5: dollars has now been allocated for this project.
Speaker 3: As you just heard the Infrastructure Minister Catherine King saying
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty million dollars was being spent on
Speaker 3: the road and that work would start the middle of
Speaker 3: next year. Now one hundred million dollars of that is
Speaker 3: federal funding and thirty million from the state government. Mister
Speaker 3: Albanezi initially committed thirty million during the federal election campaign
Speaker 3: and then another seventy million in January last year. Now,
Speaker 3: this is a road that alban Easy will need to
Speaker 3: drive on to get to his new waterfront mansion. And
Speaker 3: you can see that on this map. A Voker Drive
Speaker 3: turns into Empire Bay Drive, that into Cullins Road, you
Speaker 3: make a right turn at Cape three Points Road and
Speaker 3: then you reach his new digs on del Monte Place.
Speaker 3: The proximity to the property is pretty clear. Now, Albanizi
Speaker 3: probably knew that he wanted to buy a place in
Speaker 3: the area. He said yesterday that he chose Copa Cabana
Speaker 3: because his future wife is a coasty.
Speaker 4: Jodie's a coasty, She's a proud coasty.
Speaker 3: So did Albanezy know he was going to buy in
Speaker 3: the area before he announced the one hundred millions of
Speaker 3: dollars in taxpayer funds? And is this something that he
Speaker 3: should have disclosed if it was already on the hunt
Speaker 3: for properties when he spoke about that funding in June
Speaker 3: this year. Well, these are questions for the Prime Minister
Speaker 3: to answer. It is a matter of public record that
Speaker 3: he's committed one hundred million dollars to a road that
Speaker 3: he'll need to drive on to reach his new cliff
Speaker 3: top mansion. A spokeswoman said the funding was complet completely
Speaker 3: unrelated to the house purchase. She said that the Albanese
Speaker 3: government has delivered record road infrastructure funding to ensure Australians
Speaker 3: everywhere have better roads to drive on. Well, in the
Speaker 3: past two days, we've seen that labor and peas are
Speaker 3: shocked at Albanese's poor political judgment. His decision to splurge
Speaker 3: over four million dollars on a waterfront mansion that won't
Speaker 3: even be his main residence is being called one of
Speaker 3: the dumbest political decisions he's made. The Australian's Political editor,
Speaker 3: Dennis Shanahan says that it's up there with Scott Morrison's
Speaker 3: Hawaii holiday and Tony Abbott's decision tonight Prince Philip. He
Speaker 3: writes that no matter what Albanese says to justify the purchase,
Speaker 3: it's a bad political look that makes him appear out
Speaker 3: of touch with people renting and trying to buy their
Speaker 3: own home. He says. It also raises the immediate thought
Speaker 3: that it's a time at parachute for after the election.
Speaker 3: We spoke about that here on the show last night.
Speaker 3: Labor and Peas were left to have to try defend
Speaker 3: the prime ministers out of touch property splurge today.
Speaker 6: I don't go and talk to the Prime Minister about,
Speaker 6: you know what, my finances. He doesn't come and talk
Speaker 6: to me about his, nor should he. If he had,
Speaker 6: I would have said, mate, you do what you think
Speaker 6: is necessary for your family with respect. He's a prime minister.
Speaker 6: He's also an Australian citizen.
Speaker 5: He wouldn't be a the verse politician or indeed person
Speaker 5: in Australia to buy and sell property.
Speaker 1: Yron.
Speaker 7: Yes, he grew up poor in council housing.
Speaker 2: As he said, he's been on a good wicket.
Speaker 8: He's devoted his life to public service. He's been frugal,
Speaker 8: and he's in a new relationship and has bought a
Speaker 8: house with his fiance.
Speaker 3: It's a topic they just don't want to be speaking about,
Speaker 3: and Coalition figures today called it out of touch?
Speaker 8: Is the Prime Minister out of touch?
Speaker 3: I've been saying he's out of touch for a long time.
Speaker 3: Just think that the timing and the tone of this one,
Speaker 3: it has been a little bit tone deaf.
Speaker 9: The homeowner is in Australia that I'm worried about it
Speaker 9: at the moment of people who can't afford their mortgages.
Speaker 3: But the Opposition doesn't need to attack this. It's obvious
Speaker 3: to anyone that it's tone deaf, insensitive and out of touch.
Speaker 3: It's a slap in the face to ordinary Australians who
Speaker 3: can't afford to buy a home or meet their mortgage repayments.
Speaker 3: How can the Prime Minister stand up there and tell
Speaker 3: Australians that he understands what they're going through when he's
Speaker 3: buying a cliff top mansion. Now I've confirmed that he
Speaker 3: did take time out from running the country to go
Speaker 3: and do an inspection of this home before he bought it,
Speaker 3: so he was off house hunting while Australians were struggling
Speaker 3: to pay their bills, meet their mortgage repayments after thirteen
Speaker 3: interest rate rises. But there's also shows that he just
Speaker 3: doesn't care enough about winning the next election, and he
Speaker 3: doesn't care enough about his MPs in marginal seats where
Speaker 3: housing affordability is unquestionably the top political issue. One can
Speaker 3: only assume that he's become swept up in the entitlement.
Speaker 3: He travels in a private plane that he jokingly refers
Speaker 3: to as Toto one, after his dog. He's got a chauffeur,
Speaker 3: a cook, free travel, and hotels. He's become so used
Speaker 3: to the life of luxury that perhaps he can't understand
Speaker 3: why his own MPs are stunned that he's bought a
Speaker 3: waterfront home during an economic crisis just months out from
Speaker 3: polling day. Now, Michael Kroger and Graham Richardson are going
Speaker 3: to be on the show in just a moment to
Speaker 3: talk some more about that. But let's get the latest now.
Speaker 3: On the Middle East, the United States has sent a
Speaker 3: threatening ultimatum to Israel demanding it increase humanitarian aid to
Speaker 3: Gaza within the next thirty days of face weapons cuts.
Speaker 3: The letter, written by US Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln
Speaker 3: and also Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, has warned Israeli ministers
Speaker 3: I'm going to quote it here that failure to demonstrate
Speaker 3: a sustained commitment to implementing and maintaining these measures may
Speaker 3: have implications for US policy. So this is a very
Speaker 3: threatening letter from the United States, and it's been sent
Speaker 3: just weeks before the presidential election. But the United States
Speaker 3: knows all too well that Israel has been sending enormous
Speaker 3: supplies of both food and aid into Gaza. The problems
Speaker 3: on the other side. It's up to the humanitarian organizations
Speaker 3: in Gaza to distribute it, and they're clearly not doing
Speaker 3: that properly. And in some cases we know that Hamas
Speaker 3: is looting the goods and then reselling them at inflated prices.
Speaker 3: But let's have a look now at the actual facts.
Speaker 3: Let's take yesterday, October the fifteenth, well A, one hundred and
Speaker 3: four trucks carrying humanitarian goods were transferred into Gaza. Seventy
Speaker 3: six via the Kerem Shalom crossing and twenty eight by
Speaker 3: the Ers crossing, so one hundred and four a trucks,
Speaker 3: but only twelve of the seventy six were collected from
Speaker 3: the Gaza side of Kerem Shalom. Every day there are
Speaker 3: up to thirty tons of aid going into Gaza, and
Speaker 3: these figures are published daily, but there are currently five
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty trucks worth of AID sitting in Gaza
Speaker 3: waiting for collection, five hundred and thirty trucks sitting abandoned now.
Speaker 3: Also yesterday there were six gas tankers for the operation
Speaker 3: of essential infrastructure that entered Gaza. There was also the
Speaker 3: second round of pole vaccination for children that began just
Speaker 3: yesterday across Gaza, and on top of this, seventy six,
Speaker 3: three hundred and ninety four children received vitamin A. There
Speaker 3: are also twelve bakeries currently operating in Gaza, four in
Speaker 3: the north and eight in the south. Now Kogat, that's
Speaker 3: the Israeli body that distributes AID in Gaza. It has
Speaker 3: thoroughly rejected the notion that they're impeding the aid, the
Speaker 3: entry of any aid at all. They say Israel has
Speaker 3: not halted the entry or coordination of humanitarian aid. Elon Levy,
Speaker 3: who was on this show last night, he made the
Speaker 3: point today on social media that the best way to
Speaker 3: ensure the uninterrupted supply of humanitarian aid into Gaza is
Speaker 3: to remove from power the terrorist regime that is hijacking
Speaker 3: that aid, siphoning some for itself and selling the rest
Speaker 3: at extortion prices. Now, of course the Democrats know that
Speaker 3: this is what's happening. They know that Israel is letting
Speaker 3: aid in and tons of it, literally tons. This is
Speaker 3: all about politics as the election gets closer and Kamala
Speaker 3: Harris is worried she'll lose Nancy Pelosi. Also, this isn't accidental,
Speaker 3: this is by design. Nancy Pelosi came out overnight slamming
Speaker 3: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Not withnawho.
Speaker 4: No, I don't think he's ever believed in peace or
Speaker 4: to state solution.
Speaker 3: That's very, very disappointed. Well, given Nancy Pelosi played a
Speaker 3: prominent role in overthrowing Joe Biden, she probably now thinks
Speaker 3: she can end Nettiyaho's Prime ministership as well. Well. Pelosi
Speaker 3: needs to be reminded that Israel is a democracy. Up
Speaker 3: to the Israelis to decide who their leader is, not
Speaker 3: some out of touch left leading Democrat living a world
Speaker 3: away from daily rocket fire. And perhaps Pelosi should spend
Speaker 3: more time calling for the overthrow of terrorist regimes that
Speaker 3: are raping, mutilating, and murdering thousands of people, including American citizens.
Speaker 3: Those are the ones who do not believe in peace,
Speaker 3: not Israel, but that would be asking too much from
Speaker 3: yet another fraudulent feminist. Now I've got another big show tonight.
Speaker 3: Former IDF combat commander Jonathan Conrichis will join me live
Speaker 3: from Israel. Shorty plus James Patterson, Michael Schubridge. That's all
Speaker 3: coming up, but first let's bring in now former Victorian
Speaker 3: Liberal Party president Michael Kroger and former labor minister Graham Richardson. Welcome, gentleman, Michael.
Speaker 3: I want to start with youraw reaction to my revelations
Speaker 3: tonight on the show that the Albanezy government has announced
Speaker 3: one hundred million dollars in taxpayer funds for the Evoker
Speaker 3: drive upgrade a road that Albanezy has to drive on
Speaker 3: to get to his house. Now coincidental of cost, but
Speaker 3: it's not a good look.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a shocking look.
Speaker 10: If you thought yesterday was terrible, today is even worse,
Speaker 10: given what you've said. Coincidental, yes, of course, But to
Speaker 10: spend one hundred million dollars of federal funds, which is
Speaker 10: going to probably increase property values in the area, which
Speaker 10: is what happens when these major upgrades take place, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Center it's a terrible look. Look, Sharry.
Speaker 10: This guy was elected to parliament when John Howard was
Speaker 10: elected Prime Minister twenty eight years ago. On the second
Speaker 10: of March next year, Albo will have been in Parliament
Speaker 10: twenty nine years and he's going to try and convince
Speaker 10: the electorate later that month or in April or May
Speaker 10: that he wants to stay for another four years. That
Speaker 10: would be thirty three years in parliament. People are not
Speaker 10: going to buy that. This guy looks as if he's
Speaker 10: moved to retirement. He's getting married again, he's buying a
Speaker 10: house on the beach up in the north. He's run
Speaker 10: out of path. He looks like someone is exhausted. He
Speaker 10: doesn't look like he's inspired or ready to go for
Speaker 10: another five years as Prime Minister or leader of the
Speaker 10: Labor Party. The stuffing was knocked out of him from
Speaker 10: the voice onwards. He's never recovered and he just seems
Speaker 10: to be going through the motions and he looks as
Speaker 10: if to me and I'm sure everyone out there, this
Speaker 10: guy just looks as he's headed towards retirement.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely got one eye on it. To spend your
Speaker 3: time house hunting when you're in the middle of a
Speaker 3: cost of living crisis, a housing affordability crisis, Richoe, what
Speaker 3: was he thinking?
Speaker 2: That's a good question.
Speaker 11: I think the timing is, shall we say, somewhat ill considered.
Speaker 11: Obviously he's been in the job a long time. Politicians
Speaker 11: are relatively well paid, so imagine if you go to
Speaker 11: the bank manager, it wouldn't be too difficult for him
Speaker 11: to raise the money. But that having been said, it's
Speaker 11: how it all looks, and at the moment, you know,
Speaker 11: with so many people battling to get a house at all,
Speaker 11: it's not a good look. It wasn't politically clever.
Speaker 3: Rich I've got to ask you, what are some of
Speaker 3: the labor insiders saying to you.
Speaker 11: I think there's a little bit of disappointment in his judgment.
Speaker 11: That's what's been conveyed to me. But you know, in
Speaker 11: each defense, I've got to say, you've got.
Speaker 3: To be able to buy your house.
Speaker 11: That's one of the fundamental things that Australians have always
Speaker 11: talked about is the right to home ownership.
Speaker 3: Well, he's got a couple of homes already. We're talking
Speaker 3: about a beach house here in a cost of living
Speaker 3: and housing affordability crisis. So I don't know if you
Speaker 3: Australian dreamans you've got to be able to have a
Speaker 3: third and fourth property and one on the beach.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I know, but we're talking about a beach house
Speaker 11: to which he's going to retire. I mean, we're not
Speaker 11: talking about something he's going to be having on the
Speaker 11: market to rent for the next thirty years. He's going
Speaker 11: to retire in it in the next couple of years
Speaker 11: and live in it forever.
Speaker 3: So Michael, But Michael, I mean, is this the message
Speaker 3: that he should be setting to Australians, that is preparing
Speaker 3: to retire when he's meant to be focused all of
Speaker 3: his energy on the multiple scandals that he's unleashed on
Speaker 3: our country.
Speaker 10: No, Look, it's a terrible message. I mean, look, the
Speaker 10: one thing a politian has to do is say I'm
Speaker 10: going to serve out the full term. I'm definitely going
Speaker 10: to twenty twenty nine. It's what he'll have to tell people.
Speaker 10: I've got no intention of doing any other than being there.
Speaker 10: If you give the electorate any sense at all that
Speaker 10: you might retire midterm after the twenty five election, you
Speaker 10: might retire in twenty six to twenty seven, so you're
Speaker 10: not there for the long term. You will get trounced
Speaker 10: at the polls. The elector will not vote for a
Speaker 10: politician who is who is basically announced their retirement. Oh
Speaker 10: but could you reelect me pleased for another few years
Speaker 10: whilst I workout who should be most successful.
Speaker 1: Or to enjoy the job whatever, No, there's no way.
Speaker 10: The electorate always want a politician who is going to
Speaker 10: work one hundred hours a week on their behalf for
Speaker 10: them and for the country. If you give any impression
Speaker 10: all that you're on the way out the door, you'll
Speaker 10: get flogged. And this is just such a shocking look.
Speaker 10: He looks as if he's He looks as if he's
Speaker 10: headed for the door, and everyone can see that.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows he is headed for the door.
Speaker 10: That's why Charmers and Burke and all these other people
Speaker 10: are sniffing around.
Speaker 1: It's a terrible look.
Speaker 3: No, one hundred percent. Well, let's turn to someone else
Speaker 3: who is about to get chanced in the polls, and
Speaker 3: that's Premier Stephen Miles in Queensland, ten days now away
Speaker 3: from losing office. If the career mail poll is anything
Speaker 3: to go by, the primary vote has the L and
Speaker 3: P ahead by eighteen percent. And this comes as the
Speaker 3: leaders faced off in another fiery debate.
Speaker 6: He can't tell Queensland how he is funding is more
Speaker 6: than seventeen billion dollars of election commitments.
Speaker 4: We are in a youth crime crisis, we are in
Speaker 4: a health crisis, and the fact the government won't say
Speaker 4: those words tells you they will never be able to
Speaker 4: fix it.
Speaker 3: Rich O, Queensland has clearly seem ready for a change.
Speaker 3: Do you think this sentiment might also impact federally as well?
Speaker 11: No, I don't think so. It's I think that we've
Speaker 11: seen so many times that people do think separately in
Speaker 11: those two instances, but certainly in the Queensland election, things
Speaker 11: are looking more than grim for labor.
Speaker 3: Michael. Do you think this will be a wipeout in Queensland?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 10: I mean, you know, in defense of per Old Stephen,
Speaker 10: they are going for fourth term and as they keep saying,
Speaker 10: fourth terms are almost impossible to win. Because the Electric thinks, well,
Speaker 10: if if it's so necessary to reelect you, because you've
Speaker 10: got those great ideas, why did you implement them before?
Speaker 10: I mean, the implement the fifty cent transport feares, before
Speaker 10: the free lunches at schools before, No, the Electric things
Speaker 10: lease are just destinate measures so you can get another
Speaker 10: four years premiere if they were such good ideas you've had,
Speaker 10: you've had since twenty fifteen to Wilming with them. So
Speaker 10: he looks as if he's headed for eight percent plus
Speaker 10: swing against him. I think christophully On he needs five
Speaker 10: in a mid eleven or twelve seats. So Miles is
Speaker 10: going to get flogged. He's trying his best, but he's
Speaker 10: just he looks desperate and he's going to be headed
Speaker 10: for the door on Saturday week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, indeed, And well I'll be watching of course. Now.
Speaker 3: Foreign Minister Pennywong has been pandering for some time now
Speaker 3: to the pro Palestinian crowd. Well she got to see
Speaker 3: some of them up close today at the University of Tasmania.
Speaker 3: She was trying to deliver a speech. She just couldn't
Speaker 3: get through it. Here's what happened.
Speaker 5: This is a very distressing Well, I don't actually believe,
Speaker 5: and I've never believed that we gain any thing by
Speaker 5: shouting each other down.
Speaker 2: Right now, leading.
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty four is on track to be even worse.
Speaker 3: She eventually just got fed up and she left the stage.
Speaker 3: She tried to lecture them she tried to tell them
Speaker 3: to listen to what she had to say. Rich, Oh,
Speaker 3: this is the crowd she's been poundering to.
Speaker 11: Yeah, well that's not much of a crowd that's worth
Speaker 11: poundering too. At any point, I think, you know mugs
Speaker 11: or trumps sometimes, and that's what you saw, then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Michael, I mean, unless she comes out and actually
Speaker 3: says that she doesn't support Israel's right to exist, she's
Speaker 3: she's not going to win with that group. And yet
Speaker 3: they keep trying to. They keep going further and further
Speaker 3: to the left, more and more extreme, to try and
Speaker 3: win them over.
Speaker 10: The noisiest vessels of the hard left and the hard right.
Speaker 10: And she's been pandering to the hard left for all
Speaker 10: the reasons we know, trying to stop the Greens winning seats,
Speaker 10: et cetera, et cetera. She's been panted to them. But
Speaker 10: you can never be extreme enough for these people. So
Speaker 10: I thought when I first saw that, oh, these will
Speaker 10: be you know, pro Jewish demonstrators angry with the treatment
Speaker 10: of Jews on campuses, for example.
Speaker 1: Then I thought, oh, no, it's the it's.
Speaker 10: People from her left, I mean, to be left of
Speaker 10: Penny Wong on the Middle East, is some damn achievement,
Speaker 10: to be honest, let's you know, that's some achievement. So
Speaker 10: you know, you can't panter these extremists. Their whole motus
Speaker 10: operande is to intimidate. They're trying to intimidate Wong. They
Speaker 10: certainly intimidate Albanez. You know a lot of people in
Speaker 10: the labor government. You have to stand up to thugs
Speaker 10: and bullies and Jewish hating racists in this country. You've
Speaker 10: got to stand up for them with honor and integrity
Speaker 10: and courage. And although you'd expect them to say this,
Speaker 10: that's what Peter Dutton has done, it's what James Patterson's done,
Speaker 10: and it's what Simon Birming has done.
Speaker 3: Yep. You know what, Michael, We have been broadcasting on
Speaker 3: the show just how unsafe it is for Jewish students
Speaker 3: to turn up to universities like A and U and Canberra,
Speaker 3: like University of Sydney. They can't actually get through classes
Speaker 3: lectures sometimes because of protests and activity like that. The
Speaker 3: federal government has been basically silent on it. And then
Speaker 3: Penny One got a taste of it today. I wonder
Speaker 3: if she regrets failing to stand up for the Jewish
Speaker 3: students exactly. Well, let's have a look at where Donald
Speaker 3: Trump and Kamala Harris are up to now. The latest
Speaker 3: polls have the election results so tight that Greg Sheridan
Speaker 3: wrote today that Democrats will spring both an October surprise
Speaker 3: and an election Day surprise in desperate last minute efforts
Speaker 3: to keep Trump out of office. Rich O, the polls
Speaker 3: that I've seen over the past day or so have
Speaker 3: Trump just ever so slightly ahead, zero point four percent
Speaker 3: ahead in those seven battle ground state. But we know
Speaker 3: that in the past elections his support has been underestimated.
Speaker 3: So where do you think this has had it?
Speaker 11: Well, I've got to say I'm a little worried. I
Speaker 11: wasn't so worried six weeks ago. But the closer it
Speaker 11: gets to the day, the better Trump's doing, There's no
Speaker 11: doubt about that. The question then becomes how many people
Speaker 11: go out to vote for it, because that's what it's
Speaker 11: all about in America is getting your team out onto
Speaker 11: the paddock. And I'm not sure that you know you
Speaker 11: can always guarantee that because you look okay in the polls,
Speaker 11: your team's coming out. And so, as far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 11: it still looks like a knife edge. But I'm certainly
Speaker 11: not giving Harris any edge over Trump, which I would
Speaker 11: have been doing a few weeks back.
Speaker 3: Just to be clear for any shadow of doubt, Rich,
Speaker 3: I strongly supporting Kamala Harris Kroger. How do you see this?
Speaker 3: Just you know, two and a half weeks or so
Speaker 3: out from polling day.
Speaker 10: So I think there's a sixty five percent likelihood And
Speaker 10: now that Trump will win. He looks like the winner
Speaker 10: in Arizona. He looks like the winner in North Carolina.
Speaker 1: He looks like the.
Speaker 10: Winner in Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin. She was well ahead
Speaker 10: and now she's only mildly head or the lioneball. She
Speaker 10: was ahead in Pennsylvania, now he's ahead. It's just it's
Speaker 10: all eyes on Pennsylvania, sar As. I'm concerned if he
Speaker 10: wins that he'll win the election. It looks as if
Speaker 10: he's going to win that The worst thing that's happened
Speaker 10: to her is there's a drift away from her. The
Speaker 10: momentum is slowly drifting away from her with not long ago,
Speaker 10: and it's going to be very hard for her to
Speaker 10: get that back. I think what's happened is this It's
Speaker 10: taken months and months and months, but eventually the electorate
Speaker 10: in America have worked out that she's not a serious
Speaker 10: enough person to be president of the United States in
Speaker 10: a world crisis and an economic crisis. For all these
Speaker 10: terrible faults, they feel safe with Donald Trump and she
Speaker 10: just doesn't seem to have the worth wherewithal to be president.
Speaker 10: Some of the answers she's given to questions seriously about inflation,
Speaker 10: et said that we've all seen totally unqualified to be
Speaker 10: president of the United States.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at the moment, she's her own worst enemy. If
Speaker 3: she can't handle media interviews, voters are saying, well, how
Speaker 3: can you be president of the United States? All right?
Speaker 3: Michael Kroger Grae and Richardson, thank you both very much.
Speaker 3: Now let's turn to deeply concerning comments by a Sydney barrister,
Speaker 3: as in a lawyer, a barrister who celebrated Hasbela leader
Speaker 3: Hassa Israla for being on the right side of history
Speaker 3: and a hero of the Arabs. This exclusive story in
Speaker 3: The Australian says that barrister Mamudmando said that Hesbela was
Speaker 3: created by the Israeli aggression and occupation of Lebanon shutout home.
Speaker 3: A fairs minister James Patterson joins me. Now, James, great
Speaker 3: to see you again. Do you think the New South
Speaker 3: Wales Bar Association needs to investigate these comments and whether
Speaker 3: this barrister is a person of certain standing to be
Speaker 3: able to continue to operate as a barrister.
Speaker 1: Good evening, Shari.
Speaker 8: These are extraordinary comments for any Australian to make, glorifying
Speaker 8: a dead terrorist leader and a terrorist organization, but they
Speaker 8: are particularly alarming from an officer of the court and
Speaker 8: a barrister. And yes, the New Sepals Bar should be
Speaker 8: investigating whether this is consistent with their guidelines and rules.
Speaker 8: I'm not privy to what they are, but I'd also
Speaker 8: encourage mister Mando, given that he is a barrister, to
Speaker 8: go to his office to take out a copy of
Speaker 8: the Commonwealth Criminal Code and to read it, because if
Speaker 8: he does so, he'll find that supporting a list of
Speaker 8: terrorist organization is a very serious crime with very serious penalties.
Speaker 8: That praising or glorifying a terrorist organization in a way
Speaker 8: that could incite others to order terrorist organization or commit
Speaker 8: an active terrorism is also a serious crime, and he
Speaker 8: should reflect on whether it's a good idea for a
Speaker 8: lawyer of anyone compared to anyone in the community to
Speaker 8: run close to breaking that law or close to that line.
Speaker 8: I think it's very ill advised behavior and you should
Speaker 8: reflect on that.
Speaker 3: But you can see why people feel comfortable to come
Speaker 3: out and say this in media interviews because there's barely
Speaker 3: been any action taken by law enforcement, even though, as
Speaker 3: you say, it is illegal to support a listed prescribed
Speaker 3: terror regime in this country. Now we see stories both
Speaker 3: in The Australian and the finn Review today that Jewish
Speaker 3: Australians are defying the new Albanesi government warnings to leave
Speaker 3: Israel while they still can and to not visit Israel.
Speaker 3: We're seeing that people are saying, or Jews are saying,
Speaker 3: they feel safer in Israel because of the horrific anti
Speaker 3: Semitism that we're seeing in Australia. And so we have
Speaker 3: seen the Australian government has upgraded its advice. They're now
Speaker 3: saying do not travel to Israel, and to any Australians
Speaker 3: there that they should come home. Now, James, from my perspective,
Speaker 3: there is no question it is physically safer here in
Speaker 3: Australia and having just been in Israel last week, having
Speaker 3: to listen out for sirens that warn of incoming missiles
Speaker 3: and then have to get down on the ground. I mean,
Speaker 3: it just is. It's alarming. The Iron Dome does intercept most,
Speaker 3: but not all, of the rockets, and then, of course,
Speaker 3: even if they do intercept the rockets, there's the danger
Speaker 3: of falling shrapnel, which does injure Israeli's But then when
Speaker 3: it comes to as a Jewish person expressing your identity,
Speaker 3: showing your identity with a mug and David or other
Speaker 3: jewelry or clothing, there's no doubt it's safer in Israel
Speaker 3: than Australia. So I want to ask whether this concerns
Speaker 3: you that the level of anti Semitism we're seeing in
Speaker 3: Australia that's been allowed to take hold is so bad
Speaker 3: that we're seeing a group of peop people now feel
Speaker 3: safer in a war zone than here.
Speaker 8: So it's deeply distressing to read stories like this. And
Speaker 8: I've also heard stories firsthand from members of the Australian
Speaker 8: Jewish community in Melbourne and Sydney that they are contemplating
Speaker 8: moving to Israel because they do believe they'll feel safer there,
Speaker 8: and that's an absolutely remarkable thing to say when you
Speaker 8: think about it. Israel's under attack right now from three
Speaker 8: terrorist organizations and a very menacing regime and the Iranian state,
Speaker 8: and so that people would feel safer there than in
Speaker 8: Melbourne and Sydney. In Australia, it is a travesty and actually,
Speaker 8: frankly a stain on our great country. It's something that
Speaker 8: we have to fix and it can only be fixed
Speaker 8: with two things.
Speaker 1: The first is.
Speaker 8: Political and moral leadership from the very top, from the
Speaker 8: Prime Minister, saying that we'll never tolerate this anti Semitism,
Speaker 8: that Jews are welcome in Australia, that they're part of
Speaker 8: our country, that they enrich our country. And the second
Speaker 8: is fixing this law enforcement crisis that you were talking
Speaker 8: about before and actually making sure the laws that on
Speaker 8: the books are enforced and extremism and extremists feel the
Speaker 8: consequences of their behavior, because until that happens, they will
Speaker 8: continue to be emboldened. And Jews who have lived here
Speaker 8: all their lives, who've come here and fled the Holocaust,
Speaker 8: who have been here and can trace their descendants back
Speaker 8: to the first fleet can feel safe again in our country.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a really sad state of affairs. And
Speaker 3: by the way, because I spoke about this in an
Speaker 3: article in the Sunday Telegraph and then I posted the
Speaker 3: article on x or Twitter, and the comments under it
Speaker 3: people just say leave, go to Israel, get out, We
Speaker 3: don't want you here. So the anti Semitism is there
Speaker 3: in black and white. It's astonishing. And I don't think
Speaker 3: any of them were ABC employees, by the way, but
Speaker 3: you never know. Now Kevin Rudd has caused a stowe.
Speaker 3: He's got a new book on She as in shi Jingping.
Speaker 3: This is a revamp of his old thesis in which
Speaker 3: he argued that the world will be most danger under
Speaker 3: She's leadership. Now, James, I want to see if you
Speaker 3: agree with this, because he says that if China is
Speaker 3: successful in invading or reunifying with Taiwan, then this will
Speaker 3: see a period of US decline. So if his assessment
Speaker 3: is right, do you think this therefore means that America
Speaker 3: should intervene to stop China from invading Taiwan. And we've
Speaker 3: just seen in the past couple of days those really
Speaker 3: aggressive war games that one hundred and twenty five military
Speaker 3: aircraft from the PLA and also the naval vessels encircling Taiwan.
Speaker 1: Sharrey.
Speaker 8: I think I'm going to be first to line up
Speaker 8: at the bookshop to buy Kevin's book because based on
Speaker 8: the excerpts that I have read, there's a lot that
Speaker 8: I agree with. In fact, it sounds an awful lot
Speaker 8: like the kind of things that people like me and
Speaker 8: Andrew Hasty have been saying since about twenty seventeen, in fact,
Speaker 8: the kind of things that Kevin Rudd used to criticize
Speaker 8: Andrew Hasty and I and others for saying. So it's
Speaker 8: a welcome change of heart from Kevin. Based on what
Speaker 8: I understand his argument is, I think there's a lot
Speaker 8: to agree with. There's probably two things that I disagree with. One.
Speaker 8: I think he over emphasizes the extent to which Hijinping
Speaker 8: represents change rather than continuity in the Chinese Communist Party.
Speaker 8: I think the most persuasive evidence is from people like
Speaker 8: Rush Doshi, whose book The Long Game really sets out
Speaker 8: that nothing has fundamentally changed about the trajectory of the
Speaker 8: Chinese Communist Party under Schujing Ping. He might have just
Speaker 8: accelerated it and the second is he makes a remarkable
Speaker 8: argument that once Shijingping leaves the stage, China will return
Speaker 8: to more moderate leadership under the Chinese Communist Party. I
Speaker 8: don't share that confidence at all, particularly because basically every
Speaker 8: analyst got Hijing Ping wrong. They said that he would
Speaker 8: be a moderating influence, and he certainly hasn't been that.
Speaker 8: So I don't think we can rest on our laurels
Speaker 8: and assume that that's not the case. To your early question,
Speaker 8: I think what it commands of us is to be
Speaker 8: as strong as possible and to work as closely as
Speaker 8: possible with our allies to deter Shujing Ping and the
Speaker 8: Chinese Communist Party from doing something incredibly reckless like invading Taiwan.
Speaker 3: M I think the comment that Joe Kelly made because
Speaker 3: he was the journalist who interviewed Kevin Right about his book.
Speaker 3: He said that Penniwang and albanize he should read this
Speaker 3: book because it's a wake up call. There seems to
Speaker 3: be this complacency Australia at the moment towards the communist
Speaker 3: regime in China. But I agree with you, and not
Speaker 3: only do we not know who she's successor will be,
Speaker 3: so therefore we don't know whether they will be more
Speaker 3: authoritarian or worse for the world. But also there's the
Speaker 3: fact that she has eliminated many of his rivals, so
Speaker 3: you know, anyone more moderate. We just don't know what's
Speaker 3: where they are, what's happened to them? Will there have
Speaker 3: been many mysterious disappearances. All right, James Patterson, really appreciate
Speaker 3: your time. Thank you. Now, after the break, what will
Speaker 3: Israel do with three captured Hezbla terrorists? A former IDF
Speaker 3: combat commander Jonathan conworkers will join me on the show,
Speaker 3: and later Kamala Harris takes Aimurt Donald Trump's dancing more
Speaker 3: on where this election is headed. Welcome back, and let's
Speaker 3: bring in now former combat commander and retired lieutenant colonel
Speaker 3: in the Israeli Defense Forces, Jonathan Conracates. Jonathan, thank you
Speaker 3: very much for your time. Look, I want to start
Speaker 3: with this letter from the United States. What's your response
Speaker 3: to the accusations from the US that Israel isn't sending
Speaker 3: enough humanitarian aid to Gaza.
Speaker 2: Yes, good day, and thank you for having me.
Speaker 12: It's a very serious deterioration, I would say in the
Speaker 12: relationship between the US and Israel.
Speaker 2: I would say that, on one hand.
Speaker 12: There is important information in it, and I think that
Speaker 12: Israel would be wise to improve and enhance the humanitarian
Speaker 12: operations full stop. And on the other hand, I would
Speaker 12: say that it is regrettable that this is the first
Speaker 12: important letter that the US government sends to Israel. As
Speaker 12: Israel is fighting on three active fronts on the ground
Speaker 12: and seven total fronts. It's a very delicate situation because
Speaker 12: Israel is very, very dependent on US support diplomatic and military.
Speaker 12: So bottom line, I think Israel has little choice but
Speaker 12: to make serious, enhanced, more efforts that beyond what Israel
Speaker 12: is already doing, in order to improve first and foremost
Speaker 12: the situation on the ground and then very importantly, the
Speaker 12: appearances of the situation on the ground. It's a difficult
Speaker 12: task because what Israel hasn't communicated well enough is that
Speaker 12: the problem isn't the amount of trucks that are delivered
Speaker 12: to the Gaza Strip. It is the final stage of
Speaker 12: distribution in the Gaza Strip, and that's where the big
Speaker 12: challenge is because that is where most of the aid
Speaker 12: either is stuck in you and warehouses or is looted
Speaker 12: and stolen on the way by local gangs or by
Speaker 12: rama's operatives, and at the end of the day, suffering
Speaker 12: Palestinians they don't many times get the aid that they
Speaker 12: need because of disruptions by Hamas.
Speaker 2: And Israel hasn't communicated.
Speaker 12: This well enough, and I think that the letter will
Speaker 12: urge Israel to do so.
Speaker 3: So I went through some of the figures at the
Speaker 3: start of my program, up to thirty tons of aid
Speaker 3: going into Gaza every day. As you say, there's a
Speaker 3: distribution problem from both the humanitarian groups inside Gaza, but
Speaker 3: also the issue of Hamas stealing the aid and then
Speaker 3: often reselling it at inflated prices. But Jonathan, while Israel
Speaker 3: hasn't communicated this well enough, as you say, to the public,
Speaker 3: the US must surely know this.
Speaker 12: Yes, But of course there's an election cycle getting close
Speaker 12: to the final lap in the US, and I think
Speaker 12: that the letter is part of that. It's part of
Speaker 12: an effort by the administration to show to various constituencies
Speaker 12: in the US that the administration is tough on Israel
Speaker 12: and holding Israel accountable.
Speaker 2: I think the elections.
Speaker 12: I'm not sure that the letter would have been sent
Speaker 12: had it not been election cycle. So I take that
Speaker 12: into account, but you know, addressing it seriously. There is
Speaker 12: more to do, and I think that it is within
Speaker 12: in Israel's interest to do more. But the challenge here
Speaker 12: is that the real combat environment in northern Gaza specifically,
Speaker 12: but also in the southern part is very very challenging
Speaker 12: and frankly, you know, to really supply all of the
Speaker 12: goods to the final distribution inside Gaza, that means that
Speaker 12: the IDF would have to safeguard the convoys itself in
Speaker 12: order to make sure that they get to the final user.
Speaker 12: And to be frank the IDEF doesn't have that amount
Speaker 12: of personnel, and the IDEF has to rely on Israel,
Speaker 12: has to rely on other institutions to do it, you
Speaker 12: and and other humanitarian organizations, and they are reporting that
Speaker 12: they are afraid to do so because of what Hamas
Speaker 12: is doing and other law lesson gangs inside Gaza.
Speaker 2: So it's a complex situation.
Speaker 12: There is suffering and I think we recognize that and
Speaker 12: is what is doing a lot of efforts, but not
Speaker 12: communicating it well enough yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just finally, Jonathan, what's your response to this demand
Speaker 3: from French President Emmanuel Macron. We see he keeps lecturing Israel.
Speaker 3: He's now demanding a ceasefire. What's your response to this?
Speaker 12: Very very unfortunate, very disappointing, I would say, and you know,
Speaker 12: I'm a student of military history. It rings familiar from
Speaker 12: the Second World War and before that, siding with the
Speaker 12: wrong side, not with the democracy, but with the aggressor.
Speaker 12: And it rings familiar in Jewish years. It rings familiar
Speaker 12: of dark times in French and global history. I think
Speaker 12: it's very unfortunate, and I think that any democracy in
Speaker 12: the world should have its priorities straight and understand which
Speaker 12: side of history they stand on. You're either on Israel's side,
Speaker 12: a democracy and imperfect democracy fighting for its survival against
Speaker 12: the forces of darkness in the Middle East, or you're
Speaker 12: with the forces of darkness. You can't have it both.
Speaker 12: And when you support Israel, which is what democracies should
Speaker 12: be doing, in my humble opinion, that shouldn't be caviated,
Speaker 12: and it shouldn't be with pressure on Israel, but it
Speaker 12: should be strong and proud support, even if it isn't
Speaker 12: convenient from domestic political purposes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what we're seeing across the board, including
Speaker 3: as you say, in the US, because there are high
Speaker 3: Muslim populations in some of those battleground states that the
Speaker 3: Democrats are desperate to win. Jonathan Connacist, thank you very
Speaker 3: much for joining me tonight live from Israel. Now plenty
Speaker 3: more to come on the show. New data exposes the
Speaker 3: financial pain Australians are feeling, all while the PM bats
Speaker 3: off claims that he's out of touch. My panel will
Speaker 3: talk about that next plus with the US Poll's Neck
Speaker 3: and Neck. Kamala Harris takes a sweat at Trump after
Speaker 3: his music fest. Stay tuned, welcome back. Well, let's bring
Speaker 3: in now for our political panel, Julia Gillard's former Press
Speaker 3: secretary Darren Barnett and National MP Keith Pitt. Welcome to
Speaker 3: you both. Darren. I want to ask your view, as
Speaker 3: a former Labor Press secretary, how can the Prime Minister
Speaker 3: buy a beach house just months out from the federal
Speaker 3: election being caught?
Speaker 13: I think also part of it is the price tag.
Speaker 13: Part of it is the scenario that most families are
Speaker 13: facing at the moment where times are difficult, the cost
Speaker 13: of living has gone through the roof, the idea that
Speaker 13: someone has a little bit extra to have an investment property,
Speaker 13: where most people are struggling to pay rent or meet
Speaker 13: their mortgage. I think he should have just waited until
Speaker 13: after the election, after his marriage, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 13: But the timing, it's not so much necessarily the even
Speaker 13: though that has some questions, but the timing is really surprising.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Keith, what do you think. I think Australians want
Speaker 3: to get the sense that their leader understands what they're
Speaker 3: going through, showing it with.
Speaker 1: A different view. I think to strike a genius.
Speaker 9: He's in the position to watch where Jim Chalmers has
Speaker 9: parked the Australian economy right on the edge of a
Speaker 9: clifford about to fall into this. So I've heard all
Speaker 9: the talk about retirement and everything else. And if the
Speaker 9: Australian people decide they want to retire the Prime Minister,
Speaker 9: they've got an opportunity between now and the end of
Speaker 9: May and that they can make a choice. But I'm
Speaker 9: not going to buy into the PM's personal circumstances that
Speaker 9: that's up to him. And I've also got this very
Speaker 9: unique view that I want people in the Parliament who
Speaker 9: can actually manage to hold alone pay their bills, run
Speaker 9: a business. I don't think it's actually in the nation's
Speaker 9: interest to have politicians who are basically can't scratch two
Speaker 9: cents together. I've never done anything terribly constructive, and in fact,
Speaker 9: we've all got to be poor. So I just this
Speaker 9: is a tough one, Shari. But let's be frank. He's
Speaker 9: purchased something with a new partner, and good luck to them, Darren.
Speaker 13: Look my only I agree that it's great that the
Speaker 13: prime minister is able to buy a home and all
Speaker 13: the rest of it. But the prime ministerial job is
Speaker 13: a unique job. That's why at the start of the
Speaker 13: campaign they ask you, how much is a leader of
Speaker 13: milk a loaf of bread if you go to the
Speaker 13: service station and buy forty leaders of petrol. They want
Speaker 13: to know that. People want to know that you have
Speaker 13: your finger on the pulse of what it's like to
Speaker 13: be one of them.
Speaker 3: That's the problem, one hundred percent well said, and I
Speaker 3: haven't heard anyone else make that point, and it's a
Speaker 3: really good one. Now let's have a look at Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: He was at a rally near Philadelphia. It took quite
Speaker 3: a bizarre turn. The former president ended up spending i'm told,
Speaker 3: forty minutes dancing after two audience members had a medical
Speaker 3: episode have a look.
Speaker 4: You'll play ymcre go ahead, Let's go nation laud.
Speaker 3: And then Kamala Harris seemed to comment on this. She posted,
Speaker 3: I hope he's okay on social media. That to me
Speaker 3: looks like a pretty fun rally, though, Keith, I mean
Speaker 3: maybe they were just going through his own Spotify Spotify playlist.
Speaker 9: In terms of the playlist, Sharon, there's only one out
Speaker 9: of two that it'd be on mine.
Speaker 2: It's not my MCI.
Speaker 3: But you know, it's a bit of fun.
Speaker 9: And Trump's obviously confident and he's in character, and at
Speaker 9: these rallies, you know, there's a lot of energy and
Speaker 9: it's good to be upbeat. And I think Kabala Harris,
Speaker 9: the longer this campaign runs, the more.
Speaker 1: Concerned their camp will be.
Speaker 9: I think Trump's starting to get his nose in front.
Speaker 9: But regardless of all of that, it's up to the
Speaker 9: American people and what's wrong with a bit of fun
Speaker 9: in politics?
Speaker 3: Shary, No, exactly. I think more politics should dance on stage.
Speaker 3: I'd be tuning in for sure. But Darren, I think
Speaker 3: you know what Keith says is right. The more that
Speaker 3: people see Kamala Harris, they're concerned that there's not enough
Speaker 3: substance there. Donald Trump's doing multiple interviews every day, She's
Speaker 3: struggling with basic answers, and she hasn't at any point
Speaker 3: faced proper interrogation.
Speaker 13: In the end, as Keith says, the American people will decide.
Speaker 13: I don't think she's done a bad job. I think,
Speaker 13: considering where Biden was that that's the fact that we
Speaker 13: are even talking about a possible Democratic win that Harris
Speaker 13: has done a terrific job. So whether that momentum can
Speaker 13: last to the finish line, I don't know, but I
Speaker 13: think she's resurrected what was an incredibly flagging.
Speaker 3: Campaign, and that is one hundred percent thur. It would
Speaker 3: be very different situation the polls if Joe Biden was
Speaker 3: still there, they would have no hope. Yeah, Darren Barnett
Speaker 3: to Keith Fitt, thank you both very much. Now after
Speaker 3: the break, how Labor is trying to mix First Nations
Speaker 3: approaches to foreign policy, plus China's wanting to Canberra after
Speaker 3: it condemned its wargames in Taiwan. Michael Schubridge will join
Speaker 3: me next. All right, let's bring in now Strategic Analysis
Speaker 3: Australia Director Michael Schubridge. Michael, great to see you again. Look,
Speaker 3: I want to ask you about the front page of
Speaker 3: the Daily Telegraph today. They revealed that the Department of
Speaker 3: Foreign Affairs has hired a firm to touch base with
Speaker 3: indigenous stakeholders in order to devise a strategy that would
Speaker 3: embed First nations approachs to foreign policy. So having first
Speaker 3: nation's indigenous approaches to foreign policy, Michael, how is this relevant?
Speaker 7: Well, Sherry, I think it shows you Foreign Affairs as
Speaker 7: the Department doesn't know, which is why they're no doubt
Speaker 7: paying this company a whole lot of money to try
Speaker 7: and tell them what it means. But the idea of
Speaker 7: embedding First Nations perspectives in the heart of Australian foreign
Speaker 7: policy is a bit nonsensical. Australian foreign policy has to
Speaker 7: be about a national security, our national interests and our values,
Speaker 7: and frankly, First nations issues, while important, are just a
Speaker 7: tiny little subset. So this is a tail wagging the
Speaker 7: dog problem.
Speaker 3: We're also hearing that members of the communist regime in
Speaker 3: China are sending rebukes to Australia after the Albanesi government
Speaker 3: quite rightly condemned China's large scale military exercises around Taiwan.
Speaker 3: Is this more bullying that we're starting to see from China.
Speaker 3: At the slightest pushback from the Albanese government.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, I think it's preventative pushback, so in case mister
Speaker 7: Albanezi thinks he might do something. Now hearing this retired
Speaker 7: colonel from the PLA must have been licensed by the
Speaker 7: Communist Party leadership to speak say things like why would
Speaker 7: Australia threaten China? Why would China threaten Australia. There's no reason,
Speaker 7: but we can now easily reach Australia with our military capabilities. Well,
Speaker 7: that is simply threatening language. That's the kind of behavior
Speaker 7: we're seeing from China, even with this stabilized lovely lobster relationship.
Speaker 3: Look the Iran strikes in Israel, those two hundred ballistic
Speaker 3: missiles that really shook the nation. That was about two
Speaker 3: weeks ago. Now we're still yet to see Israel's retaliation.
Speaker 3: We're expecting it any day in the next week. They've
Speaker 3: had to coordinate with the United States. That Nettaniahu's phone
Speaker 3: call with Joe Biden was just a few hours after
Speaker 3: I met with him in his office. What are you
Speaker 3: expecting to see from these strikes from Israel against Iran.
Speaker 3: Do you think it could be on the nuclear sites
Speaker 3: or the oil sites, or do you think it might
Speaker 3: be a military target?
Speaker 7: Surey, I think it's going to be focused on military targets,
Speaker 7: maybe some of their command and control and some of
Speaker 7: their missile capabilities. I wouldn't be surprised if something like
Speaker 7: that guesthouse where the Hezbola chief was staying in the
Speaker 7: heart of Tehran gets a further dose of medicine, because
Speaker 7: this is about Israel demonstrating Iran is defenseless to Israeli power.
Speaker 3: Well, we did see that those ballistic missiles that came
Speaker 3: in from Tehran were stronger, were more powerful than even
Speaker 3: Israel expected. Do you think that was a bit of
Speaker 3: a wake up call to America as well as to Israel.
Speaker 7: Well, I think you can see the American reaction. Putting
Speaker 7: that additional missile defense system into Israel, which will be
Speaker 7: operated by American troops a pretty extraordinary move. Look, I
Speaker 7: think the Israeli air and missile defense system is the
Speaker 7: best out by far, the best on the planet, but
Speaker 7: even that will have holes and gaps. But Iran is
Speaker 7: completely open compared to Israel.
Speaker 3: Do you think this could spark a next stage of
Speaker 3: the war, because for the past year we've seen Israel
Speaker 3: dealing with the terrorist regime in Hamas and Hasbala. But
Speaker 3: do you think this could yeah, spark a whole new stage.
Speaker 7: It's possible, but I think the Iranian regime already knows
Speaker 7: that Israel overmatches it with military strike capability. If they
Speaker 7: want to learn that lesson in an even bigger, harder way,
Speaker 7: that might be just about to happen. But Iran is
Speaker 7: in no position to fight in all our war with Israel.
Speaker 3: With the US stepping into defend it. And as you say,
Speaker 3: that THAD defense system that America is sending along with
Speaker 3: one hundred American troops on the ground, if nothing else,
Speaker 3: that's a big show of support, not the letter they've sent. However,
Speaker 3: Michael Shubridge, thank you very much for your time, and
Speaker 3: that's it for me. I'll see you tomorrow at eight o'clock.
Speaker 3: But right now, here's my good friend, Paul Murray.