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Speaker 1: Apolge Production.

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Speaker 2: I'm Mickie Fisher and welcome to the Village Crazy Lady.

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Speaker 2: People are talking to me and they are not physically

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Speaker 2: in this room, so just strap in for that. Can't

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Speaker 2: call me crazy, so I said it first. Whoever's trying

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Speaker 2: to come through, whatever messages need to come through, like,

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Speaker 2: just bring it on. Let's do it Crazy Crazy Crazy,

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Speaker 2: The Village Crazy Lady Podcast. Hello, Gordeous Legends, and welcome

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Speaker 2: to another episode of the Village Crazy Lady. We have

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Speaker 2: another Village Crazy Lady in the room with us today

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Speaker 2: and it's beautiful Alicia Ford, who I told you would

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Speaker 2: be on again this time. It's a really kind of

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Speaker 2: a fun episode. It's a topic that you and I

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Speaker 2: fairly passionate about. We are always constantly back and forth

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Speaker 2: to each other talking about, you know, things that are

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Speaker 2: being said in like where my watch just goes question mark,

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Speaker 2: let's breathe like passionate. Maybe you're getting confused, but maybe

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Speaker 2: this will be asked.

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Speaker 3: We'll be like our watches will be like why you

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Speaker 3: guys so stressed, like we are passionate about them. Calm down, No,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna be doing like red flags sort of not

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Speaker 2: Community or anything like that. But I think it's important

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Speaker 2: to talk about things that are important to know, you know,

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Speaker 2: all things to be aware of, things to be conscious of,

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Speaker 2: because for me, I'm always like nothing is more important

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Speaker 2: than your autonomy. Like if anyone's trying to tell you

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Speaker 2: that they have the answers for you, if they're trying

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Speaker 2: to sell you something that's a bazillion fucking dollars and

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Speaker 2: they're like, I will change your life. I'm like red flag,

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Speaker 2: and I mean, there's a list of red flags, so

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Speaker 2: let's go through. Tell me, tell me a red flag.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, red flag selling blueprints, like like this

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Speaker 1: is my five step guide being spiritual?

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, my.

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Speaker 1: Five step guide, two step guide, fifty dollars in two weeks.

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Speaker 2: It's given con artist is what it's I thought we

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: I feel like sometimes so like the spiritual world or

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Speaker 2: like the industry, it's an easy and I can understand

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Speaker 2: why people don't trust a lot of spiritual people also

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Speaker 2: because like another thing, a red flag for me is

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Speaker 2: anything or anyone who takes you away from being human.

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Speaker 2: Like if someone's like ascend, ascension is death, by the way,

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Speaker 2: which is not like we're not here like we're here

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Speaker 2: to be human. That is my I'm always like, literally,

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Speaker 2: the most spiritual thing that we can do is be human,

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Speaker 2: not escape it. What are your thoughts on that?

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Yes, we're here to have the human experience.

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Speaker 1: If anyone red flag, if anyone's like we need to

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Speaker 1: ascend a five D. If someone says five D, it's

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Speaker 1: that's a red flag in itself.

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Speaker 2: Well, like one five D sounds like it should be

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Speaker 2: the name of a porn movie actually, and it should

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Speaker 2: be five d's yeah, and that's.

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Speaker 1: Don't give anyone ideas Mickey.

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Speaker 2: Don't like difference between five D and five DS in

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Speaker 1: You've just opened up a whole new niche of like spiritual.

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Speaker 2: Spiritual okays, fun, Okay, Another red flag?

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Speaker 1: Oh, another red flag or people that that kind of

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Speaker 1: you aren't capable of doing it, Like let me guide you.

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Speaker 1: I will be that person to deliver this this information.

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Speaker 1: I'll bestow it upon you that no, like everybody can

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Speaker 2: Do you know, like this is I'm literally taking my

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Speaker 2: what is so crazy? I know so many guys who

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Speaker 2: genuinely think that they are Jesus reincarnate. And I'm not like,

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Speaker 2: oh my goodness, this is me. I'm I'm I've returned,

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Speaker 2: like genuinely, and these are all like I don't want

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Speaker 1: Do you one?

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Speaker 4: I ask a journey and I'm like, ah, I'm gone

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Speaker 4: now really They're like, oh my god, yeah, and I

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Speaker 2: This turns out it's me, surprise, surprise. I'm like, these

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Speaker 2: you're not all not all of you are. I don't

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Speaker 2: oh my goodness, such a red flag, the reddest I'm

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Speaker 2: like I've literally there was a girl who was like

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Speaker 1: So why are all these guys also like just miraculously

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Speaker 1: breathwork facilitators, But they've never like people who were followed them.

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Speaker 1: They're like, when did that happen?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Literally was that in a download too? And it's

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Speaker 2: like the most like unsafe, non trauma informed space ever

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Speaker 2: where you're like like confronting demons And they're like, anyway,

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Speaker 2: and now we're gonna have an I SPO.

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Speaker 1: Literally you're like, n.

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Speaker 2: Oh, yes, big red flag.

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Speaker 1: Big red flag. Another one would probably be like I

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Speaker 1: don't know, but all of these not that I don't

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Speaker 1: think that people are worthy of charging for high ticket experiences,

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Speaker 1: but people that are charging exorbitant high ticket amounts or

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Speaker 1: like trauma informed on any training the flag experiences like that.

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Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, just five easy payments of eight thousand, what.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, what's going to debt for? And like you're going

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Speaker 2: to make money from this if you if you value yourself,

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Speaker 2: you will value you know, you will value me and

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Speaker 2: the fact that my price point is eight thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: an hour and that's that's what I'm worth. I know

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Speaker 2: that just me too when people are like, well, that's

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Speaker 2: to be honest, I think there are doctors who aren't

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Speaker 1: Or yeah, yeah, or like money is an energy and

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Speaker 1: it's a reflection of your self worth. So if you

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Speaker 2: Yes, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's very common.

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Speaker 2: One thing that like will always piss me off. And

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Speaker 2: I know, I think I've already said that like this

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Speaker 2: about twelve different things, but this is like probably up

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Speaker 2: who think that the Jesus Christ, people who are so

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Speaker 2: unaware of their privilege when they're talking about anything, but

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Speaker 2: especially in I guess like the spiritual community, and often

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Speaker 2: it's just you need to do this. You need to

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Speaker 2: talk to like, and I'm like, say that to a

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Speaker 2: them that they just haven't manifested hard enough. Yeah, like that,

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Speaker 2: And it's like coming from people who are extremely privileged. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: When I first entered the spiritual community would have been

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Speaker 1: about or twelve years ago now. At the time I was,

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Speaker 1: I was a single mom with a very small child

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Speaker 1: I would constantly be in, you know, viewing these people's content.

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Speaker 1: They were like that, and they were like, if you

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Speaker 1: you You obviously aren't worthy enough. You know you think

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Speaker 1: Maybe go and work on how to kind of get

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Speaker 1: I love and I see you do it a lot

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Speaker 2: them to feel like they're like putting themselves in fucking debt,

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Speaker 2: which is a lot. Like you know, there are coaches

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Speaker 1: And these people can also probably be put in the

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Speaker 1: are you know, sorry. But also there are people that

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Speaker 1: that's happening. It's so bad. Oh well, I'm just going

433
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 1: to stick in to my own lane. Just where's the

434
00:24:45,921 --> 00:24:46,521
Speaker 1: aligned action?

435
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,281
Speaker 2: Like what do you like floating above it all?

436
00:24:49,561 --> 00:24:52,241
Speaker 1: It's actually been interesting. I've spoken about this a lot

437
00:24:52,321 --> 00:24:57,801
Speaker 1: in the last few weeks, and one positive and warming

438
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,001
Speaker 1: thing that I've I've had happen is I've had tons

439
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,001
Speaker 1: and tons of people send me messages and say thanks,

440
00:25:06,321 --> 00:25:09,361
Speaker 1: like I actually feel like I do have a right

441
00:25:09,441 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: to speak up or I should be speaking up, Like

442
00:25:11,281 --> 00:25:14,681
Speaker 1: I do feel like you know, I've been called in,

443
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,801
Speaker 1: not called out, but called in to the conversation, and

444
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:22,441
Speaker 1: that it is important what I say during this time. Yeah,

445
00:25:22,481 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: but thank you, am I okay, good? We're making impact.

446
00:25:27,321 --> 00:25:29,921
Speaker 2: Yes, I've noticed the same thing. And it's so interesting

447
00:25:29,961 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: because like obviously we're speaking to like Palestine, and the

448
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 2: fact that like neither you or I have been quiet

449
00:25:35,681 --> 00:25:38,681
Speaker 2: about that at all. And I remember when it first

450
00:25:38,761 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 2: sort of started, and I was quite vocal about it

451
00:25:41,681 --> 00:25:45,161
Speaker 2: and got hammered for it, lost jobs because of it,

452
00:25:45,201 --> 00:25:47,561
Speaker 2: because it was like, you know, I shouldn't be political,

453
00:25:48,201 --> 00:25:50,761
Speaker 2: I shouldn't be any of these things. And the thing

454
00:25:50,801 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 2: with me is like I just I can't not. I

455
00:25:55,241 --> 00:25:57,521
Speaker 2: can't not. You know, if there's people that need me

456
00:25:57,561 --> 00:25:59,841
Speaker 2: to speak up for them, I'm going to. And if

457
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,841
Speaker 2: we have a platform, then I think it's like important

458
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,561
Speaker 2: to use that and I just and I literally had

459
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 2: people say to me, like, you really need to just stop,

460
00:26:08,041 --> 00:26:11,481
Speaker 2: just stick to like doing funny videos and talking about

461
00:26:11,481 --> 00:26:13,641
Speaker 2: your spiritual shit. And I'm like, this is me talking

462
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,801
Speaker 2: about spiritual shit. What do you mean? This is as

463
00:26:15,801 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 2: spiritual as it gets. And then recently and like a

464
00:26:19,681 --> 00:26:21,921
Speaker 2: lot of people have sort of like you know, been

465
00:26:21,961 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 2: doing this this whole time. They've been feeling the backlash

466
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: and the bullying and everything. But to me, that's just

467
00:26:26,961 --> 00:26:29,481
Speaker 2: like doesn't even compare to the people what other people

468
00:26:29,481 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 2: are fucking going through. Like I will take a bit

469
00:26:31,521 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 2: of bullying because absolutely I'm not losing my fucking children

470
00:26:36,041 --> 00:26:38,161
Speaker 2: or my own you know, I'm not in fear every day.

471
00:26:39,521 --> 00:26:43,401
Speaker 2: And then exactly, I'm like how privileged that I get

472
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,761
Speaker 2: to use my voice. But then recently we've just seen

473
00:26:47,801 --> 00:26:50,521
Speaker 2: and like you and I spoke ages ago and I

474
00:26:50,561 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 2: did like a podcast on this at the beginning of

475
00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 2: the year about you know, my fucking predictions for the

476
00:26:53,921 --> 00:26:55,561
Speaker 2: year or whatever, and I said, big, there's going to be

477
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 2: a fall of of celebrity.

478
00:26:59,120 --> 00:26:59,561
Speaker 1: Yeah.

479
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Speaker 2: And I've had so many people message me lately with

480
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 2: this whole like block it there's a block block for

481
00:27:05,481 --> 00:27:07,281
Speaker 2: or whatever, and they're like, oh my god, and I'm

482
00:27:07,281 --> 00:27:09,761
Speaker 2: like yes, And it's so interesting because the people that

483
00:27:09,801 --> 00:27:15,681
Speaker 2: have been like staying really firm to themselves and what

484
00:27:15,761 --> 00:27:19,321
Speaker 2: they believe and being allowed for others. It's like it's

485
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: just so interesting to see where that showed up. And

486
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,601
Speaker 2: we're really starting to see it's like people actually are

487
00:27:24,681 --> 00:27:28,281
Speaker 2: caring more about what people care about as opposed to

488
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: like what they're wearing, how they're showing up. You know.

489
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, there's going to be there's going to be

490
00:27:35,681 --> 00:27:39,401
Speaker 1: like a footprint or I guess a signature if well

491
00:27:40,041 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: of this time, of this this moment in time, and

492
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,321
Speaker 1: in years to come, people will look back and they

493
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:52,561
Speaker 1: will be like, oh jeez, that person was really quite wow,

494
00:27:53,321 --> 00:27:57,921
Speaker 1: not were they, And it's it's crazy because it is

495
00:27:58,041 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 1: one of the first times in our history from you know,

496
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,041
Speaker 1: from how long, how long we've been here on earth,

497
00:28:05,241 --> 00:28:08,281
Speaker 1: that we've had an opportunity to really carve out, you know,

498
00:28:08,521 --> 00:28:12,081
Speaker 1: our legacy that we leave that our family will look

499
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:14,641
Speaker 1: back on and go oh yeah, like mum was real

500
00:28:14,721 --> 00:28:17,801
Speaker 1: loud during that time. And it's funny because we do

501
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 1: look back and we hear about our ancestors who have

502
00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: done the same, who have like burn their bras or

503
00:28:22,921 --> 00:28:25,681
Speaker 1: like dumb marches, and really, you know, got in there,

504
00:28:25,761 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 1: and it's exciting in a way. And I think that

505
00:28:28,681 --> 00:28:32,761
Speaker 1: this really brings hope to this moment in time as well,

506
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,321
Speaker 1: in such a in what feels like such a dark time.

507
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,481
Speaker 1: What brings hope is that we are in the age

508
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Speaker 1: of Aquarius. Aquarius is the pioneer, and we have you

509
00:28:45,801 --> 00:28:49,801
Speaker 1: and I and millions of others who are stepping forward

510
00:28:49,841 --> 00:28:53,161
Speaker 1: and choosing to take on the role of the pioneer

511
00:28:53,481 --> 00:28:57,481
Speaker 1: and carving out that path forward. And you know, this

512
00:28:57,561 --> 00:29:00,681
Speaker 1: doesn't stop now that legacy lives on and what we

513
00:29:00,761 --> 00:29:03,761
Speaker 1: do now counts, and more and more people are doing this,

514
00:29:03,841 --> 00:29:06,841
Speaker 1: and it's that the I guess the silver lining of

515
00:29:07,161 --> 00:29:09,361
Speaker 1: what's happening moment is we're seeing so many people come

516
00:29:09,401 --> 00:29:13,561
Speaker 1: into their power and their own voice and really standing

517
00:29:13,641 --> 00:29:17,401
Speaker 1: up and supporting more than just their family unit that's

518
00:29:17,401 --> 00:29:19,881
Speaker 1: in front of them, but people from across the world,

519
00:29:20,001 --> 00:29:22,601
Speaker 1: and it's bringing in this sense of like for the

520
00:29:22,681 --> 00:29:26,881
Speaker 1: first time in a lot of people's lives, they're realizing

521
00:29:26,961 --> 00:29:32,521
Speaker 1: what it actually means to be like connected collectively. It's

522
00:29:32,561 --> 00:29:37,361
Speaker 1: the first time that people have acknowledged this that it

523
00:29:37,561 --> 00:29:39,121
Speaker 1: end the importance of this too.

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00:29:39,721 --> 00:29:42,441
Speaker 2: Yes, one hundred percent, and just even that con because

525
00:29:42,441 --> 00:29:44,201
Speaker 2: I say it all the time. We're kind of we're

526
00:29:44,241 --> 00:29:48,001
Speaker 2: just fragments of one another. And I love how like

527
00:29:48,281 --> 00:29:51,841
Speaker 2: social media has done such a brilliant job of really

528
00:29:53,561 --> 00:29:57,201
Speaker 2: connecting us faster and in a way where you can

529
00:29:57,241 --> 00:29:59,601
Speaker 2: really see that because you can see something happening to

530
00:29:59,641 --> 00:30:01,561
Speaker 2: someone you've never met before, and you can feel it

531
00:30:01,601 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: in your body and it's almost like, well, that's as

532
00:30:04,481 --> 00:30:06,721
Speaker 2: much my child as my child is, that's as much

533
00:30:06,761 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: my family. That's like and it really is that just

534
00:30:09,081 --> 00:30:13,721
Speaker 2: like humanity, which, as you said, we're really coming back

535
00:30:13,761 --> 00:30:16,481
Speaker 2: to that just humanness, but in a really evolved way,

536
00:30:17,081 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: in a like we're not running from tigers anymore. And

537
00:30:21,001 --> 00:30:25,881
Speaker 2: that's okay, thank you, like thank you to whoever just

538
00:30:26,001 --> 00:30:31,521
Speaker 2: dropped in. Then that really that's where like that privilege

539
00:30:31,561 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: is really important. And I always say, like, if you

540
00:30:33,321 --> 00:30:35,721
Speaker 2: have privilege and you're not using it, what are you doing?

541
00:30:36,321 --> 00:30:39,361
Speaker 2: Because like those of us who are in a position

542
00:30:39,401 --> 00:30:41,961
Speaker 2: of privilege, we're the ones who aren't running from a tiger,

543
00:30:42,401 --> 00:30:44,361
Speaker 2: or if we feel like we are, we have the

544
00:30:44,881 --> 00:30:47,561
Speaker 2: it's easier for us to find resources to help us

545
00:30:47,601 --> 00:30:50,801
Speaker 2: get out of that survival state and we're not having

546
00:30:50,881 --> 00:30:53,081
Speaker 2: like we're able to do a lot more because we're

547
00:30:53,121 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: not in constant survival and so we can really be

548
00:30:57,881 --> 00:31:00,961
Speaker 2: so helpful and we can use that privilege to help

549
00:31:01,001 --> 00:31:01,961
Speaker 2: so many others.

550
00:31:02,641 --> 00:31:05,201
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can shout from the trees for the people

551
00:31:05,321 --> 00:31:09,121
Speaker 1: that can't be here with us, up up on this

552
00:31:09,241 --> 00:31:12,401
Speaker 1: privileged ladder. Unfortunately, it's disgusting, but it is what it is.

553
00:31:12,441 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: And if it's the least that we can do, then

554
00:31:15,761 --> 00:31:20,001
Speaker 1: it's something. And yeah, it's it's going to be a

555
00:31:20,081 --> 00:31:22,801
Speaker 1: very interesting time for decades to come.

556
00:31:23,121 --> 00:31:25,081
Speaker 2: I love the Age of Aquarius. I'm so this is

557
00:31:25,121 --> 00:31:28,441
Speaker 2: like I mean, as an aquarian, I'm like so gorgeous

558
00:31:28,481 --> 00:31:33,641
Speaker 2: this is so cumpy making sense. I'm like, why does

559
00:31:33,681 --> 00:31:36,881
Speaker 2: not everyone like have this like fucking burning passion for

560
00:31:37,001 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 2: humanity like that?

561
00:31:39,361 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: Yep, I feel you. I'm an aquarian moon like, yeah, okay,

562
00:31:44,321 --> 00:31:47,281
Speaker 1: why doesn't anyone care around? I hope?

563
00:31:47,601 --> 00:31:49,561
Speaker 2: Do you know what that's that's the most.

564
00:31:49,401 --> 00:31:52,081
Speaker 1: One in my family who has said anything. Oh really,

565
00:31:52,521 --> 00:31:56,841
Speaker 1: I'm like, why hello, knock? Am I a different galaxy?

566
00:31:57,361 --> 00:31:59,561
Speaker 2: I've got quite a few aquarians in my family, and

567
00:31:59,601 --> 00:32:03,921
Speaker 2: we're all similarly activated. Yeah, I mean in our own

568
00:32:03,961 --> 00:32:05,881
Speaker 2: different ways, but yeah, we are the ones who will

569
00:32:05,921 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: be like, excuse me, fucking what? Like who's oppressed? Who

570
00:32:09,281 --> 00:32:10,681
Speaker 2: can I help? Like? What are we doing?

571
00:32:10,921 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: Like where do we jo an era? And that's so incredible?

572
00:32:14,921 --> 00:32:18,121
Speaker 2: I know. Actually there was one thing when I'm I

573
00:32:18,161 --> 00:32:21,561
Speaker 2: hosted a march for domestic violence a few weeks ago,

574
00:32:21,881 --> 00:32:24,161
Speaker 2: which was really cool and superpowerful. There were like four

575
00:32:24,201 --> 00:32:26,841
Speaker 2: thousand people there. But the thing that was the most

576
00:32:26,881 --> 00:32:28,601
Speaker 2: powerful to me, and this is what when you were

577
00:32:28,601 --> 00:32:30,721
Speaker 2: talking about the legacy that we lead and how we're

578
00:32:30,761 --> 00:32:33,241
Speaker 2: like inspiring you know, our children and how they're going

579
00:32:33,281 --> 00:32:37,001
Speaker 2: to be looking at us. My eldest daughter was there

580
00:32:37,161 --> 00:32:38,881
Speaker 2: and she f started she said it was the best

581
00:32:38,921 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: day of her life. She just like the atmosphere just

582
00:32:42,241 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 2: they're coming together, the the community of people wanting to

583
00:32:47,001 --> 00:32:49,561
Speaker 2: make change. I think as a child seeing that is

584
00:32:49,641 --> 00:32:54,561
Speaker 2: so powerful because that's their world that we're creating. So

585
00:32:54,681 --> 00:32:56,921
Speaker 2: I think even from just such an energetic level that

586
00:32:57,001 --> 00:32:59,601
Speaker 2: to them they feel cared for, which I think is

587
00:32:59,641 --> 00:33:03,481
Speaker 2: what this active like activism and you know that feminine.

588
00:33:03,921 --> 00:33:06,041
Speaker 2: Like to me, I always say, like, the feminine isn't soft.

589
00:33:06,081 --> 00:33:08,761
Speaker 2: The feminine cares and to care. Sometimes you need to

590
00:33:08,761 --> 00:33:11,081
Speaker 2: be loud, you need to speak up. It's not just

591
00:33:11,081 --> 00:33:14,321
Speaker 2: about like, you know, fucking gently stroking everyone's head and

592
00:33:14,361 --> 00:33:17,001
Speaker 2: like making sour though, Like it's like getting out there

593
00:33:17,201 --> 00:33:20,721
Speaker 2: and being like I'm here to caret But she said

594
00:33:20,721 --> 00:33:23,681
Speaker 2: to me so many times a sentence she's never said

595
00:33:23,681 --> 00:33:24,881
Speaker 2: to me in her life. She's seven years old, and

596
00:33:24,961 --> 00:33:27,641
Speaker 2: she kept saying, Mom, I am so proud of you.

597
00:33:28,201 --> 00:33:30,921
Speaker 2: And I was like, you know what, nothing is more

598
00:33:30,961 --> 00:33:34,121
Speaker 2: important than that, Like that is the coolest, coolest thing.

599
00:33:34,361 --> 00:33:35,281
Speaker 2: That's a green flag.

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00:33:35,321 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: I think that is an absolute green flag. Being aware

601
00:33:39,081 --> 00:33:41,801
Speaker 1: of the legacy that you're leaving to your children, but

602
00:33:41,881 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: beyond that, like just the generation you know, there is

603
00:33:45,241 --> 00:33:48,841
Speaker 1: going to come to take our place. It's important. We're

604
00:33:48,881 --> 00:33:51,681
Speaker 1: going to be learning about these kinds of movements and

605
00:33:51,721 --> 00:33:55,801
Speaker 1: these people. We aren't, but they will totally and their

606
00:33:55,881 --> 00:33:59,881
Speaker 1: kids will, so it's yeah, it's no doubt. And you

607
00:33:59,881 --> 00:34:02,081
Speaker 1: know that they will learn about your Your daughter will

608
00:34:02,081 --> 00:34:03,961
Speaker 1: look back and go hey my mom did that. Yeah

609
00:34:05,201 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: about this at school and out, hey, hey my mom

610
00:34:08,081 --> 00:34:08,361
Speaker 1: did that.

611
00:34:10,761 --> 00:34:12,121
Speaker 2: So do it for the Do it for your kids,

612
00:34:12,201 --> 00:34:17,441
Speaker 2: or you're not kids, you whoever humanity exactly, do it

613
00:34:17,481 --> 00:34:20,361
Speaker 2: for humanity. Yes, well, I really love that game. I

614
00:34:20,361 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: mean it was supposed to be red flag, green flag,

615
00:34:22,001 --> 00:34:25,641
Speaker 2: but it was mostly like red flag, red flag, red flag, red.

616
00:34:25,441 --> 00:34:29,281
Speaker 1: Flag, red flag, and then like a really really beautiful

617
00:34:29,361 --> 00:34:32,401
Speaker 1: keynote speech at the end by both of.

618
00:34:32,361 --> 00:34:34,561
Speaker 2: Us, real like there was a ted talk at the end.

619
00:34:37,921 --> 00:34:43,401
Speaker 2: It was a summon. I hope everyone feels inspired. I

620
00:34:43,401 --> 00:34:45,801
Speaker 2: hope they were like, whoa, that was like a whiplash.

621
00:34:45,841 --> 00:34:49,721
Speaker 2: That was That was a real journey, Alisha. I love

622
00:34:49,961 --> 00:34:53,201
Speaker 2: so much chatting to you. I love your heart, I

623
00:34:53,241 --> 00:34:57,881
Speaker 2: love your humanity. I love your balance of spirituality and

624
00:34:58,001 --> 00:35:00,601
Speaker 2: science and everything that you do and everything that you are.

625
00:35:00,721 --> 00:35:03,201
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on the podcast and

626
00:35:04,161 --> 00:35:07,041
Speaker 2: talking to me and from our end it's been a

627
00:35:07,081 --> 00:35:09,641
Speaker 2: technological roller coaster as well. So the fact that, and

628
00:35:09,681 --> 00:35:11,841
Speaker 2: as my producers always say, this only fucking happens to you.

629
00:35:11,921 --> 00:35:14,761
Speaker 2: It's the ghosts. But thank you so much. I'll put

630
00:35:15,121 --> 00:35:19,201
Speaker 2: your website, Lisha's instagram, everything in the show notes. Make

631
00:35:19,201 --> 00:35:22,361
Speaker 2: sure you follow her one hundred out of ten recommend

632
00:35:22,401 --> 00:35:25,281
Speaker 2: But thank you so much queen having me.

633
00:35:25,681 --> 00:35:27,161
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on this roller coaster.

634
00:35:29,041 --> 00:35:29,681
Speaker 2: Never get up.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Bye bye,