1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: You can listen to the Front on your smart speaker 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: every morning to hear the latest episode. Just say play 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: the news from the Australian. From the Australian, here's what's 4 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: on the Front. I'm Claire Harvey. It's Thursday August one. 5 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: A convicted child sex offender has been spared deportation under 6 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: Australia's new visa rules, in what looms as the first 7 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: test for new Immigration Minister Tony Burke. 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Passengers are already grieving 17 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: for Rex, the airline that's gone into administration amid board 18 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: chaos and financial losses. The Albanezi government is under pressure 19 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: to bailout or take an equity stake in Rex, but 20 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: it's warning there will be strings attached today, how Rex 21 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: flew into the storm and whether taxpayers should come to 22 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: the rescue. Friday afternoon in the Australians newsrooms is tense. 23 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: We've got a giant paper to publish, the Weekend Australian, 24 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: and an always hungry website and app where we need 25 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: to be breaking big news all the time. Joanni Bishan 26 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: edits our business call them Margin Call, which is a 27 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: must read for anyone in industry or government. It's a 28 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: mix of entertaining gossip about powerful people and also hardcore 29 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: news which regularly breaks in the column. On Friday, he 30 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: got a call tipping him into a potentially massive scoop. 31 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: It was quite early on Friday afternoon, and I received 32 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: a call, as one usually does in this industry, with 33 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: some information that at first quite alarmed me. The information 34 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: was that Rex was in serious financial straits, that consultants 35 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: were getting under hood of the airline so to speak, 36 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: and even more concerningly, that it was possibly heading into 37 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: financial ruin such that administrators were about to be appointed. 38 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: Now my reaction to that was, well, I don't think 39 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 2: that's true. I think it's possible that they brought in consultants. 40 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: A lot of companies do that. But the idea that Rex, 41 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: which was operating flights at that time, had planes in 42 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 2: the sky at that very moment, would be going into 43 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: administration with a matter of days or a matter of weeks, 44 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: it sounded fanciful. In the end, I made a decision 45 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: to write the story, but took a very cautious approach 46 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: to mentioning the A word. I did end up using it, 47 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: but Eve and I was quite skeptical whether we'd end 48 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: up actually going down that route. And three days later, 49 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: on Monday, the company entered a trading halt, and here 50 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: we are, they're in administrations. 51 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: After March of Aki. Rex is Australia's third airline after 52 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: Quantus and Virgin It flies a bunch of regional routes 53 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: like Perth to Monkey Mayer where tourists can swim with dolphins, 54 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: Brisbane to Thaga, Minda, Cairns to Dumagy, Sydney to Narandra. 55 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 1: Our reporter Lillie McCaffrey has been speaking to Rex passengers. 56 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: I'm really sorry to hear this happened to Rex. 57 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 3: They're a fabulous little local airline. 58 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 4: We rely on them a lot, and I'm really sorry 59 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 4: for all the stuff too. 60 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: It's such a shame. It's just really sad. 61 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 4: I really hope that the government or get behind them 62 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 4: and support them to get them back up and running. 63 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 4: I mean, Australia is regional, so we need support in 64 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,119 Speaker 4: that area. You know, they have supported quantas in the past. 65 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 4: Everybody knows about that. 66 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 3: I just hope that for the guys that you know 67 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 3: work for X, they're able to find like we're able 68 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 3: to save for REX, and that you know they'se guys 69 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: are able to get work or still have work. 70 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,239 Speaker 2: There's genuine sadness in the community. I think it almost 71 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: is a piece of critical infrastructure or an essential service 72 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: for people living in the regions. But I've noticed from 73 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: the commentary, on the stories I've written and on talkback 74 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 2: as well, people don't want to see this airline go under. 75 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: Neither as the Prime Minister anyone in government. The last 76 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 2: time I flew REX, I went from Sydney to Adelaide 77 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: and back. It was quaint, it was fun, it wasn't 78 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 2: a packed flight, which is always pleasant, food was good, 79 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: and I remember thinking this was actually a really puzz experience. 80 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: I should really fly the airline more. It was also 81 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: cheaper than the mainstream airlines at flight Adelaide. So yeah, 82 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: it's quite sad news that this has happened. I don't 83 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: think anyone wanted this. 84 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: Funnily enough, REX arose out of another airline crisis in 85 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: two thousand and one and SET collapsed. The federal government 86 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: made a multimillion dollar cash bailout of anset's regional subsidiaries, 87 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: and a group of Australian and Singaporean investors got together 88 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: to buy them and start a new airline. They called 89 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: it Regional Express REX. So YOI, it seems like REX 90 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: is really teetering on the brink. They've grounded flights between 91 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: the major cities, and those flights seemed to be part 92 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: of Rex's problem, don't they. 93 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it looks like rex's problem wasn't so much 94 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 2: the regional side of its business. That side of the 95 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 2: business was traveling quite well back during COVID during the pandemic. 96 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 2: At the start of twenty twenty one, REX basically got 97 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty million dollars from an outfit called 98 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 2: Pacification Group. 99 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 3: It's an investment firm. 100 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: They use that money to buy seven three seven planes 101 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: from Virgin and their idea was they were going to 102 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,239 Speaker 2: launch this expansion into the capital city market or what's 103 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 2: commonly known in aviation circles as the Golden Triangle. That's 104 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: the prized busiest routes between Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane. 105 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: Australia's friendliest and most reliably airlied now brings you to 106 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 3: Sydney three times a day fly Rex. They keep fares low. 107 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 3: REX our heart is in the country. 108 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 2: Sounded like a great idea at the time. It hasn't 109 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: quite gone to plan. They've been up against Quantus, Virgin, Jetstar. 110 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 2: Their market share hasn't hit the double digits. The losses 111 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 2: have been severe, something in the order of a million 112 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: dollars per week on that route, the Golden Triangle route. 113 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: And I guess we all sort of knew that Rex 114 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: wasn't doing that well. Its results have always told that story. 115 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 2: What we didn't know was that there had been consultants 116 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 2: who had been brought in over the past couple of months, 117 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: and that was done by Pacification Group, that's the company 118 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: that invested the money with rexbec in twenty twenty one, 119 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: the hope, of course, was to try and figure out 120 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: how to separate the two sides of the business or 121 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: stanch the outflows of the money on those capital city routes. 122 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 3: Hasn't worked. What's interesting about it is that no one 123 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 3: saw this coming. 124 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: So there's one issue, which is that it entered a 125 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: very competitive market in that Golden triangle that you described. 126 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: But there's also been board kind of wrangling going on 127 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: at Rex. What does that boiled down to? That conflict? 128 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: So the corporate regulator ASSIK began asking questions of Rex 129 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: about certain potential conflicts of interest that arose with a 130 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: certain board member. The sum of it was that the 131 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: executive chairman, a guy who had been leading the company 132 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: for twenty one years, he was basically hot swapped for 133 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: the deputy chairman, John Sharp. He's a former Transport minister 134 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: and the Howard government. And again this came absolutely out 135 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: of the blue. So you suddenly had this long standing 136 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: executive chairman, he's turfed out. In comes the deputy chairman, 137 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: and within about a week or so the guy had 138 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: been turfed out. He lobbed a requisition with the market 139 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: basically saying well, I want four of these directors gone, 140 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: I want two of my guys put on the board instead. 141 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: So you've had this boardroom bus stuff for reasons which 142 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: weren't really made clear to the market. 143 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 3: Now this has happened. 144 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: Basically, you've had a combination of a governance problem happening 145 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: at the top. You've had a financial issue happening at 146 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: the bottom with this Capital City triangle expansion. And whether 147 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 2: the two are related, I mean that would seem plausible, 148 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: but certainly the airliners hit troubled straights. 149 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: Now the Transport Workers Union wants the government to take 150 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: a financial stake in REX. So it's this real sort 151 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: of fundamental question about what we want from aviation. You know, 152 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: do we consider it basically public transport it's something that 153 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: we expect the government to ensure gets delivered. Or do 154 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: we regard it as something that private companies can offer 155 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: if they want to. How do you think we sort 156 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: of navigate our way through those questions? 157 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 3: Well, we always do navigate these questions, don't we. 158 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 2: I Mean, the question comes up perpetually government ownership and 159 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 2: equity stake nationalized, not to nationalized. We've got the Transport 160 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 2: Workers Union now calling for the government to take an equity. 161 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: Stake in REX. What does that give you? 162 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: In the words of National Secretary Michael Kine, it gives 163 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: government a seat at the table. To me, that really 164 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 2: sounds more like it's an umbilical cort a lifeline. 165 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 3: You know, it's too big to fail. 166 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: If you've got government sitting at the table, there's always 167 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: an opportunity for recovery. I think the tw would say that, 168 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: then you have propositions of a government run airline altogether, 169 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: one that's managed as an essential service for the country. 170 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 3: Not the worst idea in the world. 171 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: It seems like a lot of people who are commenting 172 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: on this story would like to see that. The counter 173 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: argument to it that hasn't changed. You know, you have 174 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: a nationalized airline. It's costly, it can be in a fiction, 175 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: it can be sluggish with innovation. An equity stake might 176 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 2: be the halfway point. 177 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: Coming up after the break, Virgin has offered to fly 178 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: REX passengers for free. Nice or opportunistic. Our subscribers were 179 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: the first to know about this story, and a subscription 180 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: is a lot cheaper than a freezing cold sandwich on 181 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,359 Speaker 1: a flight these days. Check us out at the Australian 182 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: dot com dot au. You only ninety four percent of 183 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: air travel in Australia is on either Quantus or Virgin. 184 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: Let's just talk about Quantus for a moment. It's an 185 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: extraordinarily powerful company in the Australian market, isn't it. 186 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean every MP upon entering Parliament is 187 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 2: given Quantus chairman's lounge access. Virgin has their own version 188 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: of that, and they provide a similar service to politicians 189 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: entering Parliament too. It's that classic execution of soft power. 190 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 2: Politicians declare their membership with these clubs within about five 191 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: minutes of walking into Parliament. Some might say it's pretty 192 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 2: hard to turn down overtures from an airline on any issue. 193 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: When they're comping. MP is a plush seat and glass 194 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: of pinot at Camber Airport whenever they travel. They'll quietly 195 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: get the ear of every politician this way. Others might 196 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: say it's a really savvy way of doing it. It's 197 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: perfectly legal. But of course this is the way the 198 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: airlines have been doing it for years. It's worked very effectively. 199 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: And now, as for Virgin, the other competitor, who also 200 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: plays things pretty hard, they are offering to fly any 201 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: Rex passenger who's been stranded for free, and they're also 202 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: putting it out there that if REX employees want a job, 203 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: they should come and ask for one at Virgin. What's 204 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: going on there? 205 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 3: The question is why are they doing it? 206 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 2: Well? On its face, it certainly looks like it's altruistic. 207 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 2: It's possibly the right thing to do. Who knows, maybe 208 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 2: the government got in their ear as well. We don't 209 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: see quantas doing it just yet, maybe they will in 210 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: the near future. On the other hand, it's partly tactical. 211 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: Presumably more people using the Virgin airline might discover that 212 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: they actually like it and they want to keep using it. 213 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 2: Offers have also been made to REX staff potentially if 214 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: they need assistance. You can see how Quantus, Jetstar and 215 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: or Virgin might try and move into this space for 216 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 2: their own tactic advantage given what's happening to REX. But 217 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 2: at the moment it's the right thing to do, certainly 218 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: helping out Australians. I don't see how anyone loses out 219 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 2: of it. 220 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: Quantus and Virgin might argue that this is already a 221 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: very competitive sector. They compete hard with one another. REX 222 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: is a third airline. We've seen other third airlines come 223 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: and go. Would Australians really lose out if REX word 224 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: to go into liquidation, Well. 225 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 3: I think they would. 226 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: I mean, reducing competition in a competitive market is never 227 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 2: a particularly good thing for prices, which is what Australians 228 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: care about. But I think more importantly, REX services destinations 229 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: that the others don't. 230 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 3: And if people in. 231 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: Regional Australia need to get where they need to go, 232 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 2: while people in the cities want to venture into the 233 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: regions for all sorts of economic and touristic. 234 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 3: Purposes, it will just be harder for them to do it. 235 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 3: That's not good for anyone. 236 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: Joanni Bishan's margin call column has the scoops and the skull, 237 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: but check it out right now by joining ours subscribers 238 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: at the Australian dot com dot au