1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: From the newsroom a news still come to Gooday there, 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: I'm Andrew Buckalo. 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: A few days ago, our good friends at The Australian 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: published a great list of the highest paid presenters on TV. 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: It was so interesting. Channel nine star Karl Stefanovic topped 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: the list. He apparently gets two point eight million dollars 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 2: every year. 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: Good on your car loss. 9 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: Now, over the past few days, the news dot com 10 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: dot a U entertainment team has been working hard to 11 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 2: collate a similar list, but this time of. 12 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: The best paid radio stars. 13 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 2: We'll tell you who we think is earning what in 14 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: this episode, and I guarantee you will be shocked. We're 15 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: also going to hear from a radio insider who says 16 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 2: that the salary is way too high and that they're 17 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: actually killing the radio industry. News dot com dot I 18 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: USE Entertainment editor Nick Bond is here to help me 19 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: run through these massive radio salaries. Now, I do want 20 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: to stress at the top that these are not confirmed. 21 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: This is information that we've gathered from online, from financial 22 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: reports from industry sources, but as you can imagine, verifying 23 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: this information is very very hard. We also don't know 24 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: if these salaries take into account ratings bonuses, which some 25 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: hosts get written into their contracts, So best to take 26 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: these with a small grain of salt. 27 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: I think that protects me legally. Nick. 28 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: Let's start with some salaries. You're going to tell us 29 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: which stars are reportedly earning one million dollars a year. 30 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: Yes, that's right, Bucky in the seven figure club? Is 31 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 3: it seven figures? I've never had to actually count that. Hey, 32 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 3: I don't know. Let's go with seven figures. Well, firstly, 33 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 3: it's Tim Blackwell, who hosts nova's National Drive Show alongside 34 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 3: Joel Creasy and Ricky Lee. 35 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, Blackers, as he's known on air, an absolutely legend 36 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: of the industry. 37 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 3: Another one rumored to be earning at least a miller 38 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 3: year is Kate Richie, who co hosts Fitzi and Whippers 39 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: Breakfast show on NOVA Sydney. And obviously she's been off 40 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 3: air for a few months now due to personal issues. 41 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really hope that she gets back on air 42 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: soon because she is such a talent. 43 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: And also on one million Jace Hawkins and Lauren Phillips, 44 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 3: who hosts the Nova Breakfast Show in Melbourne, and Chrissy 45 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: Swan who hosts the National Afternoon show on Nova. 46 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's move up in the world. 47 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: These are some radio stars who are allegibly earning between 48 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: one to one point five million, Starting with Carrie Bigmore 49 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: and Tommy Little who co hosts the National Drive Show 50 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: on the Hit network. 51 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: We love them. 52 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: Mick malloy, a legendary comedian. He co hosts the Triple 53 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: and Breakfast Show in Melbourne. He's allegibly earning between one 54 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: to one point five Brendan Jones also he is Jonesy 55 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: on air. He hosts Jonesy and Amanda on Gold FM 56 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: in Sydney. Nick, let's take it even higher. 57 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 3: Okay, keep going. I feel like I'm on the prices right. 58 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 3: These are the stars rumors to be paid between two 59 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: to two point five million dollars a year. 60 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: Big money. 61 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 3: We got Fiefe Box who co hosts the Fox of 62 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: M Breakfast show in Melbourne. Lovely Amanda Keller who co 63 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: hosts Jonesy and Amanda on Gold EFFM in Sydney. 64 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: Great to see a couple of high profile women there. 65 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: And both Fitzi and Whipper not women who host Nova's 66 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 3: breakfast show in Sydney. 67 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: Alright, now we are getting onto the top. 68 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: Three earners from the radio industry in Australia, starting with 69 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: Christian O'Connell. He was a big radio star in the 70 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: UK before he moved to Australia in twenty eighteen, where 71 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 2: he hosts the Christian O'Connell Breakfast Show on Gold FM 72 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: in Melbourne. He's rumored to be getting paid between four 73 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: to five million dollars every year. Not surprising, like he's 74 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: topping the ratings in Melbourne on FM radio, but that 75 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: is big cash and. 76 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: Taking out the top spot drummer ll. 77 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: Playse that was low production. Who could have been not 78 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: very surprising. Kyle and Jackie O, who signed a ten 79 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: year deal in twenty twenty three worth two hundred million dollars, 80 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 2: meaning they get paid ten million dollars each per year, 81 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: although Kyle said on a last year that they actually 82 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: get paid a little bit more than that. 83 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: Would you like to know your salary? 84 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 4: Not really? 85 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: Thank you much? 86 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 5: I know what you think. 87 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: What are they It's a ten year contract for two 88 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: hundred million. 89 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah's pretty accurate. Actually, I mean that's actually 90 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 5: I don't mean to be Jackie. You are going to 91 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 5: take great offense to this. It's actually underreported. 92 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 4: What else I have to do radio. 93 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: I can't live with the lot we have to I 94 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: just I wanted you go, well. 95 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 5: It's actually about another fifty million each. I'm just saying 96 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 5: it is. 97 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, let's just cut. 98 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 5: Through the bullshit and we get that because we're good 99 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 5: at it. 100 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: I'm joined on the line now by Irene Hume, a 101 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: former radio executive who now co hosts the podcast Game Changers. 102 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: Melbourne Radio War was a blood I love that podcast. Gooday, Irene, 103 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: Hello Bucky. You've written a. 104 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 2: Fantastic piece online about how these huge radio salaries that 105 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: we just heard are killing the radio industry. Firstly, are 106 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: these massive paychecks for talent in Australia are relatively new phenomenon? 107 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: Or of big star has been getting paid big bucks 108 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: for years now. 109 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 6: Oh look, they've been getting paid staggering as long as 110 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 6: I remember, and that's been you know, that's been a 111 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 6: very long time. 112 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 4: So that is not a new phenomenon. 113 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 6: But what is and where I guess my point came 114 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 6: from initially was that the landscape has changed. 115 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 4: So ten fifteen years ago. 116 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 6: So when we were only watching radio and free tow 117 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 6: Are TV, for instance, they were huge stars, huge starts, 118 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 6: so you could justify the high salaries at that point, 119 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 6: But now they don't have the cachet that they once had, 120 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 6: and what we're seeing, you know, in terms of radio 121 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 6: and legacy media generally, is that that they're losing a 122 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 6: diminishing share of voice, so they don't have the impact 123 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 6: the same impact that they once did in terms of ratings, 124 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 6: in terms of revenue, in terms of star power, but 125 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 6: yet the salaries haven't changed one bit, and in some cases, 126 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 6: as you would know, in terms of new contracts, these 127 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 6: salaries are increasing, and so there's a misalignment between what 128 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 6: the radio presenters getting paid in the current climate and 129 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 6: what we're seeing in terms of the impact on the 130 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 6: industry right now, and the fact that it's going through 131 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 6: an evolution, and it's going through a really critical time 132 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 6: and the only way it looks like it's going to 133 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 6: survive is by gutting the networks and losing a lot 134 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 6: of great people, and it's an industry that's self imploding. 135 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: These huge salaries are having a huge impact on the industry, 136 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: aren't they. We're seeing all kinds of changes that have 137 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: to happen in companies to justify them. 138 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think that's the bit that kills me. 139 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 6: We're seeing so many great people losing jobs on air presenters. 140 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 6: You know Mitch Suri who left a few months ago, 141 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 6: and only this week we heard about Zach and Dom 142 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 6: who moved into Mitch's shift doing kiss nights in January, 143 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 6: and we're let go this week. And again it sort 144 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 6: of comes back to we're killing our own industry, like 145 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 6: it doesn't make any sense. So they've put all of 146 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,559 Speaker 6: their investment into this one basket and they're not seeing 147 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 6: the revenue upside to justify those salaries. 148 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 4: Now, it's just heartbreaking. 149 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 6: Now we've seen some really great talented people lose jobs, 150 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 6: and that's the bit that kills me. 151 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, all the big radio companies have had quite a 152 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: few redundancies over the last couple of years. The other 153 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: big thing is the issue of new talent, because the 154 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: same people that are on radio now seem to be 155 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: the same stars that have been on air for about 156 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: ten years. To keep these radio stars on air, that's 157 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: why the networks seem to be paying them big bucks, 158 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: but it means we can't focus on the new talent 159 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: coming through, like the meach juries who is the NATIONALSFM 160 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: so there's no breeding ground for new talent, Isn't that right? 161 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 6: There's no bread and ground for new talent and radio. 162 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 6: And the other thing that I find really challenging to 163 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 6: digest is it's the younger talent that are working their 164 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 6: butts off, and they're the ones that we need in 165 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 6: the industry. They're really hungry, they love innovation, and instead 166 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 6: we've got And don't get me wrong, the heritage talent 167 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 6: that we have on radio at the moment are very talented, 168 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 6: always have been and always will be, and they're exceptional talent. 169 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 6: But we need younger talent to really bring that energy 170 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 6: and that passion the industry. 171 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 4: That's who we need in there now. 172 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: So if radio is to survive, what needs to happen 173 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: from your point of view. 174 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 6: So I think that the radio industry just needs to 175 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 6: complete overhaul, would be my view, in terms of who 176 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 6: we look at from a creative perspective, and also not networking. 177 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 6: I get it economically, but I don't know whether that's 178 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 6: going to work. So I'd love the idea of going 179 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 6: back to local radio and having more talent, but again 180 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 6: that might be a really ignorant thing to say. I 181 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 6: think as much as it's not a popular move. I 182 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 6: think consolidation makes sense purely from an economic perspective. If 183 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 6: three networks are going to be struggling to make the 184 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 6: revenue that they need to, then I think the only 185 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 6: thing that makes sense is to unfortunately consolidate. But from 186 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 6: a content perspective, you know, local talent, local dayparts, lots 187 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 6: of new fresh sounding content, creators, multimedia and not just 188 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 6: audio video. 189 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 4: But I don't think that's any of that's going to happen. 190 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the problem because that will cost money, right 191 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 2: and the most is being sucked up by these big 192 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: name talent. 193 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: That is the problem. 194 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 4: That's right. 195 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: Well, you know, we'll have to wait and see what 196 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: does happen. 197 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: I want you to stick around if you can, Irene, 198 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: because in just a moment, I want to discuss some 199 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: of the big rumors in the radio industry and you 200 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: tell me if you think they're likely. 201 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: Okay, you're willing to. 202 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 4: Do that, Sure, that's fun. 203 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: Back in a sec. Welcome back. 204 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: I'm chatting to Irene Hume, host of the Game Changers 205 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: Melbourne Radio Wars podcast. 206 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: Irene, there's a lot of whispers. 207 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: In the industry at the moment about shows getting a 208 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 2: shake up next year. 209 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: I want to put some of the rumors to you 210 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: and you can let me know how likely they are. 211 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 4: Okay, yes, please. 212 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 2: So we know that KISSFMS Kylon are already broadcasting into 213 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: Melbourne and Sydney during breakfast time, Rumors that they'll be 214 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: broadcasting to other capital cities next year. 215 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: How likely do you think that is? 216 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 4: I think Brisbane is definitely on the cards, and. 217 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 6: Saying that based on what we've read between the lines 218 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 6: I guess and heard from the talent themselves in Brisbane. 219 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 6: I think they've admitted that they're aware of changes looming. 220 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 6: So I think the current thinking is the plan is 221 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 6: to go in to Brisbane at some point, whether it's 222 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 6: next year or the year after. 223 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 2: Well, it'd be interesting to see if they can capture 224 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: the Brisbane market. Obviously they haven't done as well in 225 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: Melbourne as they expected, but we'll wait and see. 226 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: Another big room. 227 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: Mark Christian O'Connell, he's the King of FM radio in Melbourne. 228 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: He hosts the Breakfast Show on Gold FM. 229 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: Down There. 230 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 2: Rumors that he will be broadcast into Sydney next year 231 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: as well on Gold FM, replacing Jonesy and Amanda. 232 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: What do you reckon. 233 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 6: Look, I think that is a yes. My fellow co 234 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 6: host Craig Bruce thinks otherwise. So he thinks that there 235 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 6: won't be any networking for Christian inter Sydney next year 236 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 6: and it's likely to be a totally new plan. 237 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: Okay. 238 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 2: Another big whisper is that Fitzi and Whipper, who Nova 239 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 2: listeners know and love. They host the Breakfast show on 240 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: Nova in Sydney. Rumors that that Breakfast Show will wrap 241 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: up at the end of the year. 242 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: What do you think. 243 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 6: Wow, that's a big one. I'm going to say yes. 244 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 6: I'm going to say yes, and I think it's going 245 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 6: to be mutual parting. They have done that show for 246 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 6: such a long time and I think they probably feel like, 247 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 6: you know what, we've done as much as we can, 248 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 6: and you know, we're ready to make that next move. 249 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,599 Speaker 6: I don't think that they are leaving the network. I 250 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 6: don't think they absolutely would not leave the network. I 251 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 6: think Nova Entertainment would keep them in whatever form. I 252 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 6: think they agree that looks like whether it's a different 253 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 6: day part or whether it's podcasting or something new. But yeah, 254 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 6: I think that makes sense. I think it's time for that. 255 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 2: This is where Another part of the rumor comes in 256 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: whispers that fits in Whipper will be moved to national 257 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: afternoon show, the Drive Show on Nova with Tim Blackwell 258 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: and possibly Ricky Lee to give up the afternoon show 259 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 2: and move into Sydney Breakfast. 260 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 4: Yep, yep, yep. I think that's absolutely going to happen. 261 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 4: I know Tim. 262 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 6: Tim has been keen for Nova Breakfast for a long 263 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 6: time and he is incredible. He's amazing. He absolutely deserves 264 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 6: it and he will do a great job. And obviously 265 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 6: the Nova audience know him and they know Ricky and 266 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 6: that's a dynamic that's worked really well for them in Drive. 267 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 4: That would make perfect sense. 268 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 2: Well, we will have to wait and see if we 269 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 2: are accurate here Irene. Everyone though, I encouraged to listen 270 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: to the Game Changes Melbourne Radio war Was podcast. It's 271 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 2: where you can stay up to date with the latest 272 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: news and analysis from radio. 273 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for jumping on the from the 274 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: news room. 275 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 4: Podcast Pleasure Bucky Talk too Soon. 276 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: Fun fact about me, I used to work radio. I 277 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: was an FM radio producer for about seven years and 278 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: I thought I'd end this episode by sharing some behind 279 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: the scenes secrets. Firstly, you know how people call into 280 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: breakfast shows and share their crazy stories. Well, quite often 281 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: we would set up those calls a day in advance, 282 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: so we'd have a list of all the great callers 283 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 2: who listen to our show, and we'd ring them in 284 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 2: the afternoon and say, hey, tomorrow morning at about seven 285 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 2: ten am, we were thinking of doing a phone on 286 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: this topic. Have you got a story that fits and 287 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: if so, could we get you on air tomorrow morning. 288 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: The reason we would do that is because there's nothing 289 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 2: worse than when you put a phone topic out there 290 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 2: and no one calls through. How embarrassing another secret. Radio 291 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 2: stations do a lot of giveaways, right, and whenever there's 292 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: a prize on offer, you often see the same people 293 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: calling through each. 294 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: Day trying to win. 295 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: Now, radio stations don't want their prizes to be won 296 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: by the same people over and over and over again, 297 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: So what we would do is we'd save those people's 298 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 2: phone numbers in our phone system and label them. 299 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: As prize pigs. 300 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 2: So basically, when we do a competition, we'd see all 301 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: the phone lines pop up, and if you see the 302 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: word prize pig, you never answer it because you don't 303 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: want them to win the prize. There go a couple 304 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: of my radio secrets. I hope I was allowed to tell. 305 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: They might don't work for them anymore. They can't sue me, 306 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 2: can they. Anyway? Thanks for listening, Have a great weekend. 307 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: I'll chat to you next week. 308 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: Follow us, subscribe to from the Newsroom, wherever you get 309 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: your podcasts.