Speaker 1: From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 2: Thank you guys, Happy Sunday. We're going to have another
Speaker 2: big week here on Paul Murray Live. Lots to get to,
Speaker 2: including we expect a newspoll to not be good news
Speaker 2: for the Prime Minister. We'll get to that in a
Speaker 2: moment or two time. Also, surprise, surprise if you preference
Speaker 2: one nation. Apparently you sidle up with racists according to
Speaker 2: Giggles Miles. But what about if you send preferences to
Speaker 2: the Greens. And our mate Cherry Markson is about to
Speaker 2: do a week of shows from Israel.
Speaker 1: She will join us during this our life from there.
Speaker 2: All right, before I get the protests everything else. We
Speaker 2: know the cost of living major issue, but it is
Speaker 2: amazing the types of people who end up in a
Speaker 2: financial situation where they would do the unthinkable. Now it's
Speaker 2: not just about what you have to buy each and
Speaker 2: every week when it comes to your groceries or anything
Speaker 2: else at the shops. But of course, as we know,
Speaker 2: a dozen different interest rate rises under this particular government.
Speaker 2: So I must say I am shocked, disappointed, deflated maybe
Speaker 2: the best word to use when a recipient of the
Speaker 2: Victoria Cross. Daniel Kerrigan, no, not of the Castle family fame,
Speaker 2: but of course a decorator Australian soldier is now going
Speaker 2: to be selling his medals, including the Victoria Cross. He's
Speaker 2: not doing it to raise money for charity. He is
Speaker 2: doing it to help pay his own bills. Sorry, was
Speaker 2: interesting there to read today that he is planning to
Speaker 2: do so. He expects or the auction house, who is
Speaker 2: the bloke you just saw, expects the medals to go
Speaker 2: for one point two five million dollars now, the VC
Speaker 2: recipient said in a statement and via the story that
Speaker 2: you've just seen about his family, it's a blended family
Speaker 2: and where a family of five, me and my partner,
Speaker 2: who has a thirteen year old daughter and a nine
Speaker 2: year old boy from a previous relationship. My boy who's
Speaker 2: aged seven from his ex wife, is a blended family
Speaker 2: story than many many millions of people around the country.
Speaker 2: It hasn't been a decision made lightly. My partner and
Speaker 2: I had a discussion. There's a few family members whose
Speaker 2: health wasn't amazing. My mum is eighty this year. I
Speaker 2: was fortunate that he earns a pretty good wage, but
Speaker 2: things are pretty tough out there now. He's not saying
Speaker 2: it's the cost of living, but it's just the overall
Speaker 2: need for money. He managed to buy her a place.
Speaker 2: The reason for getting rid of the medals, and that's
Speaker 2: a disappointing turn of phrase, but they're his, so he
Speaker 2: says to getting rid of the medals is to look
Speaker 2: after his own family. It would afford the opportunity for
Speaker 2: schooling or for a place for us to live as
Speaker 2: a family as well. Times are tough, things are hard,
Speaker 2: especially for a family of five, As others out there
Speaker 2: could well relate. Now, I can't predict exactly what's going
Speaker 2: to happen here, but many times when honors of this
Speaker 2: significance end up going onto an auction block, most likely
Speaker 2: the person who will purchase them will either be the
Speaker 2: Australian Woman Memorial or somebody who will donate them to
Speaker 2: the War Memorial. There is part of me, though, that
Speaker 2: would suggest that if there is somebody out there who,
Speaker 2: for whatever reason would be able to lend them back
Speaker 2: or give them back to the recipient of the metal,
Speaker 2: that would be the better response. But can you believe
Speaker 2: that's where we've got, That's where we are. We're to
Speaker 2: pay for modern life in Australia, the recipient of the
Speaker 2: highest military honor of this country and in fact anyone
Speaker 2: in the Commonwealth can bestow, and that is the Victoria
Speaker 2: Cross is now selling it to help pay for his future.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable.
Speaker 2: So let's get the protests now, the process that took
Speaker 2: place today now, as always on this issue, at any time,
Speaker 2: as soon as you sort of start to lean one
Speaker 2: way or the other, then whoever's left over starts screaming
Speaker 2: at you. Now, the people who protested today, they are
Speaker 2: clearly doing so on the lead up to October the seventh,
Speaker 2: formerly which is going to be tomorrow. Their justification for
Speaker 2: the protest is to say what has happened since October
Speaker 2: the seventh and how Israel has tried to go after
Speaker 2: Hamas and resulted in basically two thirds of Gaza being leveled,
Speaker 2: seventy percent of the population having to move from where
Speaker 2: they previously moved. Is the reason why they were protesting today.
Speaker 2: Now in a country about free speech. And while I
Speaker 2: have had very clear issues with this protest taking place,
Speaker 2: if that is the reason that you turned up at
Speaker 2: a protest today, well I can't fault you doing so.
Speaker 2: I may disagree with you on certain areas, certain language,
Speaker 2: and certainly the definition of the conflict. But the people
Speaker 2: that we obviously have to talk about are the one
Speaker 2: who the ones who decided.
Speaker 1: To wave the colors today of Hezbollah.
Speaker 2: Now as things have moved in recent weeks from what's
Speaker 2: been happening in and around Gaza, in and around Palestine,
Speaker 2: we now start to see people in Sydney, Melbourne and
Speaker 2: Brisbane waving flags where ironically the colours of green and
Speaker 2: gold or green and yellow are actually the colors of Hesbela.
Speaker 2: But if somebody was actually waving a Hesbla flag, well
Speaker 2: that would get them into a world of trouble because
Speaker 2: Hesbla is a prescribed terrorist group. So the way around
Speaker 2: it was to have something similar but not exactly the same. However,
Speaker 2: the message is absolutely clear about whom they are marching for,
Speaker 2: as I say, not the people who are responding to
Speaker 2: the past twelve months and making references back to their
Speaker 2: family or their homelands. Again it's complicated, but the people
Speaker 2: who are deliberately trying to basically deliver a giant fu
Speaker 2: to all of the authorities as a way of trying
Speaker 2: to offer support to a prescribed terror organization should frighten
Speaker 2: us all. Not because these people are potential terrorists, but
Speaker 2: because it shows just how far Australia has fallen. Now
Speaker 2: everyone in this country is from somewhere else. Now it
Speaker 2: may be you personally being born somewhere else, parents, grandparents,
Speaker 2: great grandparents, or let's all go back to the first fleet.
Speaker 2: But the problem in Australia is that we're not having
Speaker 2: people who are dual citizens, but we are having people
Speaker 2: who are, for one of a.
Speaker 1: Better term, dual nationals.
Speaker 2: Where if you were asked are you an Australian, the
Speaker 2: answer would be no, I may insert other country Australian.
Speaker 2: This in and of itself creates a problem. Now no
Speaker 2: law can be passed to change it, but it's a
Speaker 2: sign about how we have dealt with millions of people
Speaker 2: coming to Australia from lots of different parts of the world. Now,
Speaker 2: in previous generations, the assumption has been, in fact, the
Speaker 2: stated position of people who have come to the country
Speaker 2: is how good is this? I was able to win
Speaker 2: the lottery of life and get to the greatest place
Speaker 2: in the world, meaning that, yes, while technically I've got
Speaker 2: some historic connections to this, that and the other, the
Speaker 2: reality is that I'm.
Speaker 1: In Australian first.
Speaker 2: One of the rules of being an Australian, written or unwritten,
Speaker 2: is that we don't want the divisions that have existed
Speaker 2: for hundreds or thousands of years in other parts of
Speaker 2: the world to poison the future of this country, a
Speaker 2: country that has unlimited opportunity and an unlimited capacity to
Speaker 2: work together. The reality of immigration is that we don't
Speaker 2: care from whence you come. We don't care of what
Speaker 2: God you believe or don't believe in. But when you
Speaker 2: get here, the Australian law supersedes all forms of faith.
Speaker 2: It's why we have the reactions that we do, and
Speaker 2: rightly so, and it's why when the law is ever
Speaker 2: actually applied, things like forced marriages not acceptable in Australia.
Speaker 2: The valuing of one gender or sex over the other
Speaker 2: is not acceptable.
Speaker 1: In Australia. People are allowed to be in same sex marriages.
Speaker 1: They are allowed as adults to be able to change
Speaker 1: their gender if they wish. Again, we can agree or
Speaker 1: disagree with these things, but the reality is that these are.
Speaker 2: The fundamentals of Australia. That we respect people for their
Speaker 2: life choices, we respect people for what they believe, but
Speaker 2: when people come forward and yes, currently a minority, and
Speaker 2: decide to take to the streets of Australia and waiving
Speaker 2: some smart ass way of supporting a listed terrorist group,
Speaker 2: then we are failing as a nation. Now, you can't
Speaker 2: start randomly arresting people because something that they are clearly
Speaker 2: saying is obvious by what they are waving, but technically
Speaker 2: what they are waving.
Speaker 1: Is not illegal. You can't do that.
Speaker 2: We have seen a process where police have previously tried
Speaker 2: to turn around and in New Souf well say this
Speaker 2: protests okay on this day. This protest isn't okay on
Speaker 2: that day. But in this case they decided to agree
Speaker 2: with each other and find a way for the protest
Speaker 2: to take place. Now, I argued that this protest should
Speaker 2: not take place because of the obvious provocative nature of it,
Speaker 2: and I'm pleased to say that some organizers did their best,
Speaker 2: apparently to get rid of people who were overtly prohest
Speaker 2: Bala or the people who were holding up the signs
Speaker 2: or the face rather of the former boss of that
Speaker 2: terrorist organization. We're also in a bad place because while
Speaker 2: the premiere of New South Wales represents the extreme like
Speaker 2: ninety five percent majority of Australians, regardless of where they
Speaker 2: were born and where their parents were born, which is
Speaker 2: to say that one of the values of Australia is
Speaker 2: that you don't provoke your fellow Australian. You don't rub
Speaker 2: metaphorically the face of your fellow Australian in the tragedies
Speaker 2: that their community is facing, be it for what has
Speaker 2: happened here or what may be happening on the other
Speaker 2: side of the world. Which is why it is so
Speaker 2: provocative that things happen in and around October seventh. But
Speaker 2: where have we got as a community that people who
Speaker 2: have come to the country or the children that they
Speaker 2: have had, want to continue the rage of where they
Speaker 2: came from. Now, this again cannot be undone. You cannot
Speaker 2: randomly start to boot people out of the country who
Speaker 2: were born in the country. The idea that people's response
Speaker 2: to being told, hey, this would be the wrong thing
Speaker 2: to do right now is to come up with the
Speaker 2: creative way of delivering the middle finger, not just to
Speaker 2: the police who didn't want them to march, but to
Speaker 2: the government that represents the rest of the citizenry. Put simply,
Speaker 2: what I believe means I can do whatever I want,
Speaker 2: whenever I want. That's a concern, not because I want
Speaker 2: to limit people's free speech, but I want to make
Speaker 2: sure that the actions of one group of people does
Speaker 2: not antagonize another group of people. Now, again, we'll see
Speaker 2: what happens in the next twenty four hours, when the
Speaker 2: actual date on our phone is October seventh. The claim
Speaker 2: is that there will be nothing but peaceful vigils. We'll
Speaker 2: find out. But if one person in the next twenty
Speaker 2: four hours decides to fly flag that is a very
Speaker 2: clear message about supporting a prescribed terrorist organization, then it
Speaker 2: is on the organizers of those events to make sure
Speaker 2: that those people are told you are not welcome here.
Speaker 2: But as you can see in the footage, they largely were.
Speaker 2: They weren't rejected, they weren't told to go away. Instead,
Speaker 2: there would have been much laughing and goufforing that we
Speaker 2: got one over the authorities, the authorities who of course
Speaker 2: are there to represent the peace, tranquility and cohesion that
Speaker 2: is our country. One person was arrested because they decided
Speaker 2: to manipulate the Israeli flag and they put a swastik
Speaker 2: on it. The displaying of a swastika in any shape
Speaker 2: or form and whatever color is of course a crime
Speaker 2: in the place like New South Wales. Maximum fine eleven
Speaker 2: thousand dollars, maximum time in jail is one year.
Speaker 1: I'll make a.
Speaker 2: Bet that person will receive either some of the things
Speaker 2: that were said on the stage again, get ready, this
Speaker 2: is what was being said today.
Speaker 3: Our fight for equality, our fight to be seen as
Speaker 3: human like.
Speaker 4: Every single person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's being racistly scapegoaded right now. Our continued protests
Speaker 3: for the last two hundred years against this colonial oppressive
Speaker 3: regime that is also complicit in the genocide in Palestine.
Speaker 2: Now, of course Lydia Thorpe Tuesday is the reason to
Speaker 2: say exactly what she has said. But let's set our
Speaker 2: attention to the past twenty four hours and what has
Speaker 2: been happening in and around Lebanon. Now, Lebanon hits differently
Speaker 2: in the Australian context because there's half a million Australians
Speaker 2: who are in Lebanon right now, meaning that when we
Speaker 2: start to see the bombs that are falling right now
Speaker 2: an attempt to try to break Hezbalah, well, they may
Speaker 2: well end up having an effect on potentially an Australian population. Now, yes,
Speaker 2: they have been Australians affected by GARSA. Again, you see
Speaker 2: how this works. Got to be careful, got to make
Speaker 2: sure as you tread your way through this verbal scenario
Speaker 2: that you have to deliver a level of nuance. That
Speaker 2: level of nuance is exploited by people who turn around
Speaker 2: and wave the flags that they did, but they won't
Speaker 2: stop me being nuanced about this situation. Now, amazingly, the
Speaker 2: French president has made a decision which I find despicable.
Speaker 2: It is one to suggest that basically it's time to
Speaker 2: choke Israel of any weapons it is using to either
Speaker 2: defend itself when places like Iran the major state sponsor
Speaker 2: and financier of the terrorism in the region of the
Speaker 2: Middle East, or what is happening to the north or
Speaker 2: the south of the country as they try to go
Speaker 2: after these said terrorist organizations. But as for the Australians,
Speaker 2: there was one thing that I wanted to finish on here.
Speaker 2: That is a ray of hope and it is a
Speaker 2: ray of hope for those that are Australians that have
Speaker 2: now been rescued from Lebanon. It has been easier to
Speaker 2: rescue people from Lebanon because of the placing of airports
Speaker 2: and the ease or relative ease at which people are
Speaker 2: able to get to an airport as opposed to the
Speaker 2: situation in Gaza. But again, nu onance doesn't leave anyone
Speaker 2: happy here. So I just wanted to before I move
Speaker 2: on to everything else, show you something that should fill
Speaker 2: your heart with a smile, which is your fellow Australians
Speaker 2: who are thankful that because they are Australians, Australia came
Speaker 2: and got them, that Australia found a way to take
Speaker 2: care of them. And while many of them say they
Speaker 2: will never return to the country of which they were born,
Speaker 2: their parents were born, or their family is connected to,
Speaker 2: they look forward to returning to this country because it
Speaker 2: is safer, because it is more harmonious, because it values
Speaker 2: people of different beliefs from different countries, who all share
Speaker 2: the common goal of ensure that the perfection in which
Speaker 2: millions of people are enjoying a long weekend is exactly
Speaker 2: as reliable this year as it will be next year
Speaker 2: and the year after and twenty five years down the track.
Speaker 1: Say tank, you's true that they help with us.
Speaker 5: That's a very big thank you for them what they
Speaker 5: did for.
Speaker 1: Us terrible times.
Speaker 2: But a nice moment for those people who are returning
Speaker 2: now to a Queensland.
Speaker 1: Just twenty days left until Queenslanders have.
Speaker 2: The opportunity to get rid of Giggles Miles and his
Speaker 2: idiot labor mates.
Speaker 1: Fingers crossed. May this be the case now?
Speaker 2: I should tell you by the way, we've got a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of special shows that we're planning in and
Speaker 2: around this election that we'll be doing from the man
Speaker 2: Cave and of course from Queensland as well.
Speaker 1: Looking forward to talking to as many people as possible.
Speaker 2: Between now and then, and yes, I will be part
Speaker 2: of the election night coverage in a few saturdays time.
Speaker 2: David Kruse fully playing soccer doing the I'm an active
Speaker 2: future premier thing for Steven Miles. He too was out
Speaker 2: and about today, but he was trying to use his
Speaker 2: microphone to try to raise the specter that because the
Speaker 2: LNP is going to preference one nation and one nation
Speaker 2: is going to preference the LNP because they would like
Speaker 2: to change the government. Oh that apparently it's the embracing
Speaker 2: of racists. Now every single election, this is what he said,
Speaker 2: that every single time there is a preference steel done
Speaker 2: with one nation and somehow we are taking the country backwards.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: The Greens are the biggest threat to Australian democracy as
Speaker 2: we know it, social cohesion as we know it, and
Speaker 2: they would put Queensland in a much, much worse place.
Speaker 1: Than anything else that is on the ballot.
Speaker 2: But as we know, Labour can't even get its own
Speaker 2: members up unless they have the preferences from the Greens.
Speaker 2: And for some reason, every single election, be it state
Speaker 2: or federal, the media allows the Labor leader to pretend
Speaker 2: that their preference steel can okay, but anyone else's preference steel.
Speaker 1: Well, it's this.
Speaker 6: It has long been our practice to put the right
Speaker 6: wing racist party One Nation last, and I intend to
Speaker 6: be highlighting to all of our multicultural communities how David
Speaker 6: Chris Furley is embracing the right wing racist party one nation.
Speaker 6: We've been putting one nation last for twenty five odd years.
Speaker 6: There have been times when there were LMP leaders who
Speaker 6: were principled enough to do the same thing. The current
Speaker 6: LMP leader clearly is not want a disgrace.
Speaker 2: We'll talk to James Ashby, who of course is the
Speaker 2: chief of staff to Paul and Hansen, and he's running
Speaker 2: in this election. You can vote for him in and
Speaker 2: around the area of Yupoon in the seat of Keppel
Speaker 2: will talk to him in a couple of minutes time. Meantime,
Speaker 2: Corey Marle decided to go and talk to a collection
Speaker 2: of voters in the premiers electorate. Now must expect him
Speaker 2: to be able to hold onto the seat. However, this
Speaker 2: is a bit of an idea about what it's really
Speaker 2: like in the real world, as opposed to this bloke's.
Speaker 1: Preening and pushing around.
Speaker 2: A cafe owner who declined to be named, is a
Speaker 2: little more blunt about the situation. This is a local
Speaker 2: cafe owner in the Premier's electorate. When I opened two
Speaker 2: and a half years ago, our twenty staff.
Speaker 1: Now I have eight.
Speaker 2: Look, he said, pointing at the docket on his cash register,
Speaker 2: I have served just three customers today. It's tough to
Speaker 2: do business right now in Queensland, in part because of
Speaker 2: a government that is not hard enough on crime, that
Speaker 2: in part finds new ways to introduce taxes, and then
Speaker 2: of course when they get that money, they spend it
Speaker 2: on gimmicks to get themselves re elected. While the health
Speaker 2: system goes backwards, while the police system goes backwards. Remember,
Speaker 2: under Labor when you call Triple O, the ambulance may
Speaker 2: or may not turn up. If the ambulance does turn up,
Speaker 2: it is virtually assured that you will be sitting in
Speaker 2: that ambulance because there's no room in the hospital. If
Speaker 2: you're in regional Queensland, the person who drives the ambulance
Speaker 2: may be the only person who was actually qualified to
Speaker 2: take care of the person in the back of the ambulance.
Speaker 2: And as I've told you stories from the front line
Speaker 2: in regional Queensland, under the Labor Party, a member of
Speaker 2: the public drives the ambulance while the ambo takes care
Speaker 2: of the person in the back before they eventually turn
Speaker 2: up at a hospital that may not have the equipment
Speaker 2: to keep them safe. Extraordinary. Now, the camerabubble, as we know,
Speaker 2: is many things to many people, but to me, it's
Speaker 2: a protection racket for people who always want things to
Speaker 2: go a certain way, and that is always of the left.
Speaker 2: These secretly are people who would vote Green, but certainly
Speaker 2: the only prime minister that they would accept of a
Speaker 2: major party is the Labor Party.
Speaker 1: No breaking news to you there. You're watching this show
Speaker 1: and you've.
Speaker 2: Lived a long enough life to know how this works,
Speaker 2: and I want to show you an example of how
Speaker 2: the media always finds some way to bail Albow out,
Speaker 2: regardless of how bad he actually is. Now, of course,
Speaker 2: last week the Prime Minister desperately tried to change the
Speaker 2: conversation that the entire problem with inflation has nothing to
Speaker 2: do with it government and all of the different issues
Speaker 2: that go into the basket of goods of inflation. As
Speaker 2: I've explained in great detail, that these things are often
Speaker 2: more than just what is sold at your local supermarket.
Speaker 2: But he thinks that because the average Australian says yeh
Speaker 2: and so distracted by things like football, that.
Speaker 1: He can pretend that it's the supermarket itself.
Speaker 2: At every dollar that you spent in a supermarket is
Speaker 2: for the profit of the supermarket, not, as I explained before,
Speaker 2: paying the wages that may well be going up, paying
Speaker 2: the power bill that may be going and it has
Speaker 2: been going way up, or the cost of the goods
Speaker 2: that they need to buy it from the suppliers, which
Speaker 2: again have all of those things caught up in it.
Speaker 1: But the reality of last week was that there was.
Speaker 2: A national conversation about social cohesion. There was a national
Speaker 2: conversation about just how far we had fallen when people
Speaker 2: who may well have been born and most likely born
Speaker 2: in this country were waving around the flags of the
Speaker 2: terrorist organization has blah. Now, the Prime Minister may well
Speaker 2: have wanted to talk about shrink flation, but the events
Speaker 2: of the week, well they were completely nowhere near what
Speaker 2: he wanted to talk about. So surprise, surprise, what about
Speaker 2: this at the Sydney Morning Herald today from one of
Speaker 2: their canber reporters who in this case was moonlighting as
Speaker 2: an opinion person. Labor had hippocket agenda about chipscenarios, Dutton
Speaker 2: and war cut in. You see, if the Prime Minister
Speaker 2: was allowed just to do what he wants to do,
Speaker 2: we would all fall in love with him trying to
Speaker 2: fix all.
Speaker 1: Of our problems.
Speaker 2: But it says evil buggers in the Middle East and
Speaker 2: that evil bugger from Brisbane that deny him that opportunity.
Speaker 2: As the world moves towards the first anniversary of October,
Speaker 2: the seventh mass attacks and the Middle East spiral towards
Speaker 2: greater conflict this week, Federal Labor tried desperately to keep
Speaker 2: the focus on domestic issues. It knows that voters cared
Speaker 2: deeply about the high cost of living, and I had
Speaker 2: the perfect symbols was proof allegedly overpriced oreos and a
Speaker 2: half empty chip packets. Now again, as I told you here,
Speaker 2: I'm not pretending sure inflation doesn't exist where you pay
Speaker 2: the same for less, but that's not a decision made
Speaker 2: by the supermarket. It's a decision made by the people
Speaker 2: who make the thing in the packet, who keeps selling
Speaker 2: it to the supermarket for the same amount of money
Speaker 2: as they used to when there was more stuff in
Speaker 2: the packet. I don't defend the supermarkets for no particular reason.
Speaker 1: They're not.
Speaker 2: Doing backhanders, or sponsoring the shi or anything else that
Speaker 2: would pay for a bit of cash for comment here
Speaker 2: not the case. Certainly, I wouldn't be available to be
Speaker 2: brought anyway. But you get my point. I am not
Speaker 2: carrying anyone else's water. But for any mysterious reason. It's
Speaker 2: just things are complicated, and as soon as you start
Speaker 2: to talk about nu once, as soon as you start
Speaker 2: to argue the gray, or you start to have a
Speaker 2: look at the gradients of the gray, well then you're
Speaker 2: not as good as a prime minister who just wants
Speaker 2: to say packet of oreos is the reason why everything
Speaker 2: costs what it costs keeps going. But the year long
Speaker 2: conflict in Gaza expanding out to Lebanon and Labour's hope
Speaker 2: of a ceasefire taking the heat out of the issue
Speaker 2: that Australia withered. Pun Me opposition leader put it up
Speaker 2: at the instead manage to force the Prime Minister to
Speaker 2: take what he framed as a morals values test.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a crazy idea.
Speaker 2: That Last week the conversation, While the Prime Minister wanted
Speaker 2: to blame supermarkets and the stuff that's sold in the supermarkets,
Speaker 2: the reality of the test for the Prime Minister was
Speaker 2: what is acceptable? Is it okay for people on a
Speaker 2: straight in streets to support not people who are the
Speaker 2: innocent victims of this, that and the other, but instead
Speaker 2: the perpetrators of violence like Hezbollah.
Speaker 1: One more little thing here from this bloke.
Speaker 2: If Labor hardheads thought they could win the week by
Speaker 2: sticking to voter's top concerns of cost of living and
Speaker 2: speaking as little as possible about the conflict, they were wrong.
Speaker 2: Labor has a case to mart to make on when
Speaker 2: a question starts Kerosene, which aligns with the ASO pleadings
Speaker 2: to turn down the talk, but is support for Israela's
Speaker 2: sincere and don't a signaled. He believes any risks are
Speaker 2: outweighed by the benefits of tarnishing a first term MP.
Speaker 2: You see, their calculation is the people say things because
Speaker 2: there's an electoral consequence to what they say.
Speaker 1: No, that would be albow.
Speaker 2: Remember when things were at their worst in the cost
Speaker 2: of living crisis last year, he was spending half a
Speaker 2: billion dollars four hundred and fifty million dollars to be
Speaker 2: exact on a voice referendum, which, of course we were no.
Speaker 2: Started at sixty forty and ended up sixty forty.
Speaker 1: The other way. That's the point.
Speaker 2: Oh no, But it's Peter Dutton who's finally trying to
Speaker 2: fiddle with your mind as opposed to you being a
Speaker 2: person who may able to have been born here or
Speaker 2: has come here or multiple generations from every single spot
Speaker 2: on the globe, and what it means to be here,
Speaker 2: to be born here and to take care of our
Speaker 2: fellow citizens here.
Speaker 1: I don't know that was just a political distraction.
Speaker 2: As for Seapak and the Conservative Political Action Committee, the
Speaker 2: Australian version of which has been playing out over the
Speaker 2: past couple of days here. The most high profile speaker
Speaker 2: liz was Liz trust the former UK Prime minister. Yes,
Speaker 2: that prime minister who actually has got a really interesting
Speaker 2: message but sort of gets a little bit well undermined
Speaker 2: by the fact she, of course was a prime minister
Speaker 2: for what but thirty days. Anyway, she says the countries
Speaker 2: like Australia should turn things like our ABC their BBC
Speaker 2: into a subscription service because they don't deserve government funding
Speaker 2: anymore because they have moved so far to the left
Speaker 2: that they do everything to undermine the said government or
Speaker 2: more importantly country of the day.
Speaker 5: It is not possible to deliver US Conservatives, so we
Speaker 5: need to be prepared to dismantle the left wing bureaucracy.
Speaker 7: We need to be.
Speaker 1: Prepared to defund state media.
Speaker 5: Now I don't know rich is worth a BBC or ABC,
Speaker 5: but I've been on both of them in that base
Speaker 5: pretty bad thankfully.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 2: Back here in Australia, the Absolute Unity ticket which was
Speaker 2: being delivered by National Senators Bridget McKenzie and by Matt Cannabian,
Speaker 2: so they were pushing hard against the censorship bill that
Speaker 2: is being pushed by the government here is Senator McKenzie
Speaker 2: talking about Labour's planned to censor the Internet.
Speaker 8: We're voting down this very appalling bad bill and we're
Speaker 8: proud to do so. We hope it doesn't get up
Speaker 8: with the support of the Greens, but it will be
Speaker 8: something we'll be getting rid of in a coalition government
Speaker 8: underal Repowment Well, I would be yes, absolutely, we have
Speaker 8: to do everything we can. But that's why you need
Speaker 8: to vote coalition in the Senate too.
Speaker 7: And there are lots of problems with the government's proposed
Speaker 7: misinformation laws, but its greatest sin is that it is
Speaker 7: simply un Australian. Is UnAustralian to self appoint a bureaucratic
Speaker 7: class of tall poppies who get to decide for the
Speaker 7: rest of us what is right or wrong, what is
Speaker 7: true or false, is acceptable or unacceptable bloody oth.
Speaker 2: We have been on this fight for more than a year.
Speaker 2: We will continue to be right up until the day
Speaker 2: that this bill is gone. Now to the United States,
Speaker 2: it is one month to go until the presidential election.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump went back to the place where somebody wanted
Speaker 2: to kill him, where he was hit by a bullet
Speaker 2: in Butler in Pennsylvania. There was a mega crowd there,
Speaker 2: perhaps the biggest crowd that we have seen, certainly of
Speaker 2: this election, and I would argue maybe of the last
Speaker 2: election as well. Definitely tens of thousands of people. The
Speaker 2: claim was that it was up to one hundred thousand. Unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Remember this was the place where he was shot and
Speaker 2: as of course he may well have been bleeding out
Speaker 2: and dying. He decided not to hide but say, fight, fight, fight.
Speaker 2: It's one of the reasons I admire the man. I
Speaker 2: hope he wins in a month from now. This is
Speaker 2: how he started the speech. As I was saying, the
Speaker 2: star attraction though was not the president. He was well
Speaker 2: slightly upstaged by the man who makes the cars the
Speaker 2: lefties used to love, the man who, through starlink means
Speaker 2: many people are watching us right now in regional Australia
Speaker 2: on Internet.
Speaker 1: That's the best it's ever been.
Speaker 2: The man who is vital to the recovery effort of
Speaker 2: what's happening when it comes to the storms, none other
Speaker 2: than Elon Musk, free speech warrior and boss of Twitter.
Speaker 9: Now X, there's no true test to encourage under fire.
Speaker 9: We had one president who couldn't claimb a flight of
Speaker 9: stairs and another who was fist pumping after getting shot.
Speaker 9: The other side wants to take away your freedom of speech.
Speaker 9: They want to take away your right to bear arms.
Speaker 9: That it's we're They want to take away your right
Speaker 9: to vote effectively.
Speaker 2: Now, as for Kamala Harris, well, she's great when the
Speaker 2: teleprompter doesn't work.
Speaker 10: And did Josey Magic Johnson.
Speaker 1: Remember number thirty two? Today? We got thirty two days.
Speaker 10: It's all the election, So thirty two days, thirty two days, Okay,
Speaker 10: we got some business to do. We got some business
Speaker 10: to do, all right, thirty two days.
Speaker 1: Seriously, that's how bad she goes.
Speaker 2: She firstly hasn't memorized the speech well enough to be
Speaker 2: able to basically push through. But as soon as the
Speaker 2: script stops, she just immediately turns into the cluelessness of Biden. Now,
Speaker 2: come over here, because I want to show you something.
Speaker 2: So the question is about who is leading right now?
Speaker 1: Now? The absolute answer is, of.
Speaker 2: Course, no one knows, all right, just like a football
Speaker 2: commentator can't say before the game what's going to happen
Speaker 2: the final score at the end of the game. If
Speaker 2: that was the case, they wouldn't be football comented they'd
Speaker 2: be professional better, and they'd be worth millions and millions
Speaker 2: and millions and millions of dollars. Okay, but the best
Speaker 2: we can do is try to take the pulse and
Speaker 2: have a little look around about some of the information.
Speaker 1: Here I say the data.
Speaker 2: Now, seven states matter. You know, these are the seven
Speaker 2: states that often flip from team Red to team blue.
Speaker 2: There are people who voted Obama twice and then voted
Speaker 2: Trump and then went back to Biden. And the expectation
Speaker 2: is many or some of these people may well go
Speaker 2: back to Trump. So here are the seven states that
Speaker 2: matter and what happened at the last election. So Biden
Speaker 2: won the states of Arizona, Georgia, Wisconsin, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and
Speaker 2: Michigan in terms of the Trump.
Speaker 1: Won North Carolina.
Speaker 2: Now, to give you an idea though in some detail,
Speaker 2: Biden won Arizona by ten thousand votes or zero point
Speaker 2: four percent. He won Georgia by zero point three percent,
Speaker 2: Wisconsin by zero point six percent. See how tight these
Speaker 2: things are when you actually have a look at the
Speaker 2: seven states.
Speaker 1: The margin that Biden beat Trump last.
Speaker 2: Time like not even a football stadium full of people, right,
Speaker 2: really small numbers, which is why when you see a
Speaker 2: one point lead this way or a one point lead
Speaker 2: that way, that is the tipping point potentially when it
Speaker 2: comes to these states. So I also wanted to double
Speaker 2: check something about where the polls are today. Now the
Speaker 2: polls today so that Trump would win Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina,
Speaker 2: Harris would win Wisconsin, Nevada, and Michigan, and of course
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania would be a tie.
Speaker 1: But I want to tell.
Speaker 2: You something about how wrong the polls were eight years ago.
Speaker 1: You know that, but they're actually worse four years ago.
Speaker 2: In many and most states, they really oversold how well
Speaker 2: Biden was doing.
Speaker 1: So even though he won.
Speaker 2: And he won by a little bit, what the information
Speaker 2: was going into the election was nowhere near the reality.
Speaker 2: In fact, in Arizona the vote has now moved where
Speaker 2: Trump is now one point eight percent better than he
Speaker 2: was at the last election. In Georgia again one point
Speaker 2: eight percent better than it was at the last election,
Speaker 2: Harris is now polling zero point two percent better than
Speaker 2: Biden did. In Wisconsin, Trump is polling one point three
Speaker 2: percent better than he did at the last election. In Nevada,
Speaker 2: Harris is polling almost a point better than Trump. Sorry,
Speaker 2: than Biden did at the last election, and that would
Speaker 2: flip that state Michigan, where Harris is up zero point
Speaker 2: seven according to polls, Trump is now doing two point
Speaker 2: one percent better than he did at the last election,
Speaker 2: and Pennsylvania is a tie. So let me show it
Speaker 2: to you in picture form, where again, basically, if you
Speaker 2: see Harris winning just somewhere, it's more likely that, based
Speaker 2: off the last cycle and the cycle four, that the
Speaker 2: polls are yes undercounting Trump. So in my view, if
Speaker 2: she is anything but a point up in some of
Speaker 2: these places, then you've basically got to start to move
Speaker 2: them towards Trump. Here in fact, those seven swing states Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 2: North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada. All right, if you said
Speaker 2: that the polls are one hundred percent right today, Bang
Speaker 2: Trump would be the president and he still wouldn't need Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: Now again, there are in some states places where you
Speaker 2: don't take the whole state, you just take the electorates,
Speaker 2: and there's like three electorates in a state. Again, very boring,
Speaker 2: but still right right now, if the poles are correct
Speaker 2: and it all happened, Trump would.
Speaker 1: Win two forty seven with Pennsylvania left over.
Speaker 2: So let's imagine that's the case where it's all down
Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania. So the five most recent polls in Pennsylvania,
Speaker 2: they say that it's a tie, that it's Trump by
Speaker 2: a mile, it's a tie, it's Trump by a mile,
Speaker 2: or it's a tie. Now, all of those poles, bar one,
Speaker 2: were very pro bided polls. In fact, they got the
Speaker 2: state wrong by two point eight percent last time, three
Speaker 2: point two percent, three point eight percent, four point eight percent,
Speaker 2: and one point eight percent. So if you are asking
Speaker 2: me who is winning tonight, I'll say Trump because he's
Speaker 2: close enough in the places where he is behind for
Speaker 2: the problems with the polls to be the same four
Speaker 2: years later, meaning that slightly behind is actually slightly in front.
Speaker 2: If all the polls are right right now, you've seen
Speaker 2: that he can win it without Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: And if it's.
Speaker 2: Tie or pro Trump in the five most recent polls
Speaker 2: and all of those poles were wrong by a significant
Speaker 2: margin last time, then it is Trump in front. So
Speaker 2: again right now tonight, one month out, I think Trump
Speaker 2: is in front. It's why he doesn't want a debate.
Speaker 2: To get to the debate, have another debate. He's happy
Speaker 2: for it.
Speaker 1: Just a trend like this until the end.
Speaker 2: Undecided voters not undecided voters there, just people who are
Speaker 2: wanting to vote for the winner. So if the Poles
Speaker 2: keept going this way, he will look like more of
Speaker 2: a winner and then potentially be one. But of course
Speaker 2: I can thin get completely wrong, and we'll all find
Speaker 2: out together. Now I should tell you as well, well, yes,
Speaker 2: I am planning to go to the United States and
Speaker 2: we're going to do a week of shows from there.
Speaker 1: We're going to do normal shows from there.
Speaker 2: It's not going to be one hour every day of
Speaker 2: American stuff, right, still going to rip into elbow at
Speaker 2: the start of the show. The editorial is going to
Speaker 2: look the same. We'll have a couple of American guests
Speaker 2: towards the end of each hour. But basically we're going
Speaker 2: to be doing this show as it is right now,
Speaker 2: just from somewhere else.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's the plan. So when you hear them heading off.
Speaker 2: To Washington, don't think, oh, it's just going to talk
Speaker 2: polls for an hour every day. No, I'll keep an
Speaker 2: eye on the greatest country of all this one quick
Speaker 2: break back with more here on pul Murray life.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into it right now.
Speaker 2: James Ashby currently in Queensland in the man cave right now,
Speaker 2: none other than the love Linda Scott. I apologize, I've
Speaker 2: got a little bit of a whatever's going on right now,
Speaker 2: but we'll power on, okay. So this is what Giggles
Speaker 2: Miles had to say about any preference deal with one
Speaker 2: nation roll of tape.
Speaker 6: It has long been our practice to put the right
Speaker 6: wing racist party One Nation last, and I intend to
Speaker 6: be highlighting to all of our multicultural communities how David
Speaker 6: Chris Furley is embracing the right wing racist party one Nation.
Speaker 6: We've been putting one nation last for twenty five odd years.
Speaker 6: There have been times when there were LMP leaders who
Speaker 6: were principled enough to do the same thing. The current
Speaker 6: LMP leader clearly.
Speaker 2: Is not James your response, not just as a candidate,
Speaker 2: but somebody who's been around one Nation for a very
Speaker 2: long time.
Speaker 4: Now, Paul, do you remember thirty odd years ago when
Speaker 4: you'd go to the butcher and you'd say, give me
Speaker 4: a couple of lambshanks, and the butcher look at you
Speaker 4: as though you were taking them home to feed the dog.
Speaker 4: But Meanwhile, you're throwing them in the crop pot. No
Speaker 4: one needed to know that's what you ate. Fast forward
Speaker 4: thirty years and Lambshanks are a prime cut and One
Speaker 4: Nation has become a very very palatable party to vote for,
Speaker 4: just like those Lambshanks. We are the best choice, best
Speaker 4: choice for so many people in Queensland. And look we've
Speaker 4: been a good choice for people right across the country.
Speaker 4: We've now got elected members in every state across mainland Australia,
Speaker 4: so we must be doing something right. I think it
Speaker 4: was a cheap shot from Steven Miles. He is desperate
Speaker 4: and One Nation are winning over a lot of those
Speaker 4: voters from Labor who just can't stomach the idea of
Speaker 4: voting for the LMP. Let's face it, the LMP and
Speaker 4: Labor have been on a unity ticket for at least
Speaker 4: the last twelve months. In legislation. They voted for treaty
Speaker 4: here in Queensland, they voted for higher coal royalties, the
Speaker 4: pair of them. They've passed so many bad choices, including
Speaker 4: Labour's budget, you know David Chris fully voted for.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of people that.
Speaker 4: Are saying, well, we can't stomach either of them. So
Speaker 4: we're going to vote for one day. So he's scared,
Speaker 4: he's worried, and a lot of people will continue to
Speaker 4: come One Nation's way over the next three weeks. Early
Speaker 4: voting starts in a.
Speaker 2: Week now, Linda, you'd be more than happy with the
Speaker 2: Labour's position over a long period of time. I would
Speaker 2: suggest that you know, One Nation has well and truly
Speaker 2: moderated from whatever the apparent problem was, however long ago.
Speaker 11: But what do you think, Well, look, I mean really
Speaker 11: one nation's positions are a matter for James. But Stephen
Speaker 11: Males is right to highlight that twenty five years ago
Speaker 11: John Howard took the principal position of not preferencing one
Speaker 11: nation and that by and large has been a bipartisan
Speaker 11: position of both the major political parties in Australia for
Speaker 11: that two and a half decade period. I think really
Speaker 11: the question for James is what did he get for
Speaker 11: the electorate of kepul for this preference deal that has
Speaker 11: allegedly been done with the Liberals. Are there any local
Speaker 11: benefits that you secured for your electorate, James? Do you
Speaker 11: support the policy on abortion?
Speaker 1: James?
Speaker 2: Like on the low blow was very clear that that's
Speaker 2: that's none of that changing, nor euth in Asia as well.
Speaker 1: But but again, I mean, you know, my pushback.
Speaker 2: Here is the Greens have got so much worse than
Speaker 2: four years ago, right, they are in a much wilder place,
Speaker 2: yet never a controversy about Labour's relationship with them.
Speaker 11: Not when Labor does not exchange preferences with the Greens.
Speaker 11: We have these policy discussions, and so I don't think
Speaker 11: it's unreasonable to ask James what he thinks about Chris
Speaker 11: Follies abortion policies.
Speaker 1: Which is should not change.
Speaker 11: That's not right actually that he wants to get abortion
Speaker 11: in Queensland. For Queensland, I need to answer this question.
Speaker 4: Look, I think it's gutless of David christ Fully to
Speaker 4: stand by Labour's laws where they're allowed in Queensland. Here
Speaker 4: late term abortion right up to the very day before
Speaker 4: a child is born. I think that's a and the
Speaker 4: simple fact that a child can be still born alive
Speaker 4: after a father abortion and medical staff are forced to
Speaker 4: just leave it there and die on its own no assistance.
Speaker 4: Your cruel, Linda, and so are all your Labor colleagues,
Speaker 4: and so too is David Chris and Fully for standing
Speaker 4: by that legislation.
Speaker 1: All right, come a great we've got to change.
Speaker 4: You're heartless, most heartless I've ever heard.
Speaker 2: Okay, we've got a couple of other things to get
Speaker 2: to before we get to Sharry, who is in Israel
Speaker 2: right now. So I won't go in and around those issues.
Speaker 2: But there was an interesting piece, a piece of such
Speaker 2: a wanky word thing column in the ABC where they're
Speaker 2: talking about how the middle class is really hurting right now. Welcome,
Speaker 2: I'm glad they've started watching this program. But they also
Speaker 2: make sort of a couple of interesting points about people
Speaker 2: like Kamala Harris who want to say, well, I'm middle class,
Speaker 2: or Kate Blanchett who claims to be in middle class
Speaker 2: as well. I just want to step back and to
Speaker 2: the side here where Linda, all of us are from
Speaker 2: somewhere right. We will have that in our DNA about
Speaker 2: the types of houses or the types of families which
Speaker 2: used to be, but isn't the reality what we are
Speaker 2: today is in the case of Kamala Harris, the vice president, Okay, Blain,
Speaker 2: she's a millionaire, or my case, I'm hosting a television show.
Speaker 2: So do you think that the average voter falls for
Speaker 2: the idea that well they I know you're a millionaire now,
Speaker 2: but you used to be middle class.
Speaker 11: Well it's such a great question, isn't it. Because I
Speaker 11: love Kate Blanchet, but I think it's pretty hard for
Speaker 11: her to argue that she's middle class. I think we
Speaker 11: can all agree on that tonight. But I also think
Speaker 11: that you can be middle class in Australia or indeed
Speaker 11: around the world at the moment, and because of the
Speaker 11: global infationary pressures, it's still difficult to afford things.
Speaker 1: Why in selling is mental, you know, It's.
Speaker 11: Why we've got to have these really important discussions about
Speaker 11: cost of living. It's why again, James, you've got to
Speaker 11: tell us what you're secure for steel, for your local
Speaker 11: electorate in Keple in Queensland. We need to understand what
Speaker 11: elected leaders are going to do about cost of living
Speaker 11: relief for people, because it's a really important topic.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I won't get into that, and let's
Speaker 2: just get to your bold prediction for the wak ahead, James.
Speaker 1: What stands out for you, mate? What's definitely happening this week?
Speaker 4: A little more desperate play from Stephn Miles I noticed
Speaker 4: on in social media. Is today's holding up at barrew
Speaker 4: Munday while talking about fishing in Morton Bay. The field
Speaker 4: doesn't even know that Barra Mundy don't live.
Speaker 1: That far south.
Speaker 4: And look, if you're desperate to try and chase the fishermen,
Speaker 4: you've got Buckley's mate. You've shut down all the commercial
Speaker 4: fishing in Queensland and you try to take away the
Speaker 4: rights of recreational anglers. There's only one party that'll stand
Speaker 4: up for fishermen in Queensland.
Speaker 1: That's one nation.
Speaker 2: That is an odd message man, and I love it, Linda,
Speaker 2: give me the ten second.
Speaker 11: I go for the rabbit as but we've got to
Speaker 11: see the Panthers win tonight. Go go the Panther.
Speaker 1: I'm not aware of any football boom play. Thank you
Speaker 1: very much, appreciate it. See who next week, guys.
Speaker 2: Appreciate a quick break back with more with Cherry Markston,
Speaker 2: who is in Israel.
Speaker 1: That's where her show will be coming from this week.
Speaker 1: A little preview in a moment.
Speaker 2: As you know, about ten to ten in some parts
Speaker 2: of Australia, ten to eight in other parts, plus or
Speaker 2: minus an hour and a half, then three hours, but
Speaker 2: right now it's about ten minutes before two o'clock in Israel,
Speaker 2: and that's where my dear friends Harry Markson is ahead
Speaker 2: of October the seventh and its anniversary tomorrow. We all
Speaker 2: know how deeply she has felt this issue, how excellent
Speaker 2: her reporting has been, and she is in Israel right
Speaker 2: now where she is getting ready for a week of
Speaker 2: what are going to be impactful shows. And make sure
Speaker 2: that you watch it each and every night. Cherry, nice
Speaker 2: to see you. I've been following your socials to see
Speaker 2: things with your own eyes.
Speaker 5: What's it like, Paul Look, thank you for having me
Speaker 5: on your show. As you know, I've given my heart
Speaker 5: and soul to reporting on what happened the terror attacks
Speaker 5: to Israel over the past here, but being here in person,
Speaker 5: and I spent the day yesterday at the kibbutzim and
Speaker 5: at the site of the Nova Music Festival, and actually
Speaker 5: speaking to people face to face, holding friends, giving them
Speaker 5: a hug, holding them in your arms, who watched their
Speaker 5: best mates be shot and die right next to them,
Speaker 5: young women at the Nova Music Festival. This brings the
Speaker 5: reality of the war and why Israel is in a war,
Speaker 5: why it's fighting to bring home one hundred and one
Speaker 5: hostages who are still in Gaza. It brings it all home,
Speaker 5: and Paul, already, the people I've spoken to, the stories
Speaker 5: they've told me are so powerful. There was one Australian
Speaker 5: murdered on October seven. Her name is Gullet Carbone. She's
Speaker 5: a grandmother. She was a grandmother. Her brother took us
Speaker 5: through her home her keyboots yesterday, where she had harrowing
Speaker 5: final hours as she bravely as a sixty six year
Speaker 5: old grandmother tried to fight off her mus terrorists. There
Speaker 5: was no lock on her safe room. She battled to
Speaker 5: keep the door shut. She never made it. Paul, his
Speaker 5: interview was powerful. Here's just a snippet of what we'll
Speaker 5: play on my program tomorrow night.
Speaker 12: It on around six thirty. I was already on my bike,
Speaker 12: on my way out for my morning bike ride, and
Speaker 12: then there were the rockets. The rockets came down really heavily,
Speaker 12: are way more stronger than the usual ones that we
Speaker 12: so to speak used to and I stopped. And then
Speaker 12: afterwards I realized that a friend of mine saw from
Speaker 12: his house all the Hamas guys on their bikes and
Speaker 12: their pickup trucks.
Speaker 5: And Paul, the reality is we just keep hearing these
Speaker 5: demands from the international community and including from our own
Speaker 5: government for a ceasefire. When you walk through the streets
Speaker 5: of the kibbutz, you see the burnt out, destroyed houses,
Speaker 5: You see a pink little girl's bicycle laying on the ground.
Speaker 5: You hear the stories of the ten month old twins
Speaker 5: who were shot dead, little girl Orphant three years old.
Speaker 5: It is just so devastating that Israel cannot continue to
Speaker 5: exist with the threat of these terrorists so close on
Speaker 5: their border on the south, with Gaza on the north,
Speaker 5: with Hesbellah in Lebanon. And you know, it's all very
Speaker 5: well for Pennywog and alban Easy thousands of kilometers away,
Speaker 5: to demand that Israel doesn't defend its citizens, that it
Speaker 5: lays down arms. But that is not what is going
Speaker 5: to protect the people here.
Speaker 1: And I tell you what.
Speaker 5: Gullet Carbone's brother, Danny Masner, he told me he's never
Speaker 5: been involved in politics his whole life. He knew who
Speaker 5: the Prime Minister of Australia was, that was it. But
Speaker 5: now he feels passionate. He is furious at Pennywong for
Speaker 5: the fact that she came here to Israel and she
Speaker 5: didn't bother to go bear witness to visit the kibbutz
Speaker 5: or the site of the Nova music festival. He thinks
Speaker 5: that is unforgivable. And I tell you what, that's how
Speaker 5: most Israelis feel towards the Albanesi government.
Speaker 2: Now, what we can see behind you is what seems
Speaker 2: like obviously normal every day Sunday, But obviously the size
Speaker 2: of Israel, to drive from the north of it to
Speaker 2: the south of it is about six hours. That wouldn't
Speaker 2: even get you halfway across a place like New South Wales.
Speaker 2: We know what's happening to the south, we know what's
Speaker 2: happening to the north.
Speaker 1: What since have you been.
Speaker 2: Able to pick up about just how close to absolute
Speaker 2: instability in carnage while at the same time where you're
Speaker 2: standing is in a level of peace, but at a
Speaker 2: moment's notice that could be disrupted and everyone's going downstairs
Speaker 2: to a bomb shield.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, this is the incredible contradiction of life
Speaker 5: in Israel. Israelis get on with life, they pick up,
Speaker 5: they carry on, they go to restaurants, they go to cafes.
Speaker 5: You know, very resilient people, Jewish people, very resilient Israelis
Speaker 5: have had to live under the constant threat of potential
Speaker 5: attack for decades. Yet at the same time what happened
Speaker 5: a year ago has shaken Israel in an unprecedented and
Speaker 5: unimaginable way. People are broken. You barely meet anyone who
Speaker 5: hasn't been affected by those terror attacks. It has been
Speaker 5: quite extraordinary. And yes, so at the same time people
Speaker 5: get on with life. But everybody has on their phone
Speaker 5: and I've now got it as well an app. So
Speaker 5: whenever there's a rocket siren, you get a notification and
Speaker 5: I tell you, Paul, it pings all day long, and
Speaker 5: if you're in that area, you've got to get straight
Speaker 5: down to a bomb shelter if you can. And the
Speaker 5: communities in the north, you know, the media doesn't care
Speaker 5: to report that eighty thousand Israelis have been displaced from
Speaker 5: their homes because of the threat of HESBLA near the
Speaker 5: Lebanon border. So this is, you know, a community that's
Speaker 5: very affected, very aware of the situation. But life goes on.
Speaker 1: So good to talk to you, mate.
Speaker 2: I'm out of time, but I can't wait to see
Speaker 2: what you've got to say tomorrow about mccron basically saying
Speaker 2: it's time to starve Israel of weapons to defend itself.
Speaker 1: Come wait to see that.
Speaker 2: Eight o'clock in Sydney, Melbourne, seven o'clock in Brisbane, and
Speaker 2: you name your time everywhere else for sharing.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow night, Love you, Dunna. All right, we'll talk to
Speaker 1: her again tomorrow, all right.
Speaker 2: Quick break back with more and in fact it'll be
Speaker 2: the Royal Report after us, because I'm done, hopefully will
Speaker 2: hold up, have enough glasses of water with
Speaker 1: Honey, and I see you tomorrow night