WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 18 November

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<v Speaker 1>From the sky in center.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Paul Murray Live. Indeed censoring the Internet. Are

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<v Speaker 2>we days away from it being killed in the Senate.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you more about what I know tonight. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>there's lots of other things to talk about. While Airbus

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<v Speaker 2>Elbow upgrade Elbows currently overseas. Newpolling here shows he's in

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<v Speaker 2>a world of trouble and the numbers are not moving.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, you know Allen Jones was arrested and charged

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<v Speaker 2>today and Nicholas Rees, the mayor of Melbourne freshly re elected.

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<v Speaker 2>He will be on the show tonight, and not just

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<v Speaker 2>as a guest. He's here for the full back and

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<v Speaker 2>forth with Matt Canavan, debated at its best always here

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<v Speaker 2>on Polari Life. But first let's focus on a story

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<v Speaker 2>that in my mind, has been as impactful as many

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<v Speaker 2>the others we've talked about all year, everything from the

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<v Speaker 2>change of what happened in America to the Queensland election

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<v Speaker 2>and so many other stories in between. But the story

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<v Speaker 2>of little baby Luca has sat with me and I

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<v Speaker 2>know you since we first learned that this beautiful little

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<v Speaker 2>boy who had been attacked by a man who police

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<v Speaker 2>alleged has already left the country, and of course this

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<v Speaker 2>was after boiling water was poured upon him in a park. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason I mentioned this tonight is because I love

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<v Speaker 2>to follow up, especially when it's some good news about

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<v Speaker 2>Australia's bravest little boy. The Quarier Mile today had an

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<v Speaker 2>interview with Baby Luca's parents about his recovery, about how

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<v Speaker 2>he's going, and about his emotional state. And he's obviously

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<v Speaker 2>only very little, but obviously he's deeply traumatized by what

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<v Speaker 2>has taken place. Here are the photos that I want

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<v Speaker 2>to show you on a day where I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>show you some of the good news. Here of him

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<v Speaker 2>playing with Mum and Dad in the backyard like any

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<v Speaker 2>little bubba does in Queensland and Australia. Each and every

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<v Speaker 2>day he does bear the scars of what happened. Whether

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<v Speaker 2>those scars will be lifelong, we will all find out together.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course the strength that we have for this

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<v Speaker 2>little boy and love for his family is forever. According

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<v Speaker 2>to the article, his mother said that it had taken

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<v Speaker 2>a time for Luca to get over the incident, but

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<v Speaker 2>Luca was on a path to recovery. She says he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have a bath for like a month when he

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<v Speaker 2>had all the bandages, and when we poured water over

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<v Speaker 2>his head when we had a bath, he started screaming.

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<v Speaker 2>It did take a little while, but and he's still

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<v Speaker 2>a little weary of people, and he's become a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit shy. So when we go into a group situation,

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<v Speaker 2>will he'll often hide behind my legs and I'll just

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<v Speaker 2>take a little while for him to warm up to everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, that is the result of the traumas that

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<v Speaker 2>he has been through. The story, however, gets better from here,

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<v Speaker 2>which is that he's now comfortable having a bath, thankfully,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's getting better with people once he assesses the situation.

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<v Speaker 2>This beautiful little boy whose strength is unbelievable to see,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wish I could show you his smiling little face.

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<v Speaker 2>But because of the quirks of the lord, despite the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that the person who police allege is responsible for

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<v Speaker 2>this has apparently fled the country because he is a youth,

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<v Speaker 2>that of course means that he can't be identified. It's

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<v Speaker 2>his family who have told us about baby Luca, so

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<v Speaker 2>I pass on what they are willing to be made public,

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<v Speaker 2>But sadly they can't show his face, and that's why

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<v Speaker 2>I can't show you his face. And I hope that

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<v Speaker 2>his face has many more smiles since what has taken place,

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<v Speaker 2>and I hope that he has a life that has

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<v Speaker 2>many more smiles to come. His father said he was

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<v Speaker 2>hopeful that his son would have a big future. We

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<v Speaker 2>are definitely optimistic at this point. He already looks better

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<v Speaker 2>than we ever thought. Hopefully by the time he becomes

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<v Speaker 2>a teenager, you won't even be able to see the

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<v Speaker 2>scars anymore. So strength and love to baby Luka, his mum,

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<v Speaker 2>dad and everyone who are around him. Strength and love

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<v Speaker 2>from those that will never be lucky enough to meet him,

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<v Speaker 2>but think about him every day. Now today, Question time back,

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<v Speaker 2>prime minister still overseas, of course, playing world leader, cuddling

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<v Speaker 2>up to lame duck presidents or prime ministers who like him,

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<v Speaker 2>have a very uncertain political future. But there were two

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<v Speaker 2>stories in Canberra today. I think one is an obvious

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<v Speaker 2>one to talk about. The stories were the Federal government

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<v Speaker 2>making some moves about apparently protecting the use of cash

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<v Speaker 2>when you go to certain shops, or a report that

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<v Speaker 2>says there are three million Australian families who are in

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<v Speaker 2>danger of homelessness, which one do you reckon? The media

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<v Speaker 2>talked about.

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<v Speaker 3>Today, retailers selling groceries, fuel and other essential supplies will

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<v Speaker 3>be forced to accept cash under a plan to help

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<v Speaker 3>those who haven't made the digital switch.

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<v Speaker 4>Cash may no longer be king, but the alineazy government

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<v Speaker 4>is moving to keep currency in the economy.

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<v Speaker 2>The government to mandate acceptance of cash to protect the

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<v Speaker 2>one and a half million Australians who use it for

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<v Speaker 2>eighty percent of their purchases. Honestly, the details around this surprise, surprise,

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<v Speaker 2>and nowhere near what the press release said. The Treasurer

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<v Speaker 2>put this one out this morning, the media fell for

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<v Speaker 2>it and by six pm it was a more dominant

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<v Speaker 2>story than three million of our fellow citizens heading towards

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<v Speaker 2>potential homelessness. But as always there's an asterisk, there's a catch.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not going to be the protection of cash

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<v Speaker 2>and telling every retailer in the country that they have

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<v Speaker 2>to accept cash. No, it's a review that will report

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<v Speaker 2>back at the start of next year, and it will

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<v Speaker 2>only affect essential services where supposedly legal tender, which should

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<v Speaker 2>already be accepted by everyone as a way of paying

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<v Speaker 2>for things after all. Otherwise the bits of paper or

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<v Speaker 2>the coin means nothing but have a look after the review,

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<v Speaker 2>and they make the decision and they pass the rules.

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<v Speaker 2>It kicks in on the first of January in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six. So a story that doesn't really affect everyone

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<v Speaker 2>who wants to use cash, which is a review into

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<v Speaker 2>a system that will not return its findings despite the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that the governments already told us what they want

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<v Speaker 2>the findings to be, will not report back until next year,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it doesn't coming to effect until twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold the presses breaking news meantime, the actual story of

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<v Speaker 2>the day is this story about our fellow Australians. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I know some people don't want to talk about this

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<v Speaker 2>because it does not have a silver lining. But right now,

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<v Speaker 2>there are three point seven million people in this country

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<v Speaker 2>who have trouble getting a meal each and every day.

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<v Speaker 2>There are people who are lining up for food banks.

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<v Speaker 2>It has got worse and worse, and there are no

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<v Speaker 2>signs of it getting better. There are also a significant

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<v Speaker 2>number of people who are living right on the edge

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<v Speaker 2>right now, and if they're not directly homeless, they're living

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<v Speaker 2>in things like tents and cars. These are people who

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<v Speaker 2>have jobs. These are people who go to work, but

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have enough money to pay for somewhere to live.

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<v Speaker 2>A report was released today by Homelessness Australia and I

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<v Speaker 2>think this should have got much more attention than the

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<v Speaker 2>government trying to talk about anything but it's bad economic record.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll read from the ABC here the rising cost of

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<v Speaker 2>living and rates of rental stress have left about three

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<v Speaker 2>minion Australians at risk of homelessness. That's more than a

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<v Speaker 2>sixty percent increase in less than ten years. A state

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<v Speaker 2>by state breakdown has found that Queensland in Victoria, they

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<v Speaker 2>are the hardest hit.

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<v Speaker 5>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>In Victoria, nine hundred and eighty seven thousand people are

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<v Speaker 2>at risk of losing their home. According to this report,

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<v Speaker 2>the state has seen twenty three percent increase in rental stress.

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<v Speaker 2>Put simply, if you are lucky enough to have a

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<v Speaker 2>rental property. The increases in the rental property mean that

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<v Speaker 2>people who have not seen any significant wage rises yet

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<v Speaker 2>are still having to find extra money for all of

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<v Speaker 2>those extra things that we've been talking about for the

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<v Speaker 2>past couple of years. Means they may not be able

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<v Speaker 2>to pay their rent. If they can't pay their rent,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll get booted out. And of course we know there

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<v Speaker 2>are so few properties that are actually available right now.

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<v Speaker 2>This story, to me is way more important than a

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<v Speaker 2>review that reports back next year with consequences of twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six and not for cash to be available everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>or for it to be mandated, it must be accepted.

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<v Speaker 2>None are only for essential services, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that there's any plan anytime soon for service stations or

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<v Speaker 2>supermarkets to not be accepting cash. So it's a review

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<v Speaker 2>into something that isn't changing with a promise of it

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<v Speaker 2>not changing in twenty twenty six, But between now in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six now in twenty twenty six, three million

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<v Speaker 2>people are right on the line, right on the line.

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<v Speaker 2>The report's author and CEO from Homelessness Australia spoke to

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<v Speaker 2>the ABC ahead of the release of this report today

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<v Speaker 2>and Cape Colvin said that people who could have afforded

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<v Speaker 2>private rentals just a few years ago in our resorting

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<v Speaker 2>to CouchSurfing, sleeping in cars or pitching tents. Now there

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<v Speaker 2>is something that the federal government could do in this situation,

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<v Speaker 2>but of course they have no interest in doing that,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is reducing the number of people that we

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<v Speaker 2>bring into the country each and every year now, while

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<v Speaker 2>Australia has a skill shortage, that is in part because

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<v Speaker 2>generations of Australian politicians have shamed kids from picking up

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<v Speaker 2>a hammer for going to tafe instead. From King Beasley

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<v Speaker 2>right through to Anthony Albernezi as labor leaders, the preference

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<v Speaker 2>has been go to university, Go to university, you must

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<v Speaker 2>go to university. Well, there's a story about that as

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<v Speaker 2>well at a moment or two's time. But the reality

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<v Speaker 2>is is that while this Prime Minister told us that

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<v Speaker 2>he was going to cut immigration, he told us that

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<v Speaker 2>in December of last year, he has failed to deliver

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<v Speaker 2>on that promise. In fact, the numbers by any standard

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<v Speaker 2>are exactly where they were twelve months ago, and exactly

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<v Speaker 2>where they were twelve months before that. We are in

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<v Speaker 2>a world of pain at the moment when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to migration, and he is becoming to become a political

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<v Speaker 2>issue now again for those that are half paying attention,

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<v Speaker 2>for those that are getting ready to run off to

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<v Speaker 2>the umpire, for those that are going to complain that

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<v Speaker 2>somehow this is some sort of racist dog whistle garbage

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<v Speaker 2>that when we keep bringing in hundreds of thousands of

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<v Speaker 2>people and more than a million people since this government

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<v Speaker 2>came to power. That is a million people that need

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<v Speaker 2>to live somewhere. That's a million people who compete with

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<v Speaker 2>the already struggling number of people for rental places. That

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<v Speaker 2>is a million people who are competing with those that

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<v Speaker 2>are struggling to pay for their first or family home.

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<v Speaker 2>That is why immigration needs to be discussed, because if

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<v Speaker 2>we have a system where three million existing Australians are

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<v Speaker 2>this close to being homeless, and we are adding more

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<v Speaker 2>and more people for them to compete with when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to rental properties, we are going to have more

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<v Speaker 2>people homeless in this country. But as late as last weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>Lefty Laura Tingle was writing in the ABC in the

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<v Speaker 2>Financial Review that we need to have a mature conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>a sensible conversation about migration. This, of course, is the

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<v Speaker 2>lady who thinks that as a result of the issues

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<v Speaker 2>that have arised because of the problems of too many

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<v Speaker 2>people coming into the country too quickly, that apparently we

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<v Speaker 2>were going to turn on foreign looking people if they

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<v Speaker 2>were trying to buy a home.

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<v Speaker 6>For a major political university saying, as Nicky says, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>everything that's going wrong in this country is because of migrants.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, as a certain flash of people turning

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<v Speaker 6>up to try to rent a property or at an

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<v Speaker 6>auction and they look a bit different. What have you

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<v Speaker 6>defined different as basically has given them license to be abused?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, but we should have a sensible conversation. That's

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<v Speaker 2>her starting point, a sensible conversation about migration. Australia has

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<v Speaker 2>too many people coming to the country while too many

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<v Speaker 2>people living in the country are struggling. The federal government

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<v Speaker 2>is in a position to try to help those people.

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<v Speaker 2>But literally they are spending twice as much money as

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<v Speaker 2>they give to people like food Bank on advertisements to

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<v Speaker 2>make you think that they are doing anything about cost

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<v Speaker 2>of living. Saving their own political backside is what they

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<v Speaker 2>spend taxpayers money on. Otherwise, it's up to charities to

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<v Speaker 2>take care of those who are right on the line

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<v Speaker 2>three million people. I ask you, what was the lead

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<v Speaker 2>story out of Canberra today. Meantime, while the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 2>again is faffing about with world leaders, including again the

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<v Speaker 2>president who was a Lane Duk president, these meetings are

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<v Speaker 2>useless until, of course Donald Trump turns up. Well, you

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<v Speaker 2>may remember that there was a little thoot bubble from

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<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister when he was foe launching his election campaign,

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<v Speaker 2>which he has already told us is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>in May of next year. It was an attempt to

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<v Speaker 2>change the conversation from the relentless negative publicity about airbas Albo,

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<v Speaker 2>the relentless failures of his government to actually deal with

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<v Speaker 2>cost of living. Remember, while they say there's a tax

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<v Speaker 2>cut for everyone, it was too little, it was too late. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>there's been twelve of interest rate rises on their watch,

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<v Speaker 2>in part because of the way that they are running

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<v Speaker 2>the economy. But there was a multi billion dollar promise

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<v Speaker 2>which was made at that launch, which was that Anthony

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<v Speaker 2>Abernezi and us the taxpayer were going to wipe student debt,

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<v Speaker 2>not all of it, but a very significant amount of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Here he is announcing the policy a re elected Labor

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<v Speaker 2>government will take twenty percent off student debt for everyone

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<v Speaker 2>who has won. Now, remember I've spoken about this before.

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<v Speaker 2>The overall amount of debt that is owed by people

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<v Speaker 2>who have gone to university but have not paid it

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<v Speaker 2>back yet. The fees to the Australian tax pase eighty

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<v Speaker 2>eight zero b four billion dollars. The promise that's been

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<v Speaker 2>made by the Prime Minister. It's his second swipe at

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<v Speaker 2>this policy is roughly about ten billion dollars. Now, remember,

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<v Speaker 2>three million people in this country are right on the

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<v Speaker 2>line of homelessness. Where would you be spending ten billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, the Prime Minister is doing this not to

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<v Speaker 2>help with the cost of living, but to take on

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<v Speaker 2>the Greens because the difference between majority and minority for him,

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<v Speaker 2>most likely at the next election, is whether Greens take

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<v Speaker 2>labor seats. So ten billion dollars is being spent to

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<v Speaker 2>move people who go through the university system, who we

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<v Speaker 2>know are more likely to vote left. Jees, I wonder why,

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<v Speaker 2>and to make sure that they vote Labor not Greens,

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<v Speaker 2>even though if they vote Greens they'll still preference labor. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>guess what. A very significant number of those people who

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<v Speaker 2>are about to have their debt reduced don't live in

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<v Speaker 2>Australia and have no plans on paying back what they

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<v Speaker 2>owe to you and me. Great story, great exclusive. It's

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<v Speaker 2>wiseguy news dot com. Do you should be your homepage?

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<v Speaker 2>Because this was a ripper from them today the digital

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<v Speaker 2>team that twenty percent twenty percent of those that are

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<v Speaker 2>about to get a reduction in the bill, that many

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<v Speaker 2>of them play play and not to pay back. Currently

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<v Speaker 2>are overseas with no plan of paying the money back.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost forty thousand student debtors overseas have an average of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nine, seven hundred and eighty seven dollars in loans,

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<v Speaker 2>accounting to one point one billion dollars of total debt.

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<v Speaker 2>Scott New spoke to a number of overseas graduates who

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<v Speaker 2>knew they had to continue making the loan repayments but

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<v Speaker 2>said they didn't bother. So again, if the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 2>wants to stand by the cost of living changes for

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<v Speaker 2>Greens or labor voters at ten billion dollars, about a

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars worth of that is going to people who

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<v Speaker 2>already live overseas, and many of whom have no plan

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<v Speaker 2>on paying it back. A repeat. This is on a

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<v Speaker 2>night when we all learned three million Australians of this

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<v Speaker 2>close to homelessness. But of course they're not as loud

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<v Speaker 2>on Twitter or social media as many of the student

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<v Speaker 2>activists are. It's a disgraceful example about priorities. It's also

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<v Speaker 2>a disgraceful example about these people trying to change the

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<v Speaker 2>subject from their own mess only to create more of

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<v Speaker 2>a mess when they do it, which is why the

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<v Speaker 2>latest opinion polls again not good for the Prime minister.

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<v Speaker 2>They're getting better for Peter Dutton and the coalition. A

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<v Speaker 2>pole came out today by the Australian Financial Review, done

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<v Speaker 2>by the Freshwater Organization. It shows no change since their

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<v Speaker 2>last poll a few weeks ago. The Liberal National Party

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<v Speaker 2>would win an election fifty one to forty nine, but

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<v Speaker 2>of course it's all about seventy six seats and the

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<v Speaker 2>big as risko I has teld you, was about the Teals.

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<v Speaker 2>If the Teals stay, the Liberals won't get there. If

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<v Speaker 2>the Teals are blown away politically, well, obviously they are

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<v Speaker 2>a chance of forming government. But the worry for the

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister is not that he's losing on these numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>The worry for the Prime Minister is that if you

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<v Speaker 2>have a look at the trend of all of the

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<v Speaker 2>polls since the twenty twenty two election, they only had

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<v Speaker 2>in one direction down. Multiple polls are now starting to

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<v Speaker 2>cluster in this scenario where the Labour Party is south

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<v Speaker 2>of fifty percent, only ever so slightly, but still south

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<v Speaker 2>of fifty percent. That's because their primary vote, which is

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<v Speaker 2>four since the last election isn't even a third of

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<v Speaker 2>the country. Remember, as I told you last night, only

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<v Speaker 2>thirty percent of Australians think that we're headed in the

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<v Speaker 2>right direction. Pretty obvious to see which way they're voting.

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<v Speaker 2>If the Liberal Party has a forty primary vote, well

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<v Speaker 2>then they would win a conventional election. I keep mentioning

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<v Speaker 2>the Teals because it is the obvious reason why this

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<v Speaker 2>is not potentially a conventional election. The Greens pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>where they have been, but ever so slightly up. And

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<v Speaker 2>that number that matters is the everyone else. Everyone else

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<v Speaker 2>from the United Australian Party to the Victorian Socialists, your

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<v Speaker 2>local Teal Independent, you're real Independent, or of course Paul

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<v Speaker 2>En Hansen's One Nation. And when it comes to the leaders,

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<v Speaker 2>our old mat Ncholas Reese rejoining the show this evening,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, has talked much about the preferred prime minister role. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I've spoken about this many times before. Anthony Albanez he

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<v Speaker 2>made lead, but it's only by one point and he

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't even close to breaking fifty. Amazingly, just four percent

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<v Speaker 2>of people are still yet to make up their mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's imagine you split that in half. Bad news for

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<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister and Peter Dutton, who apparently is unelectable,

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<v Speaker 2>would get very close to doing so on the issues.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is what's really important the Labor Party. It

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<v Speaker 2>only leads barely on a few of them. It is

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<v Speaker 2>the environment, jobs and employment, healthcare, family and community, welfare

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<v Speaker 2>and benefits. But roads, infrastructure, housing, cost of living, managing

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<v Speaker 2>the economy, tax and spending, national security, migration and crime

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<v Speaker 2>are all issues which we know are greater priorities than

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<v Speaker 2>many of those that Labor are currently in favor of.

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<v Speaker 2>Certainly are leading on or campaigning on cost of living

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<v Speaker 2>right now. Fascinating to read thirty nine percent of people

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<v Speaker 2>say the Libs just twenty seven percent of people say Labor.

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<v Speaker 2>Also in campad to Day, there was an alleged consequence

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<v Speaker 2>for Lydia Thorpe's carry on which embarrassed herself, her cause,

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<v Speaker 2>and the country when she decided to make a spectacle

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<v Speaker 2>of herself. Of course, when King Charles and Quen Camilla

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<v Speaker 2>were here. I know by talking about her, I am

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<v Speaker 2>feeding the beast. But still it's worth mentioning here because

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<v Speaker 2>she was formally censured by the Senate today for her behavior. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>a censure of the Senate doesn't mean anything, she doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>lose a day's pay. She's not told she's not allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to sit in the Parliament for the next two weeks

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<v Speaker 2>because of course the Labor Party would need her vote. Remember,

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<v Speaker 2>she hasn't said what she's doing when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>the Misinformation Bill. But the reason why perhaps there should

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<v Speaker 2>be some attention paid to her formerly being told she

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<v Speaker 2>can't sit in the Parliament for at least one day,

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<v Speaker 2>or I would suggest the next two weeks, is because

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<v Speaker 2>of her very attitude despite when she was censured by

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<v Speaker 2>her own colleagues. This is what she did outside of

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<v Speaker 2>parliament today.

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<v Speaker 5>Center motion is like that.

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<v Speaker 7>To me.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't give a damn about censure motion. In fact,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to use it for kindling later on in

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<v Speaker 5>the week.

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<v Speaker 2>On our way towards summer. But she's to be starting fires. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The other part it was worth talking about was again

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<v Speaker 2>we know how unrepentant she is about these things, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's fine. She can be the worrior that she is.

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<v Speaker 2>But as I've pointed out before, she obviously had a

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<v Speaker 2>fingers crossed when she was giving a legal oath, something

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<v Speaker 2>that if you and I did in the court, that

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<v Speaker 2>would be a problem, but apparently to be signed in

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<v Speaker 2>as a senator with immense power for six years and

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<v Speaker 2>don't forget we still have her after the next election,

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<v Speaker 2>after she was just freshly reelected on Labour preferences green votes.

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<v Speaker 2>That the last election means she's there for six years

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<v Speaker 2>in an institution that apparently she completely hates, in a

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<v Speaker 2>country that she believes is not really the one that

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<v Speaker 2>we live in, because of course this country is her country,

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<v Speaker 2>not our country, and definitely not the kings.

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<v Speaker 5>If the colonizing king were to come to my country again,

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<v Speaker 5>our country, then I'll do it again, and I will

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<v Speaker 5>keep doing it. I swear my allegiance to the real

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<v Speaker 5>sovereign of these lands. First peoples are the real sovereigns.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm here to bring down the colony.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting though, that she's willing to be paid by the colony.

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<v Speaker 2>She's willing to have the legal protection of walking into

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<v Speaker 2>the Parliament and being able to say whatever she wants

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<v Speaker 2>without any sort of legal repercussions. She's willing to literally

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<v Speaker 2>be paid in money that has the King's face on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side of it. Talk about each way, albow,

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<v Speaker 2>it's every way when it comes to Lydia Thorpe. But

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<v Speaker 2>of course if I say this somehow I'm being racist. No,

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<v Speaker 2>of course not. If she was serious, she would resign.

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<v Speaker 2>She was serious, she would try to live some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of alternative lifestyle with an alternative currency. Or no, she

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<v Speaker 2>wants all of the power of the colony while bringing

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<v Speaker 2>down the colony and being paid with coins that have

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<v Speaker 2>the King's face on it. We will know in the

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<v Speaker 2>next week or so whether the censoring of the Internet

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<v Speaker 2>is going to become law. The Prime Minister and Communications

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<v Speaker 2>Minister have had a couple of cracks at this. They

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<v Speaker 2>call it the misinformation law. I call it censoring the

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<v Speaker 2>Internet because that's the plan. You know what the plan is.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how bad it is. And everyone from the

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<v Speaker 2>Human Rights Organization to the ABC, from church groups through

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<v Speaker 2>to everything that I've told you that this is a

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<v Speaker 2>terrible idea that they are putting in front of us. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>there are plenty of laws that exist about defamation in

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<v Speaker 2>this country. There are plenty of laws that exist about

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<v Speaker 2>inciting violence in this country, and there are serious consequences

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<v Speaker 2>for people who want to pedal in lies. But the

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<v Speaker 2>idea that social media companies will be fined if you

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<v Speaker 2>post something on the Internet that the government deems not

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<v Speaker 2>to be true is well and truly a step too far.

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<v Speaker 2>And it looks like this bill will die a death

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<v Speaker 2>in the Senate because the maths matters. Again, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to explain these numbers every night because I want everyone

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<v Speaker 2>to know what is happening here. Now, this vote, if

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<v Speaker 2>it's brought on tonight, would fail, which is why the

0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:12.959
<v Speaker 2>government is trying to string it out for as long

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<v Speaker 2>as possible. I think they're just delaying their pain. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>you need thirty nine votes to pass anything in the Senate.

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<v Speaker 2>If all of the Labor Party, including the President and

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<v Speaker 2>all of the Greens vote, that's thirty six. There are

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<v Speaker 2>five left wing votes on the cross Bench. But the

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<v Speaker 2>problem is David Pocock said no, meaning there's four left.

0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Tammy Tyrrell has said no, meaning there's three left. Fadom A.

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<v Speaker 2>Payman has said no meaning there are two left. And

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<v Speaker 2>today Jackie Lamby formally came out and said no, meaning

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<v Speaker 2>that there would be just one left. But how do

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<v Speaker 2>we not just watch Jackie Lamby having all sides of

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<v Speaker 2>an issue here. She knows this thing's going down. She

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<v Speaker 2>knows the concept of censoring the Internet is completely ridiculous,

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<v Speaker 2>not to mention, grossly unpopular and an attack on free speech.

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<v Speaker 2>But try and work out what her logic is for

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<v Speaker 2>voting no. When she was talking this morning here to

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<v Speaker 2>Kenny Heatley.

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<v Speaker 8>When I see social media that's going to police itself,

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<v Speaker 8>I have a problem with that. So I think the

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<v Speaker 8>intent of the bill is not going to be is

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<v Speaker 8>not going to end up the way they want it to.

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<v Speaker 8>So that's a real wober for me. And letting social

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<v Speaker 8>media police itself those platforms, that's half the problem that

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<v Speaker 8>we've got. So really I don't see the point in

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<v Speaker 8>the bloody bill, to be honest with you, it's just

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<v Speaker 8>a waste of time. Seriously, get some work done. Do

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<v Speaker 8>something about the cost of living.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there anything labor could come to you with to

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<v Speaker 3>make it more palatable for you or are you just

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<v Speaker 3>flat out against it?

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<v Speaker 8>No, I'm just pretty much flat out again sting quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 8>Like I said, there's a cost of living crisis out there.

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<v Speaker 8>Get on with it.

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<v Speaker 2>So it doesn't go far enough or it goes too far.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, that's just about her being able to turn

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<v Speaker 2>around and say no, no, no. Of course of living is

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<v Speaker 2>the focus unless they do what's her suggestion as she

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<v Speaker 2>moved to Private Members Bill, what does she want the

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<v Speaker 2>government to do? Many sides of Jackie Lamby, but let's

0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 2>get back to the mats. So there are other members

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<v Speaker 2>of the cross bench, but pretty obviously One Nation United

0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Australian Party. They're not going to go there. Dured Rennick's

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<v Speaker 2>not going to go there. So potentially David Van former

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:15.560
<v Speaker 2>Liberal who says that apparently he's open to all of this,

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<v Speaker 2>and then is of course there's Lydia Thorpe. But even

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<v Speaker 2>then that would be two of the three votes that

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<v Speaker 2>they need. So at this moment, even if they are

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<v Speaker 2>able to get a yes out of Lydia Thorpe, even

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<v Speaker 2>if they're able to get a yes for whatever bizarre

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<v Speaker 2>reason out of the former Liberal, they will still fall

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<v Speaker 2>one vote short. But let's make sure this happens. Freely

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<v Speaker 2>available on the internet is the number for the switchboard

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<v Speaker 2>of Parliament House in Canberra. Feel free to call that

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<v Speaker 2>number tomorrow and feel free to contact the senators who

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<v Speaker 2>still have not said whether they are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>yes or no. Will this thing die by one vote,

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<v Speaker 2>two or three? You can also send an email. All

0:25:57.320 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 2>you need to do is Go to aph dot gov

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<v Speaker 2>dot au, go to the senator's page, find a contact

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<v Speaker 2>from them. Please be polite, both on the phone and

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 2>in emails with a simple question of are you going

0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:14.119
<v Speaker 2>to vote for or against censoring the Internet? Again, the

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<v Speaker 2>numbers are not there right now, will magically they appear,

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<v Speaker 2>who knows. But let's make sure that we've done everything

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:22.639
<v Speaker 2>we can to make sure that the case is clear.

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<v Speaker 2>Australians want free speech protected for obviously reasons. The main

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<v Speaker 2>and dominant news story of the day today has involved

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<v Speaker 2>the broadcaster Alan Jones. It's been a difficult day for

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Speaker 2>many people as they process all of the information. But

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, he has been arrested this morning at

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<v Speaker 2>his home in Sydney and was charged by police this afternoon.

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<v Speaker 9>Those offenses include eleven charges of aggravated indecent assault where

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<v Speaker 9>the victim was under the authority of the offender, nine

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<v Speaker 9>charges related to assault with active indecency, two charges of

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<v Speaker 9>common assault, and two charges of sexual touching. Police will

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<v Speaker 9>allege these offenses took place between two thousand and one

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<v Speaker 9>and twenty nineteen, involving eight victims. The youngest of those

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 9>victims was seventeen year old when the time, at the

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<v Speaker 9>time when we elites the defense took place.

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<v Speaker 2>Now because the matters have now moved towards charges, and

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 2>that of course means an appearance in court. As time

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<v Speaker 2>will roll on. I'll have nothing more to say about

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<v Speaker 2>all of this other than to obviously note police are

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 2>methodical in things like this, and it's important to note

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 2>that mister Jones has denied the charges and we do

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<v Speaker 2>live in a system where someone is innocent until proven guilty,

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:54.960
<v Speaker 2>no matter how much rage there may be on the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>That is an important principle of our laws. I will

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<v Speaker 2>not say any more about this case is resolved one

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<v Speaker 2>way or the other for obvious reasons. We talk a

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<v Speaker 2>lot about councils getting outside of their lane and often

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 2>trying to veer into solving problems like the Middle East. Well,

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:16.440
<v Speaker 2>there has been a council that's actually done the right thing.

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<v Speaker 2>As we know. There are plenty of people who have

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<v Speaker 2>attempted to take to the streets in support of the

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 2>terrorist organization has Balah of but if you change the

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:27.359
<v Speaker 2>colors then it's not quite the symbol. But we know

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:31.200
<v Speaker 2>the point. There was also an attempt by the Cumberland

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<v Speaker 2>Council or some of its councilors to fly the Lebanese

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 2>flag for no other reason than to show support for

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 2>the Lebanese community. And of course the Lebanese community is

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 2>not the Hesbela community, Let's make that nice and clear.

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 2>But still the plan was that they would be flying

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 2>the flag at the front of their council chambers. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pleased to say there are enough people on the

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 2>council who decided not to do that, meaning for once

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:56.000
<v Speaker 2>a council actually decided the only flag that you need

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 2>out the front is the Australian flag, but of course

0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 2>we fly many others for all the obvious reasons. I

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 2>hope you didn't watch the Mike Tyson Jake Paul fight,

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 2>but if he did on Netflix, you will be just

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 2>as igh watered as the rest of the world watching it. Surprise, surprise,

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 2>the twenty seven year old beat the fifty six year old.

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:19.479
<v Speaker 2>But amazingly, Mike Tyson has come out and said one

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 2>of the reasons why he had great health fears in

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 2>the training and then in the fight as well, is

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 2>that he has announced that there's no way that he

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 2>should have been there. Why Because he has announced that

0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 2>he has been dealing with AIDS HIV. Why he got

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 2>in there in the first place, of course, is all

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 2>about money. He gets twenty million dollars, But what a

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 2>stupid thing to put himself through, and why anyone promoted

0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 2>it knowing potentially that fact is extraordinary? Speaking of the fights,

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 2>who couldn't have a look at Donald Trump turning up

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 2>at Madison Square Garden. He was cheered on by many

0:29:57.320 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 2>in the crowd. What a murderer's row he had around

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 2>him too, of rock stars of the right, including new

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 2>arrivals to the team of RFK. Even Dan Bongina was there,

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:09.720
<v Speaker 2>along with Kid Rock and plenty of others. Perhaps the

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 2>nerdiest person there was the Speaker of the house, looking

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 2>like he pretended to enjoy the UFC. But what about

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 2>one of the greatest fighters of all time? After winning

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 2>and doing the Trump dance, he gave the President elect

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 2>the championship belt while he's living it up in the

0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 2>United States. The outgoing ambassador to Australia from the United States,

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Carolyn Kennedy, yes of the same family as RFK, was

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<v Speaker 2>giving a speech today at the National Press Club about

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<v Speaker 2>how awesome Australia is and how important it is to

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<v Speaker 2>the United States.

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<v Speaker 7>And after two and a half years, I think I

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<v Speaker 7>have an answer, and I'm still surprised that Australia doesn't

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 7>always appreciate how important it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. Of course, nice pleasantry extended to many ambassadors, and

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 2>it's all sort of a nice little moment of we

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 2>love America, America loves ask grateful and fair enough, But

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 2>what about some of the questions where this was their

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 2>chance part of the Canberra bubble, the bubble inside the bubble,

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 2>at the most bubbly event on the home ground of

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 2>home grounds, which is the National Press Club, to ask

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 2>questions of an ambassador, who, of course would have to

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 2>straight bout all of them. But they got to pretend

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 2>they were part of the Washington establishment, and they prove

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<v Speaker 2>they'd be just as bad there as they are here.

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<v Speaker 10>Of The re election of Donald Trump shows that the

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<v Speaker 10>trend of American first icelationism is not a accident at once,

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 10>of it's increasingly becoming a trend. To what extent should

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<v Speaker 10>American allies in the region, including Australia, start preparing for

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<v Speaker 10>a world without America.

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<v Speaker 11>Donald Trump's nominee for Directive National Intelligence, Telsey Gabbard, is

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<v Speaker 11>facing Democratic allegations that she's working for Russia and poses

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<v Speaker 11>a threat to US national intelligence.

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<v Speaker 12>Will America be ready to elect a female president in

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<v Speaker 12>your lifetime?

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<v Speaker 5>I not.

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<v Speaker 12>In your speech, you spoke about the value of vaccines

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<v Speaker 12>for population health and things like that. Obviously your cousin

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 12>is being accused of spreading vaccine skepticism.

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<v Speaker 1>What does it say about America today?

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think the Trump administration could be paving the

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<v Speaker 4>way to allow Israel to annex the West Bank?

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<v Speaker 13>Do you have any thoughts about whether Kevin Rudd's position

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<v Speaker 13>in Washington is tenable? Can he remain in that position?

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<v Speaker 13>And do you have any advice for Ambassador Rudd as

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<v Speaker 13>to how.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome conduction, what a chummy little club they have where?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, today the biggest story was an inquiry into

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<v Speaker 2>cash three million people who are this close to homelessness.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get straight into it and ing gong for the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the show. Nicholas Rees, Matt Canavan, I know

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:04.719
<v Speaker 2>you love it. Pull your seat for this one's going

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 2>to be worth remembering on a Monday night here on

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<v Speaker 2>Sky News. Thanks for watching. What's that old line from

0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 2>the song you don't know what you got till you

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<v Speaker 2>it's gone well. How we have missed a returning champion.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he ran off, he became the Mayor of Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he won an election while the world was having

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 2>a look at what was happening with Donald Trump. He

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<v Speaker 2>returns as the Lord Mayor of Melbourne. Nicholas Reese is here.

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<v Speaker 2>Congratulations my friend, and welcome home. And more than happy

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<v Speaker 2>to greet him is none other than Matt Canavan, of course,

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 2>sitting by in our nation's capital. Nicholas, congratulations mate, what

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 2>a phenomenal achievement. You had them all against you and

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 2>you swipe them all.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much. Paul Murray.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't tell you how many times when I was

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<v Speaker 4>out in the huftings people would come up to me

0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 4>and say, I've been watching you for years on the

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<v Speaker 4>Paul Murray and we love Paul, and we love you

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<v Speaker 4>and we're going to be inviting for you.

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<v Speaker 1>So there you have it. You are my Joe Rogan mate.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't thank you enough. Matt. I hope you feel

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 1>the same.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm happy to give you the big boy bump here.

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<v Speaker 2>Well done. All right, now, let's now by the way,

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:17.840
<v Speaker 2>we're not you're back. We've been nice. We've done the

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 2>cuddles back to normal now, okay, but remember this bloke

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Labor didn't even send preferences his way, so it was

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 2>a new Nicholas Ree sitting in front of us here.

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:29.359
<v Speaker 2>Let's all find it out together. Latest polls show Prime

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 2>minister government world of trouble. But more importantly, Matt, it

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 2>shows that nothing is changing the subject and surprise, surprise,

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, the attempt when it comes to university fees

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:43.319
<v Speaker 2>doesn't move the needle. I wouldn't imagine that some very

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<v Speaker 2>small bugg arising around inquiry into cash is going to

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<v Speaker 2>do the same either. Why do you think it's stuck

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<v Speaker 2>where it's stuck for the government?

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<v Speaker 14>Well, can I first welcome Nicholas back too? If I

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 14>missed your mates, great to have you back. I was

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:59.280
<v Speaker 14>hoping he was coming back just to celebrate Donald Trump's reelection.

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<v Speaker 14>That's a great achievement from Nick down there in Melbourne too.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 14>Look, I think the issue, Paul, is that the government

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<v Speaker 14>has not really got a credible, coherent economic plan or

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:18.440
<v Speaker 14>agenda for the country. I don't think any amount of

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:24.280
<v Speaker 14>cash splashes, debt ride offs or social media youth bans

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 14>are going.

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<v Speaker 1>To resuscitate this government.

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<v Speaker 14>People understand that there is a serious crisis in our

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:35.440
<v Speaker 14>nation right now. Our living standards have fallen by more

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<v Speaker 14>than any other country in the world since the end

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<v Speaker 14>of COVID. They're down about eight percent of real disposable

0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:43.760
<v Speaker 14>income levels of down about eight percent.

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<v Speaker 1>They've grown in the US while ours have been falling.

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<v Speaker 1>And people get that.

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<v Speaker 14>And so when you've got serious problems in front of

0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:55.920
<v Speaker 14>you as a demand, a hunger for serious solutions, and

0:35:56.080 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 14>all of these trinkets and cheap sales trips like it's

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:02.480
<v Speaker 14>like a closing down sale. You know, there's another set

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:05.640
<v Speaker 14>of stake knives for you. It's just not going to

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:08.319
<v Speaker 14>cut it with people. And so I think if the

0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:10.920
<v Speaker 14>government has a survival instinct in them, they'll use the

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:13.839
<v Speaker 14>Christmas break to actually come up with a proper plan,

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<v Speaker 14>not just more cash handouts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, Nick, it's this thing again. You focused

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:19.799
<v Speaker 2>on your own future. But now let's start to turn

0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:22.799
<v Speaker 2>their attention to the old team. Why is it just

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 2>not moving for them? Because it's not like there's not

0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 2>parts of the media that aren't willing to move on.

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:29.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, every sort of let's change the subject is

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 2>given the royal treatment. But I think a little bit

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:34.400
<v Speaker 2>like in the United States, it doesn't matter what the

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:37.360
<v Speaker 2>message is out of camera, the reality of people's lives

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 2>can't You can't spin it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, look, I think it's a very challenging

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:47.759
<v Speaker 4>time to be an incumbent political party in government. You

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:50.759
<v Speaker 4>look what happened in the UK elections, You look what's

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 4>just happened in the US. Even local government elections here

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:57.360
<v Speaker 4>in Victoria saw a huge turnover. Like I had a

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 4>very very hard fought victory. I'm going to tell you

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 4>to hang on. So it's a really hard time to

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:04.480
<v Speaker 4>be in government. I think that's had a lot to

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 4>do with inflation and the impact that's having on cost

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:10.799
<v Speaker 4>of living and people's sense of how they're going in life.

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 4>And again that's not confined to Australia. It's the same

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 4>story most of the advanced world. I do think Albanize

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:20.480
<v Speaker 4>has got quite a few things going from there. And

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 4>you know, I was Matt Canavan, I wouldn't be complacent.

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 4>He sounded pretty complacent to me, like he's not going

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:29.720
<v Speaker 4>post to victory or something. But Albanese he's a pretty

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:33.320
<v Speaker 4>wily political operator's pretty tough campaigner, and he's got plenty

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:34.120
<v Speaker 4>of things to sell.

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:34.319
<v Speaker 1>Matt.

0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:37.479
<v Speaker 4>I mean, let's not forget he has halved inflation since

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:40.839
<v Speaker 4>coming to office, over a million jobs generated. He's out

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:43.760
<v Speaker 4>there with his new slogan building Australia's future, which obviously

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:46.240
<v Speaker 4>goes to his track record in infrastructure.

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:47.520
<v Speaker 1>So I think the.

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:50.279
<v Speaker 4>Legend's going to be pretty pretty pretty tight, pretty hard

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 4>for It wasn't, but I wouldn't be complacent.

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:54.719
<v Speaker 1>Like Matt Matt May.

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Matt wasn't putting the queue in the rack and saying,

0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 2>you know this, this game's over. We're talking about the

0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:02.320
<v Speaker 2>pole six and a big months out from an election.

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:06.239
<v Speaker 14>Matt Well, I wasn't complacent before, But if that is

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 14>the pitch he goes with, I might become a little

0:38:08.040 --> 0:38:10.520
<v Speaker 14>bit complacent because basically what you're saying, Nick, is that

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:13.320
<v Speaker 14>all the PM has to do is tell all Australians

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:15.000
<v Speaker 14>that they've never had it so good and they should

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:17.680
<v Speaker 14>bout out in front of him, and Genu inflected his greatness.

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:20.400
<v Speaker 14>I mean, we've got the highest inflation that developed world,

0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:23.719
<v Speaker 14>so we've got this massive drop in living stands, real

0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:26.839
<v Speaker 14>wages are cratering, our productivity has fallen six percent since

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 14>this government's.

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Been in power, the highest on record.

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:31.800
<v Speaker 14>A young people can't afford a home because the government

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:34.879
<v Speaker 14>can't seem to control our border, letting in a huge

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 14>number of people. It's just brought Christ's after roll in

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:40.440
<v Speaker 14>Christis and the government. So this week we've got fortnite

0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 14>before Christmas. It could be a last sitting week before

0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 14>the election. The main focus of the government is to

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:47.360
<v Speaker 14>ban YouTube for kids under sixty.

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:48.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's time we got real.

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 14>I mean, just a few months ago the government banned

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:53.400
<v Speaker 14>a billion dollar coal gold mine because of a mythical

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:55.359
<v Speaker 14>b It's not even a real be it's a made

0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:58.359
<v Speaker 14>up beat and they banned it because of that. I mean,

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:01.040
<v Speaker 14>what is going on in this country? We got to

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:04.760
<v Speaker 14>start focusing on the priorities, which is people's real lives.

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 1>They're real budgets that are getting crushed right now.

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:09.839
<v Speaker 2>So, Nicholas, I mean back to where we were right

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:11.840
<v Speaker 2>which was I spent a lot of time at the

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 2>start of the show talking about this homelessness report. Three

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:18.319
<v Speaker 2>million people are right on the edge. Okay, we know

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:19.719
<v Speaker 2>that there are plenty of people that you have to

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:21.359
<v Speaker 2>deal with in the city of Melbourne, plenty of people

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 2>in regional Queensland as well, who are in a world

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 2>of trouble where they're still working but I don't have

0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:29.880
<v Speaker 2>enough money for rent and they might be living in

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:33.920
<v Speaker 2>their car, living in their tent today, three million people

0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 2>on the edge. This government today did not talk about

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:41.120
<v Speaker 2>that issue, did not respond to that issue, did not

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:44.239
<v Speaker 2>find a billion dollars off budget to help any of

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 2>those people. Instead, it's censoring the Internet and launching reviews

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 2>into whether cash will or won't be available at a

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:55.359
<v Speaker 2>service station in twenty twenty six. I think again, those

0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:57.719
<v Speaker 2>three million people have every right to vote. But those

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:01.400
<v Speaker 2>three million people know other family members, meaning the total

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:03.759
<v Speaker 2>number of people that are exposed to this is a

0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:06.200
<v Speaker 2>lot more than three million people. And I think that

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 2>that is a decisive figure in your political future. And

0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:12.840
<v Speaker 2>if this bloke you're spending more money on ads, flogging

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:16.319
<v Speaker 2>two little too late tax cuts and building futures made

0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 2>all of this sort of garbage, well I would cancel

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:21.279
<v Speaker 2>every dollar of that and I would throw it at

0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:26.080
<v Speaker 2>making sure people have somewhere to live. Yeah.

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:28.240
<v Speaker 4>Look, I think housing is going to be a major

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:31.719
<v Speaker 4>issue at the next election. Probably we haven't seen housing

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 4>such a irrelevant.

0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Issue in a long, long time.

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:38.759
<v Speaker 4>I mean, we heard a lot of negativity from matter

0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:42.320
<v Speaker 4>moment ago, didn't hear much in the way of positive plans,

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:45.760
<v Speaker 4>and that's a challenge to labor as well. I agree

0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:47.520
<v Speaker 4>with Matt. They can't just write on the records. They've

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:50.080
<v Speaker 4>really got to go to the election was a positive

0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:53.880
<v Speaker 4>plan and show people the practical things they will do

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:56.680
<v Speaker 4>to make people's life, you know, that little bit better,

0:40:56.719 --> 0:40:59.760
<v Speaker 4>that helping hand that people are looking for. And housing's

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:02.319
<v Speaker 4>going to be an absolute key area where I'd be

0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 4>hoping to see more from labor. I mean, I think

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:09.000
<v Speaker 4>in this country there's a complex combination of factors feeding

0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 4>into housing unaffordability. I mean, some of it is construction costs,

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:16.360
<v Speaker 4>some of it is obviously interest rates. I think the

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:21.040
<v Speaker 4>fact that housing has become an investment immigrategory in Australia

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:23.359
<v Speaker 4>has been a problem as well. Yeah, yeah, I do

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:25.840
<v Speaker 4>think the fact that we've had a million growth and

0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:28.479
<v Speaker 4>not enough new how I'm speaking built is a factor. Paul,

0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:30.360
<v Speaker 4>I agree with you in part of it. So the

0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:31.799
<v Speaker 4>question that the election is going to be well, what

0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 4>are you going to do about it? And that's the

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:36.239
<v Speaker 4>real challenge for labor. But I am confident that I

0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:38.839
<v Speaker 4>think Albani is in labor will go forward with.

0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:40.600
<v Speaker 1>A strong plan. Like you just look at that slogan.

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:42.360
<v Speaker 4>They've got it there and it's more than a slogan

0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:45.720
<v Speaker 4>building Australia's future. I think that's exactly where Albanizi should

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:46.360
<v Speaker 4>be going on housing.

0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:49.919
<v Speaker 2>But does anyone believe this building Australia's future stuff? Again,

0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 2>you have a wonderful slogan and you've got to have

0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 2>some and I've got this feeling. And again politicians will

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:56.000
<v Speaker 2>stand up and here's the slogan, and this is this

0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:59.840
<v Speaker 2>billion and this like until people see something change, some

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:03.680
<v Speaker 2>thing that state governments have been devilishly good at, which

0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:05.840
<v Speaker 2>is and it's worked for multiple state governments getting re

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:08.239
<v Speaker 2>elected who don't deserve it right, which is to basically

0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 2>announce a plan for some giant construction site, make sure

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:14.359
<v Speaker 2>that you put the bunting up around it, even though

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:17.040
<v Speaker 2>they haven't even done the architects plan. So people might

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:21.080
<v Speaker 2>think something's happening, but the reality is when three million

0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:25.160
<v Speaker 2>people are this close, this close, you know there's always

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:28.560
<v Speaker 2>been poverty, But that is a red light that if

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 2>there is a shock at the election, it's not a

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:35.279
<v Speaker 2>bread crumb. It's a giant bakery of a clue to

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:37.839
<v Speaker 2>where we might be heading in this country.

0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 14>I think we're heading potentially for an economic crisis and

0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:45.360
<v Speaker 14>Earth we turn things around pretty quickly. And look, the

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:50.320
<v Speaker 14>slogans are fine, you need to try and succinctly explain

0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 14>your position to people. The problem with the building Australia's

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:55.120
<v Speaker 14>future is there's not a lot of meat on the

0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:57.800
<v Speaker 14>bone and the stuff that is there is failing before

0:42:57.800 --> 0:43:00.760
<v Speaker 14>our eyes. And so most of that building Australia's future

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:04.000
<v Speaker 14>is around this so called energy transition which is only

0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 14>delivered higher power prices for Australia promises about mythical hydrogen

0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:11.319
<v Speaker 14>jobs which have not and are not turning up anytime soon.

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:13.680
<v Speaker 14>And so yes, I agree with Nick. We've got to

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:15.319
<v Speaker 14>come up with our own plans. I've seen this on show,

0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:18.040
<v Speaker 14>on this show many times. We've got a good start

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:22.200
<v Speaker 14>there with the plans to cut government spending by ninety

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:25.720
<v Speaker 14>billion dollars, taking off pressure off inflation, bringing prices down.

0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:29.440
<v Speaker 14>We've got plans to remove the ridiculous and out of

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:32.399
<v Speaker 14>date nuclear energy bands so we can build reliable power

0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 14>supplies that can keep our manufacturing jobs in this country,

0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:38.040
<v Speaker 14>and we've got a plan to cut migration that take

0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:40.400
<v Speaker 14>pressure off housing so a young people can put a home.

0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:44.440
<v Speaker 14>There's a lot more to do, of course, but I

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 14>think if the problem for this government is their current

0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 14>plans are clearly failing.

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:51.879
<v Speaker 1>So unless they pivot here and.

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:53.919
<v Speaker 14>Get rid of the barnacle so to speak that John

0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:56.839
<v Speaker 14>Howard was an expert at doing, I really think they're

0:43:56.880 --> 0:43:58.799
<v Speaker 14>going to struggle because how can you go to the

0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 14>electorate with a bunch of reheated microwave plans from twenty

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:05.400
<v Speaker 14>twenty two that have clearly not worked.

0:44:05.719 --> 0:44:07.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, Well, plenty to talk about it in

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:09.040
<v Speaker 2>the next of a while, including I know that Matt

0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:10.480
<v Speaker 2>would just like to talk Trump for the rest of it.

0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:13.760
<v Speaker 2>We'll go in and around that. And obviously Nick's plans

0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:18.239
<v Speaker 2>for Melbourne, including a female statue led recovery, we know

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:20.359
<v Speaker 2>that's part of the plan as well. Quick break back

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:22.359
<v Speaker 2>with more plenty to talk about here on Port Murray Live.

0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Here it'll the end of the show and the late

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:31.759
<v Speaker 2>debate is up moments from now. Thank you to Mike

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:34.239
<v Speaker 2>and a bunch of other emailers who were clarified and

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:37.360
<v Speaker 2>have sent me the full quotes about Mike Tyson, No,

0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:40.200
<v Speaker 2>he does not have AIDS instead. However, he did actually

0:44:40.239 --> 0:44:42.120
<v Speaker 2>have six with people who were HIV positive but did

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:44.399
<v Speaker 2>not end up having AIDS. But again it was part

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:47.160
<v Speaker 2>of the coverage about his fitness when it came to

0:44:47.280 --> 0:44:49.640
<v Speaker 2>that fight, which thankfully it might be happening again. But

0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:51.799
<v Speaker 2>he's twenty minute dollars. Richard, all right, let's get into

0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 2>it again with Nicholas Reess Cary out A champ re

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:57.000
<v Speaker 2>elected as the mayor of Melbourne in his own right.

0:44:57.040 --> 0:44:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Remember just mention our name, no parking signs for anyone,

0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:03.279
<v Speaker 2>and the wonderful Matt Canavan. Nicholas, all right, we've heard

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:06.319
<v Speaker 2>the pitch before, but now it's action time. In a

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:08.960
<v Speaker 2>year's time, how does Melbourne look the better for you

0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:09.800
<v Speaker 2>being its boss?

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:13.399
<v Speaker 1>Well, thanks, Paul.

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:15.360
<v Speaker 4>Well I've said the most pressing priority as I'll have

0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:18.640
<v Speaker 4>as Lord Mayor is city safety and city cleanliness. So

0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:23.240
<v Speaker 4>rolling out new city safety offices, very visible safety presence

0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:27.240
<v Speaker 4>on the streets, also doubling the number of CCTV cameras

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:31.759
<v Speaker 4>around the city that angel eye in the sky. I'm

0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 4>also going to be having a massive overhaul of cleaning,

0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:37.640
<v Speaker 4>with twenty four hours a day seven day a week

0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:41.160
<v Speaker 4>cleaning services, helping with cost of leaving, putting a freeze

0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:44.839
<v Speaker 4>on rates, putting doward pressure on power prices.

0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Through a bulk purchasing scheme.

0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:47.880
<v Speaker 4>May you just two dollars to go to the local

0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 4>pool free pet red sho.

0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:51.239
<v Speaker 1>I've just looked across.

0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:53.239
<v Speaker 4>All the things, the little things we do that touch

0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 4>people's lives, and said, how can I save people a

0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:56.480
<v Speaker 4>few dollars there?

0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:57.759
<v Speaker 1>Just knowing it all adds up?

0:45:57.840 --> 0:46:03.520
<v Speaker 4>So a cleaner, safer, greener, healthier.

0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:05.319
<v Speaker 1>More prosperous Melbourne. That's what you'll see in a year

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:05.719
<v Speaker 1>from now.

0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Well done? All right, now, Matt, what about the coal

0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 2>industry coming out today and saying, hey, but before we

0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:12.759
<v Speaker 2>all move on here, there is a future here. There

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:15.799
<v Speaker 2>is a future for it in our energy system and

0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:18.080
<v Speaker 2>also as a way of making sure that we don't

0:46:18.120 --> 0:46:19.759
<v Speaker 2>end up shooting ourselves in the foot in the race

0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:20.600
<v Speaker 2>to renewables.

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:24.640
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, I'll of course get the coal, Paul, But I

0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 14>just want to say it, that's a great agenda of Nick.

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:29.480
<v Speaker 14>It sounds like lower taxes, cracked down crime. He might

0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:32.160
<v Speaker 14>have been he might have been looking at Donald Trump's

0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:37.920
<v Speaker 14>homework over there. Yeah, I might move there, we might

0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:40.479
<v Speaker 14>lose all these Queen's Landers back down there. Mate, they've

0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:41.080
<v Speaker 14>turned out.

0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Magnetic Paulish City. Matt. We are very welcome here, very

0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:48.440
<v Speaker 1>welcome here. It's a lovely I was ready. It's a

0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:51.000
<v Speaker 1>shame with Dan Andrews. It's a shame what Dan Andrews

0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 1>did to it. So all power to you. It's a

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:53.480
<v Speaker 1>it's a beautiful city.

0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:55.200
<v Speaker 4>But I mean, I've got to tell you, I was

0:46:55.239 --> 0:46:58.680
<v Speaker 4>reading these, reading these news reports of all these Americans

0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:00.680
<v Speaker 4>who are saying they were going to move to Canada

0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:02.640
<v Speaker 4>after a Donald Trump's victory, and.

0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:05.360
<v Speaker 1>Of course I was saying, they'll be very welcome, very welcome,

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 1>and you'll be welcome to Matt. He'll be welcome to Matt.

0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Let's I think Canada.

0:47:11.239 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 14>Canada is not going to be a left wing respite

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:15.160
<v Speaker 14>for too much longer, I think for those poor souls.

0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:18.720
<v Speaker 14>But but yes, now on to Cole Paul on Cole, well, look,

0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:21.759
<v Speaker 14>I mean everything has changed really in the world the

0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 14>last few weeks, and finally we've got people out here

0:47:24.160 --> 0:47:27.000
<v Speaker 14>belling the cat that if we if we want to

0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:28.920
<v Speaker 14>keep cheap power in this country, we've got to use

0:47:28.920 --> 0:47:29.880
<v Speaker 14>all our natural resources.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to use more gas.

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<v Speaker 14>But the simple fact is we do not have the

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<v Speaker 14>affordable gas like the United States have. We do have

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<v Speaker 14>lots of cheap and plentiful coal those So today we've

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<v Speaker 14>had Glen call BHP. Even if all companies come out

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<v Speaker 14>and raise this warning, and if we don't get energy

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<v Speaker 14>prices down, we're going to lose a lot of manufacturing

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<v Speaker 14>businesses and not just a China to a rejuvenated energy

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<v Speaker 14>rich Trump led America too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we don't forget also part of the policies, there

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<v Speaker 2>is a whole use of tax policies as well on

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<v Speaker 2>top of cheap energy. All right, do appreciate it. Nick,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll play again very soon. In no doubt you'll have

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<v Speaker 2>plenty to say in the future about cole gas, renewables

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<v Speaker 2>and everything else. Again, congratulations mate, really proud of You're

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<v Speaker 2>well done, Matt. Just quely before we go. Since of

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<v Speaker 2>the Internet, it looks like they're at least one vote short,

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<v Speaker 2>even if they're able to somehow get Van and Thorpe.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think this thing dies and when does it die?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 14>Look, and I thank all the posse out there watching.

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<v Speaker 14>Paul at done a remarkable job on social media. We

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<v Speaker 14>have delivered at this stage enough votes to the clear

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<v Speaker 14>votes to stop this ministry of truth being established. But

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<v Speaker 14>you can't count your chickens still. The votes are tally,

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<v Speaker 14>so we've got to keep the pressure up. But again,

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<v Speaker 14>as many votes as we can. I think it needs

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<v Speaker 14>to be defeated, and defeated massively, so there's never this

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<v Speaker 14>terrible idea never arises again.

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<v Speaker 2>Bloody thanks, Lad's to appreciate it. We'll see you all

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<v Speaker 2>again very soon. Right, that's our show for tonight, the

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<v Speaker 2>Late Debates standing by now. I was watching their prep before.

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<v Speaker 2>They're all standing around a monitor studying something like the

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<v Speaker 2>Zabruta film. Don't know what I was, but we'll all

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<v Speaker 2>find out together shortly. See tomorrow