Speaker 1: From the sky in center.
Speaker 2: This is Paul Murray Live. Indeed censoring the Internet. Are
Speaker 2: we days away from it being killed in the Senate.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you more about what I know tonight. Of course,
Speaker 2: there's lots of other things to talk about. While Airbus
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Speaker 2: a world of trouble and the numbers are not moving.
Speaker 2: Of course, you know Allen Jones was arrested and charged
Speaker 2: today and Nicholas Rees, the mayor of Melbourne freshly re elected.
Speaker 2: He will be on the show tonight, and not just
Speaker 2: as a guest. He's here for the full back and
Speaker 2: forth with Matt Canavan, debated at its best always here
Speaker 2: on Polari Life. But first let's focus on a story
Speaker 2: that in my mind, has been as impactful as many
Speaker 2: the others we've talked about all year, everything from the
Speaker 2: change of what happened in America to the Queensland election
Speaker 2: and so many other stories in between. But the story
Speaker 2: of little baby Luca has sat with me and I
Speaker 2: know you since we first learned that this beautiful little
Speaker 2: boy who had been attacked by a man who police
Speaker 2: alleged has already left the country, and of course this
Speaker 2: was after boiling water was poured upon him in a park. Well.
Speaker 2: The reason I mentioned this tonight is because I love
Speaker 2: to follow up, especially when it's some good news about
Speaker 2: Australia's bravest little boy. The Quarier Mile today had an
Speaker 2: interview with Baby Luca's parents about his recovery, about how
Speaker 2: he's going, and about his emotional state. And he's obviously
Speaker 2: only very little, but obviously he's deeply traumatized by what
Speaker 2: has taken place. Here are the photos that I want
Speaker 2: to show you on a day where I wanted to
Speaker 2: show you some of the good news. Here of him
Speaker 2: playing with Mum and Dad in the backyard like any
Speaker 2: little bubba does in Queensland and Australia. Each and every
Speaker 2: day he does bear the scars of what happened. Whether
Speaker 2: those scars will be lifelong, we will all find out together.
Speaker 2: But of course the strength that we have for this
Speaker 2: little boy and love for his family is forever. According
Speaker 2: to the article, his mother said that it had taken
Speaker 2: a time for Luca to get over the incident, but
Speaker 2: Luca was on a path to recovery. She says he
Speaker 2: didn't have a bath for like a month when he
Speaker 2: had all the bandages, and when we poured water over
Speaker 2: his head when we had a bath, he started screaming.
Speaker 2: It did take a little while, but and he's still
Speaker 2: a little weary of people, and he's become a little
Speaker 2: bit shy. So when we go into a group situation,
Speaker 2: will he'll often hide behind my legs and I'll just
Speaker 2: take a little while for him to warm up to everyone.
Speaker 2: Of course, that is the result of the traumas that
Speaker 2: he has been through. The story, however, gets better from here,
Speaker 2: which is that he's now comfortable having a bath, thankfully,
Speaker 2: and he's getting better with people once he assesses the situation.
Speaker 2: This beautiful little boy whose strength is unbelievable to see,
Speaker 2: and I wish I could show you his smiling little face.
Speaker 2: But because of the quirks of the lord, despite the
Speaker 2: fact that the person who police allege is responsible for
Speaker 2: this has apparently fled the country because he is a youth,
Speaker 2: that of course means that he can't be identified. It's
Speaker 2: his family who have told us about baby Luca, so
Speaker 2: I pass on what they are willing to be made public,
Speaker 2: But sadly they can't show his face, and that's why
Speaker 2: I can't show you his face. And I hope that
Speaker 2: his face has many more smiles since what has taken place,
Speaker 2: and I hope that he has a life that has
Speaker 2: many more smiles to come. His father said he was
Speaker 2: hopeful that his son would have a big future. We
Speaker 2: are definitely optimistic at this point. He already looks better
Speaker 2: than we ever thought. Hopefully by the time he becomes
Speaker 2: a teenager, you won't even be able to see the
Speaker 2: scars anymore. So strength and love to baby Luka, his mum,
Speaker 2: dad and everyone who are around him. Strength and love
Speaker 2: from those that will never be lucky enough to meet him,
Speaker 2: but think about him every day. Now today, Question time back,
Speaker 2: prime minister still overseas, of course, playing world leader, cuddling
Speaker 2: up to lame duck presidents or prime ministers who like him,
Speaker 2: have a very uncertain political future. But there were two
Speaker 2: stories in Canberra today. I think one is an obvious
Speaker 2: one to talk about. The stories were the Federal government
Speaker 2: making some moves about apparently protecting the use of cash
Speaker 2: when you go to certain shops, or a report that
Speaker 2: says there are three million Australian families who are in
Speaker 2: danger of homelessness, which one do you reckon? The media
Speaker 2: talked about.
Speaker 3: Today, retailers selling groceries, fuel and other essential supplies will
Speaker 3: be forced to accept cash under a plan to help
Speaker 3: those who haven't made the digital switch.
Speaker 4: Cash may no longer be king, but the alineazy government
Speaker 4: is moving to keep currency in the economy.
Speaker 2: The government to mandate acceptance of cash to protect the
Speaker 2: one and a half million Australians who use it for
Speaker 2: eighty percent of their purchases. Honestly, the details around this surprise, surprise,
Speaker 2: and nowhere near what the press release said. The Treasurer
Speaker 2: put this one out this morning, the media fell for
Speaker 2: it and by six pm it was a more dominant
Speaker 2: story than three million of our fellow citizens heading towards
Speaker 2: potential homelessness. But as always there's an asterisk, there's a catch.
Speaker 2: This is not going to be the protection of cash
Speaker 2: and telling every retailer in the country that they have
Speaker 2: to accept cash. No, it's a review that will report
Speaker 2: back at the start of next year, and it will
Speaker 2: only affect essential services where supposedly legal tender, which should
Speaker 2: already be accepted by everyone as a way of paying
Speaker 2: for things after all. Otherwise the bits of paper or
Speaker 2: the coin means nothing but have a look after the review,
Speaker 2: and they make the decision and they pass the rules.
Speaker 2: It kicks in on the first of January in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty six. So a story that doesn't really affect everyone
Speaker 2: who wants to use cash, which is a review into
Speaker 2: a system that will not return its findings despite the
Speaker 2: fact that the governments already told us what they want
Speaker 2: the findings to be, will not report back until next year,
Speaker 2: and then it doesn't coming to effect until twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: Hold the presses breaking news meantime, the actual story of
Speaker 2: the day is this story about our fellow Australians. Now.
Speaker 2: I know some people don't want to talk about this
Speaker 2: because it does not have a silver lining. But right now,
Speaker 2: there are three point seven million people in this country
Speaker 2: who have trouble getting a meal each and every day.
Speaker 2: There are people who are lining up for food banks.
Speaker 2: It has got worse and worse, and there are no
Speaker 2: signs of it getting better. There are also a significant
Speaker 2: number of people who are living right on the edge
Speaker 2: right now, and if they're not directly homeless, they're living
Speaker 2: in things like tents and cars. These are people who
Speaker 2: have jobs. These are people who go to work, but
Speaker 2: they don't have enough money to pay for somewhere to live.
Speaker 2: A report was released today by Homelessness Australia and I
Speaker 2: think this should have got much more attention than the
Speaker 2: government trying to talk about anything but it's bad economic record.
Speaker 2: I'll read from the ABC here the rising cost of
Speaker 2: living and rates of rental stress have left about three
Speaker 2: minion Australians at risk of homelessness. That's more than a
Speaker 2: sixty percent increase in less than ten years. A state
Speaker 2: by state breakdown has found that Queensland in Victoria, they
Speaker 2: are the hardest hit.
Speaker 5: Here.
Speaker 2: In Victoria, nine hundred and eighty seven thousand people are
Speaker 2: at risk of losing their home. According to this report,
Speaker 2: the state has seen twenty three percent increase in rental stress.
Speaker 2: Put simply, if you are lucky enough to have a
Speaker 2: rental property. The increases in the rental property mean that
Speaker 2: people who have not seen any significant wage rises yet
Speaker 2: are still having to find extra money for all of
Speaker 2: those extra things that we've been talking about for the
Speaker 2: past couple of years. Means they may not be able
Speaker 2: to pay their rent. If they can't pay their rent,
Speaker 2: they'll get booted out. And of course we know there
Speaker 2: are so few properties that are actually available right now.
Speaker 2: This story, to me is way more important than a
Speaker 2: review that reports back next year with consequences of twenty
Speaker 2: twenty six and not for cash to be available everywhere
Speaker 2: or for it to be mandated, it must be accepted.
Speaker 2: None are only for essential services, and I don't think
Speaker 2: that there's any plan anytime soon for service stations or
Speaker 2: supermarkets to not be accepting cash. So it's a review
Speaker 2: into something that isn't changing with a promise of it
Speaker 2: not changing in twenty twenty six, But between now in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six now in twenty twenty six, three million
Speaker 2: people are right on the line, right on the line.
Speaker 2: The report's author and CEO from Homelessness Australia spoke to
Speaker 2: the ABC ahead of the release of this report today
Speaker 2: and Cape Colvin said that people who could have afforded
Speaker 2: private rentals just a few years ago in our resorting
Speaker 2: to CouchSurfing, sleeping in cars or pitching tents. Now there
Speaker 2: is something that the federal government could do in this situation,
Speaker 2: but of course they have no interest in doing that,
Speaker 2: and that is reducing the number of people that we
Speaker 2: bring into the country each and every year now, while
Speaker 2: Australia has a skill shortage, that is in part because
Speaker 2: generations of Australian politicians have shamed kids from picking up
Speaker 2: a hammer for going to tafe instead. From King Beasley
Speaker 2: right through to Anthony Albernezi as labor leaders, the preference
Speaker 2: has been go to university, Go to university, you must
Speaker 2: go to university. Well, there's a story about that as
Speaker 2: well at a moment or two's time. But the reality
Speaker 2: is is that while this Prime Minister told us that
Speaker 2: he was going to cut immigration, he told us that
Speaker 2: in December of last year, he has failed to deliver
Speaker 2: on that promise. In fact, the numbers by any standard
Speaker 2: are exactly where they were twelve months ago, and exactly
Speaker 2: where they were twelve months before that. We are in
Speaker 2: a world of pain at the moment when it comes
Speaker 2: to migration, and he is becoming to become a political
Speaker 2: issue now again for those that are half paying attention,
Speaker 2: for those that are getting ready to run off to
Speaker 2: the umpire, for those that are going to complain that
Speaker 2: somehow this is some sort of racist dog whistle garbage
Speaker 2: that when we keep bringing in hundreds of thousands of
Speaker 2: people and more than a million people since this government
Speaker 2: came to power. That is a million people that need
Speaker 2: to live somewhere. That's a million people who compete with
Speaker 2: the already struggling number of people for rental places. That
Speaker 2: is a million people who are competing with those that
Speaker 2: are struggling to pay for their first or family home.
Speaker 2: That is why immigration needs to be discussed, because if
Speaker 2: we have a system where three million existing Australians are
Speaker 2: this close to being homeless, and we are adding more
Speaker 2: and more people for them to compete with when it
Speaker 2: comes to rental properties, we are going to have more
Speaker 2: people homeless in this country. But as late as last weekend,
Speaker 2: Lefty Laura Tingle was writing in the ABC in the
Speaker 2: Financial Review that we need to have a mature conversation,
Speaker 2: a sensible conversation about migration. This, of course, is the
Speaker 2: lady who thinks that as a result of the issues
Speaker 2: that have arised because of the problems of too many
Speaker 2: people coming into the country too quickly, that apparently we
Speaker 2: were going to turn on foreign looking people if they
Speaker 2: were trying to buy a home.
Speaker 6: For a major political university saying, as Nicky says, you know,
Speaker 6: everything that's going wrong in this country is because of migrants.
Speaker 6: And you know, as a certain flash of people turning
Speaker 6: up to try to rent a property or at an
Speaker 6: auction and they look a bit different. What have you
Speaker 6: defined different as basically has given them license to be abused?
Speaker 2: Oh no, but we should have a sensible conversation. That's
Speaker 2: her starting point, a sensible conversation about migration. Australia has
Speaker 2: too many people coming to the country while too many
Speaker 2: people living in the country are struggling. The federal government
Speaker 2: is in a position to try to help those people.
Speaker 2: But literally they are spending twice as much money as
Speaker 2: they give to people like food Bank on advertisements to
Speaker 2: make you think that they are doing anything about cost
Speaker 2: of living. Saving their own political backside is what they
Speaker 2: spend taxpayers money on. Otherwise, it's up to charities to
Speaker 2: take care of those who are right on the line
Speaker 2: three million people. I ask you, what was the lead
Speaker 2: story out of Canberra today. Meantime, while the Prime Minister
Speaker 2: again is faffing about with world leaders, including again the
Speaker 2: president who was a Lane Duk president, these meetings are
Speaker 2: useless until, of course Donald Trump turns up. Well, you
Speaker 2: may remember that there was a little thoot bubble from
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister when he was foe launching his election campaign,
Speaker 2: which he has already told us is going to be
Speaker 2: in May of next year. It was an attempt to
Speaker 2: change the conversation from the relentless negative publicity about airbas Albo,
Speaker 2: the relentless failures of his government to actually deal with
Speaker 2: cost of living. Remember, while they say there's a tax
Speaker 2: cut for everyone, it was too little, it was too late. Also,
Speaker 2: there's been twelve of interest rate rises on their watch,
Speaker 2: in part because of the way that they are running
Speaker 2: the economy. But there was a multi billion dollar promise
Speaker 2: which was made at that launch, which was that Anthony
Speaker 2: Abernezi and us the taxpayer were going to wipe student debt,
Speaker 2: not all of it, but a very significant amount of it.
Speaker 2: Here he is announcing the policy a re elected Labor
Speaker 2: government will take twenty percent off student debt for everyone
Speaker 2: who has won. Now, remember I've spoken about this before.
Speaker 2: The overall amount of debt that is owed by people
Speaker 2: who have gone to university but have not paid it
Speaker 2: back yet. The fees to the Australian tax pase eighty
Speaker 2: eight zero b four billion dollars. The promise that's been
Speaker 2: made by the Prime Minister. It's his second swipe at
Speaker 2: this policy is roughly about ten billion dollars. Now, remember,
Speaker 2: three million people in this country are right on the
Speaker 2: line of homelessness. Where would you be spending ten billion dollars.
Speaker 2: Of course, the Prime Minister is doing this not to
Speaker 2: help with the cost of living, but to take on
Speaker 2: the Greens because the difference between majority and minority for him,
Speaker 2: most likely at the next election, is whether Greens take
Speaker 2: labor seats. So ten billion dollars is being spent to
Speaker 2: move people who go through the university system, who we
Speaker 2: know are more likely to vote left. Jees, I wonder why,
Speaker 2: and to make sure that they vote Labor not Greens,
Speaker 2: even though if they vote Greens they'll still preference labor. Well,
Speaker 2: guess what. A very significant number of those people who
Speaker 2: are about to have their debt reduced don't live in
Speaker 2: Australia and have no plans on paying back what they
Speaker 2: owe to you and me. Great story, great exclusive. It's
Speaker 2: wiseguy news dot com. Do you should be your homepage?
Speaker 2: Because this was a ripper from them today the digital
Speaker 2: team that twenty percent twenty percent of those that are
Speaker 2: about to get a reduction in the bill, that many
Speaker 2: of them play play and not to pay back. Currently
Speaker 2: are overseas with no plan of paying the money back.
Speaker 2: Almost forty thousand student debtors overseas have an average of
Speaker 2: twenty nine, seven hundred and eighty seven dollars in loans,
Speaker 2: accounting to one point one billion dollars of total debt.
Speaker 2: Scott New spoke to a number of overseas graduates who
Speaker 2: knew they had to continue making the loan repayments but
Speaker 2: said they didn't bother. So again, if the Prime Minister
Speaker 2: wants to stand by the cost of living changes for
Speaker 2: Greens or labor voters at ten billion dollars, about a
Speaker 2: billion dollars worth of that is going to people who
Speaker 2: already live overseas, and many of whom have no plan
Speaker 2: on paying it back. A repeat. This is on a
Speaker 2: night when we all learned three million Australians of this
Speaker 2: close to homelessness. But of course they're not as loud
Speaker 2: on Twitter or social media as many of the student
Speaker 2: activists are. It's a disgraceful example about priorities. It's also
Speaker 2: a disgraceful example about these people trying to change the
Speaker 2: subject from their own mess only to create more of
Speaker 2: a mess when they do it, which is why the
Speaker 2: latest opinion polls again not good for the Prime minister.
Speaker 2: They're getting better for Peter Dutton and the coalition. A
Speaker 2: pole came out today by the Australian Financial Review, done
Speaker 2: by the Freshwater Organization. It shows no change since their
Speaker 2: last poll a few weeks ago. The Liberal National Party
Speaker 2: would win an election fifty one to forty nine, but
Speaker 2: of course it's all about seventy six seats and the
Speaker 2: big as risko I has teld you, was about the Teals.
Speaker 2: If the Teals stay, the Liberals won't get there. If
Speaker 2: the Teals are blown away politically, well, obviously they are
Speaker 2: a chance of forming government. But the worry for the
Speaker 2: Prime Minister is not that he's losing on these numbers.
Speaker 2: The worry for the Prime Minister is that if you
Speaker 2: have a look at the trend of all of the
Speaker 2: polls since the twenty twenty two election, they only had
Speaker 2: in one direction down. Multiple polls are now starting to
Speaker 2: cluster in this scenario where the Labour Party is south
Speaker 2: of fifty percent, only ever so slightly, but still south
Speaker 2: of fifty percent. That's because their primary vote, which is
Speaker 2: four since the last election isn't even a third of
Speaker 2: the country. Remember, as I told you last night, only
Speaker 2: thirty percent of Australians think that we're headed in the
Speaker 2: right direction. Pretty obvious to see which way they're voting.
Speaker 2: If the Liberal Party has a forty primary vote, well
Speaker 2: then they would win a conventional election. I keep mentioning
Speaker 2: the Teals because it is the obvious reason why this
Speaker 2: is not potentially a conventional election. The Greens pretty much
Speaker 2: where they have been, but ever so slightly up. And
Speaker 2: that number that matters is the everyone else. Everyone else
Speaker 2: from the United Australian Party to the Victorian Socialists, your
Speaker 2: local Teal Independent, you're real Independent, or of course Paul
Speaker 2: En Hansen's One Nation. And when it comes to the leaders,
Speaker 2: our old mat Ncholas Reese rejoining the show this evening,
Speaker 2: of course, has talked much about the preferred prime minister role. Well,
Speaker 2: I've spoken about this many times before. Anthony Albanez he
Speaker 2: made lead, but it's only by one point and he
Speaker 2: hasn't even close to breaking fifty. Amazingly, just four percent
Speaker 2: of people are still yet to make up their mind.
Speaker 2: Let's imagine you split that in half. Bad news for
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister and Peter Dutton, who apparently is unelectable,
Speaker 2: would get very close to doing so on the issues.
Speaker 2: And this is what's really important the Labor Party. It
Speaker 2: only leads barely on a few of them. It is
Speaker 2: the environment, jobs and employment, healthcare, family and community, welfare
Speaker 2: and benefits. But roads, infrastructure, housing, cost of living, managing
Speaker 2: the economy, tax and spending, national security, migration and crime
Speaker 2: are all issues which we know are greater priorities than
Speaker 2: many of those that Labor are currently in favor of.
Speaker 2: Certainly are leading on or campaigning on cost of living
Speaker 2: right now. Fascinating to read thirty nine percent of people
Speaker 2: say the Libs just twenty seven percent of people say Labor.
Speaker 2: Also in campad to Day, there was an alleged consequence
Speaker 2: for Lydia Thorpe's carry on which embarrassed herself, her cause,
Speaker 2: and the country when she decided to make a spectacle
Speaker 2: of herself. Of course, when King Charles and Quen Camilla
Speaker 2: were here. I know by talking about her, I am
Speaker 2: feeding the beast. But still it's worth mentioning here because
Speaker 2: she was formally censured by the Senate today for her behavior. Now,
Speaker 2: a censure of the Senate doesn't mean anything, she doesn't
Speaker 2: lose a day's pay. She's not told she's not allowed
Speaker 2: to sit in the Parliament for the next two weeks
Speaker 2: because of course the Labor Party would need her vote. Remember,
Speaker 2: she hasn't said what she's doing when it comes to
Speaker 2: the Misinformation Bill. But the reason why perhaps there should
Speaker 2: be some attention paid to her formerly being told she
Speaker 2: can't sit in the Parliament for at least one day,
Speaker 2: or I would suggest the next two weeks, is because
Speaker 2: of her very attitude despite when she was censured by
Speaker 2: her own colleagues. This is what she did outside of
Speaker 2: parliament today.
Speaker 5: Center motion is like that.
Speaker 7: To me.
Speaker 5: I don't give a damn about censure motion. In fact,
Speaker 5: I'm going to use it for kindling later on in
Speaker 5: the week.
Speaker 2: On our way towards summer. But she's to be starting fires. Okay.
Speaker 2: The other part it was worth talking about was again
Speaker 2: we know how unrepentant she is about these things, and
Speaker 2: that's fine. She can be the worrior that she is.
Speaker 2: But as I've pointed out before, she obviously had a
Speaker 2: fingers crossed when she was giving a legal oath, something
Speaker 2: that if you and I did in the court, that
Speaker 2: would be a problem, but apparently to be signed in
Speaker 2: as a senator with immense power for six years and
Speaker 2: don't forget we still have her after the next election,
Speaker 2: after she was just freshly reelected on Labour preferences green votes.
Speaker 2: That the last election means she's there for six years
Speaker 2: in an institution that apparently she completely hates, in a
Speaker 2: country that she believes is not really the one that
Speaker 2: we live in, because of course this country is her country,
Speaker 2: not our country, and definitely not the kings.
Speaker 5: If the colonizing king were to come to my country again,
Speaker 5: our country, then I'll do it again, and I will
Speaker 5: keep doing it. I swear my allegiance to the real
Speaker 5: sovereign of these lands. First peoples are the real sovereigns.
Speaker 5: I'm here to bring down the colony.
Speaker 2: Interesting though, that she's willing to be paid by the colony.
Speaker 2: She's willing to have the legal protection of walking into
Speaker 2: the Parliament and being able to say whatever she wants
Speaker 2: without any sort of legal repercussions. She's willing to literally
Speaker 2: be paid in money that has the King's face on
Speaker 2: the other side of it. Talk about each way, albow,
Speaker 2: it's every way when it comes to Lydia Thorpe. But
Speaker 2: of course if I say this somehow I'm being racist. No,
Speaker 2: of course not. If she was serious, she would resign.
Speaker 2: She was serious, she would try to live some sort
Speaker 2: of alternative lifestyle with an alternative currency. Or no, she
Speaker 2: wants all of the power of the colony while bringing
Speaker 2: down the colony and being paid with coins that have
Speaker 2: the King's face on it. We will know in the
Speaker 2: next week or so whether the censoring of the Internet
Speaker 2: is going to become law. The Prime Minister and Communications
Speaker 2: Minister have had a couple of cracks at this. They
Speaker 2: call it the misinformation law. I call it censoring the
Speaker 2: Internet because that's the plan. You know what the plan is.
Speaker 2: You know how bad it is. And everyone from the
Speaker 2: Human Rights Organization to the ABC, from church groups through
Speaker 2: to everything that I've told you that this is a
Speaker 2: terrible idea that they are putting in front of us. Again,
Speaker 2: there are plenty of laws that exist about defamation in
Speaker 2: this country. There are plenty of laws that exist about
Speaker 2: inciting violence in this country, and there are serious consequences
Speaker 2: for people who want to pedal in lies. But the
Speaker 2: idea that social media companies will be fined if you
Speaker 2: post something on the Internet that the government deems not
Speaker 2: to be true is well and truly a step too far.
Speaker 2: And it looks like this bill will die a death
Speaker 2: in the Senate because the maths matters. Again, I'm going
Speaker 2: to explain these numbers every night because I want everyone
Speaker 2: to know what is happening here. Now, this vote, if
Speaker 2: it's brought on tonight, would fail, which is why the
Speaker 2: government is trying to string it out for as long
Speaker 2: as possible. I think they're just delaying their pain. But again,
Speaker 2: you need thirty nine votes to pass anything in the Senate.
Speaker 2: If all of the Labor Party, including the President and
Speaker 2: all of the Greens vote, that's thirty six. There are
Speaker 2: five left wing votes on the cross Bench. But the
Speaker 2: problem is David Pocock said no, meaning there's four left.
Speaker 2: Tammy Tyrrell has said no, meaning there's three left. Fadom A.
Speaker 2: Payman has said no meaning there are two left. And
Speaker 2: today Jackie Lamby formally came out and said no, meaning
Speaker 2: that there would be just one left. But how do
Speaker 2: we not just watch Jackie Lamby having all sides of
Speaker 2: an issue here. She knows this thing's going down. She
Speaker 2: knows the concept of censoring the Internet is completely ridiculous,
Speaker 2: not to mention, grossly unpopular and an attack on free speech.
Speaker 2: But try and work out what her logic is for
Speaker 2: voting no. When she was talking this morning here to
Speaker 2: Kenny Heatley.
Speaker 8: When I see social media that's going to police itself,
Speaker 8: I have a problem with that. So I think the
Speaker 8: intent of the bill is not going to be is
Speaker 8: not going to end up the way they want it to.
Speaker 8: So that's a real wober for me. And letting social
Speaker 8: media police itself those platforms, that's half the problem that
Speaker 8: we've got. So really I don't see the point in
Speaker 8: the bloody bill, to be honest with you, it's just
Speaker 8: a waste of time. Seriously, get some work done. Do
Speaker 8: something about the cost of living.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: Is there anything labor could come to you with to
Speaker 3: make it more palatable for you or are you just
Speaker 3: flat out against it?
Speaker 8: No, I'm just pretty much flat out again sting quite frankly,
Speaker 8: Like I said, there's a cost of living crisis out there.
Speaker 8: Get on with it.
Speaker 2: So it doesn't go far enough or it goes too far.
Speaker 2: Of course, that's just about her being able to turn
Speaker 2: around and say no, no, no. Of course of living is
Speaker 2: the focus unless they do what's her suggestion as she
Speaker 2: moved to Private Members Bill, what does she want the
Speaker 2: government to do? Many sides of Jackie Lamby, but let's
Speaker 2: get back to the mats. So there are other members
Speaker 2: of the cross bench, but pretty obviously One Nation United
Speaker 2: Australian Party. They're not going to go there. Dured Rennick's
Speaker 2: not going to go there. So potentially David Van former
Speaker 2: Liberal who says that apparently he's open to all of this,
Speaker 2: and then is of course there's Lydia Thorpe. But even
Speaker 2: then that would be two of the three votes that
Speaker 2: they need. So at this moment, even if they are
Speaker 2: able to get a yes out of Lydia Thorpe, even
Speaker 2: if they're able to get a yes for whatever bizarre
Speaker 2: reason out of the former Liberal, they will still fall
Speaker 2: one vote short. But let's make sure this happens. Freely
Speaker 2: available on the internet is the number for the switchboard
Speaker 2: of Parliament House in Canberra. Feel free to call that
Speaker 2: number tomorrow and feel free to contact the senators who
Speaker 2: still have not said whether they are going to be
Speaker 2: yes or no. Will this thing die by one vote,
Speaker 2: two or three? You can also send an email. All
Speaker 2: you need to do is Go to aph dot gov
Speaker 2: dot au, go to the senator's page, find a contact
Speaker 2: from them. Please be polite, both on the phone and
Speaker 2: in emails with a simple question of are you going
Speaker 2: to vote for or against censoring the Internet? Again, the
Speaker 2: numbers are not there right now, will magically they appear,
Speaker 2: who knows. But let's make sure that we've done everything
Speaker 2: we can to make sure that the case is clear.
Speaker 2: Australians want free speech protected for obviously reasons. The main
Speaker 2: and dominant news story of the day today has involved
Speaker 2: the broadcaster Alan Jones. It's been a difficult day for
Speaker 2: many people as they process all of the information. But
Speaker 2: as you know, he has been arrested this morning at
Speaker 2: his home in Sydney and was charged by police this afternoon.
Speaker 9: Those offenses include eleven charges of aggravated indecent assault where
Speaker 9: the victim was under the authority of the offender, nine
Speaker 9: charges related to assault with active indecency, two charges of
Speaker 9: common assault, and two charges of sexual touching. Police will
Speaker 9: allege these offenses took place between two thousand and one
Speaker 9: and twenty nineteen, involving eight victims. The youngest of those
Speaker 9: victims was seventeen year old when the time, at the
Speaker 9: time when we elites the defense took place.
Speaker 2: Now because the matters have now moved towards charges, and
Speaker 2: that of course means an appearance in court. As time
Speaker 2: will roll on. I'll have nothing more to say about
Speaker 2: all of this other than to obviously note police are
Speaker 2: methodical in things like this, and it's important to note
Speaker 2: that mister Jones has denied the charges and we do
Speaker 2: live in a system where someone is innocent until proven guilty,
Speaker 2: no matter how much rage there may be on the internet.
Speaker 2: That is an important principle of our laws. I will
Speaker 2: not say any more about this case is resolved one
Speaker 2: way or the other for obvious reasons. We talk a
Speaker 2: lot about councils getting outside of their lane and often
Speaker 2: trying to veer into solving problems like the Middle East. Well,
Speaker 2: there has been a council that's actually done the right thing.
Speaker 2: As we know. There are plenty of people who have
Speaker 2: attempted to take to the streets in support of the
Speaker 2: terrorist organization has Balah of but if you change the
Speaker 2: colors then it's not quite the symbol. But we know
Speaker 2: the point. There was also an attempt by the Cumberland
Speaker 2: Council or some of its councilors to fly the Lebanese
Speaker 2: flag for no other reason than to show support for
Speaker 2: the Lebanese community. And of course the Lebanese community is
Speaker 2: not the Hesbela community, Let's make that nice and clear.
Speaker 2: But still the plan was that they would be flying
Speaker 2: the flag at the front of their council chambers. But
Speaker 2: I'm pleased to say there are enough people on the
Speaker 2: council who decided not to do that, meaning for once
Speaker 2: a council actually decided the only flag that you need
Speaker 2: out the front is the Australian flag, but of course
Speaker 2: we fly many others for all the obvious reasons. I
Speaker 2: hope you didn't watch the Mike Tyson Jake Paul fight,
Speaker 2: but if he did on Netflix, you will be just
Speaker 2: as igh watered as the rest of the world watching it. Surprise, surprise,
Speaker 2: the twenty seven year old beat the fifty six year old.
Speaker 2: But amazingly, Mike Tyson has come out and said one
Speaker 2: of the reasons why he had great health fears in
Speaker 2: the training and then in the fight as well, is
Speaker 2: that he has announced that there's no way that he
Speaker 2: should have been there. Why Because he has announced that
Speaker 2: he has been dealing with AIDS HIV. Why he got
Speaker 2: in there in the first place, of course, is all
Speaker 2: about money. He gets twenty million dollars, But what a
Speaker 2: stupid thing to put himself through, and why anyone promoted
Speaker 2: it knowing potentially that fact is extraordinary? Speaking of the fights,
Speaker 2: who couldn't have a look at Donald Trump turning up
Speaker 2: at Madison Square Garden. He was cheered on by many
Speaker 2: in the crowd. What a murderer's row he had around
Speaker 2: him too, of rock stars of the right, including new
Speaker 2: arrivals to the team of RFK. Even Dan Bongina was there,
Speaker 2: along with Kid Rock and plenty of others. Perhaps the
Speaker 2: nerdiest person there was the Speaker of the house, looking
Speaker 2: like he pretended to enjoy the UFC. But what about
Speaker 2: one of the greatest fighters of all time? After winning
Speaker 2: and doing the Trump dance, he gave the President elect
Speaker 2: the championship belt while he's living it up in the
Speaker 2: United States. The outgoing ambassador to Australia from the United States,
Speaker 2: Carolyn Kennedy, yes of the same family as RFK, was
Speaker 2: giving a speech today at the National Press Club about
Speaker 2: how awesome Australia is and how important it is to
Speaker 2: the United States.
Speaker 7: And after two and a half years, I think I
Speaker 7: have an answer, and I'm still surprised that Australia doesn't
Speaker 7: always appreciate how important it is.
Speaker 2: Now. Of course, nice pleasantry extended to many ambassadors, and
Speaker 2: it's all sort of a nice little moment of we
Speaker 2: love America, America loves ask grateful and fair enough, But
Speaker 2: what about some of the questions where this was their
Speaker 2: chance part of the Canberra bubble, the bubble inside the bubble,
Speaker 2: at the most bubbly event on the home ground of
Speaker 2: home grounds, which is the National Press Club, to ask
Speaker 2: questions of an ambassador, who, of course would have to
Speaker 2: straight bout all of them. But they got to pretend
Speaker 2: they were part of the Washington establishment, and they prove
Speaker 2: they'd be just as bad there as they are here.
Speaker 10: Of The re election of Donald Trump shows that the
Speaker 10: trend of American first icelationism is not a accident at once,
Speaker 10: of it's increasingly becoming a trend. To what extent should
Speaker 10: American allies in the region, including Australia, start preparing for
Speaker 10: a world without America.
Speaker 11: Donald Trump's nominee for Directive National Intelligence, Telsey Gabbard, is
Speaker 11: facing Democratic allegations that she's working for Russia and poses
Speaker 11: a threat to US national intelligence.
Speaker 12: Will America be ready to elect a female president in
Speaker 12: your lifetime?
Speaker 5: I not.
Speaker 12: In your speech, you spoke about the value of vaccines
Speaker 12: for population health and things like that. Obviously your cousin
Speaker 12: is being accused of spreading vaccine skepticism.
Speaker 1: What does it say about America today?
Speaker 2: Donald Trump?
Speaker 4: Do you think the Trump administration could be paving the
Speaker 4: way to allow Israel to annex the West Bank?
Speaker 13: Do you have any thoughts about whether Kevin Rudd's position
Speaker 13: in Washington is tenable? Can he remain in that position?
Speaker 13: And do you have any advice for Ambassador Rudd as
Speaker 13: to how.
Speaker 2: Awesome conduction, what a chummy little club they have where?
Speaker 2: Of course, today the biggest story was an inquiry into
Speaker 2: cash three million people who are this close to homelessness.
Speaker 2: Let's get straight into it and ing gong for the
Speaker 2: rest of the show. Nicholas Rees, Matt Canavan, I know
Speaker 2: you love it. Pull your seat for this one's going
Speaker 2: to be worth remembering on a Monday night here on
Speaker 2: Sky News. Thanks for watching. What's that old line from
Speaker 2: the song you don't know what you got till you
Speaker 2: it's gone well. How we have missed a returning champion.
Speaker 2: You know, he ran off, he became the Mayor of Melbourne.
Speaker 2: Then he won an election while the world was having
Speaker 2: a look at what was happening with Donald Trump. He
Speaker 2: returns as the Lord Mayor of Melbourne. Nicholas Reese is here.
Speaker 2: Congratulations my friend, and welcome home. And more than happy
Speaker 2: to greet him is none other than Matt Canavan, of course,
Speaker 2: sitting by in our nation's capital. Nicholas, congratulations mate, what
Speaker 2: a phenomenal achievement. You had them all against you and
Speaker 2: you swipe them all.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Paul Murray.
Speaker 4: I can't tell you how many times when I was
Speaker 4: out in the huftings people would come up to me
Speaker 4: and say, I've been watching you for years on the
Speaker 4: Paul Murray and we love Paul, and we love you
Speaker 4: and we're going to be inviting for you.
Speaker 1: So there you have it. You are my Joe Rogan mate.
Speaker 1: We can't thank you enough. Matt. I hope you feel
Speaker 1: the same.
Speaker 2: I'm happy to give you the big boy bump here.
Speaker 2: Well done. All right, now, let's now by the way,
Speaker 2: we're not you're back. We've been nice. We've done the
Speaker 2: cuddles back to normal now, okay, but remember this bloke
Speaker 2: Labor didn't even send preferences his way, so it was
Speaker 2: a new Nicholas Ree sitting in front of us here.
Speaker 2: Let's all find it out together. Latest polls show Prime
Speaker 2: minister government world of trouble. But more importantly, Matt, it
Speaker 2: shows that nothing is changing the subject and surprise, surprise,
Speaker 2: you know, the attempt when it comes to university fees
Speaker 2: doesn't move the needle. I wouldn't imagine that some very
Speaker 2: small bugg arising around inquiry into cash is going to
Speaker 2: do the same either. Why do you think it's stuck
Speaker 2: where it's stuck for the government?
Speaker 14: Well, can I first welcome Nicholas back too? If I
Speaker 14: missed your mates, great to have you back. I was
Speaker 14: hoping he was coming back just to celebrate Donald Trump's reelection.
Speaker 14: That's a great achievement from Nick down there in Melbourne too.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 14: Look, I think the issue, Paul, is that the government
Speaker 14: has not really got a credible, coherent economic plan or
Speaker 14: agenda for the country. I don't think any amount of
Speaker 14: cash splashes, debt ride offs or social media youth bans
Speaker 14: are going.
Speaker 1: To resuscitate this government.
Speaker 14: People understand that there is a serious crisis in our
Speaker 14: nation right now. Our living standards have fallen by more
Speaker 14: than any other country in the world since the end
Speaker 14: of COVID. They're down about eight percent of real disposable
Speaker 14: income levels of down about eight percent.
Speaker 1: They've grown in the US while ours have been falling.
Speaker 1: And people get that.
Speaker 14: And so when you've got serious problems in front of
Speaker 14: you as a demand, a hunger for serious solutions, and
Speaker 14: all of these trinkets and cheap sales trips like it's
Speaker 14: like a closing down sale. You know, there's another set
Speaker 14: of stake knives for you. It's just not going to
Speaker 14: cut it with people. And so I think if the
Speaker 14: government has a survival instinct in them, they'll use the
Speaker 14: Christmas break to actually come up with a proper plan,
Speaker 14: not just more cash handouts.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, Nick, it's this thing again. You focused
Speaker 2: on your own future. But now let's start to turn
Speaker 2: their attention to the old team. Why is it just
Speaker 2: not moving for them? Because it's not like there's not
Speaker 2: parts of the media that aren't willing to move on.
Speaker 2: You know, every sort of let's change the subject is
Speaker 2: given the royal treatment. But I think a little bit
Speaker 2: like in the United States, it doesn't matter what the
Speaker 2: message is out of camera, the reality of people's lives
Speaker 2: can't You can't spin it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, I think it's a very challenging
Speaker 4: time to be an incumbent political party in government. You
Speaker 4: look what happened in the UK elections, You look what's
Speaker 4: just happened in the US. Even local government elections here
Speaker 4: in Victoria saw a huge turnover. Like I had a
Speaker 4: very very hard fought victory. I'm going to tell you
Speaker 4: to hang on. So it's a really hard time to
Speaker 4: be in government. I think that's had a lot to
Speaker 4: do with inflation and the impact that's having on cost
Speaker 4: of living and people's sense of how they're going in life.
Speaker 4: And again that's not confined to Australia. It's the same
Speaker 4: story most of the advanced world. I do think Albanize
Speaker 4: has got quite a few things going from there. And
Speaker 4: you know, I was Matt Canavan, I wouldn't be complacent.
Speaker 4: He sounded pretty complacent to me, like he's not going
Speaker 4: post to victory or something. But Albanese he's a pretty
Speaker 4: wily political operator's pretty tough campaigner, and he's got plenty
Speaker 4: of things to sell.
Speaker 1: Matt.
Speaker 4: I mean, let's not forget he has halved inflation since
Speaker 4: coming to office, over a million jobs generated. He's out
Speaker 4: there with his new slogan building Australia's future, which obviously
Speaker 4: goes to his track record in infrastructure.
Speaker 1: So I think the.
Speaker 4: Legend's going to be pretty pretty pretty tight, pretty hard
Speaker 4: for It wasn't, but I wouldn't be complacent.
Speaker 1: Like Matt Matt May.
Speaker 2: Matt wasn't putting the queue in the rack and saying,
Speaker 2: you know this, this game's over. We're talking about the
Speaker 2: pole six and a big months out from an election.
Speaker 14: Matt Well, I wasn't complacent before, But if that is
Speaker 14: the pitch he goes with, I might become a little
Speaker 14: bit complacent because basically what you're saying, Nick, is that
Speaker 14: all the PM has to do is tell all Australians
Speaker 14: that they've never had it so good and they should
Speaker 14: bout out in front of him, and Genu inflected his greatness.
Speaker 14: I mean, we've got the highest inflation that developed world,
Speaker 14: so we've got this massive drop in living stands, real
Speaker 14: wages are cratering, our productivity has fallen six percent since
Speaker 14: this government's.
Speaker 1: Been in power, the highest on record.
Speaker 14: A young people can't afford a home because the government
Speaker 14: can't seem to control our border, letting in a huge
Speaker 14: number of people. It's just brought Christ's after roll in
Speaker 14: Christis and the government. So this week we've got fortnite
Speaker 14: before Christmas. It could be a last sitting week before
Speaker 14: the election. The main focus of the government is to
Speaker 14: ban YouTube for kids under sixty.
Speaker 1: I mean it's time we got real.
Speaker 14: I mean, just a few months ago the government banned
Speaker 14: a billion dollar coal gold mine because of a mythical
Speaker 14: b It's not even a real be it's a made
Speaker 14: up beat and they banned it because of that. I mean,
Speaker 14: what is going on in this country? We got to
Speaker 14: start focusing on the priorities, which is people's real lives.
Speaker 1: They're real budgets that are getting crushed right now.
Speaker 2: So, Nicholas, I mean back to where we were right
Speaker 2: which was I spent a lot of time at the
Speaker 2: start of the show talking about this homelessness report. Three
Speaker 2: million people are right on the edge. Okay, we know
Speaker 2: that there are plenty of people that you have to
Speaker 2: deal with in the city of Melbourne, plenty of people
Speaker 2: in regional Queensland as well, who are in a world
Speaker 2: of trouble where they're still working but I don't have
Speaker 2: enough money for rent and they might be living in
Speaker 2: their car, living in their tent today, three million people
Speaker 2: on the edge. This government today did not talk about
Speaker 2: that issue, did not respond to that issue, did not
Speaker 2: find a billion dollars off budget to help any of
Speaker 2: those people. Instead, it's censoring the Internet and launching reviews
Speaker 2: into whether cash will or won't be available at a
Speaker 2: service station in twenty twenty six. I think again, those
Speaker 2: three million people have every right to vote. But those
Speaker 2: three million people know other family members, meaning the total
Speaker 2: number of people that are exposed to this is a
Speaker 2: lot more than three million people. And I think that
Speaker 2: that is a decisive figure in your political future. And
Speaker 2: if this bloke you're spending more money on ads, flogging
Speaker 2: two little too late tax cuts and building futures made
Speaker 2: all of this sort of garbage, well I would cancel
Speaker 2: every dollar of that and I would throw it at
Speaker 2: making sure people have somewhere to live. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Look, I think housing is going to be a major
Speaker 4: issue at the next election. Probably we haven't seen housing
Speaker 4: such a irrelevant.
Speaker 1: Issue in a long, long time.
Speaker 4: I mean, we heard a lot of negativity from matter
Speaker 4: moment ago, didn't hear much in the way of positive plans,
Speaker 4: and that's a challenge to labor as well. I agree
Speaker 4: with Matt. They can't just write on the records. They've
Speaker 4: really got to go to the election was a positive
Speaker 4: plan and show people the practical things they will do
Speaker 4: to make people's life, you know, that little bit better,
Speaker 4: that helping hand that people are looking for. And housing's
Speaker 4: going to be an absolute key area where I'd be
Speaker 4: hoping to see more from labor. I mean, I think
Speaker 4: in this country there's a complex combination of factors feeding
Speaker 4: into housing unaffordability. I mean, some of it is construction costs,
Speaker 4: some of it is obviously interest rates. I think the
Speaker 4: fact that housing has become an investment immigrategory in Australia
Speaker 4: has been a problem as well. Yeah, yeah, I do
Speaker 4: think the fact that we've had a million growth and
Speaker 4: not enough new how I'm speaking built is a factor. Paul,
Speaker 4: I agree with you in part of it. So the
Speaker 4: question that the election is going to be well, what
Speaker 4: are you going to do about it? And that's the
Speaker 4: real challenge for labor. But I am confident that I
Speaker 4: think Albani is in labor will go forward with.
Speaker 1: A strong plan. Like you just look at that slogan.
Speaker 4: They've got it there and it's more than a slogan
Speaker 4: building Australia's future. I think that's exactly where Albanizi should
Speaker 4: be going on housing.
Speaker 2: But does anyone believe this building Australia's future stuff? Again,
Speaker 2: you have a wonderful slogan and you've got to have
Speaker 2: some and I've got this feeling. And again politicians will
Speaker 2: stand up and here's the slogan, and this is this
Speaker 2: billion and this like until people see something change, some
Speaker 2: thing that state governments have been devilishly good at, which
Speaker 2: is and it's worked for multiple state governments getting re
Speaker 2: elected who don't deserve it right, which is to basically
Speaker 2: announce a plan for some giant construction site, make sure
Speaker 2: that you put the bunting up around it, even though
Speaker 2: they haven't even done the architects plan. So people might
Speaker 2: think something's happening, but the reality is when three million
Speaker 2: people are this close, this close, you know there's always
Speaker 2: been poverty, But that is a red light that if
Speaker 2: there is a shock at the election, it's not a
Speaker 2: bread crumb. It's a giant bakery of a clue to
Speaker 2: where we might be heading in this country.
Speaker 14: I think we're heading potentially for an economic crisis and
Speaker 14: Earth we turn things around pretty quickly. And look, the
Speaker 14: slogans are fine, you need to try and succinctly explain
Speaker 14: your position to people. The problem with the building Australia's
Speaker 14: future is there's not a lot of meat on the
Speaker 14: bone and the stuff that is there is failing before
Speaker 14: our eyes. And so most of that building Australia's future
Speaker 14: is around this so called energy transition which is only
Speaker 14: delivered higher power prices for Australia promises about mythical hydrogen
Speaker 14: jobs which have not and are not turning up anytime soon.
Speaker 14: And so yes, I agree with Nick. We've got to
Speaker 14: come up with our own plans. I've seen this on show,
Speaker 14: on this show many times. We've got a good start
Speaker 14: there with the plans to cut government spending by ninety
Speaker 14: billion dollars, taking off pressure off inflation, bringing prices down.
Speaker 14: We've got plans to remove the ridiculous and out of
Speaker 14: date nuclear energy bands so we can build reliable power
Speaker 14: supplies that can keep our manufacturing jobs in this country,
Speaker 14: and we've got a plan to cut migration that take
Speaker 14: pressure off housing so a young people can put a home.
Speaker 14: There's a lot more to do, of course, but I
Speaker 14: think if the problem for this government is their current
Speaker 14: plans are clearly failing.
Speaker 1: So unless they pivot here and.
Speaker 14: Get rid of the barnacle so to speak that John
Speaker 14: Howard was an expert at doing, I really think they're
Speaker 14: going to struggle because how can you go to the
Speaker 14: electorate with a bunch of reheated microwave plans from twenty
Speaker 14: twenty two that have clearly not worked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well, plenty to talk about it in
Speaker 2: the next of a while, including I know that Matt
Speaker 2: would just like to talk Trump for the rest of it.
Speaker 2: We'll go in and around that. And obviously Nick's plans
Speaker 2: for Melbourne, including a female statue led recovery, we know
Speaker 2: that's part of the plan as well. Quick break back
Speaker 2: with more plenty to talk about here on Port Murray Live.
Speaker 2: Here it'll the end of the show and the late
Speaker 2: debate is up moments from now. Thank you to Mike
Speaker 2: and a bunch of other emailers who were clarified and
Speaker 2: have sent me the full quotes about Mike Tyson, No,
Speaker 2: he does not have AIDS instead. However, he did actually
Speaker 2: have six with people who were HIV positive but did
Speaker 2: not end up having AIDS. But again it was part
Speaker 2: of the coverage about his fitness when it came to
Speaker 2: that fight, which thankfully it might be happening again. But
Speaker 2: he's twenty minute dollars. Richard, all right, let's get into
Speaker 2: it again with Nicholas Reess Cary out A champ re
Speaker 2: elected as the mayor of Melbourne in his own right.
Speaker 2: Remember just mention our name, no parking signs for anyone,
Speaker 2: and the wonderful Matt Canavan. Nicholas, all right, we've heard
Speaker 2: the pitch before, but now it's action time. In a
Speaker 2: year's time, how does Melbourne look the better for you
Speaker 2: being its boss?
Speaker 1: Well, thanks, Paul.
Speaker 4: Well I've said the most pressing priority as I'll have
Speaker 4: as Lord Mayor is city safety and city cleanliness. So
Speaker 4: rolling out new city safety offices, very visible safety presence
Speaker 4: on the streets, also doubling the number of CCTV cameras
Speaker 4: around the city that angel eye in the sky. I'm
Speaker 4: also going to be having a massive overhaul of cleaning,
Speaker 4: with twenty four hours a day seven day a week
Speaker 4: cleaning services, helping with cost of leaving, putting a freeze
Speaker 4: on rates, putting doward pressure on power prices.
Speaker 1: Through a bulk purchasing scheme.
Speaker 4: May you just two dollars to go to the local
Speaker 4: pool free pet red sho.
Speaker 1: I've just looked across.
Speaker 4: All the things, the little things we do that touch
Speaker 4: people's lives, and said, how can I save people a
Speaker 4: few dollars there?
Speaker 1: Just knowing it all adds up?
Speaker 4: So a cleaner, safer, greener, healthier.
Speaker 1: More prosperous Melbourne. That's what you'll see in a year
Speaker 1: from now.
Speaker 2: Well done? All right, now, Matt, what about the coal
Speaker 2: industry coming out today and saying, hey, but before we
Speaker 2: all move on here, there is a future here. There
Speaker 2: is a future for it in our energy system and
Speaker 2: also as a way of making sure that we don't
Speaker 2: end up shooting ourselves in the foot in the race
Speaker 2: to renewables.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I'll of course get the coal, Paul, But I
Speaker 14: just want to say it, that's a great agenda of Nick.
Speaker 14: It sounds like lower taxes, cracked down crime. He might
Speaker 14: have been he might have been looking at Donald Trump's
Speaker 14: homework over there. Yeah, I might move there, we might
Speaker 14: lose all these Queen's Landers back down there. Mate, they've
Speaker 14: turned out.
Speaker 1: Magnetic Paulish City. Matt. We are very welcome here, very
Speaker 1: welcome here. It's a lovely I was ready. It's a
Speaker 1: shame with Dan Andrews. It's a shame what Dan Andrews
Speaker 1: did to it. So all power to you. It's a
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful city.
Speaker 4: But I mean, I've got to tell you, I was
Speaker 4: reading these, reading these news reports of all these Americans
Speaker 4: who are saying they were going to move to Canada
Speaker 4: after a Donald Trump's victory, and.
Speaker 1: Of course I was saying, they'll be very welcome, very welcome,
Speaker 1: and you'll be welcome to Matt. He'll be welcome to Matt.
Speaker 1: Let's I think Canada.
Speaker 14: Canada is not going to be a left wing respite
Speaker 14: for too much longer, I think for those poor souls.
Speaker 14: But but yes, now on to Cole Paul on Cole, well, look,
Speaker 14: I mean everything has changed really in the world the
Speaker 14: last few weeks, and finally we've got people out here
Speaker 14: belling the cat that if we if we want to
Speaker 14: keep cheap power in this country, we've got to use
Speaker 14: all our natural resources.
Speaker 1: I'd love to use more gas.
Speaker 14: But the simple fact is we do not have the
Speaker 14: affordable gas like the United States have. We do have
Speaker 14: lots of cheap and plentiful coal those So today we've
Speaker 14: had Glen call BHP. Even if all companies come out
Speaker 14: and raise this warning, and if we don't get energy
Speaker 14: prices down, we're going to lose a lot of manufacturing
Speaker 14: businesses and not just a China to a rejuvenated energy
Speaker 14: rich Trump led America too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't forget also part of the policies, there
Speaker 2: is a whole use of tax policies as well on
Speaker 2: top of cheap energy. All right, do appreciate it. Nick,
Speaker 2: we'll play again very soon. In no doubt you'll have
Speaker 2: plenty to say in the future about cole gas, renewables
Speaker 2: and everything else. Again, congratulations mate, really proud of You're
Speaker 2: well done, Matt. Just quely before we go. Since of
Speaker 2: the Internet, it looks like they're at least one vote short,
Speaker 2: even if they're able to somehow get Van and Thorpe.
Speaker 2: Do you think this thing dies and when does it die?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 14: Look, and I thank all the posse out there watching.
Speaker 14: Paul at done a remarkable job on social media. We
Speaker 14: have delivered at this stage enough votes to the clear
Speaker 14: votes to stop this ministry of truth being established. But
Speaker 14: you can't count your chickens still. The votes are tally,
Speaker 14: so we've got to keep the pressure up. But again,
Speaker 14: as many votes as we can. I think it needs
Speaker 14: to be defeated, and defeated massively, so there's never this
Speaker 14: terrible idea never arises again.
Speaker 2: Bloody thanks, Lad's to appreciate it. We'll see you all
Speaker 2: again very soon. Right, that's our show for tonight, the
Speaker 2: Late Debates standing by now. I was watching their prep before.
Speaker 2: They're all standing around a monitor studying something like the
Speaker 2: Zabruta film. Don't know what I was, but we'll all
Speaker 2: find out together shortly. See tomorrow