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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Cricket Today Show for an insane

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Speaker 1: test rap of the Australia Versus West Indies Test series.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host Lea McCallon, also known as the Stats Guy.

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Speaker 1: We just got one man on the couch today.

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Speaker 2: He's fired.

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Speaker 1: He's turned up in the office. That's very nice to see.

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Speaker 1: Liam Maloley.

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Speaker 2: How you going, I'm going good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Once Marcus saw the result today put him into

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Speaker 3: like a sickness that we don't know.

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Speaker 4: He's just blown away by Stark and Boland.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, we're going to touch on the ossies this morning.

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Speaker 1: That Ozzie is just cheering everywhere because that is an

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Speaker 1: insane result, which we will touch on in a second.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you check out odds dot com dot e

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Speaker 1: for more cricket content. Marcus, who's not here, chucks up

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Speaker 1: a lot of articles on there across all sports, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: cricket as well. Specifically, it's gonna be an awesome show.

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Speaker 1: As Leo mentioned, we're going to talk up Starky and Bowland,

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Speaker 1: build them both a statue which we will touch on,

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Speaker 1: and our early ashes eleven. So Leo, that's all he's

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Speaker 1: been talking about for the last I reckon six months

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Speaker 1: and the ashes is creeping up.

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Speaker 2: It's creeping up on us, so we might as well

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Speaker 2: do an Ashes eleven.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, why not?

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Speaker 3: I think I've seen a few clips on socials, so

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Speaker 3: let's give out take why not?

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Speaker 2: Why not?

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Speaker 1: Before we start, make sure you get around this on Spotify,

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Speaker 1: sure you check that out. All right, let's get right

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Speaker 1: into it because we haven't done a rap show in

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Speaker 1: a while, but we had to on this one.

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Speaker 2: This is absolutely awesome.

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Speaker 1: Third Test Wrap Australia sweep the Series three zero. It

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Speaker 1: was a day night test the pink ball and they

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Speaker 1: win by one hundred and seventy six runs. I believe

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Speaker 1: that's now twelve or thirteen tests that they've won in

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Speaker 1: the pink balls. We should just play pink ball tests

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Speaker 1: all the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, i'dn't.

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Speaker 3: Might have a good old day night of that last

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Speaker 3: session when it's swinging around, hooping and then as soon

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Speaker 3: as soon as it's done you can go to bed.

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Speaker 2: You'd hate to be a better with the pink ball though.

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Speaker 3: For you'd hate yeah, unless you're manus just a good

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, he didn't even play obviously though if you

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Speaker 1: haven't seen it, the Windys were bowled out by Australia

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Speaker 1: for twenty seven, the second lowest score in Test history.

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Speaker 1: Apparently we're talking to people in the office. Constance missed

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Speaker 1: an easy one fielding. So he's cost Australia the chance

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Speaker 1: at having the best, sorry, the worst Test score against them.

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Speaker 2: So that's annoying.

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Speaker 4: We threw on Constants under the back.

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Speaker 3: He's he've got a great runout and he's in the

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Speaker 3: first and he did.

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Speaker 2: But that's all he did. That's all he did.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, let's get into the Stark and Bowler. We've got

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Speaker 1: to talk about that about Constant. Let's get out of

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Speaker 1: the Bark and Bowling. This you got, this is the

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Speaker 1: Stark and Bowling show. They dominated Stark six to nine.

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Speaker 1: He had five for two at one stage of the game.

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Speaker 1: He took three in the first over.

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Speaker 3: The Windys had no answer to his angle away swinging.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like he's been doing that for one hundred

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Speaker 4: They obviously didn't.

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Speaker 3: And Bowling three for two including a hat trick, which

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Speaker 3: first hat trick since sitt All on his birth on

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Speaker 3: I believe that's right.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so he's also the the first civilized you said,

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Speaker 1: But none of the big bowlers that we have right now,

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Speaker 1: He's so unlucky that he's just in that sort of

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Speaker 3: But he's not coming in for Stark though, because some

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Speaker 4: But nuts, aren't they.

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Speaker 2: Oh Stark.

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Speaker 1: Stark's got stats glow. As Leo mentioned, He's got his

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Speaker 1: He didn't want to play in IPL. He wants to

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Speaker 1: obviously turning down IPL money he would.

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Speaker 4: Have got turns down he did play.

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Speaker 1: No, he didn't play in twenty twenty three and then

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Speaker 2: It was like like a year and a half off.

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Speaker 1: I reckon of like no IPL, no, sort of other

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Speaker 2: So I respect that he's.

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Speaker 1: Played one hundred tests now and he's absolutely awesome. He's

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Speaker 3: I think he's the fourth, isn't he fourth? Yeah, there's

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Speaker 3: McGrath worn line and him.

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Speaker 2: Put some respect on Starkey's name.

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Speaker 4: That's all we get overheated he does, he does.

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Speaker 1: He's got that dog in him now as well, which

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Speaker 1: I'll touch on. He's got the fastest ever five for

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Speaker 2: He's there a fifteen balls to get five for. That's

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Speaker 4: I reckon I could survive fifteen balls with mid Star

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Speaker 3: You're either going to have a broken Okay, sorry sorry,

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Speaker 2: I genuinely reckon, reckon you won't.

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Speaker 4: This is surviving one every three.

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Speaker 2: He could bowl five Yorks in those fifteen balls.

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Speaker 3: Set up his bat in front of pad and I'm

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Speaker 4: And if it's full, just try't get the bat there.

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Speaker 2: What's the fastest ball you want to face?

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Speaker 4: One forty? I reckon, I faced one close to one forty?

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Speaker 4: What no?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: There was one game for four to eleven. I was

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Speaker 2: One thirty five only one thirty, I reckon, more like thirty.

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Speaker 2: He was quick. I don't know about that one.

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Speaker 1: And then I think he's Stark As I said, he

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Speaker 1: Jaden Seals. So what's it's West Indies players and give

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Speaker 1: him an Indian India players and a few other teams

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Speaker 1: given people send offs. So Seals gave Stark a send off.

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Speaker 1: The last person you should give a send off is

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Speaker 4: No, I love it. Nah, no, it's great. I want

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Speaker 4: to see more of this stuff. I want to see.

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Speaker 3: Bring me back to when roberta bump Smith and Smith

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Speaker 3: got rattled by Yeah he bumped him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah good, just checking you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I pronounced the p in that word. Bring back

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Speaker 4: the ball, Tamprick saga. Now I want the drama.

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Speaker 3: I want the sendoffs. I'm so excited the ashes. By

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Speaker 4: To be send off send off Scalore.

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Speaker 4: I want sendoffs. Yeah. No, don't be a baby.

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Speaker 2: Don't be a baby. Is that what he's saying that?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think it fired up Starky and he

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Speaker 1: just incredible, as you mentioned, a bit underrated. I reckon

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Speaker 1: all right, that's the third Test, right because we just

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk up the Aussie bowlers. The batsmen were horrible.

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Speaker 1: I think it was seven ducks from the West Indies.

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Speaker 1: The Aussie batsman it was just the bowlers. No Assie

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Speaker 1: Batsman weren't much better. But we didn't get bold after

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Speaker 1: are we gonna get bled after twenty seven? We could

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Speaker 1: No way, that's never happening.

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Speaker 2: Big questions.

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Speaker 1: We haven't done this one for a while, but there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of questions surrounding selection. The ashes are in

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Speaker 1: but he hasn't made a run for a while. You've

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Speaker 3: Yeah, conscious just looks to me like so he's first

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Speaker 4: I don't think that's his actual game.

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Speaker 3: But then he's gone, all right, let me try and

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Speaker 3: did work worse than his confident confidence. It's let's go

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Speaker 3: back to some state level cricket, build your form back up.

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Speaker 3: We still back you win long term respect here. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: he wasn't He wasn't great throughout the series.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So do you think it's time to replace some openers?

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Speaker 1: Is Constant is going to keep his spots? Kah, You're

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Speaker 1: Who who in that top order needs to be replaced?

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Speaker 4: I think he's still in a weird way.

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Speaker 3: You have to keep one of them because you don't

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Speaker 3: just isn't great for stability, I don't think, especially coming

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Speaker 3: series I think for an Australian side the tests. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I just think you need to at least keep one.

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Speaker 3: And Clark has been there for a while, he's been

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Speaker 3: the main stay. So do you do you stay with him?

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Speaker 3: That's the question.

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Speaker 4: There's a big question.

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Speaker 1: I'm leaning towards keeping him in as well because I

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Speaker 1: think he'll be more suited to Australian conditions, which I'll

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Speaker 1: touch on later with the Ashes eleven than the West,

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Speaker 1: and he's like, it was tough batting over there, so

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Speaker 2: Give him another guy I reckon. Cam Green is the

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Speaker 2: next one I want to talk about. He was solid.

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Speaker 1: He out of fifty in this series. He had a

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Speaker 2: No, don't mind that at all. Don't mind that. I'm

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Speaker 2: He's done it before.

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Speaker 4: He's a bias shout because we love him on this show.

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Speaker 1: He had the most wickets in county cricket over that

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Speaker 1: He's gotten a lot of these English batsman out before

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Speaker 1: Let us know in the comments about our ashes eleven

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Speaker 1: because what's their lash and what's your ashes eleven?

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Speaker 2: Because we're already so I always wanted the ashes to start.

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Speaker 2: Now came to be somewhere.

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Speaker 4: I'm very nervous for the ashes.

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Speaker 2: You're already nervous.

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Speaker 4: You can wreck.

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Speaker 2: You're a wreck eight days. You look great for that.

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Speaker 2: You must have ad a few coffees. I'm in a relationship.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, Okay, no one get around him in the comments.

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