WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 13 March 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:05.199 Late welcome, late pay. 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:09.640 Thanks for joining us. I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:12.280 and filling in for kleab Bond is Joe Hildebrand. A 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:16.640 lot to get through tonight, including Californian Governor Gavin Newsom 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:20.919 funds a massive statue. Guess who it's of. We'll confirm 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:24.040 your suspicions a little later in the program. Plus, when 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:27.000 we look at what's making news tomorrow, new data shows 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:30.960 just how badly our children were affected by COVID restrictions, 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:35.040 and police name the person they allege is responsible for 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:37.519 the fake caravan terror plot. All of that and more 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:40.440 when we look at what's making news tomorrow. But first, 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:43.680 here's a question that the Labor Party need to answer. 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:46.480 Was it racial profiling or was it just a normal 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:49.440 part of modern politics where the community is divided up 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:53.680 into voting blocks. Labour need to answer that question because 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:57.560 they held a Chinese only town hall meeting in the 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:01.080 Melbourne suburb of box Hill last night. Now, local residents 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:05.560 in box Hill received a pamphlet in their letterboxes inviting 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.360 them to hear Foreign Minister Penny Wong and Victorian Premier 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:13.880 or former Victorian Premier Dan Andrews address quote concerns for 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:17.840 the Chinese community. But when non Chinese residents showed up 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:20.280 and tried to enter the meeting, they were told they 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:22.760 couldn't do so without a valid ticket, and to have 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.840 a valid ticket, you could only access it via the 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:30.720 social Chinese social networking app we chat. Here's what happened 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:34.360 when non Chinese people tried to get into the event. 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:37.360 And I said that I'll sign in now, happy to 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:38.080 sign in now? 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:40.640 Yeah, so we're happy to sign in. 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:43.959 They're only allowing people of a very specific archetype in 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:44.319 these doors. 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:45.320 It's a closed doors meeting. 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:46.440 Would yeah to. 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:50.800 Attend what's a public meeting? But apparently if you've got 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:52.200 a tip pick. 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:53.240 Is a posit balad. 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:56.960 We just said, that's not with us, that's not that's 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:57.800 some part of this event. 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.280 Well, so locals are getting these in the mail and 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:02.880 they're coming here, registering their name, registering their dress, talking 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:04.680 to the police, not being allowed any closed doors. 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:07.559 Tony Wong, why has Labour being restricting freedom of speech 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:08.400 for Australians? 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:11.799 Can you answer to that? Why weren't Australians. 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:13.079 Allowed in tonight to this event? Why we are only 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:17.680 Chinese people allowed in doesn't look good, does it. When 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:21.000 Labor asked what on earth is going on, they put 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:24.520 out this statement, the event was organized as part of 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:28.320 Labour's outreach to the Chinese community to understand their concerns 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:31.919 ahead of the federal election. Connecting with multicultural communities is 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:35.200 normal and important for any political party. Then they went 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:38.320 on to say, it's unfortunate that protesters sought to disrupt 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:41.480 the event. We thank Victoria Police for ensuring the event 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:44.480 was able to proceed safely. Now it's true, there are 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:47.799 about one hundred and fifty people protesting outside the event. 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:51.040 They were protesting the presence of Dan Andrews, and I 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:54.080 think we would all agree, go you good thing. They 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:58.680 were also protesting the Chinese Communist Party. The Labor organizers 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.080 say that it was protesters trying to get into the 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:03.920 event to disrupt it. Those trying to get into the 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:07.120 event say no, no, they were just normal residents. Here's 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:11.200 Christopher Bruin who disputes the Labor Party account of what happened. 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:13.160 He spoke to Andrew Bolt earlier this evening. 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:17.360 There's multiple videos that I published which include a police 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.320 officer walking over to the protesters to check everything's okay, 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:22.800 and then the protester laughing and saying no worries. The 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:24.840 police needed them to move in a certain direction. That 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:28.040 was happy to I cover protests. I cover riots. If 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.360 you have protesters who are going to cause a problem, 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:32.920 they don't do what police ask they don't laugh. In 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.480 spianshe yeah, no worries, We'll move over here. Yeah no, 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:39.440 always will go over there. They start arguing with the police. 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:42.720 So there's a fair bit going on here, Joe and Liz. 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:45.760 The bottom line for me is, I mean, if labor 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:49.120 want to hold meetings with a particular group, whether it's 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:53.200 Chinese or Christians or pensioners, and only that group, then 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:55.840 they're free to do so. It's called freedom of association. 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:59.440 Then again, just because you can doesn't mean you should, 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:03.200 and just because something's permissible doesn't mean it's wise. It's 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:06.040 not a good look for Labor, particularly when they're making 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.400 such a big deal of social cohesion and we've got 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:12.280 to bring everybody together then to be dividing people by race, 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:15.280 and perhaps more so when there are tensions and I'm 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:18.560 not talking about Chinese Australians, but there are tensions between 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:22.320 Australia and the Nation of China. Not a good look. 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:24.960 No, well it's worse than not a good look. Sure 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.320 you can hold a campaign event, which, let's be honest, 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:32.120 that's what this is, to shill for votes in a 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:37.040 particular cultural society. But it's another thing entirely to then 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:43.160 refuse entry to anyone who isn't Chinese. These are public servants, 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:47.680 we pay them, we elect them to serve us. We 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:51.240 ought to have equal access at all times. Now, this 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:55.080 is a town hall event, and yes you are targeting 0:04:55.120 --> 0:05:00.120 the Chinese community in box Hill, understood, go for your life, 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:04.360 but you don't get to bar other people from that 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:08.480 town hall event. Everyone should have the same access to you. 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:10.960 You tell us that, oh we're all Australians and this 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:14.880 is the beauty of a multicultural society, and then you 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:20.680 want to participate in sectarian politics. No, that's not how 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:25.400 this works whatsoever. And even if it was the case, 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:29.720 which I think DeBruin debunked this, but let's say it 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:34.320 was the case that people had invalid tickets, Since when 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:39.159 is this a ticketed event. A town hall held by 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:43.760 government officials is open to all in sundry, What were 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:48.160 you like vetting people who bought tickets? I doubt it. 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.920 These people rocked up, they expected to attend, and you 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.880 saw them there. They weren't being nasty, they weren't being weird, 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:58.360 they weren't being rowdy. There was absolutely no good reason 0:05:58.440 --> 0:05:59.479 to refuse them entry. 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:01.880 That is none of that is true. None of that 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:02.240 is true. 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:06.080 It was an event where people were invited to respond 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.600 to an invitation. If they did that, they would get 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:10.160 a ticket and they would be able to go in. 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.120 If they didn't, then they didn't have a ticket and 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:13.200 they're not able to go in. 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:14.800 It's the most the way. 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:19.119 I've never heard of a ticketed government held town hall. Really, 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:23.840 I have attended countless town halls. I've worked for three MPs. 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:26.840 Every Tom, Dick and Harry you can saunter in. It 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.400 doesn't even I don't think. 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.320 It's not in the town hall. It's a meeting. It's 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:32.599 a meeting with members of the tripes. 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:36.120 Yes, exactly, Hence the term town hall, the idea. They 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:39.840 even have town halls on the phone. Some of my MPs. 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:47.200 These people public access to these members of You. 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:49.320 Don't think you can to any event you want to 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:50.919 go to just because you want to go there, or 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:52.720 just because a politician is in there. I mean, it's 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:54.479 like saying I'm going to rock up to the lodge 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.960 and barge in because the PM's meeting with the Australian cricket. 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:01.799 Teams and I were turned away other than being white. 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:04.800 A meeting specifically for the Chinese community. So they want 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:05.599 to talk to the Chinese. 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:12.760 Lets said, We're okay with periodic white Australians. 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:14.520 Let's see if they can understand English. 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:18.880 Local labor MPs and candidates sincerely invite you to attend 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.040 as they share the latest developments on issues of concern 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:26.680 to the Chinese community, Chinese community. So it says Capital 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:31.920 c yet Chinese community meeting Chinese Australians, especially the efforts 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:35.200 and acknowledge and achievements of the Federal Labor, Federal Government 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:40.080 in improving Australia China relations. With guest speakers the Honorable 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:42.760 Senator Penny Wong and former Premier Daniel Andrews. Now, if 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:45.120 people want to go out and protest against Daniel Andrews, 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.240 that's absolutely fine. They can jump up and down and 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.600 he's you know, he's done some terrible things during COVID, 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.040 and we're going to talk about one of those horrendous 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.560 impacts later on in the show. But the idea that 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:57.280 just because you're angry about something, or just because you're 0:07:57.320 --> 0:07:59.400 jumping up and down about an issue, you should be 0:07:59.400 --> 0:07:59.920 able to bard. 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:00.880 They weren't. 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:03.720 Even they were just trying to protest. 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:06.880 And protesting then they just had to buy a ticket 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:08.520 or register a ticket. 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:09.760 I don't have to pay for it. 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:14.360 No reason why people in the community couldn't simply come along. 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.560 Absolutely because the ticket. 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:23.440 This wasn't a security issue, isn't any kind of I went. 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.680 To a ticketed event at a local public high school, 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.280 and you know why, because they put all the people 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:31.760 in a building and you're only allowed to have a 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:33.880 certain number of people in a building. 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.240 Well, they haven't even stated that concern. 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:37.400 Maybe you should have fed. 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:39.360 People who had responded to the event. 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.520 Sectarian politics, where's your townhole for? 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:44.200 They do it the community. 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.600 Where's your town hall for the European population? 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:51.880 All the time politicians, politicians have met with the Jewish 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:53.840 community over the concerns they have. 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:57.960 That's totally different, and they don't. They meet with different No, 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:00.440 and they do meet with different group. 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.439 That's what they're doing is a town hall to get 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:04.640 the town hall description. 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:07.840 No, it was called the town hall, I dare. 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.559 Say you've never even been to one, mac. I've attended 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:14.480 countless town halls. The idea is that anyone from the 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:15.920 community can come. 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.280 Okay, so imagine it wasn't called the town hall, it 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.560 was a meeting with the Chinese community. Would that make 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:21.000 it different? 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:25.520 What if a few European Australian words in what Chinese 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:28.959 saying there has never been a townho So you're saying 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:32.040 there has never been a town hall event in which 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:33.760 anyone from the public can just show. 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:34.679 I'm not saying what. 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:38.320 I've certainly never attended one where news Crop. 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:41.120 At this company, we have town hall events. 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:43.000 All the time for news employees. 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:48.000 Were wandering way, What if anyone who does, if. 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:52.840 You want, anyone who's not from news Crop does get 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:53.480 turned away and that. 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:54.840 But it's a townhall. 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:56.560 You have to let me because it's a town hall, 0:09:57.120 --> 0:10:00.199 town hall for a particular community, for a particular. 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:04.640 I'm sure any Aussies watching tonight who aren't Chinese share 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:05.720 my concerns. 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:10.800 I'm not Chinese. You have to have just a special. 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:12.680 One for Chinese people where. 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:15.439 Different different parts of the community. 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:19.640 All the time I've been to that sectarian politics in 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.080 a nutshell. Why are you're assuming, based on the color 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:26.839 of someone's skin that they have concerns. 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.760 It says on the thing, if you have concerns, they're 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:31.200 just going to come to this meeting. 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:35.720 From the Chinese in the United Yes. 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:37.600 They clearly want to speak to the Chinese. 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:40.040 Kingland have concerns about these. 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:42.559 It's not wrong. 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:46.760 But you guys argue the exact opposite. When we're talking about, say, 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:49.920 representation in parliament. Oh, we've got to have this many 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:52.840 indigenous people. Oh we should have this many Chinese people. 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.720 Politicians meet and then when politicians want to shield for 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:58.680 votes from a particular culture. 0:10:58.320 --> 0:10:59.160 They do it all the time. 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:03.000 They do robbish color of their skin. 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:06.520 That's okay. No, politicians meet with different voting blocks all 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:08.880 the time from all identity places. 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:09.280 Of the community. 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:13.000 No, it is one hundred different when they're simply rocking 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:16.160 up attending an if Tar dinner, they're simply rocking up 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:20.440 participating in Dwali. That is totally different. Yes, they are 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:23.960 pressing the flesh with different cultures within our society, but 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:25.360 it's totally different. 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:27.640 If politicians wanted to meet government. 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:29.880 Members and totally saying we just want to meet with 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:32.880 the Chinese community in this specific. 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:34.440 Politicians said, we just want to meet with the Christian 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.199 community about concerns Christians have. Oh yeah, well they've never 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:39.080 done that, have they? Let me finish an example. 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:40.120 That's a great example. 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:41.760 I just want to see if the principle that you 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.120 are espousing follows. If they want to meet with the 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.439 a whole lot of Christians about concerns the Christian Church 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:48.480 have and a whole bunch of atheists want to come in, 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:50.600 would that be okay for them to say no, no, no, 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:52.760 we want to talk to the Christians specifically about Christian issues. 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:53.360 Would that be okay? 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:58.480 Well, firstly, that never happens. Where's the town in popularity asking. 0:11:58.200 --> 0:11:59.680 About the principle of the thing? 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.360 Principle of the thing is that they don't do that. 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:06.280 They simply go to Christian conferences and take the stage. 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:10.880 Sources won't be able to walk into those Christian conferences anyone, 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:12.040 whether they've got a ticket or not. 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:15.600 No, because it's a church holding a conference I am 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:21.880 talking about of parliament for the Chinese in this community, 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:24.760 sectarian politics. 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:27.760 Example that you can go in if you're interested in 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:30.160 these things and you've therefore said yes, I'd like a ticket, 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.199 I'd like to go to this thing. Then you can go. 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:33.640 And if you've got your ticket, you're fine. 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:35.200 And you have to know that it wasn't a matter 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:35.559 of that. 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:38.280 We saw the people on the screen. They weren't being 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:39.040 argie bargie. 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:40.640 They weren't they didn't have a ticket. 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:43.880 They thought they had a valid ticket. Clearly a can 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:46.080 we told that their tickets were invalid. 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:47.679 Let's move on to something. I want to move on 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:51.640 to something really important, as important as social cohesion and 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:53.960 all of this stuff is let's talk about wombats. 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:55.120 One. 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:58.760 Bats are really important. In fact, the whole country stopped 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:02.640 today to talk about wom bats because an American influencer. Well, 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:04.560 I'm sure you know what happened, but if you've not 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:09.319 seen the footage that this American influencer filmed, his what happened. 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:19.840 Just caught a baby one. But look at the mother. 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:21.920 It's like, oh cheat it after he. 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:33.640 Thank, okay, mama's right there and she has pissed. 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:34.760 Let's let him go. 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.880 Well, I'll tell you, Anthony Albanese, he's finally found an 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:41.800 issue he can get his teeth into. He was quote 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:43.240 unquote outraged. 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:49.080 Now, I suggested this so called influencer, maybe she might 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:53.400 try some other Australian animals. Take a baby crocodile from 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:55.280 its mother and see how you go there. 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:59.400 Finally, Anthony Albanese found a spine. It was just a 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:01.840 pity it was over a wombat. If only he was 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:05.960 so concerned about the welfare of Australian people. Immigration Minister 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:09.440 Tony Burke, he said he couldn't wait to see the 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:12.960 back of Samantha Jones and Penny Wong, the Foreign Minister. 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:15.440 She weighed in as well, saying it was a dreadful 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:19.000 thing to separate a baby from its mother and she 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:22.120 was happy for Tony Burke to take action. Tony Burke, 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.600 who's done not much at all about the visas of 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:28.080 people sprouting all sorts of hatred in our community, is 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:32.240 going to review immediately that woman's visa with the idea 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:35.240 that she will not be allowed back to Australia if 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:38.480 in fact she's already left. What do you make of this, Joe. 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:41.880 Wombat deportation is too good for a bring back the 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:44.880 death penalty? This is an outrage. How stupid can you be? 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:48.680 And obviously the answer is an American, but like, honestly, 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:51.160 how stupid would you it? Only just to double that 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:53.960 to square that an American influencer. I mean, firstly, she 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:56.680 should be deported just for being an influencer. Secondly, she 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.240 should be deported just for being American. And I'm half American, 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:03.800 so I can say that not racist. And thirdly, the wombat, like, 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.440 this is a country where you can get arrested for 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:10.000 bringing in the wrong type of banana, and she thinks 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:12.480 it's okay to go and grab a baby wombat. 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:14.800 Surely grabbed it for like sixty seconds and then she 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:18.720 put it back in. Wombat years were harmed in the filming. 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.760 Nobody wom bat years sixty seconds is like three and 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:22.280 a half months. 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:23.880 Oh, I didn't realize that if you're. 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:26.600 A baby wombat as a proportion of that, that's lot. 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:29.000 This Is it right for our politicians to be all 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:30.920 up in arms about this or does it just make 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.280 a bit of a joke of our political leaders a. 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:36.680 Serious country when you've got the highest office in the 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:40.200 land talking about some American influence. So grabbing a baby 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:44.560 wombat for sixty seconds, maybe you could afford yourself such 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:47.240 a luxury alb and easy if we didn't have a 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:52.040 housing crisis, a social cohesion and crisis, and energy crisis, 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:56.440 a fertility crisis and eighty f recruitment crisis, and I 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:58.760 could go on till I was blue in the face, 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:02.280 maybe then you would have the luxury of being able 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:07.720 to address such a menial issue of zero national importance 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:08.920 in this country. 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:13.320 But you don't. This is just laughable. 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.200 This is not a serious leader, This is not a 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:17.240 serious man. 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:19.400 He should have just gone, I'm. 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.120 Not addressing that. What the heck have I got to 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.480 do with wombats, the fact that Tony Burk's coming out 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:29.120 so I'm revisiting her visa. Oh yeah, But detainees who 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:32.480 have literally murdered and raped people in our country, they 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:33.400 get to stay. 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.200 You won't, won't check. 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:42.600 Those guys out. This it's utterly laughable. 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:43.840 It's not even worth talking. 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:47.640 What about What about when Barnaby Joyce detained pistol and 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:49.320 boo from Johnny Depp and Amber heard? 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:51.600 Was that also ridiculous reaction? 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:51.960 Yeah? 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:52.160 It was. 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:59.120 Yes, she didn't do anything illegal, But I think Anthey 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.240 Alberizi took the opportunity there to try and unite all 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:06.320 Australians because he was, you know, empathetic towards this poor animal, 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:07.880 and he thought the winner. 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:11.119 Well, if you work in coms, it might be time 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:16.520 to diversify your skills because AI has announced that they've 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:21.160 got a wonderful model for creative writing and they're about 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.560 to release it. Can you imagine how many sectors this 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:28.760 puts out of a job? Sam Oltman, who's Open AI 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:32.240 chief exec, tweeted, We've trained a new model that is 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:36.439 good at creative writing. Not sure yet how when it 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:39.240 will get released. This is the first time I have 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:43.840 been really struck by something written by AI. It got 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:48.359 the vibe of metafiction. So right, So if you're a 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:52.680 script writer, if you work in comms anywhere, if you're 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:56.840 a journal you want to pay careful attention to when 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:02.080 and if, as sam Oltman says, this thing will be released, 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:04.880 because we've already talked at length about how this thing 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:07.600 can write a great email. If you're like I need 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:12.120 to fire fifty employees under these circumstances, write something that's 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:16.720 really professional, really polite. AI just spits it out within second. 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:22.680 There's a lot of people who have already been using this. 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:27.480 In fact, even if you're sending a DM or an email. Nowadays, 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:30.080 if you're on Instagram, if you're on Facebook, there's a 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:32.720 little AI helper saying, hey, do you just tell me 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:35.080 what you want to say? I'll write it for you. 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:36.960 And if you write it and you feel like it's 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:39.159 a little bit clumsy, you can just click on the 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:42.239 little AI symbol and AI will be like, here's a 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:46.760 better way of saying what you've said. People are loving this, 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:51.000 and were's human beings are losing the capacity to communicate 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:54.760 with each other at lightning speed. It's frightening. But when 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:59.920 you consider this being released a specific creative writing AI, 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.639 we're talking about a whole different kettle of fish, Like 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:06.399 this is its main job, it's what it's been trained 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:06.720 to do. 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:09.280 I don't think it's going to take off because it's 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:12.480 really not creative. It's an aggregate of what everybody else 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:16.000 has written, and it's really good until you realize it's AI. 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:19.840 And then who wants to read a novel written by AI? 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:26.480 Because the emotion is all fake the human experience when 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:30.200 you realize and I think we're wowed by what AI 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:35.000 can do, but the content becomes meaningless when it's just algorithms. 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:37.480 Really well, it does if you know that there algorithms, 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:39.520 they're plenty of people who buy I'm not being snobbish 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:41.240 about this or whatever, but you know, there are plenty 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:44.200 of best selling books that follow a really specific formula. 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.040 So you even have books that have the so called 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:49.159 author's name on the title, but it's not even written 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:52.160 by them. It's written by someone else, so like Tom Clancy, 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:55.439 you know, actually written by being another Jack whatever it is, 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:59.359 or something or one of them. I'm sure AI could 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:03.600 do that very easily. But again, this is already AI 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:05.640 is writing. It's writing emails. We know it can do that. 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:07.760 That actually makes sense because you say, all right, this 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:09.520 is you respond to this stimulus. 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:10.720 Based on everything you've aggregated from the web. 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:14.040 We know that AI is already writing journalism, so it's 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:17.240 writing things like sports reports and you probably read it 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:20.080 without even knowing that. But to be able to do 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:25.640 actual creative writing, to be able to write something that 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:27.919 is meant to and the whole purpose of creative writing 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:30.520 is that it makes the reader feel empathy with the 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:33.480