1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Well, Hello, healthy is shit? Listeners? How are you? Hope 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: you have had a awesome week? 3 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 2: Yes, as this EP drops on a Friday, we are 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 2: talking about the hottest topics in the health and monos 5 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: world this week. I'm Felicity Harley and joining me is 6 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: our fabulous digital editor Holly Berkelman. 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: Holly, how are you? Thanks for joining us today? 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 3: Hello, Hi FLOS, I'm well. How are you going good? 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: How has your week being? Healthysh Actually you're in Melbourne? 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: How was that? 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 3: I was in malven Melbourne is fantastic. It was probably 12 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: better for the soul than the body because I ate 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: so much on that trip. I went out just so 14 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 3: many restaurants, so many cafes, had the most incredible march 15 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 3: of strawberry latte. I had the best time. It was great. 16 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: You were living the Ish. 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 3: I sure did, and god I love the Ish. 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all about the Ish with some health on 19 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: the side. 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 3: And how are you FLI. 21 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: Oh well, I'm a bit exhausted. 22 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: I just pumped out fourteen k's this morning because, as 23 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 2: you know, and some listeners might know, I am training 24 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: for a half marathon at the beginning of October, and 25 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: fourteen k's is a lot. 26 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: It was a long way. 27 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: But flits is actually not doing ish Flix is just 28 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: doing the health part. 29 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: But I'm exhausted today. I'm exhausted. I just want to go. 30 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 3: You basically just ran the city to save this morning. 31 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: Do you know what I kept thinking that as I 32 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 2: was running, I'm like, this is a city, sef. I'm 33 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: doing the city to the serf that was my self top. 34 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: Just on a regular, a regular Friday morning. 35 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 2: Now, tell us about you, what's been intriguing you, and 36 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: we'll also the readers this week. 37 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 3: So my pick of the week is a story by 38 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:51,279 Speaker 3: contributor Ashley Lowe, which is hercle Da Kling is twenty 39 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 3: twenty four's answer to bedrotting. Have you had of Harkle Dakling? Please? 40 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: Halle, can you please say that three times? 41 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 3: I actian, So thanks for asking. I will respectfully decline. 42 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 3: But this is a great story. So we know that 43 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 3: every year a new self care trend sweeps the internet, 44 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: claiming to be the answer to our health and well being. 45 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 3: Low Its probably not even every year at the moment, 46 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: every week we. 47 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: Talk about on this podcast. 48 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: Last year bedrotting was a massive deal that went viral. 49 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 3: I actually spoke on BBC Radio Overseas about bed rotting. 50 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 3: That's how viral it went. Now and this and not 51 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 3: was insane. But this year's solution, or this week's solution 52 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 3: is herkle durkling, which would you believe? It has actually 53 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 3: come from an old Scottish term, and it means to 54 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 3: lie in bed or lounge about long after the time 55 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: it should be up. Is that what you would have 56 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: thought that meant, because it's certainly not what I would 57 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 3: have guessed. 58 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: But I am one hundred percent into herkle durkling. I'm 59 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: here for this. 60 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 3: I'm a huge fan of the herkle durkle. But it's 61 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: important to note it is more than just a sleep in. 62 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 3: I always say lie in, but I think that's quite 63 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: English to say lie in sleeping. It's more than just 64 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: a sleep in and less than a bed rot which 65 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: saw us lying in bed the days on end. So 66 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 3: herkle durkling is kind of lingering in bed for short 67 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 3: periods of time after you wake, taking stock of the 68 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 3: morning and just relaxing, rather than hurrying about your routine 69 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 3: and immediately immersing yourself in the to do list. So 70 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: it's kind of rooted in rest and relaxation, giving yourself 71 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 3: these small moments of self love and the permission to 72 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: slow down. Whereas bedrotting, you know, that's about really locking 73 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: in for a long time, which is possibly not great 74 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: for your mental health sometimes, even though we do all 75 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: other bed rot day. So Ashley's got five tips for 76 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: nailing herkle grekling, which are Number one, book in time 77 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: to hycle durkle, so you don't have anything rushing you 78 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: and trying to get you out of bed before you 79 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: want to leave. Secondly is to set the time limit 80 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: because as we know, lying in beddle day is not 81 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: great for you mentally or physically really, so put a 82 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: time limit on it and then really lock in. It's 83 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: not about catching up on sleep, so don't think that 84 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 3: it's a substitute for real proper rest. Use your heir 85 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: cale durkle time wisely. So if you've been struggling to 86 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: find time to journal or meditation or something, this is 87 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: a great time to do that. And number five, don't 88 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 3: take it too seriously. It's not that deep. It's another 89 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 3: one of those TikTok trends that you can have a 90 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 3: bit of fun with and if you like Hercle Durkling, 91 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: then go for it. And if you don't, then also fun. 92 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: I'm totally into Herkle Durkling with a good book. It's 93 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: just like lying in bed with a good book. 94 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 3: I love it. I love a bit of TikTok time 95 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 3: on the Hercle Durkle. 96 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: Oh TikTok? Is that counterintuitive? Your mind's still kind of active? 97 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: Is it about calming your mind? Or you can actually TikTok? 98 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,119 Speaker 1: Of course you can TikTok. It's a tictical trend. 99 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 3: I think you can because it's a TikTok trend. But 100 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: absolutely you're probably we should do something with more analogue. 101 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 3: But you know, maybe it's mindful tea top time pleas. 102 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: That'll be the next week street that's. 103 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 3: It, Yeah, exactly, let's put that tuned. I'll slash that 104 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: one out before next week's emisode. 105 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: I want to share, well, something a bit more upbeat 106 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: and lively. Perhaps this new study that came out of 107 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 2: UNI of South Australia that basically concluded that just fifteen 108 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: minutes a day of exercise can transform your health. Now, 109 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: let me get to the fifteen in a minute. It's 110 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: interesting when I was thinking about this. We sent us 111 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: so much exercise around the hour and the hour of 112 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: reaping the benefits of that sixty minute. So we go 113 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: to a hit class for an hour, we might go 114 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: for an hour swim, we might not for a long run, 115 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: or there's something about the hour. 116 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: But for many that is why do we do that? 117 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 2: I mean, of course there's the forty five and everything, 118 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: but there's still something about that time frame. But the 119 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: thing about that is many of us struggle to fit 120 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 2: in and ours exercise. We've got no time, no energy, 121 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: and so we don't do anything. So that is why 122 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 2: I love this new research out of UNI of South Australia. 123 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: It was publishing in the journal Healthcare, and it found that, 124 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: as I said, fifteen minutes of daily exercise can boost 125 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: not only your fitness but your energy, sleep and mood. 126 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: So let's just like fifteen minutes, that's. 127 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: All you need. 128 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 3: Fifteen minutes is like four songs, that's nothing. 129 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: Exactly exactly. I'll tell you what. 130 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 2: I had a lot more than four songs when I 131 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: was running fourteen anyway. 132 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's funny. I ran out of playlist. I thought, right, 133 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: I need more. 134 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 3: Songs oh that's rare. 135 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: Anyway, let me tell you a bit more about the study. 136 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: So it focused particularly on wellness in the workplace, and 137 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: it took data from nearly twelve thousand participants across you know, Australia, 138 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 2: New Zealand and UK, but companies. So it was about 139 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: this work place wellness program called the fifteen Minute Challenge. 140 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: I'm not sure whether you've heard of this. 141 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: I hadn't. Have you heard of it a whole? 142 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 3: No, I haven't. 143 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: Basically, it's a six week online workplace activity and there's 144 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: an app and then employees from different workplaces form teams 145 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: and it gets competitive and then you log your time 146 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: that you exercise into the app and then you compete 147 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: against people from different workplaces in different countries. 148 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: So it took all the. 149 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: Data from that and basically it found that just fifteen 150 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: minutes of exercise reaped benefits in obviously fitness, health, energy, 151 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: sleep and mood. So thirty six percent met exercise guidelines, 152 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: but nearly sixty percent exceeded them. 153 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: So wow, it was It's just so simple. 154 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: So maybe it's probably the gamification of fitness, the fun, 155 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: competitiveness and just getting outside during your work day. I 156 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: mean it does help improve your health. 157 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: It does. I just think fifteen minutes as well. It 158 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: really lowers the barrier to access for doing fitness, which 159 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 3: is fantastic. So if you keep going also like, that's great, 160 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: but if you just do fifteen minutes, then fantastic. 161 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're still getting benefits anyway, Just quickly before we go, 162 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: give us a quick rundown and most clicked story of 163 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: the week. 164 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: Top story for the week was three steps to losing fat, 165 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 3: not muscle according to a dietitian, and that was written 166 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: by a dietitian, Susie Burrow. So losing weight isn't everyone's 167 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 3: health goal, and nor should it be. But if you 168 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 3: are looking to lose weight, then you want to make 169 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: sure you're going about it the right way and that 170 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 3: you're burning fat rather than losing muscle mass, which is 171 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 3: particularly bad as you get older. So Susie suggests the 172 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 3: following steps. Number one is don't cut the carbs completely. 173 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 3: Carbohydrates are the primary fuel for the muscles and the brain, 174 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 3: so you want to make sure that you're still getting that. Know, 175 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 3: the power of protein. Protein helps to keep your muscle 176 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: density on track even if you are still losing a little, 177 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 3: but you really want to make sure that you're dosing 178 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 3: up on protein because it also keeps you fall off 179 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 3: for longern and then train your muscles. You really want 180 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: to make sure that you keep going with the strength 181 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 3: training so that you yeah, keep your muscles moving and 182 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: keep trying to grow them even if you are losing. 183 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: Overall maths good of us, Thanks HOLLI see you next week. 184 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: I'll see you next week. 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