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Speaker 1: This podcast was recorded on wundry Land Always was, always

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Speaker 1: will be Aboriginal Landis. I'm sal keep that in And

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Speaker 1: this is a Rochis life lessons and tips to make

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Speaker 1: you rich in life. And we are joined by the beautiful, amazing, stunning, Brave,

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Speaker 1: Gem and Diamond today.

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Speaker 2: Thank you what a thrill. That was a real gusher.

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Speaker 1: We don't every felt more.

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Speaker 2: Gusher than usual because it's in the flesh.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to impress you.

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Speaker 2: You're like, and that's a wrap tick, That's that's all

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Speaker 2: I've got.

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Speaker 1: But you are I was going to say, a man

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Speaker 1: a jack of many trades?

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Speaker 2: Is that the same jack of all tropes? Just kidding?

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Speaker 1: But today we've got you on to talk about fash

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Speaker 1: We're going to some style tips, shopping tips, all the

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Speaker 1: tips from you, just the tip, just the tip. We're

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Speaker 1: very excited, but before we get into it, we start

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Speaker 1: with a life lesson.

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Speaker 2: Of the way.

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Speaker 1: So would you like to kick us off?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 3: I found this is an old old TikTok video. The

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Speaker 3: creator's name is Denisha Carter. She gets so much hate

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Speaker 3: because she's so beautiful that all of the comments are

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Speaker 3: like you must be ai, which like what that's the

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Speaker 3: problem to have.

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Speaker 2: That's what people come into my photos all the time.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, may imagine. I don't think it's a compliment,

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Speaker 3: Doing a video about I don't even know what the

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Speaker 3: this because it's she was talking about. When you post

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Speaker 3: something on the Internet and you have a very clear

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Speaker 3: point that you're trying to get across and someone wants

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Speaker 3: to argue with you, and instinct tells us like, no, no,

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Speaker 3: I want to explain my point further. What they're trying

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Speaker 3: to argue has absolutely nothing to do with what you

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Speaker 3: were saying. Yep, the quote that I pulled from it.

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Speaker 3: I can't compete with the voices in your head, nor

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Speaker 3: will I waste the airtime or give you the clout

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Speaker 3: of going back and forth with you. I'm no longer

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Speaker 3: responding to clarify things that were crystal clear in the

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Speaker 2: Boom fucking Mike drops. Yeah. So I'm just not arguing.

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Speaker 3: You know what.

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Speaker 1: We need to create some sort of thing in the

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Speaker 1: Instagram and TikTok comments where we can like automatically go

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Speaker 1: back to me in comments saying that exactly we always

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Speaker 1: say like, you're not allowed to make me feel bad

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Speaker 1: on the phone that I pay for love that.

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Speaker 2: Oh I love that. Put that shit on shirt, but

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Speaker 2: that ship, I've got it tattooed on my lower the

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Speaker 2: whole paragraph. I love that. I love that. What's your

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Speaker 2: life lesson?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: My life lesson.

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Speaker 4: I was telling sal about it the other day and

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Speaker 4: I was saying how sometimes you don't need to like

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Speaker 4: know the plot twist of like everything, because I whenever

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Speaker 2: Stories, what the is?

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Speaker 1: And I'm like literally trying to that.

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Speaker 4: I don't end up like enjoying the book or like

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Speaker 1: Like, oh, I mean yeah, like literally taking notes.

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Speaker 4: And then anyway, I was reading this book and I

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Speaker 2: I see it? Ye see it now?

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Speaker 4: I love like fantasy smart just to give you a

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Speaker 1: My life lesson of the week is another gem from

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Speaker 1: the Instagram pages that we love data but making Oh no,

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Speaker 3: Alex is going to run away and you might have

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Speaker 3: seen this, I mean was my favorite account.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you'll love this. Apparently the Gucci belt is back.

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Speaker 1: I have not seen this, so okay, she did a

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Speaker 2: I don't own ones, I don't.

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Speaker 1: The thing about the Gucci Marmont belt specifically, we always

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Speaker 1: But if you just but if you're just buying it

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Speaker 2: Put your shit on the shirt, sow. But she's back, baby,

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Speaker 2: It's a wild start. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm excited to see because she's going to

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Speaker 1: I can afford it, maybe a vintage one if I

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Speaker 1: Well, now that we've got our life lessons out of

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Speaker 2: Into the episode. Let's do it.

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Speaker 4: So on your TikTok, you've called yourself a minimalist dresser.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I how this kind of came to be,

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Speaker 3: I mean, Gucci belt was a really nice served me

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Speaker 3: And then when I started buying these more timeless, if

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Speaker 2: It takes the stress out of it. I feel like

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Speaker 2: a Yeah, who were some of your style likeons, Rosie

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Speaker 3: I mean, if we go way way back, Jane Burkin,

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Speaker 3: everything Mary Kate can actually do. And it is so

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Speaker 3: upsetting that they're never papped anymore because I just want

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Speaker 1: I follow a few fan accounts that will occasionally get

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Speaker 1: like the paparazzi picks and it would be.

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Speaker 2: So burns teeth.

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Speaker 1: I save everyone though.

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Speaker 1: When Mary Kate was wearing that like long leopard coat

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Speaker 1: I know you were Vogue for your wedding. Yes, that

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be right in that way.

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Speaker 3: That link is still I do, ye, but yeah, No,

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Speaker 2: Simple chic forever. I love that.

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Speaker 1: So what would you say to people who think that

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Speaker 3: I probably correct, but I just I don't care. Not

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Speaker 3: Normally I would have been like, you know nothing, you're

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Speaker 2: He got into my I.

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Speaker 3: Guess I've probably had a couple of margaritas at lunch,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very much experience truly love it.

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Speaker 3: So it probably is boring, but it's saving me coin

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Speaker 3: in the long run. Gifting aside, which is like a

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Speaker 3: And when you just catalog your wardrobe and then you

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Speaker 3: Or you can do the share from Clueless thing and

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Speaker 4: That's like that mean, it's like, where are you from?

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Speaker 3: I think for me it's just got instinct, Like if

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Speaker 2: I'm like the anti impulse shopper. Do you have any hacks?

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Speaker 3: I got that app carted very good because I just

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Speaker 3: So I'm not going to spend a fortune on a

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Speaker 4: Literally, and I feel like I stain everything in one way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's gone, yeah, especially white.

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Speaker 4: That's like the statement piece. Yeah, that's the Gharney T shirt.

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Speaker 3: But if you're trying to save money, why would you

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Speaker 3: go out and buy a whole new headgete outfit. Look

446
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Speaker 3: at what you've already got in your wardrobe, play around

447
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Speaker 3: set aside a day, which I know is so annoying,

448
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Speaker 3: but try all you can do it with a friend.

449
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Speaker 1: Like yeah, like the Sex and the City movie when

450
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Speaker 1: she's doing like the inn or out in the.

451
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Speaker 4: Wardrobe and everyone was always like, keep.

452
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Speaker 2: Yes, that's me. I love that.

453
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Speaker 3: But just try stuff on, work out what you can

454
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 3: mix and match, how many different purposes is this serving?

455
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Speaker 3: And then there'll be maybe a couple of gaps and

456
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Speaker 3: then fill those.

457
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Speaker 2: But don't go out and do like an overhaul.

458
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Speaker 4: I think the thing that people struggle with a lot

459
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Speaker 4: as well is getting a bit bored of their wardrobe,

460
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Speaker 4: like you know, and it is because you're seeing it's

461
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Speaker 4: the consumption on social media and seeing so many different

462
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Speaker 4: styles and trends.

463
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Speaker 1: It is really easy to get a little bit bored.

464
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Speaker 4: So do you have any tips on how to get

465
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Speaker 4: out of a fashion rut?

466
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Speaker 2: I think again, it's the same thing.

467
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Speaker 3: Yeah, find whatever item you're feeling a little bit tired

468
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Speaker 3: and bored of, and then think about, Okay, what a

469
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 3: different ways that I can style this. If you've then

470
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Speaker 3: styled it in a bunch of different ways that you

471
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Speaker 3: hadn't thought of before, and you're still like, eh, I'm

472
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 3: on the fence about this, get rid of it. Don't

473
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Speaker 3: keep stuff in your wardrobe that is uninspiring to you

474
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Speaker 3: because it's just going to gather dust. And like, clothes

475
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 3: exist to be worn. It's not helping anyone if it's

476
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Speaker 3: just hanging there in your wardrobe. But just try different

477
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 3: ways to style it.

478
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Speaker 4: I also think that about clothes that make you feel

479
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Speaker 4: bad about yourself.

480
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I refuse.

481
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Speaker 4: Like Salem, I've spoken about this before as well. And

482
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Speaker 4: it's like having the bag of clothes that you're like,

483
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Speaker 4: oh like when I look a certain way, I can

484
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Speaker 4: and you hold onto it and it just is sitting

485
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 4: there making you feel bad about yourself, and it's like,

486
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Speaker 4: get rid of it friendship.

487
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Speaker 2: You guys should write a book about Actually, that's crazy

488
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Speaker 2: that you brought that up.

489
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Speaker 4: Many best friend my friends and if you get it,

490
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Speaker 4: if you know, you know.

491
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

492
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Speaker 1: So we actually get this question all the time from

493
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Speaker 1: the chicks because we do a series called Online Shot

494
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Speaker 1: with Us where we ask people to send in like

495
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Speaker 1: what they're looking for, what's on their wish list, and

496
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: we either find a good deal, sale, or just a

497
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Speaker 1: really good pick.

498
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Speaker 2: And it's tips for the.

499
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Speaker 1: Tall girlies, especially jeans. So what are your what are

500
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Speaker 1: your tall girl approved brands?

501
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is the most annoying recommendation because this

502
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 3: is like second mortgage stuff. But silver, like denim is

503
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 3: so good. But I have two pairs of silver Lake

504
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 3: jeans and both of them I bought because I had vouchers.

505
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 2: So you have a voucher for a store that's you cheated, cheated.

506
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Speaker 3: Fashion Jail Penny's great and also Sammy Robinson's one Mile.

507
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Speaker 3: They do so tall, they do everything in two different lengths.

508
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Speaker 3: And she's just brought out denim and it's like it's

509
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Speaker 3: long on me and I am five nine and a

510
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Speaker 3: little Wow, that's so cool.

511
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know that and I think it can

512
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Speaker 1: be a bit frustrating because I know it's like two

513
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Speaker 1: short girls as well. For denim specifically, there aren't that

514
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Speaker 1: many brands that have petee.

515
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

516
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Speaker 4: For you know, I say there's more than tall, but

517
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Speaker 4: there's more and you can take away. Yeah, you can

518
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 4: take it, but you can't give it exactly, you know.

519
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 4: But I've noticed that with a lot of the.

520
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: Like Tall Girl brands, they sometimes do seem to be

521
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Speaker 1: a little bit more expensive. But I think if you

522
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: can find a pair of jeans which, like we've said,

523
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: is such a classic piece that will fit you perfectly,

524
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: that is worth the investment rather than buying like an

525
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: ill fitting pair of jeans time and time again.

526
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Speaker 2: Totally.

527
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did see another Alison Bornstein tip. I feel

528
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Speaker 3: like finding I hadn't really thought about it like this.

529
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Speaker 3: You're always going to be looking for better denim. You

530
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 3: can have the most amazing pair of jeans you've ever worn,

531
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Speaker 3: and you're still going to be out and about, like,

532
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Speaker 3: but you know what would make them better?

533
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Speaker 2: That is me. Yeah, that's why I have seventy two pairs.

534
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Speaker 4: But yeah, I feel like I have kicked the habit

535
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Speaker 4: of it because I did find like perfect pairs of

536
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Speaker 4: jeans and I'm like, Okay.

537
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Speaker 2: You know what, what's your perfect pair? So fate the

538
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Speaker 2: label nice. I love them amazing.

539
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Speaker 4: And then the Rider's curve jeans as well, those are

540
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 4: really good for girlies and therefore like bigger hips to

541
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Speaker 4: a smaller waist ratio. But what I will say with

542
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Speaker 4: that is it goes up to an eighteen that I

543
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Speaker 4: don't really know if you can call it up to

544
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Speaker 4: an eighteen a curve range, but I would love to

545
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Speaker 4: see more sizes in that episode of Yeah, honestly, that's

546
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 4: like my critique of that. But I do really love them,

547
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Speaker 4: and yeah, I think those are the two that I'm like, smash.

548
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Speaker 1: Those are my smash special buffs like gvercial crush jans.

549
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Speaker 5: No, seriously, with the trauma of trying on jeans in

550
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 5: a store, let me just bite online try it on

551
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 5: at home so I can cry in private line. Because

552
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 5: as well, you go into a store and you get

553
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Speaker 5: three different styles and you've got three different sizes.

554
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Speaker 3: I don't remember the last time I tried denim on

555
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 3: exiting r. You know that worse is swimwear or don't.

556
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Speaker 2: Even start as f cups.

557
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Speaker 3: That's my my issue is because I'm told I'm also

558
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 3: long in the body. So like Cameltoe City, if I

559
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 3: get the wrong what's the bit from the.

560
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, the same, Yeah, that's the one.

561
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Speaker 2: There we go.

562
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that was the technical term what you had. Yeah,

563
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: see like where the opposite?

564
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Speaker 2: Whereas like my jeans if they're too high waist, I'm like,

565
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Speaker 2: why are you one of my tits? It's like a

566
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 2: body suit.

567
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: I feel like those two twins from Alice in Wonderland

568
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: Tradle Day.

569
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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So one final question, which so I really

570
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Speaker 4: wanted to ask.

571
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Speaker 2: I don't want to go. I have to come back

572
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:47,959
Speaker 2: on regular guests regular. I love this, I can do anytime.

573
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, I did have a burning question because I

574
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Speaker 1: saw an article that you wrote and you were talking

575
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Speaker 1: about like your top three favorite products. Yep is the

576
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: six hundred and ten dollars Lamaire moisturizer.

577
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 2: Worth it.

578
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 3: It's a nuanced answer, I'm afraid, but I will say

579
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 3: I will never, with any any beauty product except sunscreen,

580
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 3: say that something is I must have never, ever, ever,

581
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 3: ever ever in my life.

582
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: That cream.

583
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 3: I love it because I have a working relationship with

584
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 3: the brand.

585
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 2: It's beautiful.

586
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 3: I went on a Singapore trip with them last year,

587
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 3: and I have even more respect for the humble brag,

588
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 3: even more respect for the brand now that I know,

589
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 3: like the every tub of it is hand poured they did.

590
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 3: I could go on, we might do a bonus episode

591
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 3: just on this. It's kind of like a sour dough

592
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 3: starter because there's this miracle broth from decades ago, and

593
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 3: every pot of the moisturizer, like the last there's a

594
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 3: drop of the previous batch of the miracle broth, and

595
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 3: then that it's crazy.

596
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 2: It's giving fountain of youth. I'm actually my late seventies.

597
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: This is what people do. But is it going to

598
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 2: like totally change your skin? No?

599
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 3: I think for six hundred dollars there are plenty of

600
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 3: other things that you can do. If you are a

601
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: person who has six hundred dollars of disposable income and

602
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 3: is obsessed with beauty, go for it. I think the

603
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 3: best products are the ones that you want to use,

604
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 3: and if that's going to get you to put a

605
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 3: moisturizer on, awesome. If you don't have six hundred dollars,

606
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 3: by no means, In fact, even if you do, by

607
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 3: no means, is that I must have nothing is.

608
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: Did you hate it when you liked it? Yeah? Literally?

609
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,959
Speaker 1: Ever, I know there isn't a direct dupe, but what

610
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: would be a go to moisturizer on a budget that

611
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: you would suggest?

612
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: I mean, budget is such a difficult one. It is,

613
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Speaker 2: I sort of mid way down the line. Obviously. I

614
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: don't let Chris use the lamaire if he don't even

615
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 2: like Chris in the bathroom in the rain.

616
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's and that's what I've sure his kin

617
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: looks great unfortunately. Yeah, anyway, Chris uses the Keels the

618
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: that just got obsessed with it and then probably cheaper

619
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 3: than that. Sarah V is great and that's got a

620
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: similar kind of creamy consistency as well. Yeah.

621
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: I love that heavyweight moisturize.

622
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: That's what I need.

623
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 3: Dry drag, early exclusive, that's the word we used to

624
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 3: lock it all in.

625
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: I like that it's not using that.

626
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 4: Okay, I actually lied before We have one more final,

627
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 4: but what's been your biggest life lesson on your fashion

628
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 4: journey so far?

629
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Speaker 2: Oh?

630
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 3: I think just where what you feel comfortable in. I

631
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 3: was talking about this at fashion Week and actually to

632
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 3: Tender was saying it as well, and I resonated, Oh, God.

633
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 3: She could say literally anything to her voice for like

634
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: the obsessed with her, but she exactly what she was saying.

635
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 3: I have done the same thing in that. Like I

636
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 3: been rolling around fashion week for six hundred and four years.

637
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 3: There was a time when I was like rend cocktail dresses.

638
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 3: I'm in color and lace and body con, which and I.

639
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: Look at these photos. I can't like I had a

640
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: bandage dress.

641
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: You can see how I'm comfortable in the Yeah, in

642
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: the photos, I'm like, that girl is miserable.

643
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: It really is.

644
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 3: And then and I would be like just hankering for

645
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 3: someone to take my photo. I'm pretending to make a

646
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 3: phone call out the front so that I haven't read Yeah, like, girlfriend,

647
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 3: go inside, you've arrived to see your show, Sit the

648
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 3: fuck down. But I'm standing out the front, going, oh

649
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 3: is my friend over there? I better walk in front

650
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 3: of this photographer And then don't want to take my

651
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 3: picture because I looked shit like that's that's not even

652
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 3: me fishing.

653
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 2: But I did not look good.

654
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 3: Now, I just wear whatever's in my wardrobe that I

655
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 3: feel great in. I just dress how I would day

656
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 3: to day. I have the best time. I'm having a

657
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 3: good time all the time because I'm not adjusting myself

658
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 3: and trying to like tuck my body spanks back in Bodyicondre.

659
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: This is like the cheesiest thing ever.

660
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: But confidence is the best accessory.

661
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 2: It is, but that don't share it.

662
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I've got that under the other lower back tattoo.

663
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. And that one's got a butterfly on either side

664
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: of it. That yeah, sigh. I love that.

665
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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for joining us.

666
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: So much more.

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Speaker 4: No one's got plans after this, right, come on, no.

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Speaker 2: No, we love it.

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Speaker 1: But for any of the chicks who don't already follow you,

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Speaker 1: where can they find you?

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Speaker 3: They can find me on Instagram and TikTok at gem

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Speaker 3: Diamond Diamond without the A, which is probably for the

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Speaker 3: best because otherwise people would be like, bitch, you made

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Speaker 3: this up, not your surname Gem Diamond, and also on

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Speaker 3: the Glow Journal podcast, which is interviews with founders of

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Speaker 3: beauty rants.

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Speaker 1: Love incredible so much, Thanks so much for coming on,

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Speaker 1: and thanks to you chicks for having us in your earhells,

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Speaker 1: we love to be here. And thank you to am

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Speaker 1: I made and producer for making today's episode happened like

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Speaker 1: bye check bye