1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:13,321 Speaker 1: Apodjay production. We begin today by acknowledging the traditional custodians 2 00:00:13,361 --> 00:00:15,801 Speaker 1: of the land on which we gather today and pay 3 00:00:15,841 --> 00:00:19,041 Speaker 1: our respects to their elders past and present. We extend 4 00:00:19,041 --> 00:00:22,881 Speaker 1: that respect to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people's here today. 5 00:00:25,081 --> 00:00:28,801 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Grow and Glow Podcast. I'm Ashy, I'm Kiara. 6 00:00:28,961 --> 00:00:31,321 Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we learn, laugh, and level 7 00:00:31,361 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: up together. Let's go deep, let the emotions flow, and 8 00:00:34,281 --> 00:00:37,121 Speaker 1: find the lessons to grow and Glow. Nothing is off 9 00:00:37,161 --> 00:00:38,761 Speaker 1: the table with Grow and Glow and we're here to 10 00:00:38,961 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: be your expander. Hello, welcome back to Grow and Glow. 11 00:00:46,281 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: So we're back with Levi. If you missed out on 12 00:00:48,441 --> 00:00:51,281 Speaker 1: our Monday episode, please go back and listen to it. 13 00:00:51,361 --> 00:00:53,761 Speaker 1: We discussed all things trauma as much as we could 14 00:00:53,801 --> 00:00:56,121 Speaker 1: in a forty minute episode. Obviously, it's a very in 15 00:00:56,161 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: depth topic and there's just so much to take in 16 00:00:59,921 --> 00:01:01,921 Speaker 1: and learn, and like we said in the episode, it's 17 00:01:01,921 --> 00:01:03,481 Speaker 1: a very trendy word right now, but it's just so 18 00:01:03,521 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: important that we all get to know ourselves and unpack 19 00:01:05,721 --> 00:01:08,601 Speaker 1: our past and really learn what's holding us back and 20 00:01:08,681 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: why we are the way that we are. We're all 21 00:01:10,601 --> 00:01:14,361 Speaker 1: such complex humans, messy humans. But today we're going to 22 00:01:14,401 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: be chatting with Levi, So welcome back to the show, Lebay. 23 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:17,401 Speaker 1: How are you feeling today? 24 00:01:17,961 --> 00:01:19,681 Speaker 2: I'm feeling wonderful, amazing. 25 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,721 Speaker 1: Today we're actually going to be kind of tapping back 26 00:01:22,761 --> 00:01:24,841 Speaker 1: onto Monday's episodes, so if you haven't listened to that, 27 00:01:24,881 --> 00:01:26,601 Speaker 1: we recommend going to listen to that first. But when 28 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,561 Speaker 1: we're talking about the pain that's associated with trauma, so 29 00:01:30,601 --> 00:01:33,521 Speaker 1: emotional pain, physical pain, so we're really going to unpack 30 00:01:33,601 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: that today. So as a coach, what would you say, 31 00:01:36,761 --> 00:01:39,041 Speaker 1: is there like a more common type of pain that 32 00:01:39,081 --> 00:01:40,961 Speaker 1: you see a lot of your clients come through with. 33 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,681 Speaker 2: Well, I mean there's so many different pains, right, And 34 00:01:44,241 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: you can have gut pain, which is so common like 35 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: ibs that that people have got so much pain. You've 36 00:01:50,201 --> 00:01:54,001 Speaker 2: got endometriosis, which has pain associated with all the time. 37 00:01:54,481 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: You've got headache pain, migrain, you've got lower back pain, 38 00:01:58,561 --> 00:02:01,841 Speaker 2: you've got knee pain, You've got pretty much every single 39 00:02:01,881 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: disease or condition can have pain asociated with it, and 40 00:02:06,761 --> 00:02:11,761 Speaker 2: sometimes conditions don't have pain associated but they're horrendously disastrous. 41 00:02:11,841 --> 00:02:15,721 Speaker 2: But pain is just exhausting when you've got pain associated 42 00:02:15,761 --> 00:02:19,401 Speaker 2: with something, your energy levels are just so low all 43 00:02:19,441 --> 00:02:22,001 Speaker 2: the time. It's just so fatiguing, and it's just like 44 00:02:22,121 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: carrying like a heavy weight with you all day every day. 45 00:02:26,321 --> 00:02:29,561 Speaker 2: So people in pain. It can be jaw pain, it 46 00:02:29,601 --> 00:02:32,721 Speaker 2: can be teeth pain, it can be eye pain. Like seriously, 47 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: you know, there's so much pain in the world, and 48 00:02:37,401 --> 00:02:41,321 Speaker 2: that's sort of where I see that pain is connected 49 00:02:41,361 --> 00:02:43,441 Speaker 2: to that block stress in the body. 50 00:02:43,561 --> 00:02:45,601 Speaker 1: It takes over even like you said, if you've got 51 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,761 Speaker 1: period pain or headache or a toothache or back pain, 52 00:02:49,841 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: it literally is like I had neck pain a couple 53 00:02:51,841 --> 00:02:54,041 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and I found it so hard to 54 00:02:54,081 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: function and concentrate and just enjoy the day to day 55 00:02:57,201 --> 00:03:00,681 Speaker 1: things because it was all I could feel and think about. Definitely, 56 00:03:00,721 --> 00:03:03,201 Speaker 1: and so many women as well with period pain, like 57 00:03:03,281 --> 00:03:05,041 Speaker 1: I know how I used to be. I was down 58 00:03:05,121 --> 00:03:06,921 Speaker 1: and out, Like two days, I felt like I didn't 59 00:03:06,921 --> 00:03:09,481 Speaker 1: even want to leave my house because of the pain, bleeding, 60 00:03:09,641 --> 00:03:12,361 Speaker 1: like all those different things that were associated with the 61 00:03:12,401 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: periods as well. One percent years ago, I had really 62 00:03:16,161 --> 00:03:18,041 Speaker 1: bad back pain. I thought it was just from carrying 63 00:03:18,121 --> 00:03:20,201 Speaker 1: Taj all the time, and I went to see Taylor 64 00:03:20,281 --> 00:03:22,681 Speaker 1: Cecil who coached me for a few years. But I 65 00:03:22,721 --> 00:03:25,081 Speaker 1: remember first, when I hadn't heard of I suppose this 66 00:03:25,161 --> 00:03:27,881 Speaker 1: way of healing. I went to and being like, my 67 00:03:27,921 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: back's fucking broken. I need help fixing it. And yes, 68 00:03:30,841 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: we worked on the physical and we had day to 69 00:03:33,601 --> 00:03:36,161 Speaker 1: day stretches and different things that he did with my body, 70 00:03:36,201 --> 00:03:39,321 Speaker 1: but so much of it he was saying was emotional, 71 00:03:39,361 --> 00:03:40,801 Speaker 1: and I was like, no, it's not. I've just hurt 72 00:03:40,841 --> 00:03:43,081 Speaker 1: my back being carrying this big, heavy baby for years. 73 00:03:43,121 --> 00:03:45,881 Speaker 1: But honestly, like, once we get cleared a lot of 74 00:03:45,881 --> 00:03:48,721 Speaker 1: my emotions that I was feeling and going through at 75 00:03:48,721 --> 00:03:51,721 Speaker 1: that time and digging up the past, like it's crazy 76 00:03:51,761 --> 00:03:54,321 Speaker 1: how quickly the pain went away. And that's where I 77 00:03:54,401 --> 00:03:57,241 Speaker 1: really got to experience similar work to what you do. 78 00:03:57,361 --> 00:03:59,001 Speaker 1: Probably not as in depth as to what you do, 79 00:03:59,041 --> 00:04:01,561 Speaker 1: but it maybe really be like, holy Molly, we carry 80 00:04:01,601 --> 00:04:04,721 Speaker 1: so many emotions and stored energy in our hips, in 81 00:04:04,721 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: our back, in our bodies. So it's just incredible. 82 00:04:08,721 --> 00:04:10,441 Speaker 2: And when you think about it, based on what I 83 00:04:10,481 --> 00:04:14,841 Speaker 2: was saying last episode, pain is just another beautiful signal, right, 84 00:04:14,921 --> 00:04:18,121 Speaker 2: But it's just saying, hey there's inflammation here, or hey, 85 00:04:18,481 --> 00:04:21,121 Speaker 2: please don't keep thinking this way, or please don't keep 86 00:04:21,281 --> 00:04:24,481 Speaker 2: overloading yourself like this, or hey, three hours of sleep 87 00:04:24,521 --> 00:04:27,441 Speaker 2: isn't good enough. Can you please help me a little 88 00:04:27,481 --> 00:04:30,401 Speaker 2: bit recover? Right, And we don't listen to it, and 89 00:04:30,561 --> 00:04:32,441 Speaker 2: it sort of goes okay, a little bit of pain, 90 00:04:32,481 --> 00:04:34,721 Speaker 2: it shuts up, and then it goes okay, try this 91 00:04:34,761 --> 00:04:36,841 Speaker 2: fa size. I'm trying to tell you something again here, 92 00:04:37,281 --> 00:04:41,001 Speaker 2: pain or any of our conditions. You could be playing 93 00:04:41,081 --> 00:04:44,361 Speaker 2: tennis and you go over on your ankle and you've 94 00:04:44,361 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: got a certain amount of pain. Now, obviously that's a 95 00:04:46,801 --> 00:04:50,041 Speaker 2: contact thing. Whether you're saying your muscles a week because 96 00:04:50,041 --> 00:04:51,921 Speaker 2: you're not recovering, or you might be going through an 97 00:04:51,921 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: emotional stress, which is that's an association, but it is. 98 00:04:55,041 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: It's just a physical majority thing where the most of 99 00:04:57,561 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: my pain is just a response to a huge amount 100 00:05:00,001 --> 00:05:03,281 Speaker 2: of inflammation because I've torn a muscle or a ligament. Here, right, 101 00:05:03,721 --> 00:05:05,921 Speaker 2: we can have physical pain, we can have pain. That 102 00:05:06,041 --> 00:05:09,841 Speaker 2: was a great example Caura of period pain. The amount 103 00:05:09,841 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: of times that somebody's period pain has been fixed just 104 00:05:13,601 --> 00:05:17,161 Speaker 2: through taking magnesiums in can be six and all of 105 00:05:17,201 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: a sudden they come back and they're like, I'm a 106 00:05:18,961 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: different person. We haven't cleared any trauma, but it's just like, hey, 107 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,721 Speaker 2: during these times, I just need extra amount of this nutrient, right, 108 00:05:27,121 --> 00:05:29,481 Speaker 2: And because you haven't given that to me and you 109 00:05:29,521 --> 00:05:31,681 Speaker 2: haven't been able to, I'm going to throw out these 110 00:05:31,721 --> 00:05:34,281 Speaker 2: extra symptoms to say back, the fuck off, don't do 111 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,681 Speaker 2: as much work. And you're like, no, I can do 112 00:05:36,761 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 2: it through this, and a lot of women just push 113 00:05:38,841 --> 00:05:41,241 Speaker 2: right through. And as we become more connected to our 114 00:05:41,241 --> 00:05:43,881 Speaker 2: body and listening, etc. And I've seen that with you Ash, 115 00:05:43,921 --> 00:05:46,161 Speaker 2: you back off and it's like where you can life 116 00:05:46,161 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: happens obviously, but you sort of listen in and you go, 117 00:05:50,041 --> 00:05:51,521 Speaker 2: I can only be at a seven out of ten 118 00:05:51,601 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: during this period. Plus I need some extra sleep, I 119 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: may need some extra nutrients. And so a lot of 120 00:05:57,121 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: times we can resolve that pain or the excessive pain 121 00:06:00,521 --> 00:06:04,081 Speaker 2: for PMS, just with that extra supplementation. So we've got 122 00:06:04,281 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: there can be a physical cause of pain, there can 123 00:06:06,481 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: be a nutritional deficiency, but the majority of pain that 124 00:06:10,361 --> 00:06:13,561 Speaker 2: people go through is what we call chronic pain, and 125 00:06:13,641 --> 00:06:16,281 Speaker 2: chronic pain is really defined as anything that lasts over 126 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,401 Speaker 2: six months. Now again, I'm at that point with chronic 127 00:06:19,481 --> 00:06:22,481 Speaker 2: pain where I hate to use percentages, But I would 128 00:06:22,521 --> 00:06:26,921 Speaker 2: say ninety five percent of chronic pain is just an 129 00:06:27,041 --> 00:06:30,721 Speaker 2: unsafe nervous system. So it's fear in the body, and 130 00:06:31,161 --> 00:06:34,561 Speaker 2: majority of that isn't the food, and it's actually the 131 00:06:34,561 --> 00:06:37,001 Speaker 2: body is now, you know, which is really smart. It 132 00:06:37,001 --> 00:06:41,481 Speaker 2: goes I've perceived that this food, this causes the bloating, 133 00:06:41,841 --> 00:06:45,201 Speaker 2: and the bloating equals the pain initially, but it's now 134 00:06:45,241 --> 00:06:47,921 Speaker 2: just remembering that this is a condition, or this is 135 00:06:47,961 --> 00:06:51,121 Speaker 2: a position, or this is an emotion that causes this. 136 00:06:51,281 --> 00:06:54,361 Speaker 2: And so what we do to reverse that is show 137 00:06:54,401 --> 00:06:57,041 Speaker 2: the body that this is now safe and people can 138 00:06:57,081 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: now eat gluten again, they can now eat dairy again. 139 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:03,121 Speaker 2: An example is you know someone that walks in and 140 00:07:03,361 --> 00:07:05,601 Speaker 2: had been through almost everything, was just about to have 141 00:07:05,641 --> 00:07:09,721 Speaker 2: their backs like fused. They're having injections just to manage 142 00:07:09,761 --> 00:07:12,321 Speaker 2: the pain, and within really within an hour and a half, 143 00:07:12,361 --> 00:07:15,321 Speaker 2: they're touching their toes, they're swaying. In a session or 144 00:07:15,361 --> 00:07:18,081 Speaker 2: when you can use music and use vibration, we can 145 00:07:18,121 --> 00:07:20,721 Speaker 2: put you in a place using body up breathing so 146 00:07:20,761 --> 00:07:23,601 Speaker 2: that your nervous systems calm and I can help you 147 00:07:24,001 --> 00:07:26,361 Speaker 2: regulate the current emotions so you're in a great place, 148 00:07:26,681 --> 00:07:28,201 Speaker 2: so then we can do the movements and then you 149 00:07:28,241 --> 00:07:29,961 Speaker 2: can go back home and you're stressed or you're in 150 00:07:30,001 --> 00:07:33,441 Speaker 2: a shitty situation, and the pain can come back. And 151 00:07:33,481 --> 00:07:35,721 Speaker 2: that's where like sometimes you get a benefit and then 152 00:07:35,761 --> 00:07:38,361 Speaker 2: it comes back, and that's where we go, Aha, the 153 00:07:38,441 --> 00:07:41,321 Speaker 2: nervous system's not safe. Now we need to Actually it's 154 00:07:41,401 --> 00:07:43,881 Speaker 2: like a little light bulb that goes there's underlying trauma 155 00:07:43,961 --> 00:07:45,841 Speaker 2: or block stress there that we now have to release, 156 00:07:46,041 --> 00:07:49,001 Speaker 2: and when that's all gone, then the pain never comes back. 157 00:07:49,321 --> 00:07:52,441 Speaker 2: Anything short term up to six months. Really, it can 158 00:07:52,441 --> 00:07:54,801 Speaker 2: be just physical in a physical pain. Let's say I've 159 00:07:54,841 --> 00:07:59,161 Speaker 2: got a knee pain and I just keep doing squats 160 00:07:59,401 --> 00:08:02,881 Speaker 2: with an imbalanced muscles and I'm creating that inflammation all 161 00:08:02,921 --> 00:08:06,161 Speaker 2: the time, then that's also ys right. But when we're 162 00:08:06,201 --> 00:08:09,721 Speaker 2: talking about these long term standing things where it's a year, 163 00:08:09,801 --> 00:08:13,041 Speaker 2: two years, three is twenty years of just constant migraines 164 00:08:13,161 --> 00:08:16,561 Speaker 2: or constant pain. And what we have are these conditions 165 00:08:16,561 --> 00:08:18,201 Speaker 2: a lot of the time where someone will start with 166 00:08:18,281 --> 00:08:20,681 Speaker 2: IBS this is a pattern I've seen all the time. 167 00:08:20,721 --> 00:08:23,881 Speaker 2: Then they go to fibroma allergia, which is another condition 168 00:08:23,961 --> 00:08:27,441 Speaker 2: that's basically says it's pain from unknown causes right where 169 00:08:27,481 --> 00:08:30,641 Speaker 2: they have this idiopathic pain. And there's so many of 170 00:08:30,681 --> 00:08:34,281 Speaker 2: these diseases where the definition is we don't know why, 171 00:08:34,321 --> 00:08:36,241 Speaker 2: but it's just pain that we don't know in the 172 00:08:36,321 --> 00:08:39,361 Speaker 2: kidney or the bladder or the lung or the whatever. Basically, 173 00:08:39,401 --> 00:08:42,041 Speaker 2: when we see this pain, when we're trying to lean 174 00:08:42,121 --> 00:08:44,921 Speaker 2: into and go because it's quite confusing, Now it goes well, 175 00:08:45,001 --> 00:08:47,921 Speaker 2: is this pain only physical or is it from a 176 00:08:48,001 --> 00:08:50,921 Speaker 2: lack of recovery or nutrition? Or is it emotional? The 177 00:08:51,001 --> 00:08:53,841 Speaker 2: first step is we ask these questions and we go okay. 178 00:08:53,841 --> 00:08:56,321 Speaker 2: First up, has it been over six months? And is 179 00:08:56,361 --> 00:08:59,041 Speaker 2: the pain still there? If it is, then that's one 180 00:08:59,041 --> 00:09:02,401 Speaker 2: little tick where we go, oh, this could be solely emotional. 181 00:09:02,801 --> 00:09:06,801 Speaker 2: Next is does my pain sort of switch and change 182 00:09:06,841 --> 00:09:10,921 Speaker 2: sides or change positions if I'm completely present in the moment, 183 00:09:10,961 --> 00:09:13,481 Speaker 2: does it go away or does some days when I'm calm? 184 00:09:14,001 --> 00:09:15,841 Speaker 2: Is it up and down? And if we go yeah, 185 00:09:15,841 --> 00:09:18,721 Speaker 2: it does? Or there's another tick where we go hmm, 186 00:09:18,961 --> 00:09:22,441 Speaker 2: this could be again an emotional source of pain. Then 187 00:09:22,481 --> 00:09:26,201 Speaker 2: we go does it involve It started with one thing 188 00:09:26,281 --> 00:09:28,841 Speaker 2: and now I'm getting multiple pain. So I've got ibs 189 00:09:29,121 --> 00:09:31,641 Speaker 2: and now I've got knee pain, and now I've got migraines, 190 00:09:31,721 --> 00:09:34,401 Speaker 2: and it's just keeps the adding on in different areas. 191 00:09:35,121 --> 00:09:37,241 Speaker 2: You know, I didn't fall over at tennis. There was 192 00:09:37,281 --> 00:09:40,361 Speaker 2: no sort of massive start point, and they just sort 193 00:09:40,361 --> 00:09:43,321 Speaker 2: of come along. So now it's getting multiple pains on 194 00:09:43,401 --> 00:09:47,521 Speaker 2: top of each other. That again indicates us, this is 195 00:09:47,721 --> 00:09:50,841 Speaker 2: again our nervous system telling us that it's got a 196 00:09:50,881 --> 00:09:53,961 Speaker 2: lot of fear inside and that this position or what 197 00:09:54,001 --> 00:09:55,921 Speaker 2: we're doing is not safe. It's just a little oil 198 00:09:55,961 --> 00:09:59,121 Speaker 2: light again, trying to get us to listen. Listen, listen, 199 00:09:59,161 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: and we're not. And the body's basically trialing some strategies 200 00:10:03,161 --> 00:10:05,401 Speaker 2: to get you to listen. It goes ah, when I 201 00:10:05,441 --> 00:10:08,201 Speaker 2: give you pain, you seem to stop doing something. If 202 00:10:08,241 --> 00:10:10,641 Speaker 2: I've got a pain in my shoulder, what happens normally 203 00:10:11,201 --> 00:10:14,201 Speaker 2: is the pain happens, and then the muscles around the 204 00:10:14,241 --> 00:10:17,601 Speaker 2: shoulder joint will hyper contract to try and basically say 205 00:10:17,921 --> 00:10:20,401 Speaker 2: don't move that joint. You know, it'll happen in your 206 00:10:20,441 --> 00:10:22,961 Speaker 2: lower back, your QL and your so ass will squeeze 207 00:10:23,041 --> 00:10:25,681 Speaker 2: down and try and stop you from bending and moving. 208 00:10:26,041 --> 00:10:28,041 Speaker 2: It's doing that because it cares. It's trying to say 209 00:10:28,081 --> 00:10:31,401 Speaker 2: you are injuring me, stop moving, and everyone goes, I'm 210 00:10:31,401 --> 00:10:33,841 Speaker 2: just going to take extra voltare right now and still 211 00:10:33,881 --> 00:10:36,761 Speaker 2: do my movements right, still going to play stuff that's 212 00:10:36,841 --> 00:10:39,401 Speaker 2: hurting my shoulder. We obviously need to manage it. We 213 00:10:39,441 --> 00:10:42,801 Speaker 2: need to listen to that and go, Okay, this movement's 214 00:10:42,841 --> 00:10:45,321 Speaker 2: stopping me. I don't want to stop forever, but for 215 00:10:45,401 --> 00:10:48,001 Speaker 2: initial period, I need to listen to that sign. I 216 00:10:48,041 --> 00:10:49,641 Speaker 2: need to back off. I need to look and go 217 00:10:49,681 --> 00:10:51,841 Speaker 2: see someone like a physio or a carra or whatever 218 00:10:51,921 --> 00:10:55,721 Speaker 2: that manages these muscle imbalances and see whether, hey, maybe 219 00:10:55,761 --> 00:10:58,161 Speaker 2: my posture rounding over all the time is tighten these 220 00:10:58,161 --> 00:11:00,961 Speaker 2: front muscles, loosen these back muscles, and now I've got 221 00:11:01,201 --> 00:11:03,681 Speaker 2: an instability in my joint, in my shoulder or my 222 00:11:03,721 --> 00:11:06,241 Speaker 2: lower backs out because of I've been sitting over on 223 00:11:06,281 --> 00:11:08,921 Speaker 2: the side like this and now one side's tighter. You know, 224 00:11:08,961 --> 00:11:12,681 Speaker 2: there's so many physical causes. But when we have these 225 00:11:12,761 --> 00:11:14,881 Speaker 2: hyper pain and this is the cool thing to know 226 00:11:15,641 --> 00:11:21,841 Speaker 2: that function posture doesn't equal pain. If you go into 227 00:11:21,881 --> 00:11:23,921 Speaker 2: a physio and you show them an MRI, you come 228 00:11:23,961 --> 00:11:26,041 Speaker 2: over and you've got this massive posture like this, they'll 229 00:11:26,081 --> 00:11:29,041 Speaker 2: be like, Okay, so you've got impingement. We can see 230 00:11:29,041 --> 00:11:32,401 Speaker 2: that your burs is inflamed, and you've got winging scapula. 231 00:11:32,521 --> 00:11:35,401 Speaker 2: There's the reason, and it's not always the reason. It 232 00:11:35,561 --> 00:11:38,441 Speaker 2: is not great, and we'd like to reverse that, but 233 00:11:38,561 --> 00:11:42,321 Speaker 2: it doesn't equal pain. But when we correlate that, and 234 00:11:42,521 --> 00:11:45,361 Speaker 2: to the same part, there's been studies that show that 235 00:11:45,801 --> 00:11:49,401 Speaker 2: I think it's sixty five percent of people without back 236 00:11:49,481 --> 00:11:52,761 Speaker 2: pain have bulging discs. Just because you've got a bulging 237 00:11:52,801 --> 00:11:54,361 Speaker 2: disc and we do a scan and you've got a 238 00:11:54,361 --> 00:11:56,321 Speaker 2: disc and you might have lower back pain at the moment, 239 00:11:56,641 --> 00:12:00,761 Speaker 2: that's correlation. It doesn't equal why the pain is there. 240 00:12:00,801 --> 00:12:03,001 Speaker 2: It just says you might have had that bulging disc 241 00:12:03,041 --> 00:12:05,561 Speaker 2: for twenty years. We don't know. And also we have 242 00:12:05,681 --> 00:12:08,161 Speaker 2: people that go through back pain where you know, I've 243 00:12:08,161 --> 00:12:10,521 Speaker 2: been through back pain before where I couldn't walk for 244 00:12:10,561 --> 00:12:13,041 Speaker 2: a week and then all of a sudden it's better. 245 00:12:14,041 --> 00:12:16,281 Speaker 2: Just so happened to happen at a really high stress 246 00:12:16,401 --> 00:12:20,601 Speaker 2: financial time. But regardless, did my bulging disks stop then no, 247 00:12:20,721 --> 00:12:24,441 Speaker 2: it's probably still bulging. So what is the cause of 248 00:12:24,481 --> 00:12:28,401 Speaker 2: this pain? Right, It's not always equal to function. That's 249 00:12:28,441 --> 00:12:31,761 Speaker 2: what we see and the studies sort of back that up. 250 00:12:31,881 --> 00:12:35,361 Speaker 2: And there's another really cool study that shows the number 251 00:12:35,401 --> 00:12:37,241 Speaker 2: one way, like if you're going to just try and 252 00:12:37,281 --> 00:12:39,521 Speaker 2: look at a scan like an mr RYE or whatever 253 00:12:39,561 --> 00:12:42,721 Speaker 2: and go, is this person in pain? Whether it's the 254 00:12:42,761 --> 00:12:45,961 Speaker 2: top sports doctors or physios, the stat says that they're 255 00:12:45,961 --> 00:12:48,041 Speaker 2: about fifty to fifty on. So it's about as good 256 00:12:48,081 --> 00:12:50,361 Speaker 2: as a guess that going based on these scans, not 257 00:12:50,361 --> 00:12:52,241 Speaker 2: looking at the patient, not talking to the patient, are 258 00:12:52,241 --> 00:12:55,561 Speaker 2: they in pain? But the number one way to tell 259 00:12:55,641 --> 00:12:58,481 Speaker 2: if somebody is in pain is by doing a scan 260 00:12:58,561 --> 00:13:00,601 Speaker 2: on there. It's basically the little part in the midbrain 261 00:13:00,681 --> 00:13:03,161 Speaker 2: that responds it to our alert system in the brain 262 00:13:03,241 --> 00:13:07,121 Speaker 2: that's basically to stress. When we analyze that the activity, 263 00:13:07,441 --> 00:13:09,721 Speaker 2: you can get up to about an eighty three eighty 264 00:13:09,801 --> 00:13:12,721 Speaker 2: five percent accuracy on is that person going to be 265 00:13:12,801 --> 00:13:15,921 Speaker 2: feeling pain at the moment. That study also gives us 266 00:13:16,001 --> 00:13:19,761 Speaker 2: more evidence to say pain equals a stressed nervous system. 267 00:13:19,761 --> 00:13:23,241 Speaker 2: Pain equals fear in the nervous system, Pain equals I'm 268 00:13:23,241 --> 00:13:27,321 Speaker 2: not safe. Pain equals that I'm going through an emotional 269 00:13:27,361 --> 00:13:30,321 Speaker 2: state where I'm not listening back into the body and 270 00:13:30,361 --> 00:13:33,441 Speaker 2: the body is saying what you're doing isn't safe right now, 271 00:13:33,801 --> 00:13:36,961 Speaker 2: whether it's nutritionally the food or whatever, but it's still 272 00:13:37,001 --> 00:13:40,761 Speaker 2: remembering that pain. Just using examples of clients, generalized examples. 273 00:13:41,161 --> 00:13:45,241 Speaker 2: But sometimes I will go back into past situations, and 274 00:13:45,281 --> 00:13:47,961 Speaker 2: once that past situation is now safe and able to 275 00:13:47,961 --> 00:13:51,521 Speaker 2: be filed away by the brain, the pain goes. Sometimes 276 00:13:51,561 --> 00:13:54,241 Speaker 2: we can go into a situation where it actually I 277 00:13:54,281 --> 00:13:56,921 Speaker 2: was going through an emotional situation at that time, and 278 00:13:56,961 --> 00:14:00,161 Speaker 2: I remember having this huge pasta meal. All of a sudden, 279 00:14:00,201 --> 00:14:03,001 Speaker 2: we go in make that reframe that allow that to 280 00:14:03,041 --> 00:14:05,401 Speaker 2: be safe and take away that tiger, and all of 281 00:14:05,441 --> 00:14:08,921 Speaker 2: a sudden, their gluten insensitivity goes away. And it's like, 282 00:14:09,241 --> 00:14:12,041 Speaker 2: what the hell is that that is? Because it's an 283 00:14:12,241 --> 00:14:16,281 Speaker 2: unsafe stressed or the block stress that's been stuck in 284 00:14:16,361 --> 00:14:19,161 Speaker 2: the body is now causing us to be unsafe, which 285 00:14:19,201 --> 00:14:22,481 Speaker 2: causes a lot of times pain in response. 286 00:14:23,601 --> 00:14:27,561 Speaker 1: It's so fascinating. I have a question. I'd love to 287 00:14:27,601 --> 00:14:30,161 Speaker 1: know your opinion around it, because I one hundred percent 288 00:14:30,161 --> 00:14:33,081 Speaker 1: believe there is a time and place for certain medications 289 00:14:33,161 --> 00:14:35,761 Speaker 1: and whatever. But I do think we're living in a 290 00:14:35,801 --> 00:14:38,521 Speaker 1: society where as soon as there's any type of pain 291 00:14:39,161 --> 00:14:41,361 Speaker 1: it's just like straight to the doctors, take this tablet, 292 00:14:41,561 --> 00:14:43,641 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, even like basically like Panadole and Europe 293 00:14:43,641 --> 00:14:45,521 Speaker 1: and Voltaire and Excepta and I've taken it. I'm not 294 00:14:45,561 --> 00:14:48,601 Speaker 1: saying I'm fully against it, But what's your opinion around 295 00:14:48,641 --> 00:14:51,321 Speaker 1: all of that? Like how can we always get this 296 00:14:51,401 --> 00:14:54,921 Speaker 1: message out there that there's always a root cause? And 297 00:14:54,961 --> 00:14:56,641 Speaker 1: when do you think is the time and place? Like 298 00:14:56,681 --> 00:14:59,281 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you don't ever take panadole? What would you 299 00:14:59,321 --> 00:15:01,361 Speaker 1: do with creasy headache on migraine? 300 00:15:01,441 --> 00:15:03,281 Speaker 2: So this is what we want to do, right is 301 00:15:03,401 --> 00:15:06,241 Speaker 2: let's say I do an injury right away, There's going 302 00:15:06,321 --> 00:15:09,201 Speaker 2: to be great inflammation in that area. And our job 303 00:15:09,321 --> 00:15:11,841 Speaker 2: is if I want to make that recovery period faster, 304 00:15:11,921 --> 00:15:14,361 Speaker 2: I want to limit the amount of inflammation that's created. 305 00:15:14,361 --> 00:15:16,241 Speaker 2: I also want to listen in and go, okay, I'm 306 00:15:16,281 --> 00:15:18,401 Speaker 2: not going to keep moving my body in that area, 307 00:15:18,561 --> 00:15:21,361 Speaker 2: so straight away I should stop the activity. A lot 308 00:15:21,401 --> 00:15:24,321 Speaker 2: of times the muscular contraction there, you know, like say 309 00:15:24,321 --> 00:15:27,361 Speaker 2: if I pull the humorous up into the arm sock, 310 00:15:27,401 --> 00:15:29,361 Speaker 2: it will make it hard to move. So I got 311 00:15:29,361 --> 00:15:31,841 Speaker 2: to listen to that and say, okay, stop moving my arm, 312 00:15:31,921 --> 00:15:34,401 Speaker 2: Like this, then I want to add ice to it 313 00:15:34,441 --> 00:15:37,841 Speaker 2: to reduce the inflammation. Then I would also get people 314 00:15:37,841 --> 00:15:40,401 Speaker 2: on pay any inflammatories for that first day or two, 315 00:15:40,761 --> 00:15:44,041 Speaker 2: because we wanted to minimize the inflammation because however much 316 00:15:44,121 --> 00:15:46,201 Speaker 2: inflammation is left, the immune system has to go in 317 00:15:46,281 --> 00:15:48,761 Speaker 2: and eat that inflammation up before it can start to heal. 318 00:15:49,121 --> 00:15:52,481 Speaker 2: And so there is certain times where medication is brilliant. 319 00:15:52,561 --> 00:15:55,841 Speaker 2: And in regards to just a simple headache, if I 320 00:15:55,881 --> 00:15:58,161 Speaker 2: don't normally get headaches, and I've got a lot on 321 00:15:58,281 --> 00:16:02,361 Speaker 2: today and I need to be thinking clearly, take panadol, 322 00:16:02,721 --> 00:16:05,041 Speaker 2: you know, like that may help. And if it does, fantastic, 323 00:16:05,321 --> 00:16:07,281 Speaker 2: but don't just keeping it taking it every day from 324 00:16:07,321 --> 00:16:10,241 Speaker 2: now on. That's not the cause of your issue, the 325 00:16:10,281 --> 00:16:13,081 Speaker 2: deficiency and panadole, but it can be useful. It's the 326 00:16:13,081 --> 00:16:16,841 Speaker 2: same as coffee, right. Coffee is such a great way 327 00:16:16,921 --> 00:16:19,081 Speaker 2: to feel good. It's a me time activity, but it 328 00:16:19,201 --> 00:16:22,441 Speaker 2: equals stress. And so if I'm an anxious person and 329 00:16:22,481 --> 00:16:24,641 Speaker 2: I still drink coffee multiple times a day or I 330 00:16:24,681 --> 00:16:27,441 Speaker 2: take pre workouts, I'm just making my life worse. If 331 00:16:27,441 --> 00:16:30,001 Speaker 2: I'm an anxious person who's got pain and I continue 332 00:16:30,281 --> 00:16:32,921 Speaker 2: like life is telling me that I can't manage. I'm 333 00:16:32,921 --> 00:16:35,001 Speaker 2: not adapting to the stress of my life, So please 334 00:16:35,081 --> 00:16:38,721 Speaker 2: don't add more stress into my body because life is 335 00:16:38,721 --> 00:16:40,761 Speaker 2: showing me that I can't manage or adapt to the 336 00:16:40,761 --> 00:16:42,881 Speaker 2: ones that I'm there at the time. But if I 337 00:16:42,961 --> 00:16:44,801 Speaker 2: don't drink coffee all the time, or I choose to 338 00:16:44,801 --> 00:16:47,601 Speaker 2: have decaf most of the time on days, because there 339 00:16:47,641 --> 00:16:49,801 Speaker 2: will be moments when you don't have enough sleep or 340 00:16:49,801 --> 00:16:52,721 Speaker 2: you've got extra stresses on and you're like, oh, man, 341 00:16:52,761 --> 00:16:56,241 Speaker 2: I just can't function. What a beautiful, amazing tool to 342 00:16:56,361 --> 00:16:58,201 Speaker 2: use to go say I'm going to have a coffee 343 00:16:58,201 --> 00:17:00,281 Speaker 2: today or I'm going to have three coffees today because 344 00:17:00,321 --> 00:17:02,881 Speaker 2: I'm just fucked. But then I listen in and go 345 00:17:03,321 --> 00:17:06,681 Speaker 2: I better actually try and recover. My body is telling 346 00:17:06,761 --> 00:17:10,641 Speaker 2: me I'm tired. Tired isn't normal. It means something's happening. 347 00:17:10,961 --> 00:17:14,121 Speaker 2: It only becomes normal when I believe that, Wow, I'm 348 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: just used to having it, you know. And even saying 349 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,241 Speaker 2: man that the words we go, I can't do this yet, 350 00:17:20,281 --> 00:17:22,001 Speaker 2: don't talk to me. I haven't had my coffee. That 351 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 2: is such a victim statement. It's basically saying I am 352 00:17:24,481 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 2: so weak and pathetic that I can't have energy without 353 00:17:28,041 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 2: something else. People are going to hate me about this 354 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:34,921 Speaker 2: because people are really strung. I'm not anti coffee. If 355 00:17:34,921 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 2: you're nervous, this your life is saying you're in no pain, 356 00:17:37,721 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: and you're in a great place, and you've got no 357 00:17:40,281 --> 00:17:43,441 Speaker 2: extra stress or anything, and you're able to regulate that 358 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:48,321 Speaker 2: fantastic or the best time to have sugar or coffee 359 00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: is before or after exercise because movement gets rid of 360 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 2: our stress. Movement burns up our extra sugar. You know, 361 00:17:54,761 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 2: after your exercise. If you're someone who's on a low 362 00:17:57,120 --> 00:17:59,561 Speaker 2: carb diet, this could be the perfect time for you 363 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,961 Speaker 2: to have that extra sour though, or to have that 364 00:18:02,041 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 2: big sia bowl after that, because your body doesn't need 365 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,121 Speaker 2: inchulin to get the sugar into your cell. The body's 366 00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:11,041 Speaker 2: going to burn up that extra stress. That's why movement 367 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,481 Speaker 2: is such like we talk about this too ash, but 368 00:18:13,561 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 2: we don't even exercise anymore for a body reason. We 369 00:18:16,561 --> 00:18:20,041 Speaker 2: exercise it for mental health because it gets rid of 370 00:18:20,120 --> 00:18:22,401 Speaker 2: the extra stress. It's like I could sit there and meditate, 371 00:18:22,521 --> 00:18:24,161 Speaker 2: or I can actually just go out and bang out 372 00:18:24,201 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 2: some weights, or there's different ways to regulate our body 373 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: and moving. It is incredible way one hundred percent. 374 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,121 Speaker 1: I always try and teach my eight year old son. 375 00:18:33,481 --> 00:18:36,041 Speaker 1: We get to have a toolbox. It's like this invisible toolbox, 376 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,361 Speaker 1: and we get to learn different ways to help us. 377 00:18:38,360 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: And I remember hearing as a holistic psychologist because I 378 00:18:41,241 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: always I know, for the last how many years, I'm like, oh, 379 00:18:43,801 --> 00:18:45,281 Speaker 1: I just want to always I want to meditate, and 380 00:18:45,281 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: I want to always breathe when I'm stressed. And I 381 00:18:47,201 --> 00:18:50,441 Speaker 1: remember she did post saying that, yes, breathing is fantastic 382 00:18:50,521 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: and it's so good for so many reasons, and it 383 00:18:52,441 --> 00:18:54,321 Speaker 1: definitely serves us place and we could all be doing 384 00:18:54,321 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: more of it. We all should be doing more of it. However, 385 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,201 Speaker 1: she's saying for her type of personality, when she's really 386 00:18:59,201 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: stressed or worried or anxious, the first thing for her 387 00:19:02,201 --> 00:19:05,041 Speaker 1: to do is actually do some kind of high intensity exercise. 388 00:19:05,041 --> 00:19:07,721 Speaker 1: It's like a brisk walk, a run, punch a boxing bag, 389 00:19:07,801 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 1: punch a pillow and move that energy first. And then 390 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: she's like, that regulates her to be able to really 391 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: drop into a beautiful meditation. And that changed my life. 392 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,161 Speaker 1: And I've really noticed with Taj when he's got high 393 00:19:19,201 --> 00:19:23,561 Speaker 1: emotions and he's really angry or frustrated. I'm like, let's 394 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,521 Speaker 1: go for a walk, let's jump on your bike, because 395 00:19:25,561 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: I can't reason or talk to him while he's in 396 00:19:27,961 --> 00:19:30,321 Speaker 1: that state. The moment we're out of nature sunshine and 397 00:19:30,441 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: is moving his body, then we can chat about it. 398 00:19:32,801 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: Such a cool tool. We're so passionate about health and fitness, 399 00:19:36,120 --> 00:19:38,321 Speaker 1: I suppose, but it's something that's just at our fingertips 400 00:19:38,321 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: and can be used for so many things. 401 00:19:40,281 --> 00:19:43,041 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Any parents out there that have got 402 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,761 Speaker 2: children with maybe diagnosed don't mean they've got extra energy 403 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 2: or ADHD. Giving them that toolbox of listening in and 404 00:19:49,481 --> 00:19:50,881 Speaker 2: going I feel like I've got a lot of energy 405 00:19:50,921 --> 00:19:54,521 Speaker 2: at the moment. Mum, good use that move and let's 406 00:19:54,521 --> 00:19:56,201 Speaker 2: do it in nature as well, because we've got these 407 00:19:56,241 --> 00:19:59,161 Speaker 2: negative ions at the oceanal or ground your feet into 408 00:19:59,281 --> 00:20:02,641 Speaker 2: grass or see it. Yes, listen and move it and 409 00:20:02,761 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 2: use it. And then they'll be like, oh, I actually 410 00:20:04,921 --> 00:20:05,521 Speaker 2: just want to move. 411 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,561 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and most kids do want to move and huh. 412 00:20:08,561 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: This is something I feel like. I wish topics like 413 00:20:10,961 --> 00:20:13,161 Speaker 1: this were discussed in school. It makes me so sad 414 00:20:13,201 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: that so many parents are doing the best that they can, 415 00:20:15,681 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: but they just don't have the knowledge. They don't have 416 00:20:17,321 --> 00:20:19,641 Speaker 1: the tools, they don't have the resources. Like I think 417 00:20:19,681 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: back to my mum, like she didn't have coaches and 418 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: YouTube and you know, podcasts and all this information at 419 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,561 Speaker 1: a finger tips. Is so much we can do for 420 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 1: ourselves and for our kids. And yeah, once again, movement, 421 00:20:29,441 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: Like so many kids just have so much built up 422 00:20:31,561 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: energy that if they can just move, it helps release 423 00:20:34,481 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: it and then they can be regulated. 424 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,001 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you instead of getting them to move, 425 00:20:39,201 --> 00:20:41,761 Speaker 2: they get on their iPad or whatever and they're flicking 426 00:20:41,801 --> 00:20:45,001 Speaker 2: through YouTube shorts or TikTok or whatever, and it's got 427 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,761 Speaker 2: in creating an excess glutamate amount. And then they come 428 00:20:47,801 --> 00:20:49,721 Speaker 2: off it and they're like, every kid is a little 429 00:20:49,761 --> 00:20:51,681 Speaker 2: tosser after they get off those little devices. 430 00:20:51,721 --> 00:20:56,001 Speaker 1: Right, It's so true, and. 431 00:20:56,001 --> 00:20:57,641 Speaker 2: You'll let you should just be like, get off and 432 00:20:57,721 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 2: move and then you can come talk to me. 433 00:20:59,441 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, honey, do you do exactly that? The kids come 434 00:21:01,761 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: home from school and they all just want to chill. 435 00:21:03,921 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: They all say like we want to watch iPad and 436 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: we're like, sweet, you guys do it. We'll make lunches, 437 00:21:08,001 --> 00:21:10,601 Speaker 1: get everything ready, and then every single night we either 438 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,321 Speaker 1: go for like a big walk or a big bike ride, 439 00:21:12,321 --> 00:21:14,561 Speaker 1: because they do they need to move their bodies. Yeah, 440 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,001 Speaker 1: and you've got a trampoline as well. I don't know 441 00:21:16,001 --> 00:21:18,521 Speaker 1: if you have a trampoline LEVI, but man, a trampoline 442 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: is worth its money in gold physically getting a child. 443 00:21:21,681 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: Even me like jumping. It moves so much energy, but 444 00:21:25,001 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: it also taps into like really playful, fun silly energy. Yeah, 445 00:21:28,481 --> 00:21:30,961 Speaker 1: we use it every single day. Yeah, it does something 446 00:21:31,001 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: to your body. I don't know if there's any science 447 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,281 Speaker 1: behind that, but jumping is so many women say they 448 00:21:36,321 --> 00:21:38,521 Speaker 1: can't do that anymore. Yeah, every time it's like I'm 449 00:21:38,521 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: gonna wear my pants. 450 00:21:39,481 --> 00:21:43,441 Speaker 2: Yes, there's a lot. Yeah. Yeah. The three number one 451 00:21:43,441 --> 00:21:46,041 Speaker 2: ways that the research says that we can regulate our 452 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,561 Speaker 2: emotions in mind and thoughts with our body is breathing 453 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 2: deep breathing in the belly using that vagus nerve. We've 454 00:21:52,281 --> 00:21:55,801 Speaker 2: got humming or singing, and touch. They're the top three 455 00:21:55,961 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 2: where we're using body up regulation of our body. But 456 00:21:59,761 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 2: movement for me, I think they've either missed that in 457 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,761 Speaker 2: the research. Jumping makes sense to me as well. Any 458 00:22:04,761 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 2: sort of percussion or movement or anything that gets that 459 00:22:07,041 --> 00:22:07,521 Speaker 2: out is. 460 00:22:07,521 --> 00:22:09,561 Speaker 1: Essential I feel like everyone listening is going to get 461 00:22:09,561 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: so much out of that, yeap, And just like such 462 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,121 Speaker 1: a huge reminder to tune in when things are happening, 463 00:22:14,120 --> 00:22:16,961 Speaker 1: when pain is showing up, or you're feeling certain ways, 464 00:22:17,281 --> 00:22:20,561 Speaker 1: ask yourself those questions like oh okay, even around periods, 465 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,521 Speaker 1: I feel like I just know so many other women 466 00:22:22,561 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: struggle with that, taking it a bit slower, not overbooking 467 00:22:25,681 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: ourself that week of the month, and yeah, tuning in 468 00:22:28,801 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: asking yourself some question. I love here you use the 469 00:22:31,201 --> 00:22:33,801 Speaker 1: little oil symbol. It's like almost like an alert on 470 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,961 Speaker 1: your phone, Like when you have pain, there's obviously information 471 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,561 Speaker 1: or stress in your body. It's like use that as 472 00:22:38,561 --> 00:22:41,801 Speaker 1: your little messenger. It's like, hey, something's not right. And 473 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,321 Speaker 1: like I take panadal sometimes as well, but whenever I 474 00:22:44,360 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: take the panet, I'm still wanting to know, Okay, how 475 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,561 Speaker 1: much water have I drank? Where's my nervous system? 476 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: At? 477 00:22:48,961 --> 00:22:51,641 Speaker 1: Am I really stressed? Did I get quality sleep last night? Gosh? 478 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,001 Speaker 1: What time to go to bed? Oh shit, I was 479 00:22:53,041 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: on my emails till eleven o'clock. Like I want to 480 00:22:54,921 --> 00:22:56,521 Speaker 1: get to the root of it to then, you know, 481 00:22:56,801 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: try and learn and do better the next day. So 482 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: it's just yeah, once again tuning in, getting ground and connecting. 483 00:23:02,041 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: And I feel like we're in such a hustle, hustle, 484 00:23:04,521 --> 00:23:07,161 Speaker 1: go go go, so fast paced society that that's half 485 00:23:07,201 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: the problem. We're not actually taking an allowing time to 486 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,801 Speaker 1: stop so true check in and be like, ah, how 487 00:23:13,801 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 1: do I feel like what's actually going on for me? 488 00:23:15,961 --> 00:23:18,921 Speaker 1: But we just keep going. Take the panatal like, take this, 489 00:23:19,041 --> 00:23:21,521 Speaker 1: and just then we create a story. That's just how 490 00:23:21,561 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: life is. Life's just busy life, just dress well, I 491 00:23:23,681 --> 00:23:26,041 Speaker 1: just get headaches. I've had my whole life, and you 492 00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:28,121 Speaker 1: become victim to your pain, and that's just not how 493 00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:30,681 Speaker 1: anyone wants to live. It's not so thank you so 494 00:23:30,681 --> 00:23:32,961 Speaker 1: so much for joining us. We really really appreciate your 495 00:23:32,961 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: time and your wisdom and your knowledge. It's just yeah, 496 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,001 Speaker 1: once again, feel very very lucky to have you on 497 00:23:38,041 --> 00:23:40,761 Speaker 1: board today and hopefully we'll have you back one day. 498 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,321 Speaker 1: So yeah, thank you so much, Leve. I learned so 499 00:23:43,441 --> 00:23:45,561 Speaker 1: much then. And where can everyone come and follow you? 500 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,441 Speaker 1: What's your handle on Instagram? 501 00:23:47,761 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 2: Instagram is at the Mind Bodyguy. 502 00:23:50,241 --> 00:23:52,641 Speaker 1: We also Levi and I have a joint podcast called 503 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,281 Speaker 1: The Conscious Living Parents. And even though it's called The 504 00:23:55,281 --> 00:23:56,881 Speaker 1: Conscious Living Parents. I think a lot of people think 505 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,961 Speaker 1: it's just around parenting, which a lot of it is, 506 00:23:58,961 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: but the actual title is us being conscious living parents 507 00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:05,001 Speaker 1: with messages we want to get out to the world 508 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,521 Speaker 1: and conversations we want to have. So if you want 509 00:24:07,561 --> 00:24:09,561 Speaker 1: more of Levi, he has a Conscious Living Parents and 510 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,241 Speaker 1: he also has a podcast that's just around Amend's mental 511 00:24:12,281 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: health as well, So plenty of places you can connect 512 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: with Levi and learn more from him. Yeah, thank you 513 00:24:17,041 --> 00:24:17,481 Speaker 1: so much. 514 00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:19,001 Speaker 2: Absolute pleasure.