1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Britney Saunders and welcome to Big Business, the 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: place where business is far from boring. 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: And today I'm recording on gaddigall Land. 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Now, I somehow managed to build an empire from the 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: garage underneath my house and I'm here to share it 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: all with you, from the winds, the mistakes, the challenging 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: times and the funny moments in between. So, whether you're 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: in business already, perhaps you're not in the game at all, 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Maybe you're just looking for some inspo, or you simply 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: just want to hear the tea, this is the podcast 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: for you. Coming up on today's episode, I am joined by. 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: A very exciting guest that has managed. 13 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: To get herself into the studio in kind of a 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: really interesting way. Today I'm joined by Pipper, the owner 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: and founder of Pipper's Pantry, which you may have seen 16 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: blowing up on Instagram and TikTok. She is the mastermind 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: behind the famous vegan bakery up in Brisbane, and she 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: posted a story a little while ago saying that her 19 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 1: listening to Big Business was one of the main reasons 20 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: why she decided to open a storefront earlier this year. 21 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: Piper from Pipper's pantry. Welcome to Big Business. 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. 23 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: Now, this is funny how we've gotten you on the pod? 24 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: Right? 25 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: Like, did you was it you reached out to us? No, 26 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,639 Speaker 2: how did it happen that? Wait, we've got producers Xander 27 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: coming on the mic. 28 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I should jump in. 29 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: So what happened? Hello? 30 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 4: Everyone, producer ex here. What happened was I saw an 31 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 4: Instagram post that Pepper posted, and it basically said that 32 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 4: she's a listener of the pod and she listens to 33 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 4: us all the time. And you had been contemplating open 34 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 4: up a storefront and you were amy and a ring 35 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 4: and listening to the pod actually gave her the confidence 36 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 4: to just be like, fuck it, I'm just going to 37 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 4: open up my storefront. And she did and a business 38 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 4: is booming, and I was like, we need to get 39 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 4: this girl on the pod. 40 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: So like, basically, you owe all of your success I 41 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: need to give you. 42 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: I'm just joking, but I will take a little bit 43 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: of credit. 44 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: No, seriously, you could take all the credits because I 45 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: only started. I don't know how long Big Business has 46 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: even been going. 47 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 5: I've listened to them all now, No, but I think 48 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 5: we've been a year in a bit now a year 49 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 5: and a half we've been doing the post, so I 50 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 5: probably started listening mid last year, so a bit a 51 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 5: bit old, like a bit behind. Yeah, And I being 52 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 5: a baker, I'm constantly by myself in the kitchen, so 53 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 5: all I do is podcasts and watching movies and shows. 54 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 5: And I was just listening and listening and listening, and 55 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 5: you made opening a shop not seem easy, don't get 56 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 5: me wrong, because it's not, but seem like a possibility. 57 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 5: And I've been in business for In October, it will 58 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 5: be eight years that I've had my business, and I've 59 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 5: been like full time. Like I quit my job within 60 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 5: like a few weeks of just opening, you know, starting. 61 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 3: It and honestly, listening to you just made me think 62 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 3: it's it's got to work, and if it doesn't, then 63 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 3: I'll sort it out. Like it's not the end of 64 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: the world if it doesn't go to plan, because like, 65 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 3: I'll just do I'll just work it out. 66 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 2: I'll do something else. 67 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: Yes, And seriously, having my business full like seven and 68 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: a half years, I'm like, I'm never opening a shop. 69 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: COVID came, I'm like, suckers, Thank god I didn't open 70 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: a shop. You know, but I just went against everything 71 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: and my boyfriend's are carpenter, so I was like, did he. 72 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: Help build it? 73 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: Like put on the pink boots because it's showtime. And 74 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 3: then like my parents or my friends when I told them, like, 75 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,399 Speaker 3: there's no what I've always said, like I will never 76 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 3: ever ever and it's just been the best thing that 77 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 3: ever happened. 78 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: And so when did you open? 79 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, physical saw front at the start of April this year. Yes, 80 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: and it has boomed. 81 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 82 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: I documented the like a series of like build my 83 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: Brisbane pink Bakery with me and a mass like millions 84 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 3: and millions of views and stuff and just on Instagram, 85 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 3: and that kind of doubled my follow account. So I 86 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: thought like, oh, I'm doing something right, you know, like 87 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: even if the bakery doesn't work out, like I got 88 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 3: all these like new follows and new potential customers get. 89 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: Out with me online. 90 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so ever since then, every weekend is sellout, 91 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 3: Like I am working seven days, you know, I listen 92 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: to the podcast. It's like when you need to hire stuff. 93 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 3: It's when like you're you don't have enough time to 94 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 3: do the things that you kind. 95 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: Of want to be doing. And I'm like that's you 96 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 2: every time talking like yes, that's me. 97 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: Yes, and so yeah, best thing I've ever done. I 98 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 3: have the biggest weekend coming up. So like as soon 99 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 3: as we get back to Brisbone from recording this podcast 100 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 3: in Sydney, straight back to the kitchen, tie their hair 101 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 3: back and you know it. I love it so. 102 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: For anyone listening and they're like, who on earth is 103 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: this girl that is in my ears right now? Can 104 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: you give us a rundown? What is Pipper's pantry? What 105 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: is this whole thing? 106 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: I am Pipper, owner of Pippers Pantry, and it is 107 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 3: a vegan a few things like it started off as 108 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 3: just vegan cupcakes and then I started doing more than 109 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: it started. Then it was vegan cakes and wedding cakes 110 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: and now it's a pink vegan bakery in Brisbane. 111 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 2: Whereabouts in Brisbane? 112 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: Is it in camp Hill on Old Cleveland Road? So 113 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 3: like the busiest road in Brisbane? 114 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: How good? How do you get to visibility? Yeah? 115 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: How co is that for parking? 116 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: Not? 117 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 3: But but I do have parking around the bag for 118 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: any Brisbane listeners. 119 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 2: There you go come in and use a code big 120 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: business ten percent off this weekend. 121 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 3: But yes, so I started my business when I was 122 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 3: only seventeen years old, Like I just finished school and 123 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: just literally decided I liked baking. 124 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 2: Did you do baking in school or anything? Yeah? 125 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: So I did home economics and I did art, so 126 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: I love like creative and baking and all of that 127 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 3: kind of stuff. I'm with visual art. In grade twelve, 128 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 3: you could go to New York City on the school 129 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 3: trip if you did art. So I feel like that's 130 00:05:58,560 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: why I did art. But I'm grateful for. 131 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 2: I did it definitely just for the New York troop 132 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: and golf, but yes. 133 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 3: So that definitely helped. I got the award for like 134 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: best in the Hospitality or whatever when I was in 135 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 3: grade twelve, so I obviously really liked it. Yep. And 136 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 3: ever since, I just baked as a hobby and until 137 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 3: I baked as a non hobby. 138 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: Now would you say that when you first started out, 139 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: were you like exceptionally good at baking or was it 140 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: something that you were looking back on, like did you 141 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: kind of start at the bottom and you got better with. 142 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 3: Yes, I look back and I feel sick. 143 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: But I go to every business owner, no matter what 144 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: you're doing, people doing, especially like creating something if people 145 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: are makeup artists or hairstylists, they will look back on 146 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: their early work and be like, oh gosh, but I 147 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: think that's where you've got to start. 148 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 3: Even my logo from like a year and a half ago, 149 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, what was she thinking? That's only a year 150 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 3: and a half. You'll be like that forever because I'm 151 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 3: that way too. Like I love back at the stuff 152 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 3: that we did at Fate a year ago and I'm like, yeah, 153 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 3: like that's kind of cringe. 154 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: And I felt that way always about Fate, And I 155 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: think that's a great sign of growth, because if you're 156 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: looking back on last year and the year before and 157 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: nothing's changing, I don't think you're growing. Yeah, So I 158 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: think it's a good thing if you can look back 159 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: and cringe, because it just means you've grown. 160 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: Absolutely. I look back and I try to like reuse 161 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: for like Father's Day, I try to like reuse some 162 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 3: like content from last year, and then I'm like, oh 163 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: my god, no. 164 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,239 Speaker 2: I gotta do fresh content every time. 165 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely, But yeah, that's that's how it started. Kind that's 166 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 3: how that's like the main gist I feel. 167 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: And so, did you start out back in the day 168 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: like online or was it at markets. 169 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 3: Yes, So I started by doing my first ever vegan 170 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 3: market at the Sunshine Coast. This is actually one of 171 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: my business blunders. 172 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: Yes, I saw when we asked your questions, you've got 173 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: a blunder that happened. 174 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: Yes, tell us. 175 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 3: So my first ever vegan market was at as the 176 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: Sunshine Coast and I drove all the way down there. 177 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: I don't know why. We had, like all I needed 178 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 3: was like a marquee and my cupcakes, and I think 179 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: we took like three cars full of stuff down. I 180 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: don't know what was you a carped absolutely, and so 181 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: got there. I had five hundred cupcakes to sell, which 182 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 3: to me, that's huge. You know, that was my first 183 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: ever market. But everyone's g and me up. They're like, oh, 184 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 3: don't you know it makes you make enough? I thought 185 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 3: I'd rather have them left over. My boyfriend always says, 186 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 3: I'd rather be looking. 187 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: At him than looking for him. Very true. 188 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: And how long did it take you to prepare all 189 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: those five hundred cupcakes? 190 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 3: I think, honestly, including like the prep of going to 191 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 3: get everything, making sure I had anything like a whole week. 192 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: Yeah right, And and then you had to pay to 193 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: be in the market. Yeah, I get to pay for 194 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: your stole, and. 195 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: Yes, I think it was like one hundred dollars or 196 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: something that I had to pay, and like we got 197 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: there and I'd forgotten my tablecloths and oh I didn't 198 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 3: have zip times to put my banner up. 199 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 2: It was just all those little things. 200 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a lot. But then I sold out 201 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: in like an hour and fifty minutes, five hundred cupcakes, 202 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: like the most amazing thing ever. I'm pretty sure I 203 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 3: went because I had a full time job at that time. 204 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 3: I was a barrister and I went to work on 205 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 3: Monday and immediately was like I need to go part time, 206 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 3: Like I can't, Like I need to go part time. 207 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 3: And I think I was part time for like two 208 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: weeks and then fully quit. So that's how quick it 209 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: kind of was from my first market. Yeah, when we're 210 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 3: coming like full time, and. 211 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: I think that's good as well, like to be so 212 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: young and to recognize something like that, like, yeah, it's 213 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: great to like go to the markets and sell out 214 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: of everything. But a lot of people will see that 215 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: and be like okay, and then not do anything about 216 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: it because maybe they're too scared or they're like that 217 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: was a Fluke, you know, and that was just a 218 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: one off, but I think it's really good to be 219 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: able to see that and take actions. 220 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: But watch your blunder. 221 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: The blunder is that the next Sunshine Coast markets, I 222 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 3: prepped a thousand cupcakes because I thought a thousand cup 223 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 3: is that's going to be perfect. I did five hundred 224 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 3: last time, saw around two hours. You know, it's like 225 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 3: a six hour market. You know, that should be good. 226 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: Pretty sure. We took four cars down that time. 227 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 3: And then it rained and rained, Like I think, I 228 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 3: sold like thirty cupcakes and then I just I gave 229 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 3: so many out and just had to, like, you know, 230 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 3: throw the rest because I had like a thousand, and 231 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 3: you know how long that would have taken. 232 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: It would have taken you so long. What did you 233 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: learn from that? 234 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 3: You know? 235 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: How did you feel after that market? 236 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 3: Yes, so at first crying in Mum's arms, you know, 237 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: we got that out of the way. But then after 238 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 3: I realized and this isn't just saying this on the podcast, 239 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 3: I realized how much I can make. Like I realized 240 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 3: I can make a thousand cupcakes for an event if 241 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 3: I need to. I because I had so many to make, 242 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: I did so many different flavors, so I found out 243 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: like ten new different flavors that I could have done 244 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: as well as the ones I did last time. And 245 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 3: it kind of just made me think you need to 246 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 3: be able to almost like be flexible in business because 247 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 3: I was just starting. I had no idea, and it's 248 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: like every single day in business, you have to learn 249 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 3: to be flexible about something. Yeah, and this was a 250 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 3: very flexible moment. Yeah. 251 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: It's almost like a moment where you have to pivot. 252 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, and so I do. But I kept doing 253 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 3: markets for years and years and they were the best 254 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 3: things ever. But I checked the weather forecast. 255 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: Was it much of a financial hit to you at 256 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: that time, given the fact that you were just starting out, 257 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: did you feel like, oh, this has gone to waste? 258 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: You know? 259 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 3: Great question. I was very lucky to be living at home, 260 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 3: still had a full time job, and this was kind 261 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 3: of just like my side thing at the time, So 262 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: I didn't see it as that, I guess because I 263 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 3: wasn't in a money mindset yet, because you have to 264 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: be when you're in business. But I wasn't there yet. 265 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: I was just more disappointed about the hard work being wasted. 266 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 3: I guess, but tick forward a few years and obviously 267 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 3: things like that when you have a shop, when you 268 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: have rent, when you have licensing, you know, free licenses 269 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 3: and insurance. I definitely do take that monetary hit more 270 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 3: now when I think about it than I did that 271 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: because I think I was just a bit like. 272 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 2: I feel exciting. 273 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 3: I was because I always think, like the Vega markets, well, 274 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 3: I probably would have driven all the way here to 275 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: come here anyways. 276 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 2: So the fact that I was here at least. 277 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: I made my petrol money, you know, like trying to 278 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 3: my mentality, I'm the most optimistic person in the entire world. 279 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: It's like I'll open the shop and it will be rainy, 280 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 3: and I'll think, oh my god, this is so cute, 281 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 3: Like a little rainy day to get a sweet treat 282 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 3: in a March, like this is perfect, And like all 283 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 3: my rainy days are now my busiest at the shop 284 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 3: because people want. 285 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 2: To go out and get a sweet tree. 286 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're not going to the beach. I'm like 287 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 3: in competition with. 288 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: The Gold Coast every every single like when it is 289 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: really hot, like yeah, the sun is shining, but maybe 290 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 1: people don't want to go to the bakery. Maybe I 291 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: want to go to the beach and go swimming instead. Absolutely, 292 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: what would your advice be to people who maybe are 293 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: just starting out and maybe they are going to markets 294 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: and they are having those days where they feel like 295 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: they're not making enough money or sales and thinking back 296 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: to yourself, then you know, what would be your advice 297 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: to you in that position. 298 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: Yes, so I don't think I did this at the 299 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: time because it wasn't really a thing or I didn't 300 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 3: really know because it was like eight years ago. But 301 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 3: if you're having a quiet market and you've prepped all 302 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 3: of this stock, take content, take photos, take videos, do 303 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 3: like a try every single cupcake with me at the 304 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: end of it when you have leftover ones and taste 305 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 3: tests every single one, Like that's cool. I even should 306 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 3: say that to myself now at the shop. You know, 307 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 3: it's just you say like, I'm so busy, blah blah blah, 308 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 3: but you're not like usually you would be at the 309 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 3: market maybe with someone wep out your phone. Yeh, go out, 310 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 3: wep out your phone, eat it all, or even package 311 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 3: it up and give it to the other vendors and 312 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 3: have your card on it. Things like that, or you know, 313 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: give it to your family to take to work the 314 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 3: next day. And Instagram followers, you know, TikTok followers give 315 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: your business card out like a cupcake. Just don't waste it, 316 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 3: because it's not a waste, no. 317 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: And I think even when you're like having a downer 318 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: of a moment like that and you are at the 319 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: markets and you're not making sales and you're feeling disheartened, 320 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: if someone is doing in their business, there's so many 321 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: content opportunities within. 322 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 3: That as well. 323 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: And like I know for myself, like I see videos 324 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: pop up for me all the time of people saying 325 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: like I'm at the markets today and I've only I'm 326 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: one hour in and I've made this yeah, or like 327 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: if they've had done a market for the weekend and 328 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: they share the results even if they're not happy with 329 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: them and they're bombed. I think just like opening up 330 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: on social media and being like, hey, like I own 331 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: this business and I only sold thirty cupcakes this week, 332 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: and well you. 333 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 3: See those you know during COVID as well, like oh 334 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 3: my business and like I do postage cookies and then 335 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: they go viral and now they're like the most viral 336 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 3: business ever, just because COVID came there, had to shut 337 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 3: their storefront, and they had to like start doing postage, 338 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 3: cake mail, you know things like that. 339 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely, would you say that creating content completely changed your business? 340 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 3: Absolutely. I actually had my Instagram made before I even 341 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 3: like baked my first cupcake. I had it on private 342 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 3: of I don't want anyone seeing it. I'm pretty sure 343 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 3: it was like my old like get fit page. 344 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 2: I just changed the name, like still to go. 345 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: Why did we all have a get fit page at 346 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: some teenagers? I think, like no, I made a Facebook 347 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: page and it was called get Fit with Bresh, Like 348 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: why And I was like taking photos of my breakfast. 349 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 3: Mine was like the Kayla it signs Bikini Body Guide 350 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 3: and I'm. 351 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: Like, canceled. 352 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 3: We don't need a bikini body buy cupcakes. But when 353 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 3: you go into the settings, it literally says like pit 354 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 3: BPG and I'm like, oh, well, we've matured, we will 355 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: start somewhere. But I was just making things at home, 356 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 3: taking photos that I don't want to get into the 357 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 3: Tip of the Week yet. 358 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 5: Okay, but what I'm about to say, yeah, that's at 359 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 5: the end of the episode. 360 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 3: But when my Tip of the Week resonates with this 361 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 3: of do it before you're ready, Like I was posting 362 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 3: like an influ went. 363 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 2: Like fake it till you make it right. 364 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 3: Yes, I was seeing quotes like my caption of like 365 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 3: my hashtags, I was sassier then than I am now, 366 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 3: and like good on her because she got me here. Yeah, 367 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 3: you know, and it's kind of gets a bit scarier 368 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 3: when you get more follows, more people seeing, you know. 369 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 3: I even said to my mum, like what if I 370 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 3: say the wrong thing and get canceled and then like 371 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 3: how am I gonna pay my mortgage? You know? But 372 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 3: that is just the beauty of like growing and having 373 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 3: a be audience. It's a blessing an curse. 374 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, literally, never be too careful. But I love that 375 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: piece of advice. And I always talk about content here 376 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: on the pod, and I feel like it's one of 377 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: those things that you know, everyone will go, I don't 378 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: have the time, it's too hard, which is understandable because 379 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: I feel like content is like mentally hard, like yes, 380 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: getting in the zone to like film that video and 381 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: set it up and think of the idea, but I 382 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: just do it. 383 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you start doing it. 384 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: And you start posting, and like you said, I think 385 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: it's great to have the mindset even if you're just 386 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: starting out in content. 387 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: But if you can just act like you've got. 388 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: A massive audience already, they're gonna come and they're gonna 389 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: find you, and they're gonna follow you. So I think 390 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: that's a great not tip of the week, but it's 391 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: a good tip. 392 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 3: Not yet. Every time I'm thinking, because you know how 393 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 3: you like save reels to like recreate, save tiktots to remake. 394 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 3: Every time when I'm getting ready in the morning, I'm like, no, 395 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 3: I got to wear this outfit today because I've got 396 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 3: a post real Brick would want me to. I seriously, 397 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 3: I think, I'm like, no, like you've got to to 398 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 3: do it today, do it? Just do it exactly, and 399 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 3: like getting it's even harder to get my boyfriend in them, 400 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 3: but like, oh. 401 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: I'm the same with AJ, but I'm forcing him more 402 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: and more and he's kind of getting into it now. 403 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 2: Yes, I love He had all acting debut last night. 404 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: Did you see our video where he is fully but 405 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: you should see the outtakes, Like he stuffs up so 406 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: much and like he goes like I just can't talk. 407 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 2: Well, I'm supposed to blue for reel because they're so funny, but. 408 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: Like he seems perfect when you actually and that's actually 409 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: funny as well, because you know, it's not in AJ's 410 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: nature to be in content. 411 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 2: He doesn't do social media. He doesn't care about it. 412 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: He's outgoing, but like I feel like it takes a 413 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: different kind of person to be outgoing on social media, 414 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: Like like AJ's outgoing day to day, but when it 415 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: comes to socials, he's like no, no, no. But I 416 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: think he's almost like a great little case study for people, 417 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: you know, especially if people are in business and they 418 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: they're not a fan of content or whatever. If you 419 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: just get in there, you have a bit of fun, 420 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: give it a crack, like it can turn to do 421 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: something awesome and people's great. In the videos, I'm like, 422 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: you should see us trying to force him to do it. 423 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 3: The standing on the v can is like lives literally 424 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 3: in my paree. How funny. I don't know how many 425 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 3: times I watched that. 426 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 2: That was so hard, you know, that challenge with everyone's 427 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 2: standing on you know how he tried to do it 428 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 2: here it was impossible though. That was so good. It 429 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 2: was together. But I love that. 430 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: So get out there and do content is what everyone 431 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: needs to take away from this episode do it? Do 432 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: it before you change your mind? Moving on to you 433 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: opening your first shop front. 434 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: Do you call it? Do you call it retail store 435 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 2: when it's a bakery retail? 436 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 3: When I did like a thing with the career mail, 437 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 3: they called it like my brick and water store, and 438 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 3: I was like, taking that, Oh, like that sounds it 439 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 3: sounds very official, doesn't it? 440 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 2: Water store? 441 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: So you decided to do that at the store. Well, 442 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: you've opened in April this year. Yes, How long did 443 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: it take you to get to that point of opening? 444 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 3: MG? Literally like not even two months? 445 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: So you did click. 446 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 3: So I contacted one of my real estate friends and 447 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 3: was like, do you have any like, yeah, like retail 448 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 3: spaces available. She was like, oh, like, I'll have a look. 449 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 3: And I think in like two days, like in forty 450 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 3: eight hours, I'd found one and then went for a 451 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 3: look in it and just signed the lease. This sounds 452 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 3: really this sounds really crazy. But I hadn't got an oven, 453 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 3: like you know, the big commercial oven around. I didn't 454 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 3: have anything. I hadn't even thought about signage. 455 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 2: I hadn't. 456 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 3: I knew I wanted to like fully rebrand before opening 457 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 3: the shop because obviously I needed to do the you know, 458 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 3: front banners and everything, and I just signed the least 459 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 3: because I was like the quicker. If I have that 460 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 3: stress behind me of like, you've signed the least, you 461 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 3: need to start right now, then I'll do it. Otherwise 462 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 3: I felt like it was going to be one of 463 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 3: those things where I'm like, well, i'll rebrand, then I'll 464 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 3: get this, and that could take a year. 465 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: Like you're delaying on purpose almost. I think that's really 466 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,959 Speaker 1: good as well. I'm all for that, Like even if 467 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 1: you only feel you know, seventy percent, ready, jump in 468 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: and figure out the other thirty percent as you're going yeah, 469 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: because I think it's the fear of starting if you. 470 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 3: Overthink it, Yeah, and you're gonna yeah, you know, I 471 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 3: just need to do it quick while I've got like 472 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 3: the momentum. And then it's like I think I was 473 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 3: literally in there, I'd gotten the keys, and then I 474 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 3: drove home, change my clothes, got my golden retriever Poppy. 475 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 3: You picked her up, you took her there and started painting. 476 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 3: Literally that day when. 477 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: You walk did you feel like so when I go 478 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: see like have seen my stores for the first time. 479 00:20:58,760 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: When I walk in, I'm like, yep. 480 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: This is this door. 481 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 2: Did you have that same feeling? Yes, yeah with this 482 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 2: I only. 483 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 3: Looked at one place, but it just so happened to 484 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 3: be the right way standards. No, but I walked in 485 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 3: and I was like, I know exactly where everything's going 486 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 3: already almost and the front area. I just thought, this 487 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 3: is such a good start, and I know what I'll 488 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 3: do if it gets really big, or I know what 489 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do if it doesn't really get busy, Because 490 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 3: in my head, I was like, well, if it doesn't 491 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 3: work out, I'll make a commercial kitchen space. All my 492 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 3: small business baking friends can like rent a few hours 493 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: at a time from me, you know, like that, and 494 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 3: it can be like a little like baking hub and 495 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 3: to like throw ideas off each other. That would be awesome. 496 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 3: That was kind of like my if no one shows 497 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: up on open day and I kind of need to 498 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 3: like make money to pay this off, yeah, then that's 499 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 3: what I can do. 500 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 501 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 3: But I didn't really think much into it because it's like, oh, 502 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 3: if it doesn't work, it doesn't. 503 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 2: Work, you'll figure it out. 504 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: I think that's the best mindset to have. And now 505 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: that you've been open like haven't even been open for 506 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: that long, like just like what four months? Yeah, what's 507 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: been your biggest lesson so far? 508 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 3: Oh? First one is these are contradicting each other. 509 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: Okay. 510 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 3: First one is you have to spend money to make money, yes, 511 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 3: and when you've been a very small bakery business for 512 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 3: so long, it's scary to be investing in all this 513 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 3: stuff in hopes that when I could have just stayed 514 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: what I was doing and I was going sweet yep, unintended. 515 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 3: Second second is if you don't have it, don't spend it. 516 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 3: Almost so hear me out, Okay, I like you fully 517 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 3: self funded and everything like that. The idea of getting 518 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 3: a business loan does really scare me because I just 519 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 3: don't want that over my head. I would just rather 520 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 3: work really hard, like I'll do a quick sell if 521 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 3: I need to make something to pay something off. And 522 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 3: I think people go too big and get themselves into 523 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 3: too much kind of like business debt, and then they're 524 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 3: like forced to go to work, whereas I'm in no 525 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 3: debt right now. If I want to not open the 526 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 3: shop for two weeks or and open the shop, because 527 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 3: it's like as long as I can just make the rent, 528 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 3: I didn't want to get all this fancy equipment. I 529 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 3: didn't I could have gotten an architect in and doing 530 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 3: all of this stuff, but I just thought, how about 531 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 3: I just do it how I want to a little 532 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 3: bit like DIY with my partner for the first few years, 533 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 3: and then then I can go bigger. I can always 534 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 3: go bigger, but I just need to start, yes, And 535 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 3: I just, like, you know, some of my business friends 536 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 3: lent me tables and silver benches to work off to 537 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 3: begin with, because I just didn't want to go into 538 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 3: too much debt and have that stress when I already off. Yeah, 539 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 3: when I was already stressed enough, thinking like this is 540 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 3: such a big change, like I can't couldn't even believe. 541 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 3: I had to find my rent money, which isn't even 542 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 3: that crazy, but like I had to find that rent 543 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 3: money every week. That's new. I hadn't had that before. 544 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 3: And so on top of all these other things, I 545 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 3: just was so happy to open my first day and 546 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 3: be like, I'm okay, if not one customer comes, I'll 547 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 3: work it out. 548 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 2: Does that make sense? And what day of the week 549 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 2: did you open? 550 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,959 Speaker 3: So I opened on a Saturday. I did a huge, 551 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 3: like big open grand opening, I actually only posted that 552 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 3: I was opening like three days earlier because my boyfriend 553 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: put up the big front signage in the pouring rain 554 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 3: like two days before. 555 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, should I better post about this? 556 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, oh, like everything's together, I guess 557 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 3: I could open. And I really wanted to be open 558 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 3: before Easter, and because I'm you know, Easter and then 559 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 3: Mother's Day kind of like oh, come quite quick. I 560 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 3: knew I want to be open my favorite times of 561 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 3: the year. And yeah, I just posted. 562 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: Now was it? How was the opening day? 563 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 3: It was insane in Saturday, Like I feel like my 564 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 3: feet are still numbs. So I worked. I left the 565 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 3: house the night before open, no, like two days before 566 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 3: opening my house at like five am, went to work, 567 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 3: didn't come home, and then kept working through the night 568 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 3: until the next day. 569 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. 570 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 3: And then I came home at like seven pm. Like 571 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 3: this is like forty eight hours later. 572 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 2: You're working like two days straight, getting baking everything. 573 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I do it all myself. 574 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 2: Wow. 575 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 3: Even still yeah, well do you have anyone working in 576 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 3: the shop. Well, my mum and my boyfriend just like 577 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 3: serve customers to help me. But I do it like 578 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 3: all the baking. 579 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: Wow. 580 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you don't have a helper yet. 581 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 2: No, but you're ready for one. 582 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't start emailing your resumes. 583 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna have job application at me. 584 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 3: Well I did try a few years ago, and I 585 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 3: wasn't ready for it. I just I'm such a perfectionist. 586 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 3: And I know it seems like you. 587 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 2: Just make a cupcake. 588 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 3: Anyone can make a cupcake, which I guess they can. 589 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 3: But I do wedding cakes like I do, like you know, 590 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 3: three forty your wedding cake. And I do catering for 591 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 3: the casinos and for A and Z and all these 592 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 3: huge cooperations. Like those orders. 593 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: Freak me out. I need to make sure they're perfect. 594 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 3: I can't deliver something that's not perfect. The only way 595 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 3: I know not to be perfect is I'm micromanaging. And 596 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 3: I know this is a headache to you. This is 597 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 3: like you're probably like, this is crazy, bitch. 598 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: No, But I think if that works for you in 599 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: your business, then by all means you need to get 600 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: to doing those things. I think moving you know, into 601 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 1: the future, if you are wanting to grow, you're going 602 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: to have to grow your team at some point, and 603 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: that could just be by having one person coming in 604 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: and helping out, and it would be giving them tasks 605 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: that you're confident in giving to them, where it's not 606 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: like putting together the final cake, but maybe it's like 607 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: mixing up all the batches and like those easy things 608 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: that you know that you can trust someone to do. 609 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: And I think, I think as well, what you'll learn, 610 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: because you're reminding me of me right now. When I 611 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: first started Fate, and when I first started Fate, like 612 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: you listen to the pod, I hired AJ's mum's family friend, 613 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: like a young girl, and she was just coming to 614 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: help me two to three days a week, just casual hours. 615 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: And I remember feeling the same even though the business 616 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 1: had just started, I guess because I'd been in control 617 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: of everything, and you know, she was coming in and 618 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: helping me with the emails and helping me pick and 619 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: pack the orders. 620 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: And going down to the post office. 621 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: And even then I would feel myself going, that's right, 622 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: I'll do it, like it's just easier to me. But 623 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: at some stage, if you want to grow as a 624 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: business owner, you have to let go and you have 625 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: to just learn to trust people, even though it's the 626 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: hardest thing in the world, and when it's your own 627 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: business and your little baby that you've worked on for 628 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: so long, it can feel so close to your heart 629 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: and like you kind of want to be like a 630 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: control freak because everything works perfectly when you do it. 631 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 2: But if you want to grow and. 632 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: Also if you want to grow yourself personally, if you 633 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: just kind of let those gates down a little bit 634 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: and let someone in and trust them, you'll thank yourself 635 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: for it a million times over. And I know it 636 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: feels really hard to do. Not me just giving you 637 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: advice in this episode. 638 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 3: This is like all I listened to with all the 639 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 3: other episodes going. I know I should be. 640 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 2: I was scared. 641 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 3: I was like, I can't tell her I got no stuff. 642 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: But if that works for you now, but just thinking 643 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: like into the future, like you could turn this into 644 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: something massive, but you have to learn to step back 645 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: and you have to get out of the way of 646 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: your own business, because you're in the way of your 647 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: own business right. 648 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 3: And I can feel it because I get into work 649 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 3: and I've got my list of things to do and 650 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 3: then I'm like, oh, but I said I was going 651 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 3: to like post it and. 652 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: See it could even be starting out actually by hiring 653 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: someone to be a content creator. 654 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 3: That is what he gave someone else the advice. And 655 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 3: I was listening to the pot and I was going, could. 656 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: Who also helps you ordering supplies, doing. 657 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: Mixing and like all the little basic stuff like I 658 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: don't know how cakes work, but mixing the. 659 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 6: Flower and eggs, you know, just there's no eggs, no eggs, 660 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 6: no eggs followers vegan eggs. 661 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 3: But like that's I guess another reason why I delayed 662 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 3: it so long, because being vegan, I have trust issues. 663 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 3: And I'm not even a crazy vegan. I choose to 664 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 3: not eat it because I like animals. If you agree, agree, 665 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 3: if you don't, you don't. I don't hurt you eat, 666 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 3: you don't hell it I eat. That's literally like my mentality. 667 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 3: When people come into the shop and they're like, I 668 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 3: didn't even know it was vegan, I'm like, that's a compliment. 669 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 3: If vegan say it, that's a compliment, I'm so grateful, 670 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 3: exactly right. But I guess when people are like my kid, 671 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 3: my kid, my beautiful son is turning it's turning one 672 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 3: and they've never ever tried a cake in their life, 673 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 3: and I'm going to order a cake. This is a 674 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 3: huge deal. They are severely anaphylactic to you know, eggs 675 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 3: or dairy or this, like can you do this? Can 676 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 3: you guarantee like this? 677 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, absolutely, I know that you're responsible for that. 678 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: But the thing is as well, like you can still 679 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: trust staff to do those things. And that could come 680 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: down to, like all the processes that you have in 681 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: place when you have people working for you, the training 682 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: that you provide them, and the ongoing training, and hiring 683 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: people that have a high attention to detail, and hiring 684 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,959 Speaker 1: people that are passionate about what you're doing. Like you 685 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: can find those kinds of people that you can try. 686 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 3: A boyfriend his trading job work, mister pantry, missus trust me. 687 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: Like the way that your business is running now is 688 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: obviously working fantastically and you can one hundred percent keep 689 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: it going this way. But if you want to grow 690 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: it into something big, you've got to move out of 691 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: the way of your own business to allow the business 692 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: to do its thing, and you need to trust people 693 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: and see them as. 694 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: An investment in your business. 695 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: You'll bring them in, they'll take all those little tasks 696 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: off you that you don't really need to be doing, 697 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: so then you can focusing Yeah, like washing up, the 698 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: cleaning up, the cleaning, Like you can have people come 699 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: in and do all those little tasks so then you 700 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: can focus on actually growing the business instead of right 701 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: now you're in the way of the business because you're 702 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: in the middle of it and you're controlling every single part, 703 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: which is great. 704 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm literally listening to twenty of ye Other episodes, 705 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 3: which is what I listened to and go. 706 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: I know, like I so you need to just do it, 707 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: even though you don't feel ready, even if you're sixty percent. 708 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: Get someone in and figure out the other forty percent 709 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: and work with them, and you know, build systems that 710 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: make you feel good. Train like you train them yourself, 711 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: so then you can trust that you know they know 712 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: what they're doing because I've thoroughly trained that. 713 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm at this crossroads of like I 714 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 3: can go there or I can just keep doing what 715 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 3: I'm doing, which is like been very fruitful and very funny. 716 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 3: And some mornings I'm like, oh, thank God, I'm going 717 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 3: this way easier, and then other mornings I'm like, should 718 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 3: have gone this way. I've got so much to. 719 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 2: Medical that I need to go to it. I know 720 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 2: that's the thing. 721 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: You know, you could stay the way that you're going 722 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: and absolutely love it, but then you could also be like, oh, 723 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: what if you know, in the future, if i'd if 724 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: i'd maybe hide someone else, and where could we be now? 725 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: And it's I think it's something that you have to 726 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: be very aware and mindful of. Is like, if you 727 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: are going to grow your business bigger than what it 728 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: is now, it's going to become challenging. 729 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: It's going to become harder. 730 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: That's just a part of life and business, especially when 731 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: you're bringing other people in. It's going to come with 732 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: its challenges, but it can obviously also be the most 733 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: rewarding thing ever. And if you find people that can 734 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: work with you and help you grow your business to 735 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,959 Speaker 1: that next level, like you're going to get a lot 736 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: of enjoyment out of that as well. Like that's what 737 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: I feel with Fate and our team is like I'm 738 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: so proud every day watching my team just show up 739 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: to work every day and absolutely kill it and they 740 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: love it and they're thriving. 741 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 3: That's even more rewarding than like. 742 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, But it just like all comes down to, 743 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: you know, where you want to take this thing. Obviously 744 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: you've had so much success in you know, such a 745 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: short time. Well you've been doing baking for a really 746 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: long time. But in terms of the shop, yeah, and 747 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: I don't think you need to rush it at all. 748 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: I think you've got plenty of time, and you're young, 749 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: and you're excited about it, which I think is the 750 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: most important thing. You can never be running a business 751 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: that you're not excited about. But I think it's good 752 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: to be like, where do I want to take this thing? 753 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: Do I want to go massive and open multiple bakeries? 754 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 3: Do I There is not going to be a franchise, 755 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 3: But you've. 756 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 2: Got it as well. 757 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: I said the same when I had my one Fate 758 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: store for the first three years, and I said never, never, never, 759 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: and our customers would go, please come to Sydney, please 760 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: come here. 761 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 2: Now we've got five and we're in three states. 762 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: And back in the day, I was like, I'm never 763 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,239 Speaker 1: opening another one because that would be too hard to 764 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: figure out how to have something in another location. 765 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 2: And I did it anyway, and I'm so glad that 766 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 2: I did. 767 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 3: People to comment the other day come to Perth, I'm like, 768 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 3: I haven't even been to Perth myself. 769 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: Never say never in business because you never know where 770 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: it might take you. But also like if you're loving 771 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: the way that you're doing things and it's succeeding, which 772 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: it obviously is, it's doing amazing for you, then like 773 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: enjoy that. 774 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 3: I really I love going in and I just put 775 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 3: my summer. I turn a pretty new episode and I go, yes, 776 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 3: I got Matt and I got Brits podcasts to listen to. 777 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 3: I don't know have to talk anymore. This is so good. 778 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: This is the perfect little life. Listen to my podcast cakes. 779 00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 2: That is my whole life. 780 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 3: But then I do think of like the stressful days 781 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 3: almost if I just got someone in just h if 782 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 3: you have a part time not that's the other thing too, 783 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 3: like having having someone else there you know to lean 784 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 3: on and you know when things go wrong. 785 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: It's nice to be surrounded by a team, even if 786 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: it's a tiny team, where you can problem solve together, 787 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 1: you know, and just even just I guess like the 788 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: social side of it as well, it's nice to just 789 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: be interacting with other people within your business and just 790 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: having fun together the same goal, especially with like a 791 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 1: business like yours where you're creating so much fun content 792 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: like there's so many opportunities there to have more fun 793 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 1: and you know, create more content. So yeah, it's definitely. 794 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: It's good that you're like mindful of it already. 795 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 3: No, like, definitely, everything you're telling me is like. 796 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 2: I know, I know I have about that. 797 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 3: That's perfectly. You'll have to down and listen. 798 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 2: I've got to mixed flower and water. 799 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 3: Sugar maybe if they're lucky. 800 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: You currently only open two days a week, and those 801 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: two days are big and you do it well, what 802 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: is the reasoning behind that and are you always going 803 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: to keep it that way or are you open to 804 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: opening any more days? 805 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 3: Yes, so I am only open Friday and Saturday nine 806 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 3: am till midday both days. So I'm open six hours 807 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 3: for my entire week. 808 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: I mean that's good for you, but obviously you're working 809 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: a lot behind the scenes. 810 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, of course, and it is just like madness 811 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 3: start to finish for the six hours basically every week. 812 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 3: It's honestly the best decision I could have made in 813 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 3: the terms of I'm sure I could make more money 814 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 3: if I open seven days a week, because I'm there anyways, 815 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 3: I'm there practically seven day coffees no, no, but but 816 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 3: I'm on this really nice strip of all of the 817 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 3: neighboring people like do coffees, and I feel like you. 818 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 2: Should bring in a coffee machine and a barista. 819 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,720 Speaker 3: Well maybe that's another thing. 820 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,240 Speaker 2: Yeah again, get the boyfriend shob yep. 821 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 3: I could definitely open seven days and I could make 822 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 3: so much more money in this you open all these hours, 823 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 3: but that's not I want to be a pop up 824 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 3: kind of hole in the wool little bakery. If you 825 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 3: make it, you make it. If you don't, you don't 826 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, I love doing 827 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 3: my wedding cakes and I love doing my custom cakes 828 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 3: and that is something I'll never give up. So this 829 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 3: is what I could do while still making sure I'm 830 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 3: doing what I love and I love opening the shop 831 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 3: as well. But I much prefer baking a wedding cake 832 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 3: than like kind of having a stressful like putting out stock. 833 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:55,760 Speaker 2: You know. This is again. 834 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: This is again like you need a higher staff so 835 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: they can be the one serving the customer and you 836 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: can still be there. 837 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 3: Who wants a cupcake on a Monday? 838 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: But you could do three days a week. You could 839 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: do four days a week and extend the hours a 840 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: little bit. Beyond midday and again like you being like 841 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: I love the wedding cakes, like that's where my passion is, 842 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: and like I don't really want to be stressing about 843 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: putting all the stock in the cabinet and getting it 844 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: ready blah blah blah. 845 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 2: That's where staff come in. 846 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 3: I find what's really hard. And this could be a 847 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 3: cop out and just an excuse, but like because I 848 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 3: started when I was seventeen, yes, like I was, some 849 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 3: people that came to that first Sunshae Coast Market still 850 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 3: come to my shop. 851 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 2: It's so nice and. 852 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 3: Like I have done, you know, like a baby shower, 853 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 3: then a first birthday cake, then the wedding cake, then 854 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 3: the second, third and fourth birthday cake. How family, And 855 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 3: I know them all and I see them all and 856 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 3: I talk to them all, and I know that I 857 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 3: just love being there to be like. 858 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 2: Oh hi, hi Anita, Oh I know you're getting a 859 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 2: choc chip croissant. 860 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 3: I just know that I love the baking side, but 861 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 3: I love that side as as well. 862 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: You just need to duplicate yourself basically, That's what I'm 863 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: saying that. But even still like thinking to you know, 864 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: you having those loyal customers that you love seeing. I 865 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,240 Speaker 1: think if those loyal customers have been on your business 866 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: journey with you, and you've been with them through moments 867 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: in their life, the birthdays, the babies and everything, I 868 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 1: think they would be genuinely happy to see your little 869 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: business growing and they forget to know, Yeah, they would 870 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: love it and support that. They'd love to get to 871 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: know the people that are working at your bakery the 872 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: same way, like yes, like I'm the owner of Faith. 873 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,760 Speaker 2: And yeah everyone everyone knows me as the owner of Fate. 874 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: But also like in all of our stores, our customers 875 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: have such good friendships with all of our store teams. 876 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 2: They know them by. 877 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: Name, like yeah, and I'm not there every day in 878 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: our stores, but people aren't going to be like, oh, 879 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: I'm not going to go in because Britain is not 880 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: going to be there. 881 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 3: It's because like there's other amazing crazy people. 882 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's an opportunity for other relationships to form. And 883 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: I think those loyal customers of yours would be the 884 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: number one people to support you in growing your business 885 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: because you know, I've got like seventy or eighty employees 886 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: and like, so it's big that you feel sick just 887 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: thinking about it, even though, like it's not because it's 888 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: like it happened gradually, you know, I didn't just all 889 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 1: of a sudden have seventy people working like me. 890 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 3: Imagine just like two people's like salary. 891 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, but on my shoulder, I'm like, that's the way 892 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,760 Speaker 1: I felt. But you've felt those ways so many times 893 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: already in your business journey, when you were like, oh, 894 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to open a shop, I'm scared of I'm 895 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: going to go to the market. Oh I didn't make 896 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: enough money. Yeah, it's just the same thing. Yeah, it's 897 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: the same sort of thing when it comes to hiring staff. 898 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, I wouldn't. 899 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't let the fear of like your customers not 900 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: seeing you every single time hold you back from something 901 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: that you might want to explore. 902 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 903 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my another piece of advice. You're welcome. 904 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the most challenging custom order that you've ever done? 905 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: Do you have like one cake that you think back 906 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: to and go, oh, that was almost a nightmare, or 907 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: have you ever had like a nightmare? Have you ever 908 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:11,959 Speaker 1: had something go really wrong with a cake? 909 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 3: In my first few years, I was delivering a wedding cake, and. 910 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 2: That's a lot of pressure. 911 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: By the way, I can't work in the wedding industry 912 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 1: because I would. 913 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 2: Feel the pressure of it. If it's not perfect, it's 914 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 2: all my fault. 915 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 3: If especially all these you know, two hour away once 916 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 3: if something goes wrong, I don't I can't spake the road. 917 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 2: And the cake like flies in. 918 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 3: The cattle grid when you go into venues and they 919 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 3: have like you know, the. 920 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm driving cake in my hands. 921 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 3: And so basically it was on like do you ever 922 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 3: been to Brisbane Kangaroo Point. It's you know, everyone in Brison, 923 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 3: Oh no, yeah, you can't really drive to this venue. 924 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 3: I'm not saying the venue because I don't scare other bakers, 925 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 3: but it's terrifying. And basically I had to walk like 926 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 3: the three tiered cake down and it's along like a 927 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 3: running walking path and like bike path, and I had 928 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 3: to walk like it feels like the Kakoda track. It 929 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 3: was probably only five. 930 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: Hundred meters, but it felt like you were going on 931 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: a track, felt like it. 932 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 3: And we're in the car and like you put like 933 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 3: stability inside wedding cakes, and the cake kind of started 934 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 3: to like the flowers were kind of coming to one side. 935 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 3: The stability started to poke up the top, which means 936 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 3: the cake is sinking, you know, And so I'm thinking, oh, 937 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 3: what's going on here? 938 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 2: What's going on here? 939 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:36,919 Speaker 3: It's like Queensland weather as well hot, and like being vegan, 940 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 3: I can't use some products, so I have to use 941 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 3: other ones, so it's not stable, can't use jelatin blah 942 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 3: blah blah. And so I'm walking it down and I 943 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 3: have to keep like leaning it against the handrails and 944 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 3: then like keep going. It's so heavy leaning into handrails. 945 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 3: Get there, set it up all as well. Ninety nine 946 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 3: point nine percent. Sure go home thinking, oh my god, 947 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 3: I'm and here's something I'm gonna go, here's something going 948 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 3: to They contacted me, perfect cake was amazing, everything ra ra. 949 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 3: The scary part is that like two or three years 950 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 3: later they came to one of my like markets or 951 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 3: pop ups and they got divorced. And so I think 952 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 3: that's like my one real like bad cake. Sorry, So 953 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, do you think that was a sign? Was 954 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 3: it me? Was it them? The rashit like? Was it 955 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 3: the wedding? Bad jujus? That that just made it bad? 956 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 3: So that's my only real like I mean. 957 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,800 Speaker 1: I don't like it was your fault or the cake 958 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,240 Speaker 1: for the cakes fault because the divorce. 959 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 2: Rate is quite high. This is true, Like I think 960 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 2: it's like sev more. 961 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 3: That is concerning. I can happily never get married to 962 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 3: my partner Joey, and we're just. 963 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: Like people say, when are you and ag gonna get married? 964 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: And maybe one day, but also like we're just happy 965 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 1: the way we are, you know. 966 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, well at least I can make mariwn cake one benefit. 967 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 2: Very save some money on that. Make your own cake. Yeah, 968 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 2: I love it. 969 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: So we've spoken a lot in this episode about where 970 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: I think you should take this business if I see 971 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 1: the things that I'd be doing. But where do you 972 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: see yourself in five years? What's an ideal world for 973 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 1: you and Pipper's Pantry? 974 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 3: I have two years left of my shop, please, right, and. 975 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 2: I know I've only had not even. 976 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 3: I think in two years I will keep my shop 977 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 3: for sure, but I'll close the front because I would 978 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 3: like to have babies and take that root route. Can 979 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 3: you say, yeah, I don't know the correct have babies 980 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:50,839 Speaker 3: and sorry, and so I would love to do that. 981 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 3: But I will still take on my custom cakes. And 982 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 3: it's just because I really want to be a very 983 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 3: involved mom, like, oh I want I can't wait to 984 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 3: have kids. And I know, like some people, I. 985 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 2: Think that's like the worst thing in the world secretly. 986 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 3: But I can't wait to be really like involved. And 987 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 3: so for me to just be able to do a 988 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 3: couple of custom cakes a. 989 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 2: Week, I think that would be perfect. 990 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 3: That is like my dream. And then come I'm going 991 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,399 Speaker 3: to just keep my place so you know and so, 992 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 3: and then when I choose to, I can open it 993 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 3: again or I can then fully hire five people to 994 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 3: just pull. 995 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 2: Out run around again. This is when staff could come 996 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 2: in handy. You can have that working even when you're off. 997 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 3: So and that I think I want to be just 998 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 3: like a really involved mom. That's why I'm working so hard. 999 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 3: That truly is is because I want to set myself up. 1000 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 3: I love my business and everything, but I don't want 1001 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 3: to get so involved in my business that I wake 1002 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 3: up in ten years and be like I have a 1003 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,800 Speaker 3: really big, popular bakery. But like, do I like my life? 1004 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 3: Like do I like my family and my partner and everything, 1005 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,839 Speaker 3: And so I really do think that I'll always have it, 1006 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 3: but I will definitely like have a little dip and 1007 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,399 Speaker 3: then hopefully everyone will accept me back and some base 1008 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,720 Speaker 3: so mastermind hasn't come, and by then. 1009 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: I can envision it. You're gonna have staff working for 1010 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 1: you anyway. You're going to be able to take a 1011 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: step back anyway and trust them that they'll keep it 1012 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 1: running while you're having your time off and you can 1013 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: pop in when you need to. 1014 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 3: Well, that's my dream. Imagine me just had a baby 1015 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 3: looking stunning obviously, not that that's unrealistic or anything. My 1016 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 3: little stroller going to visit my shop to a treat 1017 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 3: for my kid. You know that would be awesome, But 1018 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 3: I genuinely have no idea where it's. 1019 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: Got a pretty good idea, like I think you've got 1020 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 1: a solid answer already. If you ask me where i'd 1021 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: be in five years, I couldn't tell you wherever the 1022 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 1: wind takes me. If you all of a sudden, I've 1023 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,320 Speaker 1: got one last question for you. This is just a 1024 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 1: bit of a random fun one. If you all of 1025 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: a sudden couldn't do what you're doing now and you 1026 00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 1: had to go and work for someone else, are we 1027 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 1: going to give it this an that you can't bake. Yeah, okay, 1028 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 1: let's go real hard you can't do baking. Okay, you 1029 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 1: can't do any of it. It's all gone tomorrow and 1030 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: you had to go and work somewhere else for someone else. 1031 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 2: What are you picking? 1032 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 3: Okay, this is going to come out of nowhere. Like 1033 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 3: I feel like lots of people listening will be like, 1034 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 3: why would you want to do that? 1035 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1036 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 3: But like I just love to be like a property 1037 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 3: manager a real estate agent. But hear me out, hear 1038 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 3: me out. I want to like help businesses find places 1039 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 3: to like kind of start slash. But I don't know. 1040 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 3: Maybe I want to be like a business development manager 1041 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 3: for a business, like because like real estates don't have 1042 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:41,879 Speaker 3: a good rap. 1043 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,839 Speaker 1: Sorry guys, they really don't, but they're changing slowly. Yeah, surely, Yes, 1044 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 1: I did listened to. 1045 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 2: The Yes, he was amazing. 1046 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,479 Speaker 3: It was so good. And I also just like love. 1047 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,280 Speaker 3: I really love house. I love like properties and stuff 1048 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 3: like that. Or I feel like I would love to 1049 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 3: be a business manager, but not that fancy. I just 1050 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 3: love talking to people and I love love like tell 1051 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 3: me your problems and let's just like spitball, you know, yeah, 1052 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 3: that kind of vibe. But honestly, I can't see I 1053 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 3: could never work for someone else, Yeah, I could. I've 1054 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,919 Speaker 3: never had like a real, like a real real job. 1055 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 3: I've never I you know, I've been like a barista 1056 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 3: at two places. Yeah, and that's like I don't have 1057 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 3: any formal education. I don't have any formal like qualifications 1058 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 3: other than like my home ch in grade twelve, So 1059 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,879 Speaker 3: I don't have anything to show for it other than 1060 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:36,919 Speaker 3: doing my business. 1061 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 1: I feel like you learn the most ever when you're 1062 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,879 Speaker 1: in business, So I think that's an amazing thing. 1063 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,320 Speaker 2: And I think what you've done is absolutely amazing. 1064 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 1: Your story is certainly very inspiring, and we just love 1065 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 1: to see a young woman getting out there and giving 1066 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 1: it a red hot crack, even when you feel like 1067 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,360 Speaker 1: you have no idea what you're doing, because that's pretty 1068 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,800 Speaker 1: much all of us. To wrap up our big business episodes, 1069 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,719 Speaker 1: as you know, because you've been dying to tell you screenshot, 1070 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,440 Speaker 1: we've got a tip of the week coming from you, 1071 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 1: Pep waiting a tip of the week for us. 1072 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 3: Does this count if it's like a quote? Yeah, okay, 1073 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 3: of course we love a quote. The quote is and 1074 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 3: I feel like I have to explain it because mum goes. 1075 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,319 Speaker 3: People gonna know what that means. So the quote is 1076 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 3: to fall asleep, you must pretend to be asleep first, 1077 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 3: and that's how everything works. Yes, and I love that, 1078 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 3: Like when you go to sleep at night, you close 1079 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 3: your eyes and. 1080 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 2: Then pretend for a lit and then then you fall. 1081 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 3: Asleep, whereas that is literally in business, pretend to be 1082 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 3: a freaking influencer and post and then you might be 1083 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 3: go viral in this And I love the thing you 1084 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 3: said about posting is like doing the lottery. You might 1085 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:41,880 Speaker 3: win it, you might not, like just post it and 1086 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 3: you could go viral, or you could just you know, 1087 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 3: still get like two hundred years, which is still a lot. 1088 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 2: I love that. I love that mindset. 1089 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,840 Speaker 1: I also saw a TikTok literally just last night and 1090 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 1: I reposted it. It's the little trend happening at the 1091 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,919 Speaker 1: moment where people are singing to this song but they're 1092 00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 1: making up the words and it's got auto tune. Have 1093 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,879 Speaker 1: you seen people doing that trend in the last twenty 1094 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,879 Speaker 1: four hours? Anyway, this lady was saying, if you can 1095 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,359 Speaker 1: overthink the worst in every scenario, like you know how 1096 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,360 Speaker 1: you dwell and think of the worst, why don't you 1097 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: also do the same to the best possible outcome, like 1098 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 1: the like be delusional because we're always like thinking of 1099 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 1: the worst case scenario and freaking out over that. Why 1100 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,400 Speaker 1: don't we do the same also for the best, the 1101 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:24,800 Speaker 1: best possible scenario. 1102 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 2: Do both? 1103 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:26,240 Speaker 3: Do both? 1104 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 1: So I absolutely love that tip of the week. Thank 1105 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 1: you for sharing, and thank you for coming all this 1106 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:30,879 Speaker 1: way to being on the pod. 1107 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 2: You've literally come all. 1108 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 1: The way ever Brisbane and now you're flying back up 1109 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 1: and gone straight to making cakes. 1110 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 3: Yes, this weekend I have the Brisbane Vegan Expo and 1111 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 3: my shop opening. 1112 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,759 Speaker 2: So, oh my goodness, and you've just thrown in a 1113 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 2: trip to Sydney just to. 1114 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 3: That's why I've got to go to all the bakeries 1115 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,840 Speaker 3: and get treats keep me awake while I'm working overnight. 1116 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 3: So you're staying here for the night, No, oh, you're 1117 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,919 Speaker 3: going back. I'll probably have an all nighter at the shop. 1118 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,799 Speaker 1: Oh yeah right, iemen and all night a like staying here, no, 1119 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,239 Speaker 1: and all night of baking yep, doing my favorite thing. 1120 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 2: I know. 1121 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,680 Speaker 3: A new episode of my show Come literally comes out 1122 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:05,920 Speaker 3: five pm, so I've got to make sure. 1123 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 1: I'm home perfect well, Peter, thank you so much for 1124 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,919 Speaker 1: coming on. Thank you for getting it. Amazing you didn't 1125 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 1: get in touch with us like Xanders or a post. 1126 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 6: Right. 1127 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna say I was scouted. 1128 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:23,840 Speaker 1: Scouted obviously everyone would by this point in the episode, 1129 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 1: nowhere to find you, But just in case, tell us 1130 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 1: all your Instagrams and where your shop is again. 1131 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 3: So Instagram is at Pippers dot Pantry p I P 1132 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 3: P A S P A N T L Y. My 1133 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,399 Speaker 3: shop is in camp Hill. So it's five six five 1134 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 3: Old Cleveland Road, camp Hill. 1135 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,320 Speaker 1: And if anyone goes within the week that this episode 1136 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 1: comes out on a Friday. 1137 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,360 Speaker 2: Or a Saturday from you. 1138 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 1: Only got your six hours, Yeah, then you need to 1139 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 1: go in and save big business. 1140 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, say big business, and you can have a free 1141 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,439 Speaker 3: brownie or a free cupcake. How's that you heard it here? 1142 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 2: First, I'll be interested to see if anyone actually does. 1143 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,399 Speaker 3: I know, I'll be posting, be taking photos of them. 1144 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for coming on they and 1145 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 1: keep up the amazing work and I'm so keen to 1146 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:09,919 Speaker 1: see you in a year or two from now. 1147 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 3: Same time next year, we need like five. 1148 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,319 Speaker 1: Set a calendar reminder and I need to set one 1149 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 1: to be like, go check out what pipp has done 1150 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 1: in the last four months. 1151 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely, thanks so much. Do you won't do you, I'll 1152 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:24,800 Speaker 3: do you proud. 1153 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 2: I'll do you proud. I won't do you proud.