WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 30 July

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Sharry. We look forward to seeing you again

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<v Speaker 2>same time tomorrow night. Now, by this time tomorrow night,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna know whether we're about to get another the.

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<v Speaker 3>Interest rateive Lise, this is so close where.

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<v Speaker 2>We know the Reserve Bank basically needs to be talked

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<v Speaker 2>out of it because last month they were going to

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<v Speaker 2>do it. We'll tell you the information that'll go into

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<v Speaker 2>the machine and see what happens by this time tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Like everyone else who's watching the games every now and then,

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<v Speaker 2>why aren't they handing out flowers instead they're handing out

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<v Speaker 2>a box?

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<v Speaker 3>What's in the box?

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<v Speaker 2>Nigel Farag back on the show. The only place you'll

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<v Speaker 2>see him and Assi Telly he is in the UK Parliament,

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<v Speaker 2>but he'll be back here on Paul Murray Live tonight

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<v Speaker 2>and whatever the hell this is?

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<v Speaker 1>Okaylly, hellway.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>In the meantime, though, there is a spectacular reason to

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<v Speaker 2>go outside if you're in the southern parts of the country.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the phenomenon which.

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<v Speaker 2>Was around in May, which is Aurora Estrallas, which just

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<v Speaker 2>produced some of the most spectacular scenery in the skies. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's had another run another version of it. These were

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<v Speaker 2>some photos from the very south of the country that

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<v Speaker 2>came in yesterday, and experts are telling us that there

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<v Speaker 2>is another chance to do it and to have a

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<v Speaker 2>look at it tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently the best places, of course Surprise, Surprise.

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<v Speaker 2>Tasmania and maybe up even into some parts of Victoria.

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<v Speaker 3>But what are we talking about here and why? Is

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<v Speaker 3>this phenomena one that's worthy of Instagram for everyone. If

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<v Speaker 3>you can get a.

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<v Speaker 4>Photo, Victorians can treat themselves to another spectacular aurora this evening,

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<v Speaker 4>just two months after a massive view of magnetic storm

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<v Speaker 4>lit up the sky across the state. Experts are predicting.

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<v Speaker 1>Another one tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a treat for those who missed out on the

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<v Speaker 4>last one, But meteorologists say this one won't quite be

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<v Speaker 4>as big. Auroras are caused by particles in the atmosphere colliding,

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<v Speaker 4>the different colors.

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<v Speaker 3>Depending on the types of atoms.

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<v Speaker 4>They're typically seen at the poles, requiring major environmental phenomena

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<v Speaker 4>like geomagnetic storms to bring them as far north as Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew all that.

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<v Speaker 2>I like started the show with pretty pictures. Now let's

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<v Speaker 2>get to some ugly news. That is around today. Cost

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<v Speaker 2>of living number one issue in the country when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to politics, but more importantly, the number one issue

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<v Speaker 2>for households. No matter what type of household.

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<v Speaker 3>That you're in.

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<v Speaker 2>If you live by yourself, a few live with the

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<v Speaker 2>same person you have for decades, if you just moved

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<v Speaker 2>in with somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>You get the point.

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<v Speaker 2>Kids, no kids, grandkids, All of it matters. All of

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<v Speaker 2>it is costing so much money.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The Reserve Bank, well, it has one indication indicator about

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<v Speaker 2>whether it does or doesn't raise interest rates, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is inflation between two and three percent. Tomorrow we get

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<v Speaker 2>the final bit of data that we have been building

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<v Speaker 2>to for the past couple of months, and it will

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<v Speaker 2>be the inflation data that will tell us whether we

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<v Speaker 2>are getting closer to two to three percent or we

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<v Speaker 2>are getting further away from two to three percent. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>to give you an idea of how they work out,

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<v Speaker 2>which things in the economy that are costing more or

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<v Speaker 2>slightly less put into a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Called the basket of goods.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, these can be all sorts of things, from the

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<v Speaker 2>things that you buy at the shops to what you

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<v Speaker 2>do when it comes to filling.

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<v Speaker 3>Your car or filling your belly.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's just go back to a sort of a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a high school economics lesson here for everyone,

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<v Speaker 2>what do they put into the quote unquote basket of

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<v Speaker 2>goods to decide whether inflation is going up or down?

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<v Speaker 2>Now there's a whole bunch of them, but the key

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<v Speaker 2>ones are alcohol and tobacco. Now, apart from the basic

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<v Speaker 2>cost of this, remember, tax is a big part of

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<v Speaker 2>this as well. So inevitably when taxes go up, as

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<v Speaker 2>does the inflation number.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, petrol, how often do we talk about that?

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<v Speaker 2>And again, barely under two dollars no matter where you

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<v Speaker 2>happen to go in the country, bread and cereal products,

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<v Speaker 2>what we wear, the power to power our homes, and

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<v Speaker 2>we know that that keeps going up every time we

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<v Speaker 2>get a new update from people, because the system has

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<v Speaker 2>not fully transitioned, and the cost of transitioning is of

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<v Speaker 2>course billions billions of dollars. Also, the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that you buy from asus market, including non alcoholic beverages,

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<v Speaker 2>those are part of what the Reserve Bank looks at

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<v Speaker 2>each and every month to decide whether or not the

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<v Speaker 2>economy needs to be slowed because of inflation. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>per capita recession we're in right now, so effectively Australians

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<v Speaker 2>are in recession.

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<v Speaker 3>But the lagging.

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<v Speaker 2>Indicator here of inflation still remains too high. They only

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<v Speaker 2>have one option. You put them up where you put

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<v Speaker 2>them down. Furnishing's household equipment and services again, clothing, housing,

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<v Speaker 2>and an area that does not get enough attention, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is the increase in insurance.

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<v Speaker 3>Now your car, boat, home, all the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 2>All of those insurance premiums keep going up now for

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<v Speaker 2>a whole collection of different reasons. But nobody's insurance is

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<v Speaker 2>worth less or they're sending you a bill that's less

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<v Speaker 2>than this time last year. So that, along with a

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<v Speaker 2>whole collection of other things what they double check compared

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<v Speaker 2>to this time last year. Also month on month, the

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<v Speaker 2>picture has been building were remember you've got to be

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<v Speaker 2>between two and three percent, and the Reserve Bank will

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<v Speaker 2>keep interest rates until the inflation number gets down between

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<v Speaker 2>two and three percent.

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<v Speaker 3>Will bugger what the consequences are now?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course the government would be desperately hoping that there

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<v Speaker 2>is no change. It helps their political fortunes, but the

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<v Speaker 2>reality of where we are heading is that inflation, as

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<v Speaker 2>you can see last quarter was three point four percent

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<v Speaker 2>and then went up to three point six percent in

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<v Speaker 2>the first of the three months that are counted. It

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<v Speaker 2>then hit four percent in June. So the number has

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<v Speaker 2>to be kind of mid three point five or even

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<v Speaker 2>lower for the number to end up kind of near

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<v Speaker 2>where January was. But remember the numbers that they had

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<v Speaker 2>in and around January is what fed into their decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>Where we were told openly by the Reserve Bank that

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<v Speaker 2>at their last meeting they had no conversation about dropping

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<v Speaker 2>them and there was kind of a fifty to fifty

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<v Speaker 2>conversation about holding which is what they did or increasing.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this has serious consequences because for anyone who was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to pay off a home or pay off an

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<v Speaker 2>investment property that somebody is renting in these are very

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<v Speaker 2>serious times. No matter where I go in the country,

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<v Speaker 2>be it for our town or just out and about

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<v Speaker 2>in normal life, this is the number one concern. So

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<v Speaker 2>what's the expectations of those who know the numbers way

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<v Speaker 2>better than me. Fation has not only stopped falling, and

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<v Speaker 2>as a round four, it might even be picking up

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<v Speaker 2>this year, and of course if that's the case, then

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<v Speaker 2>we are in a world of trouble. But why does

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<v Speaker 2>this become a central political issue, because remember Jim Chalmers

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<v Speaker 2>told us that his budget that spent billions of dollars

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<v Speaker 2>on tax cuts, which, of course, in terms of the

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<v Speaker 2>reality of how they were accepted by Australians was too little,

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<v Speaker 2>too late. Remember there was a cost living crisis last

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<v Speaker 2>year and they pulled fifteen hundred dollars away from you

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<v Speaker 2>as an automatic tax return. And then they think fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>dollars a week for people on the lowest part of

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<v Speaker 2>the income scar would be enough to change the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course it is not. And they told us that

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<v Speaker 2>the budget would in fact fight inflation. But if inflation

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<v Speaker 2>has continued to go up since the budget, and if

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<v Speaker 2>this overall month by month picture is reflected in the

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<v Speaker 2>quarterly picture, which is the three most recent months bunched together, well,

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<v Speaker 2>then the Reserve Bank, who seem to be so close

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<v Speaker 2>last time to increasing interest rates, would most likely interest

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<v Speaker 2>will most likely increase them. If that's the case, political

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<v Speaker 2>disaster for the Labor Party, so they are trying to

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<v Speaker 2>will nothing to be.

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<v Speaker 5>Inflation in this country has moderated substantially from its peaks

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<v Speaker 5>in twenty twenty two. We expect inflation in tomorrow's CPI

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<v Speaker 5>numbers to be more persistent than we would like. We've

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<v Speaker 5>said that earlier in the week. Inflation has come off substantially,

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<v Speaker 5>but we need it to moderate further and faster. We're

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<v Speaker 5>confident that it will moderate further, but in the numbers tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 5>we're expecting inflation to be pretty persistent.

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<v Speaker 2>The numb one issue in the US presidential election is,

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<v Speaker 2>among other things, inflation. Their inflation rate is lower than ours.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be one of the big reasons why there may

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<v Speaker 2>well be a change of government in November, regardless of

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<v Speaker 2>who the Democrats have as their candidate. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>major reasons why there's a change of government in the

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<v Speaker 2>UK again was the cost of living and inflation. Their

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<v Speaker 2>rate of inflation is lower than it is here in Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Appoint the Liberal Party, while not wanting bad economic results,

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<v Speaker 2>knows they would be a political beneficiary should there be

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<v Speaker 2>an interest rate rise.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just the reality.

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<v Speaker 6>Bring inflation under control by using their fiscal reins, bring

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<v Speaker 6>those energy prices back down, make sure that they're spending

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<v Speaker 6>is under control. Sending the right signals to the market

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<v Speaker 6>so that the RBA doesn't have to keep raising interest rates.

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<v Speaker 2>As you know, this is a TV show that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>just send the weather man to regional Australia. We go

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<v Speaker 2>each and every month when it comes to our town

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<v Speaker 2>thanks to our very good friends at Harvey Norman, so

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<v Speaker 2>we are acutely aware of what it is like to

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<v Speaker 2>travel around the country, not just what the concerns are

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<v Speaker 2>outside of the major cities.

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<v Speaker 3>And without doubt, one of.

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<v Speaker 2>The biggest concerns for people who live outside of the

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<v Speaker 2>major cities is how it is to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>fly from regional centers back to major capital cities. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the reality of why you would have to do that

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<v Speaker 2>is pretty obvious. There are more cancer experts in the

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<v Speaker 2>capital cities, there are more health experts. There are a

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<v Speaker 2>whole collection of people like engineers or lawyers or you

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<v Speaker 2>name it, who might be the people who you need

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<v Speaker 2>to interact with, who aren't going to company you, so

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<v Speaker 2>you have to go to them, Which is why the

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<v Speaker 2>potential problems for Rex Airlines is a huge issue right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I was listening to Robie Catter, the great MP from

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<v Speaker 2>North Queensland based in and around Mount Eyes, on the

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<v Speaker 2>radio today and he is frightened if REX does somehow

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<v Speaker 2>collapse or ends up cutting back on its services. The

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<v Speaker 2>number of places that it will be servicing, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>starts to fall off the map, and other airlines don't service.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of these areas.

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<v Speaker 2>So if we have a look at the service map

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<v Speaker 2>that REX has got up on its website right now,

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<v Speaker 2>you can see that the red and the orange is

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff that is exclusively paid for by Red. The

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<v Speaker 2>rest of these little areas or they are subsidized in

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<v Speaker 2>part by the state or federal government. But reality is,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to get from Brucebane to Mount iSER, most

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<v Speaker 2>likely REX is going to be part of the picture.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to make your way again from parts

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<v Speaker 2>of Tasmania to Melbourne or maybe even over to Perth,

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<v Speaker 2>REX is part of the picture. So it's scary today

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<v Speaker 2>when REX decided that it was going to halt its

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<v Speaker 2>seven thirty seven flight booking systems. Now they will still

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<v Speaker 2>be up in the air I understand from tomorrow, so

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<v Speaker 2>if you've got a ticket, they will be honoring the ticket.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll double check that information, but that's the latest that

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<v Speaker 2>I had before we went to air. But the consequences

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<v Speaker 2>of Australia's third biggest airline, which has helped push down

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<v Speaker 2>some of the prices between the major capitals.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, all of that is the side.

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<v Speaker 2>Business to the real business, which is flying people around

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<v Speaker 2>the more remote parts of our country. And it's a

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<v Speaker 2>bloody big joint and it is a forever walk. So

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<v Speaker 2>people need to be able to fly. They also need

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to fly at a reasonable price.

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<v Speaker 7>The reason for the Tree rating hold is that they're

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<v Speaker 7>awaiting a report from EY, which has been running a

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<v Speaker 7>rule over their books. They expect that report will provide

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<v Speaker 7>information on whether they can restructure the business so it

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<v Speaker 7>can continue, or whether administrators need to be appointed. So

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<v Speaker 7>it's a pretty grim situation for Rex unfortunately, which is

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<v Speaker 7>really the last thing Australia's aviation industry needs at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, again the airline, I'll obviously get in touch with you,

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<v Speaker 2>but I understand if you've got a flight in the

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<v Speaker 2>morning will of course be on it, as it will

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<v Speaker 2>be tomorrow or the next couple of days. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>driving home the point about why this airline is important,

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<v Speaker 2>and frankly, air travel outside of the major centers is

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<v Speaker 2>a bit like getting a bus or being able to drive.

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<v Speaker 2>It is just a necessary mode of transport. Now, I

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<v Speaker 2>love man e isab but obviously you can drive there,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's a bloody long way, so you have to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to fly. And if you don't fly directly

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<v Speaker 2>into Bruceban, you're able to get yourself to places like towns,

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<v Speaker 2>will Cans or other places to connect yourself back up

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<v Speaker 2>with the rest of the country. Now, these people are

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<v Speaker 2>our fellow Australians, citizens, taxpayers. They work in communities that

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<v Speaker 2>often produce the agriculture or mining that the Satan federal

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<v Speaker 2>government take for granted to be able to pay for everything.

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<v Speaker 2>So the people who work in those minds, work on

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<v Speaker 2>those farms and live in those communities should be given

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<v Speaker 2>the same access to transport as anyone living in any

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<v Speaker 2>major city. It's certainly a point that Bridget McKenzie makes

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<v Speaker 2>as a regional MP.

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<v Speaker 8>This isn't just about getting people to and from their

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<v Speaker 8>holidays in the regions. It's a critical economic service provider

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<v Speaker 8>and a health provider into our communities and the government

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<v Speaker 8>needs to guarantee, no matter what decision the Board of

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<v Speaker 8>REX makes over the coming period, that these services won't

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<v Speaker 8>disappear out of our community.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the key.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one thing for it to financially continue to find

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<v Speaker 2>a new way. It's another thing for it to continue

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<v Speaker 2>to be servicing the areas that its services. Now again

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<v Speaker 2>it's part of our town. We often use all different airlines,

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<v Speaker 2>but any time I've experienced a flight on REX in

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<v Speaker 2>a regional airline, the staff are fantastic. The captain will

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<v Speaker 2>literally say hello and goodbye to you, maybe even hand

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<v Speaker 2>you the bag. Let alone the people that are assisting

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<v Speaker 2>him on the flight, but clearly the employees they deserve

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<v Speaker 2>to remain in employment and the communities that they service

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<v Speaker 2>deserve to be connected to the rest of the country.

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<v Speaker 3>For its part, the federal government says, well, OK.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't want to see this thing fold, but of

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<v Speaker 2>course that means more taxpayer money. As a taxpayer, no

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<v Speaker 2>different than yourself, I have no problem if some government

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<v Speaker 2>money goes to awards making sure that people can be

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<v Speaker 2>connected to the rest of the country.

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<v Speaker 3>Is a Transport minister.

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<v Speaker 9>We're in touch obviously with REX and we expect them

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<v Speaker 9>to inform both HAVE six and then its customers tomorrow

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<v Speaker 9>about what is actually happening. Regional Australians still rely on REX.

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<v Speaker 9>It's an incredibly important airline. In many cases it's the

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<v Speaker 9>only airline are going into a range of smaller country

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<v Speaker 9>towns heavily reliant on it. Some of our King Island,

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<v Speaker 9>for example, heavily reliant on it as well. So we

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<v Speaker 9>are treating this very seriously and keep being very vigilant

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<v Speaker 9>about what is actually happening.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I try to give you the data, we

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<v Speaker 2>put the opinion on top of it. Well, the latest

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<v Speaker 2>data is yet again humbling for the federal government. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if you watch some political commentary or read it, you

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<v Speaker 2>would think that the Abenezy government had one hundred seats

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<v Speaker 2>in the Parliament of one hundred and fifty one, that

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<v Speaker 2>they would have such a massive backbench that whatever the

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<v Speaker 2>result is of the upcoming election, it doesn't matter. Absolute

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<v Speaker 2>guarantee that they will remain in majority government. Well, of

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<v Speaker 2>course they don't, and most likely they won't. Yet another poll,

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<v Speaker 2>this time coming from the Turmbul Times otherwise known as

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<v Speaker 2>the Guardian. It shows here that the Greens are on

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<v Speaker 2>eleven percent, lab on thirty two percent. Put them together,

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<v Speaker 2>well you can see that that's how they end up

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<v Speaker 2>staying in power at forty three percent, the Liberal National

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<v Speaker 2>Party at thirty four percent, and other can be anything

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<v Speaker 2>from the United Australia Party One Nation or the Teals. Interestingly,

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<v Speaker 2>in this though, when they get into two party preferred,

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<v Speaker 2>which there you can see is forty seven to forty six,

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<v Speaker 2>there is a number of undecideds. This is interesting if

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<v Speaker 2>you think about the federal election and all the conversation

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<v Speaker 2>that happens all the time. If I told you just

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<v Speaker 2>six percent, six percent was still up for grabs and

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<v Speaker 2>an actual fact, an extreme majority of people have no

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<v Speaker 2>plan to change their vote apart from what you are

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<v Speaker 2>starting to see here, but you can start to see

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<v Speaker 2>that when things like interest rates go up or there

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<v Speaker 2>is two little too late tax cuts, that when they fail,

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<v Speaker 2>they are an indication of what may potentially be happening

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<v Speaker 2>at the next election. Will there be a change of

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<v Speaker 2>government most likely, not until we get the evidence about

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening when it comes to the Teals. But will

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<v Speaker 2>there be a minority government? Most likely?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I've shown you before about just how deep into

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<v Speaker 2>minority the Labour Party can go before we start getting

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<v Speaker 2>into the really kooky members of the cross bench, like

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<v Speaker 2>some of the leftier Teals all the way through to

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<v Speaker 2>the Greens, and they are now into that territory. Whether safer,

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<v Speaker 2>more logical sets of hands. Well, they start passing the

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<v Speaker 2>ball and we're now down, according to Newspoll between seven

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<v Speaker 2>and eight seats being lost by the government. That puts

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<v Speaker 2>them down to seventy two. They would need, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>a whole lot more to get to seventy six than

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<v Speaker 2>you throw in a speaker at seventy seven, and the

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing becomes pretty damn precarious. But of course this

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<v Speaker 2>prime minister and his minister's one of the many reasons

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<v Speaker 2>for the reshuffle. And by the way, those who like

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you nothing to see here, they just moved

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<v Speaker 2>awesome people into other awesome positions.

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<v Speaker 3>Could somebody please tell me.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did all of this happen under the cover of

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<v Speaker 2>the Olympics when the Prime minister knew the extreme majority

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<v Speaker 2>of the country, including the what six percent who are

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<v Speaker 2>probably paying an attention to something else, wouldn't notice because of

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<v Speaker 2>course they're trying to hide their mistakes. But over and

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<v Speaker 2>over again, the Labour Party of the left of politics

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<v Speaker 2>likes to tell you that they are the ones who

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<v Speaker 2>are the worker's friend.

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<v Speaker 3>You often hear it echoed in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Media, workers, working class, workers, workers, But.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's actually have a look at a rather scary number,

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<v Speaker 2>not just for the Prime Minister but also for the

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<v Speaker 2>opposition leader about people's perceptions about the major political parties.

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<v Speaker 2>And it comes to the working conditions or the best

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<v Speaker 2>party that is best to take care of workers again,

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<v Speaker 2>essential poll Turnabul Times now the Improving the Rights of workers. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Labor defeats the Liberal Party, but guess who defeats that

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<v Speaker 2>neither supporting higher wages and better working conditions.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, guess what.

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<v Speaker 2>Beats the Labor Party or the Liberal Party neither or

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<v Speaker 2>unsure ensuring that the economy operates fairly for everyone. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the road wins and ensuring unions are

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<v Speaker 2>operating ethically remains even, meaning that either there's an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>for the Liberal Party to grow here, the Labor Party

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<v Speaker 2>to consolidate here, or someone to be able to drive

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<v Speaker 2>a stake right down the middle. And if you think

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<v Speaker 2>that the Labor Party is more likely to pull back

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<v Speaker 2>workers because well it's the traditional workers party, we'll have

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<v Speaker 2>a look at again, same poles, same organization, turnbul Times.

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<v Speaker 2>The Guardian, the essential organization yet again tells us more

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<v Speaker 2>than half of the country believes we are headed in

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong direct In fact, that's up fifteen points since

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<v Speaker 2>February of last year. The number of people who think

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<v Speaker 2>the countryes had in the right direction, which was already

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<v Speaker 2>a minority, is now down to thirty two percent. Again

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<v Speaker 2>a reminder of those who talk about politics for a living,

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<v Speaker 2>who don't seem to think there's anything wrong with the

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<v Speaker 2>government or think somehow they will upset the government by

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<v Speaker 2>pointing out anything that's wrong with the government. Therefore, just

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<v Speaker 2>repeat their lines that everything is awesome, everything's okay, they're

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with anything, and of course it's just

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<v Speaker 2>moving genius from one office to another in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>a cabinet reshuffle, or failures when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 2>budget or all of somebody else's making, or when all

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<v Speaker 2>else fails, memory wipe as if it's men in black well,

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<v Speaker 2>they'd like to tell you that Anthony Abernezi is of

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<v Speaker 2>course the solution to the problems, and he's a little

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<v Speaker 2>warning to the Prime Minister. Now like all politicians, he thinks,

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<v Speaker 2>just throw more of me at the problem and suddenly

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<v Speaker 2>everyone will turn around because he has the special connection

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<v Speaker 2>to Australians. Right wrong again. Turmbul Time's Essential poll, forty

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<v Speaker 2>six percent of people disapprove of the prime Minister's handling

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<v Speaker 2>of the job. Eleven percent of people don't know, forty

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<v Speaker 2>three percent approve, so yes, that's tight, but still more

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<v Speaker 2>people disapprove of the prime Minister's performance than approve. So

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<v Speaker 2>if the Prime Minister thinks, throw more prime minister at it, well,

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<v Speaker 2>the Australian perception of the prime minister is in negative territory.

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<v Speaker 2>But don't the left you media always tell us that

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Dutton's in a much worse position, that people hate him,

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<v Speaker 2>that there's no possible way that anyone could ever consider

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<v Speaker 2>him to be the alternative prime minister. Only problem is

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<v Speaker 2>they haven't told the very same people who tell us

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<v Speaker 2>that more people disapprove of the prime Minister's performance than approved,

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<v Speaker 2>Because guess what, more people approve of Peter Dutton's performance

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<v Speaker 2>than disapprove. It's tight forty two to forty one, and

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<v Speaker 2>with seventeen percent still undecided. That again, can be defined

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<v Speaker 2>by the attack ads that come from the Labour Party

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<v Speaker 2>or defined by the way Peter Dutton handles himself between

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<v Speaker 2>now and the next election. But right now you put

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<v Speaker 2>him side by side, the one with a better approval

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<v Speaker 2>rating is Peter Dutton, regardless of whom is suggested to

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<v Speaker 2>be the preferred prime minister, Which brings us to a

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<v Speaker 2>point that our mate Kevin Donnelly, who normally writes on

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<v Speaker 2>education matters and we talk to him quite regularly here

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<v Speaker 2>on Palmurray Live well. He wrote a great piece today

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<v Speaker 2>in the Daily Telegraph, the Herald's Sun, the Korean Mail,

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<v Speaker 2>the Adelaide Advertiser, the Mercury and everywhere else, making things worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Albo's policies fail to unify the nation. Whereas the ALP

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<v Speaker 2>began as a workers party fighting for higher wages and

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<v Speaker 2>better working conditions, it's now dominated by privileged inner city elites,

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<v Speaker 2>advocating rainbow alliances of woke causes excellent points, championing wind

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<v Speaker 2>and solar energy, thus destroying the nation's only reliable and

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<v Speaker 2>affordable coal and gas industry, pushing multiculturalism leading to racial

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<v Speaker 2>tensions and anti semitism and the fall of stem immigration.

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<v Speaker 2>Proof of the ALP is now the party of the

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<v Speaker 2>woke elites. One term Albow. Now, I don't think that

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<v Speaker 2>he will be a one term prime minister, but still

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<v Speaker 2>he goes.

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<v Speaker 3>On one term.

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<v Speaker 2>Albou insists that unifying instead of unifying the nation continues

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<v Speaker 2>to implement policies only making the situation worse. Chasing the

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<v Speaker 2>renewable energy delusion guarantees energy prices will escalate and the

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<v Speaker 2>economy flatline. All worth paying attention to. And again, speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of poles, I do love when media organizations basically like

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<v Speaker 2>to go out and do their best to try to

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<v Speaker 2>find evidence that youth crime is not a problem. This

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<v Speaker 2>is all just a giant hype job being done by

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<v Speaker 2>people who want to dislodge.

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<v Speaker 3>Governments, when, of course, the reality.

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<v Speaker 2>Of anyone who has ever been outside of the safe

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<v Speaker 2>little in the city bubbles, let alone outside of the

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<v Speaker 2>major capital city bubbles. Will they know that many people

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<v Speaker 2>are concerned, fearful and that has changed in the past

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years for a whole collection of different reasons. Well, interestingly,

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<v Speaker 2>the Channel nine newspapers, when some of their staff are

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<v Speaker 2>are or aren't on strike right now, will they put

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<v Speaker 2>a poll out where what do you trust? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>have faith in the courts or do you have faith

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<v Speaker 2>in the police. Sixty nine percent of people said that

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<v Speaker 2>they have faith in the police, thirteen don't an eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>percent don't know, as opposed to thirty percent of people

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<v Speaker 2>who have faith in the court or justice system forty

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<v Speaker 2>seven percent who don't. Because you see, this is the problem,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it. That the crime takes place, the police respond

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<v Speaker 2>to it. The police end up doing the hard work

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<v Speaker 2>of finding, catching, cuffing these people, and then once they

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<v Speaker 2>eventually get to a court, of course, the system instantly

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<v Speaker 2>changes and rather than the victim of the crime being

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<v Speaker 2>at the center of the process and therefore the judgment

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<v Speaker 2>being made about the person who committed the crime against you,

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<v Speaker 2>the system ends up being well, why did you commit

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<v Speaker 2>the crime? What is in your history, what is in

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<v Speaker 2>your past? Okay, you get another chance. Understandably, people remain

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<v Speaker 2>frustrated and furious, and that is why this program is

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<v Speaker 2>pro police. It is pro police because the men and

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<v Speaker 2>women of the police forces of this country run towards

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<v Speaker 2>the situations multiple times every day that the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>us would consider to be some of the worst days

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<v Speaker 2>of our lives. Well, this is what they interact with

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<v Speaker 2>all day, every day. We are endlessly thankful for their

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<v Speaker 2>family sacrifice and for the physical sacrifice that they make

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<v Speaker 2>on the job. Now, of course, you remember the shootings

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<v Speaker 2>which took place in Queensland, where an act of terrorism

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<v Speaker 2>resulted in two police officers being murdered. There is currently

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<v Speaker 2>a coronial inquest into what took place. Constable Randall Kirk

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<v Speaker 2>gave some evidence and I am going to show you

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<v Speaker 2>some footage. That is his bodycam footage of when he

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<v Speaker 2>was running towards his car for protection but then was

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<v Speaker 2>being shot at for his reasons. This footage is deeply,

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<v Speaker 2>deeply distressing. If anyone is easily offended or squirmish, now

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<v Speaker 2>is the time to press mut or maybe blink for

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of seconds.

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<v Speaker 3>But for everyone else who needs a.

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<v Speaker 2>Reminder or or he knows in their heart why the

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<v Speaker 2>police are the best amongst us, have a look at

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<v Speaker 2>what this bloke had to encounter on the same day

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<v Speaker 2>two of his colleagues were murdered. You loved shot. That

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<v Speaker 2>is frightening. That is utterly frightening. Also a great difference

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<v Speaker 2>between what you see on TV. This is what happens

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<v Speaker 2>in reality when somebody starts shooting at you. Now again,

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<v Speaker 2>there's some pretty gruesome and really difficult stuff in and

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<v Speaker 2>around this case, which if you are reading about it,

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<v Speaker 2>I won't be repeating here, but it is frightening. The

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<v Speaker 2>idea that every officer every day gets up with an

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<v Speaker 2>expectation that there is a chance that the could happen

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<v Speaker 2>to them on any one day, being shot at, or

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<v Speaker 2>being injured or worse. Yet they keep turning up, and

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<v Speaker 2>they turn up year after year. Is an incredible credit.

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 2>This show is pro police. Its viewers a pro police.

0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:14.760
<v Speaker 2>The wider community is pro police when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>the courts, not so much. Speaking of Queensland, its a

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<v Speaker 2>hapless premiere, Old Giggles Miles, who of course wasn't laughing

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<v Speaker 2>at all when asked a question about youth crime, because no,

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<v Speaker 2>he definitely wasn't laughing despite if the question.

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<v Speaker 3>Was about youth crime. Remember we've been following this one

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<v Speaker 3>for months.

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<v Speaker 2>We gave you an update on last week, which was

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<v Speaker 2>when he appointed a brand new police commissioner, yet had

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<v Speaker 2>no room on his plane to bring the police commissioner

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<v Speaker 2>to the series of press conferences to show they were

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<v Speaker 2>serious about youth crime, because of course all of his

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<v Speaker 2>staffers and a couple of ringing MPs were there. So

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<v Speaker 2>you ended up with two planes flying from Brisbane in

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<v Speaker 2>and around parts of North Queensland. The title cost one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and seventy thousand dollars Well, after all of this

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:02.199
<v Speaker 2>was finally reveal in a process where they could no

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<v Speaker 2>longer hide it, we followed the bouncy ball of how

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen Miles said, Well, of course this happened because he

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<v Speaker 2>had to find his own way, his own transport, as

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<v Speaker 2>opposed to him simply being able to invite him onto

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<v Speaker 2>the same plane. Well again, he was asked about it

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<v Speaker 2>in Brisbane, and he's a little cranky because this subject

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't go away.

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<v Speaker 10>We've discussed it regularly, We've been over it many many times.

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<v Speaker 10>But I will never apologize for spending time in regional

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<v Speaker 10>Queensland and for making the arrangements that are necessary to

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<v Speaker 10>spend as much time there as I can.

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<v Speaker 2>Queensland place. You've got your chance. We'll see what happens

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<v Speaker 2>in the next little while. All right to Paris right now,

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<v Speaker 2>and well, the main river in Paris is an open

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<v Speaker 2>sewer at the moment for obvious reasons. You can see

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<v Speaker 2>that the river Sin is supposed to be clean. It's not,

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<v Speaker 2>which means triathlon has been put off. Why because, among

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<v Speaker 2>other things, the city of Love, which has got plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of puppies, and plenty of puppies that lead bits of

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<v Speaker 2>themselves behind when the rain flows, that all ends up

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:09.239
<v Speaker 2>while going into the river. The river of course is

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<v Speaker 2>unable to be swimming, so the triathlon has been put off.

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<v Speaker 2>And let me now answer this question which you may

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<v Speaker 2>will have been asking yourself, which is what is going

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<v Speaker 2>on with why they don't hand out flowers like they

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<v Speaker 2>normally do when somebody wins a metal. Instead they get

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<v Speaker 2>this little cardboard tube. Well, the Core email answered this

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<v Speaker 2>one for us today and guess what. It turns out

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<v Speaker 2>that inside the box has rolled up official poster of

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<v Speaker 2>the Paris Olympics. It is mean's reading, about forty centimeters long.

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<v Speaker 2>It features the Eiffel Tower, depictions of several Olympic events,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Olympiad for the thirty third edition of the Games.

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<v Speaker 3>Which I think is awesome, very cool.

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<v Speaker 2>So you'd be able to not maybe have your metal

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<v Speaker 2>out on show, but you'd be able to have a

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<v Speaker 2>poster and everyone goes, how were you an Olympic?

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<v Speaker 9>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>That is why they hand out those things the way

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<v Speaker 2>they currently are. And before we get into the debate tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>and remember Nigel Ferrad joints this for the first time

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<v Speaker 2>in a long time since the UK we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 2>his rise to a position in the Parliament along with

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<v Speaker 2>multiple others with reform, also his closeness with Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>Has he spoken to Trump since he was shot.

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<v Speaker 2>And what does he think about the world of Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 2>We get to him a little later in the show,

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<v Speaker 2>a great debate moments away. But can we just focus

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<v Speaker 2>on some of the cringe around Kamala. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>front page of the New York magazine, super lefty magazine

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<v Speaker 2>read by super lefties.

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<v Speaker 3>But look how overly.

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<v Speaker 2>Excited they all are because she's sitting on top of

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<v Speaker 2>a coconut. I still don't care what that means. And

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's dancing around, including Joe Biden, who of course was

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<v Speaker 2>pushed out of the way for her to become the

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<v Speaker 2>candidate who apparently isn't standing for anything.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you criticize her at all, it's racist.

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<v Speaker 2>And I showed you before the example of again Pete cringe,

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<v Speaker 2>where I know this fires up people that were already

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<v Speaker 2>going to vote against Donald Trump. But how does this

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<v Speaker 2>move anyone who was going to vote for Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>to move over to vote for the Democrats. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but thankfully the limbs of TikTok we're able to find

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<v Speaker 2>this video which is all about being out and.

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<v Speaker 3>Proud for Ms Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't get Bill's past encoundress that I'll protect.

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<v Speaker 2>Me and you wait, Latin of Asia not lgbt Q.

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<v Speaker 3>She can get this country back to where we can stand.

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<v Speaker 11>Keep men as.

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<v Speaker 2>From home without well, yeah, that'll win it more in

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<v Speaker 2>a sick you're on, Paulhoe, you live, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>send me an email, Paul, Let's go news dot com

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<v Speaker 2>dot au.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much for watching Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>Hilda Brand carry out a champions always here each and

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<v Speaker 2>every week with us. His podcast available through the Nova

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<v Speaker 2>Player called again My.

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<v Speaker 12>Man, The Real Story, The Real Story Brand, And one

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<v Speaker 12>week It's going to be the Real Story with Joe Hilderbrand,

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<v Speaker 12>Paul Murray or get you on Excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on our wish list.

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<v Speaker 3>Towards the bottom, but still there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be there.

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<v Speaker 2>Emily Die of course, with the Center of Independent Studies,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get into a great reporter. I was

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<v Speaker 2>reading of herst today, which was a massive survey of

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<v Speaker 2>people and their attitudes about companies that go super woke.

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<v Speaker 3>Surprisingly, it doesn't go well for the superwork company.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to this in a second, let's go to

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<v Speaker 2>where I started with this essential poll showing that neither

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<v Speaker 2>the Labor Party or the Liberal Party is actually in

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<v Speaker 2>front when it comes to the battle for the workers. Now, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the Labor Party on some is doing better and the

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<v Speaker 2>Liberal Party is doing better on parties doing really well,

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<v Speaker 2>but do not show and that is that is really interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it about what we talk about about some supposedly

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<v Speaker 2>big changes that are happening globally right. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that was getting behind a Nigel Farage again a

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<v Speaker 2>certain level of the working class getting in behind him.

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<v Speaker 3>We certainly know that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been part of the coalition, and we know that

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<v Speaker 2>obviously the Liberal Party would suggest that that's one of

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<v Speaker 2>their hopes to have a path back. But if that

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<v Speaker 2>many people this light in the cycle of telling us

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<v Speaker 2>that they're not sure, then I think that's just pretty

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<v Speaker 2>fertile ground for the far left in the Greens or

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<v Speaker 2>some populist parties on the right.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you reckon them?

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<v Speaker 9>We?

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<v Speaker 11>I mean possibly.

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<v Speaker 13>I was looking at the breakdowns that was in that data,

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<v Speaker 13>and one of the things that struck me is the

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<v Speaker 13>fact that the younger generations tend to still be a

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<v Speaker 13>little bit more left wing. They're a little bit more

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<v Speaker 13>confident in the Labor Party, which actually surprised me because

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<v Speaker 13>I think that young people tend to like smaller parties

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<v Speaker 13>and be more into the Greens, more into the Independence.

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<v Speaker 11>But they did have a.

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<v Speaker 13>Little bit more confidence, and I did also notice that

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<v Speaker 13>the Greens were very much not confident. The only group

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<v Speaker 13>that was particularly keen on the Labor Party when it

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<v Speaker 13>came to labor issues were Labor Party voters.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, Joe, what does this tell you about how

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<v Speaker 2>the government has prosecuted its first two years.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, look, it is really obviously it's the sort of

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<v Speaker 12>thing that I've been banging on about for years, as

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<v Speaker 12>many people in the Labor many sensible heads in the

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<v Speaker 12>Labor Party, especially the New South Wales right of the

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<v Speaker 12>Labor Party, have been banging on about for years. There

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<v Speaker 12>is a disconnect that basically began with the Whitlam years

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<v Speaker 12>between you know, inner city tertiary educated university graduates who

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<v Speaker 12>are obsessed with ideology and then things like you know,

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<v Speaker 12>environmentalism and you know, improving the worker by applying a

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<v Speaker 12>kind of you know, socialist orthodoxy down on them rather

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<v Speaker 12>than actually listening to what they want and giving it

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<v Speaker 12>to them.

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<v Speaker 1>And and hereing lies the problem.

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<v Speaker 12>This is why the Greens obviously do not resonate with

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<v Speaker 12>working people, because they never met any of them. But

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<v Speaker 12>it also means that whenever labor is focused on things

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<v Speaker 12>that seem remotely ideological or remotely linked to identity politics,

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<v Speaker 12>it goes really really badly for them. So again the

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<v Speaker 12>Voice referendum, which I was a big supporter of, but

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<v Speaker 12>in the middle of a cost of living crisis, it

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<v Speaker 12>was just the worst possible thing to be focused on,

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<v Speaker 12>and the government sort of to its credit, quickly realized that,

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<v Speaker 12>but it was so sort of branded with it, it was

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<v Speaker 12>too late to change tack. We've already seen, I believe

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<v Speaker 12>a mark. There was a pile around a few months

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<v Speaker 12>ago that showed that blue collar among blue collar workers,

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<v Speaker 12>they actually prefer the Coalition.

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<v Speaker 2>In April, well literally last weekend, there was one showing

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<v Speaker 2>that it didn't matter where you were on the income

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<v Speaker 2>scale or where you were on the home ownership scale.

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<v Speaker 2>That was leaning Dutton's way right now, And this information

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<v Speaker 2>again it steps back a bit more to the neutral territory.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm fascinated in and around all of this again, Emily,

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<v Speaker 2>because one of the things that the Liberal Party, in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of what it has said in the past or

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<v Speaker 2>what has assumed about it in the past is and

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<v Speaker 2>I think one of the moments when you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>certainly look back at as always when you go, well

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<v Speaker 2>did I have the right take on this or the

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<v Speaker 2>right take on that? One of the things that Albanezi

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<v Speaker 2>and again we all know, I don't know a thing

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty effective at during the election campaign was talking

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<v Speaker 2>about that minimum wage rise and holding up the coin

0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 2>and all the rest of it. Right, I think that

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<v Speaker 2>center right of politics has to start getting more vocally

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<v Speaker 2>behind wage rises rather than just falling behind the sort

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<v Speaker 2>of general pattern of big business, which.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the sky is going to fall in.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's difficult for small business. It's always difficult for small business.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think politically, if you want to start to

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<v Speaker 2>eat into that group, and there's obviously a fair amount

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:28.359
<v Speaker 2>of people, then the next time one of these things

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<v Speaker 2>come up, you go, hell yeah, bring it on, bring

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<v Speaker 2>on the wage rise.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, am I wrong in this idea? You're a rug?

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<v Speaker 13>I mean, I controversial opinion. I actually don't think the

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<v Speaker 13>minimum wage is that important either way, and that the

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<v Speaker 13>economy be controversial.

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<v Speaker 11>That's what it would be good to be focusing on

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<v Speaker 11>that inflation and the taxis situation and trying to figure

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<v Speaker 11>out ways to come from a more center right position

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<v Speaker 11>and provide really pleactical solutions to your master.

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<v Speaker 2>Living interesting piece again in the Turmbul Times, forgive me

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<v Speaker 2>mentioning them as often as I am this evening. It's

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<v Speaker 2>my se so you don't have to in between the

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<v Speaker 2>constant being for donations. But anyway, data good story today,

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<v Speaker 2>which was a bunch of academics have come forward under

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<v Speaker 2>the cloak of anonymity to tell us what we've kind

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:13.400
<v Speaker 2>of already known, which is there's a significant number of

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:16.640
<v Speaker 2>people that are getting through the university system whose basic

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:18.920
<v Speaker 2>knowledge of English is pretty poor. And I'm not just

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<v Speaker 2>talking about sort of you know, kids that don't really

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 2>know what they're doing that are from here, but the

0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:26.960
<v Speaker 2>overseas student who doesn't have a grasp of the language. Joe,

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 2>how do we marry the two Because I always think,

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<v Speaker 2>sort of, again, I understand the size of the industry,

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<v Speaker 2>the purpose of the industry, the need for better education,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think that we've tipped way past this point

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<v Speaker 2>of no return when the tax payer will guarantee as

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 2>many butts as you can get in seats will pay

0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:48.400
<v Speaker 2>up front and anything else you can top up with

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:51.320
<v Speaker 2>whoever can pay for it, as opposed to the roller

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 2>coaster where you must be this smart to ride.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, it's a really tricky by as one that divides

0:35:56.840 --> 0:36:00.839
<v Speaker 12>universities as well. So the really kind of elite kind

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:04.320
<v Speaker 12>of you know, Bluestone and Sandstone universities, the group of a.

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<v Speaker 12>They love international students because they've got a great reputation overseas,

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:10.759
<v Speaker 12>they've got a huge amount of prestige, and they get

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<v Speaker 12>a huge amount of their money from international students, and

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<v Speaker 12>in sense is a really really good thing because it

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:19.840
<v Speaker 12>means they're basically milking that sky whale in which everybody

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:22.800
<v Speaker 12>camera I'd understand, and they can they're not rely on

0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 12>the tax payer and they can also use those funds

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<v Speaker 12>for research and that sort of stuff. The problem is

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<v Speaker 12>when you have smaller universities like say Western sinde, the

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:32.799
<v Speaker 12>UNI or Wollongong or whatever are great unis, but they

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 12>cannot attract that kind of investment from overseas. But of

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<v Speaker 12>course the other thing that happens is when once you

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<v Speaker 12>have a sort of you know, pay as you go

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<v Speaker 12>kind of education system where people from you know, Asia

0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 12>for example, are paying huge amounts of money to send

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<v Speaker 12>their kids to safe in the university. Well, you want

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<v Speaker 12>bang for your buck, don't you want? They have to

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<v Speaker 12>come back with a degree. And so if they're going

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<v Speaker 12>to come back with a degree, then you have to

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<v Speaker 12>make sure that the language component of.

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<v Speaker 1>That degree isn't to own us.

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<v Speaker 12>That it's prohibitive for them. And that means that when

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<v Speaker 12>they're in a classroom environment or environment with other students

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<v Speaker 12>often and I heard this, I've heard this anecdotally for

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<v Speaker 12>I think decades now, since almost when I was at UNI,

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<v Speaker 12>that the teaching level of the classroom is as always,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, reduced to the person sort of who can

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<v Speaker 12>understand the least, and that.

0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:21.360
<v Speaker 1>That is the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, you know, Emily, is that I get all

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 2>of the business model, but again, doesn't there have to

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<v Speaker 2>be this trade off where you have to know that

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<v Speaker 2>somebody has a certain series of as they would, not

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<v Speaker 2>just financial but intellectual and English competency to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to do the course rather than just thanks for the cash.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, fill out the forms. We'll get back to

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<v Speaker 2>you in two years with you know, something with a

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<v Speaker 2>little stamp on it.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, well you were saying, butts in seats. I don't

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<v Speaker 11>even know if the butts are in the seats.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of these kids fingers on computers.

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<v Speaker 11>It's on computers. They're not even going to class.

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<v Speaker 13>They recently ordered it age, you said, and it was shocking,

0:37:56.719 --> 0:37:59.359
<v Speaker 13>like these students aren't participating. They don't understand the lecture

0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 13>of the lecture with very good like great professor, great

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 13>content from and yet these students they're not participating, they

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:09.319
<v Speaker 13>can't really understand. They're just going to go look at

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<v Speaker 13>the recording later and have it translated for them. And

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 13>it's really decreasing the value of this education for Australian students,

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<v Speaker 13>for all the students across the board, anyone who's going

0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 13>to university to genuinely learn is missing out. So I

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:26.400
<v Speaker 13>think the only real solution is to introduce more competition, because,

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:29.200
<v Speaker 13>like you were saying with the business case, the incentives

0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:29.759
<v Speaker 13>are all wrong.

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<v Speaker 11>It's the fourth largest export in Australia. Education the education

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 11>is a bit.

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<v Speaker 3>But then also we sort of you have any change

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<v Speaker 3>to this system.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're trying to stop you poor kids from No,

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 2>it's all just about. You can be the poorest kid

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:45.759
<v Speaker 2>in the poorest street, in the poorest suburb. If you're

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 2>smart enough to get into the course, you can do

0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:50.160
<v Speaker 2>the course right. But currently it's just are you willing

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 2>to turn up after we've offered it to every and

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:54.879
<v Speaker 2>anyone else? Because the taxpayer will pay upfront and until

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:56.520
<v Speaker 2>you win what the best part of fifty and afit

0:38:56.560 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars you know to pay anything back. Let's talk

0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:01.040
<v Speaker 2>about the Center of Independent Studies. Great report that you did,

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:03.720
<v Speaker 2>which was a survey of two and a half thousand people.

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 2>That's more than the Newspolen numbers. So if the news

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:09.080
<v Speaker 2>poll numbers statistically accurate enough for us to sack prime ministers,

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:12.800
<v Speaker 2>then you're close to gospel here. What did you find

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<v Speaker 2>about Australian's attitudes towards companies When they get woke and

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 2>they start talking about lifestyle not their actual product.

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<v Speaker 11>They're not a fan.

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<v Speaker 13>Just across the board, Australians do not support this kind

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<v Speaker 13>of esg. Corporate activism, social activism. It's coming out of

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 13>these businesses, things like the Voice referendum and Quantus really

0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:34.880
<v Speaker 13>getting on board. We asked what people thought was the

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:37.879
<v Speaker 13>role of business, and seventy two percent said business should

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:42.399
<v Speaker 13>stick to protiviting good service to customers, good returns to shareholders,

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:45.239
<v Speaker 13>and stay out of politics and stay out of contentious

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:46.720
<v Speaker 13>issues and not get involved.

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<v Speaker 2>So it feels that, again my sense was a little

0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Bogan Spody senses here is that one of the ways

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<v Speaker 2>that the left has been able to make particular moves

0:39:57.000 --> 0:40:01.319
<v Speaker 2>in the past ten years is that win work right.

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:04.759
<v Speaker 2>The big business changed right. So you remember you sort

0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:06.400
<v Speaker 2>of think about the United States as sort of an

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 2>example of things. Oh, you know, big oil and big

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 2>finance and all of these things are fighting against us

0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:12.520
<v Speaker 2>the man as we're trying to fight for a bit

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:14.319
<v Speaker 2>of system. Well now, of course, for a whole bunch

0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:16.799
<v Speaker 2>of reasons, all of these companies have sort of got

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:20.359
<v Speaker 2>little machines inside them that are saying, it's great that

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 2>we make microphones, but what are we doing about climate change?

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<v Speaker 2>What surprised you, either positively or negatively about people's attitudes.

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<v Speaker 13>I think the thing that surprised me the most was

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<v Speaker 13>just how little people are actually paying attention. So we

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<v Speaker 13>asked people that were working for these big companies, how

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<v Speaker 13>are where are they? And only fifteen percent that they

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<v Speaker 13>closely followed the activism at their own companies. Wow, around

0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 13>sixty percent didn't know anything about what was going on.

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 13>They weren't paying attention, They had no idea, nor did

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 13>they care. And I think that's really telling that the

0:40:55.000 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 13>people that are the closest to these companies are the

0:40:58.320 --> 0:40:59.080
<v Speaker 13>least engaged.

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:01.759
<v Speaker 2>But also of but I always find a bit odd, Joe,

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:05.319
<v Speaker 2>is when companies decide, whatever this is, this is the.

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:07.239
<v Speaker 3>Thing they're going to focus on. Remember when there was.

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:12.839
<v Speaker 2>Like pink caps on bottles of water for about five years. Well,

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:16.360
<v Speaker 2>breast cancer existed before and it now exists after. So

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:19.160
<v Speaker 2>there's that sort of activism. But then there's the other

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:22.400
<v Speaker 2>type of activism, which is far more political.

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:25.880
<v Speaker 12>It actually ties very much to what we were talking

0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:29.239
<v Speaker 12>about before, and this is that it's nothing to do

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:31.480
<v Speaker 12>with the cause. It is all about the company. It

0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:36.399
<v Speaker 12>is all about the company's brand value and it's brand,

0:41:36.480 --> 0:41:38.439
<v Speaker 12>how it wants to position itself and how it wants

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:40.799
<v Speaker 12>people to see it, not about how much it can

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<v Speaker 12>do for any of the trip or bottom line.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 12>I promise you they don't care, because if they did,

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:49.080
<v Speaker 12>they'd shut up about it because they tend to harm

0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:53.160
<v Speaker 12>the causes they talk about, and because people react instinctively,

0:41:53.200 --> 0:41:54.880
<v Speaker 12>they say, well, don't you don't get to tell me

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:57.040
<v Speaker 12>what to do. Even if I agree with what you're saying,

0:41:57.200 --> 0:41:58.880
<v Speaker 12>I don't want to hear it. And also, if a

0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 12>company is telling you how to be a better person,

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:02.840
<v Speaker 12>or be a better employee, or be a better citizen,

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:05.920
<v Speaker 12>that robs you of a huge amount of the reason

0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:07.640
<v Speaker 12>why you would do that, because you want to think

0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:09.880
<v Speaker 12>that you are taking these positions out of the goodness

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 12>of your heart, because you're a smart person, or a

0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 12>kind person or a well informed person, not because your

0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 12>boss has told you that you better do this or.

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<v Speaker 1>This is bad.

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<v Speaker 12>And with the Voice stuff, I actually spoke to a

0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:23.360
<v Speaker 12>really really senior stratus was brought in to try to

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:25.520
<v Speaker 12>fix the mess too late unfortunately. I said, you have

0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:29.160
<v Speaker 12>got to stop solicit quotas bought tell them and he said,

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:31.960
<v Speaker 12>it's terrible. We don't want them. They're banging our door

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:34.760
<v Speaker 12>down and we can't say no. So the company's trying

0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:36.279
<v Speaker 12>to support the Voice for actually.

0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:38.000
<v Speaker 1>And in many ways they do it to avoid.

0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:40.520
<v Speaker 3>The internet mob turning on them and them having to

0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:42.880
<v Speaker 3>deal with all of that for the particular days. But Anyway,

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 3>that's check for another time.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you guys to appreciate it. We'll see you again

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:48.360
<v Speaker 2>next week. All right, quick break. Niger Farage back on

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 2>Aussie Telly, but as an MP and with plenty to

0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:59.520
<v Speaker 2>say about the UK and US politics. Mortency like the

0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:01.719
<v Speaker 2>world is completely different than the last time we had

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:04.879
<v Speaker 2>the chance to talk to Nigel Farage. Including he's an MP,

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Biden's gone, Harris is in, Trump's the same somebody took

0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:10.319
<v Speaker 2>a shot at him. So good to see you joining

0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:11.640
<v Speaker 2>us now for the first time in a long time

0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:14.279
<v Speaker 2>from London, Nigel. We'll get to the UK stuff at

0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:17.759
<v Speaker 2>a second, but most importantly, congratulations. I watched so many

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 2>of your rallies on YouTube. I watched what you did

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 2>the Happy Warrior was was so invigorating to see congratulations.

0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 3>On what you and Reform were able to achieve.

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<v Speaker 14>Mat No, well, thank you, and I'm sorry I've been

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:32.319
<v Speaker 14>away for so long, but I have been, as you say,

0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:35.880
<v Speaker 14>rather busy one way and t other. The happy Warrior

0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:39.320
<v Speaker 14>line is very interesting. You know, the modern liberal left

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:43.799
<v Speaker 14>are oh so sincere about absolutely everything. I don't think

0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:45.839
<v Speaker 14>anyone should tell a joke of any kind of tool.

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:49.400
<v Speaker 14>If they do they might get canceled. And then so

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:52.960
<v Speaker 14>many of the conservative movement across the Western world.

0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Are just a bit dull as well.

0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 14>So you know, if we can inject a bit of life,

0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:00.680
<v Speaker 14>a bit of comedy, a bit of fun in what

0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:02.960
<v Speaker 14>we do, well, isn't that what ordinary folk do when

0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:05.000
<v Speaker 14>they live their lives. Yeah, we believe in what we

0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:07.719
<v Speaker 14>believe in. So yeah, I would love to be thought

0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:08.720
<v Speaker 14>of as a happy warrior.

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I always have been, and you know what, I always

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:11.279
<v Speaker 1>will be.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, And honestly, I was watching this and I was

0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:18.360
<v Speaker 2>just like sending copies of this to people in austrating politics,

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 2>just saying, this is the type of presentation that you

0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:22.319
<v Speaker 2>have to have, right. There's lots of serious there's lots

0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 2>of edge, there's lots of realism about the polls, debates,

0:44:25.080 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 2>all the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I loved it. Now I'm going to ask about Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you spoken to him since the assassination attimpt?

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, briefly, but more importantly, I've spoken to the family

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<v Speaker 14>at some considerable length. I cannot tell you how incandescent

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<v Speaker 14>with fury they are at what happened. How the hell

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<v Speaker 14>does somebody with a high velocity rifle get onto a

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<v Speaker 14>sloping roof just one hundred and twenty meters away from

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<v Speaker 14>where Trump is speaking. Has that ever been allowed to happen?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 14>Without getting deep into deep state conspiracy theory, what I

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<v Speaker 14>think we can say is the woman that was appointed

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<v Speaker 14>head of the Secret Service was put there as a

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<v Speaker 14>woman who'd worked at a big corporate company, PepsiCo, in

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<v Speaker 14>charge of their security. It looks very like a modern

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<v Speaker 14>day diversity and inclusion job that it does given to

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<v Speaker 14>somebody on merit, and it very nearly got Trump killed.

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<v Speaker 14>I didn't used to believe in miracles, Paul, but after

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<v Speaker 14>what happened on that day, I think now I do.

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<v Speaker 3>And that image of him holding up and fight.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that we're living at this breakneck speed, but

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<v Speaker 2>that is an image that will live forever. And the

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<v Speaker 2>idea that he didn't know what had happened, and we

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<v Speaker 2>all know that adrenaline means you may not know where

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<v Speaker 2>you've been hit and how long you've been hit. That

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<v Speaker 2>could have been his final moments and for him to

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<v Speaker 2>instinctively show fight, that was the moment when like even

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<v Speaker 2>sort of never Trump. The rities that I know in

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<v Speaker 2>Australia went, you know what, that's literal courage under fire.

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<v Speaker 3>And now I'm all in, yeah.

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<v Speaker 14>I mean, you can never tell how any of us

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<v Speaker 14>would react. You know, we've been drafted into the army,

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<v Speaker 14>We're told to go over the top, whatever it may be.

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<v Speaker 14>You never know how anyone's going to react until they're

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<v Speaker 14>actually there. What he showed in that moment was the

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<v Speaker 14>man that I know. I said on stage in a

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<v Speaker 14>twenty twenty presidential election in Phoenix, I said, and I

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<v Speaker 14>pointed a Trump, and I said, this is the bravest

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<v Speaker 14>man that I've ever met. And my goodness meet, didn't

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<v Speaker 14>he prove it that day in Pennsylvania. Totally extraordinary. One

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<v Speaker 14>things of the historic Iwergema image of them raising the

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<v Speaker 14>flag after this tens of thousands of Americans died fighting

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<v Speaker 14>the Japanese and as a statue in DC of the

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<v Speaker 14>iwer Gema moment, but that was actually staged for a photographer.

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<v Speaker 14>Trump doing that and saying fight, that was him. It

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<v Speaker 14>tells you who he may not be perfect, but my

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<v Speaker 14>goodness me, he's got the courage of a lion. And

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<v Speaker 14>right now, with the threats we face, be it from

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<v Speaker 14>Russia or China or perhaps the most serious of all, Iran,

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<v Speaker 14>what the Western world needs is a strong, brave leader.

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<v Speaker 14>Peace only comes through strength, not weakness.

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<v Speaker 3>So how does he take on Harris?

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<v Speaker 2>Because Harris is in this media bubble where she's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to be asked a tough question. It will be

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<v Speaker 2>the debate where when we'll all find out, how does

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<v Speaker 2>he take her on when the media won't even let

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<v Speaker 2>his attacks begin?

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, I mean, look, you know she's now the darling

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<v Speaker 14>of the media.

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<v Speaker 1>That was entirely predictable.

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<v Speaker 14>Corporate money is flowing in again, what would you expect

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<v Speaker 14>mainstream media not giving Trump but an even break.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hey, what's changed?

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<v Speaker 14>I mean it was the same way against Hillary. Nothing's

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<v Speaker 14>really changed at all. We're just back to normal really

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<v Speaker 14>because ultimately Biden had to go, and I mean, frankly,

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<v Speaker 14>shame on Kamala Harris and others for lying to the

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<v Speaker 14>American people by saying that their president was competent and

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<v Speaker 14>up to the job when very clearly he hadn't been

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<v Speaker 14>for a considerable period of time. It's a funny thing,

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<v Speaker 14>you know, if you're a strong, alpha male figure, if

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<v Speaker 14>you're seen to to overtly attack a woman, it just

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<v Speaker 14>doesn't look or feel right. So the trum campaign need

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<v Speaker 14>to think about how they do that. However, they will

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<v Speaker 14>be helped because every single potential banana skin that's on

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<v Speaker 14>the floor between now and November the fifth, don't worry

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<v Speaker 14>Harris will tread on it. She is a very, very

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<v Speaker 14>poor candidate. She got nowhere in the primaries in her

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<v Speaker 14>own party when she ran, you know, for the presidential nomination,

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<v Speaker 14>and when Biden got it and talk about DEI as

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<v Speaker 14>I mentioned earlier with the head of the Secret Service,

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<v Speaker 14>I mean Biden said I'm going to pick a black

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<v Speaker 14>woman to be the vice presidential running mate, as if

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<v Speaker 14>to say ability no longer matters. We just pick someone

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<v Speaker 14>because we're ticking boxes. Honestly, I think under fire she'll

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<v Speaker 14>make terrible mistakes. We'll hear that sort of hyena like

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<v Speaker 14>nervous laugh that she does.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think this is difficult.

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<v Speaker 14>And you know, even if the love is on the

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<v Speaker 14>on the coasts, think she's wonderful. Remember this, The presidential

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<v Speaker 14>election will be one or last in the Midwest, the

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<v Speaker 14>old industrial States. That is why jd Vance right, That

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<v Speaker 14>is why the working class boy from Ohio who wrote

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<v Speaker 14>Hill Billy Ellergy, that is why he's been picked as

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<v Speaker 14>the vice presidential candidate.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not Paul concerned at all. Well, we will

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<v Speaker 2>dig into all of that next week. I'm overtime, but

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for the check. I do appreciate it. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>to Nigel again next week. The Late Debate is next