Speaker 1: From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Sharry. We look forward to seeing you again
Speaker 2: same time tomorrow night. Now, by this time tomorrow night,
Speaker 2: we're gonna know whether we're about to get another the.
Speaker 3: Interest rateive Lise, this is so close where.
Speaker 2: We know the Reserve Bank basically needs to be talked
Speaker 2: out of it because last month they were going to
Speaker 2: do it. We'll tell you the information that'll go into
Speaker 2: the machine and see what happens by this time tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Like everyone else who's watching the games every now and then,
Speaker 2: why aren't they handing out flowers instead they're handing out
Speaker 2: a box?
Speaker 3: What's in the box?
Speaker 2: Nigel Farag back on the show. The only place you'll
Speaker 2: see him and Assi Telly he is in the UK Parliament,
Speaker 2: but he'll be back here on Paul Murray Live tonight
Speaker 2: and whatever the hell this is?
Speaker 1: Okaylly, hellway.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: In the meantime, though, there is a spectacular reason to
Speaker 2: go outside if you're in the southern parts of the country.
Speaker 3: Well, the phenomenon which.
Speaker 2: Was around in May, which is Aurora Estrallas, which just
Speaker 2: produced some of the most spectacular scenery in the skies. Well,
Speaker 2: it's had another run another version of it. These were
Speaker 2: some photos from the very south of the country that
Speaker 2: came in yesterday, and experts are telling us that there
Speaker 2: is another chance to do it and to have a
Speaker 2: look at it tonight.
Speaker 3: Apparently the best places, of course Surprise, Surprise.
Speaker 2: Tasmania and maybe up even into some parts of Victoria.
Speaker 3: But what are we talking about here and why? Is
Speaker 3: this phenomena one that's worthy of Instagram for everyone. If
Speaker 3: you can get a.
Speaker 4: Photo, Victorians can treat themselves to another spectacular aurora this evening,
Speaker 4: just two months after a massive view of magnetic storm
Speaker 4: lit up the sky across the state. Experts are predicting.
Speaker 1: Another one tonight.
Speaker 4: It's a treat for those who missed out on the
Speaker 4: last one, But meteorologists say this one won't quite be
Speaker 4: as big. Auroras are caused by particles in the atmosphere colliding,
Speaker 4: the different colors.
Speaker 3: Depending on the types of atoms.
Speaker 4: They're typically seen at the poles, requiring major environmental phenomena
Speaker 4: like geomagnetic storms to bring them as far north as Australia.
Speaker 3: I knew all that.
Speaker 2: I like started the show with pretty pictures. Now let's
Speaker 2: get to some ugly news. That is around today. Cost
Speaker 2: of living number one issue in the country when it
Speaker 2: comes to politics, but more importantly, the number one issue
Speaker 2: for households. No matter what type of household.
Speaker 3: That you're in.
Speaker 2: If you live by yourself, a few live with the
Speaker 2: same person you have for decades, if you just moved
Speaker 2: in with somebody.
Speaker 3: You get the point.
Speaker 2: Kids, no kids, grandkids, All of it matters. All of
Speaker 2: it is costing so much money.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: The Reserve Bank, well, it has one indication indicator about
Speaker 2: whether it does or doesn't raise interest rates, and that
Speaker 2: is inflation between two and three percent. Tomorrow we get
Speaker 2: the final bit of data that we have been building
Speaker 2: to for the past couple of months, and it will
Speaker 2: be the inflation data that will tell us whether we
Speaker 2: are getting closer to two to three percent or we
Speaker 2: are getting further away from two to three percent. Now,
Speaker 2: to give you an idea of how they work out,
Speaker 2: which things in the economy that are costing more or
Speaker 2: slightly less put into a thing.
Speaker 3: Called the basket of goods.
Speaker 2: Now, these can be all sorts of things, from the
Speaker 2: things that you buy at the shops to what you
Speaker 2: do when it comes to filling.
Speaker 3: Your car or filling your belly.
Speaker 2: But let's just go back to a sort of a
Speaker 2: bit of a high school economics lesson here for everyone,
Speaker 2: what do they put into the quote unquote basket of
Speaker 2: goods to decide whether inflation is going up or down?
Speaker 2: Now there's a whole bunch of them, but the key
Speaker 2: ones are alcohol and tobacco. Now, apart from the basic
Speaker 2: cost of this, remember, tax is a big part of
Speaker 2: this as well. So inevitably when taxes go up, as
Speaker 2: does the inflation number.
Speaker 3: Well, petrol, how often do we talk about that?
Speaker 2: And again, barely under two dollars no matter where you
Speaker 2: happen to go in the country, bread and cereal products,
Speaker 2: what we wear, the power to power our homes, and
Speaker 2: we know that that keeps going up every time we
Speaker 2: get a new update from people, because the system has
Speaker 2: not fully transitioned, and the cost of transitioning is of
Speaker 2: course billions billions of dollars. Also, the rest of the
Speaker 2: stuff that you buy from asus market, including non alcoholic beverages,
Speaker 2: those are part of what the Reserve Bank looks at
Speaker 2: each and every month to decide whether or not the
Speaker 2: economy needs to be slowed because of inflation. Of course,
Speaker 2: per capita recession we're in right now, so effectively Australians
Speaker 2: are in recession.
Speaker 3: But the lagging.
Speaker 2: Indicator here of inflation still remains too high. They only
Speaker 2: have one option. You put them up where you put
Speaker 2: them down. Furnishing's household equipment and services again, clothing, housing,
Speaker 2: and an area that does not get enough attention, and
Speaker 2: that is the increase in insurance.
Speaker 3: Now your car, boat, home, all the rest of it.
Speaker 2: All of those insurance premiums keep going up now for
Speaker 2: a whole collection of different reasons. But nobody's insurance is
Speaker 2: worth less or they're sending you a bill that's less
Speaker 2: than this time last year. So that, along with a
Speaker 2: whole collection of other things what they double check compared
Speaker 2: to this time last year. Also month on month, the
Speaker 2: picture has been building were remember you've got to be
Speaker 2: between two and three percent, and the Reserve Bank will
Speaker 2: keep interest rates until the inflation number gets down between
Speaker 2: two and three percent.
Speaker 3: Will bugger what the consequences are now?
Speaker 2: Of course the government would be desperately hoping that there
Speaker 2: is no change. It helps their political fortunes, but the
Speaker 2: reality of where we are heading is that inflation, as
Speaker 2: you can see last quarter was three point four percent
Speaker 2: and then went up to three point six percent in
Speaker 2: the first of the three months that are counted. It
Speaker 2: then hit four percent in June. So the number has
Speaker 2: to be kind of mid three point five or even
Speaker 2: lower for the number to end up kind of near
Speaker 2: where January was. But remember the numbers that they had
Speaker 2: in and around January is what fed into their decisions.
Speaker 2: Where we were told openly by the Reserve Bank that
Speaker 2: at their last meeting they had no conversation about dropping
Speaker 2: them and there was kind of a fifty to fifty
Speaker 2: conversation about holding which is what they did or increasing.
Speaker 2: Now this has serious consequences because for anyone who was
Speaker 2: trying to pay off a home or pay off an
Speaker 2: investment property that somebody is renting in these are very
Speaker 2: serious times. No matter where I go in the country,
Speaker 2: be it for our town or just out and about
Speaker 2: in normal life, this is the number one concern. So
Speaker 2: what's the expectations of those who know the numbers way
Speaker 2: better than me. Fation has not only stopped falling, and
Speaker 2: as a round four, it might even be picking up
Speaker 2: this year, and of course if that's the case, then
Speaker 2: we are in a world of trouble. But why does
Speaker 2: this become a central political issue, because remember Jim Chalmers
Speaker 2: told us that his budget that spent billions of dollars
Speaker 2: on tax cuts, which, of course, in terms of the
Speaker 2: reality of how they were accepted by Australians was too little,
Speaker 2: too late. Remember there was a cost living crisis last
Speaker 2: year and they pulled fifteen hundred dollars away from you
Speaker 2: as an automatic tax return. And then they think fourteen
Speaker 2: dollars a week for people on the lowest part of
Speaker 2: the income scar would be enough to change the world.
Speaker 2: Of course it is not. And they told us that
Speaker 2: the budget would in fact fight inflation. But if inflation
Speaker 2: has continued to go up since the budget, and if
Speaker 2: this overall month by month picture is reflected in the
Speaker 2: quarterly picture, which is the three most recent months bunched together, well,
Speaker 2: then the Reserve Bank, who seem to be so close
Speaker 2: last time to increasing interest rates, would most likely interest
Speaker 2: will most likely increase them. If that's the case, political
Speaker 2: disaster for the Labor Party, so they are trying to
Speaker 2: will nothing to be.
Speaker 5: Inflation in this country has moderated substantially from its peaks
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty two. We expect inflation in tomorrow's CPI
Speaker 5: numbers to be more persistent than we would like. We've
Speaker 5: said that earlier in the week. Inflation has come off substantially,
Speaker 5: but we need it to moderate further and faster. We're
Speaker 5: confident that it will moderate further, but in the numbers tomorrow,
Speaker 5: we're expecting inflation to be pretty persistent.
Speaker 2: The numb one issue in the US presidential election is,
Speaker 2: among other things, inflation. Their inflation rate is lower than ours.
Speaker 2: It'll be one of the big reasons why there may
Speaker 2: well be a change of government in November, regardless of
Speaker 2: who the Democrats have as their candidate. One of the
Speaker 2: major reasons why there's a change of government in the
Speaker 2: UK again was the cost of living and inflation. Their
Speaker 2: rate of inflation is lower than it is here in Australia.
Speaker 2: Appoint the Liberal Party, while not wanting bad economic results,
Speaker 2: knows they would be a political beneficiary should there be
Speaker 2: an interest rate rise.
Speaker 3: That's just the reality.
Speaker 6: Bring inflation under control by using their fiscal reins, bring
Speaker 6: those energy prices back down, make sure that they're spending
Speaker 6: is under control. Sending the right signals to the market
Speaker 6: so that the RBA doesn't have to keep raising interest rates.
Speaker 2: As you know, this is a TV show that doesn't
Speaker 2: just send the weather man to regional Australia. We go
Speaker 2: each and every month when it comes to our town
Speaker 2: thanks to our very good friends at Harvey Norman, so
Speaker 2: we are acutely aware of what it is like to
Speaker 2: travel around the country, not just what the concerns are
Speaker 2: outside of the major cities.
Speaker 3: And without doubt, one of.
Speaker 2: The biggest concerns for people who live outside of the
Speaker 2: major cities is how it is to be able to
Speaker 2: fly from regional centers back to major capital cities. Now,
Speaker 2: the reality of why you would have to do that
Speaker 2: is pretty obvious. There are more cancer experts in the
Speaker 2: capital cities, there are more health experts. There are a
Speaker 2: whole collection of people like engineers or lawyers or you
Speaker 2: name it, who might be the people who you need
Speaker 2: to interact with, who aren't going to company you, so
Speaker 2: you have to go to them, Which is why the
Speaker 2: potential problems for Rex Airlines is a huge issue right now.
Speaker 2: I was listening to Robie Catter, the great MP from
Speaker 2: North Queensland based in and around Mount Eyes, on the
Speaker 2: radio today and he is frightened if REX does somehow
Speaker 2: collapse or ends up cutting back on its services. The
Speaker 2: number of places that it will be servicing, of course,
Speaker 2: starts to fall off the map, and other airlines don't service.
Speaker 3: Some of these areas.
Speaker 2: So if we have a look at the service map
Speaker 2: that REX has got up on its website right now,
Speaker 2: you can see that the red and the orange is
Speaker 2: the stuff that is exclusively paid for by Red. The
Speaker 2: rest of these little areas or they are subsidized in
Speaker 2: part by the state or federal government. But reality is,
Speaker 2: you want to get from Brucebane to Mount iSER, most
Speaker 2: likely REX is going to be part of the picture.
Speaker 2: If you want to make your way again from parts
Speaker 2: of Tasmania to Melbourne or maybe even over to Perth,
Speaker 2: REX is part of the picture. So it's scary today
Speaker 2: when REX decided that it was going to halt its
Speaker 2: seven thirty seven flight booking systems. Now they will still
Speaker 2: be up in the air I understand from tomorrow, so
Speaker 2: if you've got a ticket, they will be honoring the ticket.
Speaker 2: I'll double check that information, but that's the latest that
Speaker 2: I had before we went to air. But the consequences
Speaker 2: of Australia's third biggest airline, which has helped push down
Speaker 2: some of the prices between the major capitals.
Speaker 3: Of course, all of that is the side.
Speaker 2: Business to the real business, which is flying people around
Speaker 2: the more remote parts of our country. And it's a
Speaker 2: bloody big joint and it is a forever walk. So
Speaker 2: people need to be able to fly. They also need
Speaker 2: to be able to fly at a reasonable price.
Speaker 7: The reason for the Tree rating hold is that they're
Speaker 7: awaiting a report from EY, which has been running a
Speaker 7: rule over their books. They expect that report will provide
Speaker 7: information on whether they can restructure the business so it
Speaker 7: can continue, or whether administrators need to be appointed. So
Speaker 7: it's a pretty grim situation for Rex unfortunately, which is
Speaker 7: really the last thing Australia's aviation industry needs at this point.
Speaker 2: Now, again the airline, I'll obviously get in touch with you,
Speaker 2: but I understand if you've got a flight in the
Speaker 2: morning will of course be on it, as it will
Speaker 2: be tomorrow or the next couple of days. But again,
Speaker 2: driving home the point about why this airline is important,
Speaker 2: and frankly, air travel outside of the major centers is
Speaker 2: a bit like getting a bus or being able to drive.
Speaker 2: It is just a necessary mode of transport. Now, I
Speaker 2: love man e isab but obviously you can drive there,
Speaker 2: but it's a bloody long way, so you have to
Speaker 2: be able to fly. And if you don't fly directly
Speaker 2: into Bruceban, you're able to get yourself to places like towns,
Speaker 2: will Cans or other places to connect yourself back up
Speaker 2: with the rest of the country. Now, these people are
Speaker 2: our fellow Australians, citizens, taxpayers. They work in communities that
Speaker 2: often produce the agriculture or mining that the Satan federal
Speaker 2: government take for granted to be able to pay for everything.
Speaker 2: So the people who work in those minds, work on
Speaker 2: those farms and live in those communities should be given
Speaker 2: the same access to transport as anyone living in any
Speaker 2: major city. It's certainly a point that Bridget McKenzie makes
Speaker 2: as a regional MP.
Speaker 8: This isn't just about getting people to and from their
Speaker 8: holidays in the regions. It's a critical economic service provider
Speaker 8: and a health provider into our communities and the government
Speaker 8: needs to guarantee, no matter what decision the Board of
Speaker 8: REX makes over the coming period, that these services won't
Speaker 8: disappear out of our community.
Speaker 3: That's the key.
Speaker 2: It's one thing for it to financially continue to find
Speaker 2: a new way. It's another thing for it to continue
Speaker 2: to be servicing the areas that its services. Now again
Speaker 2: it's part of our town. We often use all different airlines,
Speaker 2: but any time I've experienced a flight on REX in
Speaker 2: a regional airline, the staff are fantastic. The captain will
Speaker 2: literally say hello and goodbye to you, maybe even hand
Speaker 2: you the bag. Let alone the people that are assisting
Speaker 2: him on the flight, but clearly the employees they deserve
Speaker 2: to remain in employment and the communities that they service
Speaker 2: deserve to be connected to the rest of the country.
Speaker 3: For its part, the federal government says, well, OK.
Speaker 2: We don't want to see this thing fold, but of
Speaker 2: course that means more taxpayer money. As a taxpayer, no
Speaker 2: different than yourself, I have no problem if some government
Speaker 2: money goes to awards making sure that people can be
Speaker 2: connected to the rest of the country.
Speaker 3: Is a Transport minister.
Speaker 9: We're in touch obviously with REX and we expect them
Speaker 9: to inform both HAVE six and then its customers tomorrow
Speaker 9: about what is actually happening. Regional Australians still rely on REX.
Speaker 9: It's an incredibly important airline. In many cases it's the
Speaker 9: only airline are going into a range of smaller country
Speaker 9: towns heavily reliant on it. Some of our King Island,
Speaker 9: for example, heavily reliant on it as well. So we
Speaker 9: are treating this very seriously and keep being very vigilant
Speaker 9: about what is actually happening.
Speaker 2: You know, I try to give you the data, we
Speaker 2: put the opinion on top of it. Well, the latest
Speaker 2: data is yet again humbling for the federal government. Now,
Speaker 2: if you watch some political commentary or read it, you
Speaker 2: would think that the Abenezy government had one hundred seats
Speaker 2: in the Parliament of one hundred and fifty one, that
Speaker 2: they would have such a massive backbench that whatever the
Speaker 2: result is of the upcoming election, it doesn't matter. Absolute
Speaker 2: guarantee that they will remain in majority government. Well, of
Speaker 2: course they don't, and most likely they won't. Yet another poll,
Speaker 2: this time coming from the Turmbul Times otherwise known as
Speaker 2: the Guardian. It shows here that the Greens are on
Speaker 2: eleven percent, lab on thirty two percent. Put them together,
Speaker 2: well you can see that that's how they end up
Speaker 2: staying in power at forty three percent, the Liberal National
Speaker 2: Party at thirty four percent, and other can be anything
Speaker 2: from the United Australia Party One Nation or the Teals. Interestingly,
Speaker 2: in this though, when they get into two party preferred,
Speaker 2: which there you can see is forty seven to forty six,
Speaker 2: there is a number of undecideds. This is interesting if
Speaker 2: you think about the federal election and all the conversation
Speaker 2: that happens all the time. If I told you just
Speaker 2: six percent, six percent was still up for grabs and
Speaker 2: an actual fact, an extreme majority of people have no
Speaker 2: plan to change their vote apart from what you are
Speaker 2: starting to see here, but you can start to see
Speaker 2: that when things like interest rates go up or there
Speaker 2: is two little too late tax cuts, that when they fail,
Speaker 2: they are an indication of what may potentially be happening
Speaker 2: at the next election. Will there be a change of
Speaker 2: government most likely, not until we get the evidence about
Speaker 2: what's happening when it comes to the Teals. But will
Speaker 2: there be a minority government? Most likely?
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: Now I've shown you before about just how deep into
Speaker 2: minority the Labour Party can go before we start getting
Speaker 2: into the really kooky members of the cross bench, like
Speaker 2: some of the leftier Teals all the way through to
Speaker 2: the Greens, and they are now into that territory. Whether safer,
Speaker 2: more logical sets of hands. Well, they start passing the
Speaker 2: ball and we're now down, according to Newspoll between seven
Speaker 2: and eight seats being lost by the government. That puts
Speaker 2: them down to seventy two. They would need, of course,
Speaker 2: a whole lot more to get to seventy six than
Speaker 2: you throw in a speaker at seventy seven, and the
Speaker 2: whole thing becomes pretty damn precarious. But of course this
Speaker 2: prime minister and his minister's one of the many reasons
Speaker 2: for the reshuffle. And by the way, those who like
Speaker 2: to tell you nothing to see here, they just moved
Speaker 2: awesome people into other awesome positions.
Speaker 3: Could somebody please tell me.
Speaker 2: Why did all of this happen under the cover of
Speaker 2: the Olympics when the Prime minister knew the extreme majority
Speaker 2: of the country, including the what six percent who are
Speaker 2: probably paying an attention to something else, wouldn't notice because of
Speaker 2: course they're trying to hide their mistakes. But over and
Speaker 2: over again, the Labour Party of the left of politics
Speaker 2: likes to tell you that they are the ones who
Speaker 2: are the worker's friend.
Speaker 3: You often hear it echoed in the.
Speaker 1: Media, workers, working class, workers, workers, But.
Speaker 2: Let's actually have a look at a rather scary number,
Speaker 2: not just for the Prime Minister but also for the
Speaker 2: opposition leader about people's perceptions about the major political parties.
Speaker 2: And it comes to the working conditions or the best
Speaker 2: party that is best to take care of workers again,
Speaker 2: essential poll Turnabul Times now the Improving the Rights of workers. Yes,
Speaker 2: Labor defeats the Liberal Party, but guess who defeats that
Speaker 2: neither supporting higher wages and better working conditions.
Speaker 3: Well, guess what.
Speaker 2: Beats the Labor Party or the Liberal Party neither or
Speaker 2: unsure ensuring that the economy operates fairly for everyone. Again,
Speaker 2: the middle of the road wins and ensuring unions are
Speaker 2: operating ethically remains even, meaning that either there's an opportunity
Speaker 2: for the Liberal Party to grow here, the Labor Party
Speaker 2: to consolidate here, or someone to be able to drive
Speaker 2: a stake right down the middle. And if you think
Speaker 2: that the Labor Party is more likely to pull back
Speaker 2: workers because well it's the traditional workers party, we'll have
Speaker 2: a look at again, same poles, same organization, turnbul Times.
Speaker 2: The Guardian, the essential organization yet again tells us more
Speaker 2: than half of the country believes we are headed in
Speaker 2: the wrong direct In fact, that's up fifteen points since
Speaker 2: February of last year. The number of people who think
Speaker 2: the countryes had in the right direction, which was already
Speaker 2: a minority, is now down to thirty two percent. Again
Speaker 2: a reminder of those who talk about politics for a living,
Speaker 2: who don't seem to think there's anything wrong with the
Speaker 2: government or think somehow they will upset the government by
Speaker 2: pointing out anything that's wrong with the government. Therefore, just
Speaker 2: repeat their lines that everything is awesome, everything's okay, they're
Speaker 2: nothing to do with anything, and of course it's just
Speaker 2: moving genius from one office to another in terms of
Speaker 2: a cabinet reshuffle, or failures when it comes to the
Speaker 2: budget or all of somebody else's making, or when all
Speaker 2: else fails, memory wipe as if it's men in black well,
Speaker 2: they'd like to tell you that Anthony Abernezi is of
Speaker 2: course the solution to the problems, and he's a little
Speaker 2: warning to the Prime Minister. Now like all politicians, he thinks,
Speaker 2: just throw more of me at the problem and suddenly
Speaker 2: everyone will turn around because he has the special connection
Speaker 2: to Australians. Right wrong again. Turmbul Time's Essential poll, forty
Speaker 2: six percent of people disapprove of the prime Minister's handling
Speaker 2: of the job. Eleven percent of people don't know, forty
Speaker 2: three percent approve, so yes, that's tight, but still more
Speaker 2: people disapprove of the prime Minister's performance than approve. So
Speaker 2: if the Prime Minister thinks, throw more prime minister at it, well,
Speaker 2: the Australian perception of the prime minister is in negative territory.
Speaker 2: But don't the left you media always tell us that
Speaker 2: Peter Dutton's in a much worse position, that people hate him,
Speaker 2: that there's no possible way that anyone could ever consider
Speaker 2: him to be the alternative prime minister. Only problem is
Speaker 2: they haven't told the very same people who tell us
Speaker 2: that more people disapprove of the prime Minister's performance than approved,
Speaker 2: Because guess what, more people approve of Peter Dutton's performance
Speaker 2: than disapprove. It's tight forty two to forty one, and
Speaker 2: with seventeen percent still undecided. That again, can be defined
Speaker 2: by the attack ads that come from the Labour Party
Speaker 2: or defined by the way Peter Dutton handles himself between
Speaker 2: now and the next election. But right now you put
Speaker 2: him side by side, the one with a better approval
Speaker 2: rating is Peter Dutton, regardless of whom is suggested to
Speaker 2: be the preferred prime minister, Which brings us to a
Speaker 2: point that our mate Kevin Donnelly, who normally writes on
Speaker 2: education matters and we talk to him quite regularly here
Speaker 2: on Palmurray Live well. He wrote a great piece today
Speaker 2: in the Daily Telegraph, the Herald's Sun, the Korean Mail,
Speaker 2: the Adelaide Advertiser, the Mercury and everywhere else, making things worse.
Speaker 2: Albo's policies fail to unify the nation. Whereas the ALP
Speaker 2: began as a workers party fighting for higher wages and
Speaker 2: better working conditions, it's now dominated by privileged inner city elites,
Speaker 2: advocating rainbow alliances of woke causes excellent points, championing wind
Speaker 2: and solar energy, thus destroying the nation's only reliable and
Speaker 2: affordable coal and gas industry, pushing multiculturalism leading to racial
Speaker 2: tensions and anti semitism and the fall of stem immigration.
Speaker 2: Proof of the ALP is now the party of the
Speaker 2: woke elites. One term Albow. Now, I don't think that
Speaker 2: he will be a one term prime minister, but still
Speaker 2: he goes.
Speaker 3: On one term.
Speaker 2: Albou insists that unifying instead of unifying the nation continues
Speaker 2: to implement policies only making the situation worse. Chasing the
Speaker 2: renewable energy delusion guarantees energy prices will escalate and the
Speaker 2: economy flatline. All worth paying attention to. And again, speaking
Speaker 2: of poles, I do love when media organizations basically like
Speaker 2: to go out and do their best to try to
Speaker 2: find evidence that youth crime is not a problem. This
Speaker 2: is all just a giant hype job being done by
Speaker 2: people who want to dislodge.
Speaker 3: Governments, when, of course, the reality.
Speaker 2: Of anyone who has ever been outside of the safe
Speaker 2: little in the city bubbles, let alone outside of the
Speaker 2: major capital city bubbles. Will they know that many people
Speaker 2: are concerned, fearful and that has changed in the past
Speaker 2: couple of years for a whole collection of different reasons. Well, interestingly,
Speaker 2: the Channel nine newspapers, when some of their staff are
Speaker 2: are or aren't on strike right now, will they put
Speaker 2: a poll out where what do you trust? Do you
Speaker 2: have faith in the courts or do you have faith
Speaker 2: in the police. Sixty nine percent of people said that
Speaker 2: they have faith in the police, thirteen don't an eighteen
Speaker 2: percent don't know, as opposed to thirty percent of people
Speaker 2: who have faith in the court or justice system forty
Speaker 2: seven percent who don't. Because you see, this is the problem,
Speaker 2: isn't it. That the crime takes place, the police respond
Speaker 2: to it. The police end up doing the hard work
Speaker 2: of finding, catching, cuffing these people, and then once they
Speaker 2: eventually get to a court, of course, the system instantly
Speaker 2: changes and rather than the victim of the crime being
Speaker 2: at the center of the process and therefore the judgment
Speaker 2: being made about the person who committed the crime against you,
Speaker 2: the system ends up being well, why did you commit
Speaker 2: the crime? What is in your history, what is in
Speaker 2: your past? Okay, you get another chance. Understandably, people remain
Speaker 2: frustrated and furious, and that is why this program is
Speaker 2: pro police. It is pro police because the men and
Speaker 2: women of the police forces of this country run towards
Speaker 2: the situations multiple times every day that the rest of
Speaker 2: us would consider to be some of the worst days
Speaker 2: of our lives. Well, this is what they interact with
Speaker 2: all day, every day. We are endlessly thankful for their
Speaker 2: family sacrifice and for the physical sacrifice that they make
Speaker 2: on the job. Now, of course, you remember the shootings
Speaker 2: which took place in Queensland, where an act of terrorism
Speaker 2: resulted in two police officers being murdered. There is currently
Speaker 2: a coronial inquest into what took place. Constable Randall Kirk
Speaker 2: gave some evidence and I am going to show you
Speaker 2: some footage. That is his bodycam footage of when he
Speaker 2: was running towards his car for protection but then was
Speaker 2: being shot at for his reasons. This footage is deeply,
Speaker 2: deeply distressing. If anyone is easily offended or squirmish, now
Speaker 2: is the time to press mut or maybe blink for
Speaker 2: a couple of seconds.
Speaker 3: But for everyone else who needs a.
Speaker 2: Reminder or or he knows in their heart why the
Speaker 2: police are the best amongst us, have a look at
Speaker 2: what this bloke had to encounter on the same day
Speaker 2: two of his colleagues were murdered. You loved shot. That
Speaker 2: is frightening. That is utterly frightening. Also a great difference
Speaker 2: between what you see on TV. This is what happens
Speaker 2: in reality when somebody starts shooting at you. Now again,
Speaker 2: there's some pretty gruesome and really difficult stuff in and
Speaker 2: around this case, which if you are reading about it,
Speaker 2: I won't be repeating here, but it is frightening. The
Speaker 2: idea that every officer every day gets up with an
Speaker 2: expectation that there is a chance that the could happen
Speaker 2: to them on any one day, being shot at, or
Speaker 2: being injured or worse. Yet they keep turning up, and
Speaker 2: they turn up year after year. Is an incredible credit.
Speaker 2: This show is pro police. Its viewers a pro police.
Speaker 2: The wider community is pro police when it comes to
Speaker 2: the courts, not so much. Speaking of Queensland, its a
Speaker 2: hapless premiere, Old Giggles Miles, who of course wasn't laughing
Speaker 2: at all when asked a question about youth crime, because no,
Speaker 2: he definitely wasn't laughing despite if the question.
Speaker 3: Was about youth crime. Remember we've been following this one
Speaker 3: for months.
Speaker 2: We gave you an update on last week, which was
Speaker 2: when he appointed a brand new police commissioner, yet had
Speaker 2: no room on his plane to bring the police commissioner
Speaker 2: to the series of press conferences to show they were
Speaker 2: serious about youth crime, because of course all of his
Speaker 2: staffers and a couple of ringing MPs were there. So
Speaker 2: you ended up with two planes flying from Brisbane in
Speaker 2: and around parts of North Queensland. The title cost one
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy thousand dollars Well, after all of this
Speaker 2: was finally reveal in a process where they could no
Speaker 2: longer hide it, we followed the bouncy ball of how
Speaker 2: Stephen Miles said, Well, of course this happened because he
Speaker 2: had to find his own way, his own transport, as
Speaker 2: opposed to him simply being able to invite him onto
Speaker 2: the same plane. Well again, he was asked about it
Speaker 2: in Brisbane, and he's a little cranky because this subject
Speaker 2: doesn't go away.
Speaker 10: We've discussed it regularly, We've been over it many many times.
Speaker 10: But I will never apologize for spending time in regional
Speaker 10: Queensland and for making the arrangements that are necessary to
Speaker 10: spend as much time there as I can.
Speaker 2: Queensland place. You've got your chance. We'll see what happens
Speaker 2: in the next little while. All right to Paris right now,
Speaker 2: and well, the main river in Paris is an open
Speaker 2: sewer at the moment for obvious reasons. You can see
Speaker 2: that the river Sin is supposed to be clean. It's not,
Speaker 2: which means triathlon has been put off. Why because, among
Speaker 2: other things, the city of Love, which has got plenty
Speaker 2: of puppies, and plenty of puppies that lead bits of
Speaker 2: themselves behind when the rain flows, that all ends up
Speaker 2: while going into the river. The river of course is
Speaker 2: unable to be swimming, so the triathlon has been put off.
Speaker 2: And let me now answer this question which you may
Speaker 2: will have been asking yourself, which is what is going
Speaker 2: on with why they don't hand out flowers like they
Speaker 2: normally do when somebody wins a metal. Instead they get
Speaker 2: this little cardboard tube. Well, the Core email answered this
Speaker 2: one for us today and guess what. It turns out
Speaker 2: that inside the box has rolled up official poster of
Speaker 2: the Paris Olympics. It is mean's reading, about forty centimeters long.
Speaker 2: It features the Eiffel Tower, depictions of several Olympic events,
Speaker 2: and the Olympiad for the thirty third edition of the Games.
Speaker 3: Which I think is awesome, very cool.
Speaker 2: So you'd be able to not maybe have your metal
Speaker 2: out on show, but you'd be able to have a
Speaker 2: poster and everyone goes, how were you an Olympic?
Speaker 9: Yes?
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 2: That is why they hand out those things the way
Speaker 2: they currently are. And before we get into the debate tonight,
Speaker 2: and remember Nigel Ferrad joints this for the first time
Speaker 2: in a long time since the UK we'll talk about
Speaker 2: his rise to a position in the Parliament along with
Speaker 2: multiple others with reform, also his closeness with Trump.
Speaker 3: Has he spoken to Trump since he was shot.
Speaker 2: And what does he think about the world of Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2: We get to him a little later in the show,
Speaker 2: a great debate moments away. But can we just focus
Speaker 2: on some of the cringe around Kamala. This is the
Speaker 2: front page of the New York magazine, super lefty magazine
Speaker 2: read by super lefties.
Speaker 3: But look how overly.
Speaker 2: Excited they all are because she's sitting on top of
Speaker 2: a coconut. I still don't care what that means. And
Speaker 2: everyone's dancing around, including Joe Biden, who of course was
Speaker 2: pushed out of the way for her to become the
Speaker 2: candidate who apparently isn't standing for anything.
Speaker 3: But if you criticize her at all, it's racist.
Speaker 2: And I showed you before the example of again Pete cringe,
Speaker 2: where I know this fires up people that were already
Speaker 2: going to vote against Donald Trump. But how does this
Speaker 2: move anyone who was going to vote for Donald Trump
Speaker 2: to move over to vote for the Democrats. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but thankfully the limbs of TikTok we're able to find
Speaker 2: this video which is all about being out and.
Speaker 3: Proud for Ms Harris.
Speaker 1: She didn't get Bill's past encoundress that I'll protect.
Speaker 2: Me and you wait, Latin of Asia not lgbt Q.
Speaker 3: She can get this country back to where we can stand.
Speaker 11: Keep men as.
Speaker 2: From home without well, yeah, that'll win it more in
Speaker 2: a sick you're on, Paulhoe, you live, you know, I
Speaker 2: send me an email, Paul, Let's go news dot com
Speaker 2: dot au.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for watching Joe.
Speaker 2: Hilda Brand carry out a champions always here each and
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Speaker 12: Man, The Real Story, The Real Story Brand, And one
Speaker 12: week It's going to be the Real Story with Joe Hilderbrand,
Speaker 12: Paul Murray or get you on Excellent.
Speaker 1: You're on our wish list.
Speaker 3: Towards the bottom, but still there.
Speaker 1: I'll be there.
Speaker 2: Emily Die of course, with the Center of Independent Studies,
Speaker 2: I'm going to get into a great reporter. I was
Speaker 2: reading of herst today, which was a massive survey of
Speaker 2: people and their attitudes about companies that go super woke.
Speaker 3: Surprisingly, it doesn't go well for the superwork company.
Speaker 2: We'll get to this in a second, let's go to
Speaker 2: where I started with this essential poll showing that neither
Speaker 2: the Labor Party or the Liberal Party is actually in
Speaker 2: front when it comes to the battle for the workers. Now, yes,
Speaker 2: the Labor Party on some is doing better and the
Speaker 2: Liberal Party is doing better on parties doing really well,
Speaker 2: but do not show and that is that is really interesting,
Speaker 2: isn't it about what we talk about about some supposedly
Speaker 2: big changes that are happening globally right. One of the
Speaker 2: things that was getting behind a Nigel Farage again a
Speaker 2: certain level of the working class getting in behind him.
Speaker 3: We certainly know that.
Speaker 2: It's been part of the coalition, and we know that
Speaker 2: obviously the Liberal Party would suggest that that's one of
Speaker 2: their hopes to have a path back. But if that
Speaker 2: many people this light in the cycle of telling us
Speaker 2: that they're not sure, then I think that's just pretty
Speaker 2: fertile ground for the far left in the Greens or
Speaker 2: some populist parties on the right.
Speaker 3: What do you reckon them?
Speaker 9: We?
Speaker 11: I mean possibly.
Speaker 13: I was looking at the breakdowns that was in that data,
Speaker 13: and one of the things that struck me is the
Speaker 13: fact that the younger generations tend to still be a
Speaker 13: little bit more left wing. They're a little bit more
Speaker 13: confident in the Labor Party, which actually surprised me because
Speaker 13: I think that young people tend to like smaller parties
Speaker 13: and be more into the Greens, more into the Independence.
Speaker 11: But they did have a.
Speaker 13: Little bit more confidence, and I did also notice that
Speaker 13: the Greens were very much not confident. The only group
Speaker 13: that was particularly keen on the Labor Party when it
Speaker 13: came to labor issues were Labor Party voters.
Speaker 2: So again, Joe, what does this tell you about how
Speaker 2: the government has prosecuted its first two years.
Speaker 12: Yeah, look, it is really obviously it's the sort of
Speaker 12: thing that I've been banging on about for years, as
Speaker 12: many people in the Labor many sensible heads in the
Speaker 12: Labor Party, especially the New South Wales right of the
Speaker 12: Labor Party, have been banging on about for years. There
Speaker 12: is a disconnect that basically began with the Whitlam years
Speaker 12: between you know, inner city tertiary educated university graduates who
Speaker 12: are obsessed with ideology and then things like you know,
Speaker 12: environmentalism and you know, improving the worker by applying a
Speaker 12: kind of you know, socialist orthodoxy down on them rather
Speaker 12: than actually listening to what they want and giving it
Speaker 12: to them.
Speaker 1: And and hereing lies the problem.
Speaker 12: This is why the Greens obviously do not resonate with
Speaker 12: working people, because they never met any of them. But
Speaker 12: it also means that whenever labor is focused on things
Speaker 12: that seem remotely ideological or remotely linked to identity politics,
Speaker 12: it goes really really badly for them. So again the
Speaker 12: Voice referendum, which I was a big supporter of, but
Speaker 12: in the middle of a cost of living crisis, it
Speaker 12: was just the worst possible thing to be focused on,
Speaker 12: and the government sort of to its credit, quickly realized that,
Speaker 12: but it was so sort of branded with it, it was
Speaker 12: too late to change tack. We've already seen, I believe
Speaker 12: a mark. There was a pile around a few months
Speaker 12: ago that showed that blue collar among blue collar workers,
Speaker 12: they actually prefer the Coalition.
Speaker 2: In April, well literally last weekend, there was one showing
Speaker 2: that it didn't matter where you were on the income
Speaker 2: scale or where you were on the home ownership scale.
Speaker 2: That was leaning Dutton's way right now, And this information
Speaker 2: again it steps back a bit more to the neutral territory.
Speaker 2: But I'm fascinated in and around all of this again, Emily,
Speaker 2: because one of the things that the Liberal Party, in
Speaker 2: terms of what it has said in the past or
Speaker 2: what has assumed about it in the past is and
Speaker 2: I think one of the moments when you know, I
Speaker 2: certainly look back at as always when you go, well
Speaker 2: did I have the right take on this or the
Speaker 2: right take on that? One of the things that Albanezi
Speaker 2: and again we all know, I don't know a thing
Speaker 2: was pretty effective at during the election campaign was talking
Speaker 2: about that minimum wage rise and holding up the coin
Speaker 2: and all the rest of it. Right, I think that
Speaker 2: center right of politics has to start getting more vocally
Speaker 2: behind wage rises rather than just falling behind the sort
Speaker 2: of general pattern of big business, which.
Speaker 3: Is the sky is going to fall in.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: It's difficult for small business. It's always difficult for small business.
Speaker 2: But I think politically, if you want to start to
Speaker 2: eat into that group, and there's obviously a fair amount
Speaker 2: of people, then the next time one of these things
Speaker 2: come up, you go, hell yeah, bring it on, bring
Speaker 2: on the wage rise.
Speaker 3: Now, am I wrong in this idea? You're a rug?
Speaker 13: I mean, I controversial opinion. I actually don't think the
Speaker 13: minimum wage is that important either way, and that the
Speaker 13: economy be controversial.
Speaker 11: That's what it would be good to be focusing on
Speaker 11: that inflation and the taxis situation and trying to figure
Speaker 11: out ways to come from a more center right position
Speaker 11: and provide really pleactical solutions to your master.
Speaker 2: Living interesting piece again in the Turmbul Times, forgive me
Speaker 2: mentioning them as often as I am this evening. It's
Speaker 2: my se so you don't have to in between the
Speaker 2: constant being for donations. But anyway, data good story today,
Speaker 2: which was a bunch of academics have come forward under
Speaker 2: the cloak of anonymity to tell us what we've kind
Speaker 2: of already known, which is there's a significant number of
Speaker 2: people that are getting through the university system whose basic
Speaker 2: knowledge of English is pretty poor. And I'm not just
Speaker 2: talking about sort of you know, kids that don't really
Speaker 2: know what they're doing that are from here, but the
Speaker 2: overseas student who doesn't have a grasp of the language. Joe,
Speaker 2: how do we marry the two Because I always think,
Speaker 2: sort of, again, I understand the size of the industry,
Speaker 2: the purpose of the industry, the need for better education,
Speaker 2: but I think that we've tipped way past this point
Speaker 2: of no return when the tax payer will guarantee as
Speaker 2: many butts as you can get in seats will pay
Speaker 2: up front and anything else you can top up with
Speaker 2: whoever can pay for it, as opposed to the roller
Speaker 2: coaster where you must be this smart to ride.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's a really tricky by as one that divides
Speaker 12: universities as well. So the really kind of elite kind
Speaker 12: of you know, Bluestone and Sandstone universities, the group of a.
Speaker 12: They love international students because they've got a great reputation overseas,
Speaker 12: they've got a huge amount of prestige, and they get
Speaker 12: a huge amount of their money from international students, and
Speaker 12: in sense is a really really good thing because it
Speaker 12: means they're basically milking that sky whale in which everybody
Speaker 12: camera I'd understand, and they can they're not rely on
Speaker 12: the tax payer and they can also use those funds
Speaker 12: for research and that sort of stuff. The problem is
Speaker 12: when you have smaller universities like say Western sinde, the
Speaker 12: UNI or Wollongong or whatever are great unis, but they
Speaker 12: cannot attract that kind of investment from overseas. But of
Speaker 12: course the other thing that happens is when once you
Speaker 12: have a sort of you know, pay as you go
Speaker 12: kind of education system where people from you know, Asia
Speaker 12: for example, are paying huge amounts of money to send
Speaker 12: their kids to safe in the university. Well, you want
Speaker 12: bang for your buck, don't you want? They have to
Speaker 12: come back with a degree. And so if they're going
Speaker 12: to come back with a degree, then you have to
Speaker 12: make sure that the language component of.
Speaker 1: That degree isn't to own us.
Speaker 12: That it's prohibitive for them. And that means that when
Speaker 12: they're in a classroom environment or environment with other students
Speaker 12: often and I heard this, I've heard this anecdotally for
Speaker 12: I think decades now, since almost when I was at UNI,
Speaker 12: that the teaching level of the classroom is as always,
Speaker 12: you know, reduced to the person sort of who can
Speaker 12: understand the least, and that.
Speaker 1: That is the problem.
Speaker 2: So again, you know, Emily, is that I get all
Speaker 2: of the business model, but again, doesn't there have to
Speaker 2: be this trade off where you have to know that
Speaker 2: somebody has a certain series of as they would, not
Speaker 2: just financial but intellectual and English competency to be able
Speaker 2: to do the course rather than just thanks for the cash.
Speaker 2: All right, fill out the forms. We'll get back to
Speaker 2: you in two years with you know, something with a
Speaker 2: little stamp on it.
Speaker 11: Yeah, well you were saying, butts in seats. I don't
Speaker 11: even know if the butts are in the seats.
Speaker 3: A lot of these kids fingers on computers.
Speaker 11: It's on computers. They're not even going to class.
Speaker 13: They recently ordered it age, you said, and it was shocking,
Speaker 13: like these students aren't participating. They don't understand the lecture
Speaker 13: of the lecture with very good like great professor, great
Speaker 13: content from and yet these students they're not participating, they
Speaker 13: can't really understand. They're just going to go look at
Speaker 13: the recording later and have it translated for them. And
Speaker 13: it's really decreasing the value of this education for Australian students,
Speaker 13: for all the students across the board, anyone who's going
Speaker 13: to university to genuinely learn is missing out. So I
Speaker 13: think the only real solution is to introduce more competition, because,
Speaker 13: like you were saying with the business case, the incentives
Speaker 13: are all wrong.
Speaker 11: It's the fourth largest export in Australia. Education the education
Speaker 11: is a bit.
Speaker 3: But then also we sort of you have any change
Speaker 3: to this system.
Speaker 2: Oh you're trying to stop you poor kids from No,
Speaker 2: it's all just about. You can be the poorest kid
Speaker 2: in the poorest street, in the poorest suburb. If you're
Speaker 2: smart enough to get into the course, you can do
Speaker 2: the course right. But currently it's just are you willing
Speaker 2: to turn up after we've offered it to every and
Speaker 2: anyone else? Because the taxpayer will pay upfront and until
Speaker 2: you win what the best part of fifty and afit
Speaker 2: thousand dollars you know to pay anything back. Let's talk
Speaker 2: about the Center of Independent Studies. Great report that you did,
Speaker 2: which was a survey of two and a half thousand people.
Speaker 2: That's more than the Newspolen numbers. So if the news
Speaker 2: poll numbers statistically accurate enough for us to sack prime ministers,
Speaker 2: then you're close to gospel here. What did you find
Speaker 2: about Australian's attitudes towards companies When they get woke and
Speaker 2: they start talking about lifestyle not their actual product.
Speaker 11: They're not a fan.
Speaker 13: Just across the board, Australians do not support this kind
Speaker 13: of esg. Corporate activism, social activism. It's coming out of
Speaker 13: these businesses, things like the Voice referendum and Quantus really
Speaker 13: getting on board. We asked what people thought was the
Speaker 13: role of business, and seventy two percent said business should
Speaker 13: stick to protiviting good service to customers, good returns to shareholders,
Speaker 13: and stay out of politics and stay out of contentious
Speaker 13: issues and not get involved.
Speaker 2: So it feels that, again my sense was a little
Speaker 2: Bogan Spody senses here is that one of the ways
Speaker 2: that the left has been able to make particular moves
Speaker 2: in the past ten years is that win work right.
Speaker 2: The big business changed right. So you remember you sort
Speaker 2: of think about the United States as sort of an
Speaker 2: example of things. Oh, you know, big oil and big
Speaker 2: finance and all of these things are fighting against us
Speaker 2: the man as we're trying to fight for a bit
Speaker 2: of system. Well now, of course, for a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of reasons, all of these companies have sort of got
Speaker 2: little machines inside them that are saying, it's great that
Speaker 2: we make microphones, but what are we doing about climate change?
Speaker 2: What surprised you, either positively or negatively about people's attitudes.
Speaker 13: I think the thing that surprised me the most was
Speaker 13: just how little people are actually paying attention. So we
Speaker 13: asked people that were working for these big companies, how
Speaker 13: are where are they? And only fifteen percent that they
Speaker 13: closely followed the activism at their own companies. Wow, around
Speaker 13: sixty percent didn't know anything about what was going on.
Speaker 13: They weren't paying attention, They had no idea, nor did
Speaker 13: they care. And I think that's really telling that the
Speaker 13: people that are the closest to these companies are the
Speaker 13: least engaged.
Speaker 2: But also of but I always find a bit odd, Joe,
Speaker 2: is when companies decide, whatever this is, this is the.
Speaker 3: Thing they're going to focus on. Remember when there was.
Speaker 2: Like pink caps on bottles of water for about five years. Well,
Speaker 2: breast cancer existed before and it now exists after. So
Speaker 2: there's that sort of activism. But then there's the other
Speaker 2: type of activism, which is far more political.
Speaker 12: It actually ties very much to what we were talking
Speaker 12: about before, and this is that it's nothing to do
Speaker 12: with the cause. It is all about the company. It
Speaker 12: is all about the company's brand value and it's brand,
Speaker 12: how it wants to position itself and how it wants
Speaker 12: people to see it, not about how much it can
Speaker 12: do for any of the trip or bottom line.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 12: I promise you they don't care, because if they did,
Speaker 12: they'd shut up about it because they tend to harm
Speaker 12: the causes they talk about, and because people react instinctively,
Speaker 12: they say, well, don't you don't get to tell me
Speaker 12: what to do. Even if I agree with what you're saying,
Speaker 12: I don't want to hear it. And also, if a
Speaker 12: company is telling you how to be a better person,
Speaker 12: or be a better employee, or be a better citizen,
Speaker 12: that robs you of a huge amount of the reason
Speaker 12: why you would do that, because you want to think
Speaker 12: that you are taking these positions out of the goodness
Speaker 12: of your heart, because you're a smart person, or a
Speaker 12: kind person or a well informed person, not because your
Speaker 12: boss has told you that you better do this or.
Speaker 1: This is bad.
Speaker 12: And with the Voice stuff, I actually spoke to a
Speaker 12: really really senior stratus was brought in to try to
Speaker 12: fix the mess too late unfortunately. I said, you have
Speaker 12: got to stop solicit quotas bought tell them and he said,
Speaker 12: it's terrible. We don't want them. They're banging our door
Speaker 12: down and we can't say no. So the company's trying
Speaker 12: to support the Voice for actually.
Speaker 1: And in many ways they do it to avoid.
Speaker 3: The internet mob turning on them and them having to
Speaker 3: deal with all of that for the particular days. But Anyway,
Speaker 3: that's check for another time.
Speaker 2: Thank you guys to appreciate it. We'll see you again
Speaker 2: next week. All right, quick break. Niger Farage back on
Speaker 2: Aussie Telly, but as an MP and with plenty to
Speaker 2: say about the UK and US politics. Mortency like the
Speaker 2: world is completely different than the last time we had
Speaker 2: the chance to talk to Nigel Farage. Including he's an MP,
Speaker 2: Biden's gone, Harris is in, Trump's the same somebody took
Speaker 2: a shot at him. So good to see you joining
Speaker 2: us now for the first time in a long time
Speaker 2: from London, Nigel. We'll get to the UK stuff at
Speaker 2: a second, but most importantly, congratulations. I watched so many
Speaker 2: of your rallies on YouTube. I watched what you did
Speaker 2: the Happy Warrior was was so invigorating to see congratulations.
Speaker 3: On what you and Reform were able to achieve.
Speaker 14: Mat No, well, thank you, and I'm sorry I've been
Speaker 14: away for so long, but I have been, as you say,
Speaker 14: rather busy one way and t other. The happy Warrior
Speaker 14: line is very interesting. You know, the modern liberal left
Speaker 14: are oh so sincere about absolutely everything. I don't think
Speaker 14: anyone should tell a joke of any kind of tool.
Speaker 14: If they do they might get canceled. And then so
Speaker 14: many of the conservative movement across the Western world.
Speaker 1: Are just a bit dull as well.
Speaker 14: So you know, if we can inject a bit of life,
Speaker 14: a bit of comedy, a bit of fun in what
Speaker 14: we do, well, isn't that what ordinary folk do when
Speaker 14: they live their lives. Yeah, we believe in what we
Speaker 14: believe in. So yeah, I would love to be thought
Speaker 14: of as a happy warrior.
Speaker 1: I always have been, and you know what, I always
Speaker 1: will be.
Speaker 2: Well, And honestly, I was watching this and I was
Speaker 2: just like sending copies of this to people in austrating politics,
Speaker 2: just saying, this is the type of presentation that you
Speaker 2: have to have, right. There's lots of serious there's lots
Speaker 2: of edge, there's lots of realism about the polls, debates,
Speaker 2: all the rest of it.
Speaker 3: I loved it. Now I'm going to ask about Trump.
Speaker 2: Have you spoken to him since the assassination attimpt?
Speaker 14: Yes, briefly, but more importantly, I've spoken to the family
Speaker 14: at some considerable length. I cannot tell you how incandescent
Speaker 14: with fury they are at what happened. How the hell
Speaker 14: does somebody with a high velocity rifle get onto a
Speaker 14: sloping roof just one hundred and twenty meters away from
Speaker 14: where Trump is speaking. Has that ever been allowed to happen?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 14: Without getting deep into deep state conspiracy theory, what I
Speaker 14: think we can say is the woman that was appointed
Speaker 14: head of the Secret Service was put there as a
Speaker 14: woman who'd worked at a big corporate company, PepsiCo, in
Speaker 14: charge of their security. It looks very like a modern
Speaker 14: day diversity and inclusion job that it does given to
Speaker 14: somebody on merit, and it very nearly got Trump killed.
Speaker 14: I didn't used to believe in miracles, Paul, but after
Speaker 14: what happened on that day, I think now I do.
Speaker 3: And that image of him holding up and fight.
Speaker 2: I know that we're living at this breakneck speed, but
Speaker 2: that is an image that will live forever. And the
Speaker 2: idea that he didn't know what had happened, and we
Speaker 2: all know that adrenaline means you may not know where
Speaker 2: you've been hit and how long you've been hit. That
Speaker 2: could have been his final moments and for him to
Speaker 2: instinctively show fight, that was the moment when like even
Speaker 2: sort of never Trump. The rities that I know in
Speaker 2: Australia went, you know what, that's literal courage under fire.
Speaker 3: And now I'm all in, yeah.
Speaker 14: I mean, you can never tell how any of us
Speaker 14: would react. You know, we've been drafted into the army,
Speaker 14: We're told to go over the top, whatever it may be.
Speaker 14: You never know how anyone's going to react until they're
Speaker 14: actually there. What he showed in that moment was the
Speaker 14: man that I know. I said on stage in a
Speaker 14: twenty twenty presidential election in Phoenix, I said, and I
Speaker 14: pointed a Trump, and I said, this is the bravest
Speaker 14: man that I've ever met. And my goodness meet, didn't
Speaker 14: he prove it that day in Pennsylvania. Totally extraordinary. One
Speaker 14: things of the historic Iwergema image of them raising the
Speaker 14: flag after this tens of thousands of Americans died fighting
Speaker 14: the Japanese and as a statue in DC of the
Speaker 14: iwer Gema moment, but that was actually staged for a photographer.
Speaker 14: Trump doing that and saying fight, that was him. It
Speaker 14: tells you who he may not be perfect, but my
Speaker 14: goodness me, he's got the courage of a lion. And
Speaker 14: right now, with the threats we face, be it from
Speaker 14: Russia or China or perhaps the most serious of all, Iran,
Speaker 14: what the Western world needs is a strong, brave leader.
Speaker 14: Peace only comes through strength, not weakness.
Speaker 3: So how does he take on Harris?
Speaker 2: Because Harris is in this media bubble where she's not
Speaker 2: going to be asked a tough question. It will be
Speaker 2: the debate where when we'll all find out, how does
Speaker 2: he take her on when the media won't even let
Speaker 2: his attacks begin?
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, look, you know she's now the darling
Speaker 14: of the media.
Speaker 1: That was entirely predictable.
Speaker 14: Corporate money is flowing in again, what would you expect
Speaker 14: mainstream media not giving Trump but an even break.
Speaker 1: Well, hey, what's changed?
Speaker 14: I mean it was the same way against Hillary. Nothing's
Speaker 14: really changed at all. We're just back to normal really
Speaker 14: because ultimately Biden had to go, and I mean, frankly,
Speaker 14: shame on Kamala Harris and others for lying to the
Speaker 14: American people by saying that their president was competent and
Speaker 14: up to the job when very clearly he hadn't been
Speaker 14: for a considerable period of time. It's a funny thing,
Speaker 14: you know, if you're a strong, alpha male figure, if
Speaker 14: you're seen to to overtly attack a woman, it just
Speaker 14: doesn't look or feel right. So the trum campaign need
Speaker 14: to think about how they do that. However, they will
Speaker 14: be helped because every single potential banana skin that's on
Speaker 14: the floor between now and November the fifth, don't worry
Speaker 14: Harris will tread on it. She is a very, very
Speaker 14: poor candidate. She got nowhere in the primaries in her
Speaker 14: own party when she ran, you know, for the presidential nomination,
Speaker 14: and when Biden got it and talk about DEI as
Speaker 14: I mentioned earlier with the head of the Secret Service,
Speaker 14: I mean Biden said I'm going to pick a black
Speaker 14: woman to be the vice presidential running mate, as if
Speaker 14: to say ability no longer matters. We just pick someone
Speaker 14: because we're ticking boxes. Honestly, I think under fire she'll
Speaker 14: make terrible mistakes. We'll hear that sort of hyena like
Speaker 14: nervous laugh that she does.
Speaker 1: I don't think this is difficult.
Speaker 14: And you know, even if the love is on the
Speaker 14: on the coasts, think she's wonderful. Remember this, The presidential
Speaker 14: election will be one or last in the Midwest, the
Speaker 14: old industrial States. That is why jd Vance right, That
Speaker 14: is why the working class boy from Ohio who wrote
Speaker 14: Hill Billy Ellergy, that is why he's been picked as
Speaker 14: the vice presidential candidate.
Speaker 2: I am not Paul concerned at all. Well, we will
Speaker 2: dig into all of that next week. I'm overtime, but
Speaker 2: thanks for the check. I do appreciate it. We'll talk
Speaker 2: to Nigel again next week. The Late Debate is next