WEBVTT - #1926 D*ck Togs & Hand Warmers - Patrick Bonello

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<v Speaker 1>I got a tenaman, So you project Patrick and tear

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<v Speaker 1>for here every two weeks. We'll tips here a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more than that. Patrick's here every two weeks, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think we'd burst if we had any more of him

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<v Speaker 1>than that. Of course, it's the U project, and let's start.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go, let's go the other way around. Let's start

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<v Speaker 1>with boy wander up there in Bland, the thriving metropolis

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<v Speaker 1>of Bland.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, mate, how are you?

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<v Speaker 3>It was so cold yesterday that I was worried Fritz

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<v Speaker 3>was going to be frozen to a tree.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, frozen Fritz. That sounds like some kind of streets product.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, I have, yeah, lickety split and a frozen Fritz.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so cold. It was so it's been so freezing,

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<v Speaker 3>and I had one of you know those wheat heat

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<v Speaker 3>packs you put in the microwave. So I do call

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<v Speaker 3>this morning when I go. So, I've got my hoodie

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<v Speaker 3>with the pocket that goes all the way through, because's

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<v Speaker 3>very important. You get a pocket that goes all the

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<v Speaker 3>way through, and then I can shove my hands in

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<v Speaker 3>there and it stays warm for about Oh look, if

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<v Speaker 3>I zap at it for four minutes, I reckon I

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<v Speaker 3>get about forty five minutes of heat out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, can I throw down a challenge for you

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<v Speaker 1>to try something?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, personally, what's the I'm taking off? Mahuti?

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone, I must be getting serious to reveal the flannel

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<v Speaker 1>underneath for haughty. I'm not a bogain at all. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a treat for you too, but no one else. What's

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<v Speaker 1>the temperature there on average at the minute in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>look at bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Varies between minus two and maybe plus two at the

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<v Speaker 3>moment in the mornings.

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<v Speaker 2>And how long do you walk for?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Well, I go to the gym first, so that's

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<v Speaker 3>the first port of call, so Jim first. Because we've

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<v Speaker 3>spoken about putting the beach towel on my windscreen so

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<v Speaker 3>it does an ice over, So I do that the

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<v Speaker 3>night before. So I normally take Fritzy out for about

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<v Speaker 3>forty five minutes to an hour, depends on who I

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<v Speaker 3>bump into on the way, because our mutual friend tif

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<v Speaker 3>Kim and Walter we bump into them a fair bit.

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<v Speaker 3>And she's a listener to the show. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>tell you a story about this later. I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to interrupt the introduction, but it is pretty damn cold,

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<v Speaker 3>and I do go out for around about forty five

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<v Speaker 3>minutes to an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the only bloke that I can say, how long

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<v Speaker 1>do you walk for? And that becomes a two minute

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<v Speaker 1>monologue like all you need to go is forty five minutes?

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<v Speaker 2>Answer? Na, fucking hell. I just went and grew a

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<v Speaker 2>beard and had a shave.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's my It's something I've been doing. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be much harder for you, because I mean cold

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<v Speaker 1>where I am is about four or five or six,

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<v Speaker 1>but where you are it's fucking sub zero. Try this, mate,

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<v Speaker 1>like three mornings a week if you want to get up,

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<v Speaker 1>go for a walk without Fritz in a singlet and

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<v Speaker 1>a pair of shorts in the freezing for ten minutes

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<v Speaker 1>and see.

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<v Speaker 2>How you go.

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<v Speaker 1>So instead of having to do an ice bath or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, cold plunge or whatever, try that I've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. It's you feel fucking great when you get back.

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<v Speaker 3>NOODI run. You know I have Reinard syndrome, right, jog

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<v Speaker 3>it out. My hands and feet go white. If anybody

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<v Speaker 3>listening to us knows what reinards condition or reinard syndrome is,

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<v Speaker 3>it means that you don't just have cold hands. The

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<v Speaker 3>blood rushes out of your fingertips. Look it up, Go

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<v Speaker 3>and do a Google search on and just type in

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<v Speaker 3>Reynard syndrome and the fingers go completely white and numb.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's me within the third thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>So wear some gloves, but nothing else.

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<v Speaker 1>All I want is isody. I want some dick togs. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we want your junk covered. Nobody needs to see that,

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<v Speaker 1>although they need a fucking telescope. Dick togs gloves. Well

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<v Speaker 1>it's cold, I mean, and yeah, you don't want that

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<v Speaker 1>to do you. Good morning Tiff, Good morning tif here.

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<v Speaker 1>How why are you dressed like a corporate banana?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I'm a fancy I'm very fancy and.

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<v Speaker 1>You look like you're wearing a yellow suit or yellow

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<v Speaker 1>like yellow.

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<v Speaker 4>Double breasted jacket. It's the best, so good color.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been out networking this morning?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Just you know, work in the room, Harps, work in

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<v Speaker 5>the room, having some smash.

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<v Speaker 1>Davo tell me, tell me, and then Patrick can because

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<v Speaker 1>he's done a bit as well, because he told us

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<v Speaker 1>before we went live. What do you love and what

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<v Speaker 1>do you hate about networking? Or does depend depend on

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<v Speaker 1>the group.

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<v Speaker 4>Depends on the group very very much.

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<v Speaker 5>I love hanging out with people in group environments, kind

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<v Speaker 5>of supporting each other and learning from different types of

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<v Speaker 5>people and just interacting. I just love being in the

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<v Speaker 5>room with people, and I hate when it's awkward and

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<v Speaker 5>stilted and there's a bunch of enaughies and it's.

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<v Speaker 4>A bit forced. I hate that aspect, which.

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<v Speaker 5>Can you know, depending on what room you enter, there

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<v Speaker 5>can be some of that good.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is not incidental networking. These are groups that

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<v Speaker 1>are organized specifically to bring people together for that reason.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, this was My friend is a member of

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<v Speaker 5>this group. So I went along as a visit today.

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<v Speaker 5>They were holding a women's women in Business special events,

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<v Speaker 5>so it was all women's focus.

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<v Speaker 4>They had a stack of guests like.

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<v Speaker 5>Me come along and hang out with them, and it's

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<v Speaker 5>structured so there's chance for everyone to introduce themselves and

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<v Speaker 5>there's it's the purpose is to become referral partners for

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<v Speaker 5>each other in business.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice Patrick, you've done a little bit of that. Thoughts.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, my thoughts the same as Tiff. It really depends

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<v Speaker 3>on the room. The last time I did a networking

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<v Speaker 3>function was early last year. And I met my new

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<v Speaker 3>accountant there. He was fantastic, really dynamic, and he helped

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<v Speaker 3>me through a big business transition moving to a company structure.

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<v Speaker 3>He was phenomenal and it's great. And you know, it

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<v Speaker 3>was just a local networking thing organized by our local Shire.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, you laugh at me when I say shy.

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<v Speaker 3>You make me think I'm a hobbit, But we have

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<v Speaker 3>a Shire Council. But they do do a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>They're quite proactive in terms of doing networking and so.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've also been involved with our local Chamber of

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<v Speaker 3>Commerce for many years as well. You know, do their

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<v Speaker 3>website for them, and they have regular functions, they have

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<v Speaker 3>dinner meetings every month. But I think, yeah, in general,

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<v Speaker 3>it really does come down to reading the room and

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<v Speaker 3>getting the right people in the right space. And I

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<v Speaker 3>mean it's no different than anything that I guess you've

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<v Speaker 3>done with any sort of interaction. You can go to

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<v Speaker 3>a party and it can die in the backside because

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<v Speaker 3>it's just not the right chemistry, whereas other times, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you've got two men and a black dog and it's great,

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<v Speaker 3>it's the best not you've ever had. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just in the room.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I've never been to one. I should probably,

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<v Speaker 2>well maybe I should. I don't know, but yeah, I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be curious to go stick my nose in and

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens and meet a few.

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<v Speaker 5>People yourself invited. I'm going to haul you along and

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<v Speaker 5>guess what. This one's halfway between where you live and

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<v Speaker 5>where I live, so I will meet you there. You

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<v Speaker 5>won't have to stumble too far from your abode.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I have to get my passport out? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>further than Elwood because I.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't go further now, it's half way to Wellwood?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh bright, right, Well that's really I could probably do that,

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<v Speaker 1>probably negotiate that Patrick.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you going to make fun of my nose again?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, I just I mean you did mention about

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<v Speaker 3>taking it into the room with you. But that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>It usually gets there long before me. By the time

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<v Speaker 1>I get in there, three people are standing under it.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, anyway, if you're outside, all the smokers

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<v Speaker 3>can huddle underneath you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if it's raining, everyone can just fucking shelter under

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<v Speaker 1>my schnozz. Yeah, I'm okay with all that, don't mind

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<v Speaker 1>at all. What are we talking?

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<v Speaker 3>About today, technic technical, before we jump into this. I

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<v Speaker 3>had a fascinating conversation with my friend Kim yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, can I just point out, you know you're not

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<v Speaker 2>in charge?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? I know?

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<v Speaker 1>But no, no, you can't say before we jump into

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<v Speaker 1>this because you're not in fucking charge.

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<v Speaker 3>How about we vote? How about we vote to votes?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, it's a dictatorship. There's no fucking vote here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a megalamoniac. He's a megalomaniac. Maniacal podcast. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>get no fucking say he's going to tip?

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<v Speaker 2>What's fifty percent of zero?

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly? Come on, because you two are the people. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I reckon. There are two sorts of people in the world,

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<v Speaker 3>like the people who stub their toe cry and then

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<v Speaker 3>rock back and forward in the corner and the people

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<v Speaker 3>who pushed through it. Right. And so yesterday when I

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<v Speaker 3>bumped into my friend Kim and her dog Walter as

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<v Speaker 3>we were doing it early morning freezing walk, we got

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<v Speaker 3>talking about that sort of stuff and we started exchanging

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<v Speaker 3>pictures of our toes because I the last time I

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<v Speaker 3>was in Melbourne, I slipped off the bottom step and

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<v Speaker 3>flexed my toes and they ended up purple but I

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<v Speaker 3>pushed through it, right, And then she told me she

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<v Speaker 3>was lifting weights and was putting some new weights on.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what's the little end of the weights

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<v Speaker 3>that hold the big weights on collar. She's dropped the

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<v Speaker 3>collar onto her toe and then not only has she

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<v Speaker 3>broken her toe, she went for a run afterwards. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>this is how balls this she is. So we got

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<v Speaker 3>talking about this and pushing through and I was fascinated

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<v Speaker 3>to think about because the first time I ever went skiing,

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<v Speaker 3>on day one, I've fallen over. I fractured my finger.

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<v Speaker 3>My ring finger was at ninety degree ease, and then

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<v Speaker 3>for the next week I'd spend fifteen minutes putting the

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<v Speaker 3>gloves on because there was no way I was going

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<v Speaker 3>to spoil a ski trip. I'd never done skiing before,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm thinking, I'm not going to go to a doctor.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just silly, because you know, I can get through this.

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<v Speaker 3>So my finger was sitting out at ninety degrees and

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<v Speaker 3>it would take me all this time to put the

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<v Speaker 3>gloves on, but I wasn't going to spoil the whole day.

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<v Speaker 3>So it made me wonder, given your experiences, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure Tiff, given your experiences in the ring. What have

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<v Speaker 3>you fought through that? Ordinarily most people wouldn't. Have you

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<v Speaker 3>ever had an injury while you've been training or while

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<v Speaker 3>you've been fighting me, or.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fucking like, get comfortable if you want me to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you about my injuries. So let's not even go

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<v Speaker 2>Let's not even go to me because my body's reasonably

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<v Speaker 2>fucked already. So let's go to tiff.

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<v Speaker 5>My first amateur novice title fight. So I'd had a

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<v Speaker 5>few corporate boxing challenges and then my first novice title

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<v Speaker 5>fight I fought with a back thing going on, and

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<v Speaker 5>then after the fight, I got diagnosed with fractured stress

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<v Speaker 5>fractures in my transverse process, which is a little nodule

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<v Speaker 5>on the side of.

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<v Speaker 4>On my lumbar spine.

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<v Speaker 5>Very painful, but you know when you get when you

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<v Speaker 5>step into the ring, adrenaline masks all of that, so

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<v Speaker 5>that disappears.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got one that is a good story, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is that is being mentally tough. But mine is about

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<v Speaker 1>being mentally stupid. So when I was young, I was obsessed,

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<v Speaker 1>as you remember, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've told their stories psypologies.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to run every day, Patrick, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do it because I was disciplined. I did it because

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<v Speaker 1>I was obsessed. So I ran three hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 1>five days of the year, every day of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>I did a thousand push ups every day of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>I did a thousand sit ups every day of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>I did like two hundred chin ups. Right, And it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't because I was disciplined or had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>self control.

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<v Speaker 2>It was because I was obsessed.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I did that, it made me look better

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<v Speaker 1>and feel better, and I was addicted to the look

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<v Speaker 1>and the feeling all this shit. Right, So anyway, and

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<v Speaker 1>I also used to play footy. I played footy. I

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<v Speaker 1>fucked up my ankle really badly. They didn't have moon

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<v Speaker 1>boots back then. They were not a thing. But if

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<v Speaker 1>they had, I'd be in a moonboot anyway. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was all taped up like a mummy crutches. The instructions

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<v Speaker 1>do not weight bear for two weeks, so don't put

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<v Speaker 1>your foot on the ground. Now, this is oh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I run every day. It's like, well, no, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>run every day. You won't be running for maybe eight weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, and I'm listening to him, going, that's not happening.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, So.

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<v Speaker 1>The quicksh version is, I go home. I meant to

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<v Speaker 1>not put my foot on the ground, not even weight

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<v Speaker 1>bear a little bit for two weeks, and then slowly

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<v Speaker 1>introduce weight bearing, and then probably in about four weeks

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<v Speaker 1>start to walk, and then over time walk, jog, jog,

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<v Speaker 1>walk whatever. So I went home and I I climbed

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<v Speaker 1>out of the window of my bedroom at about ten

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock at night because I hadn't been for a run,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously left the crutches in my bedroom. Ron and

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<v Speaker 1>Mary don't know about this, so feel free to tell them.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just started walking in absolute agony. I walked

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<v Speaker 1>out from the backyard out to the front of my house,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just in my mind, I'm like, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to run, doesn't matter how painful it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I started running, and obviously it was excruciating

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<v Speaker 2>pain and I ran hobbled, ran hobbled for about.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like two hundred meters and I I

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<v Speaker 1>was fifteen, I was an idiot, right, But I'm crying.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm because I'm an addict, like this is completely ridiculous, irrational, unhealthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I walk, I'm running in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>road because I live in the country, right, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>one around. So I walked to the side of the

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<v Speaker 1>road where even though it's the country, it's it's a town.

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<v Speaker 1>It's moey, so there's gutters and shit. So I put

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<v Speaker 1>my foot in the gutter. So it was my right foot,

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<v Speaker 1>and my right foot was what's called supernated, so leaning

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<v Speaker 1>on the outside so kind of turned on that angle turned.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I walked in the gutter, the pain was

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<v Speaker 1>reduced significantly, Like I didn't even know why then I

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<v Speaker 1>know why now anyway, I'm like, oh, so it went

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<v Speaker 1>from like ten out of ten pain to like five.

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<v Speaker 1>So I tried a bit of a jog and it

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<v Speaker 1>was quite painful, obviously, but I could just jog. So

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<v Speaker 1>I spent the next month sneaking out of my bedroom

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<v Speaker 1>at night and jogging in gutters around Latroe Valley like

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking weirdo. And my right ankle, which it was,

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<v Speaker 1>has still fucked so.

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<v Speaker 2>Good work me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, normal people sneak out to me, to girlfriend, go

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<v Speaker 3>to Ao allowed to and maybe to punch someone up.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I'm trying to think of what Tiff

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<v Speaker 3>might do. But really, to run on a broken foot,

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<v Speaker 3>that's awesome, mate, Yeah, go.

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<v Speaker 2>Meet, go meet.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no by the way, there's no pride in that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the dumbest shit of all time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. When I finally went to the doctor after a

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<v Speaker 3>week of having a finger stuck in the ninety degree

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<v Speaker 3>position which was fractured, which I didn't know at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember the doctor, you know, it looked at me

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<v Speaker 3>like I was an idiot. And then at the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the consultation, I said, so, when it's healed, will

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<v Speaker 3>I be able to play the piano? And he said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>of course you will. I said, fantastic. I've never been

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<v Speaker 3>able to play the piano.

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<v Speaker 2>You're an idiot. Did you sit up last night writing that?

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<v Speaker 3>I did actually say that to him, He laughed. He

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<v Speaker 3>thought it was quite entertaining.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, talk to us about stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, I want to start with okay, can we start

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<v Speaker 1>with what's.

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<v Speaker 2>In a name? My business name sucks? Can we start there?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, look, it's funny. I was reading an article recently

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<v Speaker 3>about domain names going up in price, and I was thinking,

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<v Speaker 3>quite often when I talk to people, you've got Craig

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<v Speaker 3>Harper dot com. Att. Okay, so it's a good name.

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<v Speaker 3>It's easy to pronounce. My business name is Genesis FX. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>what a stupid name to have as a domain name.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you spell it? Is it e f f CT?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it letter F letter X? So it was. It

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<v Speaker 3>was good at the time, and it's not a Bible reference.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I just clarify. I'm a Star Trek fan, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a nerd. And it was from the second Wrath of

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<v Speaker 3>Khan movie Star Trek, The Wrath of Khn and they

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<v Speaker 3>had a Genesis device. I'm merding out. I'm just going

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<v Speaker 3>to I'm going to stop now. But anyway, so, so

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<v Speaker 3>I come up with this name.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, everyone, come back, everyone, come back. No, really, come

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<v Speaker 2>back to your phone now.

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<v Speaker 3>But I came up with the name before I before

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<v Speaker 3>I decided to, before the internet was around, so, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because I knew you then. That was a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we met. We met each other just after the

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<v Speaker 2>wheel became a thing. And fire remember when they invented fire?

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<v Speaker 2>Howpened was that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? We could actually cook out vegetables. Yeah, ah man,

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<v Speaker 3>but no, no, so got me thinking, and I just

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<v Speaker 3>thought some little trivia things about expensive typos. Right. So example,

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<v Speaker 3>in sixteen thirty one, right, an English printer accidentally left

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<v Speaker 3>out the word not in the seventh commandment, so ut

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<v Speaker 3>shalt not commit adultery became a free for all. Thou

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<v Speaker 3>shalt commit adultery? Right, So the poor blake was fined

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<v Speaker 3>by the baking Charles mind you ordered one thousand copies

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<v Speaker 3>destroyed and three thousand pounds and they revoked his Bible

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<v Speaker 3>printing license. So I guess it was the end of

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<v Speaker 3>his business. But another one NASA, Right, in nineteen sixty two,

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<v Speaker 3>NASA had a Mariner one mission to Venus, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>believed that someone writing the code put a comma in

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<v Speaker 3>the wrong spot and just after it launched they had

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<v Speaker 3>to destroy the satellite and it cost them eighty million

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<v Speaker 3>dollars in nineteen sixty two. Shit, a comma, Like a

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<v Speaker 3>comma in the code.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, can you explain to me?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe Tiff understands what that means, but what does I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, so a comma in the code.

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<v Speaker 3>The language, okay, the programming language that was used for

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<v Speaker 3>the guidance system. Because the comera is in the wrong spot.

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<v Speaker 3>So it might have been you know, you have ever

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<v Speaker 3>watched you know that the rocket launches, they start off

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<v Speaker 3>going straight and then they kind of veer to the

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<v Speaker 3>side a little bit to try to get the escape

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<v Speaker 3>velocity happening. Well, evidently the common meant that it made

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<v Speaker 3>a maneuver too early, so instead of say, it's supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to have done it at a kilometer, it did it

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<v Speaker 3>at like one hundred meters something along those lines. But

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<v Speaker 3>if effectively, it meant they had to destroy this eighty

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<v Speaker 3>million dollars satellite that was supposed to be going to Venus.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the first satellite of the first mission ever

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<v Speaker 3>to Venus. So yeah, that was that could be.

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<v Speaker 1>The most expensive typo in the history of typo's.

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty good, isn't it. Yeah, Yeah, for sure, it happens.

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<v Speaker 3>Macy's did this promotion. That's the the I guess the supermarket.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's more than a Saon.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they're like a They're kind of our version of

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<v Speaker 1>Myers or yeah. Yeah, yeah, like a big department store.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well again, same thing. Someone's put in a diamond

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<v Speaker 3>necklace for the wrong price a typo and they had

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<v Speaker 3>to honor it. So in twenty thirteen, fifteen hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 3>diamond necklaces went for forty seven bucks and they all

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<v Speaker 3>got sold out.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh yeah, isn't that Oh god, yeah, well someone

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<v Speaker 1>someone's getting in trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah. And the other one that I thought was

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<v Speaker 3>interesting was in twenty ten, Penguin Australia published a past

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<v Speaker 3>a Bible and someone in mistakingly instead of putting salt

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<v Speaker 3>and freshly ground pepper, they put salt and freshly ground

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<v Speaker 3>black people instead of black pepper. They put black people

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<v Speaker 3>black people black pepper, and so they had to it

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<v Speaker 3>was a twenty thousand dollar mistakes. So they had to

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<v Speaker 3>get rid of the pulp seven thousand copies of of

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<v Speaker 3>the past the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that would have been more than a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that is that is terrible?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, pretty bad? Huh yeah, go and look the other thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And then what got me thinking about this also is

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<v Speaker 3>because domain names. One of the worst domain names is

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<v Speaker 3>because when you've got a domain name, there's no gaps

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<v Speaker 3>and so the words run together, and sometimes people forget

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<v Speaker 3>that running the words together can make other words.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just pause you for one sec. There's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be twenty percent of our listeners who are who

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<v Speaker 1>aren't thirty years old, who are going what's a domain name?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh really? Okay, so www dot craigharper dot net. That's

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<v Speaker 3>a domain name. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like like what we non tech people might

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<v Speaker 1>call like a web.

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<v Speaker 3>Address, right web address? Yeah, exactly, the dub dub dub.

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<v Speaker 3>So in this instance, if you think of the word therapist,

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<v Speaker 3>the problem is when you put therapist into a domain name,

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<v Speaker 3>it can be the rapist, not therapy. So that's there's

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<v Speaker 3>there's some problems when you're thinking about registering a domain name.

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<v Speaker 3>Is join all the words together and see what it spells.

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<v Speaker 3>There's some classically funny examples and some tragically bad examples

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<v Speaker 3>of words that get run together. And you've got to

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<v Speaker 3>call one of my clients. I shouldn't say this, I guess,

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<v Speaker 3>because he's a client, but I've got to tell you anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>He's in the United States. So his name is Fred

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<v Speaker 3>Winn and a lot of Americans like to use their

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<v Speaker 3>middle initial and so when he was he's an author,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's actually a really interesting guy. He worked in

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<v Speaker 3>the prison system for years and years and years, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's been involved in the Black Lives Matter. Really lovely guy.

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<v Speaker 3>His name is Fred A. Win and I pointed out

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<v Speaker 3>to him that if you put that in a domain name,

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<v Speaker 3>it becomes freeda win, not read a wig, because there's

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<v Speaker 3>no full stops. And so when you went to Registeres Demain,

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<v Speaker 3>I said, you know that if we put your name

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<v Speaker 3>in as Freda a win, it's going to be freeda win.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, he went with it because that's his name,

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<v Speaker 3>fred Awin.

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<v Speaker 2>But now I think I think Freda's got an eye

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<v Speaker 2>in it?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it advice to leaders Freda though?

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<v Speaker 1>But back back to your point about the rapist. I

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<v Speaker 1>had a friend. I met a guy who came into

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<v Speaker 1>one of the gyms I was working out. His name

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<v Speaker 1>was Norbert Vonzumhoff right, what German? Yeah, Norbert monhim half right,

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Normady if he's around. We used to

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<v Speaker 1>call him normal anyway. He'd only been out from Germany

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<v Speaker 1>for not long. He was a level ten gymnast. Moved

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<v Speaker 1>to Australia. Him and I started just working out together. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>One day we were out and we were walking along

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<v Speaker 1>and there was a physiotherapist right sign physio and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is physio?

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<v Speaker 2>The rapist? So same thing?

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<v Speaker 3>What is?

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<v Speaker 2>He goes Craig, what is Physio the Rapist? And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like what. He goes, Physio the Rapist? What is it?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like what And then he points to the sign.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go, oh fuck, that's physiotherapist bro. And he's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>do you O the Rapist? I'm like, no, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>a the just it's this. Yeah, I get it. But

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, So getting your domain name and not accidentally

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:14.000
<v Speaker 1>getting something you don't want as a challenge, right.

0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:17.600
<v Speaker 3>Some advice for you, So think carefully because you're stuck

0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:18.680
<v Speaker 3>with it for a long time.

0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Like one of the things that you do is build

0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:24.600
<v Speaker 1>websites and do you get domain names for people and stuff.

0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:26.320
<v Speaker 3>For yea, yeah, yeah, do all that sort of stuff.

0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:29.240
<v Speaker 3>So it's kind of like, I mean, it makes sense.

0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:32.080
<v Speaker 3>It's all those bits and pieces that all slot together.

0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:33.920
<v Speaker 3>So the first part is trying to get the right

0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:36.920
<v Speaker 3>domain name and really thinking about things that are spelt

0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:40.800
<v Speaker 3>and how people see them as being spelt as well.

0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:43.080
<v Speaker 3>You know, do you put the number one or do

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:47.000
<v Speaker 3>you have one? So if it was Craig Harper number

0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:49.480
<v Speaker 3>one trainer, would you have the number one or would

0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:52.040
<v Speaker 3>you have So sometimes you've got to register more than

0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:54.000
<v Speaker 3>one domain name to make sure you get both. Does

0:23:54.080 --> 0:23:54.760
<v Speaker 3>that makes sense?

0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, well I remember when.

0:23:57.600 --> 0:24:00.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sometimes I think I don't know MELI did all that,

0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:03.560
<v Speaker 1>but I think craigharba dot net. We've also got craigharba

0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:08.320
<v Speaker 1>dot org, dot dot net, AU dot net without the

0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:12.600
<v Speaker 1>au dot just in case, you know, other people use it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a bad idea. It's brand protection because you know,

0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:17.280
<v Speaker 3>one of the exciting things. I thought it was exciting,

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:19.639
<v Speaker 3>but a lot of people were skeptical about it. So

0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:23.959
<v Speaker 3>the official domain registrar in Australia is called outer au

0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:27.240
<v Speaker 3>DA and it's a not for comforit organization that manages

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<v Speaker 3>all the domain names in Australia, so all the dubdub

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:33.000
<v Speaker 3>dubs that have an AU extension. So a dot com

0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:35.960
<v Speaker 3>is American, dot UK is UK dot NZ as New

0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:40.200
<v Speaker 3>Zealand Australia's are AU. But what they did was one

0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:43.000
<v Speaker 3>of the problems with that was you you needed to

0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:45.560
<v Speaker 3>have an ABN or an acn C, needed to be

0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:48.960
<v Speaker 3>a registered business to register a dot com dot AU

0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 3>and it left a lot of people, maybe hobbyists or

0:24:52.600 --> 0:24:55.680
<v Speaker 3>enthusiasts who don't have a company or a business structure.

0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:58.359
<v Speaker 3>So a few years ago they released what they called

0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 3>AU Direct, so you could register tiff Cook dot au

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 3>and because it didn't have the dot com dot Au,

0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:08.960
<v Speaker 3>you could just register it. As long as you're an

0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 3>Australian citizen and you can prove you're an Australian, then

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:14.720
<v Speaker 3>you're entitled to have an AU direct domain name, which

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 3>is great because it meant that people, because I think

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:20.920
<v Speaker 3>it instills a lot more confidence. When I'm shopping online

0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:23.880
<v Speaker 3>and I want an Australian company, I will I'm more

0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:27.240
<v Speaker 3>likely and this has been proven people are more likely

0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:30.479
<v Speaker 3>to be confident in an a dot com dot au

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:33.760
<v Speaker 3>domain name than are just a dot com domain name.

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 3>Do you find that tip when you go shopping or

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:39.000
<v Speaker 3>looking online that you look for the AU extension. I

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:40.640
<v Speaker 3>know it's something that I certainly do.

0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:43.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if i'm yeah, if I'm buying online, I do.

0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:46.879
<v Speaker 3>M because it means a that they're Australian business and

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:48.879
<v Speaker 3>it's and then the hurdles are a little bit harder

0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 3>to cross anyway. Anybody can register a dot com, but

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 3>you have to have an a b N or an ACN,

0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 3>so you've got to be an Australian business to get

0:25:56.800 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 3>that dot com dot AU extension.

0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:01.480
<v Speaker 2>I remember, correct me if I'm wrong.

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this has changed, but there was

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<v Speaker 1>a real time, mate, where people would kind of try

0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 1>to anticipate what might be big, and they'd register a

0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:14.159
<v Speaker 1>bunch of you know, web addresses or domain names. So

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:18.360
<v Speaker 1>let's say, for example, you had a YouTube channel, Patrick

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:22.119
<v Speaker 1>Bonello fucking Live and it started to boom, and like

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:25.960
<v Speaker 1>you're sitting at four million followers, and I go, I

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:28.159
<v Speaker 1>wonder if he's got a website, and I realized you

0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:30.679
<v Speaker 1>don't have a website, so I go, fuckety fuck. So

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 1>I register Patrick Bonello dot everything and then I've got

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:38.440
<v Speaker 1>a monopoly on that. Then I then you go, hey mate,

0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm actually Patrick Bonello.

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 2>I want that?

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Can I buy it? And I go, sure, thirty grand?

0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:46.840
<v Speaker 1>So that was happening for a while, Wasn't it a lot?

0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 3>It still does happen in the dot com space. That's

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 3>such a good question, because I'd looked to register my

0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:56.679
<v Speaker 3>family's surname. I'm talking when I knew you all that

0:26:56.760 --> 0:27:00.920
<v Speaker 3>time out and in America had registered it as a

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:04.639
<v Speaker 3>dot com and he wanted two thousand dollars for it.

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:06.680
<v Speaker 3>It's like, I don't want to pay two thousand dollars

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 3>for that. I don't know what it'd be like now

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:14.200
<v Speaker 3>now that I'm super Yeah, But the thing is that's

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:17.959
<v Speaker 3>so that's called cyber squatting, and you can if you

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 3>can find a dot com, anybody can buy one. And

0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 3>that again comes down to why it's less likely in

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 3>Australia because you have to have the ABN. And I

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 3>had one of my this happened to one of my

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:32.879
<v Speaker 3>clients where they bought a business from somebody, but the

0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:36.399
<v Speaker 3>person who registered the domain name of the business was

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 3>a marketing person and she relinquished the domain name and

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:43.080
<v Speaker 3>then somebody snapped it up so their own domain name

0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:46.160
<v Speaker 3>they didn't have access to, and so we appealed that

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 3>to the official authority outer and they relinquished it to

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 3>them because the person who registered it had no claim

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:55.440
<v Speaker 3>to that name. And that's where the protection is in Australia.

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 3>So someone registered create craigharper dot au, which is the

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 3>day Au direct extension, which Melissa may not have registered. Quick,

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 3>everybody have a look and see if it's there. So

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:09.120
<v Speaker 3>if I went and registered it because I thought, oh

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:11.920
<v Speaker 3>now harps hasn't got that one. I'm going to register

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 3>it and see if I can sell it to him. Well,

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 3>you have claim to be able to go back and say, well, no,

0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:21.159
<v Speaker 3>this is my name, it's my brand and you have

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:22.919
<v Speaker 3>to give it to me. And if ow to the

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 3>Australian authority, demain authority, says he actually, you know what

0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:29.400
<v Speaker 3>it is, his name, we'll relinquish it and then you'll

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 3>be able to snap it up and go and get it.

0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:32.679
<v Speaker 2>Patrick.

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:35.359
<v Speaker 1>You know how the kids use that term balling, Like

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 1>if people are doing great, they're balling.

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Have you heard that? Or no, I'm too old, Tiff.

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Have you heard that? No? Really?

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So like if someone's a baller, they're fucking crushing it,

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:47.000
<v Speaker 1>they're killing it.

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, look at Patrick, he's looking it up.

0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm looking up your domain.

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 1>There's two people on my show other than me, and

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 1>they're both fucking typing on their computers.

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Everyone.

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 4>I was just chicking roll with the punches.

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 5>Dot com is available for for a steal at twenty

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 5>four eighty eight usd ah.

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 1>You should definitely buy that. I might buy it and

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>give it to you for Christmas. I don't know how

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 1>i'd wrap it anyway. I was going to say something hilarious,

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 1>but you two unlike me when I support your rap,

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 1>like me when.

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 2>You're going off at a tangent.

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I pretend I'm interested, but you too just fucking type

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 1>on your computers.

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:29.680
<v Speaker 2>Hey, everybody, you don't understand the pressure I work under here.

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 3>Have freeball.

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 1>No, Hey, I'm an only child. That's your chances coming

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 1>gone track.

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 3>Hey, Craigo, just say you know. If you want, anybody

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:44.280
<v Speaker 3>out there wants to register Craig's domain name, you can

0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 3>register Craigharper dot Sydney dot Melbourne, dot NZ, dot co

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 3>dot NZ, dot org Au dot org, dot I dot online,

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 3>dot site dot tech. There is a stack, mate, You're screwed.

0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 3>Everyone's going to have a Craigharper website by don't.

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm so mad at you.

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 3>Patrick, to be so mad.

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:09.960
<v Speaker 2>If she could find a way to fucking bland, she'd

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 2>poke you in your piece, Tiff.

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Only Tiff comes and visits me in bla.

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 4>She's when it's minus five degrees. Give stuff. Yeah, good

0:30:19.720 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 4>points for summertime.

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Patrick.

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, seeing as you're a person who helps

0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>people with websites and business, and you should.

0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 2>You should like.

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Give away a website or not a website, a domain. Like,

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>if somebody's thinking of starting their business, can they reach

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 1>out to you, and you, out of the generosity of

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 1>your heart, give them a free domain?

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, I will. I'll give them a free domain. Yeah, seriously,

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 3>I will. Yeah, if you're thinking of setting up business,

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 3>we'll talk about what you're going to register, and I

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 3>will register it for you and give it to you.

0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:57.840
<v Speaker 3>That's two years. If it's a dot com today year,

0:30:57.880 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 3>you can register for two years and I'll give it to.

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 1>Just make make sure you go with the one that

0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Tiff that just said that's twenty twenty.

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Four grand, go with that one.

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I think there might be an asterisk next to this offer.

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 1>But what if it's like Patrick, what if there's like

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 1>five people who contact you?

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 2>What are you just going to turn away for all?

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 3>Right, I'll do five. That's it. The ceiling is okay,

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 3>I can't. I love how we spending my money. Tip.

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:22.600
<v Speaker 2>What if there's a hundred.

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:26.959
<v Speaker 5>Give away a service he's asking you to pay for

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 5>a sent it cost you money?

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is exactly what I'm doing LS the challenge there,

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 3>you get it. Five.

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm all about my audience.

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 3>I will give away five domain names. I'm rising to

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 3>the challenge.

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 2>There you go, five domain names.

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 1>And so all right, and how do people contact you

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 1>if they want one of those domain Now?

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:55.720
<v Speaker 2>Already it sounds very much like a setup. This wasn't planned.

0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 2>This is not a setup, but it sounds like it.

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 2>So how do people reach out?

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 3>Also, we're talking you, Patrick is broke.

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is the worst podcast of all time because

0:32:08.520 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 1>we're all fucking talking over each other. I apologize listeners.

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm probably the worst offender. Can people actually, at no

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:17.680
<v Speaker 1>extra cost talk.

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 2>To you on the phone?

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Of course I love talking to people, haven't. It's

0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 3>get him any shut ups the problem?

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:29.440
<v Speaker 2>All right? So all right just repeat? Okay, So how

0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 2>do they reach out to you? Do they phone you?

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Do they email you? Do they drive to your house?

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:36.959
<v Speaker 3>They can flat Oh, they can command of coffee. Well,

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 3>they got to pay for the coffee, though, if you

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 3>want to come to the land, you're gonna buy me

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 3>coffee at the very least, I reckon. But no website websites, noow,

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 3>dot com dot au. You've got all my contact details.

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 3>You can even come and pat Fritz and we'll go

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 3>for a walk. With Fritz that would be nice.

0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:55.720
<v Speaker 1>And Patrick, if you get up there at three am,

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Patrick will be in his dick togs and his gloves.

0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 1>And because who's doing a ten minute cold walk every day?

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 3>Do you reckon web?

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Chance? Tip puts up a hand like she's at school.

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 4>A good question that the listeners are dying to know.

0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 4>The answerity.

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 5>Is the starting price range for a basic website by you?

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:17.280
<v Speaker 4>Patrick?

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 3>Okay, it's actually a really good question. If you were

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 3>doing a really basic website. I think you're probably looking

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 3>at about say twelve hundred to fifteen hundred dollars for

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:29.320
<v Speaker 3>a basic site, and that includes hosting for twelve months.

0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:32.200
<v Speaker 3>That's a good question. Is the starting price I guess

0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 3>is what you'd be looking at, And it really depends

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 3>because it's how big is a piece of string. But

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 3>one of the things I've always thought about, and this

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 3>is another piece of advice, if you are looking for

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 3>a website and you're speaking to somebody, not just me,

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 3>but if you're speaking to someone, make sure you reachister

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 3>the domain name in your business name, make sure that

0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 3>you have control over the website and basic instructions on

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 3>how to update it. Because the thing is one of

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 3>the catches that sometimes happens with websites is someone will

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:00.240
<v Speaker 3>design it and then you've got to go back to

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 3>them for every single change, and every time they change it,

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 3>they charge you. So I've take the fish in an approach,

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, give them a fishing ride and teach them

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:10.400
<v Speaker 3>how to fish. And that way people can make the

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 3>changes and all that's themselves. So you know, if you've

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 3>got a ten page or a five page or a

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 3>one page site, but you want to add more content

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:18.840
<v Speaker 3>and do it yourself, then you should be able to

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:21.319
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. That's do you update your

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:22.320
<v Speaker 3>own site? Don't you? Tif?

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I do. I was just lat thing because I

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:25.359
<v Speaker 4>was like, is that a trick?

0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:25.880
<v Speaker 3>Now? Is that?

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 5>So they get in the back end ruin everything and

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 5>then you actually make more to fix the Nah? No,

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:33.879
<v Speaker 5>we do.

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 2>We do.

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 3>We back up every day. So we always say to

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 3>people if your balls up your website, if you break it,

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 3>we'll just roll it back to the day before.

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it happens, you need your back end addressed, just

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 1>contact Patrick.

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 2>All right, So is there any I mean that's the

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 2>take time, isn't it.

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:56.359
<v Speaker 2>So is there any chance we could do some tech tech,

0:34:56.760 --> 0:34:59.840
<v Speaker 2>some tech Yeah, well any chance.

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't want to fucking throw a spanner

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 1>in your sales pitch. You're overt shameless sales pitch that

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 1>you're clearly ran tip before the show said ah, hey

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 1>could you ask this but make it sound like we

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 1>haven't organized it. That was shameless. Tell us some tech news.

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 2>Earn your money, will you?

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 3>Okay, we're going to make some money now to pay

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:25.879
<v Speaker 3>for those bloody domain names I've just flogged off. Hey

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:28.399
<v Speaker 3>I'm Tesla owners. Okay, there's a lot of Tesla news

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 3>out at the moment because there's a group in Australia

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 3>that are looking at doing a class action against Tesla

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 3>because there's suggestions that sometimes they will break, So Tesla

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:45.239
<v Speaker 3>owners are looking for some competition. They're talking about potentially

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 3>hazardous situation if the car suddenly breaks and you didn't

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 3>hit the brake.

0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 2>So ah, you're talking about br A K E.

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:59.240
<v Speaker 1>And I were thinking break occasionally breaks.

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:01.240
<v Speaker 3>And some breaking.

0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Sorry gall listen to what I said.

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were saying break, Yeah, as in the

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:09.880
<v Speaker 1>car breaks.

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:14.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh sorry, it breaks and breaks down? Yes, breaking, No,

0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:15.240
<v Speaker 3>we're talking about.

0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:19.280
<v Speaker 2>You mean it like it applies. The breaks randomly.

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:21.239
<v Speaker 3>Right during autopilot mode.

0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:23.280
<v Speaker 2>Mike, I'm thinking this is not a big story.

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:27.760
<v Speaker 3>All cars fucking break when you're in cruise control autopilot mode.

0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:32.279
<v Speaker 3>The car can rapidly decelerate for no reason. This is

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 3>allegations that are floating around, and they're trying to get

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 3>a class action. So it's happening at the moment. Tesler

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:40.319
<v Speaker 3>owners are being asked to sign to this class action

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:42.160
<v Speaker 3>and they're looking to take it to the federal court

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 3>later this year. But evidently thousands of Tesla owners are

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:48.799
<v Speaker 3>into this. And the interesting thing is that just this

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 3>week in Austin, Texas, the first robotaxis hit the road.

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:56.400
<v Speaker 3>I think about eight or twenty, sorry, between ten and

0:36:56.480 --> 0:37:01.759
<v Speaker 3>twenty robotaxis. So robotaxis, we have no driver. You get

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:04.319
<v Speaker 3>in the cab, you sit in the back, you tell

0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 3>them the destination or you verbally say it, I guess,

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 3>and then you press a button to start and the

0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:12.520
<v Speaker 3>taxi takes off. Now they've got real drivers sitting on

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:16.240
<v Speaker 3>the right hand side, so the passeng the driver's seats empty,

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 3>and they have monitoring drivers for safety. At the moment,

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:21.240
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what they're going to do, just scream

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:24.760
<v Speaker 3>more as they ram into something. But I've been watching

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 3>some because I have watching some YouTube videos of people

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:30.839
<v Speaker 3>getting into taxis and then drive it around. But evidently

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 3>there's been concerns because they're driving erradically. There was an

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 3>instance where there was some police parked on the side

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 3>of the road and the car suddenly breaked. There was

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:42.480
<v Speaker 3>another instance where a car turned and went into the

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 3>wrong lane. I don't know how comfortable you guys would

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:49.440
<v Speaker 3>be getting into a robotaxi with no one behind the wheel,

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:50.319
<v Speaker 3>would you?

0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I definitely would. I don't know why I'm excited to. Yeah,

0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 1>I'd love that shit ah once. I mean, if there

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 1>was one in how Hampton and it would take me

0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:03.719
<v Speaker 1>into the city drop me off for a speaking gig,

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I'd fucking jump in in five minutes.

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:07.360
<v Speaker 3>Have you ever heard of uber?

0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to. I'd rather sit in the car

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:14.920
<v Speaker 2>with no one just snob.

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I'm about to.

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 2>I want some quiet time before I'm with all the humans.

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:26.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to talk to old mate.

0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:28.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I will talk to old mate if he

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:32.759
<v Speaker 1>or she is there. But yeah, but no, would you not?

0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:34.759
<v Speaker 1>Tif would you not get in a driverless car?

0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 5>Not? After hearing what is going on with Tesla.

0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:41.879
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I'm a bit dubious. It's a it's

0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 4>a bit scary.

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I mean I would.

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 1>But also with the advent of yeah, autonomous cars or

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:54.759
<v Speaker 1>whatever driverless cars down the track, when they're proven to

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 1>be safer than driver cars, I'd gladly sit in the

0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:01.239
<v Speaker 1>car and let it take Ron and Mary while I

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:03.840
<v Speaker 1>do some work in the back seat, maybe watch a

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:04.480
<v Speaker 1>rom com.

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:06.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, fucking have a snooze.

0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:09.280
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot to be said though, in all honesty,

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 3>if you had all the vehicles on the road as autonomous,

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:16.239
<v Speaker 3>we would probably reduce traffic by so much. Would think

0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:19.800
<v Speaker 3>about why people slow, you know, there's so many studies

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:23.840
<v Speaker 3>into the patterns of people when they're driving. You know,

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:26.399
<v Speaker 3>for example, if there's something on the side of the road,

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 3>anyone rubbernecks and they slow down to check out, Well,

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:34.160
<v Speaker 3>that wouldn't happen in a ROBOTAXI. So, I know we've

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:36.359
<v Speaker 3>spoken about this on the show. But you know in

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:40.480
<v Speaker 3>the tunnel underneath in Melbourne they have the Domain Tunnel,

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 3>right they have. Have you seen those green bands of

0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:47.240
<v Speaker 3>light that are projected on the side of the wall.

0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I have not because I don't go under the tunnel,

0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:52.400
<v Speaker 1>but I believe you.

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 3>So this was this is a really interesting project. What

0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:59.080
<v Speaker 3>they did was they looked at the flow of traffic

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:02.640
<v Speaker 3>and because people are going through a tunnel, there's no

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 3>horizon as such, or it's very difficult to gauge when

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:07.880
<v Speaker 3>you're going up and down. And what they found was

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:11.760
<v Speaker 3>as people were going up, their speed started to drop.

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:14.919
<v Speaker 3>And what was happening is there was a slow down

0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 3>in traffic. So they came up with this idea of

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 3>having these moving green bands that are projected onto the wall,

0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 3>and they found that people subconsciously keep up with the bands,

0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:28.719
<v Speaker 3>and the bands are just automatically to the traffic flow.

0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:30.759
<v Speaker 3>So if there's a lot of traffic but they can

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:33.279
<v Speaker 3>see a pattern, they will speed up a little bit

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 3>to be safe. But it means people will actually speed

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:39.279
<v Speaker 3>speed up, not speed up, sorry, not speed, but they

0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 3>will increase their speed to match the bands or the movement.

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:45.279
<v Speaker 3>And it's been designed in such a way that it's

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 3>for the optimum flow of traffic. So the generated light

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:52.320
<v Speaker 3>on the side of the wall will adjust based on

0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 3>the amount of traffic flow to make it d make

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:56.759
<v Speaker 3>people drive more efficiently.

0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if, well, that's fascinating, is and that's very

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:03.879
<v Speaker 2>interesting science. I wonder who figured that out? So thank

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:06.200
<v Speaker 2>you for telling me that. That is fucking fascinating.

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 1>But I wonder if so what they're doing is manipulating

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 1>people without telling people they're manipulating them. Great, I wonder ethically.

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Etceter like. I don't give a fuck. I think it's clever,

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 2>but I just wonder if some people are going to go.

0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh, nobody consented or nobody consulted us, and you're manipulating

0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 1>my driving or my mind with these things that you

0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:29.839
<v Speaker 1>didn't ask me if like, I wonder that. But yeah,

0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:34.600
<v Speaker 1>that's fascinating. The way that our environment can control our

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:37.399
<v Speaker 1>thinking and our behavior is crazy, and it.

0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:39.160
<v Speaker 3>Does make a lot of sense. When you think about

0:41:39.200 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 3>being in a tunnel, you do lose all perspective. This

0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Speaker 3>is slightly similar when you paraglide. I've done a little

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:50.040
<v Speaker 3>bit of paragliding when and this is going to sound

0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:52.319
<v Speaker 3>so strange, but when you're at a certain height and

0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 3>you're paragliding, you don't know if you're going up or

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:58.759
<v Speaker 3>down because there's no term of reference. And so when

0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 3>you fly, you have a device. It's called a variometer,

0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:04.720
<v Speaker 3>and it gives you these audible signals. So it'll increase

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:07.200
<v Speaker 3>in pitch if you're going up, decrease in pitch if

0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:09.840
<v Speaker 3>you're going down. Because when you're flying and you're in

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:12.560
<v Speaker 3>the sky, you've got no term of reference. You don't

0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 3>have trees, you can't see the trees, you can't see

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:18.440
<v Speaker 3>hills and things because you're so high. So really our

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:21.160
<v Speaker 3>brain is fascinating, but also it can play tricks on

0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:24.520
<v Speaker 3>us as well. And you'd think going up or down

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:26.920
<v Speaker 3>would be such an easy thing to know. And hence

0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 3>in the tunnel, going up an incline without any term

0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 3>of reference is actually slowing the traffic down. I love

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 3>that sort of stuff. It's so interesting.

0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you don't really I guess, when you're in space,

0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:41.719
<v Speaker 1>like you're in open space and there's no ground and

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:45.759
<v Speaker 1>there's no walls or no proximal ground or walls, you

0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:50.400
<v Speaker 1>lose kind of context. You know, there's like, oh, yeah,

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:51.800
<v Speaker 1>can I just be clear?

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:52.520
<v Speaker 2>I think I know.

0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:57.280
<v Speaker 1>A paraglide is like a parachute, but it's motorized or no.

0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:59.440
<v Speaker 3>No, a paragly it looks like a parachute, but it's

0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:03.160
<v Speaker 3>much it's just a big wing, so we call them

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:07.040
<v Speaker 3>a big giant parachute, and it has a lot of

0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 3>control lines coming down onto it and break lines, and

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 3>it's the biggest surface area than a parachute. So the

0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:15.319
<v Speaker 3>idea is that you can generate lift if you hit

0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:18.040
<v Speaker 3>a thermal or if you've got an updraft. So if

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:22.200
<v Speaker 3>you're flying inland, then you thermal. So often you'll see

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:25.520
<v Speaker 3>eagles taking advantage of a thermal. So it's a sunny

0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:28.840
<v Speaker 3>day and you'll see an eagle just adjusting its wings

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:32.600
<v Speaker 3>and going up, spiraling up because they've hit a thermal updraft.

0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:35.680
<v Speaker 3>So the heat can cause what they call an updraft

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:38.520
<v Speaker 3>of air and means that a bird's birds are great

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:40.239
<v Speaker 3>at this. They take advantage of it. They don't have

0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:42.320
<v Speaker 3>to flap their wings, they just go up the updraft.

0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:44.799
<v Speaker 3>And you can do that in a paraglider, whereas on

0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 3>the coast you use what they call, you know, the

0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:51.160
<v Speaker 3>onshore breeze. Hitting a cliff will cause an updraft of

0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:53.759
<v Speaker 3>wind and then you can fly along the edge the

0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 3>ridge of a cliff and get lift from that. So

0:43:57.640 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 3>you basically can ride fly up and down the coast

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:02.920
<v Speaker 3>without descending and you get a good old flight out

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 3>of it.

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 2>You're much braver than I thought, because there's fucking no

0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:11.319
<v Speaker 2>chance I would do that. Really, I am no. Do

0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 2>I look like a bird? Have you seen any wings

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:17.359
<v Speaker 2>on me? As if I'm doing that? That's like, oh,

0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:19.680
<v Speaker 2>zero chance, Tiff? Would you do that?

0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:20.879
<v Speaker 3>I think?

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Would you jump off a fucking cliff with that over

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:24.879
<v Speaker 2>your head?

0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 5>I bet more people die in road accidents than they

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 5>do Paragliardi And you're you'll get in a driverless car,

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:33.239
<v Speaker 5>but not in the sky.

0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll also get on a motorbike that goes north to

0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:38.719
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and two seconds and have the best time ever.

0:44:38.760 --> 0:44:42.480
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know. Hang on, hang on, hang on,

0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:45.240
<v Speaker 2>why do you Why would you do it? Tiff?

0:44:46.239 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 4>I think I'd love the feeling of that.

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:52.440
<v Speaker 5>But then again, when you were talking about that perception

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:55.600
<v Speaker 5>under the under the tunnel, I was thinking of it's

0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 5>the same in a helicopter, and that ship was terrifying

0:44:58.640 --> 0:44:59.319
<v Speaker 5>to adjust to.

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 4>I think I'm not sure. Have to try it and

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:03.680
<v Speaker 4>see if it.

0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 2>If you were standing under me while I was paraguiding

0:45:07.000 --> 0:45:10.640
<v Speaker 2>and be like, oh what's that? Oh that's W that's

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 2>just W coming from jumbo that's just.

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:17.600
<v Speaker 3>Can I just say, with all respect to both of you,

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:20.840
<v Speaker 3>I have more chance of jumping off a cliff with

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:22.960
<v Speaker 3>a piece of fabric over me than stepping in the

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<v Speaker 3>ring and having someone bash the shit out of me

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<v Speaker 3>or get on the back of a bike with you again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I'm talking about fear non statistics like you're

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<v Speaker 1>being rational.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, I'm talking about being shit scared on the

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<v Speaker 3>back of the bike with you threading your way in

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<v Speaker 3>around traffic and also getting into a boxing ring. That's scared.

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<v Speaker 3>That's scared of shit out of me? Troll though, Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just ask statistically how many times have I died?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go zero. It's a very fucking safe bet.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's safe jumping off with a piece of fabric

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<v Speaker 3>that it is getting on your driving through traffic.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you have any evidence to support that

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<v Speaker 1>claim because my deaths are zero. Number of deaths in paragliding, Patrick,

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<v Speaker 1>give us another story, talk about something different other than

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<v Speaker 1>Tesla's and fucking me weiing while I'm on a parachute.

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<v Speaker 2>If you could just go somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, can I do one more electric car story?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I'm excited about it. Yeah, of course, Huiwei. Huiwei

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<v Speaker 3>the telephone Chinese telephone company aims to have developed a battery,

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<v Speaker 3>a solid state battery with a range of three thousand kilometers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and doesn't it charge in five minutes or something?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I saw that.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, Oh, this is Patrick's going to get a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking hard on when he reads this. You won't be

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<v Speaker 1>able to focus now. So did you read that and

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<v Speaker 1>you just couldn't concentrate.

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<v Speaker 2>For the morning?

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<v Speaker 3>I was pretty yes, So can you just explain?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you don't know, I definitely don't know. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>say a solid state battery? What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Look? To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what they're

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<v Speaker 3>doing with theirs, because Mercedes has been doing a similar

0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:21.080
<v Speaker 3>experiment and they have what they're calling a solid state battery.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's something about look at the because we're using

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<v Speaker 3>lithium ion batteries at the moment. Okay, that's the lithium ion,

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<v Speaker 3>but a solid stop. I should probably feel like I

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<v Speaker 3>should know more about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Than can you?

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<v Speaker 3>Can you solid.

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<v Speaker 1>Go into chatters and go what is a solid state battery?

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<v Speaker 1>While Patrick and I keep talking? But what about Patrick,

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<v Speaker 1>what about the practical, Like how amazing would it be

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<v Speaker 1>that you could charge that in five minutes, which is

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<v Speaker 1>analogous to putting petrol in your car in five minutes

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<v Speaker 1>and then drive for I mean even if you do

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred kilometers a week, that's six weeks of driving

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<v Speaker 1>on a five minute charge.

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<v Speaker 3>It's mind blowing, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what sort of infrastructure you'd need, or

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<v Speaker 3>whether you could charge at existing charging stations. That's the

0:48:06.560 --> 0:48:09.920
<v Speaker 3>other question is whether you'd have to update all of

0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:13.680
<v Speaker 3>the infrastructure. But yeah, such a game changer, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>particularly in Australia. And one of the big things here

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<v Speaker 3>in Australia is that it is expensive to buy into

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<v Speaker 3>an electric car and if you want more range, if

0:48:22.560 --> 0:48:26.440
<v Speaker 3>you live out where I live and you're doing longer trips,

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:31.360
<v Speaker 3>then the range anxiety has been the biggest hurdled the

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<v Speaker 3>uptake of electric cars. Price is also problematic, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think BYD we talked about this recently. Are about to

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<v Speaker 3>release a kind of a budget car price tag that

0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:44.919
<v Speaker 3>they're selling them for in China. Is it around about

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<v Speaker 3>the equivalent of twelve thousand Australian dollars? Is not selling

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<v Speaker 3>them for even if they land here in Australia, with

0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:54.640
<v Speaker 3>imports and all that sort of stuff, you could be

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<v Speaker 3>looking at a sub twenty thousand dollars electric car.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's incredible toif what do you got for us?

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<v Speaker 5>Traditional lithium ion battery is liquid or gel electrolyte, flammable,

0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:09.600
<v Speaker 5>anti aging prone, and not super energy dense. Solid state

0:49:09.640 --> 0:49:14.400
<v Speaker 5>batteries are solid electrolyte, often ceramic glass polymer based, more stable,

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<v Speaker 5>less flammable, and higher energy density.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder well, I think also Patrick, like you were

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<v Speaker 1>kind of wondering, which I agree, how much like would

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<v Speaker 1>if that, if that can draw and contain, for one

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<v Speaker 1>of the better descriptions, so much energy so quickly, I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder what, yeah, what that would need to plug into.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not you're not going to plug that into your

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<v Speaker 1>two forty vault socket in the garage.

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<v Speaker 2>AA.

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<v Speaker 3>You might have drived to Mouey to the power station there.

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<v Speaker 1>You might have to plug in, plug into one of

0:49:53.480 --> 0:49:55.520
<v Speaker 1>those great big towers at the SEC.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's that's said. Though that's optimum charging, you still

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<v Speaker 3>should be able to trickle charge it, so you still

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<v Speaker 3>might do an overnight charge. On a conventional charging system,

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<v Speaker 3>it would take longer, but if you're getting that three

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<v Speaker 3>thousand kilometer range, it wouldn't matter so much because you

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<v Speaker 3>just do it overnight.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, as we walk out the door, let's have one

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<v Speaker 1>more conversation about cars, because let's not start a new topic. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>do electric cars make people more car sick?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? This is an interesting little story that I saw

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<v Speaker 3>and it makes sense. I am a person who does

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<v Speaker 3>and had as a child, got terribly, terribly sick when

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<v Speaker 3>I was in a car, and for some reason, the

0:50:39.800 --> 0:50:43.319
<v Speaker 3>old what was the big boxy hold and I'm trying

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<v Speaker 3>to think friends of ours had an.

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<v Speaker 2>Old HR or eh yep.

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<v Speaker 3>So when I sat in the back of that, within

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<v Speaker 3>the first thirty seconds I would be car sick. And

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<v Speaker 3>then someone explained to me the reason for that is

0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:59.880
<v Speaker 3>the suspension rolled. So it was luck you're in a boat.

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<v Speaker 3>And with a lot of the new electric cars, the

0:51:04.200 --> 0:51:09.160
<v Speaker 3>acceleration is different, the deceleration is different, and so what's

0:51:09.200 --> 0:51:12.960
<v Speaker 3>happening is people who are passengers. When you get in

0:51:12.960 --> 0:51:15.000
<v Speaker 3>a car, you expect the car to have a certain

0:51:15.040 --> 0:51:18.640
<v Speaker 3>sort of acceleration process going through the Even an automatic car,

0:51:18.960 --> 0:51:22.920
<v Speaker 3>the gear changes will alter the acceleration. But with electric

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<v Speaker 3>cars it's so different that the researchers believe because we're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about a high percentage of people feeling more car sick.

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<v Speaker 3>So this has been some tested stuff like these. These

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<v Speaker 3>PhD students did a whole series of experiments. They looked

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<v Speaker 3>at how people reacted to being in electric cars, and

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<v Speaker 3>they talked about a high percentage of people because brain

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<v Speaker 3>anticipates a certain movement, because we're so conditioned to how

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<v Speaker 3>normal car drives that it's out of sync with what

0:51:55.360 --> 0:51:58.000
<v Speaker 3>the brain is anticipating and that's why people are feeling

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<v Speaker 3>car sick.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because the acceleration in electric car is almost totally linear.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's no it's like just yeah, one thing,

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<v Speaker 2>all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's let you sing as you're generously giving away

0:52:10.719 --> 0:52:13.040
<v Speaker 1>five domains. So if you want to start a business,

0:52:13.160 --> 0:52:16.080
<v Speaker 1>or you want to start a website, just hit up.

0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Boy Wonder is very generously offered to give away some

0:52:20.520 --> 0:52:23.440
<v Speaker 1>of his time and his intellectual property and a couple

0:52:23.440 --> 0:52:26.520
<v Speaker 1>of web website or web addresses, i should say.

0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:27.240
<v Speaker 2>Or domain names.

0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Just remind people how to do that, and give you

0:52:29.840 --> 0:52:32.440
<v Speaker 1>a show, give your business a plug because you deserve it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh thanks mate. Now just websites now dot com dot

0:52:35.480 --> 0:52:38.279
<v Speaker 3>au and you can jump on there and contact me

0:52:38.320 --> 0:52:40.279
<v Speaker 3>in a little bit of a chat if you want to.

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<v Speaker 1>The up butter Cup, We appreciate you, Tiff love the

0:52:45.239 --> 0:52:49.280
<v Speaker 1>banana jacket, couldn't love it more, couldn't love it more?

0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:53.440
<v Speaker 1>And the Clark Kent Spectacles that makes you look about

0:52:53.520 --> 0:52:55.080
<v Speaker 1>twenty IQ points smarter.

0:52:56.600 --> 0:52:59.040
<v Speaker 2>And the wedding ring, the wedding ring around your neck.

0:52:59.160 --> 0:53:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Just waiting for Patrick to jump the fence and realize

0:53:02.120 --> 0:53:03.160
<v Speaker 1>what he's missing out on.

0:53:03.840 --> 0:53:06.080
<v Speaker 4>That's the hook for him. That's the really mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what he'd be waiting for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been waiting for me to put that around my neck.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not coming. I will say goodbye, fair but Patrick,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, Tip, thank you,