Speaker 1: I got a tenaman, So you project Patrick and tear
Speaker 1: for here every two weeks. We'll tips here a lot
Speaker 1: more than that. Patrick's here every two weeks, because I
Speaker 1: think we'd burst if we had any more of him
Speaker 1: than that. Of course, it's the U project, and let's start.
Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go the other way around. Let's start
Speaker 1: with boy wander up there in Bland, the thriving metropolis
Speaker 1: of Bland.
Speaker 2: Hi, mate, how are you?
Speaker 3: It was so cold yesterday that I was worried Fritz
Speaker 3: was going to be frozen to a tree.
Speaker 1: Oh, frozen Fritz. That sounds like some kind of streets product.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I have, yeah, lickety split and a frozen Fritz.
Speaker 3: It was so cold. It was so it's been so freezing,
Speaker 3: and I had one of you know those wheat heat
Speaker 3: packs you put in the microwave. So I do call
Speaker 3: this morning when I go. So, I've got my hoodie
Speaker 3: with the pocket that goes all the way through, because's
Speaker 3: very important. You get a pocket that goes all the
Speaker 3: way through, and then I can shove my hands in
Speaker 3: there and it stays warm for about Oh look, if
Speaker 3: I zap at it for four minutes, I reckon I
Speaker 3: get about forty five minutes of heat out of it.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, can I throw down a challenge for you
Speaker 1: to try something?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: Actually, personally, what's the I'm taking off? Mahuti?
Speaker 1: Everyone, I must be getting serious to reveal the flannel
Speaker 1: underneath for haughty. I'm not a bogain at all. That's
Speaker 1: a treat for you too, but no one else. What's
Speaker 1: the temperature there on average at the minute in the morning,
Speaker 1: look at bit.
Speaker 3: Varies between minus two and maybe plus two at the
Speaker 3: moment in the mornings.
Speaker 2: And how long do you walk for?
Speaker 3: Oh? Well, I go to the gym first, so that's
Speaker 3: the first port of call, so Jim first. Because we've
Speaker 3: spoken about putting the beach towel on my windscreen so
Speaker 3: it does an ice over, So I do that the
Speaker 3: night before. So I normally take Fritzy out for about
Speaker 3: forty five minutes to an hour, depends on who I
Speaker 3: bump into on the way, because our mutual friend tif
Speaker 3: Kim and Walter we bump into them a fair bit.
Speaker 3: And she's a listener to the show. I'm going to
Speaker 3: tell you a story about this later. I don't want
Speaker 3: to interrupt the introduction, but it is pretty damn cold,
Speaker 3: and I do go out for around about forty five
Speaker 3: minutes to an hour.
Speaker 1: You're the only bloke that I can say, how long
Speaker 1: do you walk for? And that becomes a two minute
Speaker 1: monologue like all you need to go is forty five minutes?
Speaker 2: Answer? Na, fucking hell. I just went and grew a
Speaker 2: beard and had a shave.
Speaker 1: So here's my It's something I've been doing. It's going
Speaker 1: to be much harder for you, because I mean cold
Speaker 1: where I am is about four or five or six,
Speaker 1: but where you are it's fucking sub zero. Try this, mate,
Speaker 1: like three mornings a week if you want to get up,
Speaker 1: go for a walk without Fritz in a singlet and
Speaker 1: a pair of shorts in the freezing for ten minutes
Speaker 1: and see.
Speaker 2: How you go.
Speaker 1: So instead of having to do an ice bath or
Speaker 1: you know, cold plunge or whatever, try that I've been
Speaker 1: doing it. It's you feel fucking great when you get back.
Speaker 3: NOODI run. You know I have Reinard syndrome, right, jog
Speaker 3: it out. My hands and feet go white. If anybody
Speaker 3: listening to us knows what reinards condition or reinard syndrome is,
Speaker 3: it means that you don't just have cold hands. The
Speaker 3: blood rushes out of your fingertips. Look it up, Go
Speaker 3: and do a Google search on and just type in
Speaker 3: Reynard syndrome and the fingers go completely white and numb.
Speaker 3: And that's me within the third thirty seconds.
Speaker 2: So wear some gloves, but nothing else.
Speaker 1: All I want is isody. I want some dick togs. No, no,
Speaker 1: we want your junk covered. Nobody needs to see that,
Speaker 1: although they need a fucking telescope. Dick togs gloves. Well
Speaker 1: it's cold, I mean, and yeah, you don't want that
Speaker 1: to do you. Good morning Tiff, Good morning tif here.
Speaker 1: How why are you dressed like a corporate banana?
Speaker 4: Because I'm a fancy I'm very fancy and.
Speaker 1: You look like you're wearing a yellow suit or yellow
Speaker 1: like yellow.
Speaker 4: Double breasted jacket. It's the best, so good color.
Speaker 2: You've been out networking this morning?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Just you know, work in the room, Harps, work in
Speaker 5: the room, having some smash.
Speaker 1: Davo tell me, tell me, and then Patrick can because
Speaker 1: he's done a bit as well, because he told us
Speaker 1: before we went live. What do you love and what
Speaker 1: do you hate about networking? Or does depend depend on
Speaker 1: the group.
Speaker 4: Depends on the group very very much.
Speaker 5: I love hanging out with people in group environments, kind
Speaker 5: of supporting each other and learning from different types of
Speaker 5: people and just interacting. I just love being in the
Speaker 5: room with people, and I hate when it's awkward and
Speaker 5: stilted and there's a bunch of enaughies and it's.
Speaker 4: A bit forced. I hate that aspect, which.
Speaker 5: Can you know, depending on what room you enter, there
Speaker 5: can be some of that good.
Speaker 1: So this is not incidental networking. These are groups that
Speaker 1: are organized specifically to bring people together for that reason.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, this was My friend is a member of
Speaker 5: this group. So I went along as a visit today.
Speaker 5: They were holding a women's women in Business special events,
Speaker 5: so it was all women's focus.
Speaker 4: They had a stack of guests like.
Speaker 5: Me come along and hang out with them, and it's
Speaker 5: structured so there's chance for everyone to introduce themselves and
Speaker 5: there's it's the purpose is to become referral partners for
Speaker 5: each other in business.
Speaker 2: Nice Patrick, you've done a little bit of that. Thoughts.
Speaker 3: Oh, my thoughts the same as Tiff. It really depends
Speaker 3: on the room. The last time I did a networking
Speaker 3: function was early last year. And I met my new
Speaker 3: accountant there. He was fantastic, really dynamic, and he helped
Speaker 3: me through a big business transition moving to a company structure.
Speaker 3: He was phenomenal and it's great. And you know, it
Speaker 3: was just a local networking thing organized by our local Shire.
Speaker 3: I know, you laugh at me when I say shy.
Speaker 3: You make me think I'm a hobbit, But we have
Speaker 3: a Shire Council. But they do do a lot of
Speaker 3: They're quite proactive in terms of doing networking and so.
Speaker 3: And I've also been involved with our local Chamber of
Speaker 3: Commerce for many years as well. You know, do their
Speaker 3: website for them, and they have regular functions, they have
Speaker 3: dinner meetings every month. But I think, yeah, in general,
Speaker 3: it really does come down to reading the room and
Speaker 3: getting the right people in the right space. And I
Speaker 3: mean it's no different than anything that I guess you've
Speaker 3: done with any sort of interaction. You can go to
Speaker 3: a party and it can die in the backside because
Speaker 3: it's just not the right chemistry, whereas other times, you know,
Speaker 3: you've got two men and a black dog and it's great,
Speaker 3: it's the best not you've ever had. So you know,
Speaker 3: it's just in the room.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've never been to one. I should probably,
Speaker 2: well maybe I should. I don't know, but yeah, I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: I would.
Speaker 1: I'd be curious to go stick my nose in and
Speaker 1: see what happens and meet a few.
Speaker 5: People yourself invited. I'm going to haul you along and
Speaker 5: guess what. This one's halfway between where you live and
Speaker 5: where I live, so I will meet you there. You
Speaker 5: won't have to stumble too far from your abode.
Speaker 1: Do I have to get my passport out? Is it
Speaker 1: further than Elwood because I.
Speaker 4: Don't go further now, it's half way to Wellwood?
Speaker 1: Oh bright, right, Well that's really I could probably do that,
Speaker 1: probably negotiate that Patrick.
Speaker 2: Were you going to make fun of my nose again?
Speaker 3: No, no, I just I mean you did mention about
Speaker 3: taking it into the room with you. But that's great.
Speaker 1: It usually gets there long before me. By the time
Speaker 1: I get in there, three people are standing under it.
Speaker 3: So you know, anyway, if you're outside, all the smokers
Speaker 3: can huddle underneath you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if it's raining, everyone can just fucking shelter under
Speaker 1: my schnozz. Yeah, I'm okay with all that, don't mind
Speaker 1: at all. What are we talking?
Speaker 3: About today, technic technical, before we jump into this. I
Speaker 3: had a fascinating conversation with my friend Kim yesterday.
Speaker 2: Hey, can I just point out, you know you're not
Speaker 2: in charge?
Speaker 3: Right? I know?
Speaker 1: But no, no, you can't say before we jump into
Speaker 1: this because you're not in fucking charge.
Speaker 3: How about we vote? How about we vote to votes?
Speaker 1: No, no, it's a dictatorship. There's no fucking vote here.
Speaker 1: I'm a megalamoniac. He's a megalomaniac. Maniacal podcast. Do you
Speaker 1: get no fucking say he's going to tip?
Speaker 2: What's fifty percent of zero?
Speaker 3: Exactly? Come on, because you two are the people. Okay,
Speaker 3: I reckon. There are two sorts of people in the world,
Speaker 3: like the people who stub their toe cry and then
Speaker 3: rock back and forward in the corner and the people
Speaker 3: who pushed through it. Right. And so yesterday when I
Speaker 3: bumped into my friend Kim and her dog Walter as
Speaker 3: we were doing it early morning freezing walk, we got
Speaker 3: talking about that sort of stuff and we started exchanging
Speaker 3: pictures of our toes because I the last time I
Speaker 3: was in Melbourne, I slipped off the bottom step and
Speaker 3: flexed my toes and they ended up purple but I
Speaker 3: pushed through it, right, And then she told me she
Speaker 3: was lifting weights and was putting some new weights on.
Speaker 3: And you know what's the little end of the weights
Speaker 3: that hold the big weights on collar. She's dropped the
Speaker 3: collar onto her toe and then not only has she
Speaker 3: broken her toe, she went for a run afterwards. Right,
Speaker 3: this is how balls this she is. So we got
Speaker 3: talking about this and pushing through and I was fascinated
Speaker 3: to think about because the first time I ever went skiing,
Speaker 3: on day one, I've fallen over. I fractured my finger.
Speaker 3: My ring finger was at ninety degree ease, and then
Speaker 3: for the next week I'd spend fifteen minutes putting the
Speaker 3: gloves on because there was no way I was going
Speaker 3: to spoil a ski trip. I'd never done skiing before,
Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, I'm not going to go to a doctor.
Speaker 3: That's just silly, because you know, I can get through this.
Speaker 3: So my finger was sitting out at ninety degrees and
Speaker 3: it would take me all this time to put the
Speaker 3: gloves on, but I wasn't going to spoil the whole day.
Speaker 3: So it made me wonder, given your experiences, and I'm
Speaker 3: sure Tiff, given your experiences in the ring. What have
Speaker 3: you fought through that? Ordinarily most people wouldn't. Have you
Speaker 3: ever had an injury while you've been training or while
Speaker 3: you've been fighting me, or.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking like, get comfortable if you want me to
Speaker 2: tell you about my injuries. So let's not even go
Speaker 2: Let's not even go to me because my body's reasonably
Speaker 2: fucked already. So let's go to tiff.
Speaker 5: My first amateur novice title fight. So I'd had a
Speaker 5: few corporate boxing challenges and then my first novice title
Speaker 5: fight I fought with a back thing going on, and
Speaker 5: then after the fight, I got diagnosed with fractured stress
Speaker 5: fractures in my transverse process, which is a little nodule
Speaker 5: on the side of.
Speaker 4: On my lumbar spine.
Speaker 5: Very painful, but you know when you get when you
Speaker 5: step into the ring, adrenaline masks all of that, so
Speaker 5: that disappears.
Speaker 1: I've got one that is a good story, and that
Speaker 1: is that is being mentally tough. But mine is about
Speaker 1: being mentally stupid. So when I was young, I was obsessed,
Speaker 1: as you remember, right.
Speaker 2: And I've told their stories psypologies.
Speaker 1: I used to run every day, Patrick, and I didn't
Speaker 1: do it because I was disciplined. I did it because
Speaker 1: I was obsessed. So I ran three hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: five days of the year, every day of the year.
Speaker 1: I did a thousand push ups every day of the year.
Speaker 1: I did a thousand sit ups every day of the year.
Speaker 1: I did like two hundred chin ups. Right, And it
Speaker 1: wasn't because I was disciplined or had a lot of
Speaker 1: self control.
Speaker 2: It was because I was obsessed.
Speaker 1: And when I did that, it made me look better
Speaker 1: and feel better, and I was addicted to the look
Speaker 1: and the feeling all this shit. Right, So anyway, and
Speaker 1: I also used to play footy. I played footy. I
Speaker 1: fucked up my ankle really badly. They didn't have moon
Speaker 1: boots back then. They were not a thing. But if
Speaker 1: they had, I'd be in a moonboot anyway. So it
Speaker 1: was all taped up like a mummy crutches. The instructions
Speaker 1: do not weight bear for two weeks, so don't put
Speaker 1: your foot on the ground. Now, this is oh, no,
Speaker 1: I run every day. It's like, well, no, you don't
Speaker 1: run every day. You won't be running for maybe eight weeks.
Speaker 1: I'm like, and I'm listening to him, going, that's not happening.
Speaker 2: But anyway, So.
Speaker 1: The quicksh version is, I go home. I meant to
Speaker 1: not put my foot on the ground, not even weight
Speaker 1: bear a little bit for two weeks, and then slowly
Speaker 1: introduce weight bearing, and then probably in about four weeks
Speaker 1: start to walk, and then over time walk, jog, jog,
Speaker 1: walk whatever. So I went home and I I climbed
Speaker 1: out of the window of my bedroom at about ten
Speaker 1: o'clock at night because I hadn't been for a run,
Speaker 1: and obviously left the crutches in my bedroom. Ron and
Speaker 1: Mary don't know about this, so feel free to tell them.
Speaker 1: And I just started walking in absolute agony. I walked
Speaker 1: out from the backyard out to the front of my house,
Speaker 1: and I just in my mind, I'm like, I'm going
Speaker 1: to run, doesn't matter how painful it is.
Speaker 2: And so I started running, and obviously it was excruciating
Speaker 2: pain and I ran hobbled, ran hobbled for about.
Speaker 1: I don't know, like two hundred meters and I I
Speaker 1: was fifteen, I was an idiot, right, But I'm crying.
Speaker 1: I'm because I'm an addict, like this is completely ridiculous, irrational, unhealthy.
Speaker 1: Then I walk, I'm running in the middle of the
Speaker 1: road because I live in the country, right, there's no
Speaker 1: one around. So I walked to the side of the
Speaker 1: road where even though it's the country, it's it's a town.
Speaker 1: It's moey, so there's gutters and shit. So I put
Speaker 1: my foot in the gutter. So it was my right foot,
Speaker 1: and my right foot was what's called supernated, so leaning
Speaker 1: on the outside so kind of turned on that angle turned.
Speaker 1: But when I walked in the gutter, the pain was
Speaker 1: reduced significantly, Like I didn't even know why then I
Speaker 1: know why now anyway, I'm like, oh, so it went
Speaker 1: from like ten out of ten pain to like five.
Speaker 1: So I tried a bit of a jog and it
Speaker 1: was quite painful, obviously, but I could just jog. So
Speaker 1: I spent the next month sneaking out of my bedroom
Speaker 1: at night and jogging in gutters around Latroe Valley like
Speaker 1: a fucking weirdo. And my right ankle, which it was,
Speaker 1: has still fucked so.
Speaker 2: Good work me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, normal people sneak out to me, to girlfriend, go
Speaker 3: to Ao allowed to and maybe to punch someone up.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm trying to think of what Tiff
Speaker 3: might do. But really, to run on a broken foot,
Speaker 3: that's awesome, mate, Yeah, go.
Speaker 2: Meet, go meet.
Speaker 1: There's no by the way, there's no pride in that.
Speaker 1: That's the dumbest shit of all time.
Speaker 3: Yeah. When I finally went to the doctor after a
Speaker 3: week of having a finger stuck in the ninety degree
Speaker 3: position which was fractured, which I didn't know at the time.
Speaker 3: I remember the doctor, you know, it looked at me
Speaker 3: like I was an idiot. And then at the end
Speaker 3: of the consultation, I said, so, when it's healed, will
Speaker 3: I be able to play the piano? And he said, yeah,
Speaker 3: of course you will. I said, fantastic. I've never been
Speaker 3: able to play the piano.
Speaker 2: You're an idiot. Did you sit up last night writing that?
Speaker 3: I did actually say that to him, He laughed. He
Speaker 3: thought it was quite entertaining.
Speaker 2: All right, talk to us about stuff.
Speaker 1: Actually, I want to start with okay, can we start
Speaker 1: with what's.
Speaker 2: In a name? My business name sucks? Can we start there?
Speaker 3: Well, look, it's funny. I was reading an article recently
Speaker 3: about domain names going up in price, and I was thinking,
Speaker 3: quite often when I talk to people, you've got Craig
Speaker 3: Harper dot com. Att. Okay, so it's a good name.
Speaker 3: It's easy to pronounce. My business name is Genesis FX. Like,
Speaker 3: what a stupid name to have as a domain name.
Speaker 3: How do you spell it? Is it e f f CT?
Speaker 3: Is it letter F letter X? So it was. It
Speaker 3: was good at the time, and it's not a Bible reference.
Speaker 3: Can I just clarify. I'm a Star Trek fan, I'm
Speaker 3: a nerd. And it was from the second Wrath of
Speaker 3: Khan movie Star Trek, The Wrath of Khn and they
Speaker 3: had a Genesis device. I'm merding out. I'm just going
Speaker 3: to I'm going to stop now. But anyway, so, so
Speaker 3: I come up with this name.
Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, come back, everyone, come back. No, really, come
Speaker 2: back to your phone now.
Speaker 3: But I came up with the name before I before
Speaker 3: I decided to, before the internet was around, so, you know,
Speaker 3: because I knew you then. That was a long time ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we met. We met each other just after the
Speaker 2: wheel became a thing. And fire remember when they invented fire?
Speaker 2: Howpened was that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? We could actually cook out vegetables. Yeah, ah man,
Speaker 3: but no, no, so got me thinking, and I just
Speaker 3: thought some little trivia things about expensive typos. Right. So example,
Speaker 3: in sixteen thirty one, right, an English printer accidentally left
Speaker 3: out the word not in the seventh commandment, so ut
Speaker 3: shalt not commit adultery became a free for all. Thou
Speaker 3: shalt commit adultery? Right, So the poor blake was fined
Speaker 3: by the baking Charles mind you ordered one thousand copies
Speaker 3: destroyed and three thousand pounds and they revoked his Bible
Speaker 3: printing license. So I guess it was the end of
Speaker 3: his business. But another one NASA, Right, in nineteen sixty two,
Speaker 3: NASA had a Mariner one mission to Venus, and it's
Speaker 3: believed that someone writing the code put a comma in
Speaker 3: the wrong spot and just after it launched they had
Speaker 3: to destroy the satellite and it cost them eighty million
Speaker 3: dollars in nineteen sixty two. Shit, a comma, Like a
Speaker 3: comma in the code.
Speaker 2: But I mean, can you explain to me?
Speaker 1: Maybe Tiff understands what that means, but what does I
Speaker 1: don't know what does that mean?
Speaker 2: Like, so a comma in the code.
Speaker 3: The language, okay, the programming language that was used for
Speaker 3: the guidance system. Because the comera is in the wrong spot.
Speaker 3: So it might have been you know, you have ever
Speaker 3: watched you know that the rocket launches, they start off
Speaker 3: going straight and then they kind of veer to the
Speaker 3: side a little bit to try to get the escape
Speaker 3: velocity happening. Well, evidently the common meant that it made
Speaker 3: a maneuver too early, so instead of say, it's supposed
Speaker 3: to have done it at a kilometer, it did it
Speaker 3: at like one hundred meters something along those lines. But
Speaker 3: if effectively, it meant they had to destroy this eighty
Speaker 3: million dollars satellite that was supposed to be going to Venus.
Speaker 3: It was the first satellite of the first mission ever
Speaker 3: to Venus. So yeah, that was that could be.
Speaker 1: The most expensive typo in the history of typo's.
Speaker 2: Patrick.
Speaker 3: It's pretty good, isn't it. Yeah, Yeah, for sure, it happens.
Speaker 3: Macy's did this promotion. That's the the I guess the supermarket.
Speaker 3: Let's more than a Saon.
Speaker 1: No, they're like a They're kind of our version of
Speaker 1: Myers or yeah. Yeah, yeah, like a big department store.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well again, same thing. Someone's put in a diamond
Speaker 3: necklace for the wrong price a typo and they had
Speaker 3: to honor it. So in twenty thirteen, fifteen hundred dollars
Speaker 3: diamond necklaces went for forty seven bucks and they all
Speaker 3: got sold out.
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, isn't that Oh god, yeah, well someone
Speaker 1: someone's getting in trouble.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. And the other one that I thought was
Speaker 3: interesting was in twenty ten, Penguin Australia published a past
Speaker 3: a Bible and someone in mistakingly instead of putting salt
Speaker 3: and freshly ground pepper, they put salt and freshly ground
Speaker 3: black people instead of black pepper. They put black people
Speaker 3: black people black pepper, and so they had to it
Speaker 3: was a twenty thousand dollar mistakes. So they had to
Speaker 3: get rid of the pulp seven thousand copies of of
Speaker 3: the past the Bible.
Speaker 1: I think that would have been more than a twenty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars mistake.
Speaker 2: Like that is that is terrible?
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty bad? Huh yeah, go and look the other thing.
Speaker 3: And then what got me thinking about this also is
Speaker 3: because domain names. One of the worst domain names is
Speaker 3: because when you've got a domain name, there's no gaps
Speaker 3: and so the words run together, and sometimes people forget
Speaker 3: that running the words together can make other words.
Speaker 1: Can I just pause you for one sec. There's going
Speaker 1: to be twenty percent of our listeners who are who
Speaker 1: aren't thirty years old, who are going what's a domain name?
Speaker 3: Oh really? Okay, so www dot craigharper dot net. That's
Speaker 3: a domain name. Okay.
Speaker 1: So it's like like what we non tech people might
Speaker 1: call like a web.
Speaker 3: Address, right web address? Yeah, exactly, the dub dub dub.
Speaker 3: So in this instance, if you think of the word therapist,
Speaker 3: the problem is when you put therapist into a domain name,
Speaker 3: it can be the rapist, not therapy. So that's there's
Speaker 3: there's some problems when you're thinking about registering a domain name.
Speaker 3: Is join all the words together and see what it spells.
Speaker 3: There's some classically funny examples and some tragically bad examples
Speaker 3: of words that get run together. And you've got to
Speaker 3: call one of my clients. I shouldn't say this, I guess,
Speaker 3: because he's a client, but I've got to tell you anyway.
Speaker 3: He's in the United States. So his name is Fred
Speaker 3: Winn and a lot of Americans like to use their
Speaker 3: middle initial and so when he was he's an author,
Speaker 3: and he's actually a really interesting guy. He worked in
Speaker 3: the prison system for years and years and years, and
Speaker 3: he's been involved in the Black Lives Matter. Really lovely guy.
Speaker 3: His name is Fred A. Win and I pointed out
Speaker 3: to him that if you put that in a domain name,
Speaker 3: it becomes freeda win, not read a wig, because there's
Speaker 3: no full stops. And so when you went to Registeres Demain,
Speaker 3: I said, you know that if we put your name
Speaker 3: in as Freda a win, it's going to be freeda win.
Speaker 3: But you know, he went with it because that's his name,
Speaker 3: fred Awin.
Speaker 2: But now I think I think Freda's got an eye
Speaker 2: in it?
Speaker 3: Is it advice to leaders Freda though?
Speaker 1: But back back to your point about the rapist. I
Speaker 1: had a friend. I met a guy who came into
Speaker 1: one of the gyms I was working out. His name
Speaker 1: was Norbert Vonzumhoff right, what German? Yeah, Norbert monhim half right,
Speaker 1: Shout out to Normady if he's around. We used to
Speaker 1: call him normal anyway. He'd only been out from Germany
Speaker 1: for not long. He was a level ten gymnast. Moved
Speaker 1: to Australia. Him and I started just working out together. Anyway,
Speaker 1: One day we were out and we were walking along
Speaker 1: and there was a physiotherapist right sign physio and he's like,
Speaker 1: what is physio?
Speaker 2: The rapist? So same thing?
Speaker 3: What is?
Speaker 2: He goes Craig, what is Physio the Rapist? And I'm
Speaker 2: like what. He goes, Physio the Rapist? What is it?
Speaker 1: And I'm like what And then he points to the sign.
Speaker 1: I'll go, oh fuck, that's physiotherapist bro. And he's like, no,
Speaker 1: do you O the Rapist? I'm like, no, that's not
Speaker 1: a the just it's this. Yeah, I get it. But
Speaker 1: so yeah, So getting your domain name and not accidentally
Speaker 1: getting something you don't want as a challenge, right.
Speaker 3: Some advice for you, So think carefully because you're stuck
Speaker 3: with it for a long time.
Speaker 1: Like one of the things that you do is build
Speaker 1: websites and do you get domain names for people and stuff.
Speaker 3: For yea, yeah, yeah, do all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of like, I mean, it makes sense.
Speaker 3: It's all those bits and pieces that all slot together.
Speaker 3: So the first part is trying to get the right
Speaker 3: domain name and really thinking about things that are spelt
Speaker 3: and how people see them as being spelt as well.
Speaker 3: You know, do you put the number one or do
Speaker 3: you have one? So if it was Craig Harper number
Speaker 3: one trainer, would you have the number one or would
Speaker 3: you have So sometimes you've got to register more than
Speaker 3: one domain name to make sure you get both. Does
Speaker 3: that makes sense?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well I remember when.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes I think I don't know MELI did all that,
Speaker 1: but I think craigharba dot net. We've also got craigharba
Speaker 1: dot org, dot dot net, AU dot net without the
Speaker 1: au dot just in case, you know, other people use it.
Speaker 3: It's not a bad idea. It's brand protection because you know,
Speaker 3: one of the exciting things. I thought it was exciting,
Speaker 3: but a lot of people were skeptical about it. So
Speaker 3: the official domain registrar in Australia is called outer au
Speaker 3: DA and it's a not for comforit organization that manages
Speaker 3: all the domain names in Australia, so all the dubdub
Speaker 3: dubs that have an AU extension. So a dot com
Speaker 3: is American, dot UK is UK dot NZ as New
Speaker 3: Zealand Australia's are AU. But what they did was one
Speaker 3: of the problems with that was you you needed to
Speaker 3: have an ABN or an acn C, needed to be
Speaker 3: a registered business to register a dot com dot AU
Speaker 3: and it left a lot of people, maybe hobbyists or
Speaker 3: enthusiasts who don't have a company or a business structure.
Speaker 3: So a few years ago they released what they called
Speaker 3: AU Direct, so you could register tiff Cook dot au
Speaker 3: and because it didn't have the dot com dot Au,
Speaker 3: you could just register it. As long as you're an
Speaker 3: Australian citizen and you can prove you're an Australian, then
Speaker 3: you're entitled to have an AU direct domain name, which
Speaker 3: is great because it meant that people, because I think
Speaker 3: it instills a lot more confidence. When I'm shopping online
Speaker 3: and I want an Australian company, I will I'm more
Speaker 3: likely and this has been proven people are more likely
Speaker 3: to be confident in an a dot com dot au
Speaker 3: domain name than are just a dot com domain name.
Speaker 3: Do you find that tip when you go shopping or
Speaker 3: looking online that you look for the AU extension. I
Speaker 3: know it's something that I certainly do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if i'm yeah, if I'm buying online, I do.
Speaker 3: M because it means a that they're Australian business and
Speaker 3: it's and then the hurdles are a little bit harder
Speaker 3: to cross anyway. Anybody can register a dot com, but
Speaker 3: you have to have an a b N or an ACN,
Speaker 3: so you've got to be an Australian business to get
Speaker 3: that dot com dot AU extension.
Speaker 2: I remember, correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this has changed, but there was
Speaker 1: a real time, mate, where people would kind of try
Speaker 1: to anticipate what might be big, and they'd register a
Speaker 1: bunch of you know, web addresses or domain names. So
Speaker 1: let's say, for example, you had a YouTube channel, Patrick
Speaker 1: Bonello fucking Live and it started to boom, and like
Speaker 1: you're sitting at four million followers, and I go, I
Speaker 1: wonder if he's got a website, and I realized you
Speaker 1: don't have a website, so I go, fuckety fuck. So
Speaker 1: I register Patrick Bonello dot everything and then I've got
Speaker 1: a monopoly on that. Then I then you go, hey mate,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm actually Patrick Bonello.
Speaker 2: I want that?
Speaker 1: Can I buy it? And I go, sure, thirty grand?
Speaker 1: So that was happening for a while, Wasn't it a lot?
Speaker 3: It still does happen in the dot com space. That's
Speaker 3: such a good question, because I'd looked to register my
Speaker 3: family's surname. I'm talking when I knew you all that
Speaker 3: time out and in America had registered it as a
Speaker 3: dot com and he wanted two thousand dollars for it.
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't want to pay two thousand dollars
Speaker 3: for that. I don't know what it'd be like now
Speaker 3: now that I'm super Yeah, But the thing is that's
Speaker 3: so that's called cyber squatting, and you can if you
Speaker 3: can find a dot com, anybody can buy one. And
Speaker 3: that again comes down to why it's less likely in
Speaker 3: Australia because you have to have the ABN. And I
Speaker 3: had one of my this happened to one of my
Speaker 3: clients where they bought a business from somebody, but the
Speaker 3: person who registered the domain name of the business was
Speaker 3: a marketing person and she relinquished the domain name and
Speaker 3: then somebody snapped it up so their own domain name
Speaker 3: they didn't have access to, and so we appealed that
Speaker 3: to the official authority outer and they relinquished it to
Speaker 3: them because the person who registered it had no claim
Speaker 3: to that name. And that's where the protection is in Australia.
Speaker 3: So someone registered create craigharper dot au, which is the
Speaker 3: day Au direct extension, which Melissa may not have registered. Quick,
Speaker 3: everybody have a look and see if it's there. So
Speaker 3: if I went and registered it because I thought, oh
Speaker 3: now harps hasn't got that one. I'm going to register
Speaker 3: it and see if I can sell it to him. Well,
Speaker 3: you have claim to be able to go back and say, well, no,
Speaker 3: this is my name, it's my brand and you have
Speaker 3: to give it to me. And if ow to the
Speaker 3: Australian authority, demain authority, says he actually, you know what
Speaker 3: it is, his name, we'll relinquish it and then you'll
Speaker 3: be able to snap it up and go and get it.
Speaker 2: Patrick.
Speaker 1: You know how the kids use that term balling, Like
Speaker 1: if people are doing great, they're balling.
Speaker 2: Have you heard that? Or no, I'm too old, Tiff.
Speaker 2: Have you heard that? No? Really?
Speaker 1: Okay, So like if someone's a baller, they're fucking crushing it,
Speaker 1: they're killing it.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: Okay, look at Patrick, he's looking it up.
Speaker 3: I'm looking up your domain.
Speaker 1: There's two people on my show other than me, and
Speaker 1: they're both fucking typing on their computers.
Speaker 2: Everyone.
Speaker 4: I was just chicking roll with the punches.
Speaker 5: Dot com is available for for a steal at twenty
Speaker 5: four eighty eight usd ah.
Speaker 1: You should definitely buy that. I might buy it and
Speaker 1: give it to you for Christmas. I don't know how
Speaker 1: i'd wrap it anyway. I was going to say something hilarious,
Speaker 1: but you two unlike me when I support your rap,
Speaker 1: like me when.
Speaker 2: You're going off at a tangent.
Speaker 1: I pretend I'm interested, but you too just fucking type
Speaker 1: on your computers.
Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, you don't understand the pressure I work under here.
Speaker 3: Have freeball.
Speaker 1: No, Hey, I'm an only child. That's your chances coming
Speaker 1: gone track.
Speaker 3: Hey, Craigo, just say you know. If you want, anybody
Speaker 3: out there wants to register Craig's domain name, you can
Speaker 3: register Craigharper dot Sydney dot Melbourne, dot NZ, dot co
Speaker 3: dot NZ, dot org Au dot org, dot I dot online,
Speaker 3: dot site dot tech. There is a stack, mate, You're screwed.
Speaker 3: Everyone's going to have a Craigharper website by don't.
Speaker 4: I'm so mad at you.
Speaker 3: Patrick, to be so mad.
Speaker 2: If she could find a way to fucking bland, she'd
Speaker 2: poke you in your piece, Tiff.
Speaker 3: Only Tiff comes and visits me in bla.
Speaker 4: She's when it's minus five degrees. Give stuff. Yeah, good
Speaker 4: points for summertime.
Speaker 2: Patrick.
Speaker 1: I feel like, seeing as you're a person who helps
Speaker 1: people with websites and business, and you should.
Speaker 2: You should like.
Speaker 1: Give away a website or not a website, a domain. Like,
Speaker 1: if somebody's thinking of starting their business, can they reach
Speaker 1: out to you, and you, out of the generosity of
Speaker 1: your heart, give them a free domain?
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I will. I'll give them a free domain. Yeah, seriously,
Speaker 3: I will. Yeah, if you're thinking of setting up business,
Speaker 3: we'll talk about what you're going to register, and I
Speaker 3: will register it for you and give it to you.
Speaker 3: That's two years. If it's a dot com today year,
Speaker 3: you can register for two years and I'll give it to.
Speaker 1: Just make make sure you go with the one that
Speaker 1: Tiff that just said that's twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Four grand, go with that one.
Speaker 1: I think there might be an asterisk next to this offer.
Speaker 1: But what if it's like Patrick, what if there's like
Speaker 1: five people who contact you?
Speaker 2: What are you just going to turn away for all?
Speaker 3: Right, I'll do five. That's it. The ceiling is okay,
Speaker 3: I can't. I love how we spending my money. Tip.
Speaker 2: What if there's a hundred.
Speaker 5: Give away a service he's asking you to pay for
Speaker 5: a sent it cost you money?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is exactly what I'm doing LS the challenge there,
Speaker 3: you get it. Five.
Speaker 2: I'm all about my audience.
Speaker 3: I will give away five domain names. I'm rising to
Speaker 3: the challenge.
Speaker 2: There you go, five domain names.
Speaker 1: And so all right, and how do people contact you
Speaker 1: if they want one of those domain Now?
Speaker 2: Already it sounds very much like a setup. This wasn't planned.
Speaker 2: This is not a setup, but it sounds like it.
Speaker 2: So how do people reach out?
Speaker 3: Also, we're talking you, Patrick is broke.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the worst podcast of all time because
Speaker 1: we're all fucking talking over each other. I apologize listeners.
Speaker 1: I'm probably the worst offender. Can people actually, at no
Speaker 1: extra cost talk.
Speaker 2: To you on the phone?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Of course I love talking to people, haven't. It's
Speaker 3: get him any shut ups the problem?
Speaker 2: All right? So all right just repeat? Okay, So how
Speaker 2: do they reach out to you? Do they phone you?
Speaker 2: Do they email you? Do they drive to your house?
Speaker 3: They can flat Oh, they can command of coffee. Well,
Speaker 3: they got to pay for the coffee, though, if you
Speaker 3: want to come to the land, you're gonna buy me
Speaker 3: coffee at the very least, I reckon. But no website websites, noow,
Speaker 3: dot com dot au. You've got all my contact details.
Speaker 3: You can even come and pat Fritz and we'll go
Speaker 3: for a walk. With Fritz that would be nice.
Speaker 1: And Patrick, if you get up there at three am,
Speaker 1: Patrick will be in his dick togs and his gloves.
Speaker 1: And because who's doing a ten minute cold walk every day?
Speaker 3: Do you reckon web?
Speaker 2: Chance? Tip puts up a hand like she's at school.
Speaker 4: A good question that the listeners are dying to know.
Speaker 4: The answerity.
Speaker 5: Is the starting price range for a basic website by you?
Speaker 4: Patrick?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Okay, it's actually a really good question. If you were
Speaker 3: doing a really basic website. I think you're probably looking
Speaker 3: at about say twelve hundred to fifteen hundred dollars for
Speaker 3: a basic site, and that includes hosting for twelve months.
Speaker 3: That's a good question. Is the starting price I guess
Speaker 3: is what you'd be looking at, And it really depends
Speaker 3: because it's how big is a piece of string. But
Speaker 3: one of the things I've always thought about, and this
Speaker 3: is another piece of advice, if you are looking for
Speaker 3: a website and you're speaking to somebody, not just me,
Speaker 3: but if you're speaking to someone, make sure you reachister
Speaker 3: the domain name in your business name, make sure that
Speaker 3: you have control over the website and basic instructions on
Speaker 3: how to update it. Because the thing is one of
Speaker 3: the catches that sometimes happens with websites is someone will
Speaker 3: design it and then you've got to go back to
Speaker 3: them for every single change, and every time they change it,
Speaker 3: they charge you. So I've take the fish in an approach,
Speaker 3: you know, give them a fishing ride and teach them
Speaker 3: how to fish. And that way people can make the
Speaker 3: changes and all that's themselves. So you know, if you've
Speaker 3: got a ten page or a five page or a
Speaker 3: one page site, but you want to add more content
Speaker 3: and do it yourself, then you should be able to
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. That's do you update your
Speaker 3: own site? Don't you? Tif?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do. I was just lat thing because I
Speaker 4: was like, is that a trick?
Speaker 3: Now? Is that?
Speaker 5: So they get in the back end ruin everything and
Speaker 5: then you actually make more to fix the Nah? No,
Speaker 5: we do.
Speaker 2: We do.
Speaker 3: We back up every day. So we always say to
Speaker 3: people if your balls up your website, if you break it,
Speaker 3: we'll just roll it back to the day before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it happens, you need your back end addressed, just
Speaker 1: contact Patrick.
Speaker 2: All right, So is there any I mean that's the
Speaker 2: take time, isn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So is there any chance we could do some tech tech,
Speaker 2: some tech Yeah, well any chance.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to fucking throw a spanner
Speaker 1: in your sales pitch. You're overt shameless sales pitch that
Speaker 1: you're clearly ran tip before the show said ah, hey
Speaker 1: could you ask this but make it sound like we
Speaker 1: haven't organized it. That was shameless. Tell us some tech news.
Speaker 2: Earn your money, will you?
Speaker 3: Okay, we're going to make some money now to pay
Speaker 3: for those bloody domain names I've just flogged off. Hey
Speaker 3: I'm Tesla owners. Okay, there's a lot of Tesla news
Speaker 3: out at the moment because there's a group in Australia
Speaker 3: that are looking at doing a class action against Tesla
Speaker 3: because there's suggestions that sometimes they will break, So Tesla
Speaker 3: owners are looking for some competition. They're talking about potentially
Speaker 3: hazardous situation if the car suddenly breaks and you didn't
Speaker 3: hit the brake.
Speaker 2: So ah, you're talking about br A K E.
Speaker 1: And I were thinking break occasionally breaks.
Speaker 3: And some breaking.
Speaker 2: Sorry gall listen to what I said.
Speaker 1: I thought you were saying break, Yeah, as in the
Speaker 1: car breaks.
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, it breaks and breaks down? Yes, breaking, No,
Speaker 3: we're talking about.
Speaker 2: You mean it like it applies. The breaks randomly.
Speaker 3: Right during autopilot mode.
Speaker 2: Mike, I'm thinking this is not a big story.
Speaker 3: All cars fucking break when you're in cruise control autopilot mode.
Speaker 3: The car can rapidly decelerate for no reason. This is
Speaker 3: allegations that are floating around, and they're trying to get
Speaker 3: a class action. So it's happening at the moment. Tesler
Speaker 3: owners are being asked to sign to this class action
Speaker 3: and they're looking to take it to the federal court
Speaker 3: later this year. But evidently thousands of Tesla owners are
Speaker 3: into this. And the interesting thing is that just this
Speaker 3: week in Austin, Texas, the first robotaxis hit the road.
Speaker 3: I think about eight or twenty, sorry, between ten and
Speaker 3: twenty robotaxis. So robotaxis, we have no driver. You get
Speaker 3: in the cab, you sit in the back, you tell
Speaker 3: them the destination or you verbally say it, I guess,
Speaker 3: and then you press a button to start and the
Speaker 3: taxi takes off. Now they've got real drivers sitting on
Speaker 3: the right hand side, so the passeng the driver's seats empty,
Speaker 3: and they have monitoring drivers for safety. At the moment,
Speaker 3: I don't know what they're going to do, just scream
Speaker 3: more as they ram into something. But I've been watching
Speaker 3: some because I have watching some YouTube videos of people
Speaker 3: getting into taxis and then drive it around. But evidently
Speaker 3: there's been concerns because they're driving erradically. There was an
Speaker 3: instance where there was some police parked on the side
Speaker 3: of the road and the car suddenly breaked. There was
Speaker 3: another instance where a car turned and went into the
Speaker 3: wrong lane. I don't know how comfortable you guys would
Speaker 3: be getting into a robotaxi with no one behind the wheel,
Speaker 3: would you?
Speaker 1: I definitely would. I don't know why I'm excited to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd love that shit ah once. I mean, if there
Speaker 1: was one in how Hampton and it would take me
Speaker 1: into the city drop me off for a speaking gig,
Speaker 1: I'd fucking jump in in five minutes.
Speaker 3: Have you ever heard of uber?
Speaker 2: I don't want to. I'd rather sit in the car
Speaker 2: with no one just snob.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm about to.
Speaker 2: I want some quiet time before I'm with all the humans.
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk to old mate.
Speaker 1: I mean, I will talk to old mate if he
Speaker 1: or she is there. But yeah, but no, would you not?
Speaker 1: Tif would you not get in a driverless car?
Speaker 5: Not? After hearing what is going on with Tesla.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm a bit dubious. It's a it's
Speaker 4: a bit scary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean I would.
Speaker 1: But also with the advent of yeah, autonomous cars or
Speaker 1: whatever driverless cars down the track, when they're proven to
Speaker 1: be safer than driver cars, I'd gladly sit in the
Speaker 1: car and let it take Ron and Mary while I
Speaker 1: do some work in the back seat, maybe watch a
Speaker 1: rom com.
Speaker 2: I don't know, fucking have a snooze.
Speaker 3: There's a lot to be said though, in all honesty,
Speaker 3: if you had all the vehicles on the road as autonomous,
Speaker 3: we would probably reduce traffic by so much. Would think
Speaker 3: about why people slow, you know, there's so many studies
Speaker 3: into the patterns of people when they're driving. You know,
Speaker 3: for example, if there's something on the side of the road,
Speaker 3: anyone rubbernecks and they slow down to check out, Well,
Speaker 3: that wouldn't happen in a ROBOTAXI. So, I know we've
Speaker 3: spoken about this on the show. But you know in
Speaker 3: the tunnel underneath in Melbourne they have the Domain Tunnel,
Speaker 3: right they have. Have you seen those green bands of
Speaker 3: light that are projected on the side of the wall.
Speaker 1: I have not because I don't go under the tunnel,
Speaker 1: but I believe you.
Speaker 3: So this was this is a really interesting project. What
Speaker 3: they did was they looked at the flow of traffic
Speaker 3: and because people are going through a tunnel, there's no
Speaker 3: horizon as such, or it's very difficult to gauge when
Speaker 3: you're going up and down. And what they found was
Speaker 3: as people were going up, their speed started to drop.
Speaker 3: And what was happening is there was a slow down
Speaker 3: in traffic. So they came up with this idea of
Speaker 3: having these moving green bands that are projected onto the wall,
Speaker 3: and they found that people subconsciously keep up with the bands,
Speaker 3: and the bands are just automatically to the traffic flow.
Speaker 3: So if there's a lot of traffic but they can
Speaker 3: see a pattern, they will speed up a little bit
Speaker 3: to be safe. But it means people will actually speed
Speaker 3: speed up, not speed up, sorry, not speed, but they
Speaker 3: will increase their speed to match the bands or the movement.
Speaker 3: And it's been designed in such a way that it's
Speaker 3: for the optimum flow of traffic. So the generated light
Speaker 3: on the side of the wall will adjust based on
Speaker 3: the amount of traffic flow to make it d make
Speaker 3: people drive more efficiently.
Speaker 2: I wonder if, well, that's fascinating, is and that's very
Speaker 2: interesting science. I wonder who figured that out? So thank
Speaker 2: you for telling me that. That is fucking fascinating.
Speaker 1: But I wonder if so what they're doing is manipulating
Speaker 1: people without telling people they're manipulating them. Great, I wonder ethically.
Speaker 2: Etceter like. I don't give a fuck. I think it's clever,
Speaker 2: but I just wonder if some people are going to go.
Speaker 1: Oh, nobody consented or nobody consulted us, and you're manipulating
Speaker 1: my driving or my mind with these things that you
Speaker 1: didn't ask me if like, I wonder that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fascinating. The way that our environment can control our
Speaker 1: thinking and our behavior is crazy, and it.
Speaker 3: Does make a lot of sense. When you think about
Speaker 3: being in a tunnel, you do lose all perspective. This
Speaker 3: is slightly similar when you paraglide. I've done a little
Speaker 3: bit of paragliding when and this is going to sound
Speaker 3: so strange, but when you're at a certain height and
Speaker 3: you're paragliding, you don't know if you're going up or
Speaker 3: down because there's no term of reference. And so when
Speaker 3: you fly, you have a device. It's called a variometer,
Speaker 3: and it gives you these audible signals. So it'll increase
Speaker 3: in pitch if you're going up, decrease in pitch if
Speaker 3: you're going down. Because when you're flying and you're in
Speaker 3: the sky, you've got no term of reference. You don't
Speaker 3: have trees, you can't see the trees, you can't see
Speaker 3: hills and things because you're so high. So really our
Speaker 3: brain is fascinating, but also it can play tricks on
Speaker 3: us as well. And you'd think going up or down
Speaker 3: would be such an easy thing to know. And hence
Speaker 3: in the tunnel, going up an incline without any term
Speaker 3: of reference is actually slowing the traffic down. I love
Speaker 3: that sort of stuff. It's so interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you don't really I guess, when you're in space,
Speaker 1: like you're in open space and there's no ground and
Speaker 1: there's no walls or no proximal ground or walls, you
Speaker 1: lose kind of context. You know, there's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: can I just be clear?
Speaker 2: I think I know.
Speaker 1: A paraglide is like a parachute, but it's motorized or no.
Speaker 3: No, a paragly it looks like a parachute, but it's
Speaker 3: much it's just a big wing, so we call them
Speaker 3: a big giant parachute, and it has a lot of
Speaker 3: control lines coming down onto it and break lines, and
Speaker 3: it's the biggest surface area than a parachute. So the
Speaker 3: idea is that you can generate lift if you hit
Speaker 3: a thermal or if you've got an updraft. So if
Speaker 3: you're flying inland, then you thermal. So often you'll see
Speaker 3: eagles taking advantage of a thermal. So it's a sunny
Speaker 3: day and you'll see an eagle just adjusting its wings
Speaker 3: and going up, spiraling up because they've hit a thermal updraft.
Speaker 3: So the heat can cause what they call an updraft
Speaker 3: of air and means that a bird's birds are great
Speaker 3: at this. They take advantage of it. They don't have
Speaker 3: to flap their wings, they just go up the updraft.
Speaker 3: And you can do that in a paraglider, whereas on
Speaker 3: the coast you use what they call, you know, the
Speaker 3: onshore breeze. Hitting a cliff will cause an updraft of
Speaker 3: wind and then you can fly along the edge the
Speaker 3: ridge of a cliff and get lift from that. So
Speaker 3: you basically can ride fly up and down the coast
Speaker 3: without descending and you get a good old flight out
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 2: You're much braver than I thought, because there's fucking no
Speaker 2: chance I would do that. Really, I am no. Do
Speaker 2: I look like a bird? Have you seen any wings
Speaker 2: on me? As if I'm doing that? That's like, oh,
Speaker 2: zero chance, Tiff? Would you do that?
Speaker 3: I think?
Speaker 2: Would you jump off a fucking cliff with that over
Speaker 2: your head?
Speaker 5: I bet more people die in road accidents than they
Speaker 5: do Paragliardi And you're you'll get in a driverless car,
Speaker 5: but not in the sky.
Speaker 1: I'll also get on a motorbike that goes north to
Speaker 1: one hundred and two seconds and have the best time ever.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. Hang on, hang on, hang on,
Speaker 2: why do you Why would you do it? Tiff?
Speaker 4: I think I'd love the feeling of that.
Speaker 5: But then again, when you were talking about that perception
Speaker 5: under the under the tunnel, I was thinking of it's
Speaker 5: the same in a helicopter, and that ship was terrifying
Speaker 5: to adjust to.
Speaker 4: I think I'm not sure. Have to try it and
Speaker 4: see if it.
Speaker 2: If you were standing under me while I was paraguiding
Speaker 2: and be like, oh what's that? Oh that's W that's
Speaker 2: just W coming from jumbo that's just.
Speaker 3: Can I just say, with all respect to both of you,
Speaker 3: I have more chance of jumping off a cliff with
Speaker 3: a piece of fabric over me than stepping in the
Speaker 3: ring and having someone bash the shit out of me
Speaker 3: or get on the back of a bike with you again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm talking about fear non statistics like you're
Speaker 1: being rational.
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm talking about being shit scared on the
Speaker 3: back of the bike with you threading your way in
Speaker 3: around traffic and also getting into a boxing ring. That's scared.
Speaker 3: That's scared of shit out of me? Troll though, Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: Can I just ask statistically how many times have I died?
Speaker 2: I'm going to go zero. It's a very fucking safe bet.
Speaker 3: But it's safe jumping off with a piece of fabric
Speaker 3: that it is getting on your driving through traffic.
Speaker 1: I don't think you have any evidence to support that
Speaker 1: claim because my deaths are zero. Number of deaths in paragliding, Patrick,
Speaker 1: give us another story, talk about something different other than
Speaker 1: Tesla's and fucking me weiing while I'm on a parachute.
Speaker 2: If you could just go somewhere else.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, can I do one more electric car story?
Speaker 3: Because I'm excited about it. Yeah, of course, Huiwei. Huiwei
Speaker 3: the telephone Chinese telephone company aims to have developed a battery,
Speaker 3: a solid state battery with a range of three thousand kilometers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and doesn't it charge in five minutes or something?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 1: I thought, Oh, this is Patrick's going to get a
Speaker 1: fucking hard on when he reads this. You won't be
Speaker 1: able to focus now. So did you read that and
Speaker 1: you just couldn't concentrate.
Speaker 2: For the morning?
Speaker 3: I was pretty yes, So can you just explain?
Speaker 1: Maybe you don't know, I definitely don't know. Did you
Speaker 1: say a solid state battery? What does that mean?
Speaker 3: Look? To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what they're
Speaker 3: doing with theirs, because Mercedes has been doing a similar
Speaker 3: experiment and they have what they're calling a solid state battery.
Speaker 3: So there's something about look at the because we're using
Speaker 3: lithium ion batteries at the moment. Okay, that's the lithium ion,
Speaker 3: but a solid stop. I should probably feel like I
Speaker 3: should know more about this.
Speaker 2: Than can you?
Speaker 3: Can you solid.
Speaker 1: Go into chatters and go what is a solid state battery?
Speaker 1: While Patrick and I keep talking? But what about Patrick,
Speaker 1: what about the practical, Like how amazing would it be
Speaker 1: that you could charge that in five minutes, which is
Speaker 1: analogous to putting petrol in your car in five minutes
Speaker 1: and then drive for I mean even if you do
Speaker 1: five hundred kilometers a week, that's six weeks of driving
Speaker 1: on a five minute charge.
Speaker 3: It's mind blowing, isn't it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know what sort of infrastructure you'd need, or
Speaker 3: whether you could charge at existing charging stations. That's the
Speaker 3: other question is whether you'd have to update all of
Speaker 3: the infrastructure. But yeah, such a game changer, I mean,
Speaker 3: particularly in Australia. And one of the big things here
Speaker 3: in Australia is that it is expensive to buy into
Speaker 3: an electric car and if you want more range, if
Speaker 3: you live out where I live and you're doing longer trips,
Speaker 3: then the range anxiety has been the biggest hurdled the
Speaker 3: uptake of electric cars. Price is also problematic, and I
Speaker 3: think BYD we talked about this recently. Are about to
Speaker 3: release a kind of a budget car price tag that
Speaker 3: they're selling them for in China. Is it around about
Speaker 3: the equivalent of twelve thousand Australian dollars? Is not selling
Speaker 3: them for even if they land here in Australia, with
Speaker 3: imports and all that sort of stuff, you could be
Speaker 3: looking at a sub twenty thousand dollars electric car.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's incredible toif what do you got for us?
Speaker 5: Traditional lithium ion battery is liquid or gel electrolyte, flammable,
Speaker 5: anti aging prone, and not super energy dense. Solid state
Speaker 5: batteries are solid electrolyte, often ceramic glass polymer based, more stable,
Speaker 5: less flammable, and higher energy density.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1: I wonder well, I think also Patrick, like you were
Speaker 1: kind of wondering, which I agree, how much like would
Speaker 1: if that, if that can draw and contain, for one
Speaker 1: of the better descriptions, so much energy so quickly, I
Speaker 1: wonder what, yeah, what that would need to plug into.
Speaker 1: That's not you're not going to plug that into your
Speaker 1: two forty vault socket in the garage.
Speaker 2: AA.
Speaker 3: You might have drived to Mouey to the power station there.
Speaker 1: You might have to plug in, plug into one of
Speaker 1: those great big towers at the SEC.
Speaker 3: But that's that's said. Though that's optimum charging, you still
Speaker 3: should be able to trickle charge it, so you still
Speaker 3: might do an overnight charge. On a conventional charging system,
Speaker 3: it would take longer, but if you're getting that three
Speaker 3: thousand kilometer range, it wouldn't matter so much because you
Speaker 3: just do it overnight.
Speaker 1: Now, as we walk out the door, let's have one
Speaker 1: more conversation about cars, because let's not start a new topic. Well,
Speaker 1: do electric cars make people more car sick?
Speaker 3: Yeah? This is an interesting little story that I saw
Speaker 3: and it makes sense. I am a person who does
Speaker 3: and had as a child, got terribly, terribly sick when
Speaker 3: I was in a car, and for some reason, the
Speaker 3: old what was the big boxy hold and I'm trying
Speaker 3: to think friends of ours had an.
Speaker 2: Old HR or eh yep.
Speaker 3: So when I sat in the back of that, within
Speaker 3: the first thirty seconds I would be car sick. And
Speaker 3: then someone explained to me the reason for that is
Speaker 3: the suspension rolled. So it was luck you're in a boat.
Speaker 3: And with a lot of the new electric cars, the
Speaker 3: acceleration is different, the deceleration is different, and so what's
Speaker 3: happening is people who are passengers. When you get in
Speaker 3: a car, you expect the car to have a certain
Speaker 3: sort of acceleration process going through the Even an automatic car,
Speaker 3: the gear changes will alter the acceleration. But with electric
Speaker 3: cars it's so different that the researchers believe because we're
Speaker 3: talking about a high percentage of people feeling more car sick.
Speaker 3: So this has been some tested stuff like these. These
Speaker 3: PhD students did a whole series of experiments. They looked
Speaker 3: at how people reacted to being in electric cars, and
Speaker 3: they talked about a high percentage of people because brain
Speaker 3: anticipates a certain movement, because we're so conditioned to how
Speaker 3: normal car drives that it's out of sync with what
Speaker 3: the brain is anticipating and that's why people are feeling
Speaker 3: car sick.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the acceleration in electric car is almost totally linear.
Speaker 2: You know, there's no it's like just yeah, one thing,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 1: So let's let you sing as you're generously giving away
Speaker 1: five domains. So if you want to start a business,
Speaker 1: or you want to start a website, just hit up.
Speaker 1: Boy Wonder is very generously offered to give away some
Speaker 1: of his time and his intellectual property and a couple
Speaker 1: of web website or web addresses, i should say.
Speaker 2: Or domain names.
Speaker 1: Just remind people how to do that, and give you
Speaker 1: a show, give your business a plug because you deserve it.
Speaker 3: Oh thanks mate. Now just websites now dot com dot
Speaker 3: au and you can jump on there and contact me
Speaker 3: in a little bit of a chat if you want to.
Speaker 1: The up butter Cup, We appreciate you, Tiff love the
Speaker 1: banana jacket, couldn't love it more, couldn't love it more?
Speaker 1: And the Clark Kent Spectacles that makes you look about
Speaker 1: twenty IQ points smarter.
Speaker 2: And the wedding ring, the wedding ring around your neck.
Speaker 1: Just waiting for Patrick to jump the fence and realize
Speaker 1: what he's missing out on.
Speaker 4: That's the hook for him. That's the really mean.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what he'd be waiting for a while.
Speaker 1: He's been waiting for me to put that around my neck.
Speaker 1: But that's not coming. I will say goodbye, fair but Patrick,
Speaker 1: thank you, Tip, thank you,