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Speaker 1: with boy wander up there in Bland, the thriving metropolis

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Speaker 2: Hi, mate, how are you?

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Speaker 3: It was so cold yesterday that I was worried Fritz

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Speaker 1: Oh, frozen Fritz. That sounds like some kind of streets product.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, I have, yeah, lickety split and a frozen Fritz.

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Speaker 3: It was so cold. It was so it's been so freezing,

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Speaker 3: there and it stays warm for about Oh look, if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, can I throw down a challenge for you

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 1: underneath for haughty. I'm not a bogain at all. That's

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Speaker 3: Oh? Well, I go to the gym first, so that's

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Speaker 1: So here's my It's something I've been doing. It's going

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Speaker 2: How you go.

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Speaker 1: So instead of having to do an ice bath or

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Speaker 2: So wear some gloves, but nothing else.

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Speaker 4: Because I'm a fancy I'm very fancy and.

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Speaker 1: So this is not incidental networking. These are groups that

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Speaker 5: Me come along and hang out with them, and it's

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Speaker 5: People yourself invited. I'm going to haul you along and

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Speaker 5: guess what. This one's halfway between where you live and

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Speaker 4: Don't go further now, it's half way to Wellwood?

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Speaker 2: Hey, can I just point out, you know you're not

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Speaker 3: How about we vote? How about we vote to votes?

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Speaker 1: I'm a megalamoniac. He's a megalomaniac. Maniacal podcast. Do you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking like, get comfortable if you want me to

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Speaker 2: Good work me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, normal people sneak out to me, to girlfriend, go

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Speaker 3: Yeah. When I finally went to the doctor after a

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Speaker 2: You're an idiot. Did you sit up last night writing that?

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Speaker 1: Actually, I want to start with okay, can we start

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Speaker 3: Well, look, it's funny. I was reading an article recently

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Speaker 3: How do you spell it? Is it e f f CT?

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Speaker 1: The most expensive typo in the history of typo's.

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Speaker 3: But you know, he went with it because that's his name,

437
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Speaker 3: fred Awin.

438
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Speaker 2: But now I think I think Freda's got an eye

439
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Speaker 2: in it?

440
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,120
Speaker 3: Is it advice to leaders Freda though?

441
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Speaker 1: But back back to your point about the rapist. I

442
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 1: had a friend. I met a guy who came into

443
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Speaker 1: one of the gyms I was working out. His name

444
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 1: was Norbert Vonzumhoff right, what German? Yeah, Norbert monhim half right,

445
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 1: Shout out to Normady if he's around. We used to

446
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 1: call him normal anyway. He'd only been out from Germany

447
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: for not long. He was a level ten gymnast. Moved

448
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: to Australia. Him and I started just working out together. Anyway,

449
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: One day we were out and we were walking along

450
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 1: and there was a physiotherapist right sign physio and he's like,

451
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: what is physio?

452
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 2: The rapist? So same thing?

453
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 3: What is?

454
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Speaker 2: He goes Craig, what is Physio the Rapist? And I'm

455
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 2: like what. He goes, Physio the Rapist? What is it?

456
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: And I'm like what And then he points to the sign.

457
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 1: I'll go, oh fuck, that's physiotherapist bro. And he's like, no,

458
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 1: do you O the Rapist? I'm like, no, that's not

459
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 1: a the just it's this. Yeah, I get it. But

460
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 1: so yeah, So getting your domain name and not accidentally

461
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: getting something you don't want as a challenge, right.

462
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 3: Some advice for you, So think carefully because you're stuck

463
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 3: with it for a long time.

464
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 1: Like one of the things that you do is build

465
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Speaker 1: websites and do you get domain names for people and stuff.

466
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 3: For yea, yeah, yeah, do all that sort of stuff.

467
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 3: So it's kind of like, I mean, it makes sense.

468
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 3: It's all those bits and pieces that all slot together.

469
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Speaker 3: So the first part is trying to get the right

470
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Speaker 3: domain name and really thinking about things that are spelt

471
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Speaker 3: and how people see them as being spelt as well.

472
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Speaker 3: You know, do you put the number one or do

473
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Speaker 3: you have one? So if it was Craig Harper number

474
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Speaker 3: one trainer, would you have the number one or would

475
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 3: you have So sometimes you've got to register more than

476
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 3: one domain name to make sure you get both. Does

477
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Speaker 3: that makes sense?

478
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well I remember when.

479
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes I think I don't know MELI did all that,

480
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: but I think craigharba dot net. We've also got craigharba

481
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: dot org, dot dot net, AU dot net without the

482
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Speaker 1: au dot just in case, you know, other people use it.

483
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Speaker 3: It's not a bad idea. It's brand protection because you know,

484
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 3: one of the exciting things. I thought it was exciting,

485
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 3: but a lot of people were skeptical about it. So

486
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,959
Speaker 3: the official domain registrar in Australia is called outer au

487
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 3: DA and it's a not for comforit organization that manages

488
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Speaker 3: all the domain names in Australia, so all the dubdub

489
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Speaker 3: dubs that have an AU extension. So a dot com

490
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 3: is American, dot UK is UK dot NZ as New

491
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 3: Zealand Australia's are AU. But what they did was one

492
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Speaker 3: of the problems with that was you you needed to

493
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Speaker 3: have an ABN or an acn C, needed to be

494
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Speaker 3: a registered business to register a dot com dot AU

495
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Speaker 3: and it left a lot of people, maybe hobbyists or

496
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Speaker 3: enthusiasts who don't have a company or a business structure.

497
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Speaker 3: So a few years ago they released what they called

498
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Speaker 3: AU Direct, so you could register tiff Cook dot au

499
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 3: and because it didn't have the dot com dot Au,

500
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Speaker 3: you could just register it. As long as you're an

501
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 3: Australian citizen and you can prove you're an Australian, then

502
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 3: you're entitled to have an AU direct domain name, which

503
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 3: is great because it meant that people, because I think

504
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 3: it instills a lot more confidence. When I'm shopping online

505
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 3: and I want an Australian company, I will I'm more

506
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 3: likely and this has been proven people are more likely

507
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,479
Speaker 3: to be confident in an a dot com dot au

508
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 3: domain name than are just a dot com domain name.

509
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 3: Do you find that tip when you go shopping or

510
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 3: looking online that you look for the AU extension. I

511
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 3: know it's something that I certainly do.

512
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, if i'm yeah, if I'm buying online, I do.

513
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 3: M because it means a that they're Australian business and

514
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 3: it's and then the hurdles are a little bit harder

515
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: to cross anyway. Anybody can register a dot com, but

516
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 3: you have to have an a b N or an ACN,

517
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 3: so you've got to be an Australian business to get

518
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 3: that dot com dot AU extension.

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Speaker 2: I remember, correct me if I'm wrong.

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00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if this has changed, but there was

521
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: a real time, mate, where people would kind of try

522
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: to anticipate what might be big, and they'd register a

523
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: bunch of you know, web addresses or domain names. So

524
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 1: let's say, for example, you had a YouTube channel, Patrick

525
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: Bonello fucking Live and it started to boom, and like

526
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: you're sitting at four million followers, and I go, I

527
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: wonder if he's got a website, and I realized you

528
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 1: don't have a website, so I go, fuckety fuck. So

529
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: I register Patrick Bonello dot everything and then I've got

530
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: a monopoly on that. Then I then you go, hey mate,

531
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 1: I'm I'm actually Patrick Bonello.

532
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 2: I want that?

533
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: Can I buy it? And I go, sure, thirty grand?

534
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: So that was happening for a while, Wasn't it a lot?

535
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 3: It still does happen in the dot com space. That's

536
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 3: such a good question, because I'd looked to register my

537
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 3: family's surname. I'm talking when I knew you all that

538
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 3: time out and in America had registered it as a

539
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 3: dot com and he wanted two thousand dollars for it.

540
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't want to pay two thousand dollars

541
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 3: for that. I don't know what it'd be like now

542
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 3: now that I'm super Yeah, But the thing is that's

543
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,959
Speaker 3: so that's called cyber squatting, and you can if you

544
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 3: can find a dot com, anybody can buy one. And

545
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 3: that again comes down to why it's less likely in

546
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 3: Australia because you have to have the ABN. And I

547
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 3: had one of my this happened to one of my

548
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 3: clients where they bought a business from somebody, but the

549
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 3: person who registered the domain name of the business was

550
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 3: a marketing person and she relinquished the domain name and

551
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 3: then somebody snapped it up so their own domain name

552
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 3: they didn't have access to, and so we appealed that

553
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 3: to the official authority outer and they relinquished it to

554
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 3: them because the person who registered it had no claim

555
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 3: to that name. And that's where the protection is in Australia.

556
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 3: So someone registered create craigharper dot au, which is the

557
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 3: day Au direct extension, which Melissa may not have registered. Quick,

558
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 3: everybody have a look and see if it's there. So

559
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 3: if I went and registered it because I thought, oh

560
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 3: now harps hasn't got that one. I'm going to register

561
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 3: it and see if I can sell it to him. Well,

562
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 3: you have claim to be able to go back and say, well, no,

563
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 3: this is my name, it's my brand and you have

564
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 3: to give it to me. And if ow to the

565
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: Australian authority, demain authority, says he actually, you know what

566
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 3: it is, his name, we'll relinquish it and then you'll

567
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 3: be able to snap it up and go and get it.

568
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 2: Patrick.

569
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: You know how the kids use that term balling, Like

570
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: if people are doing great, they're balling.

571
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: Have you heard that? Or no, I'm too old, Tiff.

572
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: Have you heard that? No? Really?

573
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: Okay, So like if someone's a baller, they're fucking crushing it,

574
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: they're killing it.

575
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 3: Yep.

576
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: Okay, look at Patrick, he's looking it up.

577
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 3: I'm looking up your domain.

578
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: There's two people on my show other than me, and

579
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: they're both fucking typing on their computers.

580
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: Everyone.

581
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 4: I was just chicking roll with the punches.

582
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 5: Dot com is available for for a steal at twenty

583
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 5: four eighty eight usd ah.

584
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: You should definitely buy that. I might buy it and

585
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: give it to you for Christmas. I don't know how

586
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: i'd wrap it anyway. I was going to say something hilarious,

587
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: but you two unlike me when I support your rap,

588
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: like me when.

589
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: You're going off at a tangent.

590
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: I pretend I'm interested, but you too just fucking type

591
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: on your computers.

592
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, you don't understand the pressure I work under here.

593
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 3: Have freeball.

594
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: No, Hey, I'm an only child. That's your chances coming

595
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: gone track.

596
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 3: Hey, Craigo, just say you know. If you want, anybody

597
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: out there wants to register Craig's domain name, you can

598
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 3: register Craigharper dot Sydney dot Melbourne, dot NZ, dot co

599
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 3: dot NZ, dot org Au dot org, dot I dot online,

600
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 3: dot site dot tech. There is a stack, mate, You're screwed.

601
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 3: Everyone's going to have a Craigharper website by don't.

602
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 4: I'm so mad at you.

603
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 3: Patrick, to be so mad.

604
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: If she could find a way to fucking bland, she'd

605
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: poke you in your piece, Tiff.

606
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: Only Tiff comes and visits me in bla.

607
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 4: She's when it's minus five degrees. Give stuff. Yeah, good

608
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 4: points for summertime.

609
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: Patrick.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, seeing as you're a person who helps

611
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: people with websites and business, and you should.

612
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: You should like.

613
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: Give away a website or not a website, a domain. Like,

614
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: if somebody's thinking of starting their business, can they reach

615
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: out to you, and you, out of the generosity of

616
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: your heart, give them a free domain?

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00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I will. I'll give them a free domain. Yeah, seriously,

618
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 3: I will. Yeah, if you're thinking of setting up business,

619
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Speaker 3: we'll talk about what you're going to register, and I

620
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 3: will register it for you and give it to you.

621
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 3: That's two years. If it's a dot com today year,

622
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 3: you can register for two years and I'll give it to.

623
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: Just make make sure you go with the one that

624
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: Tiff that just said that's twenty twenty.

625
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 2: Four grand, go with that one.

626
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: I think there might be an asterisk next to this offer.

627
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: But what if it's like Patrick, what if there's like

628
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: five people who contact you?

629
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: What are you just going to turn away for all?

630
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 3: Right, I'll do five. That's it. The ceiling is okay,

631
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 3: I can't. I love how we spending my money. Tip.

632
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: What if there's a hundred.

633
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,959
Speaker 5: Give away a service he's asking you to pay for

634
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 5: a sent it cost you money?

635
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is exactly what I'm doing LS the challenge there,

636
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 3: you get it. Five.

637
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: I'm all about my audience.

638
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 3: I will give away five domain names. I'm rising to

639
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 3: the challenge.

640
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: There you go, five domain names.

641
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: And so all right, and how do people contact you

642
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: if they want one of those domain Now?

643
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: Already it sounds very much like a setup. This wasn't planned.

644
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: This is not a setup, but it sounds like it.

645
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: So how do people reach out?

646
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 3: Also, we're talking you, Patrick is broke.

647
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the worst podcast of all time because

648
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: we're all fucking talking over each other. I apologize listeners.

649
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: I'm probably the worst offender. Can people actually, at no

650
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: extra cost talk.

651
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: To you on the phone?

652
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: Yeah? Of course I love talking to people, haven't. It's

653
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 3: get him any shut ups the problem?

654
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: All right? So all right just repeat? Okay, So how

655
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Speaker 2: do they reach out to you? Do they phone you?

656
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: Do they email you? Do they drive to your house?

657
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Speaker 3: They can flat Oh, they can command of coffee. Well,

658
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 3: they got to pay for the coffee, though, if you

659
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Speaker 3: want to come to the land, you're gonna buy me

660
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Speaker 3: coffee at the very least, I reckon. But no website websites, noow,

661
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 3: dot com dot au. You've got all my contact details.

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Speaker 3: You can even come and pat Fritz and we'll go

663
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Speaker 3: for a walk. With Fritz that would be nice.

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Speaker 1: And Patrick, if you get up there at three am,

665
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Speaker 1: Patrick will be in his dick togs and his gloves.

666
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Speaker 1: And because who's doing a ten minute cold walk every day?

667
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Speaker 3: Do you reckon web?

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Speaker 2: Chance? Tip puts up a hand like she's at school.

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Speaker 4: A good question that the listeners are dying to know.

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Speaker 4: The answerity.

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Speaker 5: Is the starting price range for a basic website by you?

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Speaker 4: Patrick?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's actually a really good question. If you were

675
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: doing a really basic website. I think you're probably looking

676
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 3: at about say twelve hundred to fifteen hundred dollars for

677
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Speaker 3: a basic site, and that includes hosting for twelve months.

678
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 3: That's a good question. Is the starting price I guess

679
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: is what you'd be looking at, And it really depends

680
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Speaker 3: because it's how big is a piece of string. But

681
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 3: one of the things I've always thought about, and this

682
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: is another piece of advice, if you are looking for

683
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Speaker 3: a website and you're speaking to somebody, not just me,

684
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 3: but if you're speaking to someone, make sure you reachister

685
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 3: the domain name in your business name, make sure that

686
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 3: you have control over the website and basic instructions on

687
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: how to update it. Because the thing is one of

688
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 3: the catches that sometimes happens with websites is someone will

689
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 3: design it and then you've got to go back to

690
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: them for every single change, and every time they change it,

691
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 3: they charge you. So I've take the fish in an approach,

692
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 3: you know, give them a fishing ride and teach them

693
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 3: how to fish. And that way people can make the

694
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Speaker 3: changes and all that's themselves. So you know, if you've

695
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 3: got a ten page or a five page or a

696
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Speaker 3: one page site, but you want to add more content

697
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Speaker 3: and do it yourself, then you should be able to

698
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. That's do you update your

699
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Speaker 3: own site? Don't you? Tif?

700
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do. I was just lat thing because I

701
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 4: was like, is that a trick?

702
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 3: Now? Is that?

703
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Speaker 5: So they get in the back end ruin everything and

704
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Speaker 5: then you actually make more to fix the Nah? No,

705
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 5: we do.

706
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Speaker 2: We do.

707
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 3: We back up every day. So we always say to

708
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Speaker 3: people if your balls up your website, if you break it,

709
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Speaker 3: we'll just roll it back to the day before.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it happens, you need your back end addressed, just

711
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Speaker 1: contact Patrick.

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Speaker 2: All right, So is there any I mean that's the

713
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Speaker 2: take time, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So is there any chance we could do some tech tech,

716
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Speaker 2: some tech Yeah, well any chance.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to fucking throw a spanner

718
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: in your sales pitch. You're overt shameless sales pitch that

719
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: you're clearly ran tip before the show said ah, hey

720
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Speaker 1: could you ask this but make it sound like we

721
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: haven't organized it. That was shameless. Tell us some tech news.

722
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Speaker 2: Earn your money, will you?

723
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 3: Okay, we're going to make some money now to pay

724
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 3: for those bloody domain names I've just flogged off. Hey

725
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 3: I'm Tesla owners. Okay, there's a lot of Tesla news

726
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 3: out at the moment because there's a group in Australia

727
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 3: that are looking at doing a class action against Tesla

728
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 3: because there's suggestions that sometimes they will break, So Tesla

729
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 3: owners are looking for some competition. They're talking about potentially

730
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Speaker 3: hazardous situation if the car suddenly breaks and you didn't

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Speaker 3: hit the brake.

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Speaker 2: So ah, you're talking about br A K E.

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Speaker 1: And I were thinking break occasionally breaks.

734
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Speaker 3: And some breaking.

735
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Speaker 2: Sorry gall listen to what I said.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were saying break, Yeah, as in the

737
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Speaker 1: car breaks.

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Speaker 3: Oh sorry, it breaks and breaks down? Yes, breaking, No,

739
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Speaker 3: we're talking about.

740
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Speaker 2: You mean it like it applies. The breaks randomly.

741
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Speaker 3: Right during autopilot mode.

742
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Speaker 2: Mike, I'm thinking this is not a big story.

743
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Speaker 3: All cars fucking break when you're in cruise control autopilot mode.

744
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 3: The car can rapidly decelerate for no reason. This is

745
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 3: allegations that are floating around, and they're trying to get

746
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Speaker 3: a class action. So it's happening at the moment. Tesler

747
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 3: owners are being asked to sign to this class action

748
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Speaker 3: and they're looking to take it to the federal court

749
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Speaker 3: later this year. But evidently thousands of Tesla owners are

750
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 3: into this. And the interesting thing is that just this

751
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: week in Austin, Texas, the first robotaxis hit the road.

752
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Speaker 3: I think about eight or twenty, sorry, between ten and

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Speaker 3: twenty robotaxis. So robotaxis, we have no driver. You get

754
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Speaker 3: in the cab, you sit in the back, you tell

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Speaker 3: them the destination or you verbally say it, I guess,

756
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 3: and then you press a button to start and the

757
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: taxi takes off. Now they've got real drivers sitting on

758
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Speaker 3: the right hand side, so the passeng the driver's seats empty,

759
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 3: and they have monitoring drivers for safety. At the moment,

760
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Speaker 3: I don't know what they're going to do, just scream

761
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 3: more as they ram into something. But I've been watching

762
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Speaker 3: some because I have watching some YouTube videos of people

763
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Speaker 3: getting into taxis and then drive it around. But evidently

764
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Speaker 3: there's been concerns because they're driving erradically. There was an

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Speaker 3: instance where there was some police parked on the side

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Speaker 3: of the road and the car suddenly breaked. There was

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Speaker 3: another instance where a car turned and went into the

768
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Speaker 3: wrong lane. I don't know how comfortable you guys would

769
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Speaker 3: be getting into a robotaxi with no one behind the wheel,

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Speaker 3: would you?

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Speaker 1: I definitely would. I don't know why I'm excited to. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd love that shit ah once. I mean, if there

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Speaker 1: was one in how Hampton and it would take me

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Speaker 1: into the city drop me off for a speaking gig,

775
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Speaker 1: I'd fucking jump in in five minutes.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever heard of uber?

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Speaker 2: I don't want to. I'd rather sit in the car

778
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Speaker 2: with no one just snob.

779
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm about to.

780
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Speaker 2: I want some quiet time before I'm with all the humans.

781
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Speaker 2: I don't want to talk to old mate.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I will talk to old mate if he

783
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Speaker 1: or she is there. But yeah, but no, would you not?

784
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Speaker 1: Tif would you not get in a driverless car?

785
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Speaker 5: Not? After hearing what is going on with Tesla.

786
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Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm a bit dubious. It's a it's

787
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Speaker 4: a bit scary.

788
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean I would.

789
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Speaker 1: But also with the advent of yeah, autonomous cars or

790
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Speaker 1: whatever driverless cars down the track, when they're proven to

791
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Speaker 1: be safer than driver cars, I'd gladly sit in the

792
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Speaker 1: car and let it take Ron and Mary while I

793
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Speaker 1: do some work in the back seat, maybe watch a

794
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Speaker 1: rom com.

795
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 2: I don't know, fucking have a snooze.

796
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 3: There's a lot to be said though, in all honesty,

797
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 3: if you had all the vehicles on the road as autonomous,

798
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Speaker 3: we would probably reduce traffic by so much. Would think

799
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Speaker 3: about why people slow, you know, there's so many studies

800
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 3: into the patterns of people when they're driving. You know,

801
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 3: for example, if there's something on the side of the road,

802
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 3: anyone rubbernecks and they slow down to check out, Well,

803
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Speaker 3: that wouldn't happen in a ROBOTAXI. So, I know we've

804
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 3: spoken about this on the show. But you know in

805
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 3: the tunnel underneath in Melbourne they have the Domain Tunnel,

806
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: right they have. Have you seen those green bands of

807
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Speaker 3: light that are projected on the side of the wall.

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Speaker 1: I have not because I don't go under the tunnel,

809
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Speaker 1: but I believe you.

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00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 3: So this was this is a really interesting project. What

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Speaker 3: they did was they looked at the flow of traffic

812
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Speaker 3: and because people are going through a tunnel, there's no

813
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Speaker 3: horizon as such, or it's very difficult to gauge when

814
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Speaker 3: you're going up and down. And what they found was

815
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Speaker 3: as people were going up, their speed started to drop.

816
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Speaker 3: And what was happening is there was a slow down

817
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Speaker 3: in traffic. So they came up with this idea of

818
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Speaker 3: having these moving green bands that are projected onto the wall,

819
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Speaker 3: and they found that people subconsciously keep up with the bands,

820
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Speaker 3: and the bands are just automatically to the traffic flow.

821
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Speaker 3: So if there's a lot of traffic but they can

822
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Speaker 3: see a pattern, they will speed up a little bit

823
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Speaker 3: to be safe. But it means people will actually speed

824
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Speaker 3: speed up, not speed up, sorry, not speed, but they

825
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 3: will increase their speed to match the bands or the movement.

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Speaker 3: And it's been designed in such a way that it's

827
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Speaker 3: for the optimum flow of traffic. So the generated light

828
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Speaker 3: on the side of the wall will adjust based on

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Speaker 3: the amount of traffic flow to make it d make

830
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Speaker 3: people drive more efficiently.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if, well, that's fascinating, is and that's very

832
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Speaker 2: interesting science. I wonder who figured that out? So thank

833
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Speaker 2: you for telling me that. That is fucking fascinating.

834
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Speaker 1: But I wonder if so what they're doing is manipulating

835
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Speaker 1: people without telling people they're manipulating them. Great, I wonder ethically.

836
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 2: Etceter like. I don't give a fuck. I think it's clever,

837
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: but I just wonder if some people are going to go.

838
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: Oh, nobody consented or nobody consulted us, and you're manipulating

839
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: my driving or my mind with these things that you

840
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: didn't ask me if like, I wonder that. But yeah,

841
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: that's fascinating. The way that our environment can control our

842
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: thinking and our behavior is crazy, and it.

843
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 3: Does make a lot of sense. When you think about

844
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 3: being in a tunnel, you do lose all perspective. This

845
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 3: is slightly similar when you paraglide. I've done a little

846
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: bit of paragliding when and this is going to sound

847
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 3: so strange, but when you're at a certain height and

848
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 3: you're paragliding, you don't know if you're going up or

849
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 3: down because there's no term of reference. And so when

850
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 3: you fly, you have a device. It's called a variometer,

851
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 3: and it gives you these audible signals. So it'll increase

852
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: in pitch if you're going up, decrease in pitch if

853
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 3: you're going down. Because when you're flying and you're in

854
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 3: the sky, you've got no term of reference. You don't

855
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 3: have trees, you can't see the trees, you can't see

856
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 3: hills and things because you're so high. So really our

857
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 3: brain is fascinating, but also it can play tricks on

858
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: us as well. And you'd think going up or down

859
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 3: would be such an easy thing to know. And hence

860
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 3: in the tunnel, going up an incline without any term

861
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: of reference is actually slowing the traffic down. I love

862
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 3: that sort of stuff. It's so interesting.

863
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you don't really I guess, when you're in space,

864
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: like you're in open space and there's no ground and

865
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: there's no walls or no proximal ground or walls, you

866
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: lose kind of context. You know, there's like, oh, yeah,

867
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Speaker 1: can I just be clear?

868
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Speaker 2: I think I know.

869
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 1: A paraglide is like a parachute, but it's motorized or no.

870
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 3: No, a paragly it looks like a parachute, but it's

871
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 3: much it's just a big wing, so we call them

872
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 3: a big giant parachute, and it has a lot of

873
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 3: control lines coming down onto it and break lines, and

874
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 3: it's the biggest surface area than a parachute. So the

875
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 3: idea is that you can generate lift if you hit

876
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: a thermal or if you've got an updraft. So if

877
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 3: you're flying inland, then you thermal. So often you'll see

878
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 3: eagles taking advantage of a thermal. So it's a sunny

879
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 3: day and you'll see an eagle just adjusting its wings

880
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: and going up, spiraling up because they've hit a thermal updraft.

881
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 3: So the heat can cause what they call an updraft

882
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 3: of air and means that a bird's birds are great

883
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 3: at this. They take advantage of it. They don't have

884
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 3: to flap their wings, they just go up the updraft.

885
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 3: And you can do that in a paraglider, whereas on

886
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 3: the coast you use what they call, you know, the

887
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 3: onshore breeze. Hitting a cliff will cause an updraft of

888
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 3: wind and then you can fly along the edge the

889
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 3: ridge of a cliff and get lift from that. So

890
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: you basically can ride fly up and down the coast

891
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 3: without descending and you get a good old flight out

892
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: of it.

893
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 2: You're much braver than I thought, because there's fucking no

894
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 2: chance I would do that. Really, I am no. Do

895
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: I look like a bird? Have you seen any wings

896
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 2: on me? As if I'm doing that? That's like, oh,

897
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: zero chance, Tiff? Would you do that?

898
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 3: I think?

899
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 2: Would you jump off a fucking cliff with that over

900
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 2: your head?

901
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 5: I bet more people die in road accidents than they

902
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 5: do Paragliardi And you're you'll get in a driverless car,

903
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 5: but not in the sky.

904
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: I'll also get on a motorbike that goes north to

905
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: one hundred and two seconds and have the best time ever.

906
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: But I don't know. Hang on, hang on, hang on,

907
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 2: why do you Why would you do it? Tiff?

908
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 4: I think I'd love the feeling of that.

909
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 5: But then again, when you were talking about that perception

910
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 5: under the under the tunnel, I was thinking of it's

911
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 5: the same in a helicopter, and that ship was terrifying

912
00:44:58,640 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 5: to adjust to.

913
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 4: I think I'm not sure. Have to try it and

914
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 4: see if it.

915
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: If you were standing under me while I was paraguiding

916
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: and be like, oh what's that? Oh that's W that's

917
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: just W coming from jumbo that's just.

918
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 3: Can I just say, with all respect to both of you,

919
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 3: I have more chance of jumping off a cliff with

920
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 3: a piece of fabric over me than stepping in the

921
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 3: ring and having someone bash the shit out of me

922
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 3: or get on the back of a bike with you again.

923
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm talking about fear non statistics like you're

924
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: being rational.

925
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm talking about being shit scared on the

926
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 3: back of the bike with you threading your way in

927
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 3: around traffic and also getting into a boxing ring. That's scared.

928
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: That's scared of shit out of me? Troll though, Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

929
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 1: Can I just ask statistically how many times have I died?

930
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: I'm going to go zero. It's a very fucking safe bet.

931
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 3: But it's safe jumping off with a piece of fabric

932
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 3: that it is getting on your driving through traffic.

933
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: I don't think you have any evidence to support that

934
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: claim because my deaths are zero. Number of deaths in paragliding, Patrick,

935
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: give us another story, talk about something different other than

936
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: Tesla's and fucking me weiing while I'm on a parachute.

937
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: If you could just go somewhere else.

938
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,479
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, can I do one more electric car story?

939
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 3: Because I'm excited about it. Yeah, of course, Huiwei. Huiwei

940
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 3: the telephone Chinese telephone company aims to have developed a battery,

941
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 3: a solid state battery with a range of three thousand kilometers.

942
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and doesn't it charge in five minutes or something?

943
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 3: Yes?

944
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that.

945
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: I thought, Oh, this is Patrick's going to get a

946
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: fucking hard on when he reads this. You won't be

947
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: able to focus now. So did you read that and

948
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: you just couldn't concentrate.

949
00:46:58,600 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: For the morning?

950
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 3: I was pretty yes, So can you just explain?

951
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: Maybe you don't know, I definitely don't know. Did you

952
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: say a solid state battery? What does that mean?

953
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 3: Look? To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what they're

954
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 3: doing with theirs, because Mercedes has been doing a similar

955
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 3: experiment and they have what they're calling a solid state battery.

956
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 3: So there's something about look at the because we're using

957
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 3: lithium ion batteries at the moment. Okay, that's the lithium ion,

958
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 3: but a solid stop. I should probably feel like I

959
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 3: should know more about this.

960
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: Than can you?

961
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 3: Can you solid.

962
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: Go into chatters and go what is a solid state battery?

963
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: While Patrick and I keep talking? But what about Patrick,

964
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: what about the practical, Like how amazing would it be

965
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: that you could charge that in five minutes, which is

966
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: analogous to putting petrol in your car in five minutes

967
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: and then drive for I mean even if you do

968
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: five hundred kilometers a week, that's six weeks of driving

969
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 1: on a five minute charge.

970
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 3: It's mind blowing, isn't it.

971
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 5: Yeah.

972
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 3: I don't know what sort of infrastructure you'd need, or

973
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 3: whether you could charge at existing charging stations. That's the

974
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 3: other question is whether you'd have to update all of

975
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 3: the infrastructure. But yeah, such a game changer, I mean,

976
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 3: particularly in Australia. And one of the big things here

977
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 3: in Australia is that it is expensive to buy into

978
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 3: an electric car and if you want more range, if

979
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 3: you live out where I live and you're doing longer trips,

980
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 3: then the range anxiety has been the biggest hurdled the

981
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 3: uptake of electric cars. Price is also problematic, and I

982
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 3: think BYD we talked about this recently. Are about to

983
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 3: release a kind of a budget car price tag that

984
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,919
Speaker 3: they're selling them for in China. Is it around about

985
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 3: the equivalent of twelve thousand Australian dollars? Is not selling

986
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 3: them for even if they land here in Australia, with

987
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 3: imports and all that sort of stuff, you could be

988
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 3: looking at a sub twenty thousand dollars electric car.

989
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 2: Wow, that's incredible toif what do you got for us?

990
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 5: Traditional lithium ion battery is liquid or gel electrolyte, flammable,

991
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 5: anti aging prone, and not super energy dense. Solid state

992
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 5: batteries are solid electrolyte, often ceramic glass polymer based, more stable,

993
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 5: less flammable, and higher energy density.

994
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 3: Wow.

995
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good.

996
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: I wonder well, I think also Patrick, like you were

997
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: kind of wondering, which I agree, how much like would

998
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: if that, if that can draw and contain, for one

999
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: of the better descriptions, so much energy so quickly, I

1000
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: wonder what, yeah, what that would need to plug into.

1001
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: That's not you're not going to plug that into your

1002
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: two forty vault socket in the garage.

1003
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: AA.

1004
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 3: You might have drived to Mouey to the power station there.

1005
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: You might have to plug in, plug into one of

1006
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: those great big towers at the SEC.

1007
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 3: But that's that's said. Though that's optimum charging, you still

1008
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 3: should be able to trickle charge it, so you still

1009
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 3: might do an overnight charge. On a conventional charging system,

1010
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 3: it would take longer, but if you're getting that three

1011
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 3: thousand kilometer range, it wouldn't matter so much because you

1012
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 3: just do it overnight.

1013
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: Now, as we walk out the door, let's have one

1014
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: more conversation about cars, because let's not start a new topic. Well,

1015
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: do electric cars make people more car sick?

1016
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 3: Yeah? This is an interesting little story that I saw

1017
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 3: and it makes sense. I am a person who does

1018
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: and had as a child, got terribly, terribly sick when

1019
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 3: I was in a car, and for some reason, the

1020
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 3: old what was the big boxy hold and I'm trying

1021
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 3: to think friends of ours had an.

1022
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 2: Old HR or eh yep.

1023
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 3: So when I sat in the back of that, within

1024
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 3: the first thirty seconds I would be car sick. And

1025
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 3: then someone explained to me the reason for that is

1026
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 3: the suspension rolled. So it was luck you're in a boat.

1027
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 3: And with a lot of the new electric cars, the

1028
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 3: acceleration is different, the deceleration is different, and so what's

1029
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 3: happening is people who are passengers. When you get in

1030
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 3: a car, you expect the car to have a certain

1031
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 3: sort of acceleration process going through the Even an automatic car,

1032
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 3: the gear changes will alter the acceleration. But with electric

1033
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 3: cars it's so different that the researchers believe because we're

1034
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 3: talking about a high percentage of people feeling more car sick.

1035
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 3: So this has been some tested stuff like these. These

1036
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 3: PhD students did a whole series of experiments. They looked

1037
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 3: at how people reacted to being in electric cars, and

1038
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 3: they talked about a high percentage of people because brain

1039
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 3: anticipates a certain movement, because we're so conditioned to how

1040
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 3: normal car drives that it's out of sync with what

1041
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 3: the brain is anticipating and that's why people are feeling

1042
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:58,479
Speaker 3: car sick.

1043
00:51:59,040 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 2: Wow.

1044
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the acceleration in electric car is almost totally linear.

1045
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 2: You know, there's no it's like just yeah, one thing,

1046
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 2: all right.

1047
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: So let's let you sing as you're generously giving away

1048
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: five domains. So if you want to start a business,

1049
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: or you want to start a website, just hit up.

1050
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: Boy Wonder is very generously offered to give away some

1051
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: of his time and his intellectual property and a couple

1052
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: of web website or web addresses, i should say.

1053
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 2: Or domain names.

1054
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: Just remind people how to do that, and give you

1055
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: a show, give your business a plug because you deserve it.

1056
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,439
Speaker 3: Oh thanks mate. Now just websites now dot com dot

1057
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 3: au and you can jump on there and contact me

1058
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 3: in a little bit of a chat if you want to.

1059
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: The up butter Cup, We appreciate you, Tiff love the

1060
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,280
Speaker 1: banana jacket, couldn't love it more, couldn't love it more?

1061
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: And the Clark Kent Spectacles that makes you look about

1062
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: twenty IQ points smarter.

1063
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 2: And the wedding ring, the wedding ring around your neck.

1064
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: Just waiting for Patrick to jump the fence and realize

1065
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: what he's missing out on.

1066
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 4: That's the hook for him. That's the really mean.

1067
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what he'd be waiting for a while.

1068
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: He's been waiting for me to put that around my neck.

1069
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: But that's not coming. I will say goodbye, fair but Patrick,

1070
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: thank you, Tip, thank you,