WEBVTT - Round 13 Takeaways

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, coops, how are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Never been better yourself?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Pretty good. It's careful.

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<v Speaker 2>Then that's right in your hand.

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<v Speaker 1>Good by spidy. Yesterday right, the worst thing I've managed

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<v Speaker 1>made I am worst thing about it went yesterday and

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<v Speaker 1>she just got on a roll.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me the same. I'm interested.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, look, I'm going to be late for work.

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<v Speaker 1>I was making that up. And she goes, just just

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<v Speaker 1>can you just put all these leaves in the green bins?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. And as I bend down, she goes, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to put some gloves on. I went, Jesus Christ, just

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<v Speaker 1>bang as I'm a bad printed in bush girt get bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And the worst thing was, she goes, I told you

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<v Speaker 1>you never listen. You know everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I know you're lying because you pay the invoices

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<v Speaker 3>for the gardeners to pick up your mate.

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<v Speaker 1>If I pass away, I'll leave you something. I will

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<v Speaker 1>my wife.

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<v Speaker 2>Leave your Titans membership.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah yeah, mate, I'll tell you what mate. You laugh

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<v Speaker 1>now I tell you what. Hey good on the dragons, mate.

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<v Speaker 1>It was funny yesterday. Some people have very good intuition.

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<v Speaker 1>I never saw it, but a lot I spoke to

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people who said, I've got a feeling

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<v Speaker 1>about the Dragons and the Broncos. I just thought I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot see it two pm Sunday afternoon sun Court. People

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<v Speaker 1>like Walsh and that everything to play for. But mate,

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<v Speaker 1>weld under them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you do have to tip cap like it has

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<v Speaker 3>been a tough year for the Dragons.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it the Dragons rising to the occasion?

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<v Speaker 3>Was it the fact the Broncos that were just really bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was more Broncos than the Dragons being good.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'll tell you what, they've been through a lean patch.

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<v Speaker 2>And they needed to get one.

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<v Speaker 3>They needed one because it was only going to get

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<v Speaker 3>worse if they didn't drag a victory.

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<v Speaker 1>The good thing about it, they've got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>very good, very good young players. They're going through a

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<v Speaker 1>difficult point. This this point in their career which is

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<v Speaker 1>early on, which is not necessarily bad things sometimes coops,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to get in there as a young player,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's not like you jump into a

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<v Speaker 1>great side and you just yeah, you're swimming upstream with it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're in there and you're working doubly hard. Like next year,

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<v Speaker 1>like the Cashman brothers and some of those young fellas

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<v Speaker 1>you you've got the cavalry coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Because talent coming.

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<v Speaker 1>It's coming.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you're trying to blood these young guys. The

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<v Speaker 3>thing that I still want to see the next sort

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<v Speaker 3>of four to six week where the Dragons are at.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to be a rep player to be

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<v Speaker 3>a good defensive player. What I mean by that is

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<v Speaker 3>the schoolboard has ticked over way too much for me

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<v Speaker 3>at the Dragons. And if you're bringing in experience bringing

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<v Speaker 3>young guys, I don't particularly care if they can't score points,

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<v Speaker 3>but stop the opposition from scoring, scratch claw and fight

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<v Speaker 3>for everything. The scoreboard against the Roosters tickto the school

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<v Speaker 3>board after that, just too many big scool lines. But

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<v Speaker 3>the fact they went the sun Corp on a hot day,

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<v Speaker 3>which should have said the Broncos octane attack should have

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<v Speaker 3>been up and about. They started better and defended well

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<v Speaker 3>for periods of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Something spooky. Last three meetings sun Corp Stadium Dragons have

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<v Speaker 1>won thirty to twenty six, all three three games in

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<v Speaker 1>a row twenty six and.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been bitten by a spider.

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<v Speaker 1>Something's happening, mate, really enjoyed Penrith against the Wars. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>I oven?

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<v Speaker 1>And Andrew Webster. Going into the game, I was thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>what what would each coach be satisfied with? What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think? I mean, it's a it's a psychological blow

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<v Speaker 1>for Penrith. They've struck a blow. They're no clearing, no

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<v Speaker 1>yo no, and they still got it done.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think we're ever going to see anything out

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<v Speaker 3>of Penrith. That game didn't really matter to them. I

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<v Speaker 3>thought it was a statement game for the Warriors. And

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<v Speaker 3>yes they lost, yep. But I'll tell you what, they

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<v Speaker 3>were very good, don't they anyone?

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<v Speaker 2>But Penrith. They win by twenty points?

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<v Speaker 1>I agree totally.

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<v Speaker 2>So I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 3>The only thing to come out of it is that

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<v Speaker 3>that is a psychological blow when they play. I think

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<v Speaker 3>they playing Round twenty three later in the year. But

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<v Speaker 3>these teams will meet in a big game, yep. And

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<v Speaker 3>the fact is that no yo no or no clearing,

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to roll into that team that penalthein better.

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<v Speaker 3>Can the Warriors go another level? I thought it was great,

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<v Speaker 3>like a couple of moments in that first half. If

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<v Speaker 3>the Warriors had have got the try, that's completely different

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<v Speaker 3>context of the game. But Penrith were tremendous. The Warriors

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<v Speaker 3>were great. It was one of the better advertisements for

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<v Speaker 3>our game this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen Andrew Webster put his head in the pillow

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<v Speaker 1>last night, going, Okay, you know, they didn't have those

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<v Speaker 1>guys in, but we're getting closer. We're getting up on these,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And they were a team that is continuing.

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<v Speaker 3>They defend for long periods of time, great completion rate

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<v Speaker 3>from both teams, and in that second half they threw

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<v Speaker 3>a lot at each other. That ball was in play

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<v Speaker 3>for long periods of time. To Picky come up with

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<v Speaker 3>a moment Edwards delivered like a good captain's knocked in

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<v Speaker 3>without all of his other star players around. Casey MacLean

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<v Speaker 3>just goes to another level. I think Penrith are just

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<v Speaker 3>so good, like you just can't every time you tip

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<v Speaker 3>against them, you get caught out. Like I thought the

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<v Speaker 3>Warriors would win. I truly thought that was a more

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<v Speaker 3>important game for the Warriors than it was for Penrith,

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<v Speaker 3>and they played to that level. But Penrith are just

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<v Speaker 3>so damn good.

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<v Speaker 1>Strength of the system, like Jack Coga goes in there,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a great role player.

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<v Speaker 3>And Webster's got the strength of the system too, Tomato Martin,

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<v Speaker 3>and they played like calling the game. It was almost

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<v Speaker 3>like mirror image. Yeah, they were physical in contact, they

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<v Speaker 3>didn't drop the ball, the passes were spot on and

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<v Speaker 3>for the majority of the game, the only time the

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<v Speaker 3>teams looked like they were going to score was through

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<v Speaker 3>the last playoption. It was because they were just defending

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<v Speaker 3>everything for each other.

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<v Speaker 1>She says, some big games coming up this weekend. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to talk about the Fursday night game South

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<v Speaker 1>Sidney Rabbit O's Manly. South's looking for consistency now at

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<v Speaker 1>this time of the year. Manly have had a little dip.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got to get you know, they've got to get

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<v Speaker 1>back to the form we saw about a month ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But South Sydney they get back Brandon Brandon Smith, Campbell

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<v Speaker 1>Graham day for Feeder. I think it'd be a terrific

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<v Speaker 1>game of football.

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<v Speaker 2>CAMC. Graham is an important person for them. Out on

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<v Speaker 2>those edges.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to see what Manly are with and forum

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<v Speaker 3>because last time they lost under for it was against Penrith.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was a good performance.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't something that you had to sort of go oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really know. They missed the Mark Man they

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<v Speaker 3>missed the mark physically to start that game, and Kieren

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<v Speaker 3>Forn is going to have to have a sterner review

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<v Speaker 3>than ever before, and it's going to see the reaction.

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<v Speaker 3>Does Loop Brooks rack well to that, It does Jamal Fog,

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<v Speaker 3>and he does all the other players, Jake Travoiovich as such.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the last couple weeks of starting to sort

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<v Speaker 1>of understand players a lot more.

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<v Speaker 2>And he'd be interested too.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he just can't keep going, Oh, this is great, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>let's keep course do that again. We're going well, so

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<v Speaker 3>he almost needs a tested as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, state of origin selections still a week away, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Away we're going to pick our sides.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, why not talk about changes? It's an interesting one

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<v Speaker 1>going from first game into the second. We'll touch on

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<v Speaker 1>this at the moment. Queensland Patti Krrighan used to, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>That's about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Own changed really Like if you look at the game,

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<v Speaker 3>it's really hard to analyze it because it's such a

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<v Speaker 3>weird game. The first twenty minutes New South Wales made

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<v Speaker 3>four or five errors, Queensland dominated possession in attacking end

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<v Speaker 3>of the field, and while it was thirty on thirteen

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<v Speaker 3>Queensland looked really good, really good. So you cannot change

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<v Speaker 3>that team at much at all. With Carrigan going down,

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's an opportunity to get Codder in his

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<v Speaker 3>preferred position as in that middle thirteen player ball playing

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<v Speaker 3>tackles like his life depends on it. Maybe Nicker or

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<v Speaker 3>maybe he Lin Luki comes in onto that edge. But

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm Billy, I'm not changing too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Reece. He picked Ezra ahead of him. Like yesterday you

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<v Speaker 1>were preparing for commentary Broncos. Ree had moments like flashes

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<v Speaker 1>of Brilliants very bad Reese's you know, we've spoken of it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you played all the football with Billy. Billy would take

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<v Speaker 1>calculated risks, and Reese does the same very soon. Last

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<v Speaker 1>year there's calculated risk. Nine out of ten came off

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment. He's not quite in the groove. Look

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<v Speaker 1>at a lot of his touches as we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>him here. But you think about coming into the nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>I would.

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<v Speaker 3>Have had whilsh in there before Ezra. I just threw

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<v Speaker 3>the form right. But then you look at some of

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<v Speaker 3>the reasons why, and if one of the Harves went down,

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<v Speaker 3>you didn't really have a ready made half on the bench.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's why Ezra was there. But I still

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<v Speaker 3>think that person on the bench it is to cover,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a conservative decision. If it's Reese Walsh, that's

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<v Speaker 3>a scary proposition. It's scary to have him on the field,

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<v Speaker 3>particularly what New South Wales did to run down that.

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<v Speaker 2>Scoreboard in the last twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>They bought on McLean. They had lots of ball players

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<v Speaker 3>out in the field. So yeah, look, I think I

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<v Speaker 3>can understand it from an insurance point of view, just

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<v Speaker 3>having Ezra there in case like player for player, Walsh's

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<v Speaker 3>there in front of Ezra.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, watching the Broncos yesterday, we're seeing something at the moment. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>first and foremost their heads went on, right, they gave

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<v Speaker 1>they gave the Dragons very little respect in God what

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<v Speaker 1>they deserved. Right. But the other thing, if you talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, technique and sequence based football. We've said a

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<v Speaker 1>lot last year. You see the very best of the

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<v Speaker 1>Broncos when they open up the full field, playing a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of sideline, the song, this sort of stuff gives

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<v Speaker 1>them opportunity. At the moment they're back to just playing

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<v Speaker 1>half field sequences.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to question billiony selections, but he knows that fullbacks

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<v Speaker 3>play better than anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the.

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<v Speaker 3>Moment, Reese's gap between his best and his worst, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a bigger gap. But there's some other players in the

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<v Speaker 3>queens and inside that have a big gap between their

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<v Speaker 3>consistency as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But when he's good.

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<v Speaker 3>Far out and when he's bad, Yeah, like some other

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<v Speaker 3>players are a bit bad as well. But yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of Queensland selections, I don't think there's too

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<v Speaker 3>much a change. Carrigan might have to and then maybe

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<v Speaker 3>some spots on the bench. But I'll tell you what

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<v Speaker 3>South Wales, I've got some thinking to do because yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>for the time it was thirteen on thirteen they were

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<v Speaker 3>off the mark and then Kalin goes off and all

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden things start clicking. So as a selector,

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<v Speaker 3>as a new South Wales person, how do you decide

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<v Speaker 3>what is the right decision to stay loyal or change

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<v Speaker 3>because the majority of the game they were beaten.

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<v Speaker 1>The bottom line is, if you I ask you the question,

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<v Speaker 1>do Queensland win the game if Ponger stays undoubted? So

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<v Speaker 1>how can we afford not to make change? Like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's just certain areas that we've got to be better.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we need more creativity out of nine for

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<v Speaker 1>help with the we didn't We couldn't get yardage traction

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<v Speaker 1>until Kem Murray come on hum and Victor made a

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<v Speaker 1>big difference. Victor with a lift in emotion. Kem Murray

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<v Speaker 1>is just his fast feet through the middle. For that reason,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Brayley from my mail was probably going to

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<v Speaker 1>come into the starting lineup. I go chorus our, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Robson isn't a great competitor, you know, fantastic defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Robson is not in at all.

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<v Speaker 1>You're starting, I start happy, Okay, yeah, I just think, mate,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to blow. He has got experience, he's played

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of the key players before, and he's creative.

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<v Speaker 1>He's tough and he's creative. The other one, look Catoni.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Cartoni had Kaylen caused Katoni a lot of problems,

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<v Speaker 1>as Kaylan does like any center. But I moved Kricheton

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<v Speaker 1>over to that side. On the right side, I put

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<v Speaker 1>Casey McLean left center. I would have had Latrell. Latrell's

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<v Speaker 1>out with a back injury. Casey McClain, you can't deny

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<v Speaker 1>when you watch what McLean did in that last it's

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<v Speaker 1>only twenty three minutes, but the way he went after

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<v Speaker 1>the game, the way he played yesterday, his form's just undeniable.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyone wants to go have look at why Casey McLean

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<v Speaker 3>should be in the side. Have look his defensive decisions yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>As a center, when stags under pressure from Kaylen, you've

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<v Speaker 3>got to stay square on like a lead runner, which

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<v Speaker 3>is run inside shoulder, and then you've got the speed

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<v Speaker 3>of someone out the back. Casey McLean did it bringiant. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>he had too a picky on the outside and he

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<v Speaker 3>just slid off on the right decision, got stuck into

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<v Speaker 3>the Warriors at different stages. He's one hell of a player.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got moments in him. So Nactually, I can't really

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<v Speaker 3>argue with that. I think one of the other things

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<v Speaker 3>about the middle forwards, like in terms of Adam Fanil

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<v Speaker 3>Blake and Rhys Robson, I don't think New South Wales

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<v Speaker 3>is going to miss the start in game two. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think Brian Tott was going to have three errors

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<v Speaker 3>again in his life coming out own end. So those

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<v Speaker 3>guys that tried to stump up and repel for a

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<v Speaker 3>period of time. I don't think they're going to be

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<v Speaker 3>under as much pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I mean has goes for he's in. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you can you.

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<v Speaker 2>Have Painhouse and Adam fanil Blake in the same site.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think you can. When you have a

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<v Speaker 1>look at Hasses starting together his movement, look what I

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<v Speaker 1>would do, I'd start him together Adam Fanila Blake. His

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<v Speaker 1>second stint was a lot better than his first, he said.

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<v Speaker 1>Second stint was pretty strong. His first stint he was

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<v Speaker 1>just he couldn't quite get into the game. And a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of that was the fact that we weren't getting

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<v Speaker 1>forward early tackles. You said, Brian. If you look at

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<v Speaker 1>when Bryan retires, you'll say, mate, he was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the greats of origin football. You just look at his

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<v Speaker 1>statistics and what he's done continually. But that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he came up with all those errors. Critic Cri come

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<v Speaker 1>up with errors which made it hard on the middle man.

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<v Speaker 1>But I start, I start with he has and I

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<v Speaker 1>have Kem Murray at thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're putting the captain back to the bench.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it gives the captain an opportunity. Just what's what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on.

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<v Speaker 2>To put your captain to the bench.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you've got to do what I think is best

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<v Speaker 1>best for the side. I love Isaiah, you know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's the smartest bloke in the game. Even

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<v Speaker 1>you put him to the bench. Yes, I am, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's what I want at the start of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>Cam Murray, we need to start strong, We need to

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<v Speaker 1>start well. I think we need to do less passing

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<v Speaker 1>and more just direct running. Kem Murray is mate. You

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<v Speaker 1>have Kem Murray, Payine Haas and Adam Feranila Blake. If

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<v Speaker 1>those three blokes play to their potential, forget about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're off your head with Isaiaho but I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>But I actually don't mind the paint House and Adam

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<v Speaker 3>Faniel Blake. You are you start those two you're banking on,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're basically telling every team, every player, you do

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<v Speaker 3>not miss the start because if they have forty percent

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<v Speaker 3>possession that they did in game one, paint House and

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<v Speaker 3>Adam Faniel Blake going to be ineffective defensive.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'll tell you what, if they have.

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<v Speaker 3>Sixty percent possession, look at it, Oh look out like

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<v Speaker 3>they will take off and dominate that first two minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Every player wants to play state of Origin right, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, even if you're out of form, Karen injury,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to play well. I thought either it was

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<v Speaker 1>tough on Mitch Barnett. If you look at Mitch coming

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<v Speaker 1>off an ACL injury and only played three games this year,

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<v Speaker 1>really stopped starting like it was a tough ass for him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought he. I thought his second stint was good.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I thought that first stint when Queensland had

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<v Speaker 1>line share possession, we're playing really fast with me. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought he struggled there. Just I think he needs more

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<v Speaker 1>football under his belt.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually don't mind that.

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<v Speaker 3>Adam fanil Blake Painhuse, I'd have you there and then

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<v Speaker 3>your bench rotations, Cam and Victor Radley that that that's

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<v Speaker 3>punchy like that they turned a little bit of that

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<v Speaker 3>contest in that first game.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't mind that mix up.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's you know, like you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson Ford or Terrell May. But I do think Dylan Lucas,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look at Dylan Lucas did on the weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're going to come back to the fact you

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<v Speaker 1>can play edge back, row Auka play center, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I think I oulder had him in in the first game.

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<v Speaker 1>Ob'll see what we do. Hit the big one. Mitch,

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<v Speaker 1>Moses and Ethan Strange. We spoke about this on three sixty.

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<v Speaker 1>You would think Ethan goes back to fourteen. Tough, very

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<v Speaker 1>tough to do. You know, it's Mitch's sort of at

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<v Speaker 1>that point that the Moses Cleary combination very very strong.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it's got Yeah, I think it's Moses.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you got the luxury of over Ethan on

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<v Speaker 2>the bench.

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<v Speaker 3>He could cover a nine if needed to. But Mitch

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<v Speaker 3>Moses was your six before game one?

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<v Speaker 2>Is your six games.

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<v Speaker 1>Now? Mid Susan, Phil, We've hit that middle part of

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<v Speaker 1>the year, only the middle part, and in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>part mate, around fourteen fourteen. It's yes, just thinking that,

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<v Speaker 1>let's have it like rating out of ten with some

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<v Speaker 1>of these things and some predictions out of ten performances

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<v Speaker 1>this year. Dylan Brown come into this season, people are going, Mate,

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<v Speaker 1>how's he going to handle this? I think Justin Holbrook

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<v Speaker 1>has been brilliant the way he's designed the game plan

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<v Speaker 1>and the shapes around him. I'll give him an eight

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe eight and a half head of ten.

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<v Speaker 3>And hand up you and I both had big question

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<v Speaker 3>marks over Dylan Brown being able to not not that

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<v Speaker 3>he's a great runner of the ball or that it

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't be that impact. But when you move from six

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<v Speaker 3>to seven sometimes you have the this inability to juggle

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<v Speaker 3>both the decision making and the ball play and when

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<v Speaker 3>to kick and when to run. But the system that

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<v Speaker 3>Holbrooks put around, particularly Brown and Ponger.

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<v Speaker 2>Tick t would you say eight, yep, yeah, yeah, bang

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<v Speaker 2>on the next two.

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<v Speaker 1>These two so hard to get a read on. Firstly,

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<v Speaker 1>Toddy Payton, he's catching like at the moment. I think

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday probably proves why he hasn't been given the contract

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<v Speaker 1>extension yet because their form, the Cowboys' form, is never

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<v Speaker 1>quite reliable.

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<v Speaker 3>So hard to trust, Like if you're a decision maker

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<v Speaker 3>at the Cowboys or even a fan trying to pick

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<v Speaker 3>where the Cowboys are at. They're bad is bad, They're

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<v Speaker 3>good is great, and they just keep going in between that.

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<v Speaker 3>They started the year off and it was almost Tim

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<v Speaker 3>or Seabolt who was going to go first. Then they

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<v Speaker 3>caught fire for a period of time, high score lines,

0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:47.879
<v Speaker 3>great entertainment, but their defense was still conceding points. And

0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:50.440
<v Speaker 3>I think that is the barometer of any good team,

0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:55.960
<v Speaker 3>Like you look at yesterday's game Oras versus the Panthers. Defensively,

0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.800
<v Speaker 3>they were both great. When you want to win games

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<v Speaker 3>of football, I think you've got to whether your coach

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<v Speaker 3>is getting the best out of your team defensively. And

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<v Speaker 3>the Cowboys are great attacking, but they're not getting the

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<v Speaker 3>numbers out of defense. And when Drink waters down their.

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<v Speaker 1>Attacks off give them six and a half, I give.

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<v Speaker 2>Them five and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>I think their borderline the next the next month is

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<v Speaker 3>going to determine whether Todd's there.

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<v Speaker 1>Another one. Yeah, that's really difficult to get a handle.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you, well, similar to the Cowboys, Well, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you whatever. The moment, it looks as though cleaners through, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Lett and ram In, there's a few other like a.

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<v Speaker 3>Few other players that have sort of off contract. Are

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<v Speaker 3>they going to be there? It's almost like fits is

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<v Speaker 3>trying to find out whether they can prove to themselves

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<v Speaker 3>in the next sort of month or two that they

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<v Speaker 3>are to stay. So I think it's really up to players.

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<v Speaker 3>I think if they get the hardest parts of the

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<v Speaker 3>game done well, they're they're a borderline top four team.

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<v Speaker 2>Couple of prelium finals in a row. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>six are good mark.

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<v Speaker 1>For what about d C was one of the big

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<v Speaker 1>storylines going to this season. We said at the start

0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:11.720
<v Speaker 1>of the year he was good enough to sort of

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<v Speaker 1>take a step back and allow semi walker prominence. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's been it's been a difficult season.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably five. Probably sits just below five. I think he

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<v Speaker 3>gets covered up a little bit with the way the

0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:26.920
<v Speaker 3>Roosters won those I think it was six games in

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<v Speaker 3>a row or something. Tedesco on fire dominated the middle

0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:34.800
<v Speaker 3>third of the field. Rhys Robson was good and even

0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:37.119
<v Speaker 3>on the weekend, I thought when you looked at the

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<v Speaker 3>Storm versus Roosters, origin players galor on both teams, and

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<v Speaker 3>when you're coming back in after two or three days off,

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<v Speaker 3>your next crop of players are the ones that should

0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:51.399
<v Speaker 3>be driving the performance so far Longer did it for

0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:54.960
<v Speaker 3>the Melbourne film, Dylan Edwards did it for Penrith, and

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<v Speaker 3>I expected DC to be the best player for the

0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:02.119
<v Speaker 3>Roosters and he Yeah, it was an ineffective game, So

0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:04.879
<v Speaker 3>sits just below that.

0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:07.040
<v Speaker 1>They've got They've got to work out certain things with

0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:09.760
<v Speaker 1>their attacking sequences. Coop. I've seen in the last few

0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:12.360
<v Speaker 1>years where they they're a better team than the way

0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:15.080
<v Speaker 1>they're attacking. And I think, like you look at Sammy Walker,

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<v Speaker 1>know the system that he found himself in at Origin,

0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:20.760
<v Speaker 1>I know, and he's backing up. I expected him to

0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:24.359
<v Speaker 1>come back after backing, after backing up from having a blinder,

0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:27.080
<v Speaker 1>to really just take take control of this game.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was his first time doing it, and there

0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:34.399
<v Speaker 3>is some energy physicality. The thing that worried me about,

0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:38.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, SAMs performance against the Storm was he started

0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:41.920
<v Speaker 3>going sideways again, started sort of getting away from that

0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:45.240
<v Speaker 3>direct play that that helped. And I think the Roosters

0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:49.399
<v Speaker 3>when they centralized their attack around midfield, they're the best

0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:53.080
<v Speaker 3>attacking team around midfield. So when they generate that quick

0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:56.200
<v Speaker 3>play the ball through their power forwards, they've taken advantage

0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:59.600
<v Speaker 3>of it both playing forward through the gaps I think

0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:01.840
<v Speaker 3>on the week and they start passing away from it.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the wet too. The wet has been their

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<v Speaker 1>kryptonite beaten sides, the top sides of Penrith and Storm

0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:09.520
<v Speaker 1>being the crypto playing in the wet, it's almost like

0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:11.280
<v Speaker 1>they're determined.

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<v Speaker 2>To prove that they can handle the execution under the jurass.

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<v Speaker 2>But they just haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>The other big storyline this year has been in the

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<v Speaker 1>Bulldogs and Lachland Galvin. Galvin. It's funny because it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>been bad timing given the fact he's just started, like

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<v Speaker 1>to really be playing some good football until in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>is the best player for the Dogs this year. Daylight

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<v Speaker 1>second and then Lachlan. But at the moment he starts

0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:37.080
<v Speaker 1>to find himself in the side, the side's confidence just

0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:40.480
<v Speaker 1>deteriorates pretty rapidly. I actually I'll give him a seventh

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<v Speaker 1>for this season.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think the attention around Lachlan is call it unfair,

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<v Speaker 3>like the kid is working through developing into.

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<v Speaker 2>A good halfback.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can't speak on behalf of you, but like

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<v Speaker 3>coming through the first two years as a half back,

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<v Speaker 3>you have some good days, you have some really bad days,

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<v Speaker 3>some shot days.

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<v Speaker 2>And you are up and down like a yo.

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<v Speaker 3>It's and Cooper, But there is enough to him, like

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<v Speaker 3>you can see it the way he plays when he

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<v Speaker 3>combines with Preston, some of his decision making against Penrith,

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<v Speaker 3>up against Nathan a few weeks back.

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<v Speaker 2>There's enough there that says you've got to stick with

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<v Speaker 2>this guy and invest.

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<v Speaker 1>Some time Dogs for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I had the Dogs top four.

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<v Speaker 3>I had the Dogs being one of the premiership threats

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<v Speaker 3>this year, and when the rule came into play, I

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<v Speaker 3>thought that favored them defensively. I thought it did like

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<v Speaker 3>a smaller bodies, good movement. I thought they were one

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<v Speaker 3>of the teams that should have gone on but defensively

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<v Speaker 3>just leaking way too many.

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<v Speaker 1>Points like Coop and we'll talk about the Rooster, determined

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<v Speaker 1>to prove something with their attack. It's the same with

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<v Speaker 1>the Dogs. The Dogs to me this year have gone

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<v Speaker 1>out with a boo and their bonnets, so now we'll

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<v Speaker 1>show you how we can attack. And they've taken taken

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<v Speaker 1>the focus off their defense, which was their strength and

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<v Speaker 1>the necessity to winning winning a title.

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<v Speaker 3>To that point, it's almost like there's so I worked

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<v Speaker 3>up about proving people wrong, that they're individually just going

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<v Speaker 3>about it themselves as opposed to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, unanimous sort of approach.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Ethan Sanders, of course, all the focus on Ethan strange.

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<v Speaker 1>But Ethan Sanders come in. He took over from Jamal

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<v Speaker 1>Foggery and assumed the seven job. I think he's done

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<v Speaker 1>exactly as you said. There some great days, some tough days,

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<v Speaker 1>average days, I'll give him a six and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if you put him in Lachlan Galvin together, but

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<v Speaker 3>they're doing this, but Lachlan is the half back of

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<v Speaker 3>the Dogs and Sander's a half back of the Raiders.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I think he's solid, yep, something growing definitely

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<v Speaker 3>And in terms of him verse Jamal Fogey, there is

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<v Speaker 3>more upside to Sanders than what there was with Jamal

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<v Speaker 3>at the Raiders.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's going to be a good player in a

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<v Speaker 2>couple year of times.

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Holbrook, an old old night Knight's old boy has

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<v Speaker 1>gone up there and I give him an eight and

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<v Speaker 1>a half head of time. Tempted to give him a

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<v Speaker 1>night Yeah, because I tear what the city and Newcastle

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<v Speaker 1>peep people in it. It's such a regular heart line.

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<v Speaker 1>The people out there know their football. I remember back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day people used to say there was a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a thing where they said, oh, even when

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<v Speaker 1>you go to Newcastle there might be thirty thousand people,

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<v Speaker 1>but most of the time it's really quiet. And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason is because they know their football and they're watching,

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<v Speaker 1>they're watching and observing, and full house there three pm

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<v Speaker 1>on the Saturday afternoon, which oftentimes hard to get a

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<v Speaker 1>full house. They got it there. They see something building.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely a nine. What Holbrook has done. He had some

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<v Speaker 3>challenges rolling in Newcastle, a team that struggled to score

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<v Speaker 3>points and defend, a new six that's meant to play halfback,

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<v Speaker 3>and a sort of a town that maybe have been

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<v Speaker 3>sort of let down in terms of performances. Every time

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<v Speaker 3>I see the Newcastle Nights play, I think at the

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<v Speaker 3>time that he took them down to Colone. It keeps

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<v Speaker 3>coming back to connecting to what is Newcastle and they're

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<v Speaker 3>doing that defensively. But then they've got some strike for

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<v Speaker 3>Quel and best Dom, young Dylan Brown, your Man Lucas.

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<v Speaker 1>Playing great.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they'll get caught out when they start playing

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<v Speaker 3>like the Warriors and Panthers and towards the back end

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<v Speaker 3>of the year. But right now they they're sitting in

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<v Speaker 3>the finals and they'll play finals.

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<v Speaker 1>And lastly, the Dolphins again side who are just capable

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<v Speaker 1>of so much starting to build coop. They're starting, They're

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<v Speaker 1>starting to get there. At the moment, I'm giving them

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<v Speaker 1>seven and a half, probably seven, because I know that

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<v Speaker 1>slow start to the year and they're capable more still.

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<v Speaker 1>But these young fellows that are coming through, mixing with

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<v Speaker 1>the older, more experienced plays out. There's some really good

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<v Speaker 1>signs there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they play finals. I think as long as

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<v Speaker 3>defensively they're strong, I think they're attacking score points against anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Coop, we've run out of time. We had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of salacious predictions I was going to put to them,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll hold that for next week. Just a little

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<v Speaker 1>hook and teas for the people out there in the meantime. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's no good mate, An that's thinking about it, mate,

0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:08.240
<v Speaker 1>you know making that. You know they might see a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit under Luke Carey, don't. They're not here being

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<v Speaker 1>about thirty years and abiz

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<v Speaker 2>What are you talking about