1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to a new episode of Breaking 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: Even with Al Payton on your official Supercoach AFL podcast feed. 3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: This is the show where we answer your questions, and 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: there are plenty of them. This week one of probably 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: the biggest trading weeks in Super Coach for the season, 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: with lots of players about to change in value, lots 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: of bubble boys to talk about, and joining me is Patch. 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: Welcome back. 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 3: Hello, delighted to be here, very happy to be back 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 3: on Breaking Even with El Peyton with our good friend 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 3: Al Payton. 12 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, and Tim Mitchell is also with 13 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: us for the first time in a little while. But 14 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: a huge week tim on the trading front, and also 15 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: some juicy DPP numbers which had your name Nixon, which 16 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: I know is something you're all over. 17 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, lot's happening, al So we'll see in a couple 18 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 4: of weeks time some DPP changes which I'm really looking 19 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 4: forward to, but hoping you guys can help me out 20 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 4: because I'm trying to fit about twelve players into three 21 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:54,959 Speaker 4: trades this week. 22 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: I'd love if there was a super boost or. 23 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 4: Something else where we could burn all our boost at once, 24 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 4: because I think i'd probably do it this week, trying 25 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 4: to get everyone in. 26 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's plenty to discuss, and yeah, prioritize is a 27 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: big thing, which reading through some of the questions, and 28 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: there's been heaps come in already is something that people 29 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: are asking about. 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Just 41 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: the best money you'll spend in Super Coach this year. 42 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 4: I just taught my kid what a break even was 43 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 4: and now we've lost break even access, so we'll have 44 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 4: I think we'll have to sign up. 45 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a thirty dollars investment to earn fifty thousand dollars, 46 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: so you know you'd be doing pretty well out of it. 47 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely reckon and people check that out obviously, 48 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: and you got optimized and trade usas and all those 49 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: features as well. 50 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: But we'll get into the question shortly. 51 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: But the first order of business, as it is every 52 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: week on the show, is the HbF Injury Report. Every 53 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: super coach you know is managing injuries is the key 54 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: to success. This is the Injury Report, proudly brought to 55 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: you by HbF your Health Dream Team. Not a huge 56 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: list of injuries this week, but some very interesting names 57 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: on there. Or kick us off with a couple down 58 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: at the Cats famously forthcoming in their information about how 59 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: those players tracking with injuries and fitness. So Tom Stewart 60 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: went down with a knee injury on the weekend, just 61 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: the nine points. If you had him, it was a 62 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: bit of a disaster and we thought he was going 63 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: to miss a while, but now it turns out maybe 64 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: you could play this week. 65 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: He's down as a test so if you. 66 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: Were trading him out, you'd probably reverse that and yeah, 67 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: wait and see how he comes up for the weekend. 68 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: But the other one, of course, we're watching very close 69 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: to is Bailey Smith. He was a late out last week, 70 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: caught a lot of people out, a lot of lots 71 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: of reverse trades happening, and now he's down as a 72 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: test as well. I think the cat's placed that day night, 73 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: so we're probably gonna have to wait until, you know, 74 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: an hour before the game to really know what they're 75 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: doing doing it. 76 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, he could be, so who knows. Who knows what 77 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 3: they're doing. 78 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 4: I don't know why you'd risk Like it's obvious to 79 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 4: say as a non owner, but I don't know why 80 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 4: you'd risk him. What are they talking sixty meals of 81 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 4: rain up in Bridge Hoole and like why you would 82 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 4: take him up there as well? 83 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: Potentially if there was any risk, But who knows? He 84 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: played so he played so. 85 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 4: Well in round one that they became to get him 86 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 4: back in there as as soon as they can. 87 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd think so, but I guess it's a wait 88 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 3: and see. 89 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: And the other one, the very relevant to super Coach 90 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: that came through earlier in the week is Elijah Sadus 91 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: has a broken finger broken in the warm up, I believe, 92 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: and still played and had twenty five touches. But now 93 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: he's going to miss a couple of weeks, including essence 94 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: by so we'll get to that a bit later on 95 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: people asking do you hang on to him? 96 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: Do we trade him? 97 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: So, yeah, that's another one that we have to think 98 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: about on top of all the other issues this week. 99 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely another couple. Adam Trelaw is not in many teams, 100 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 3: but if you've got a Raley Sanders or a you know, 101 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: one of the other Frogs mids Joe Frasier, perhaps he's 102 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: been set back by another month with his calf injury, 103 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: which is no good. And if you've got kind of 104 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 3: McDonald in draft sides, which eighty five percent of leagues 105 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: having picked in, he's going to be out for two 106 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 3: to three weeks as well. 107 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 4: Good news up at the Gold Coast Sun, Sam Flanders 108 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 4: is almost have forgotten me, but Selanders is back the. 109 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: Most expensive defense were very close to. 110 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, after how good he was for us last year, 111 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 4: so he's going to be back, and jeez, he might 112 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 4: be a nice pod. We're talking about upgrade season not 113 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 4: too far away with Sam Plander's playing his first game 114 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 4: of the year, so we came to see how he 115 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 4: goes after Well, he played back, but now they've got 116 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 4: Daniel Rioli and John Obles yeah to be as well 117 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 4: and GWS they're going to welcome back up to seven 118 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 4: players this week. Kieran Briggs is one that I'm watching 119 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 4: pretty closely after he scored five before he got then cast, 120 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 4: Jesse Hogan's back, Jake Stringers meant to be debuting, and 121 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 4: then Joe Fonte, Toby McMullan, jay Riccardin, Harvey Thomas Less, 122 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 4: super Coat Trailerman. 123 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: But they might push out at James League. 124 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 4: Type which on a stone, yeah, which is where the 125 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 4: relevance comes in. So plenty of eyes on what Adam 126 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 4: Kingsley does at selection this week. 127 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd be pretty nervous if I was James Leak 128 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,239 Speaker 1: this week. That's a wrap on this week's injury report 129 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: thanks to HbF make the Smart Move join HbF your. 130 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: Health three in team. 131 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: Now. We've got a couple of other little segments that 132 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: we debuted last week and we'll I think they went 133 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: all right, So we'll have another crack this week and 134 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: the first one isn't Fallen Primo watch. 135 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: So we're looking for some. 136 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: Of these higher priced guys who are potentially going to 137 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: be a bit cheaper in a few weeks time. And 138 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: at the top of the list we've got Luke Ryan, 139 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: who's had a pretty quiet start to the year. By 140 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: we know last year he absolutely flew out of the blocks, 141 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: was averaging about one hundred and fifty at this stage. 142 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, he hasn't done a lot, so right up 143 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: at the six hundred and twenty eight k mark, he's 144 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: got a break even of one hundred and ninety two 145 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: this week, which is the highest in the comp projected 146 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: to lose about fifty grand. So Tim, is he one 147 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: you would be keeping an eye on in a few 148 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: weeks when we start looking for those upgrades. And I mean, 149 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: if you started him, what. 150 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 2: Are we doing? 151 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,679 Speaker 4: I'd be tempted to jump off. That's a massive break 152 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 4: have you been? But it really depends what you can 153 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 4: do with his value. Like if you could turn that 154 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 4: six twenty eight k into Bailey Dale, make one hundred 155 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 4: k and then use that to upgrade side elsewhere, great, 156 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 4: But I was trying to pinpoint some of the areas 157 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 4: where he's dropped off ours. He's had eleven kickings in 158 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 4: the first two rounds, which is slightly down on the 159 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,119 Speaker 4: average from last year. I think he was averaging about 160 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 4: eight a week, so, but that doesn't necessarily explain scores 161 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 4: of sixty and ninety that he's had so far. Disposals 162 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 4: down by four and marks are down by three. But 163 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 4: I just wonder patch whether it's the Jordan Clark's just 164 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 4: taken over as the main man. 165 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 3: Now. 166 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 2: Jordan Clarks looked so good in the first couple. 167 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 4: Of weeks, and there's only so much ball that the 168 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 4: Freemantle defense can win. So maybe it's just that Clark 169 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 4: has stepped up and taken his game to the next level. 170 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 171 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: Possibly, And there's also the fact that, you know, maybe 172 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 3: he's playing more of a defensive role. He has to 173 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 3: be accountable, Like on the weekend he was I can't 174 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 3: remember who's following around, but he. 175 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 2: Was actually played on someone. 176 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 3: He played on someone for at least half of that game, 177 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: which I was watching out of the corner of mail. 178 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 4: Was a marking grass like normally, so four tons in 179 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 4: his last thirteen games down Lucrones. We know he flew 180 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 4: out of the blocks last year, averaged one hundred and 181 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 4: twenty nine to round twelve, and the bye came and 182 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 4: then he averaged one hundred and two, which is still great. 183 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 4: One hundred and two from round fourteen onwards, but sort 184 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 4: of well below those lofty standards that he set. So yeah, 185 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 4: only four tons in thirteen games is a bit of 186 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 4: a worry. 187 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, definitely a watch now. Nick Dacos is the 188 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: other one that we are obviously keeping a very close 189 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: eye on. A lot of us decided not to pick 190 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: him at the start of the year after or opening 191 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: round and maybe some injury questions. Then he had his 192 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: first sort of bounce back game last week, so he 193 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: has dropped a little bit of value. He's down to 194 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: just over six hundred K, but he's got to break 195 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: even of one hundred and fifteen in his next game. 196 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: So obviously, Colin, we don't play this week on the 197 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: run Shed. 198 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 3: That's got to break that pleasant decent price drop. 199 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: I'll pick him up for one nineteen K, So yeah, 200 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: I mean it's one thing to say we you know, 201 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: we'll just passing him and get him cheaper, but then 202 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: actually making it happen is another thing. So we've actually 203 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: we've got a question here from Anthony saying Jaco says 204 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: that bye this week, then he's got Carlton Sydney. The 205 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: following rounds do we wait until after we think he'd 206 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: probably get tagged by James Jordan in that Sydney game. 207 00:07:58,440 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: Is that the time we target it? 208 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: Or he worried that he loves playing Carlton Nick Dacos, 209 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: So with that you nervous. 210 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: Who doesn't at this stage the way the Blues are going. 211 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 3: I think we'll talk about structure a bit more later 212 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: as well. But I think at this stage I'm not 213 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: looking to upgrade the midfield just yet, so he will 214 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 3: be if that's midseason buyers laider down the track. I'm 215 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 3: not looking to target a nickname class at this stage. 216 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that, Yeah, that's right. 217 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: We'll probably come into play with you know, we'll get 218 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: through the next couple of rounds on you know, this 219 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: is all about resetting things, and then we'll look at, 220 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: you know, where we want to upgrade. And I think, Abdill, 221 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: this Godfather's got a column that's on all the platforms 222 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: now and on the news tab on the super Coach 223 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: side where he talks about, you know, really trying to 224 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: concentrate on thinking about after the buyers, after best day 225 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: in rounds and where are your rookies going to be 226 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: on field? And you want them in the midfield because 227 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: that's where they're actually scoring or right and prioritize, you know, 228 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: getting those defensive rookies, especially in Ford rookies off the ground. So, 229 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: like you say, sort of trying to aim for another 230 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: big midfield is probably not necessarily where we want to go. 231 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 4: No, most people this week and we'll get into trade 232 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 4: targets but are probably going the other way and looking 233 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 4: cheap used to try and squeeze in this week with 234 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 4: Zabie Lindsay being the obvious one on the bubble. So 235 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 4: I just think you've got to hold off until after 236 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 4: James Jordan. Like we saw apart from what was it 237 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 4: a five or ten minute bursts, really towards the end 238 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 4: of that game when it was closed, when Caleb Sarong 239 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 4: scored about fifty of his ninety eight points, it looked 240 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 4: like it was going to be another James Jordan's scalp 241 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 4: over there in the West. 242 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, it'd be pretty keen to hold off see 243 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: what happens. 244 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 4: And if Nick Dacos scores well in that Sydney game, 245 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 4: then by all means he's probably still going to be 246 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 4: around six hundred K. That's when you can start making 247 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 4: your plans for how to get him in. But the 248 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 4: way that James Jordan has been going and shutting down 249 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 4: some of the best players in the camp wouldn't surprise 250 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 4: you if Nick put up a score below one hundred 251 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 4: and then you might be able to get him for 252 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 4: five point fifty k around that sort of mid year 253 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 4: by time. 254 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be good. 255 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: No little bonus this week, No James Jordan teg I 256 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: just realized that that's nice with free free. 257 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, we just got to think about Tobe. It's unfortunate. 258 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, get to him surely. A couple of the other 259 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: names that I just made, they have these very high 260 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: break evens. Harry, She's been a bit underwhelming to start 261 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: the year, especially when you put the captaincy on him 262 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: like I did last weekend. So b of one eighty four, 263 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: so he's oh sorry, that's Stewart one seventy. 264 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was forward at times. That's Did you say 265 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: he's played zero percent defense this ye? Yeah, that's right. 266 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, we we'll talk about some of those DPPs 267 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: that so he's listed as a defender in Super Coach. 268 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: He spent about sixty percent of time in the midfield 269 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: and forty percent forward, so zero percent in defense where. 270 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: You score all your points at North Melbourne. 271 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, the four line of the moment exactly, well 272 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: traditionally the back. Yeah, but it's a new team down there. 273 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. Tom Stewart will put him down when I thought 274 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: he might miss some games. 275 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: But he does have a very high break even one 276 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: eighty four given that obviously very low score last week. 277 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: So he's one whose price will come down. Seems to 278 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: happen every year with him. Something weird happens at the 279 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: start of the year. Isaac Keeney, he's got a break 280 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: even of one fifty five. And there's a question to 281 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: Jimmy asking is a corrective trade of Gorne to Cherry 282 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: needed with Gorne having a bee of one eighty following that, 283 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, I mean very clearly won that head to 284 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: head battle on the weekend, And I know, Tim, you're 285 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: at one stage Gorne was definitely I've got going out 286 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: of your team, which was wease. 287 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: He can't go o from one to the other. But 288 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on Gorn? 289 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know, Like I as you guys knew, 290 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 4: like when I was watching that matchup, I'm going on, 291 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 4: I'm like by half time, I thought, Max Goorn's going 292 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 4: out of my side. I'm going to cash him in 293 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 4: and I'm going to make use of his value by 294 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 4: getting Bailey Dale in before he goes up, and by 295 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 4: getting kind of Rosy in before he goes up, and 296 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 4: getting Jordan Dawson and all these hot players that I 297 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 4: think a lot of us went to sort of that 298 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 4: four hundred to four to fifty K bracket and thought 299 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 4: that was where the value is. But interestingly this year 300 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 4: it looks like it's more instead of that five hundred 301 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 4: to five hundred and fifty k brackets. So if he's 302 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 4: cutting Max Gorn in half and trying to use his 303 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 4: value to get Bailey Dale, I can understand it. But 304 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 4: the reason that I have gravitated towards holding is after 305 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 4: Jared Witz this week, which I think is a pretty 306 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 4: tough matchup, and maybe he scores one ten, one twenty. 307 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 4: This week, he gets one of Sam de Conning and 308 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 4: Reefs Stanley, he gets Nick Bryan, he gets the Frio guys, 309 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 4: and Frio gave up one hundred and ten points to 310 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 4: Sam de Corning in round one. 311 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: The Tigers. 312 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 4: He always goes about one hundred and eighty against and 313 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 4: then he's got West Coast, who I reckon. I could 314 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 4: probably score Rouck points against West Coast, So his run 315 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 4: after that is really good. And I don't think he's 316 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 4: like Touchwood, he's going to get that far below six 317 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 4: hundred K. So I think the smart boot is going 318 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 4: to be to hold. Would I trade him to Tristan Cherry? 319 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,599 Speaker 4: Though probably Tristan Cherry is the big dog now. I 320 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 4: saw a good tweet that said, like, people are saying, 321 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 4: Tristan Cherry's got this hard run and he's got all 322 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 4: these dangerous players coming up, but like he is the 323 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 4: danger here. 324 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: He is the big dog in super Coach. 325 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yeah, set and forget say it with 326 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 3: me for just don't tinker with the IRAQ. But anyway, 327 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: I can see what you want. 328 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 4: Gone, I've got gone at flex. That's the only reason 329 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 4: I considered splitting him, because the loop I wouldn't be 330 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 4: the only thing that maybe you would trade Gorne is 331 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 4: I think, and Chloe Williamson normally sits in this seat 332 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 4: probably think is thinking along similar lines that we might 333 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 4: only be a few weeks away from seeing Tom de 334 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 4: Conning and Mark Pitney in the same team, and then 335 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 4: you might be able to go Gorney out this week. 336 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 4: He Boughtoms out at hundred six hundred K, and then 337 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 4: you trade Tom de Conning back to Gorn and you 338 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 4: end up with Gorne and Cherry. 339 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: That's a rock combination. 340 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 4: It's not sitting forget, but you've got to think about 341 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 4: what might happen if Tom Deconning and Mark Pitney start 342 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 4: playing in the same team in a few weeks. 343 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 2: Times some quick rookie rulette. 344 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: Trying to get the best rookie scores on the field 345 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: and into our best ads, obviously, is what we're trying 346 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: to do in a by round. Some of the names 347 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: we'll be looking at this week, phats would you be 348 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: starting Levi Ashcroft or Xavier. 349 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 3: Lindsay Chevy Lindsay based on form in the wet as well. 350 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 3: I don't know how Levi's going to go in the wet. 351 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. I just like the cut of Savie 352 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 3: Lindsay's jib and I just think he's neat. 353 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: He's been good. 354 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 3: He's been good, That's all there is to it. 355 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm in the same boat Lindsay. I think what 356 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 4: is averaging six tackles a game? Isn't he which is 357 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 4: phenomenal for a guy playing, isn't he outside midfielder? 358 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, lindsay for. 359 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: Me, bet Tim would use that trainer or James Leak 360 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: if he stays in the team, he had to put 361 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: a rookie defender on. 362 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 4: You don't score ver, you don't score super coach points 363 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 4: in the vfl out, So luke trainer, because I don't 364 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 4: think James Leak will keep you. 365 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 3: Spot this week. 366 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: Actually, we're probably going to well, most of us will 367 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: have like a Matt robertson defense. I suppose Pyramid is going, 368 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: but we'll probably be putting all these rookie defenders yeah 369 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: on and just you know, hopefully someone does something. 370 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, both are going to drop out of my best 371 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 3: so irrelevant. 372 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: Really, that's it. I don't think he will be around 373 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: this week, sorry to tell you. Poor James Isa or 374 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 2: Connor Stone. If he keeps his spot. 375 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 3: I mean, Essen, it's not going to do well against anyone, 376 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: let alone for Port Adelaide, I probably. I mean, if 377 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 3: you can loop Cacko with somebody on the by, then Loopkaco. 378 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 3: But otherwise I think i'd put him on ahead of 379 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 3: No I'd go Stone. I don't know, I don't know 380 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 3: I think Stone. 381 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, fair question. 382 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: And last one, Tim, do you think Lucas Campriali will 383 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: keep his spot and would you put him on or 384 00:14:59,280 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: a logic Hewitt? 385 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: I think Lexis Campreli will keep his spot. 386 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 4: They seem to really like him so and they no 387 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 4: reason to like as bad as Carton has been so 388 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 4: far this season, like he hasn't been largely the reason 389 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 4: for it. 390 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: Like he's looked pretty at home on that wing. 391 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 3: So I don't know. 392 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 4: They're both probably going to score about fifty, aren't they, 393 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 4: Like I wouldn't if he can loop him great, I 394 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 4: don't know. Maybe here it's got slightly more ceiling, like 395 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 4: he might be more likely to hit sort of a 396 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 4: sixty or or seven. 397 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: I'd probably play him over Cambriali if I had the choice. 398 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: The other one quickly you could death throw into that conversation. 399 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: Maybe it would be Jack Henderson if we're bringing him 400 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: in this week, which I probably, I'd play him. 401 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 3: If he's not the sub, then whack him on. 402 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to be sub. 403 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: They seem to like him all right into the questions, 404 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: so keep an eye out for the tweet early in 405 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: the week. 406 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: In reply to that, and we'll get to as many 407 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 2: as we can in the next twenty five minutes or so. 408 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: A couple to kick us off verdict Matt asking for 409 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: a verdict to keep or hold Will Day, and Tim 410 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: has asked a similar question, what do we do with Day? 411 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: Gone to Callahan at the moment, but worried he'll turn 412 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: his form around. He's also thrown in a little asking 413 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: Patrickson will be good again at any time? 414 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 3: Won't? 415 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: That's an easy one to. 416 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 3: Know they won't. Will Day's just slightly more difficult. 417 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 4: Will you admit that they're rebuilding because no one else will? 418 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 4: Brad Scott Whine, Zach Merritt. 419 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 3: Wye, we've been rebuilding for twenty years. 420 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: I think both our clubs have. 421 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 3: We're not very good at securing permits or building materials. 422 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 3: So anyway, that's a that's another thirty five minute discussion 423 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 3: Will Day Longer than that. I'd be trading Will Day. 424 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 3: I just I don't know. We've we know that the 425 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 3: early run was hard, but I think Finn Callahan has 426 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: proven that he's, you know, looking the goods. Will Day. 427 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 3: I'm not as sure about whether or not you'd be 428 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 3: trading Day to Callahan or trying to trying to trade 429 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 3: Day up to like a kind of Rosie or Jordan Dawson. 430 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 3: I think I'd rather do that, but yeah, i'd be 431 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 3: moving all day on. What are you thinking, Tim, you're 432 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 3: a Will Day owner. 433 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 4: I'm holding, but like only because I've got other things 434 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 4: that I'm dealing with this week. Like I can totally 435 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 4: understand why people are going to jump off. So we 436 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 4: copped Tobe Bedford more than likely this week, then a 437 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 4: buye then potentially Will and Drew the week after that. 438 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 4: So you're looking at two tags either side of a buy. 439 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 4: I think round seven and round eight look more attractive 440 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 4: when he's got the Eagles in Richmond's. He'd hope if 441 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 4: you persisted that he could sort of start to turn 442 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 4: the form around then. But that's a long time to 443 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 4: be holding, and you're probably giving up hundreds of points 444 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 4: to people that go to Dawson and Rosie types. 445 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: So that's where I'd be looking to go. 446 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,239 Speaker 4: Like, I'm just not as good as Fink Callahan has 447 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 4: been in the first couple of games, Like I'm not 448 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 4: sold on the fact that he's going to be anywhere 449 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 4: near the top eight mids this year. He's probably gonna 450 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 4: average sort of somewhere in that one hundred hundred and 451 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 4: five range. So that puts him in that next bracket 452 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 4: and means that it's some stage you're gonna have to 453 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 4: upgrade him. If you started him awesome, I think you've 454 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 4: done really well. But I wouldn't be burning a trade 455 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 4: to get him in now to then ship him out 456 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 4: at some point to probably a Dawson or Rosie top. 457 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 4: I would rather find that one hundred K and get 458 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 4: to someone like Jordan Dawson that is a genuine top 459 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 4: eight contender. And if you can get him now before 460 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 4: he's six hundred and twenty K, yes, well it does 461 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 4: the other part. Rose's about to go up by twenty 462 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 4: or thirty K. Dawson maybe not as much, but he's 463 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 4: going to go up by again this week. 464 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 3: So and we also just don't have enough data on 465 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 3: what color hand looks like with Tom Green in the 466 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 3: side as well, how that impacts is scoring long term. 467 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 3: I think I don't know. I'm too many questions marks 468 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 3: for me. 469 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 4: I think Callahan's going to get tagged sooner as well. 470 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 4: So I know Tom Green's been the number one tag 471 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 4: target at GWS, but Callahan is the one that is 472 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 4: going to hurt you, like out of those two. And 473 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 4: teams don't really tag the accumulator all that often, don't they. 474 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 4: Like if Tom Green has thirty five, he might hurt you, 475 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 4: but if Finn Callahan as twenty five, he can really 476 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 4: hurt you. So I think we're going to see teams 477 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 4: start to go to him, and I think they've got 478 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 4: some killed in a couple of weeks. So I would 479 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 4: not be surprised if Marcus Windhager sided up to Finn 480 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 4: Callahan and that might be the end of his cash 481 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 4: generation there. 482 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 2: And then if we do. 483 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: Someone know I'm stealing this from another podcast, made the 484 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: point that the Saints might remember that Finn just knocked 485 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: back there. Well that's it, ye one hundred million dollar 486 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: offer and say hello, Marcus, we don't have Marcus win 487 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: As a question if from our which touches on this 488 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: about just should we prioritize castume make three rookie corrections 489 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: or you're going for points on field like Calahan Bailey 490 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: Dale type. 491 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: So I think that's where it lands for me. 492 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: Like you know you're talking about you know you maybe 493 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: you would trade all day if you had you know, 494 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,239 Speaker 1: seven eight ten trades for the week. But if you've 495 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: only got three, and we're certainly advocating, you know, totally 496 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: fine to use a trade boost this week. I think 497 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: the priority is to make sure you've got those rookies 498 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: who are going to make all the money. And then 499 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 1: but if you've already got you know, Nathan O. Driskoo, 500 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: you've already got le Boy, you've already got jack Inerson 501 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: on the bench, or Zavier Lindsay, and then you know 502 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,479 Speaker 1: you sort of might have a spare one. 503 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 2: Maybe that's you know, when you look at moving on 504 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 2: someone like Will Day. 505 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think absolutely rookies need to be the focus 506 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 3: this week, and the fantoms there went through, you know, 507 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 3: in details which rookies are the priority and which rookies 508 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 3: you can probably leave. We won't recap that here too much, 509 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 3: but I think if you need to use three trades 510 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 3: to fix the rookies, you use that and you leave 511 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 3: Max go On or Will Day or whoever it is, 512 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 3: that's kind of underperforming a little bit. 513 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 4: This is where I'm really because I like my third 514 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 4: trade on the weekend sort of got got thrown up 515 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 4: in the air because I was going to Bailey Smith 516 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 4: because I cried for that Geelong game in round one 517 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 4: after I took him out about thirty minutes before the 518 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 4: bound so I thought, no, I'll get on the Bailey 519 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 4: Smith train and bring him in and then had to pivot. 520 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 4: And because I had so much cash, I didn't really 521 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 4: look at the rookies all that much and I just 522 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 4: went to Sam de Conne, who was okay, but it's 523 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 4: probably going to play full back soon and I fully 524 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 4: think I'm going to regret that move. But if I'd 525 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 4: gone to Zavia Lindsay, I might have had a bit 526 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 4: more flexibility this week because the rest of my rookies 527 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 4: are about the only part of my side that looks 528 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 4: okay at the moment. So I'm frustrated I didn't go 529 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 4: down that path, But I think Al's right, like, if 530 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 4: you've got all those Lindsay and all the good cash generators, great, 531 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 4: but if not, you've got to fix that up this week. 532 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 4: Otherwise you're just going to be left behind and teams 533 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 4: are going to be upgrading two weeks before you do. 534 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 535 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: So, speaking of rookies, quite a few questions about Connor 536 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: O's Sullivan down back, so you know, sort of jumped 537 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: out of the box a bit as part of me 538 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: as a defensive rookie. That's obviously is an area that 539 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: we've struggled with. But you know some something it Basically 540 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: this question is Connor O'Sullivan. I must have he is 541 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: worried that defenders always go well against and Kilda. He's 542 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: sort of got a good role when Tom Stewart went 543 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: off injured and now Stuart might even played this week. 544 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 1: Cole Jasney might be back in a week or two 545 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, how do we where do we sit 546 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: on Connor of Sullivan? Do we need to bring him 547 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: in this week? He's got a big negative negative fifty 548 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: three break even does. 549 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 2: It just a pen patch? 550 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: Like? 551 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: How deep your defense is? 552 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 4: So a lot of coaches are already going four deep 553 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 4: if you if you call Joel Fraser a premium like 554 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 4: maybe having Fraser at D four like I know, I 555 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 4: when I traded in c M. De Conning last round 556 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 4: he was D five, So I've and then I've got 557 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 4: Riley Biss as well, who's on the by this week 558 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 4: but looks like he's going to become a staple of 559 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 4: the Sydney back line. So I think if you're that 560 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 4: deep already he's not necessarily must have, Like he's a 561 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 4: nice sort of luxury rookie to get in, but you're 562 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 4: probably going sort of a Zach Reid or Luke Traynor 563 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 4: sideways to O'Sullivan to potentially get him in, unless you're 564 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 4: trading like Jackson pryor if you started him. 565 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 2: So is he worth a sideways trade? 566 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 4: Like, I don't know if you got to remember that 567 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago against Frio he scored forty eight, 568 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 4: So he was incredible in that second half against the Kilda. 569 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 4: Really liked what I saw and thought he was deserving 570 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 4: of the rising Star, even though dor from the Eagles 571 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 4: made a pretty strong case. But yeah, I don't think 572 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 4: he must have, but I'd be happy getting him in. 573 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 4: I don't think he'll be in my three trades this week, 574 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 4: but only because of how deep my defense already is. 575 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed, If you need a defensive rookie then he's 576 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 3: you know, you could argue going to Bias this week's 577 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 3: a better move, and just because he'll be the one 578 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 3: we do want, but he'll be okay, I guess. 579 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 4: And it's also the fact, sorry we've got Kitty Coleman 580 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 4: not too far away at Brisbane and Callum Mills not 581 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 4: too far away in Sydney. So you've got a factor 582 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 4: in that these guys are in here a couple of 583 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 4: weeks away and we're going to want them. So there's 584 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 4: only so many defenders you can fit into your team too, 585 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 4: so you're going to have Bailey Dale, Ane Connor, O'Sullivan 586 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 4: and Riley Bison over the next couple of weeks with 587 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 4: these other guys on the horizon. 588 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 3: We've also just had news as we've been recording Stardel 589 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 3: Hawley will debut as well, so there's another one to 590 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 3: keep an eye on a few weeks down the track, 591 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 3: so that, yeah, break breaking news that's hours old by 592 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 3: the time you hear this. Yeah, So I mean, looking ahead, 593 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 3: I'd rather Buys and Possiblyholly, depending on if he's the 594 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 3: star board how that rolls out. So I'm passing. 595 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Bias is the one that I'll be 596 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: wanting to bring. I know you could bring him in 597 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: this week even though Sydney's on the boy looked so 598 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 1: good last weekend, but sensible players just to wait. 599 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: Make sure you know he doesn't But and he scored 600 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: eighty so he won't be scoring anything this week. 601 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 4: I'm just petrofied of leaving a Gelong rookie out though, 602 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 4: because I did the same on the logic of Holy 603 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 4: Dempsey last year and he won the Rising Stars, so 604 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 4: that works out tremendously for me. 605 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 3: I think that Toby Travalia as well might be playing. 606 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 2: Well, here's another one that's been flagged, So yeah, there's 607 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: a few around. 608 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: So I don't think we have to jump on you 609 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: every defensive rookie that pops up, especially because I wouldn't 610 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: be trading a Perryman down to O Sullivan for example, 611 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: and having to field an extra rookie in defense. You 612 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: only want, sort of going back to what you ad 613 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: was talking about, you only want probably one at the 614 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: most on field. So to me, that's probably you know, 615 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 1: Peyton's buy us next week, and then if we get 616 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: a you know, a Travali or a Haul in another 617 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: two or three weeks, it'll be perfect. Just you know, 618 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: cash in a big you know, make forty grand or 619 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: something off Zach Reed and cash him in and yeah, 620 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: just be rotating those guys rather than than bringing you 621 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: an extra. 622 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 2: I can't believe he'd be sucked in Zach Reed again. 623 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: So Reese has asked how many rookies should we have 624 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: on field in defense? Well, we've sort of just answered that, really, 625 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: I mean I think we only won one, yeah, quick 626 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: one scud asking worth trading Will Ashcroft to fill Finn 627 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: the Callahan. So Will's been, you know, not quite as 628 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: good as we thought. Maybe, but I mean he hasn't 629 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: been oplus seventy three and one hundred and four in 630 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: his two games. They're basically the same price. 631 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,719 Speaker 3: Is it worth using a trade depends on the rest 632 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 3: of your priorities. I again would be prior to some rookies. Maybe, sure. Yeah, 633 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 3: We've spoken about Callahan a bit as well. I'm not 634 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 3: as hot on him and would rather you do some 635 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 3: DPPs and get like a frasery In or a Bally 636 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 3: Smith if you don't have him more. Yeah, I don't know. 637 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 2: I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't need that to know. 638 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just that classic thing, you know, in 639 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: around seventeen when we're running out of trade, do you think, 640 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: why did I swap Ashcroft to Callahan and they ended 641 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: up averaging basically the same? 642 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 4: So, yeah, there's an obvious allure there when you look 643 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 4: at Callahan's break even this week compared to Ashcroft. But 644 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 4: realistically you think over the season, what Callahan might average 645 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 4: five points more game like, is that really worth a trade? 646 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 647 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, trades, trades are pretty vable, especially Yeah, once they 648 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: start getting a bit low. It seems we've got plenty now, 649 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: but the number goes down pretty quickly. A question from 650 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: inside mids do we go perimid up to a Whitfield 651 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: type or sideways to a Callahan type via some DPP 652 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: or I suppose you could look at a maybe a 653 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: Frasier if you just want to get a defender in. 654 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, if we're trading out Harry Perman as I 655 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: certainly am, is the idea. I think what I want 656 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: to do is getting a defender that's just a premium 657 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: that I can lock in and not have to worry about. 658 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to be dealing with another mid price 659 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: or a rookie. 660 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 4: Is that what? 661 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm bringing in one of the Whitfields of seeing Claire, 662 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 3: so one of those types, and I'm bringing Frasiery and 663 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 3: I've got some cash sitting there. But I think if 664 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 3: I was in that position where I can only get 665 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 3: one of them, I'd be trying to go up and 666 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 3: get one of the bigger guys like Jack Sinkler. I 667 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 3: think it's great this week, not just because he's playing 668 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 3: Richmond and could score two hundred and seventy eight points 669 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 3: in the first half. Yeah, yeah, I think that's how 670 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 3: I do it. 671 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 2: No, I agree. 672 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 4: I think especially that top echelon of defenders now, they're 673 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 4: so far ahead of like they're scoring as well as 674 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 4: the premium midfielders like you're talking Whitfield Zorco Sinclair looks 675 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 4: like he's going to be in that mix again. Dan 676 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 4: Clarks had a great Jordan Clarks, She's obviously hasn't quite 677 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 4: been there. Bailey Dale has been phenomenal as well, and 678 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 4: you can get him for five twenty K At the 679 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 4: moment before, I think he's projected to go up about 680 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 4: forty K. So any of those look like really good options. 681 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 4: I'd be pretty happy picking. 682 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: And he had to any of those five or six 683 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: to pick one's crazy. At the start of the year, 684 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: I just couldn't find anybody that I like to put 685 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: it D two. Besides, she's all now, Yeah, there's about 686 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: half a dozen that would have all been great picks. 687 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 4: Locky Wheatfield because somehow teams kick about fifteen points every week. 688 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 4: He gets to ws and he but he runs faster 689 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 4: than anyone to get them. So I think that's where 690 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 4: I'd be going. Bailey Dale's a great pig too, although 691 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 4: I think Matt Kottrell probably sits on him this week. 692 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that just makes me a little bit nervous that 693 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: he might get some tags, but he will. He's the 694 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 2: vital tag. I don't think he's the best tag and 695 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 2: necessarily in the car. He's far from it. 696 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 4: But he has done defensive jobs already for Carlton, so 697 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 4: I think that'll that will happen. 698 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: Another question on a rookies patch. If you have a 699 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: dead rookie sitting on the bench like Alred, like an 700 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: Angers Hasey, would you prioritize getting it rid of him, 701 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: or a rookie who's maybe playing but just not scoring 702 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: very many points like a Phino Sullivan Todd, Yeah, you. 703 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 3: Got to get rid of the dead wood. You just 704 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 3: need as many players playing and scoring points and generating 705 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 3: cash as you can. And if that means you keep 706 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 3: Finish Sullivan, then keep Fino Sullivan. Just make sure you 707 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 3: get rid of the dead rookies. I'm looking at maybe 708 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 3: moving on Bowell and if he's not named this week, 709 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 3: so that's how I'd be looking at it. 710 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: And I mean you mentioned Phinos Sullivan's I was original 711 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: thinking of trading him and keeping Elijasatus who looked a 712 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: little bit more promising last weekend. But now with the 713 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: news he's out, would you tim trade him first or 714 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: keep him and thinking after a couple of weeks he 715 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 1: comes back in he actually has a decent role, might 716 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: score some points, make us some money. 717 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: But it's a bit of a wait. 718 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 4: I guess yeah, I don't know, like I can understand 719 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 4: why people are moving them on because you're talking one 720 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 4: hundred and ninety K rookies, Like you can do a 721 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 4: fair bit with that cash, Like if you even the 722 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 4: forty K that you make from trading Sardis to Lindsey 723 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 4: this week might enable you to grab a Jordan Dawson 724 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 4: type instead of settling for Finclor. And I think it'll 725 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 4: be fine, But like we said, I don't think be 726 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 4: sort of that top eight contender that a Jordan Dawson would. 727 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 4: So I'm trying to hold both O'Sullivan and Sardis. Sardis 728 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 4: because I think he's in Essenon's best team. 729 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 3: Now. 730 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 4: Hopefully his time on ground is going to improve when 731 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 4: he comes back, and he's got to break even in 732 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 4: the negative twenties, I think, so we're going to get 733 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 4: some cash out of him when he does come back. 734 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: If you know Sullivan, I get that he's probably going 735 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: to be a slow burn. 736 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 4: But at some point, he like his number two draft Pie, 737 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 4: he's going to score that eighty or ninety that we 738 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 4: need to start some quick cash generation at some point. 739 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 4: Whether it's as soon as we hoped, I don't know, 740 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 4: but I think long term, people that hold him and 741 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 4: have a bit of patience are going to be rewarded. 742 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably have to choose one unfortunately, so yeah, it 743 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: might be might be status going just because yeah, the 744 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: cash isn't going to be coming in for. 745 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 2: There's a few weeks. 746 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 4: There's also the same point if while statist is out, 747 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 4: I know they've got to buy in one of them. 748 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 2: But let's say Esena beats Port Adelaide. Yeah, which might 749 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 2: won't happen patch, but let's say it. I can I 750 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 2: can dream, but they can that they stick with the 751 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 2: team and he doesn't get back in and he's got 752 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: to play. He's got to play. 753 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 3: Parish could be back after the buyers. 754 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: Well, that's that's another too, so he probably trade status. 755 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 3: Yep, I'm trading him. 756 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: I can probably take this one from Flagg is what 757 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: do we do with j Chef? Of course everyone should 758 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,239 Speaker 1: have listened to me, including myself, and not started him, 759 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: which I was going to do all summer, and then 760 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: I caved and put him into my team. And obviously 761 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: scoring sixty OD points against Richmond was not what we 762 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: thought was going to happen. But I don't I think 763 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: we can get rid of him. You just have to 764 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: stick him there. I still think he'll be one of 765 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: the top forwards over the course of the year. Not 766 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: totally wrapped with this new idea of playing Willie Rioli 767 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: at center bounces and horn Francis out of the goal square. 768 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: But I think in the long run he'll still be okay. 769 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, no, not worth the trade, certainly when we 770 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: have all these other things going on this week. 771 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 3: If he's your biggest problem, then congrat would start planning 772 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 3: what he's spend about fifty k on. 773 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: And we pretty much all have him done. We say, 774 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: we're all all in the same boat. 775 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 4: I've seen people trading him to Rankin. As good as 776 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 4: Rankin's been, I wouldn't be desperate enough to make that 777 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 4: move either. Jason Horn Francis is going to be on 778 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 4: the angry pills every week like it was against Richmond, 779 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 4: which made no sense because they were about ninety points 780 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 4: upper quarter time. But he just has those weeks, doesn't 781 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 4: he where he just has brain explosions and gives away 782 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 4: about fifteen free kicks and his score suffered because of that. 783 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 4: But ultimately like he's going to be a top six forward. 784 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: I'll throw this one too, you Tim. 785 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: Someone asking will Track be gaining dpp Ford status? So 786 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: we do have some early numbers on. We have this 787 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: question every year, yes everyone, yeah, exactly. His name always 788 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: comes up and we see him playing for forward and think, 789 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: here we go Track the forward in super coach. 790 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 2: But is it going to happen? Can we make a prediction? 791 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 2: At this stage? Early's close. 792 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 4: I think he's the thirty about thirty percent hour, he's 793 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 4: like twenty seven, I think twenty, so he's high twenty. 794 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 2: So he needs to play a fair bit forward in 795 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks. 796 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 4: So the first batch of DPP changes last year took 797 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 4: place after that first allotment of buys, which was after 798 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 4: round six. 799 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 2: This year they're a week earlier, so they're after round 800 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 2: five going into Round six. 801 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 4: So we've only got a couple of weeks now for 802 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 4: players to get up to that thirty five percent threshold. 803 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 4: So you're talking probably fifty percent forward minimum in the 804 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 4: next couple of weeks for Christian Petraka to get there. 805 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 4: So I think it's more unlikely than likely. But the 806 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 4: exciting ones for ust Zach Merritt is Zach Merritt potentially 807 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 4: Zack Merrit forward. He's thirty one percent at the moment, 808 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 4: which those that have ready our sort of full DPP 809 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 4: wrap up will know. And Chad Warner is sitting at 810 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 4: close to forty percent forwards. So if I almost said 811 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 4: John Longmow, if Dean Cox can play a little bit 812 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 4: more forward in the next couple of weeks, we might 813 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 4: get Chad Warner as yeah f one going into round six, 814 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 4: which massive. 815 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: Some rookies too, are going to be really handy, Like 816 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: if a Jack Henderson or Lebo Ashcroft looks like you'll. 817 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,239 Speaker 4: Get both of those forward, well, Jack Anderson's a lot 818 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 4: because he's about ninety nine point five percent forward or 819 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,479 Speaker 4: something like He's he's right up there, and Leviy Ashcross 820 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 4: in the sixties. So you think both of those get it, 821 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 4: Which means that as of round six, we're going to 822 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 4: be able to take Isaac Kako and Sam Davison and 823 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 4: these guys off field and field some more reliable rookies 824 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 4: up forward. And at the same time, I think a 825 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,959 Speaker 4: lot of us are in a difficult position where we're 826 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 4: wanting to field a lot of these midfield rookies that 827 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 4: are mid only being able to play. You know, Sullivan 828 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 4: as a defender, Lee by Ashcroft and Jack Anderson as 829 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 4: forwards opens up two or three spots to start getting 830 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 4: the big guns into your midfield as well. 831 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Nick, Yeah they could all work out beautifully, 832 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: But if you know Sullivan as a defender, I like 833 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: the center that they could also be something to keep 834 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: in mind, although now it seems like we have rookie 835 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: defenders coming from everywhere. We'll finish up with one last question. 836 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: I'll throw it to you Patrick. I know Tim will 837 00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: probably want to have a say on this as well. 838 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: From all have to I don't really want to keep short, 839 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: but looking at him as a placeholder, maybe to get 840 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: Tom Stewart in after his price comes down in a 841 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: few weeks time. 842 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 2: Is it a fair hold? What do we do with 843 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 2: Jayden Short? 844 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: Don't start him. You shouldn't have started him. I told 845 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 3: you it wasn't worth the mental anguish, and here we are. 846 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 3: I was just blinded by your eyes. Patch didn't hear 847 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 3: the advice. I look, I don't know what to tell you. 848 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 3: It's I mean, you can't go back in time. You've 849 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 3: got him in your side. I would be moving him 850 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 3: onto a Fraser if you don't have Joel Fraser. If 851 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 3: you've got the cash to go up to someone, do it. 852 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 3: I would again, it's not worth the mental energy to 853 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 3: hold him. I get rid of him. But you could, 854 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 3: you know, probably lower on the priority list. And it 855 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 3: puts a. 856 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 4: Strain on my friendship because like every Richmond game, I 857 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 4: just flood the super Coach group chat with how much 858 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 4: I dislike Jayden Short, and when he didn't take kick ins, 859 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 4: and Ben Miller, like one ninety seven centimeter defender started 860 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 4: taking kick in So we were promised the Short keep 861 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 4: the footy game style by Adam mose A, and now 862 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 4: we've got Ben Miller kicking at sixty five meters instead 863 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 4: like Luke Ryan style kickouts. Like it is just the 864 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 4: polar opposite of like maybe he was just playing Ducks 865 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 4: and Drakes in pre season or something, but I don't 866 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 4: think there's any bigger preseason teas. 867 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Jade Short, He's. 868 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 4: Proven that year in year out, and I keep going 869 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 4: there every single year and tormenting myself. I reckon, I'll 870 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 4: probably hold him for a couple more weeks and then 871 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 4: go to a meals or a conwin or somewhere. I'm 872 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 4: just gonna have to put up with it for a 873 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 4: few more weeks until I have these and we're going 874 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 4: to really good get out options in a few weeks time. 875 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 3: And we're gonna have to put up with you complaining 876 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 3: about it until then. Oh I would never do that patch, No, 877 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 3: of course not. 878 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 2: Richmond does the sin killa this week. 879 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: You do give up points to defenders, so there's a 880 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: chance there he might get his break even of ninety four. 881 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: Hopefully he doesn't lose too much money for you at 882 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: least gonna happen. Quick question is come into the run 883 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: sheet here. I didn't see this early, but Dan Batton 884 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: has jumped in and asked, tell me whether to trade Gorn, 885 00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: JHF or neither Patch neither right answer good, neither, Okay, 886 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: thank you everybody, so many questions. A huge show, huge 887 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: week in Super Coach, Good luck with all your trades. 888 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: Will be back at six point thirty on Thursday with 889 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: the live Teams show, so we'll see all the ins 890 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: and outs and talk through all the ramifications and some 891 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: captain tips then Bud. 892 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 2: Until then, happy trading, Thank. 893 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 3: You, Patch, thank you all. 894 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 2: Tim Oh good to be back, great Davy, thanks everybody. 895 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 2: We'll talk soon