1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Hi, welcome back to Bounce Forward with me. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 2: Tip Paul, I'd like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: the land on which I'm recording this podcast, the will 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: under people of the cooler Nation. I pay my respects 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 2: to elders past and present. Holly DMed me with a 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: great question. Hey, Tif, I've loved following your career and 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 2: watching tichs O grow. 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: Thanks Holly. 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: I'm really interested in a career in health and fitness. 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: Can you give me some tips to take it from 11 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: a hobby and just loving the gym to an actual career. Oh? 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: Holy this got me stumped because I don't know. 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: I don't know how I made it happen for myself, 14 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 2: but all I know that it takes a great deal 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: of passion to take it from a hobby to a career, 16 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: because just training yourself is one thing, but training other 17 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: people it can be a real grind, and you've really 18 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: got to love it, and you really got to make 19 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: sure you're a people person. And for me, I did 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: the one on one, I did the boot camps, and 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 2: then I went into group fitness, which I super loved. 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: And when I was doing group. 23 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: Fitness, and I did my Les Mills accreditation, and I 24 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: taught body pump and body combat. I realized I liked 25 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: teaching big groups and that's kind of led me to 26 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: being an online trainer where I'm teaching big groups all 27 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: the time and on camera and doing presenting kind of stuff. 28 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: And so my advice to you is to try everything 29 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: in the fitness space, because at first I was a 30 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: bit scared of being on stage and taking a class 31 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 2: right one on one. Pretty safe, you're just with one person, 32 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: have a laugh, have a chat. But then I was like, oh, 33 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: get on stage and take a class. That freaked me 34 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: out at first, but then I really loved it and 35 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: it's become my main passion. So for you try everything, 36 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: and then once you find what you really love, specialized. 37 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: So for me, I specialized in taekwondo. Obviously, martial arts 38 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: was my thing. I doubled down on that. I got 39 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: my sports coaching accreditation, I got my sixth them black belt, 40 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: all of my qualifications within martial arts, and then following 41 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 2: on that, I was like, you know what, I really 42 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: want to specialize with women because martial arts can be 43 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: a male dominated sport. I was mostly you know what, 44 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 2: in the beginning of my career training men, training boys, 45 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: and I realized that I was really all about women 46 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 2: and empowering women and empowering women to try martial arts 47 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: and to you know, try and get women into martial 48 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 2: arts and get confident and self defense angle. And so 49 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 2: I wanted to more specialize in women. And that's why 50 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 2: currently I'm doing my pre and postnatal certification and I'm 51 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 2: so excited about that. It's everything to do with women's bodies, 52 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: and it's taking a while to complete, but I am 53 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: so excited to try and get that. I really do 54 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 2: hope I pass. And so, you know, it's about specializing. 55 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: I think so many people look at a career in 56 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: health and fitness and they're just so general. They're like, well, 57 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: I'm about weight loss, and I'm a bit about kettlebells, 58 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: and I'm a bit about this, and you know, you 59 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: really do have to specialize to stand out from the crowd. 60 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: And that's the reason clients are going to come to 61 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: you as well. They're going to come to you because 62 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: you're the person to teach them, you know, in I 63 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: don't know, any kind of hybrid training, maybe they're interested 64 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: in or whatever path you choose to go down. I 65 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: really do think it's an exciting time for you, Holly, 66 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: but I think you need to take some time out 67 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: to really try a few things and see what you 68 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: really really love. Because some people get on stage to 69 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: do group fitness and they just die, and that's not 70 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: for them. Some people do one on one and find 71 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: the grind of a new client showing up on the hour, 72 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: every hour, every half hour to just be a bit 73 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: much in a long day and just too hard to 74 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: do the programming and too much prep. But you know, 75 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: others love the prep and programming. So it just depends. 76 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: It depends on you. But if you ever need any advice, 77 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: I'm here, so reach out, Holly, and good luck with it. 78 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: A really crucial part of my journey has been going 79 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: to different facilities, different gyms, and experiencing different trainers, and 80 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 2: this has just been such a mentoring, important mentoring experience 81 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: for me, and I would urge you, Holly, to go 82 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 2: and find a trainer mentor so for me, I was 83 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 2: in commercial gyms all the time, teaching les mills, and 84 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: if a trainer couldn't make a class, I was a 85 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 2: person that would fill in. So I was a filling 86 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: trainer and that would take me to all kinds of 87 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: gyms and I would get to see all kinds of 88 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: trainers performing training people. Then I've lived in different cities, 89 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 2: so I've lived in Brisbane, I've lived in Sydney for work. 90 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 2: I also made sure that I went to a lot 91 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: of different gyms in that time and witness other trainers training, 92 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: and that I learned so much from that. My time 93 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: on Biggest Loser was so exciting because I got to 94 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: work so closely with Michelle Bridges, Shannon Ponton, Steve Willis Commando, 95 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 2: and you know, learn from them their training styles. They're 96 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: phenomenal and that was a real mentoring time in my career. 97 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: And then also when I was the director of Training 98 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: for Chris Hemsworth Center APP, I was working with something 99 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: like thirteen to fifteen other trainers who were global and 100 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: from all corners of the world, and I got to 101 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 2: learn so much from them, from boxing to yoga, to 102 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: strength training, to bodybuilding to gymnastics, and I picked up all. 103 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: These little things along the way. 104 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: So mentoring is really important and I have some mentors 105 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: that I still see today. Tash Jack is one of 106 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: my mentors. She is a pre and postnatal trainer, which 107 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: really inspired me to get my qualification. We've trained together 108 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: for many many years as she's been my trainer. Every 109 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: coach needs a coach, right and she's trained me. I've 110 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 2: watched her train other people and I still go to 111 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 2: her for advice. She's my right hand woman, and I 112 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: just really protect that relationship, which is great. I've also 113 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: got other mentors in the martial arts space through my parents' 114 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 2: martial arts schools. You know Luke Atkins, He's a prolific 115 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: martial arts artists. And also I turned to my parents 116 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 2: who are fitness instructors and martial arts instructors as. 117 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: Well for advice. 118 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: So I feel like the more you learn, the more 119 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: you realize you don't know, and you really do need 120 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: to go searching for those mentors and experts to shadow. 121 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: And I really loved doing a lot of time in 122 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: gyms where I just would ask a really great trainer, 123 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: hey can I shadow you for a couple of sessions 124 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: or a couple of weeks, and they'd be like, yeah, sure, 125 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: I've got clients on Tuesday, come in at nine and 126 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,119 Speaker 2: spend a few hours. And I would just watch them 127 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: literally stand there and watch them train someone and you 128 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: just pick up so much by shadowing. So that's a 129 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: really good tip. And I'd also really urge you to 130 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: go into different environments. So, you know, go do a 131 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: class at a boutique gym, Go do a class at 132 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: a tiny personal trainer studio where they just do one 133 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: on ones. Go and try a commercial gym spin class. 134 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: You know, go into different environments and see what suits 135 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: you best. The big pumping, loud music of a commercial 136 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: gym that might be you. That might be your jam, 137 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: or you might go, oh my god, I can't think 138 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: of anything worse than this, And I'm just going to 139 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: go boutique like it's I've trained at all kinds of 140 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: recovery centers and athletes centers and all kinds of places 141 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: and really found that, oh I don't. 142 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: Really like any of them. I'm going to go online 143 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: and I'm going to hide. And I just love being online. 144 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 2: And I love that experience of how people can talk 145 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: to me and I can be so available to people, 146 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 2: and it's so much easier online than just having one 147 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: person at a time. I find that's my love of 148 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 2: the community. I really love that aspect of online. But 149 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: I didn't know that and I didn't know that for 150 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: so many years, not until like twenty seventeen, and I'd 151 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 2: been peeteaing and doing my thing for like, you know, 152 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: almost ten years at that point. So yeah, definitely get 153 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 2: out there, findamental, do some shadowing, and experience different fitness environments. 154 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: So Holly, to start training in the industry, taking your 155 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: hobby of loving the gym to an actual career, You're 156 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: going to need to get your SIRT three CIRT four 157 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: in fitness, which is pretty easy to do. You can 158 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: do it online or you can. But look, here's my advice. 159 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 2: I wouldn't There's courses all over the world SIRT three 160 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: SIRT for qualifications and something you can just get in 161 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 2: a weekend, but I wouldn't do that. I would go 162 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: through a reputable body in Australia and one that takes 163 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: a little while to get and has a practical requirement 164 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: that makes you go into a gym and shadow someone 165 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:02,599 Speaker 2: and do some prack like because it can be very theoretical. 166 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: You can get it pretty easily and without even training people, 167 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 2: which is just crazy. 168 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: So go to your. 169 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 2: Favorite gym, say hey, I'm doing my SIRT three SIRT 170 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: for can I shadow can I be mentored. Can you 171 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 2: help me through this process of getting my SIRT three 172 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: sirt for and it'll just be so much more rewarding 173 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: and put you on the front foot in entering the industry. 174 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening to Bounce Forward. 175 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: I absolutely love having your company, So please DM me 176 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: on Instagram at tiff Hall Underscore XO and let me 177 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: know all the questions you'd love me to cover. Don't 178 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: forget to rate and review me on your podcast out 179 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 2: Speak soon. 180 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: Happy Days,