1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: We told very sixty year a league from every angle 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: joining me in the great Gordon tallis Jona Australian, James 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: Hooper and Dave Riccio and the Lachlan Galvin drama continues 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: to get bigger, louder, and evolve at the rate and knots. 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: And we'll get to that very surely. 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 3: But let's not forget there is a huge weekend of 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 3: rugby league on this long Easter weekend and I can't wait. 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: You're looking forward to a. 9 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 4: Gordon absolutely, It's probably one of my favorite weekends. Rugby 10 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 4: league from Thursday or Monday couldn't get any better. And 11 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 4: every game has got to been a meeting. Hopefully the 12 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 4: Titans can get up. I'll be at that one on 13 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 4: Sunday afternoon. 14 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 5: Good Friday, Gordy, that's where it's at. 15 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 6: Bunnies and the Bulldogs. 16 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 5: They'll get over seventy thousand in a core stadium. I 17 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 5: love the narrative of Wayne Bennett and all his decades 18 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 5: of experience up against Serralda. 19 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 6: The latest top shot broke. 20 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 7: You've mentioned watching the show I Reckon. You've mentioned about 21 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 7: four to five times that you're going to this game. 22 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 7: You're very vocal about getting to this game. 23 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 8: You're quite excited, very excited, Sidney, with the clubs all 24 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 8: up in the jump in the limo. 25 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: You'll be in a limo, all theay attitude. I'm getting 26 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: an uber out there and ready we have a couple. 27 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 4: Of cob straight in. 28 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: I'm not sure where we're sitting it, but I'll find out. 29 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: I'll let you know. All right, now, let's get to 30 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: back to business. 31 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 3: War in camps launched pr campaigns to control the narrative 32 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: in regards to Lochland Galvin. Now, all week we've heard 33 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: what seems to be coming from one side. But as 34 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: the wig has gone on in today, hoops, I'll come 35 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: to you. The Tigers are starting the toll. 36 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no question this is very ugly. 37 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 6: Now breath. 38 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 5: But what we heard out of Concord today was that 39 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 5: it's actually Benji Marshall who has made this decision to 40 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 5: put Lachland Galvin back in New South Wales Cup. Yes, 41 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 5: he went to the senior players and he said this 42 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 5: is what I'm thinking. I want to hear what you 43 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 5: guys have got to say. They certainly didn't try and 44 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 5: dissuade him, and then from there obviously they've made that 45 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 5: call Locke. He's at the front of the players at 46 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 5: some point, which the Tigers are adamant that he was 47 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 5: offered that opportunity. He said, yes, I will take that 48 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 5: opportunity to speak to the players. 49 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 7: Did shown some gumption from Galvin to get up in 50 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 7: front of the group, Then. 51 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 6: It is yeah, in the circumstances, and. 52 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 7: If that's clearly Hoops is reporting what he knows here, 53 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 7: that's much more pleasing to hear than the players going 54 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 7: to the coach and telling him which team. 55 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 6: To pick, because that's not what happened. 56 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 8: That's right, that's right. 57 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 3: So what I'm We're diving these a little bit more 58 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 3: later on. Let's get to this first. The social media pileline. 59 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 3: Did taruv across the line with the locker room post, 60 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 3: I'll look on. 61 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 6: A dinosaur Raith. 62 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 5: I'm not even on social media, but for me, I 63 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 5: didn't have an issue with it. But obviously out there 64 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 5: in the modern world in twenty twenty five, the way 65 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 5: the cards sit in this day and age, some people do. 66 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 8: Jimmy, I think it went too far, or I do. 67 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 7: If you think about it too environment, you boys will 68 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 7: speak to it much better. 69 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 8: Than I will. 70 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 7: But that doesn't galvanize a team that ostracizes a player, 71 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 7: that ostracizes a teammate. And I appreciate what Jimmy's saying, 72 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 7: but at the same time he's putting on show. 73 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 8: He's putting him on show, and I think it went 74 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 8: too far. 75 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that. 76 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: I think what's important to mention here though, is Taruva 77 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: anyone who knows Instagram he only sent it to his 78 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 3: close friends, so he didn't want this to go public. 79 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: He wasn't trying to put him on show. 80 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 4: To the public in the corners the Green Star Gus Star, 81 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 4: so he only wanted to his close friends in one 82 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 4: of his. 83 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 7: Now the catch to it is soon the River certainly 84 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 7: left Penrith for a better opportunity at the West Tigers. 85 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: Very different circumstances. 86 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 8: Well, he's done it though. 87 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 7: He left Penrith for a better dealtances, and I would 88 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 7: have thought that no Penrith players. 89 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: What's interesting about this, but this could prove quite pivotal 90 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: in what happens next with Lachlin And. 91 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: We'll probably touch on it a little bit later on. 92 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: You know what, the RLPA raise concerns over mental welfare. 93 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 3: How did the manager and the dad not see this coming? Now, 94 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 3: I'll probably elaborate a little bit more here. So that 95 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: post we just spoke about has now been taken to 96 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 3: the r l p A, who have now raised concerns 97 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: over mental health welfare treatment of Locking Galvin and we'll 98 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 3: look into it, and I'm assuming the NRL will. 99 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 2: How do we see this? 100 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 8: Well, it is what I've just explained. 101 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 7: I think it is borderline bullying in this circumstance, ostracizing 102 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 7: one of your fellow employees. 103 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 8: Let's put it this way. 104 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 7: If Jimmy jump Camps, I wouldn't start posting about him 105 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 7: taking money money money or likewise. 106 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 6: League At the same time, it's a tough game. 107 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 4: Through the super leagues, and that's all they spoke about. 108 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 4: That's all through my whole career, and they still speak 109 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 4: about it these days. The current playscages we played in 110 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 4: your era. So that's what That's the reason I turn 111 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 4: up the work. 112 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: Yep. 113 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 4: I love my job, but I'd turn up for money. 114 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 4: So that's just commonation. And with social media. You know 115 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 4: the best thing about social media, I got kids. 116 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 2: You can turn it off. You know, bullies. 117 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 4: When I went I had to face him every day. 118 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 2: You can just go sorry, Gordy, I'll come back to 119 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 2: you here on this, Dave. 120 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: Was the management and parents of Lachlan Gavin that naive 121 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 3: to think that the decision that they've made, at the 122 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 3: time they've made it, and the way that they've done it, 123 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 3: was not going to get a reaction like this from 124 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: not only his teammates, from the fans, the fans, from 125 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 3: the media. That this kid wasn't going to be put 126 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: under pressure, wasn't going to be ostracized, wasn't going to 127 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:47,119 Speaker 3: have to deal with some big issues and some big 128 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: backlash that would put him in a vulnerable position as 129 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 3: a human being in a professional sport that could impact 130 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 3: his mental health and put him in this position. 131 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 2: Now, it's okay to see back. 132 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 3: And point at the social media posts, right, and the 133 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 3: river took it too far. 134 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 2: I'll agree with that, right. 135 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 3: But to now I sit back and because let's remember 136 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 3: that the group around Galvin has I would say, agitate 137 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: for this, this move right, and this could be used 138 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 3: now as leverage to get him out, which I think 139 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 3: is exactly what's happening. 140 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 2: Now. 141 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 3: You can't tell me that they should they this isn't 142 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 3: the West Tiger's responsibility here now because they've done everything 143 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 3: they can put money on the table. 144 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: They haven't told him he can go elsewhere. 145 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 3: So the responsibility here for me, ladies on his management 146 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: and his parents. 147 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 8: Firstly, and answer your question absolutely, I. 148 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 7: Would think that the family absolutely knew there was a chance. 149 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: Of this of happening and they're okay with it. 150 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 8: Well, I don't know that, but I would. 151 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: Think you can blame anything. 152 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 8: They would be pretty. 153 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 7: Naive not to think that this would be coming. Secondly, 154 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 7: to say that the Tigers have no responsibility over how 155 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 7: their players behave to a decision that the club has made, 156 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 7: I disagree with. 157 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 8: They do have a responsibility. 158 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 7: As there as the as the management of that club 159 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 7: to keep their players in line and to not. 160 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 5: They overstfully, respectfully, they can't control. 161 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: That's modern. 162 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 5: But in the modern world, kids all communicate, and young 163 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 5: blakes and young girls they all communicate on the Instagram 164 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 5: and on the social media apps. Right, how did the 165 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 5: Tigers supposed to control that? Where I think the Galvin 166 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 5: camp have been naive, foolish and have also really brought 167 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 5: them left themselves up. 168 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 6: In a scrutiny. 169 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 5: Is they've pulled the pin out of a hand renade 170 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 5: with the way that they've handled this to go in 171 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 5: and front Benji Marshall, well, firstly front Shane Richardson and 172 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 5: tell Shane Richardson that they don't believe that Benji Marshall. 173 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 6: Benji Marshall has walked. 174 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 5: The exact road that Lockie Galvin is now traversing. He's 175 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 5: been the teenage superstar, He's been the hot shot out 176 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 5: of high school. He then went on to win premierships 177 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 5: for that club wearing the number six jumper personally, and 178 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 5: I've spoken to other retired champions who say the same thing. 179 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 5: They couldn't think of a better person to be trying 180 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 5: to help Locke navigate his way through the stage of 181 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 5: his career that he's at. And so it's naive to 182 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 5: think that they haven't put a target on him by 183 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 5: going into saying that. 184 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 6: And they knew full well that. 185 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 5: This was going to all blow up and become public. 186 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 6: They've pulled the pin out of the anger. 187 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 7: And we all know the West Tiger's called the meeting, Yes, 188 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 7: they called the meeting. Why to try to offer an 189 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 7: extension to Lochland Galvin. Why, well, exactly why he's not 190 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 7: off contract until the end of twenty twenty six. 191 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 6: We will hang on that. 192 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 8: We all know Kevin in mind. 193 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 7: He had asked for a release twelve months earlier, right 194 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 7: and said to you, I will convince you. Let's not 195 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 7: pretend that there wasn't issues with Lochland Galvin and Benji 196 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 7: Marshall going back twelve months, hence the request for the release. 197 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 8: At that time they. 198 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 7: Said, well, work with the Galvin and his family on 199 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 7: showing you that this is a club for you. 200 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 8: Why couldn't they just keep going this year? 201 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 2: Do you think they put the offer? 202 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 8: What couldn't they keeping with this? 203 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: Do you think they put there? 204 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 3: They put the offer to Lachlan Galvin and his management 205 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: because they had heard that he wasn't happy and he 206 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 3: was talking to other clubs. 207 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 8: Well, potentially bro because he asked for at least twelve 208 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 8: months ago. 209 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 2: But do you think that or not what I just 210 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: said potentially. 211 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 7: Absolutely, yeah, that's absolutely a chance because because they had 212 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 7: work to do to convince him to keep him at 213 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 7: the club twelve months ago. 214 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 3: So but everyone's putting this back on the Tigers for 215 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: putting the deal forward. But they've put the deal forward 216 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 3: to say he's six million dollars. Mate, if you want 217 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 3: to be a Tiger, you sign it. If not, you 218 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 3: go because we're here. 219 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 7: What about showing the kid that, to your point, they're 220 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 7: going pretty good ham Sex, that they're playing pretty well 221 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 7: at the moment, get to the finals, winning through the final. 222 00:09:54,920 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 3: Respectfully, I told you the response the kid, the parents 223 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: and the manager should have said the last two nights 224 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 3: he should have said, this has been a great offer 225 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 3: and we appreciate it. 226 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: Lee. 227 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, and get to the end of the season. 228 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 2: The club they felt. 229 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 3: The agitation the Tigers, so they had to make a move. 230 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 3: And the agitation is still happening, you know. And now 231 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 3: the agitation is turning into the ropa, and now the 232 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 3: agitation is turning into the social media post and using 233 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 3: that now. 234 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 2: The agitation and that's how I see it. 235 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 5: The agitation and the manipulation and the power play and 236 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 5: the attempt to get control over clubs is a disgrace 237 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 5: and it's Isaac Moses. He's got a long form line 238 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 5: of doing it. 239 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 2: You can go to. 240 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 5: Joseph SULEII when he was at South Sydney and he 241 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 5: want options get out clauses in his contract every year 242 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 5: to remain at the Bunnies all the way back in 243 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 5: twenty twenty. Way't Bennett just laughed, So I'm not giving 244 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 5: you that. So then he took him to their rivals, 245 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,359 Speaker 5: the Roosters. Nick Politis went out of his way to 246 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 5: help Isaac Moses, who was deregistered at the time at 247 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 5: one stage, get back into the game. Then he betray 248 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 5: and goes and takes him to rugby union. You can 249 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 5: go back to the twenty nine team Grand Final with 250 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 5: the canber Raiders. They're flying, one of the best stories 251 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 5: of the season. No one tipped them to make the 252 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 5: Grand Final or do anything. And John Bateman all of 253 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,599 Speaker 5: a sudden, as we're leading into Grand Final week, I 254 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 5: hang on, I've got a new manager and I've actually 255 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 5: got a little bit of a beef with my contract. 256 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 5: It's just it's all destabilizing, it's all about ego. 257 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 6: It really is hard to stomach. 258 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: Is any response to that day? 259 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 8: Again? 260 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 7: Boys, I don't see the issue. Why couldn't the Tigers 261 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 7: just wait? Show the kid the final series this year? 262 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 7: Show the kids? 263 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 2: Did you see the common denominator that there's one percent? 264 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 7: Right, there's a history there, there's no doubt, right, But 265 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 7: players fall out with coaches. 266 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 8: It happens only a few weeks ago, Francis Molo. 267 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 3: Fall out with teenagers, Lachlan Galn falling out with BENI. 268 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 8: We're masters, there's a spat with the coach. 269 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 9: We know that what is it, Well, we don't know 270 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 9: that it's playing widely reported. What is it then that 271 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 9: he doesn't believe in breaks Benji's Way club? 272 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 4: What don't but you know in saying that I went 273 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 4: up to the lab today and got stats and then 274 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 4: and then the excuse was he didn't think that it 275 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 4: was good for his game and he was going to 276 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 4: improve that. 277 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 8: So well, now I do feel like I'm on the rope. 278 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: I'm not what is this kid talking about? 279 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 4: And I'm thinking, well, if it's true, that's a great. 280 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 2: Excuse because a lot of kids would use it. But 281 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: his first. 282 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 4: Fifteen games to his last twelve games, there's try assist, 283 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 4: line breaker assists and kick meters. Well, he's improved and everything. Yes, 284 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 4: So I just thought like when he was doing I'm thinking, well, 285 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 4: if I was having problems, there was a Bradley Clyde 286 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 4: that I was ringing, there was a rod Ready, there 287 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 4: was a Steve rope. But there's An Andrew Johns and 288 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 4: Matthew Johns and Lorry Daily. There's all these guys that 289 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 4: he can ring that get advice off if he wants 290 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 4: to take his game to another level, because you get 291 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 4: a lot of advice. Everybody has, it's not just off 292 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 4: the cave. So I thought that was a bad excuse. 293 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 4: And then when I use that and just on that 294 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 4: bully and I want to go back to it. Right 295 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 4: the worst thing said this week was that you're a 296 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 4: shit coach out of all of it. If it's bullied 297 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 4: and all those things. And if there's a media post 298 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 4: or a social media post about me saying one team 299 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 4: and there's money, money, money, I would laugh at that. 300 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 4: If they're saying, mate, you're not good at your job. 301 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 4: Your shit. I don't think you're good enough. That's the 302 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 4: worst thing said this week. 303 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 3: Firstly, the lab was very impressive, and you back to that. 304 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 3: That's a very good point that you make right now, 305 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: too good, And let's bring it back to the decision 306 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 3: making process here, because it was reported, as you said, 307 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 3: that the players had made the call the last few days, 308 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 3: but it was actually Benji. 309 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 5: It was Benji, And look, I think that's an example 310 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 5: that Benji is clearly run on the show at the 311 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 5: West Tigers, and he went to his senior players, as 312 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 5: I'm sure a lot of coaches do. I'm sure even 313 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 5: Craig Bellamy and Wayne Bennett would do that. But he 314 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 5: went to the senior players and he said, this is 315 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 5: what I'm thinking, right, because the blake who I feel 316 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 5: for the mast in all this is actually Locke Galvin. 317 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 5: He's nineteen years old. I didn't know what day it 318 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 5: was when I was nineteen years old to have this 319 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 5: much pressure, right, and millions of dollars on the table 320 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 5: being offered, and then being manipulated and cajoled into saying 321 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 5: that you don't think that a blake can coach. But 322 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 5: Benji made the decision. He bounced it off the senior players. 323 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 5: They clearly supported it, and then that's how we've got 324 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 5: to where we are. 325 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 3: Was it in the best interest of the player for 326 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 3: Benji to drop him for this week? 327 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 5: I say yes because I think Dave that he was 328 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 5: going to be in for a federal reception from the 329 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 5: West Tigers supporters. I think he would have got booed 330 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 5: with every touch. It's different to daily Cherry Evans. He's 331 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 5: given manly fifteen years of great service. I think Lockie 332 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 5: was on a hide into nothing. 333 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, look I get that. I say sit him at 334 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 8: all together. 335 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 6: For the whole season. 336 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: I just can't play reserve, gread. 337 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 8: Not play at all. Take the week off, mate. 338 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 7: You saw how the Dragons handed the Francis Molo situation. 339 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 7: Francis had an issue with the coaching starts. To take 340 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 7: some time out, mate, go away right, It's resolved itself. 341 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 7: It resolved itself. We didn't have any of the drama 342 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 7: we've got to I gret it. Different circumstance, however, I 343 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 7: say sit the kid out this weekend. 344 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 8: The emotion, as we know, the emotion comes out of 345 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 8: these issues in the game all the time. 346 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 7: Take the emotion out of it, let it settle for 347 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 7: a week, then come back to it. 348 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 6: I get it. I get that position. 349 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 5: But at the same time Lockie arrived at training yesterday, 350 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 5: Benji spoke to him and said, you don't have to, 351 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 5: but if you want to speak to the group you can. 352 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 6: Locky agreed, and. 353 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 5: As you pointed out earlier, credit to him for having 354 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 5: the gumption. 355 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 6: To do that. 356 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 5: But then he actually said to the playing group. In essence, 357 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 5: the key points were boys. You do you and I'll 358 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 5: do me. I know there's big distractions at the moment, 359 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 5: but you do you and I'll do me. 360 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 6: Now, if I'm another one. 361 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 5: Of the West Tigers players, I'm sitting there ch you 362 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 5: and Broken Glass said. 363 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 2: It went down horribly and mentioned it last night. 364 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 3: And I spoke to some people inside the West Sidies 365 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 3: camp today and I reckon it was disaster. 366 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, So you're just different. 367 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 7: You just explained he's nineteen years yes, and that you 368 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 7: feel sorry for him, but you're happy for him to 369 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 7: stand up in front of a playing group and explain himself. 370 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 10: When well, we contend that that it happened, well he. 371 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 8: Was, well, I do you agree that a nine year 372 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 8: old should explain it? 373 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter that it was, it was. And he said, 374 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 2: I've got. 375 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 8: No I think. I think you buy the ticket, you 376 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 8: take the ride, you want a million bucks? This is 377 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 8: the game power, right, I've got no problem. 378 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 3: To you make your bed, you lie in it. Yeah, 379 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 3: this whole situation, you make your bed, you're lying it. 380 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, And there's not And has he asked for releases yet? 381 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 7: I mean, on this time around, has he requested the release? 382 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: Let's be honest, has. 383 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 7: He he's agitating request? 384 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: So you're going you're trying to be official all of 385 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 3: a sudden and say that as he as he asked 386 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 3: for a release. 387 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 2: What's going on, Dave? Well, can you not read between 388 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: the lines here? 389 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 8: What what's that? 390 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: He's not asking for a release, they're pushing for one. 391 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 8: They're making it happen d enough to be dropped the 392 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:18,719 Speaker 8: new South Wales up. 393 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: But they've got the r l. 394 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 8: P having to play NRL. 395 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 6: They've gone and got the RL per a involved straight away. 396 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 6: Isaac Moses is close with Clinton Newton. 397 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 5: Blind Freddie can see what's going on here right now 398 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 5: that they have told the Tiger. 399 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 6: Now they've told the. 400 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 5: If you're looking on me with a coach and so 401 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 5: you can't coach and I don't want to be here 402 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 5: and you're nineteen years old, how else is that going 403 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 5: to end other than you trying to get out of 404 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 5: the joint all right now? 405 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 3: This is an interest one to Jerome Leware going to 406 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 3: the club for premierships. 407 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: He's won at Penrith Panthers and he's. 408 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 3: Coming to a new system, new coach and he's had. 409 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 2: An immediate impact. 410 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 3: But how have we seen his role this year and 411 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 3: how has he handled this situation. 412 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 5: Well, i'd throw it back at you, Broth because you 413 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 5: are the number six jumper. But from an outside point 414 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 5: of view, one thing I've noticed watching Locke is how 415 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 5: much work he does throughout the game. He's on the 416 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 5: left side of field, he's on the right side of field, 417 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 5: then he's having. 418 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 6: To carry through the middle. 419 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 5: Whereas Jerome he looks he's not playing the same style 420 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 5: as he was at Penrith. 421 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 3: You know what, you watch the games this year and 422 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 3: it even stands out more now. You know, I'm watching 423 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 3: him thinking Jesus changed the way that he's playing. This 424 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 3: year's you know, like he's very controlled, he's kicking games, 425 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 3: been on point, his game management has been superb. So 426 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 3: he's actually put his ego aside derone this year for 427 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 3: Lochlan Galvin to play the way Lachland wants to play, 428 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 3: and that's what That's what builds so much emotion here 429 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 3: and this is why there's tension and this is why 430 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 3: the club is where it's at. We've got a full 431 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 3: time Premiership player going to a club and putting his 432 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 3: ego aside and playing a different style of footy for 433 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 3: a nine year old kid to keep him happy, right, 434 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 3: And you can see that because Lachlan Galvin's actually played 435 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 3: this year like Jerome did the Panthers. He's drifting around, 436 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 3: taking opportunities when he can, playing off the cup, making errors, 437 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 3: but coming up with big plays, which is normally Jerome. 438 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: Right. 439 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 3: Jerome's been the steady head. So he's actually gone, you 440 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 3: know what, team first mentality, team first mentality, whereas the 441 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 3: other kids have been the opposite. And that's been shown 442 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 3: by the reaction in all this. 443 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 2: So you know, like. 444 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 3: I give so much credit to Jerome, like Jerome's cops 445 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: so much over the years, and I think I think 446 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 3: he's sort of proven everyone wrong long before now, like 447 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 3: long before now. And that's why with that, with that 448 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 3: post the other day, I was okay with it because 449 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 3: he's earned the right. 450 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 2: You know, he's put the team, he has put his ego. 451 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 8: We will say this, and I'm going to come back 452 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 8: at you out. 453 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 7: He's got two clauses in his contract at the West Tigers, 454 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 7: so what so we can get out at. 455 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 8: The end of this year. 456 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: He doesn't want to get out. 457 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 8: He's shown so now he's staying five years. Absolutely well, 458 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 8: no one knows that. Well, he's got two clauses. 459 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 3: But evidence first. Okay, Then so you're saying he's not 460 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 3: putting the team first. 461 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 7: Hey, you're saying he start, you're speaking he's got two guys. 462 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 2: But you're insinuating he's going to walk out. 463 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 3: Well, he's declaring his action, showing you he's going to 464 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 3: walk out on that club in the world. 465 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: So what do you what do you just speculating? 466 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 8: I would hope that he takes the causes out of 467 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 8: his contract. 468 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: Do you think that he will? 469 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 8: If he's a team first player, he will. 470 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: Because he's putting the team first. Can't you see the 471 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 2: evidence of. 472 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 7: That as a footballer, But why would you put clauses 473 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 7: in your contract? 474 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 3: Because he's coming to. 475 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: Get him there? 476 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 7: They're coming off three spurs and someone and they committed, They. 477 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: Tried, They gave him six million round. 478 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 8: Take him to the finals, Take who to the finals? 479 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 10: Looking well, hold on, hold on through, keep him in first, 480 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 10: get to the finals, keep a player developing because he's leaving, 481 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 10: you go and put you're gonna put effort to somewhere 482 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 10: else because grass ain't greener with him. 483 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 6: You spotted it. 484 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 8: Then you're just playing straight to the managers releasing him. 485 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 6: No, No, I don't think that will I think that. 486 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 2: I think the. 487 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 4: Clubs, the West Tigers in this situation, right, they have 488 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 4: developed so and the fans have been through a lot. 489 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 4: The manager did it to Tedesco, Woods and all those 490 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 4: other guys, right, and now he's doing it again. I 491 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 4: think the game needs to stand up for one and 492 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 4: kids can't keep on doing I did it twenty years ago. 493 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 4: I paid the price right, and Dragon's had every right, 494 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 4: and they showed some spine. And I'd like to see 495 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 4: the clubs get back a little bit, just a little 496 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 4: bit more muscle. Couldn't and the managers don't have. 497 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 7: Something agree more with you by releasing him plays into 498 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 7: the to the to the play that we're talking about, right, 499 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 7: Keep him at the club and make the finals and 500 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 7: convinced one. 501 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 2: In reserve grade. 502 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 8: It doesn't prove anything. Sitting reserve grade, what does it do? 503 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 5: It? 504 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 7: Only it only coaching opportunity win win a lost record. 505 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: He doesn't like Benji? 506 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 5: How would you feel if you will Benji and he's 507 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 5: walked in into I don't think you're cann improve my football. 508 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 6: Do you want him in your team? 509 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 2: Then? 510 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 8: Probably not? 511 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 6: No, So that's going to be. 512 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 5: But I think Benji will put the team first. I 513 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 5: think he's back in reserve grade in the short term, right. 514 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 5: But if he goes back, performs and the Tigers need 515 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 5: him back in the side and he repairs things with 516 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 5: his teammates happened, there are a. 517 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 8: Better team with him in the side. 518 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, But we'll see on Monday how they react. I'm 519 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 3: looking forward to Monday. This is going to be a 520 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 3: cracker honestly, you know. I think it will build that 521 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: resilience in camaraderie in the team. I'm looking forward to 522 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 3: the response and I think time will tell with that. 523 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 3: But one thing that's for sure with Benji Marshall's coach 524 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,239 Speaker 3: and Shane Richardson is as the boss, they're not going 525 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 3: to just let him go for nothing. They don't need 526 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 3: the money. The money means nothing got to make. They 527 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 3: want to player in return. And what player are you 528 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 3: going to give the Tigers from Paramatta or ball the West? 529 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 2: The West million dollar player for a million dollar Honestly. 530 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 5: The West Tigers have been a laughing stock and a 531 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 5: doormat for two long Other clubs have just chair picked 532 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 5: their best talent and just walked. 533 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 6: All over him. 534 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 5: But to Riche's credit and to Benji's credit, they've shown 535 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 5: some fortitude here. They've saying that they've got a set 536 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 5: of stones. They're not going to be walked over. I 537 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 5: think that they I think that Loki will remain at 538 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 5: the club for the remainder of this year. Beyond that, 539 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 5: I'm not so certain. The other element of all of this, 540 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 5: and the whole Benji and Isaac Moses bust up, you 541 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 5: can trace it back at Concord to when John Bateman 542 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 5: left and also when David Klema left. They're both managed 543 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 5: by Isaac. Right, Bateman had a spectacular bust up with 544 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 5: Benji at training. You treat the kids like rock stars, 545 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 5: you treat the senior players like kids. He finished up splitting, 546 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 5: and then it was a similar what wasn't a similar 547 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 5: story with Clemma, But Klama was also forced. 548 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 6: Out of the joint. 549 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 5: Isaac got his nose out of the joint about that, 550 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 5: and I think this is part of a square. 551 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:50,479 Speaker 2: Up, all right. 552 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 3: We spoke about last night the Bulldogs Gus school. He's 553 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 3: admiration for Lockie Galvin, and we spoke about whether there 554 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 3: was a possibility that he could in there, and. 555 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 2: But over the last forty eight hours. 556 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 3: Do you think what's happened could have turned the Bulldogs 557 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: off and Gas off. 558 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,719 Speaker 2: Of signing Lachlan at the club or not. 559 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 7: Players want good players, Coaches want good players, and Lock 560 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 7: he's a talent, you know, there's no denying like going 561 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 7: forward like you'd have some reservations on how how much 562 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 7: maturity and maturation there is with lockey and whether it 563 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 7: can handle the spotlight that's going to be on him. 564 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 7: But that also, as I said earlier, that also comes 565 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 7: with the position that he plays and the money that 566 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 7: he's going to earn wherever he plays. 567 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 8: I don't I don't think so Okay. 568 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: Where does he fit in there? Like we again last 569 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 2: night we touched on it. 570 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 3: Didn't think it was the you know, in the halves 571 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 3: given the circumstances there with Burton and Sex them. 572 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 7: And Crichton, what any for us where Well, I just 573 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 7: you have to think about it, right, how do you 574 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 7: get Lochlan Galvin into the Bulldog side and and coming 575 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 7: through the ranks he played a fair bit of back 576 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 7: row and he's a big boy and nineteen years of 577 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 7: age still developing like a lock him and so therefore 578 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 7: Broth yeah, I even I know that for a fact 579 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 7: that Tim Sheens saw Lochland Galvin as a future Locks. 580 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 3: A great point you're making, because like we're trying to 581 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 3: fit him into this team, we're not. 582 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: Once we mentioned Lock. 583 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 3: I think about Lock, you know, and I look at 584 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 3: Lochland Galvin like on Isaiao, you know, with he got 585 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 3: Sexton and Burton and him playing thirteen like on is Ao, 586 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 3: and you've got the need to really disrupt much. A 587 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 3: lot of it would come down to his personality because 588 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 3: the Bulldogs are big on personality. 589 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 2: This is not a good look on Galvin. 590 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 3: What's happened here over the past forty eight hours, which 591 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 3: is what I was alluding to more so, is that 592 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 3: you know, they're big on culture and they're big on 593 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 3: someone fitting in no disruption. 594 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 2: So that's that's a that's a hurdle. 595 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 3: But the thirteen, Yeah, thirteen, But thirteen's they get paid better? 596 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 8: Say this? 597 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, a couple of things. 598 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 5: Firstly, with the Bulldogs have the salary cap space, because 599 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 5: let's be real, if it's not a million dollars, it's 600 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 5: going to be close to a million dollars. So I 601 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 5: would think they might have to do some juggling to 602 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 5: be able to fit him in, but. 603 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 3: Really just said it's all about development and he should 604 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 3: be looking at around the eight hundred thousand dollars. 605 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 6: Mark, right, You're right. 606 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 5: Look, I think the other really strong link from the 607 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,479 Speaker 5: Lachland Galvin camp with the Bulldogs is Luke Vella, one 608 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 5: of their assistants. He was his coach at Westfield Sports 609 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 5: High they won the schoolboy competition back in twenty twenty three. 610 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 5: Locke still talks to him on a regular basis. 611 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 6: So there is a very direct I think a lot of. 612 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 2: Noise around that. 613 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 3: Okay, now let's move on to the favorites the Paramount 614 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 3: of Eels. There are dollar ten apparently Lachlan Galvin, you know, 615 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 3: a big chance of going there. 616 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 2: And what I can't get my head. 617 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 3: Around here is is that development, development, development, And we've 618 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 3: got Lachlan Galvin a dollar ten favorite to go to 619 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 3: the Paramount of Eels, which, mind you, I see as 620 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 3: a great combination with Moses, probably the best. 621 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 2: Out of the options right now in the halves. 622 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: But it kind of contradicts the reason why he's leaving 623 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 3: the Tigers, doesn't it. 624 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 7: There's no doubt it flies in the face of what 625 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 7: we're talking about here, and as far as Lucky not 626 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 7: having tremendous faith in what the direction Benji's going. 627 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 8: And then you. 628 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 7: Throw in Jason Rowles, what how many games in six 629 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 7: weeks into his one and six six weeks into his 630 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 7: NRL career. Look, I think the key catches here is 631 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 7: Mitch Moses. You know, he's just there's a lot of 632 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 7: talk that. 633 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 8: He's a future coach. 634 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 7: Within himself and the tutelage that he would get off 635 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 7: mich Moses. 636 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 8: I think that's. 637 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 6: The key, and his Isaac's cousin. 638 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, there's that. 639 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 7: He's He's I grew up a Paramatta fan, came through 640 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 7: a part of their system. 641 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 6: He left Parrot. Didn't correct me if if I'm wrong. 642 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 6: Didn't he get the ships? 643 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 5: Didn't he get the ships at the Eels when he 644 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 5: was a younger black because he was told you're not 645 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 5: in our best third, am, and that was how he 646 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 5: ended up as a Campbellton Jine. 647 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, pathway was blocked. Things change hoops. 648 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 3: And Moses is a better Halves coach and mentor than 649 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 3: jerame Lew. 650 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 7: Well, yeah, if he ends up, if he ends up 651 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 7: at Parodies. 652 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: If they're a dollar ten, this is just amazing. 653 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 5: If they're a dollar ten, I might have to snip 654 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 5: both of you blakes, because I don't want to spend 655 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 5: my money on Paramar At a dollar ten. That seems 656 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 5: way too short at this point in time. 657 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: You blokes have been awesome. That was fun.