1 00:00:00,750 --> 00:00:03,330 Francis Bourgeois: People have said to me now, because of your videos, 2 00:00:03,330 --> 00:00:07,140 Francis Bourgeois: people actually who once bullied me are now saying that 3 00:00:07,890 --> 00:00:11,520 Francis Bourgeois: my passion is cool, and that's really powerful for me. 4 00:00:11,820 --> 00:00:14,910 Francis Bourgeois: Electronic music gets me going the same way that a train 5 00:00:14,910 --> 00:00:19,319 Francis Bourgeois: does. It doesn't feel like fame really, it feels like 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:20,849 Francis Bourgeois: a bit of a glitch in the Matrix. 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,090 Alex Legouix: This is Show On The Road, brought to you by 8 00:00:24,450 --> 00:00:28,049 Alex Legouix: Autotrader. We are driving famous faces on a personalized road 9 00:00:28,050 --> 00:00:31,530 Alex Legouix: trip, visiting the places that help shape them and hearing 10 00:00:31,530 --> 00:00:34,318 Alex Legouix: how the locations turn them into who they are today. 11 00:00:34,859 --> 00:00:38,190 Alex Legouix: We've matched each celebrity with a car chosen specifically for 12 00:00:38,190 --> 00:00:42,450 Alex Legouix: them. So, join me, Alex Legouix, as we get this 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,380 Alex Legouix: show on the road. Today's journey takes me through Nottingham, 14 00:00:46,380 --> 00:00:51,479 Alex Legouix: which was the university town of TikTok sensation, Francis Bourgeois. 15 00:00:51,870 --> 00:00:56,940 Alex Legouix: In 2021, Francis took social media by storm with his 16 00:00:56,940 --> 00:01:02,070 Alex Legouix: very charming and carefree trainspotting videos. But today we are 17 00:01:02,070 --> 00:01:05,819 Alex Legouix: swapping a few hundred wheels for just four. We're in 18 00:01:05,819 --> 00:01:11,309 Alex Legouix: the BMW Alpina B4, which is a very distinctive looking 19 00:01:11,309 --> 00:01:16,080 Alex Legouix: car that oozes luxury. It does nought to 62 in 3. 20 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,340 Alex Legouix: 7 seconds, so it's a pretty cool match for Francis, and 21 00:01:20,340 --> 00:01:23,099 Alex Legouix: I'm definitely looking forward to seeing what he thinks about 22 00:01:23,099 --> 00:01:30,869 Alex Legouix: it. Okay, so, I am driving around to see Francis, 23 00:01:30,870 --> 00:01:34,770 Alex Legouix: and he's actually got his back to us because being 24 00:01:34,830 --> 00:01:41,250 Alex Legouix: such a passionate car guru as well as trainspotter, he 25 00:01:41,250 --> 00:01:44,099 Alex Legouix: wants to work out what car it is just from 26 00:01:44,099 --> 00:01:47,490 Alex Legouix: the engine. So, that's quite a nice test, let's see if 27 00:01:47,490 --> 00:01:47,881 Alex Legouix: he can do it. 28 00:01:47,881 --> 00:01:59,610 Francis Bourgeois: I think I know. I think I know. Is it M4? 29 00:02:00,180 --> 00:02:01,469 Alex Legouix: Oh, very close. 30 00:02:01,470 --> 00:02:01,740 Francis Bourgeois: M3? 31 00:02:02,099 --> 00:02:02,551 Alex Legouix: Very close. 32 00:02:02,551 --> 00:02:02,552 Francis Bourgeois: Is it an Alpina? 33 00:02:02,552 --> 00:02:02,553 Alex Legouix: Yes. 34 00:02:02,553 --> 00:02:02,554 Francis Bourgeois: Woo. It's an Alpina. 35 00:02:02,554 --> 00:02:02,555 Alex Legouix: Which Alpina? 36 00:02:02,555 --> 00:02:03,780 Francis Bourgeois: Is it an Alpina B4? 37 00:02:03,780 --> 00:02:15,270 Alex Legouix: Yes. He's only gone and done it. 38 00:02:15,270 --> 00:02:15,510 Francis Bourgeois: This is wicked. 39 00:02:19,230 --> 00:02:20,610 Alex Legouix: So was it a good match? 40 00:02:20,669 --> 00:02:21,809 Francis Bourgeois: Fantastic match. 41 00:02:21,869 --> 00:02:22,079 Alex Legouix: Good. 42 00:02:22,980 --> 00:02:22,981 Francis Bourgeois: I'm a big Alpina fan. 43 00:02:22,981 --> 00:02:22,982 Alex Legouix: Yeah. 44 00:02:22,982 --> 00:02:27,779 Francis Bourgeois: But yeah, for lots of people who know my stuff, 45 00:02:27,780 --> 00:02:30,000 Francis Bourgeois: they know that I like the sounds of trains and the sounds of 46 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,230 Francis Bourgeois: the railway. In a similar way, I love the sounds 47 00:02:34,230 --> 00:02:38,579 Francis Bourgeois: of cars, and it taps into the same sort of 48 00:02:39,030 --> 00:02:41,339 Francis Bourgeois: joy that I get with the railway, to be honest. 49 00:02:41,729 --> 00:02:42,509 Alex Legouix: Amazing. 50 00:02:42,719 --> 00:02:44,939 Francis Bourgeois: I'm just going to set my seats, if that's all right? 51 00:02:44,999 --> 00:02:47,309 Alex Legouix: Make yourself comfortable, sir. All right. 52 00:02:47,309 --> 00:02:47,939 Francis Bourgeois: It's very comfy. 53 00:02:48,059 --> 00:02:51,569 Alex Legouix: Let the games begin. We are on our way to where? 54 00:02:51,809 --> 00:02:52,978 Francis Bourgeois: Ilkeston Station. 55 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:54,809 Alex Legouix: Right. Why are we going there? 56 00:02:54,869 --> 00:02:58,109 Francis Bourgeois: The area of Ilkeston was an area, when I was 57 00:02:58,109 --> 00:03:01,530 Francis Bourgeois: at uni and Nottingham, I frequented a lot because there's a lot of 58 00:03:01,530 --> 00:03:05,070 Francis Bourgeois: railway activity and it's near the site of the old 59 00:03:05,070 --> 00:03:08,940 Francis Bourgeois: Stanton Iron Works. But I used to visit with my 60 00:03:08,940 --> 00:03:12,959 Francis Bourgeois: friend because it had had an interesting rail link, and 61 00:03:13,139 --> 00:03:18,480 Francis Bourgeois: I've checked the schedule for the railway and I've seen 62 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,940 Francis Bourgeois: that there's a... Oh, that sounds brilliant, doesn't it? 63 00:03:22,380 --> 00:03:25,078 Alex Legouix: When did this passion start? 64 00:03:25,620 --> 00:03:29,849 Francis Bourgeois: I was really young, to be honest. I was absorbing 65 00:03:29,849 --> 00:03:35,670 Francis Bourgeois: my environment and knew in myself that what I loved 66 00:03:35,670 --> 00:03:39,570 Francis Bourgeois: was trains, just from the moment my memories were forming. 67 00:03:39,990 --> 00:03:41,520 Alex Legouix: What was Little Francis like? 68 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:48,330 Francis Bourgeois: Bubbly, running around, doing normal toddler stuff, but also wanting 69 00:03:48,330 --> 00:03:52,649 Francis Bourgeois: to look at trains and wanting to buy Hot Wheels 70 00:03:52,650 --> 00:03:57,450 Francis Bourgeois: cars, wanting to look at exhaust pipes, wanting to, when I 71 00:03:57,450 --> 00:04:01,260 Francis Bourgeois: was tall enough, look over the door into the window 72 00:04:01,260 --> 00:04:03,540 Francis Bourgeois: to look at the speedometer and see how fast the 73 00:04:03,540 --> 00:04:04,559 Francis Bourgeois: car could go. 74 00:04:04,830 --> 00:04:08,400 Alex Legouix: I imagine though that not all your friends were quite 75 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:09,480 Alex Legouix: on the same wavelength. 76 00:04:09,570 --> 00:04:10,860 Francis Bourgeois: No, not really. 77 00:04:11,190 --> 00:04:11,940 Alex Legouix: How was that? 78 00:04:12,390 --> 00:04:15,870 Francis Bourgeois: Okay, to be honest. When I was young young, I 79 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,390 Francis Bourgeois: was just happy being in my own world with my 80 00:04:18,390 --> 00:04:25,440 Francis Bourgeois: trains and my cars, and my essentially early days engineering interest. 81 00:04:25,860 --> 00:04:29,519 Francis Bourgeois: When I came through to secondary school and stuff, that's 82 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:35,430 Francis Bourgeois: when I didn't really feel like I had a place 83 00:04:35,670 --> 00:04:39,270 Francis Bourgeois: to express my passion, especially for the railway in my 84 00:04:39,389 --> 00:04:43,320 Francis Bourgeois: friendship groups and in school in general. That happily changed 85 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:51,000 Francis Bourgeois: going to uni because I was studying engineering and there 86 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,200 Francis Bourgeois: were people liked trains. I was like, wow. I met a friend called Luke, 87 00:04:55,350 --> 00:05:02,001 Francis Bourgeois: we went to places like Stanton Iron Works, Ilkeston, Bennerley viaduct , 88 00:05:01,500 --> 00:05:06,029 Francis Bourgeois: where we're going now, Toton, Attenborough Nature Reserve. And we'd 89 00:05:06,029 --> 00:05:08,820 Francis Bourgeois: be talking about trains in lectures, and we'd say, " Oh, should we 90 00:05:08,820 --> 00:05:12,120 Francis Bourgeois: go to Toton Yard?" "Oh yeah..." Start talking about the DB Class 91 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,840 Francis Bourgeois: 60s that are all lined up. And then one lecture, 92 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,229 Francis Bourgeois: someone that's sitting in front of us turned around and said, " 93 00:05:19,770 --> 00:05:23,730 Francis Bourgeois: Do you like trains?" We were like, " Yeah." He's like, " Oh sweet. I 94 00:05:23,730 --> 00:05:27,029 Francis Bourgeois: heard you talking about Toton. Yeah, it's pretty insane what 95 00:05:27,029 --> 00:05:30,450 Francis Bourgeois: they got going on in Toton." And there you go, just 96 00:05:30,450 --> 00:05:31,830 Francis Bourgeois: found another train nut. 97 00:05:32,580 --> 00:05:32,971 Alex Legouix: That's really nice. 98 00:05:32,971 --> 00:05:42,119 Francis Bourgeois: That was lovely. I think we're going to be seeing a 99 00:05:42,119 --> 00:05:45,750 Francis Bourgeois: very rare Class 50, that should be coming through. 100 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,529 Alex Legouix: So, what's going on for you right now, as we 101 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,360 Alex Legouix: come close to seeing- 102 00:05:51,630 --> 00:05:51,810 Francis Bourgeois: The 0050. 103 00:05:51,810 --> 00:05:55,438 Alex Legouix: 50 0050. Okay, so that is the name of the train. 104 00:05:55,439 --> 00:05:59,669 Francis Bourgeois: It does actually have a name, I think it's called Furious. 105 00:05:59,789 --> 00:06:00,089 Alex Legouix: Oh, okay. 106 00:06:00,089 --> 00:06:03,480 Francis Bourgeois: Which is a bloody brilliant name for it, because it sounds furious when it 107 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:03,750 Francis Bourgeois: goes by. 108 00:06:03,750 --> 00:06:05,370 Alex Legouix: What does it sound like? Can you do the noise 109 00:06:05,370 --> 00:06:05,729 Alex Legouix: for me? 110 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:12,390 Francis Bourgeois: So it has more of a... Instead of a... It's 111 00:06:12,390 --> 00:06:19,500 Francis Bourgeois: more of a... It has more of an odd firing order. So 112 00:06:19,500 --> 00:06:22,230 Francis Bourgeois: yeah, this is passenger pickup and drop off point, could 113 00:06:22,230 --> 00:06:24,061 Francis Bourgeois: be a good place to plunk this Alpina. 114 00:06:24,061 --> 00:06:25,140 Alex Legouix: Yeah. Okay. Pop in here then. What other bits of lingo do I need to know? 115 00:06:30,690 --> 00:06:31,320 Francis Bourgeois: Thrash. 116 00:06:31,500 --> 00:06:32,160 Alex Legouix: Thrash. 117 00:06:33,059 --> 00:06:36,810 Francis Bourgeois: When the diesel engine's giving it the full beans, and the 118 00:06:36,810 --> 00:06:40,020 Francis Bourgeois: driver's just gone like that with the accelerator, the handle 119 00:06:40,020 --> 00:06:43,080 Francis Bourgeois: being pulled all the way to full power, the engine 120 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,410 Francis Bourgeois: will basically fire into life, and then when you hear 121 00:06:46,410 --> 00:06:49,229 Francis Bourgeois: it go by and it's going... That's thrash. 122 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,649 Alex Legouix: What shall I say? Is there something specific that we 123 00:06:52,650 --> 00:06:54,659 Alex Legouix: need to say when it comes past? 124 00:06:55,230 --> 00:06:59,969 Francis Bourgeois: If something is overwhelmingly brilliant, then I usually shout hell fire. 125 00:06:59,969 --> 00:07:01,169 Alex Legouix: Hell fire. 126 00:07:01,529 --> 00:07:03,450 Francis Bourgeois: But it has to be said with a huge amount 127 00:07:03,450 --> 00:07:03,510 Francis Bourgeois: of conviction. 128 00:07:03,511 --> 00:07:04,170 Alex Legouix: Okay. 129 00:07:04,170 --> 00:07:04,320 Francis Bourgeois: So, hell fire. 130 00:07:06,570 --> 00:07:07,740 Alex Legouix: Okay, I can do this. 131 00:07:07,830 --> 00:07:10,920 Francis Bourgeois: If it's coasting, so if it's not thrashing, I won't 132 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,080 Francis Bourgeois: say hell fire. Even if it is thrashing, I might 133 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,690 Francis Bourgeois: not say it because I only say it when it's 134 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:24,659 Francis Bourgeois: really required. So currently it's at Beeston South Junction, which 135 00:07:24,660 --> 00:07:27,180 Francis Bourgeois: is where I used to live when I was in Nottingham. 136 00:07:32,610 --> 00:07:33,929 Alex Legouix: Where do we need to stand then for funzies? 137 00:07:34,170 --> 00:07:37,860 Francis Bourgeois: So, I'd suggest we go a bit further down, because- 138 00:07:38,429 --> 00:07:40,260 Alex Legouix: I was going to say, when are you going to put your head cam on? 139 00:07:43,590 --> 00:07:44,881 Francis Bourgeois: This is when I get a bit nervous. 140 00:07:44,881 --> 00:07:44,882 Alex Legouix: Yeah, yeah, I can see that. 141 00:07:44,882 --> 00:07:49,110 Francis Bourgeois: Okay. Yeah, it's the 50. 142 00:07:49,110 --> 00:07:49,261 Alex Legouix: Can you see it? 143 00:07:49,261 --> 00:07:49,261 Francis Bourgeois: Yeah, be careful- 144 00:07:49,261 --> 00:07:49,262 Alex Legouix: Yes. 145 00:07:49,262 --> 00:07:52,830 Francis Bourgeois: ...move behind the yellow line. It is the 50 luckily, and 146 00:07:52,830 --> 00:07:55,290 Francis Bourgeois: you should start to hear it soon. Go on, please thrash. 147 00:07:55,890 --> 00:07:56,371 Alex Legouix: It's quite fast. 148 00:07:56,371 --> 00:08:03,870 Francis Bourgeois: Yeah. Yeah, I think it's on. Thank you. 149 00:08:03,870 --> 00:08:04,530 Alex Legouix: Hell fire. 150 00:08:05,550 --> 00:08:07,381 Francis Bourgeois: That wasn't quite hell fire. 151 00:08:07,381 --> 00:08:07,711 Alex Legouix: Wasn't quite hell fire. Oh, okay. 152 00:08:07,711 --> 00:08:07,711 Francis Bourgeois: See? 153 00:08:07,711 --> 00:08:11,040 Alex Legouix: Oh, it smells good. 154 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:11,580 Francis Bourgeois: Yeah. 155 00:08:11,790 --> 00:08:13,170 Alex Legouix: I've broken my trainspotting virginity. 156 00:08:13,170 --> 00:08:20,639 Francis Bourgeois: Yeah, you have. It was a real demonstration I think, of what it's 157 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:25,919 Francis Bourgeois: like to be a railway enthusiasts, in terms of the feelings. 158 00:08:29,249 --> 00:08:33,690 Alex Legouix: Yes. Your foray into the crazy world of social media 159 00:08:33,690 --> 00:08:36,270 Alex Legouix: can't have been... Well, it must have been quite a 160 00:08:36,330 --> 00:08:37,590 Alex Legouix: dynamic change. 161 00:08:38,340 --> 00:08:42,540 Francis Bourgeois: Yeah, I pretty much didn't have a clue what was 162 00:08:42,540 --> 00:08:49,590 Francis Bourgeois: going on. I was just creating... I wanted this creative 163 00:08:49,590 --> 00:08:55,889 Francis Bourgeois: outlet and made that for myself, and just continue focusing 164 00:08:55,889 --> 00:08:58,949 Francis Bourgeois: on my degree whilst going out, seeing trains, and then 165 00:08:58,949 --> 00:09:04,860 Francis Bourgeois: just happily editing it together and showing people. And it 166 00:09:04,860 --> 00:09:10,199 Francis Bourgeois: was a real snowball effect, and there were points where my 167 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:18,539 Francis Bourgeois: learned school inhibitions, when it came to my passion, almost wanted 168 00:09:18,539 --> 00:09:23,069 Francis Bourgeois: to kick back in again. You're showing 20, 000 people that 169 00:09:23,069 --> 00:09:26,399 Francis Bourgeois: you like trains, are you sure? But I think after 170 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:27,328 Francis Bourgeois: seeing that... Oh my word. 171 00:09:31,259 --> 00:09:35,850 Alex Legouix: So, currently, we've slowed right down to a stop because there is 172 00:09:36,540 --> 00:09:42,150 Alex Legouix: a mobility scooter, well, being driven, obviously. 173 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:43,951 Francis Bourgeois: On the road. 174 00:09:43,951 --> 00:09:47,099 Alex Legouix: On the road, with enormous lorry behind it, and a trail of 175 00:09:47,099 --> 00:09:51,900 Alex Legouix: traffic. So you just said there about, that realization that there 176 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:57,330 Alex Legouix: were 20,000 people that had looked at your video. I 177 00:09:57,330 --> 00:09:59,730 Alex Legouix: guess there was a turning point then when you realized 178 00:09:59,730 --> 00:10:06,718 Alex Legouix: that it was not just a bedroom video fun situation 179 00:10:06,719 --> 00:10:09,029 Alex Legouix: for you and your mates... Or it was your brother, 180 00:10:09,030 --> 00:10:09,449 Alex Legouix: wasn't it? 181 00:10:09,570 --> 00:10:09,870 Francis Bourgeois: Yeah, yeah. 182 00:10:09,870 --> 00:10:11,339 Alex Legouix: Initially, that was involved? 183 00:10:11,969 --> 00:10:16,890 Francis Bourgeois: Well, it remained that way up until about 250,000 followers 184 00:10:17,340 --> 00:10:23,520 Francis Bourgeois: because it didn't feel real, it was like I was playing a game and I was randomly accumulating all 185 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,470 Francis Bourgeois: of these followers. 186 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,350 Alex Legouix: Right. Hang on, take me back. It started off as you and 187 00:10:28,350 --> 00:10:32,250 Alex Legouix: your brother, what sparked the idea of picking up a 188 00:10:32,250 --> 00:10:33,750 Alex Legouix: camera and doing it that way? 189 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,080 Francis Bourgeois: So, essentially, it was locked down, I was with my 190 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,870 Francis Bourgeois: brother... Well, I got a camcorder when I was younger and 191 00:10:39,870 --> 00:10:44,309 Francis Bourgeois: we made videos and this kind of creative relationship has 192 00:10:44,370 --> 00:10:49,110 Francis Bourgeois: always existed. I've always played with Ben, and always created 193 00:10:49,110 --> 00:10:52,380 Francis Bourgeois: with Ben, so when it came to lockdown, we were together 194 00:10:52,380 --> 00:10:56,100 Francis Bourgeois: again and we basically had time on our hands and 195 00:10:56,340 --> 00:11:00,718 Francis Bourgeois: a freaky new kind of environment where nothing was going 196 00:11:00,719 --> 00:11:03,780 Francis Bourgeois: on, but a whole load was going on around the world, and 197 00:11:03,780 --> 00:11:09,030 Francis Bourgeois: everyone had to adapt to change. And fortunately, we were 198 00:11:09,210 --> 00:11:12,600 Francis Bourgeois: in a place in the countryside where, when we had 199 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,570 Francis Bourgeois: our one- hour walk, I could go to the railway 200 00:11:15,570 --> 00:11:18,718 Francis Bourgeois: bridge and wave at the freight trains. It became a 201 00:11:18,719 --> 00:11:24,569 Francis Bourgeois: ritual. And I had this Instagram account called Screaming Valenta, 202 00:11:25,199 --> 00:11:29,280 Francis Bourgeois: which is named after my favorite railway orientated engine. And 203 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,590 Francis Bourgeois: I was doing an update each day and I was 204 00:11:31,590 --> 00:11:36,209 Francis Bourgeois: doing a tally of passenger train drivers versus freight train 205 00:11:36,210 --> 00:11:42,000 Francis Bourgeois: drivers, which are most likely to give a tone. And I loved it, and I realized I was 206 00:11:42,420 --> 00:11:46,500 Francis Bourgeois: truly reconnecting with my passion for the railway that had 207 00:11:47,250 --> 00:11:48,208 Francis Bourgeois: laid dormant. 208 00:11:48,420 --> 00:11:50,790 Alex Legouix: And laid dormant because you felt like you had to 209 00:11:51,719 --> 00:11:52,199 Alex Legouix: hide it? 210 00:11:52,290 --> 00:11:56,218 Francis Bourgeois: Yeah, during school, certainly. But when it came to university, 211 00:11:56,549 --> 00:11:58,410 Francis Bourgeois: I had that year and a half when it was 212 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,580 Francis Bourgeois: a proper transitory period, where I went from keeping things 213 00:12:02,580 --> 00:12:05,341 Francis Bourgeois: in to really letting them out. So that- 214 00:12:05,341 --> 00:12:07,980 Alex Legouix: How did it manifest when you were at school, keeping 215 00:12:07,980 --> 00:12:10,710 Alex Legouix: it in? Because that's quite a difficult thing to contain. 216 00:12:10,770 --> 00:12:15,840 Francis Bourgeois: Well, essentially, I didn't talk to people about trains and 217 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:21,630 Francis Bourgeois: I just conformed to how people were in school in 218 00:12:21,630 --> 00:12:23,968 Francis Bourgeois: general. And I think that's the case for so many 219 00:12:23,970 --> 00:12:26,399 Francis Bourgeois: people that go to school, everywhere, it's just a form 220 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,750 Francis Bourgeois: of social survival. But after school, I used to love 221 00:12:30,750 --> 00:12:34,769 Francis Bourgeois: going on my iPad and just watching car videos, train videos, 222 00:12:35,639 --> 00:12:35,850 Francis Bourgeois: and that would come- 223 00:12:35,850 --> 00:12:35,940 Alex Legouix: And it's sad. It's sad to hear. 224 00:12:38,460 --> 00:12:41,218 Francis Bourgeois: Yeah, but at the time it felt like it was 225 00:12:41,429 --> 00:12:46,078 Francis Bourgeois: the right progression into teenagehood and leaving behind what I 226 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,699 Francis Bourgeois: perceived at the time to be my childhood hobby. And 227 00:12:51,539 --> 00:12:55,140 Francis Bourgeois: I had this vast model railway that ended up being 228 00:12:55,170 --> 00:12:59,699 Francis Bourgeois: put on eBay. I didn't really make it public that 229 00:12:59,700 --> 00:13:07,858 Francis Bourgeois: I was a railway enthusiast, however, cars are more universally appreciated. 230 00:13:11,939 --> 00:13:15,750 Alex Legouix: So, one thing we haven't spoken about at all is 231 00:13:15,870 --> 00:13:19,080 Alex Legouix: your headset. Where did this idea come about? 232 00:13:19,890 --> 00:13:23,460 Francis Bourgeois: Well, I wanted to firstly show people how the railway 233 00:13:23,460 --> 00:13:26,608 Francis Bourgeois: makes me feel. And I just thought, well, I can just do a 234 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,650 Francis Bourgeois: selfie and show people the train going by. And I didn't feel 235 00:13:31,650 --> 00:13:33,210 Francis Bourgeois: like I was in the moment when I was doing 236 00:13:33,210 --> 00:13:36,180 Francis Bourgeois: it. So I thought back to when I was younger 237 00:13:36,450 --> 00:13:40,530 Francis Bourgeois: and I was experimenting with my GoPro and stuff, I filmed 238 00:13:40,530 --> 00:13:43,980 Francis Bourgeois: my face whilst on the trampoline, having a helmet camera 239 00:13:44,370 --> 00:13:48,299 Francis Bourgeois: flipped around. And then when I was thinking about solutions 240 00:13:48,299 --> 00:13:53,700 Francis Bourgeois: to filming my face whilst being in the moment, I remembered this 241 00:13:53,730 --> 00:13:57,630 Francis Bourgeois: GoPro angle and then I experimented and the rest is 242 00:13:57,630 --> 00:13:58,470 Francis Bourgeois: history, really. 243 00:13:59,130 --> 00:14:03,120 Alex Legouix: I can't help but notice when you are talking, you have 244 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:04,000 Alex Legouix: the world's largest smile- 245 00:14:04,001 --> 00:14:04,002 Francis Bourgeois: thank you. 246 00:14:04,002 --> 00:14:08,699 Alex Legouix: ... but also I can really see your genuine passion. 247 00:14:09,900 --> 00:14:14,220 Alex Legouix: I am sure you are tired of answering this question, 248 00:14:14,460 --> 00:14:18,059 Alex Legouix: but how do you cope with the backlash of it 249 00:14:18,059 --> 00:14:19,560 Alex Legouix: not being a genuine passion? 250 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:31,380 Francis Bourgeois: Well, when these allegations were first arising of the train guy, Francis, not 251 00:14:31,380 --> 00:14:38,219 Francis Bourgeois: being a real person, or someone who is faking their 252 00:14:38,250 --> 00:14:43,140 Francis Bourgeois: hobby, it was hurtful because I did have, in putting 253 00:14:43,170 --> 00:14:48,120 Francis Bourgeois: myself out there and showing people my passion, it was 254 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,270 Francis Bourgeois: a step forward for me, quite a few steps forward. 255 00:14:51,330 --> 00:14:54,630 Francis Bourgeois: And then for all of this to come at me 256 00:14:54,630 --> 00:14:57,780 Francis Bourgeois: like a pack of dogs, it was a sad time 257 00:14:57,780 --> 00:15:03,450 Francis Bourgeois: because I'm not someone who likes confrontation or negative situations, 258 00:15:03,450 --> 00:15:05,820 Francis Bourgeois: and will do a lot to try and avoid them. 259 00:15:06,540 --> 00:15:11,760 Francis Bourgeois: So, it was a difficult time, but I addressed it 260 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,389 Francis Bourgeois: with a video, just saying, well, you've seen pictures of 261 00:15:15,389 --> 00:15:19,980 Francis Bourgeois: me where I have a shaved head and wearing clothes that you 262 00:15:19,980 --> 00:15:24,180 Francis Bourgeois: don't associate with me now, but let me take you 263 00:15:24,180 --> 00:15:28,439 Francis Bourgeois: to that time and I can show you exactly what my progression 264 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,120 Francis Bourgeois: in life is from then to now. And with that, 265 00:15:33,509 --> 00:15:39,060 Francis Bourgeois: people saw that these allegations based on the fact that 266 00:15:39,060 --> 00:15:41,550 Francis Bourgeois: I had a different appearance a couple of years ago, 267 00:15:41,550 --> 00:15:43,800 Francis Bourgeois: were actually just quite ridiculous. 268 00:15:44,130 --> 00:15:48,240 Alex Legouix: And didn't we all? I think that potentially the backlash 269 00:15:48,270 --> 00:15:50,759 Alex Legouix: is from the people who don't have the courage to 270 00:15:50,759 --> 00:15:52,680 Alex Legouix: take off the mask in the way that you have. 271 00:15:53,219 --> 00:15:58,560 Francis Bourgeois: Yeah, quite possibly. But nowadays, I still get people saying, 272 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,860 Francis Bourgeois: oh, why don't people realize this guy's just an actor. 273 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,590 Francis Bourgeois: Oh, why don't people realize this guy's a fraud, kind 274 00:16:04,590 --> 00:16:07,830 Francis Bourgeois: of thing. I see it and I just think, well, I'm 275 00:16:07,830 --> 00:16:12,870 Francis Bourgeois: happy being myself, being a railway enthusiast, and I'm happy 276 00:16:12,870 --> 00:16:16,230 Francis Bourgeois: with the fact that I can make so many people happy just 277 00:16:16,230 --> 00:16:20,730 Francis Bourgeois: by sharing my passion, and actually the energy that I'm 278 00:16:20,730 --> 00:16:26,549 Francis Bourgeois: seeing from my videos is massively positive and that's what 279 00:16:26,549 --> 00:16:27,629 Francis Bourgeois: I'm happy to focus on. 280 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,530 Alex Legouix: I sense that it all makes you feel quite emotional? 281 00:16:32,250 --> 00:16:41,640 Francis Bourgeois: Yeah, I'm naturally a very emotional person, both expressing it 282 00:16:41,730 --> 00:16:47,970 Francis Bourgeois: in happiness in my videos and behind the cameras, sometimes 283 00:16:48,209 --> 00:16:53,550 Francis Bourgeois: totally the opposite. And I think it also makes people 284 00:16:53,550 --> 00:16:55,470 Francis Bourgeois: think when they see the videos, how is this guy so 285 00:16:55,470 --> 00:16:58,679 Francis Bourgeois: happy all the time? This can't be real. Well, I'm 286 00:16:58,679 --> 00:17:01,530 Francis Bourgeois: not happy all the time, I'm just showing the times 287 00:17:01,530 --> 00:17:02,010 Francis Bourgeois: when I am. 288 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,468 Alex Legouix: Yeah. What do your coping methods look like? 289 00:17:05,070 --> 00:17:07,830 Francis Bourgeois: Going home, being with my mum and dad, stroking my 290 00:17:07,830 --> 00:17:12,570 Francis Bourgeois: cat, Smudge, being with my mum and dad's new dog 291 00:17:12,570 --> 00:17:16,620 Francis Bourgeois: called Wolfstan, who is very, very happy all the time. 292 00:17:17,430 --> 00:17:20,428 Francis Bourgeois: And it gets so excited that when he wiggles his 293 00:17:20,429 --> 00:17:24,780 Francis Bourgeois: tail, the axis of movement is actually the center of 294 00:17:24,780 --> 00:17:29,250 Francis Bourgeois: his spine, not his tail. So, he ends up being 295 00:17:30,810 --> 00:17:34,500 Francis Bourgeois: a slinky, where his tail is actually hitting himself in 296 00:17:34,500 --> 00:17:39,869 Francis Bourgeois: the face, and going back and being with that energy 297 00:17:39,869 --> 00:17:44,100 Francis Bourgeois: is very relaxing, takes me back to basics. Also, being 298 00:17:44,100 --> 00:17:49,410 Francis Bourgeois: with my girlfriend, relaxing with her, but just being with 299 00:17:49,410 --> 00:17:53,070 Francis Bourgeois: myself as well. I don't do it often enough, but 300 00:17:53,070 --> 00:17:59,579 Francis Bourgeois: just taking time to process and think and really meditate, 301 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,830 Francis Bourgeois: because a lot of the time my mind is going, 302 00:18:01,950 --> 00:18:04,200 Francis Bourgeois: oh, what about that idea? Oh, what's running here? What 303 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:08,520 Francis Bourgeois: train's going on? I want to do some research on 304 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:14,070 Francis Bourgeois: this random bridge, but that's a coping mechanism I'm still 305 00:18:14,369 --> 00:18:17,398 Francis Bourgeois: learning to really integrate into my life. 306 00:18:17,730 --> 00:18:20,879 Alex Legouix: Do you worry about the impact it has on the people around 307 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:21,178 Alex Legouix: you as well? 308 00:18:21,180 --> 00:18:26,668 Francis Bourgeois: Well, I don't really feel like it's had a huge 309 00:18:26,670 --> 00:18:30,540 Francis Bourgeois: amount of an effect, apart from on my parents because 310 00:18:31,349 --> 00:18:34,709 Francis Bourgeois: they're the ones who are caring for me the most. 311 00:18:34,799 --> 00:18:40,200 Francis Bourgeois: And also my girlfriend too. And I think their emotions 312 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,240 Francis Bourgeois: are also tangled in it, in one way or another. 313 00:18:42,780 --> 00:18:48,420 Francis Bourgeois: Especially Amy, my girlfriend, because she experiences going out with 314 00:18:48,420 --> 00:18:50,638 Francis Bourgeois: me and people bumping into me, et cetera. 315 00:18:51,059 --> 00:18:53,998 Alex Legouix: And she's known you for a long time, as we'll 316 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,148 Alex Legouix: come onto. She's known you as Luke, so she's known 317 00:18:57,150 --> 00:19:00,928 Alex Legouix: you pre- TikTok sensation and through it all. 318 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:08,640 Francis Bourgeois: Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's been incredibly supportive. Yeah, when she was 319 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,600 Francis Bourgeois: getting to know me, she didn't know that I was going to make 320 00:19:12,630 --> 00:19:21,388 Francis Bourgeois: a TikTok account, so I really thank her for being so supportive, really. 321 00:19:21,989 --> 00:19:23,039 Alex Legouix: Would you change it? 322 00:19:23,819 --> 00:19:30,060 Francis Bourgeois: I would not change it. But I think when I set up my account, 323 00:19:30,690 --> 00:19:36,148 Francis Bourgeois: my original reasons for using the pseudonym Francis Bourgeois were 324 00:19:36,630 --> 00:19:39,928 Francis Bourgeois: to... I was basically applying for jobs in the engineering 325 00:19:39,929 --> 00:19:45,059 Francis Bourgeois: industry, so I wanted to have a creative outlet that 326 00:19:45,059 --> 00:19:49,198 Francis Bourgeois: wasn't really going to be touched by my fears of 327 00:19:49,199 --> 00:19:54,510 Francis Bourgeois: future employers seeing my videos. I wanted to have my professional side 328 00:19:54,990 --> 00:20:00,959 Francis Bourgeois: slightly separate. And also, I wanted to have protection from 329 00:20:01,049 --> 00:20:05,129 Francis Bourgeois: people that know me and know me through school. And 330 00:20:05,190 --> 00:20:10,980 Francis Bourgeois: in using that pseudonym, I was able to have that protection, 331 00:20:11,609 --> 00:20:17,490 Francis Bourgeois: and essentially, the reasons for using it... And that eventually 332 00:20:17,490 --> 00:20:22,560 Francis Bourgeois: became completely inept, because the engineering company that I ended up 333 00:20:22,830 --> 00:20:27,000 Francis Bourgeois: working at, everyone knew about my videos, and everyone at 334 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,430 Francis Bourgeois: school had found out about them one way or another. 335 00:20:29,430 --> 00:20:33,240 Francis Bourgeois: So, in a way, the pseudonym and using a different 336 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:38,280 Francis Bourgeois: name is, the purpose of it, has become redundant. So 337 00:20:38,309 --> 00:20:41,969 Francis Bourgeois: if I were to go back and do it again with the knowledge of how things 338 00:20:41,969 --> 00:20:46,619 Francis Bourgeois: would progress, I wouldn't really feel as much of a need 339 00:20:46,619 --> 00:20:52,138 Francis Bourgeois: to use a pseudonym. However, I like the name, and 340 00:20:52,138 --> 00:20:57,208 Francis Bourgeois: who knows? Maybe it's had an effect on how I've 341 00:20:58,020 --> 00:21:06,060 Francis Bourgeois: developed, that I'm not completely aware of, so I wouldn't touch anything in the process. 342 00:21:07,020 --> 00:21:13,888 Alex Legouix: The child you, that had to wear a mask to 343 00:21:13,888 --> 00:21:17,908 Alex Legouix: a degree, through your school years, what would you say 344 00:21:17,910 --> 00:21:19,320 Alex Legouix: to that child you know? 345 00:21:19,980 --> 00:21:24,540 Francis Bourgeois: Trains are awesome, trains are cool, and don't let anyone 346 00:21:24,540 --> 00:21:30,658 Francis Bourgeois: tell you otherwise. And that's what makes you cool, being 347 00:21:30,660 --> 00:21:35,609 Francis Bourgeois: different and having a unique hobby. And actually, whenever I 348 00:21:35,609 --> 00:21:39,600 Francis Bourgeois: meet someone who's at school, who's a railway enthusiast, just 349 00:21:40,590 --> 00:21:45,180 Francis Bourgeois: a platform or wherever, I'll say to them, don't forget, 350 00:21:45,570 --> 00:21:47,849 Francis Bourgeois: trains are cool, and I know you might get a 351 00:21:47,849 --> 00:21:51,779 Francis Bourgeois: hassle from school, et cetera, but please remember that. And 352 00:21:52,199 --> 00:21:54,930 Francis Bourgeois: people have said to me now, because of your videos... 353 00:21:54,930 --> 00:21:59,220 Francis Bourgeois: People actually who once bullied me are now saying that my 354 00:21:59,790 --> 00:22:03,718 Francis Bourgeois: passion is cool. And that's really powerful for me because 355 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,509 Francis Bourgeois: I'm helping someone in a position that I was once 356 00:22:06,509 --> 00:22:09,570 Francis Bourgeois: in. And I've even written it in my book, in 357 00:22:09,570 --> 00:22:10,290 Francis Bourgeois: the prologue. 358 00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:20,369 Alex Legouix: So this is the Attenborough Nature Reserve. What does this 359 00:22:20,369 --> 00:22:21,269 Alex Legouix: place mean to you? 360 00:22:21,509 --> 00:22:23,399 Francis Bourgeois: Attenborough Nature Reserve wow, listen to the birds , you can listen to the birds. 361 00:22:23,399 --> 00:22:29,698 Alex Legouix: You are a very senses driven person, I've noticed. And you picked 362 00:22:29,699 --> 00:22:33,540 Alex Legouix: up on the geese flying over earlier, and obviously now 363 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:39,090 Alex Legouix: listening to the sound of the birds. What does it 364 00:22:39,090 --> 00:22:39,840 Alex Legouix: do for you? 365 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:45,059 Francis Bourgeois: It taps into my feelings. So, I can close my 366 00:22:45,059 --> 00:22:50,158 Francis Bourgeois: eyes now and aside from that gorgeous straight- six engine, 367 00:22:51,689 --> 00:22:57,448 Francis Bourgeois: I can hear birds and stillness. And it makes me feel calm and 368 00:22:57,450 --> 00:23:01,138 Francis Bourgeois: happy and reminds me of being with my family, being 369 00:23:01,138 --> 00:23:05,398 Francis Bourgeois: with my friends. And when I was studying at uni, 370 00:23:05,820 --> 00:23:09,480 Francis Bourgeois: I'd come here every so often and I wouldn't really 371 00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:13,200 Francis Bourgeois: come here for the nature reserve- y side of things, 372 00:23:13,530 --> 00:23:16,260 Francis Bourgeois: more to do with the fact that the railway runs 373 00:23:16,260 --> 00:23:19,708 Francis Bourgeois: through it. But, whilst waiting for the trains, it was 374 00:23:20,460 --> 00:23:23,789 Francis Bourgeois: very meditative because I could just hear the birds, hear 375 00:23:23,789 --> 00:23:27,570 Francis Bourgeois: the geese in the water, and wait for the trains 376 00:23:27,570 --> 00:23:32,158 Francis Bourgeois: to come. But also there are some nutty memories with 377 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:37,138 Francis Bourgeois: this place. My friends and I were playing poker once, not betting 378 00:23:37,138 --> 00:23:40,648 Francis Bourgeois: or anything, we were just kind of playing and we 379 00:23:40,650 --> 00:23:43,438 Francis Bourgeois: stayed up rather late, got to about 4: 00 in 380 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,260 Francis Bourgeois: the morning and I said, " Oh guys, well, do you 381 00:23:46,260 --> 00:23:48,840 Francis Bourgeois: want to see the DB 60 on the steel?" And they were like, " 382 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,480 Francis Bourgeois: Well..." My friends in my flat at the time weren't 383 00:23:51,570 --> 00:23:56,940 Francis Bourgeois: really that into the trains, but happily they obliged and 384 00:23:57,059 --> 00:24:00,090 Francis Bourgeois: we cycled out on our bikes and saw the Class 60, 385 00:24:00,570 --> 00:24:02,609 Francis Bourgeois: that was nice. And then we saw the sun was 386 00:24:02,609 --> 00:24:06,240 Francis Bourgeois: rising, we thought, well, we took our bikes safely to 387 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:12,330 Francis Bourgeois: Attenborough Nature Reserve where we cycled until it was the 388 00:24:12,330 --> 00:24:16,619 Francis Bourgeois: sunrise, which was beautiful. And we sat there next to 389 00:24:16,619 --> 00:24:19,260 Francis Bourgeois: the railway line and watched the trains come in the 390 00:24:19,260 --> 00:24:22,888 Francis Bourgeois: morning. We were waving and getting tones and it was brilliant. 391 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,190 Francis Bourgeois: And we ended up, all of us just lying down 392 00:24:26,190 --> 00:24:28,740 Francis Bourgeois: on the tarmac, not on a road or anything, but 393 00:24:28,740 --> 00:24:31,138 Francis Bourgeois: just lying there, and I was just like, oh, this 394 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,949 Francis Bourgeois: is brilliant. Then we went to McDonald's and got breakfast, 395 00:24:35,250 --> 00:24:37,770 Francis Bourgeois: Egg McMuffin, it was just so nice. 396 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,510 Alex Legouix: Wow, that's a fun experience. 397 00:24:39,540 --> 00:24:42,928 Francis Bourgeois: But this was after we'd finished our exams and things, 398 00:24:42,930 --> 00:24:46,590 Francis Bourgeois: so we could afford to go to bed at 8: 00 in the morning. 399 00:24:46,590 --> 00:24:47,728 Alex Legouix: Yeah, yeah. 400 00:24:47,729 --> 00:24:52,230 Francis Bourgeois: But it was a very, very happy memory. Yeah. 401 00:24:53,820 --> 00:24:58,230 Alex Legouix: What other things would you find that could potentially give 402 00:24:58,230 --> 00:25:01,920 Alex Legouix: you that same adrenaline rush as you get from the trains? 403 00:25:03,809 --> 00:25:04,229 Francis Bourgeois: Music. 404 00:25:04,230 --> 00:25:04,231 Alex Legouix: Okay. 405 00:25:04,231 --> 00:25:04,232 Francis Bourgeois: Live music. 406 00:25:04,232 --> 00:25:06,359 Alex Legouix: Okay. Any style in particular? 407 00:25:07,259 --> 00:25:13,079 Francis Bourgeois: Electronic music, and just stuff that's from quite a lot of people, very overwhelming 408 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,980 Francis Bourgeois: and difficult to listen to. Electronic music gets me going 409 00:25:16,980 --> 00:25:19,830 Francis Bourgeois: the same way that a train does. I get goosebumps very 410 00:25:19,830 --> 00:25:24,031 Francis Bourgeois: easily and get the... 411 00:25:24,031 --> 00:25:24,032 Alex Legouix: Yeah, yeah. 412 00:25:24,032 --> 00:25:28,498 Francis Bourgeois: The rush. And it happens the most with electronic music. And the 413 00:25:28,500 --> 00:25:31,859 Francis Bourgeois: railway too. When I see a Class 37 pulling in, 414 00:25:31,859 --> 00:25:38,910 Francis Bourgeois: I feel the shivers underneath my jacket. And even sometimes 415 00:25:38,970 --> 00:25:42,540 Francis Bourgeois: the thought of a railway thing that's happened, that's given 416 00:25:42,540 --> 00:25:44,219 Francis Bourgeois: me goosebumps, it gives me goosebumps. 417 00:25:44,219 --> 00:25:47,638 Alex Legouix: Wow. You have them right now? 418 00:25:47,909 --> 00:25:48,329 Francis Bourgeois: Kind of. 419 00:25:48,329 --> 00:25:48,658 Alex Legouix: I have goosebump envy. 420 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,500 Francis Bourgeois: So I was thinking now, I was driving my Nissan Micro 421 00:25:56,550 --> 00:26:00,148 Francis Bourgeois: just outside a place called Minffordd , in Northwest Wales, 422 00:26:00,660 --> 00:26:03,150 Francis Bourgeois: where the road and the tracks run alongside each other. 423 00:26:03,750 --> 00:26:08,760 Francis Bourgeois: And I'd planned it so that I'd see the 37 and 97, get 424 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,570 Francis Bourgeois: in my car, drive next to it. And I was driving and 425 00:26:12,570 --> 00:26:15,330 Francis Bourgeois: I looked briefly to my right and I saw one 426 00:26:15,330 --> 00:26:21,570 Francis Bourgeois: of the guys going, " Yeah," look at me, and they thrashed the engine, and I was going " Yeah," back. 427 00:26:21,570 --> 00:26:26,520 Francis Bourgeois: And it was that exchange of energy, when he was 428 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:31,859 Francis Bourgeois: just like, look at me, going, " Yeah." And afterwards, I very, very, 429 00:26:31,859 --> 00:26:35,010 Francis Bourgeois: very rarely get the feeling, but it's only actually happened, 430 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,609 Francis Bourgeois: I can recall, in this scenario that I've done twice, 431 00:26:39,270 --> 00:26:44,190 Francis Bourgeois: where my legs and arms are totally... It's not goosebumps, 432 00:26:44,190 --> 00:26:46,230 Francis Bourgeois: it's more adrenaline buzzing- 433 00:26:46,230 --> 00:26:46,770 Alex Legouix: Yeah, yeah. 434 00:26:47,490 --> 00:26:49,770 Francis Bourgeois: You need to run because there's a dinosaur chasing you, 435 00:26:49,770 --> 00:26:56,070 Francis Bourgeois: kind of electricity. But it's sustained, and it's the most amazing 436 00:26:56,070 --> 00:26:56,609 Francis Bourgeois: feeling of- 437 00:26:58,109 --> 00:26:58,109 Alex Legouix: Wow. 438 00:26:58,109 --> 00:27:03,720 Francis Bourgeois: ... I can't really liken it to anything really, apart from potentially getting electrocuted, 439 00:27:06,180 --> 00:27:06,869 Francis Bourgeois: not severely- 440 00:27:06,869 --> 00:27:07,770 Alex Legouix: But positively. 441 00:27:08,849 --> 00:27:12,660 Francis Bourgeois: Yeah. Yeah, it's just an amazing sensation. 442 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,599 Alex Legouix: You've spoken about music a little bit, but I know 443 00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:17,880 Alex Legouix: that music means an awful lot to you, doesn't it? 444 00:27:17,940 --> 00:27:20,609 Francis Bourgeois: So I had a very happy gig in my first 445 00:27:20,609 --> 00:27:25,440 Francis Bourgeois: year of uni. I went to see Channel One Sound System, 446 00:27:27,450 --> 00:27:32,489 Francis Bourgeois: which are these two awesome guys who have had this 447 00:27:33,839 --> 00:27:38,310 Francis Bourgeois: dub reggae orientated sound system for quite a while. And 448 00:27:38,310 --> 00:27:41,880 Francis Bourgeois: they take it around the world, and it's this big 449 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:49,319 Francis Bourgeois: thumping heavy subwoofer system that is very enjoyable to listen to. 450 00:27:49,590 --> 00:27:56,070 Francis Bourgeois: It's real music at its core, no frills or unnecessary 451 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:01,770 Francis Bourgeois: lights or anything, it's just the vinyl, the sound system, 452 00:28:01,830 --> 00:28:05,280 Francis Bourgeois: and a couple of effects. And I saw that they were 453 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,969 Francis Bourgeois: bringing their sound system to Nottingham, I basically really bigged 454 00:28:08,969 --> 00:28:10,830 Francis Bourgeois: it up to my friends for a couple of weeks. 455 00:28:10,830 --> 00:28:12,990 Francis Bourgeois: I said, " We need to go." Managed to get about 456 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,230 Francis Bourgeois: 12 people to come. And the warm- up act was 457 00:28:16,230 --> 00:28:24,150 Francis Bourgeois: this spoken word artist. I appreciate spoken word, but sometimes 458 00:28:24,450 --> 00:28:27,418 Francis Bourgeois: I find it just slightly awkward, and that was the 459 00:28:27,420 --> 00:28:32,070 Francis Bourgeois: case when we walked in. I felt responsible for the people 460 00:28:32,070 --> 00:28:34,620 Francis Bourgeois: who I'd brought along. And I said, " Look, please stick around, 461 00:28:34,890 --> 00:28:38,550 Francis Bourgeois: they're not on yet." And then I went to the 462 00:28:38,550 --> 00:28:43,620 Francis Bourgeois: loo and I had noticed it had gone quiet, then 463 00:28:43,679 --> 00:28:46,680 Francis Bourgeois: I heard them start and I was like, yes, brilliant, okay, they're on. 464 00:28:48,209 --> 00:28:48,629 Francis Bourgeois: The urinal that I was- 465 00:28:48,629 --> 00:28:48,870 Alex Legouix: Going to the loo. 466 00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:54,929 Francis Bourgeois: ... engaging with, started rattling on the wall. 467 00:28:55,049 --> 00:28:55,439 Alex Legouix: Oh wow. 468 00:28:55,439 --> 00:29:06,720 Francis Bourgeois: It was going... And all the little lemon cube things were moving around, and it 469 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:12,120 Francis Bourgeois: was brilliant. I was like, okay, cool, now we're in action. And I 470 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,510 Francis Bourgeois: came outside and then I saw my friends coming away 471 00:29:15,510 --> 00:29:19,440 Francis Bourgeois: from the bar to the sound system, and it was like they weren't 472 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,309 Francis Bourgeois: really saying anything, but they were all really bopping their heads, 473 00:29:23,309 --> 00:29:27,240 Francis Bourgeois: and smiling and laughing, and that's all I needed to see. 474 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,421 Alex Legouix: Amazing. Do you think it's the base that gets you? 475 00:29:30,421 --> 00:29:32,430 Francis Bourgeois: Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Well, it's- 476 00:29:32,490 --> 00:29:32,611 Alex Legouix: All of it. 477 00:29:32,611 --> 00:29:35,009 Francis Bourgeois: ... it's the whole spectrum. 478 00:29:35,190 --> 00:29:35,610 Alex Legouix: Yeah. 479 00:29:35,670 --> 00:29:41,129 Francis Bourgeois: Primarily the base and the treble. The level crossing is 480 00:29:41,129 --> 00:29:45,000 Francis Bourgeois: going down, come on. Oh, look at how sweet that is, there's a 481 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,380 Francis Bourgeois: kid and his parents. 482 00:29:46,950 --> 00:29:47,430 Alex Legouix: Oh look. 483 00:29:47,430 --> 00:29:49,650 Francis Bourgeois: Look. And they did a tone as well. 484 00:29:49,650 --> 00:29:54,690 Alex Legouix: Aw. Which one was that? Ah, yeah. 485 00:29:54,929 --> 00:29:57,449 Francis Bourgeois: Class 170. I think they did rear tones as well, 486 00:29:58,289 --> 00:30:03,090 Francis Bourgeois: that there for him could be a formative memory that 487 00:30:03,330 --> 00:30:04,950 Francis Bourgeois: gives him a passion for trains. 488 00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:14,459 Alex Legouix: Yeah. So, how did you feel when the big fashion 489 00:30:14,460 --> 00:30:17,880 Alex Legouix: houses approached you, and has it affected your love of style? 490 00:30:18,269 --> 00:30:21,330 Francis Bourgeois: Whilst I was at uni, I was a model, and... Well, 491 00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:24,660 Francis Bourgeois: it wasn't full time, but I did a couple of gigs here 492 00:30:24,660 --> 00:30:32,910 Francis Bourgeois: and there, and getting approached by a high fashion brand, it's the 493 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,070 Francis Bourgeois: golden ticket essentially in the modeling industry, especially with brands 494 00:30:38,070 --> 00:30:41,820 Francis Bourgeois: like Gucci and Dior, et cetera. So, when it first 495 00:30:41,820 --> 00:30:47,430 Francis Bourgeois: came through... Yep, Gucci would like to work with you, 496 00:30:52,290 --> 00:30:59,760 Francis Bourgeois: it was like, what? Because it had come from a completely different direction, from 497 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,860 Francis Bourgeois: approach via the model. It did go through the modeling 498 00:31:04,860 --> 00:31:08,309 Francis Bourgeois: agency, but it wasn't so much of a modeling gig 499 00:31:08,309 --> 00:31:12,719 Francis Bourgeois: per se, I was part of the campaign's story, and 500 00:31:13,769 --> 00:31:17,369 Francis Bourgeois: I guess it helped that I had a modeling background. 501 00:31:17,729 --> 00:31:20,999 Alex Legouix: Yes. And very much a modeling frame. 502 00:31:21,899 --> 00:31:30,930 Francis Bourgeois: Thank you. And yeah, it was just a crazy whirlwind, this production that I was on. 503 00:31:30,930 --> 00:31:34,110 Alex Legouix: Do you have a good relationship with social media? Are 504 00:31:34,110 --> 00:31:39,389 Alex Legouix: you on it a lot anyway, regardless of your own presence 505 00:31:39,389 --> 00:31:40,080 Alex Legouix: and videos? 506 00:31:40,679 --> 00:31:44,280 Francis Bourgeois: Kind of. Most of my time on social media is 507 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,930 Francis Bourgeois: consumed by me reading everything and looking at how people 508 00:31:48,959 --> 00:31:54,930 Francis Bourgeois: are engaging with my stuff. Because although I'm totally organic 509 00:31:54,930 --> 00:32:00,000 Francis Bourgeois: with what I'm putting out, I like to see how 510 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,139 Francis Bourgeois: people are reacting to it, but with that in mind, I'm also 511 00:32:04,139 --> 00:32:08,220 Francis Bourgeois: very conscious of not getting too bogged down in engineering 512 00:32:08,220 --> 00:32:11,700 Francis Bourgeois: my videos for people to watch. Because there was a 513 00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:13,950 Francis Bourgeois: point where I felt like I had to do that 514 00:32:13,950 --> 00:32:18,120 Francis Bourgeois: in order to keep on going. And then I lost 515 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,701 Francis Bourgeois: touch of the real core of the passion. 516 00:32:20,701 --> 00:32:21,031 Alex Legouix: Yeah. 517 00:32:23,219 --> 00:32:25,830 Francis Bourgeois: So, there was a bit of a full circle moment where 518 00:32:25,830 --> 00:32:28,170 Francis Bourgeois: I thought, actually, do you know what? I'm just going 519 00:32:28,170 --> 00:32:32,580 Francis Bourgeois: to not think about how I'm phrasing the intro, I'm 520 00:32:32,580 --> 00:32:34,889 Francis Bourgeois: just going to say what's on my mind and then 521 00:32:34,889 --> 00:32:37,830 Francis Bourgeois: just let whatever happens pan out, and however I react 522 00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:43,230 Francis Bourgeois: to it, be the core of the video. And happily, 523 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,190 Francis Bourgeois: I now know that that is the ultimate formula, because I'm 524 00:32:47,190 --> 00:32:52,049 Francis Bourgeois: happiest because I'm not overthinking my passion and these situations 525 00:32:52,050 --> 00:32:55,889 Francis Bourgeois: that I love, and also people are getting the genuine 526 00:32:55,889 --> 00:33:01,980 Francis Bourgeois: me in these moments. The turning point was, I've filmed 527 00:33:01,980 --> 00:33:06,990 Francis Bourgeois: a video at Hemel Hempstead, and I said, " I can't 528 00:33:06,990 --> 00:33:09,270 Francis Bourgeois: believe I'm saying this, but I'm about to see two 529 00:33:09,270 --> 00:33:12,029 Francis Bourgeois: rail tours crossing over at exactly the same point." And 530 00:33:12,029 --> 00:33:15,389 Francis Bourgeois: I was dead excited about it, and I was on the 531 00:33:15,389 --> 00:33:18,180 Francis Bourgeois: wrong side of the platform. And then in the moment 532 00:33:18,180 --> 00:33:21,510 Francis Bourgeois: I was like S- H- I- T. Take the camera 533 00:33:21,510 --> 00:33:25,290 Francis Bourgeois: off the lamp post that I'd mounted it onto, and 534 00:33:25,290 --> 00:33:28,320 Francis Bourgeois: I'm like, I'm not going to be able to see it here. And usually if I'd 535 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,680 Francis Bourgeois: had my, thinking about my video too much, I'd think, 536 00:33:32,610 --> 00:33:35,730 Francis Bourgeois: oh, well, that's ruined now, people are going to be 537 00:33:35,820 --> 00:33:39,000 Francis Bourgeois: uninterested in the fact that this has happened. But I thought, you know 538 00:33:39,390 --> 00:33:43,530 Francis Bourgeois: what? I'll just keep it rolling. And I left it. 539 00:33:44,220 --> 00:33:47,999 Francis Bourgeois: The whole situation was part of the video. And I 540 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,150 Francis Bourgeois: was astounded by how well it did. And it's because 541 00:33:51,150 --> 00:33:54,630 Francis Bourgeois: I didn't think at all about... I was just so in 542 00:33:54,630 --> 00:34:01,440 Francis Bourgeois: the moment. And that's it, it's just passion and genuine, just being in 543 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,900 Francis Bourgeois: connection with what I love, and being in connection with 544 00:34:03,900 --> 00:34:07,379 Francis Bourgeois: my feelings, that's just the formula that works. I'm sure, 545 00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:13,650 Francis Bourgeois: can work for other video creators too. So, that house 546 00:34:13,650 --> 00:34:18,299 Francis Bourgeois: over there, I lived in for two years, and here's 547 00:34:18,300 --> 00:34:19,380 Francis Bourgeois: the university- 548 00:34:19,590 --> 00:34:19,621 Alex Legouix: Oh wow. 549 00:34:19,620 --> 00:34:26,219 Francis Bourgeois: ... lovely green park. And I'd walk/ cycle along here, 550 00:34:26,759 --> 00:34:29,160 Francis Bourgeois: I'd go up to the co- op on the corner 551 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:36,660 Francis Bourgeois: to get my little pasta ingredient. And I'd play Frisbee 552 00:34:36,660 --> 00:34:39,150 Francis Bourgeois: with my friends in the park there, we'd have some 553 00:34:39,150 --> 00:34:41,759 Francis Bourgeois: nice cold beers in the sun, when all of the 554 00:34:41,759 --> 00:34:44,099 Francis Bourgeois: work's out the way. And then we're going to take 555 00:34:44,099 --> 00:34:44,760 Francis Bourgeois: a left here. 556 00:34:44,910 --> 00:34:46,230 Alex Legouix: Oh, so we're actually going to be able to go 557 00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:48,660 Alex Legouix: past your old flat, how exciting. 558 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,990 Francis Bourgeois: Yeah. And there's an Nissan Micra that's exactly like my Nissan Micra. 559 00:34:51,989 --> 00:34:54,780 Alex Legouix: Oh yes, what's the name of your Micra? 560 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:54,841 Francis Bourgeois: Lucy. 561 00:34:54,841 --> 00:34:55,381 Alex Legouix: Lucy. Why is it called Lucy? 562 00:34:57,690 --> 00:34:59,910 Francis Bourgeois: Because of the first two letters of the number plate. 563 00:34:59,940 --> 00:34:59,969 Alex Legouix: Oh. 564 00:34:59,969 --> 00:35:04,589 Francis Bourgeois: But it's very surreal to be here. I have happy 565 00:35:04,590 --> 00:35:07,800 Francis Bourgeois: memories being here. And me and my friends used to, in the 566 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,950 Francis Bourgeois: evening, go in the garden, watch the planes come in 567 00:35:10,950 --> 00:35:15,150 Francis Bourgeois: to East Midlands airport, because the flight path goes over the house. 568 00:35:15,179 --> 00:35:19,139 Francis Bourgeois: And there'd always be a 747 that would fly in, in 569 00:35:19,139 --> 00:35:25,860 Francis Bourgeois: the evening, from Cincinnati. And sometimes if we had a 570 00:35:25,860 --> 00:35:27,420 Francis Bourgeois: bit more time on our hands, we'd go to the 571 00:35:27,420 --> 00:35:29,520 Francis Bourgeois: airport itself to watch them come in. 572 00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:36,359 Alex Legouix: So, where are we right now? 573 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,609 Francis Bourgeois: This is an industrial site in Nottingham where scrap metal 574 00:35:41,609 --> 00:35:45,930 Francis Bourgeois: is put in these wagons and then transported to places 575 00:35:45,930 --> 00:35:48,239 Francis Bourgeois: where they could be processed. I was just at the 576 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,989 Francis Bourgeois: bridge there once and I was filming a scrap train come out, when I 577 00:35:51,989 --> 00:35:55,229 Francis Bourgeois: noticed a girl behind me standing there, and I thought, oh, it's 578 00:35:55,230 --> 00:35:58,980 Francis Bourgeois: weird, carried on filming. And then she said, " Excuse me, 579 00:35:59,340 --> 00:36:04,530 Francis Bourgeois: do you make train videos?" I was like, " Yeah." And then I 580 00:36:04,530 --> 00:36:07,739 Francis Bourgeois: suddenly twigged, and she said, " Me and my boyfriend love 581 00:36:07,739 --> 00:36:11,609 Francis Bourgeois: watching your videos." And it was the first time someone had said 582 00:36:11,610 --> 00:36:14,460 Francis Bourgeois: that to me. And I was completely in shock, and 583 00:36:14,460 --> 00:36:16,559 Francis Bourgeois: she asked for a photo. I would love to find 584 00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:20,310 Francis Bourgeois: that photo out there somewhere. It was a moment of realization 585 00:36:20,310 --> 00:36:23,580 Francis Bourgeois: that I'm not just putting stuff onto the internet and 586 00:36:23,580 --> 00:36:25,560 Francis Bourgeois: then it sitting in isolation. 587 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:33,960 Alex Legouix: It's obviously a really fond memory. Was or is fame important? 588 00:36:37,590 --> 00:36:40,830 Francis Bourgeois: The thing that I value is when I can see 589 00:36:40,830 --> 00:36:46,440 Francis Bourgeois: how happy they are to see me, or when they say how 590 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:51,389 Francis Bourgeois: much my videos have helped them, whether it be through 591 00:36:51,389 --> 00:36:56,520 Francis Bourgeois: lockdown or through school. And I can see the circle 592 00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,630 Francis Bourgeois: of energy come from my videos and then almost back 593 00:37:00,630 --> 00:37:04,650 Francis Bourgeois: to me, through their face. And that's what I value, 594 00:37:04,650 --> 00:37:08,759 Francis Bourgeois: but sometimes it can quite easily get very overwhelming, having 595 00:37:09,210 --> 00:37:13,049 Francis Bourgeois: lots of people saying hello and asking for photos, and 596 00:37:13,049 --> 00:37:17,460 Francis Bourgeois: there are times where I just would really rather not 597 00:37:17,460 --> 00:37:24,060 Francis Bourgeois: be recognized. And the fame has... It doesn't feel like 598 00:37:24,660 --> 00:37:29,309 Francis Bourgeois: fame really, it feels like a bit of a glitch 599 00:37:29,309 --> 00:37:35,640 Francis Bourgeois: in the Matrix. Because I haven't changed my lifestyle whatsoever, 600 00:37:35,850 --> 00:37:39,030 Francis Bourgeois: apart from I take Amy out to nice restaurants and 601 00:37:39,090 --> 00:37:42,720 Francis Bourgeois: things like that every so often. And I think because 602 00:37:42,780 --> 00:37:46,799 Francis Bourgeois: I haven't changed my day- to- day, it does still 603 00:37:46,799 --> 00:37:49,170 Francis Bourgeois: feel weird when someone says hello and stops me in 604 00:37:49,170 --> 00:37:52,290 Francis Bourgeois: the street, but I'm slowly becoming used to it. But 605 00:37:52,290 --> 00:37:55,319 Francis Bourgeois: I think because I spend so much time in other 606 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,309 Francis Bourgeois: people's minds thinking, oh, what are they thinking? Are they okay? 607 00:37:59,309 --> 00:38:04,649 Francis Bourgeois: Da, da, da, da, da. I still have that preset in my brain. So, 608 00:38:04,980 --> 00:38:08,279 Francis Bourgeois: I still treat people the same way. I don't take 609 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:13,110 Francis Bourgeois: it for granted, really. When I feel like I'm starting to 610 00:38:13,110 --> 00:38:18,359 Francis Bourgeois: fall into being used to the fame, I guess, then 611 00:38:18,750 --> 00:38:23,099 Francis Bourgeois: I'm plunked back into my normal patterns, with either something 612 00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:25,259 Francis Bourgeois: that happens or just my normal behavior. 613 00:38:25,498 --> 00:38:27,330 Alex Legouix: You seem to have a lot of self- awareness. 614 00:38:27,330 --> 00:38:32,190 Francis Bourgeois: Yeah, yeah. I think now I've settled into it and 615 00:38:32,190 --> 00:38:36,299 Francis Bourgeois: understand the position I'm in, I can make up my 616 00:38:36,300 --> 00:38:40,529 Francis Bourgeois: mind, which would usually have otherwise been channeled to engineering 617 00:38:40,529 --> 00:38:45,330 Francis Bourgeois: decisions, it's now applying the same skills that I've learned through engineering 618 00:38:45,330 --> 00:38:49,710 Francis Bourgeois: to create solutions for what I'm doing with my work now. 619 00:38:49,710 --> 00:38:58,831 Alex Legouix: So, how was it having tripped down memory lane? 620 00:38:58,830 --> 00:39:00,629 Francis Bourgeois: It's been brilliant. 621 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:01,230 Alex Legouix: Has it? 622 00:39:01,590 --> 00:39:06,180 Francis Bourgeois: Yeah. It doesn't feel like a year and a half 623 00:39:06,390 --> 00:39:11,549 Francis Bourgeois: since I was last living here and studying here, but 624 00:39:11,910 --> 00:39:14,369 Francis Bourgeois: feels like a lot more. I think because of all 625 00:39:14,370 --> 00:39:17,609 Francis Bourgeois: the stuff that's happened in between. I think it's nice 626 00:39:17,609 --> 00:39:19,950 Francis Bourgeois: that we've had a nice sunny day for it, and it's 627 00:39:19,950 --> 00:39:24,629 Francis Bourgeois: really... I know the feeling of being in Nottingham, it 628 00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:27,900 Francis Bourgeois: being a sunny day, looking forward to seeing my friends in 629 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,500 Francis Bourgeois: the afternoon, after doing stuff during the day. 630 00:39:31,739 --> 00:39:38,310 Alex Legouix: Yeah. Nice. Thank you for showing me the reins in the world of trainspotting. We 631 00:39:38,310 --> 00:39:41,250 Alex Legouix: do, however, have one surprise up our sleeve. 632 00:39:41,850 --> 00:39:41,880 Francis Bourgeois: Oh really? 633 00:39:42,030 --> 00:39:44,640 Alex Legouix: Yeah. Would you like to drive the Alpina? 634 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:45,960 Francis Bourgeois: Yes, please. I'd love to. 635 00:39:48,030 --> 00:39:50,909 Alex Legouix: Okay. Has it been a good match for you, do you reckon? 636 00:39:51,089 --> 00:39:51,719 Francis Bourgeois: Yeah, definitely. 637 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:52,410 Alex Legouix: We did well? 638 00:39:52,620 --> 00:39:56,489 Francis Bourgeois: Yeah. I think the quirky rarity of Alpinas is something that I 639 00:39:56,489 --> 00:40:01,200 Francis Bourgeois: really love, and how it's not just a BMW M4, it's a 640 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,319 Francis Bourgeois: real driver's and car enthusiasts car. 641 00:40:04,739 --> 00:40:17,069 Alex Legouix: Yeah. Agreed. All right. Ready? That suits you. 642 00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:17,701 Francis Bourgeois: Thank you. Happy days. 643 00:40:17,701 --> 00:40:28,650 Alex Legouix: Oh, it's quite nice to be driven for once. Enjoy. 644 00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:29,400 Francis Bourgeois: Thank you. 645 00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:31,560 Alex Legouix: How does it feel? 646 00:40:31,950 --> 00:40:37,859 Francis Bourgeois: Great. I have to have a feel of it again, but 647 00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:44,009 Francis Bourgeois: it's nice. Smooth, that's the word. 648 00:40:44,609 --> 00:40:47,909 Alex Legouix: Yeah, it is, considering it's a bit of a pocket 649 00:40:47,910 --> 00:40:49,828 Alex Legouix: rocket. Are you thinking of getting a car? 650 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:56,460 Francis Bourgeois: So, I've been browsing... I'm coming clean as an AutoTrader 651 00:40:56,550 --> 00:41:04,469 Francis Bourgeois: regular browser/ addict amongst... Well, AutoTrader is the one I go 652 00:41:04,469 --> 00:41:04,651 Francis Bourgeois: to the most. 653 00:41:04,651 --> 00:41:04,741 Alex Legouix: Oh, good. 654 00:41:06,330 --> 00:41:11,880 Francis Bourgeois: So, BMW M3 46, I'm constantly checking for new adverts. You 655 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,849 Francis Bourgeois: can really get excited about things because you can find 656 00:41:14,849 --> 00:41:15,179 Francis Bourgeois: a good deal. 657 00:41:15,179 --> 00:41:23,279 Alex Legouix: So, we come to the end of our journey- 658 00:41:23,399 --> 00:41:23,400 Francis Bourgeois: Indeed. 659 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,949 Alex Legouix: ... almost. Have you enjoyed driving the Alpina? 660 00:41:26,370 --> 00:41:29,220 Francis Bourgeois: It's been a real treat. Just wish I could drive it back to London. 661 00:41:29,219 --> 00:41:35,310 Alex Legouix: Yeah, it'd be fun, wouldn't it? Thanks again, I've really enjoyed our chat. 662 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:40,469 Francis Bourgeois: Yeah, I've loved it. It's been really nice. Been lucky with 663 00:41:40,469 --> 00:41:42,780 Francis Bourgeois: the cars on the road as well, I've seen a 664 00:41:42,810 --> 00:41:43,650 Francis Bourgeois: nice variety. 665 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:44,310 Alex Legouix: Yeah. 666 00:41:44,310 --> 00:41:47,760 Francis Bourgeois: And thank you for the lovely chat, I've really enjoyed it. 667 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:48,810 Alex Legouix: Yeah, me too. 668 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,790 Francis Bourgeois: But I'm taking us to Nottingham Station, as there's a 669 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,520 Francis Bourgeois: train coming through the station in a minute. 670 00:41:56,910 --> 00:42:01,049 Alex Legouix: I should have known there'd be some final train link. 671 00:42:01,649 --> 00:42:01,709 Francis Bourgeois: Yeah. 672 00:42:01,709 --> 00:42:02,729 Alex Legouix: What train is it then? 673 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:04,979 Francis Bourgeois: It's a Class 37. 674 00:42:06,299 --> 00:42:06,300 Alex Legouix: Okay. 675 00:42:06,299 --> 00:42:12,748 Francis Bourgeois: 37 175, which is on a UTU test train. Stands for ultrasonic test unit. 676 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,729 Alex Legouix: And what makes that train special? 677 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,380 Francis Bourgeois: Because it sounds fantastic. 678 00:42:17,730 --> 00:42:19,109 Alex Legouix: So, you're excited again, I'm guessing? 679 00:42:19,110 --> 00:42:19,200 Francis Bourgeois: Mm- hmm. 680 00:42:21,090 --> 00:42:23,038 Alex Legouix: I hope you get to shout, hell- raiser. 681 00:42:23,879 --> 00:42:24,389 Francis Bourgeois: Hell fire. 682 00:42:25,109 --> 00:42:30,120 Alex Legouix: Oh, okay. I hope you get to shout, hell fire. Although, hell- raiser 683 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,070 Alex Legouix: would be good too. Right? 684 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:37,589 Francis Bourgeois: Yeah. Maybe that's the American version that they're shouting. 685 00:42:37,590 --> 00:42:37,650 Alex Legouix: Yeah. 686 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:43,290 Francis Bourgeois: Hell- raiser. Darn, that steam train was hell- raiser. 687 00:42:43,350 --> 00:42:45,149 Alex Legouix: I feel like I've got a long way to go before 688 00:42:45,150 --> 00:42:47,880 Alex Legouix: I'm an official trainspotter, the T- shirt just isn't enough, 689 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:48,090 Alex Legouix: is it? 690 00:42:48,420 --> 00:42:54,539 Francis Bourgeois: Nah. Well, I guess in neutral now. One final rev? 691 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:55,410 Alex Legouix: Yeah, go on then. 692 00:43:00,540 --> 00:43:02,970 Francis Bourgeois: Hopefully I can get to drive an Alpina again in the future. 693 00:43:02,969 --> 00:43:04,830 Alex Legouix: Yeah, I hope so. 694 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,030 Francis Bourgeois: Well, thank you. 695 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:10,739 Alex Legouix: Thank you Luke, Francis. I have thoroughly enjoyed our time together. 696 00:43:10,739 --> 00:43:11,520 Francis Bourgeois: Thanks. Thank you. 697 00:43:16,350 --> 00:43:19,290 Alex Legouix: Thanks so much to Francis Bourgeois for allowing me into 698 00:43:19,290 --> 00:43:22,739 Alex Legouix: his fascinating world. You can see exclusive footage of the 699 00:43:22,739 --> 00:43:25,770 Alex Legouix: drive by heading to the Autotrader socials. Look at the 700 00:43:25,770 --> 00:43:28,589 Alex Legouix: episode page for links. You'll also be able to see 701 00:43:28,590 --> 00:43:34,049 Alex Legouix: the Alpina B4, that Francis absolutely loved. And if you are 702 00:43:34,050 --> 00:43:37,050 Alex Legouix: looking for a new vehicle, you can find your perfect match 703 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,460 Alex Legouix: at autotrader. co. uk. This is a new show and 704 00:43:41,460 --> 00:43:44,549 Alex Legouix: I'd love you to follow on your favorite podcast platform. 705 00:43:44,969 --> 00:43:48,058 Alex Legouix: Like what you hear? 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