WEBVTT - Top Tips To Land Your Dream Job 0:00:01.860 --> 0:00:06.540 Hey, this is Kia. Landing your dream job brings happiness, long- 0:00:06.540 --> 0:00:09.210 term career growth, and a better salary, but it can 0:00:09.210 --> 0:00:11.910 be a tricky thing to get right. Welcome to another 0:00:11.910 --> 0:00:14.249 episode of A Little Bit Richer, brought to you by 0:00:14.250 --> 0:00:17.699 my friends at Legal & General. With over 10 years experience 0:00:17.699 --> 0:00:19.918 in recruitment, and the last four of them at Legal & 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:22.829 General in London, Khalifa Mustapha is here to give us 0:00:22.890 --> 0:00:25.980 lots of practical advice to help you land yourself that 0:00:25.980 --> 0:00:28.859 perfect job. Welcome, Khalifa. 0:00:29.250 --> 0:00:30.630 Thank you. Pleasure to be here, Kia. 0:00:30.690 --> 0:00:33.239 Now, let's get straight into it because I know you 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:35.400 are full of the gems that we need to know. 0:00:35.699 --> 0:00:39.000 So to begin with, how do you get yourself ready for a 0:00:39.930 --> 0:00:41.250 job that you'd like to go for? 0:00:41.909 --> 0:00:44.909 I think preparation is key, first and foremost. Try and 0:00:44.909 --> 0:00:47.278 do some research in terms of the specific role that you're 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:50.550 looking to apply for. If you're able to find the 0:00:50.610 --> 0:00:54.059 necessary resources, find out why the job is available, if 0:00:54.059 --> 0:00:57.000 it's a new position, as a replacement position. As much 0:00:57.210 --> 0:01:00.060 background information about a position that you're interested in. 0:01:00.060 --> 0:01:02.940 I think research is key, just knowing what you need 0:01:02.940 --> 0:01:05.488 to know about that role. But what about different platforms to have a look at 0:01:05.490 --> 0:01:07.469 that you can find more information? Like Glassdoor, I know 0:01:07.469 --> 0:01:08.460 that's a really key one for a lot of people. What about that? 0:01:09.389 --> 0:01:12.359 Yeah, Glassdoor is a fantastic tool. You can find reviews 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:16.530 from current employees, previous employees, individuals who may have applied 0:01:16.530 --> 0:01:18.929 for that same company that may not have been successful, 0:01:19.110 --> 0:01:21.809 what their experiences were like. Or you can find out 0:01:21.809 --> 0:01:24.298 what the interview process is like for a specific role. 0:01:24.300 --> 0:01:27.719 How many interviews you might expect. Even you might get 0:01:28.289 --> 0:01:30.149 a peek behind the curtain and see what type of 0:01:30.150 --> 0:01:32.760 questions may be asked. LinkedIn is also... 0:01:32.910 --> 0:01:33.540 A really good one. 0:01:33.540 --> 0:01:36.300 An invaluable tool. You can do more research about the 0:01:36.300 --> 0:01:40.318 company, what the company's ethos is, what the brand is. 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:43.799 Glassdoor and LinkedIn I would say would be probably your two prominent 0:01:43.799 --> 0:01:45.630 platforms to do some research. 0:01:45.630 --> 0:01:49.590 What are some things that you should have a look at when it comes to actually the job specifications? Obviously 0:01:49.590 --> 0:01:52.080 there's a lot of things to consider. I mean, if 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:55.080 I go and look for a job, how do I 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:56.579 know if I'm qualified for it, right? I can go 0:01:56.580 --> 0:01:58.290 and apply to be a lawyer, but I have not 0:01:58.290 --> 0:02:00.119 got a law degree. So what are some of the things that people need 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:01.590 to consider when they're looking at roles? 0:02:01.620 --> 0:02:04.289 Yeah, I think the most common thing people look at are the 0:02:04.289 --> 0:02:07.650 requirements. Which is good, but outside of the requirements are 0:02:07.650 --> 0:02:11.310 the capabilities, the accountabilities, what you'll be doing on a day- to- 0:02:11.310 --> 0:02:14.070 day basis. So I would say keep an eye the 0:02:14.070 --> 0:02:16.559 accountabilities and make sure that they align with what you're 0:02:16.559 --> 0:02:20.219 looking for, because a job title can be very vague 0:02:20.219 --> 0:02:23.129 or very specific, but it doesn't necessarily give you the 0:02:23.129 --> 0:02:26.310 entire picture. So keep an eye outside of what the 0:02:26.310 --> 0:02:28.981 requirements are, but what you're responsible for. 0:02:28.981 --> 0:02:31.380 To follow off the back of that then, where are some good 0:02:31.380 --> 0:02:34.200 places or sources that people can visit to help you 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:35.249 get a good role? 0:02:36.210 --> 0:02:40.709 Outside of a specific company's internal or external careers page, 0:02:40.709 --> 0:02:43.320 which is probably the number one source, I would say 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:47.550 LinkedIn is also a relevant platform to look in. You 0:02:47.550 --> 0:02:53.370 can search in terms of the job title, specific locations. 0:02:53.730 --> 0:02:58.469 Using the LinkedIn groups tool is extremely beneficial. A lot 0:02:58.469 --> 0:03:01.619 of job seekers are able to connect with one another 0:03:02.340 --> 0:03:06.780 in the specific industry. They're able to visit industry events 0:03:06.780 --> 0:03:09.179 or keep up to date with rules and regulations within 0:03:09.179 --> 0:03:12.570 the industry. Again, able to grow your network in that 0:03:12.570 --> 0:03:16.228 field simply because you might be at an event and 0:03:16.500 --> 0:03:18.659 you might speak to someone or rub shoulders with someone 0:03:18.660 --> 0:03:21.389 and you might overhear that this company is hiring. Some 0:03:21.389 --> 0:03:25.020 companies don't necessarily always put jobs on their job board 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:28.710 until they have the green light from HR, et cetera, 0:03:28.710 --> 0:03:32.519 but in LinkedIn groups especially, you almost get an inside 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:35.219 leg in terms of what might be coming in the pipeline. 0:03:35.309 --> 0:03:37.980 Yeah, I think industry- specific groups that you mentioned on LinkedIn, it's not 0:03:37.980 --> 0:03:41.160 something that I've considered. I think there's a lot of 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:42.301 value that can come from your network. 0:03:42.301 --> 0:03:42.961 Definitely. 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:46.050 I'd say probably about 80% of the jobs that I've 0:03:46.050 --> 0:03:49.409 gotten have been off the back of knowing people, having 0:03:49.410 --> 0:03:53.369 conversations, people referred me somewhere, or someone's looking for something 0:03:53.369 --> 0:03:55.680 and they meet me and offered me a job. So 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:57.930 it is always useful to build up that network as well. 0:03:57.930 --> 0:04:01.740 Agreed. Your network is invaluable and it's always a good idea to 0:04:01.860 --> 0:04:03.390 keep that network up to date. 0:04:03.780 --> 0:04:04.230 Absolutely. 0:04:04.290 --> 0:04:07.829 Also, setting up job alerts will be extremely beneficial. You 0:04:07.830 --> 0:04:10.650 can type in the criteria, what your ideal job would 0:04:10.650 --> 0:04:13.650 be, the location, your desired salary, and as soon as 0:04:13.650 --> 0:04:16.529 those jobs are posted on the relevant job boards, they'll 0:04:16.529 --> 0:04:19.200 go to your inbox straight away. So if a new 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:21.690 job is posted, it always helps you to be one 0:04:21.690 --> 0:04:23.729 of the first people in the queue to try and 0:04:23.759 --> 0:04:27.120 apply for that role. As a recruiter, I've had jobs 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:31.589 that have had 200 plus applications, so a job alert 0:04:31.589 --> 0:04:36.570 is probably the most basic and primary way in order 0:04:36.570 --> 0:04:37.080 to do that. 0:04:37.410 --> 0:04:39.779 We've spoken about where we can find the jobs and what 0:04:39.779 --> 0:04:42.359 we need to research. Now we've picked something, we say, " 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:45.089 Right, we want to apply for this." So when you're actually applying for 0:04:45.089 --> 0:04:49.020 a job, what are some things that you suggest helps 0:04:49.020 --> 0:04:51.480 someone really stand out in the application process? 0:04:52.350 --> 0:04:56.339 My first tip would be to tailor your CV to 0:04:56.339 --> 0:04:59.309 the job application. If you're able to maybe marry what 0:04:59.309 --> 0:05:02.969 you've done previously, what you're currently doing to what is 0:05:02.969 --> 0:05:05.549 expected of you in the job, always try to highlight 0:05:05.549 --> 0:05:08.010 that towards the top. If there aren't any things you've 0:05:08.010 --> 0:05:11.130 done previously or currently that match what you'd be expected 0:05:11.130 --> 0:05:16.199 to do, as long as your requirements are aligned. A 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:18.359 lot of people, they move into jobs, so they might 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:22.049 apply for jobs that they feel they hit the brief 0:05:22.109 --> 0:05:27.120 10 out of 10. Sometimes you might only have six 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:30.900 out of 10 requirements. I wouldn't necessarily say that you 0:05:30.900 --> 0:05:34.110 wouldn't be suitable for a role, because those six requirements 0:05:34.110 --> 0:05:37.139 could be absolute essentials as opposed to the four you 0:05:37.139 --> 0:05:40.379 might be missing, which may be desired. So I would 0:05:40.379 --> 0:05:45.029 always say always try and amplify your CV to match 0:05:45.029 --> 0:05:48.300 the role you're currently applying for. Obviously not to embellish 0:05:48.300 --> 0:05:51.270 anything. It's quite easy to get found out. A lot 0:05:51.270 --> 0:05:53.428 of people might be a bit generous with their previous 0:05:53.428 --> 0:05:57.750 experience, but the recruitment industry people speak, even if we're 0:05:57.750 --> 0:06:02.010 not necessarily working at the same company. So you don't 0:06:02.010 --> 0:06:05.370 want to necessarily take yourself out of the running before 0:06:05.370 --> 0:06:07.050 you give yourself a chance. 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:09.089 What about when it comes to your cover letter then? 0:06:09.089 --> 0:06:11.130 Because it could be a bit of a minefield to know what 0:06:11.820 --> 0:06:12.990 you should do with your cover letter. 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.000 I think where a lot of people fall down in 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.669 terms of cover letters is they might oversell themselves. A 0:06:17.670 --> 0:06:20.520 cover letter shouldn't be more than I'd say a few 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:24.779 paragraphs and only maybe three sentences per paragraph. You want 0:06:24.779 --> 0:06:27.510 to give just a glimpse in terms of what you've 0:06:27.510 --> 0:06:29.940 done previously and what you can offer to a company. 0:06:30.210 --> 0:06:32.490 You don't want to put everything in the cover letter. 0:06:32.580 --> 0:06:36.060 Ideally, a cover letter is an intro to your CV, 0:06:36.510 --> 0:06:39.270 and your CV should supplement what you say at the 0:06:39.270 --> 0:06:41.970 job interview. It should just be an introduction to who 0:06:41.970 --> 0:06:44.130 you are, what you're looking for, what you could potentially 0:06:44.130 --> 0:06:46.860 bring to not just the role you're interested in but 0:06:46.860 --> 0:06:48.270 the company you're looking to work for. 0:06:48.390 --> 0:06:50.010 I think that's good to hear. And no one really 0:06:50.010 --> 0:06:51.719 tells you what should go in a cover letter. So 0:06:51.719 --> 0:06:53.729 you feel like it's like a pitch. I feel like I'm on Dragons' Den trying 0:06:54.690 --> 0:06:56.791 to pitch myself, why I'm the perfect person for this role. 0:06:56.791 --> 0:06:56.791 Indeed. 0:06:56.791 --> 0:06:59.428 Like you said, it's an introduction. I think that's a good way 0:06:59.430 --> 0:07:01.320 to look at it. When you put it that way, it 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:03.059 feels a lot more manageable and it makes more sense. 0:07:03.059 --> 0:07:05.911 It's an introduction and your CV will help back that up. 0:07:05.911 --> 0:07:06.000 Exactly. 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:09.780 So I love that. So let's say everyone's taken the 0:07:09.780 --> 0:07:12.029 incredible tips you've given us so far, right? And now 0:07:12.029 --> 0:07:13.980 they're invited to the interview. 0:07:14.130 --> 0:07:15.180 Nice. That's the hard part. 0:07:15.180 --> 0:07:16.920 That's the hard part. But they've made it. They've gotten 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:17.011 to the interview stage. 0:07:17.011 --> 0:07:17.131 They've made it. Exactly. 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:19.470 They've made it there. What would be some of your 0:07:19.470 --> 0:07:21.630 top tips when it comes to preparing for the interview 0:07:21.630 --> 0:07:22.980 and then shining on the actual day? 0:07:23.700 --> 0:07:27.089 If you're actually called for an interview, you're almost halfway 0:07:27.089 --> 0:07:30.029 there. One of the biggest tips in terms of preparing 0:07:30.029 --> 0:07:32.369 for the interview, as I mentioned, research the company you're 0:07:32.370 --> 0:07:34.320 looking to work for. Prior to the interview, try and 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:36.240 do some research. Has the company been in the news 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:39.360 recently? Amplify what you know about the company more so 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:41.429 than what you can see on the company's website. I 0:07:41.429 --> 0:07:45.270 think that gives employers an inside look in terms of 0:07:45.270 --> 0:07:47.969 this person really not just wants this job but they 0:07:47.969 --> 0:07:51.900 actually care for the company. And it also gives prospective 0:07:51.900 --> 0:07:54.480 employers a look into who you are as a person. 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:57.449 A lot of people, they may feel, " I've matched the 0:07:57.450 --> 0:07:59.219 job brief, this is my job." They just have to 0:07:59.219 --> 0:08:01.500 show up. It takes a lot more than that. I've 0:08:01.500 --> 0:08:04.229 never ever heard of an employer say, " I didn't give 0:08:04.230 --> 0:08:06.059 this person the job because they know too much about 0:08:06.059 --> 0:08:08.760 the company." It's always the opposite. They may not have done 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:12.030 enough research. They don't know what we stand for. Outside 0:08:12.030 --> 0:08:15.539 of that, always get rest the night before the interview. 0:08:15.540 --> 0:08:18.630 You don't want to go into an interview flustered. Never 0:08:18.630 --> 0:08:20.849 be late. I think that goes without saying. If it's 0:08:20.849 --> 0:08:23.579 in a location you're not familiar with, maybe do a trial 0:08:23.580 --> 0:08:26.220 run. If you're able to go there a day before, 0:08:26.220 --> 0:08:27.900 just so you know where you're going. And if it's a 0:08:27.900 --> 0:08:31.590 virtual interview via Teams or Zoom, make sure your wifi 0:08:31.590 --> 0:08:35.670 connection is up to scratch. No distractions whatsoever. And always 0:08:35.670 --> 0:08:39.179 dress appropriately. If you're not sure what the time may 0:08:39.179 --> 0:08:42.929 be, because obviously post- pandemic, a lot of interviews have 0:08:42.929 --> 0:08:46.500 been a little bit more relaxed, utilize your recruiter, asking 0:08:46.500 --> 0:08:47.880 them as many questions as possible. 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:50.309 Absolutely. I've had many an interview where I'm like, oh 0:08:50.309 --> 0:08:55.620 my gosh, I'm so tense. So what should ideal, if you can control it, what should ideal body language look like? 0:08:55.620 --> 0:08:58.469 Ideal body language is... And it's probably easier said than 0:08:58.469 --> 0:09:01.140 done, but try to be as relaxed as possible. When 0:09:01.140 --> 0:09:02.550 you're nervous, you tend to speak- 0:09:02.550 --> 0:09:02.910 Very fast. Yes. 0:09:02.910 --> 0:09:04.920 ... a lot quicker than you normally would. Exactly. So, 0:09:05.370 --> 0:09:07.588 breathe. Slow down. One of my biggest tips to a 0:09:07.590 --> 0:09:09.780 lot of my candidates is if you are offered water 0:09:10.110 --> 0:09:12.599 at a job interview or something to drink, always accept 0:09:12.599 --> 0:09:15.839 it, simply because you might encounter a question that you 0:09:15.839 --> 0:09:19.110 don't necessarily know the answer to straight away. So take 0:09:19.110 --> 0:09:21.270 a breath, have a sip of water. That gives you 0:09:21.540 --> 0:09:25.000 slight additional time to think about the answer to the question. 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:25.002 (inaudible) . Yeah, cool. 0:09:25.140 --> 0:09:28.559 And also in an interview, one of the most important 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:31.950 things to consider is the balance between listening and speaking. 0:09:31.950 --> 0:09:35.279 You don't want to over- speak, you don't necessarily want 0:09:35.279 --> 0:09:36.900 to speak too much, and you don't want to under- 0:09:36.900 --> 0:09:39.780 speak. There's a fine line between either overselling yourself or 0:09:39.780 --> 0:09:44.309 underselling yourself. I've seen it where people who are extremely 0:09:44.309 --> 0:09:46.709 qualified for a job, they tend to speak themself out 0:09:46.710 --> 0:09:50.160 of a job. So it's a fine balance. The more 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:53.639 interviews you attend, the more you'll get used to and 0:09:53.639 --> 0:09:57.059 understand when to speak and when not to speak. Don't 0:09:57.059 --> 0:09:58.800 get me wrong here, there's always going to be an 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.559 element of nerves. I mean, it would be a bit 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:03.989 odd if there weren't any nerves. As I mentioned, slow 0:10:03.990 --> 0:10:07.890 your speech, accept water if offered, and just try and 0:10:08.429 --> 0:10:11.339 understand that it's not just you trying to sell yourself. 0:10:11.369 --> 0:10:13.949 At the same time across the table from you is 0:10:14.190 --> 0:10:16.200 the interviewer trying to sell the company to you. 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.150 Sometimes it can feel, oh my gosh. 0:10:18.150 --> 0:10:18.690 One sided. 0:10:18.690 --> 0:10:20.610 Yeah, it feels very one sided, that I'm pitching myself. 0:10:20.610 --> 0:10:22.650 But yeah, you're right. They are also trying to convince 0:10:22.650 --> 0:10:24.870 you that this is a role for you. Now, I 0:10:24.870 --> 0:10:27.779 was always told when you go into an interview, when 0:10:27.780 --> 0:10:29.760 they ask you, " Do you have any questions?" you should 0:10:29.789 --> 0:10:33.150 always have at least one question in your back pocket 0:10:33.210 --> 0:10:35.700 ready to pull out to try and impress. From an 0:10:35.700 --> 0:10:39.449 employer's perspective, what would be some good questions that a 0:10:39.450 --> 0:10:42.059 candidate could ask when they're in an interview? 0:10:42.599 --> 0:10:46.049 Yeah, I agree. I always tell my candidates if possible, 0:10:46.049 --> 0:10:48.809 ask maybe two or three. One thing an employee doesn't 0:10:48.809 --> 0:10:51.449 want to see is someone that has no questions. I 0:10:51.450 --> 0:10:53.760 think that shows a lack of interest in not just 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.880 the job but the company as a whole. One question I 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.400 always encourage is, " What challenges can I expect to face 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.460 in the first three to six to 12 months in 0:11:02.460 --> 0:11:06.420 the role?" That gives you an opportunity to peek behind 0:11:06.450 --> 0:11:09.840 the curtain in terms of... Everything's not always going to 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:13.170 be rosy. So it gives the employer an opportunity to 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.170 let you know what it's like on the ground once 0:11:16.170 --> 0:11:19.799 you've started from day one. A few more questions I 0:11:19.799 --> 0:11:22.500 would always encourage job seekers to ask is what do 0:11:22.500 --> 0:11:25.708 they enjoy about working at the company? And a further 0:11:25.710 --> 0:11:29.520 question to ask is, where can this job lead to 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:32.069 in 18 to 24 months? You don't want to be 0:11:32.070 --> 0:11:35.429 seen as using this specific job as a stepping stone 0:11:35.429 --> 0:11:38.009 or being seen as being impatient, but you also don't 0:11:38.009 --> 0:11:41.968 want to be seen as not necessarily motivated. So find 0:11:41.969 --> 0:11:44.370 out what doors, what avenues this job can open or 0:11:44.370 --> 0:11:44.939 lead to. 0:11:45.150 --> 0:11:48.300 I think that's really, really useful. Just having those questions, 0:11:48.300 --> 0:11:50.580 yeah. I think the challenges one is not one that 0:11:50.580 --> 0:11:55.080 I thought about. We know that some job applications will 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:58.139 have the initial application, then interview, and some of them 0:11:58.139 --> 0:12:01.620 have two, three, maybe even four rounds of interviews. So 0:12:02.130 --> 0:12:06.328 what are you, from an employer's perspective, looking for more 0:12:06.330 --> 0:12:07.861 of in a second interview compared to the first? 0:12:07.861 --> 0:12:12.030 In a second interview, I think what most employees would be 0:12:12.030 --> 0:12:15.690 looking for is how you'll fit in with the company. 0:12:15.780 --> 0:12:18.540 What's Kia like as a person? What are her interests 0:12:18.540 --> 0:12:23.220 outside of work and how do those characteristics align with 0:12:23.220 --> 0:12:27.240 the company's morals? So in the second interview, I would always 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:30.420 encourage, if you have any extracurricular activities, if you've done 0:12:30.420 --> 0:12:34.978 any volunteering, that's the time to amplify those qualities or 0:12:34.980 --> 0:12:37.828 those traits. You've gotten past the first interview, which is 0:12:38.070 --> 0:12:40.530 mostly technical. Can you do the job? Are you suitable 0:12:40.530 --> 0:12:43.950 for the job? Now it's, will I feel comfortable having 0:12:43.950 --> 0:12:46.228 you represent the company? Are you someone that I can 0:12:46.230 --> 0:12:47.939 see flourishing within this company? 0:12:48.900 --> 0:12:51.989 After you've been to an interview, quite often you're on 0:12:51.990 --> 0:12:54.358 tenterhooks. You're wondering, have I got it? Have I not? So 0:12:54.390 --> 0:12:57.300 what's the best way to follow up after you've gone 0:12:57.300 --> 0:12:57.870 to an interview? 0:12:58.620 --> 0:13:01.230 Send an email thanking the interviewers for their time if you 0:13:01.230 --> 0:13:04.799 have access to their email address. If it has reinforced 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:07.410 your desire to work for a specific company, do say that, " 0:13:07.710 --> 0:13:10.020 I really enjoyed meeting you. Thank you for your time. 0:13:10.049 --> 0:13:12.539 After learning more about the role in the company, it's 0:13:12.540 --> 0:13:15.870 only reinforced my desire to work alongside you in this 0:13:15.870 --> 0:13:18.630 job." But leave it at that. Don't ask, " When can 0:13:18.630 --> 0:13:20.730 I hear from you?" You might be one of two 0:13:20.730 --> 0:13:23.189 interviews. You might be one of 10. So you don't 0:13:23.190 --> 0:13:26.040 necessarily know what that timeframe looks like. If you haven't 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.289 heard in... I'd say if you give it maybe a 0:13:28.289 --> 0:13:30.540 week, a week and a half, maybe send a gentle 0:13:30.540 --> 0:13:33.510 email just to say, " Hi, hiring manager. It was a 0:13:33.510 --> 0:13:37.170 pleasure meeting you. I just wondered if I could potentially 0:13:37.170 --> 0:13:40.260 expect an update at any point." Just leave it at that. 0:13:40.410 --> 0:13:44.580 I wouldn't recommend chasing anything beyond that. If you haven't 0:13:44.580 --> 0:13:48.479 heard anything in over two or three weeks, then realistically 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.179 you probably haven't received it, but even still, use that 0:13:51.179 --> 0:13:53.670 as a learning. I always say there are no negatives 0:13:53.670 --> 0:13:56.250 in an interview. Even if you don't get the job, 0:13:56.250 --> 0:13:59.309 you should always receive interview feedback, and in that feedback 0:13:59.309 --> 0:14:02.099 look for tips where you can apply for the next 0:14:02.099 --> 0:14:05.940 interview. Until you have actually been offered a role, you 0:14:05.940 --> 0:14:08.130 should always continue that job search because you just never 0:14:08.130 --> 0:14:11.699 know. It's a numbers game. If you apply for just 0:14:11.700 --> 0:14:17.160 one, realistically, you'll probably be disappointed. So never rest on 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:17.700 your laurels. 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.309 Yeah, I agree. And don't let it get you down. 0:14:20.309 --> 0:14:21.540 Everything is a lesson. 0:14:21.690 --> 0:14:21.691 Exactly. 0:14:21.691 --> 0:14:24.930 So if you didn't get this one, get the feedback, implement 0:14:24.930 --> 0:14:27.030 it so the next one you can improve and get 0:14:27.030 --> 0:14:28.500 better, and then you will be offered a job role. 0:14:28.500 --> 0:14:28.680 Indeed. 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:30.150 So I think that is a very positive way to look at it. 0:14:30.150 --> 0:14:31.620 Sometimes the next one is the best one. 0:14:31.710 --> 0:14:35.400 Exactly that. Rejection is redirection. I'm coming back with those. 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:35.461 We're going back and forth. 0:14:35.461 --> 0:14:38.580 Give me a few minutes, I'll have another one for you. 0:14:38.580 --> 0:14:43.230 Yeah, you'll have another one. Okay, so let's assume someone's gone through all 0:14:43.230 --> 0:14:45.750 of these stages and they've actually been offered the job. 0:14:46.020 --> 0:14:50.790 Amazing. How do you then go about negotiating the salary 0:14:50.790 --> 0:14:53.790 and the benefits that you feel like you deserve? 0:14:54.330 --> 0:14:57.120 In most cases, Kia, it's never a good idea to 0:14:57.120 --> 0:15:00.570 discuss salary with the actual interviewer or the employer. A 0:15:00.570 --> 0:15:04.560 lot of companies pay recruiters a handsome fee to take 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:09.150 care of their job searches for them, so always try 0:15:09.150 --> 0:15:11.879 and find out beforehand from your recruiter what a job 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.879 is paying. If you don't for whatever reason have access 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.399 to a recruiter, you can utilize a lot of job 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:23.100 boards. Glassdoor's one, for example. Totaljobs, Indeed, Reed, just off the 0:15:23.100 --> 0:15:25.560 top of my head. A lot of these websites have 0:15:25.590 --> 0:15:28.950 salary calculators. So you'd be able to enter the job 0:15:28.950 --> 0:15:32.279 title, enter the location, and it gives you a rough 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.309 estimate what to expect from that. But one thing I 0:15:35.309 --> 0:15:38.790 would say, Kia, it's not always about salary. Sometimes the 0:15:38.790 --> 0:15:41.250 wider benefits are much more important than how much you'll 0:15:41.250 --> 0:15:44.190 take home every month. What's the company's pension like? How 0:15:44.190 --> 0:15:47.759 much holiday are you offered? Is there a potential bonus 0:15:47.759 --> 0:15:52.350 plan? Those are the wider perks of a role that I think 0:15:52.559 --> 0:15:57.211 could potentially go amiss initially. I can't state enough how important a good pension is. 0:15:57.211 --> 0:15:58.530 Important. Very important, pension, yeah. 0:15:58.980 --> 0:16:01.440 Exactly. Because we're not going to be in our twenties forever. 0:16:01.860 --> 0:16:04.050 Yeah. We talk about all the time on A Little 0:16:04.050 --> 0:16:06.449 Bit Richer, pensions are so important. 0:16:06.450 --> 0:16:06.750 Exactly. 0:16:06.750 --> 0:16:10.139 Like negotiate holidays, other things, even like learn new skills, 0:16:10.139 --> 0:16:12.089 you want to learn new language. All the things that you 0:16:12.090 --> 0:16:13.290 can negotiate that isn't just- 0:16:13.290 --> 0:16:14.940 Will they invest in training for you? 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:18.210 Exactly. Training. It isn't just the monetary value of the 0:16:18.210 --> 0:16:21.270 salary you're going to get, there is a wider scope 0:16:21.270 --> 0:16:22.139 that you can have a look at. 0:16:22.469 --> 0:16:23.610 Helps you get a little bit richer. 0:16:24.540 --> 0:16:26.849 You are taking my line from me. I'm going to 0:16:26.849 --> 0:16:30.660 be out of a job soon. Okay. Well, you shared some 0:16:30.690 --> 0:16:33.840 incredible tips on this podcast, but before we end, I 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:36.120 want to ask you, what are your top three tips 0:16:36.150 --> 0:16:38.579 for landing that fabulous new job? 0:16:38.790 --> 0:16:41.790 Top tip will always be research. Research the company. You 0:16:41.790 --> 0:16:45.000 can never do too much research. Tip two would be 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:47.729 flexible. Don't expect to always get the first role you 0:16:47.730 --> 0:16:51.630 apply for. Always work from a numbers mindset. And third 0:16:51.630 --> 0:16:54.300 tip I would say is just be positive. There are always 0:16:54.300 --> 0:16:56.339 going to be lessons in life, not just your job 0:16:56.340 --> 0:16:58.950 search, but things aren't always going to go your way. 0:16:59.219 --> 0:17:03.239 And the job search specifically, it can be very easy 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:06.869 to adopt maybe a negative mindset. " I've been looking for 0:17:06.869 --> 0:17:09.810 months now and I haven't found anything." But the day 0:17:09.810 --> 0:17:11.370 you give up, tomorrow is... 0:17:11.550 --> 0:17:12.090 That could be the day. 0:17:12.090 --> 0:17:12.931 That could be the day. Exactly. 0:17:12.931 --> 0:17:13.440 Could be the day. 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:18.630 So, research, positivity, and flexibility I think are three keys 0:17:18.630 --> 0:17:21.030 that will get you far. Not necessarily just in the 0:17:21.030 --> 0:17:23.820 job search, but in your career will help you flourish. 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:27.300 Amazing. Thank you so much. I have taken so much. 0:17:27.300 --> 0:17:30.240 I know our listeners will have too. So Khalifa, thank 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:30.629 you for coming to the podcast. 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:32.370 Kia, absolute pleasure. Thank you for having me. 0:17:34.469 --> 0:17:37.740 Great. Thank you, Khalifa. Lots of practical ways people can 0:17:37.740 --> 0:17:40.708 land the job of their dreams. Next time, we're getting 0:17:40.709 --> 0:17:43.590 lots of great advice from financial planner Orann Coyle, who's 0:17:43.590 --> 0:17:46.620 going to be demystifying financial advice and giving great tips 0:17:46.740 --> 0:17:49.080 to plan your financial future. I'd love it if you 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:51.869 could review the podcast, spread the word, and help others get a little 0:17:52.530 --> 0:17:55.289 bit richer too. 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