WEBVTT - The Secret to Investing Like a Pro

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<v Announcer>This  series  is  brought  to  you  by  L&amp; G,  helping 

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<v Announcer>you  build  a  future  that's  a  little  bit  richer.

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<v Iona Bain>Hello.  I'm  Iona  Bain,  and  welcome  to  A  Little  Bit 

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<v Iona Bain>Richer,  brought  to  you  by  Legal &amp;  General.  This  is  part two 

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<v Iona Bain>of  our  investing  series,  where  we're  moving  from  mindset  into 

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<v Iona Bain>mechanics.  So  if  you  listened  to  the  last  episode  and  thought, "

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<v Iona Bain>Yep,  I'm  in,  what  do  I  do  next,"  this  one's 

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<v Iona Bain>for  you.  Today  we're  going  to  be  breaking  down  the 

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<v Iona Bain>practical  side  of  investing.  We're  going  to  be  looking  at 

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<v Iona Bain>the  different  ways  to  invest,  common  mistakes  people  make,  and 

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<v Iona Bain>how  to  review  your  investments  over  time  without  panicking  every 

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<v Iona Bain>moment  the  market  moves.  And  to  get  under  the  bonnet 

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<v Iona Bain>of  all  of  this,  let's  welcome  back  founder  of  Vestpod 

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<v Iona Bain>and  host  of  The  Wallet  podcast,  Emilie  Bellet.  Hi,  Emilie.

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<v Emilie Bellet>Hi,  Iona.

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<v Iona Bain>Welcome  back.  Now,  we're  going  to  ask  you  to  do 

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<v Iona Bain>another  30- second  summary  for  us,  since  the  last  one 

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<v Iona Bain>you  did  was  so  good.  So  in  30  seconds  or 

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<v Iona Bain>less,  what  is  an  investing  portfolio  and  why  does  it 

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<v Iona Bain>matter?  Go.

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<v Emilie Bellet>An  investment  portfolio  is  simply  your  baskets  of  investment.  Inside 

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<v Emilie Bellet>it,  you  will  find  a  mix  of  equities,  pieces  of 

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<v Emilie Bellet>companies.  You  will  find  bonds,  which  are  loans  to  companies 

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<v Emilie Bellet>and  governments,  cash,  real  estate,  and  sometimes  also  other  asset 

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<v Emilie Bellet>classes.  You  know  that  investments  can  go  up  and  down, 

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<v Emilie Bellet>so  that's  important  that  you  spread  your  risk,  and  that's 

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<v Emilie Bellet>why  instead  of  picking  just  one  investment,  you're  building  a  portfolio.

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<v Iona Bain>Spot  on,  I  would  say.  Can  you  talk  us  through 

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<v Iona Bain>the  different  components  of  investing,  i. e.  the  different  steps 

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<v Iona Bain>that  you  go  through  in  order  to  become  an  investor?

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<v Emilie Bellet>So  when  you  start  investing,  first  thing,  you  need  to 

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<v Emilie Bellet>have  a  plan.  We  talked  about  this  also  in  the 

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<v Emilie Bellet>first  episode.  You  need  to  have  an  emergency  fund.  You 

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<v Emilie Bellet>don't  want  to  have  a  lot  of  debts  that  are 

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<v Emilie Bellet>very  costly.  You  have  a  plan  why  you are  investing,  for your 

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<v Emilie Bellet>investing  for  the  medium  term,  for  the  long  term, maybe  for 

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<v Emilie Bellet>retirement.  Once  you  have  your  plan,  you  will  need  to 

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<v Emilie Bellet>pick  a  platform.  This  can  be  quite  overwhelming.  The  platforms 

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<v Emilie Bellet>are a  little  bit  like  a  shop  where  you  will  be 

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<v Emilie Bellet>able  to  buy  your  investments.
 If  you're  a  complete  beginner, 

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<v Emilie Bellet>I  will  look  at  a  platform  that  will  manage  your 

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<v Emilie Bellet>investments  on  your  behalf.  You  may  have  heard  of  robo-

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<v Emilie Bellet>investing,  for  example,  of  robo- advice,  also  some  maybe  ready-

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<v Emilie Bellet>made  portfolios  that  could  be  managed  for  you.  So  basically 

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<v Emilie Bellet>the  platform  will  look  at  your  goals  and  they  will 

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<v Emilie Bellet>suggest  a  portfolio  for  you  that will  have  a  mix  of 

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<v Emilie Bellet>equities,  that  will  have  a  mix  of  bonds  and  a 

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<v Emilie Bellet>little  bit  of  cash.  And  by  investing,  there's  a  lot 

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<v Emilie Bellet>of  investors  like  you,  and  you're  going  to  be  put 

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<v Emilie Bellet>into  one  of these portfolios.  So  that's  a  very  easy  way  to 

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<v Emilie Bellet>get  started  with  a  minimum  knowledge.
 If you are  a  more  advanced 

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<v Emilie Bellet>investor,  you  may  want  to  customize  this  portfolio.  You  may  think, "

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<v Emilie Bellet>Oh,  I  really  like  this  industry.  I  like  these  funds. 

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<v Emilie Bellet>I  want  to  follow  the  market."  So  you  can  look 

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<v Emilie Bellet>at  buying  yourself,  investing  via  funds  or  maybe  via  individual 

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<v Emilie Bellet>investments,  even  if  it's  usually  a  lot  more  riskier  to 

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<v Emilie Bellet>buy  single  stocks than buying  by  funds.  So  this  is  the  platform, 

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<v Emilie Bellet>so  you  can  look  at  either  something  that's  managed  for 

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<v Emilie Bellet>you,  a  robo  or a  DIY  platform.
 Once  you're  on  this 

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<v Emilie Bellet>platform,  the  first  thing  you  need  is  some kind  of  an 

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<v Emilie Bellet>umbrella.  We  call  it  an  account.  And  when  you  invest, 

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<v Emilie Bellet>you  can  look  at  two  different  accounts  usually  that  are 

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<v Emilie Bellet>tax  efficient.  It's  very  important  to  look  at  tax  efficiency, 

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<v Emilie Bellet>so  using  your  allowance  first  maybe  for  your  pension.  You 

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<v Emilie Bellet>may  have  a  workplace  pension,  but  you  could  also  have 

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<v Emilie Bellet>a  personal  pension  or  SIPP,  self- invested  personal  pension,  and 

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<v Emilie Bellet>the  other  account  is  a  Stocks  and  Shares  ISA.  So 

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<v Emilie Bellet>there's  different  accounts  that  you  can  look  into.
 Once  you've 

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<v Emilie Bellet>chosen  this  account,  it's  a  matter  of  you  putting  some 

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<v Emilie Bellet>money  into  your  account,  and  then  this  money  will  be 

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<v Emilie Bellet>invested  in  the  stock  market.  With  the  robo,  that's  going 

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<v Emilie Bellet>to  be  made  automatically  for  you  in  a  selection  of 

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<v Emilie Bellet>funds.  And  if  you're  investing  with  a  DIY  platform,  then 

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<v Emilie Bellet>you'll  have  to  pick  your  investments.  So  that  could  be 

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<v Emilie Bellet>a  little  bit  tricky,  so  maybe  you  start  with  the 

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<v Emilie Bellet>robo  and  later  on  you  can  move  to  a  DIY 

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<v Emilie Bellet>investment  platform.  With  the  DIY  investment  platform,  this  is  a 

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<v Emilie Bellet>little  bit  like  a  supermarket.  And  you'll  have  a  lot, 

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<v Emilie Bellet>like  tens  of  thousands  of  funds  and  stocks.  So  you 

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<v Emilie Bellet>will  need  a  little  bit  more  knowledge,  but  at  least 

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<v Emilie Bellet>it's  a  little  bit  more  flexible.

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<v Iona Bain>So  that  gives  people  a  really  good  idea  of  what 

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<v Iona Bain>they  need  to  think  about  if  they're  getting  started.  How 

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<v Iona Bain>would  you  go  about  building  your  portfolio  step  by  step, 

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<v Iona Bain>and  what  does  good  investing  look  like  in  practice?

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<v Emilie Bellet>I  think  there's  not  one  way  to  invest,  but  you 

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<v Emilie Bellet>have  to  really  remind  yourself.  Why  are  you  investing  money? You're 

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<v Emilie Bellet>investing  money  because  you  want  to  grow  your  money  over 

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<v Emilie Bellet>time,  you  want  to  achieve  your  goals,  you  want  to 

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<v Emilie Bellet>beat  inflation.  So  once  you  have  your  cash  savings  and 

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<v Emilie Bellet>you're  looking  at  investing  a  little  bit  of  your  money, 

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<v Emilie Bellet>how  do  you  start  picking  your  portfolio?  I  think  there's 

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<v Emilie Bellet>this  notion  of  risk  that's  introduced  when  you  talk  about 

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<v Emilie Bellet>investments  that  you  didn't  necessarily  have  with  cash  savings.
 So 

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<v Emilie Bellet>what  does  it  mean  to  actually  take  risk?  That  can 

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<v Emilie Bellet>scare  people,  and  especially  women  in the  investment  community  say, " But 

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<v Emilie Bellet>I  don't  want  to  lose  money."  So  risk  is  not 

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<v Emilie Bellet>about  losing  money.  I'd  love  to  reframe  risk  a  little 

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<v Emilie Bellet>bit.  And  for  me,  risk  is  also  an  opportunity.  When 

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<v Emilie Bellet>you  have  money in  a  cash  savings,  you're  not  getting  a 

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<v Emilie Bellet>lot  of  interest  for  your  money.  So  when  you  move 

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<v Emilie Bellet>your  money  into  investing,  it's  because  you  think  you  could 

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<v Emilie Bellet>get  a  higher  rate  of  return ...  nothing  is  guaranteed,  of 

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<v Emilie Bellet>course ...  but  with  taking  a  little  bit  more  risk.  So 

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<v Emilie Bellet>that's  important  when  you  build  up  your  portfolio,  that  you 

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<v Emilie Bellet>understand  the  relationship  between  risk  and  what  you  actually  put 

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<v Emilie Bellet>into  your  portfolio.
 So  if  we  look  at  the  components 

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<v Emilie Bellet>on  a  typical  stock  market  portfolio,  you  will  have  the 

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<v Emilie Bellet>first  category  that  we  call  stocks.  So  stocks  are  little 

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<v Emilie Bellet>pieces  of  companies.  So  when  you  buy  a  stock,  you 

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<v Emilie Bellet>own  a  small  part  of  a  company.  And  how  do 

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<v Emilie Bellet>you  make  money?  Maybe  these  companies  grow,  they  hire  amazing 

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<v Emilie Bellet>managers,  they  make  great  decisions.  People  have  a  very  positive 

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<v Emilie Bellet>view  about  the  company.  The  value  of  the  companies  grows, 

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<v Emilie Bellet>the  stock  price  goes  up,  and  that's  one  way  to 

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<v Emilie Bellet>make  money.  Companies  may  also  generate  a  lot  of  cash 

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<v Emilie Bellet>and  they  can  start  paying  what  we  call  dividends,  so you also 

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<v Emilie Bellet>get  some  income.  So  that's  how  stock  works.
 Now,  you 

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<v Emilie Bellet>don't  need  to  invest  in  individual  stocks,  but  you  can 

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<v Emilie Bellet>find  funds.  So  instead  of  buying  stock  into  one  company, 

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<v Emilie Bellet>you invest  via  a  fund  and  you  will  get  like  hundreds 

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<v Emilie Bellet>of  different  companies,  500  companies,  and  that's  going  to  be 

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<v Emilie Bellet>an  amazing  way  to  diversify.  So  again,  putting  your  money 

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<v Emilie Bellet>into  a  lot  of  different  things.  So  if  this  one 

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<v Emilie Bellet>company  I  invest  in  fails,  then  I  have  like  499 

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<v Emilie Bellet>other  companies  that  will  support  my  portfolio,  so  that's  your 

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<v Emilie Bellet>first  category,  shares.
 The  second  one  is  bonds,  and  bonds 

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<v Emilie Bellet>are  loans  to  companies  or  government,  and  they're  usually  here 

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<v Emilie Bellet>in  your  portfolio  for  a  little  bit  more  stability.  So 

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<v Emilie Bellet>they  will  react  differently  to  market  fluctuation,  so  that's  why 

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<v Emilie Bellet>it's  important  that  in  your  portfolio  you  have  shares  that 

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<v Emilie Bellet>will  grow  quicker,  or  potentially,  but they are also  more  risky,  and  bonds, 

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<v Emilie Bellet>that  tend  to  be  a  bit  less  risky  with  a 

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<v Emilie Bellet>slightly  lower  growth.
 So  when  people  put  together  a  portfolio ... and 

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<v Emilie Bellet>that  could  be  on  robo- advisors,  that  could  be  yourself ... 

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<v Emilie Bellet>you're  trying  to  have  the  proportion  of  shares,  of  equities, 

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<v Emilie Bellet>and  of  bonds  in  your  portfolio.  The  portfolio  have  a 

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<v Emilie Bellet>higher  risk  when  there's  more  equities,  and  you  could  see 

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<v Emilie Bellet>portfolios  that  are  100%  equities.  They  tend  to  be  very 

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<v Emilie Bellet>risky,  and  portfolios  that  have  a  mix  of  bonds  and 

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<v Emilie Bellet>equities  and  the  more  bonds,  there's  less  risk.  It  lowers 

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<v Emilie Bellet>your  risk.  Also  you  could  have  cash  in  portfolios,  and 

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<v Emilie Bellet>that  will  lower  your  risk.
 So  when  you're  trying  to 

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<v Emilie Bellet>find  out  the  level  of  risk,  it's  really  trying  to 

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<v Emilie Bellet>find  the  right  portfolio.  So  if  I'm  quite  young,  I 

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<v Emilie Bellet>can  usually  take  more  risk.  Why  is  that?  Because  if 

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<v Emilie Bellet>there  are  market  fluctuations,  I  will  have  more  time  for 

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<v Emilie Bellet>my  money  to  recover  until  I  need  the  money,  if 

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<v Emilie Bellet>we're  talking  about  retirement,  for  example.  So  if  you're in  your 

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<v Emilie Bellet>20s,  you  could  probably  take  a  little  bit  more  risk 

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<v Emilie Bellet>than  someone  who  is  in  their  50s  or  60s,  who 

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<v Emilie Bellet>sees  retirement  very  close  and  needs  to  change  their  portfolio 

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<v Emilie Bellet>to  have  maybe  a  lower  allocation  to  equities,  maybe  bigger 

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<v Emilie Bellet>on  bonds  and  cash,  because  they  want  more  certainty.  So 

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<v Emilie Bellet>that's  going  to  be  the  main  thing  when  you  look 

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<v Emilie Bellet>at  building  a  portfolio.  And  whether  you  do  it  yourself, 

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<v Emilie Bellet>whether  you  use  a  robo- advisor,  it's  really  trying  to 

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<v Emilie Bellet>keep  in  mind  how  I  build  these  portfolios.

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<v Iona Bain>And  can  you  just  explain,  for  anyone  who  doesn't  know 

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<v Iona Bain>what  equities  are?

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<v Emilie Bellet>So  the  term  equities  means  that  we're  looking  at  buying 

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<v Emilie Bellet>small  pieces  of  companies.  You  will  sometimes  hear  the  term 

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<v Emilie Bellet>shares  or  stock,  so  this  is  really  looking  at  buying  companies.

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<v Iona Bain>And  people  might  have  heard  vaguely  of  this  idea  of 

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<v Iona Bain>active  investing  versus  passive  investing.  Could  you  just  unpack  what 

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<v Iona Bain>those  mean  and  why  you  need  to  understand  the  difference 

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<v Iona Bain>between  them?

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<v Emilie Bellet>So  when  you  invest,  there's  two  ways  to  build  these 

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<v Emilie Bellet>portfolios  and  to  invest.  So  if  you're  a  passive  investor, 

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<v Emilie Bellet>it  means  that  you  just  want  to  follow  the  market. 

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<v Emilie Bellet>And  the  market  is  a  collection  of  companies  in  different 

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<v Emilie Bellet>industries,  in  different  geographies,  and  you're  trying  to  get  the 

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<v Emilie Bellet>market  return.  So  when  you're  a  passive  investor,  you  can 

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<v Emilie Bellet>invest  into  a  selection  of  funds  or  you  could  have 

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<v Emilie Bellet>a  very  broad  multi- asset  fund,  index  funds.  Ideally,  it's 

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<v Emilie Bellet>a  low- cost  fund  also  that  doesn't  cost  you  a 

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<v Emilie Bellet>lot  of  money.  And  then  this  way,  you're  going  to 

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<v Emilie Bellet>invest  in  the  whole  market,  and  you're  not  necessarily  going 

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<v Emilie Bellet>to  adjust  your  investment  when  something  happens.
 Now,  you  could 

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<v Emilie Bellet>also  be  a  more  active  investor,  and  someone  who's  an 

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<v Emilie Bellet>active  investor  means  they're  going  to  pick  and  choose  what 

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<v Emilie Bellet>they  want  in  their  portfolio.  So  they  won't  necessarily  try 

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<v Emilie Bellet>to  get  the  market  return,  but  they  will  try  to 

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<v Emilie Bellet>beat  the  market.  It's  not  always  going  to  be  the 

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<v Emilie Bellet>case,  because  as  we  know,  when  we  want  to  become 

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<v Emilie Bellet>active  investors,  it's  going  to  take  us  so  much  time 

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<v Emilie Bellet>to  research.  Some  people,  it's  their  full- time  job  to 

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<v Emilie Bellet>actually  be  active  investors.  So  I  would  recommend  from  anyone 

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<v Emilie Bellet>who's  a  beginner,  who's  starting  to  invest,  or  also  who's 

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<v Emilie Bellet>been  investing  for  a  little  while,  the  passive  approach  is 

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<v Emilie Bellet>actually  really  helpful  in  terms  of  also  not  reacting  to 

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<v Emilie Bellet>market  fluctuation,  having  a  long- term  approach,  and  letting  your 

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<v Emilie Bellet>investments  actually  do  the  work  over  a  longer  period  of  time.

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<v Iona Bain>And  in  the  past  10 or 20  years,  we've  seen  a  lot 

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<v Iona Bain>of  passive  investment  funds,  like  index  funds  and  exchange- traded 

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<v Iona Bain>funds,  become  a  lot  more  popular,  especially  with  beginner  investors. 

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<v Iona Bain>Why  is  that?

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<v Emilie Bellet>So  I  think  investing  via  funds,  it's  such  a  great 

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<v Emilie Bellet>way  to  get  what  we  want,  is  this  diversification  also. 

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<v Emilie Bellet>So  not  having  just  one  investment  into  one  stock  or 

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<v Emilie Bellet>one  bond,  but  actually  buying  a  collection  of  investments.  That's 

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<v Emilie Bellet>what  you  want  for  your  portfolio,  is  making  sure  you 

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<v Emilie Bellet>have  a  little  bit  of  everything  of  every  asset  classes. 

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<v Emilie Bellet>So  these  types  of  funds  are  now  widely  available  on 

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<v Emilie Bellet>platforms  and  you  could  find  index  funds  that  will  track 

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<v Emilie Bellet>the  whole  market,  but  you  could  also  find  funds  that 

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<v Emilie Bellet>will  track  just  a  specific  industry  or  will  track  a 

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<v Emilie Bellet>specific  geography.
 So  that's  really  interesting  in  terms  of  you 

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<v Emilie Bellet>trying  to  get  exposed  to  these  industries  via  funds,  and 

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<v Emilie Bellet>you  won't  have  just  one  investment,  but  you will  have  a 

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<v Emilie Bellet>lot  of  investments.  So  again,  these  funds  will  always  try 

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<v Emilie Bellet>to  take  the  best  in  their  markets  or  the  top 

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<v Emilie Bellet>performance  in  their  market.  Some  index  funds  will  look  at 

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<v Emilie Bellet>the  biggest  companies.

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<v Iona Bain>Could  we  just  explain  what  an  index  is,  in  case 

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<v Iona Bain>people  aren't  sure?

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<v Emilie Bellet>So  an  index  is  just  a  way  to  follow  maybe 

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<v Emilie Bellet>the  top  companies  in  the  market.  And  this  way,  when 

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<v Emilie Bellet>you  invest  via  an  index  fund,  for  example,  or via an  ETF, 

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<v Emilie Bellet>you're  getting  a  collection  of  a  lot  of  investments  of 

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<v Emilie Bellet>a  lot  of  companies  instead  of  just  going  and  buying 

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<v Emilie Bellet>one  company.  And  that  gives  you  something  that's  going  to 

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<v Emilie Bellet>help  your  investment  return  over  a  longer  period  of  time, 

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<v Emilie Bellet>which  is  diversification.  That's  going  to  help  manage  your  risk, 

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<v Emilie Bellet>because  your  investments  will  be  spread  into  a  lot  of 

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<v Emilie Bellet>different  smaller  investments.

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<v Iona Bain>So  the FTSE  100,  for  example,  is  an  index  that  people 

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<v Iona Bain>could  follow  if  they  wanted  to.  And  you  do  hear 

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<v Iona Bain>about  people  making  a  lot  of  money  by  investing  just 

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<v Iona Bain>in  five  or  ten  really  hot  companies.  And  I  think 

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<v Iona Bain>back  to  the  2010s  and  the  FANGs,  Facebook,  Amazon,  Netflix, 

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<v Iona Bain>Google,  and  the  idea  that  these  companies  are  all  you 

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<v Iona Bain>ever  need  for  your  investment  portfolio  because  they  just  do 

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<v Iona Bain>so  well,  why  would  you  invest  anywhere  else?  What's  your 

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<v Iona Bain>thinking  today  on  investing  in  hot  companies  like  that,  and 

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<v Iona Bain>not  maybe  looking  at  the  wider  market  and  seeing  what 

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<v Iona Bain>else  there  is  to  offer?

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<v Emilie Bellet>So  I  mean,  I've  made  this  mistake  myself  of  trying 

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<v Emilie Bellet>to  pick  individual  companies, and  that's  actually  really  risky.  So  you're 

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<v Emilie Bellet>hoping  for  higher  return,  but  it's  quite  concentrated.  And  with 

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<v Emilie Bellet>being  more  concentrated,  you  also  increase  your  level  of  risk. 

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<v Emilie Bellet>So if  you  just  have  three,  four  companies,  one  of  them 

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<v Emilie Bellet>fails,  then  that's  a  big  part  of  your  portfolio.  Then 

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<v Emilie Bellet>you  have  to  know  that  some  of  the  big  tech 

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<v Emilie Bellet>companies,  for  example,  today,  they  make  most  of  the  larger 

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<v Emilie Bellet>index  funds  and  markets.  So  even  when  you  invest  into 

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<v Emilie Bellet>these  index  funds,  you're  going  to  get  exposure  to  this 

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<v Emilie Bellet>company.
 If  there's  some  companies  you  really  want  to  invest 

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<v Emilie Bellet>in,  either  you  look  at  some  indices  that  will  hold 

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<v Emilie Bellet>these  companies ...  they  will  have  them  as  a  holding,  and 

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<v Emilie Bellet>then  by  investing  into  the  whole  fund,  you  will  have 

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<v Emilie Bellet>exposure  to  these  companies ...  or  otherwise  you  keep  it  maybe 

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<v Emilie Bellet>as  a  small  portion  of  your  overall  portfolio.  So  you 

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<v Emilie Bellet>still  get  the  exposure,  but  that's  not  going  to  be 

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<v Emilie Bellet>100%  of  your  exposure  into  a  selection  of  companies.

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<v Iona Bain>That's  really  good  advice.  So  let's  just  talk  about  reviewing 

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<v Iona Bain>our  investments  and  pensions  and  how  often  we  should  do 

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<v Iona Bain>that,  whether  we  should  think  about  rebalancing  at  certain  points 

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<v Iona Bain>in  our  life,  how  we  can  rebalance  without  panicking  or 

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<v Iona Bain>harming  our  returns.

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<v Emilie Bellet>So  rebalancing  is  quite  interesting,  is  when  you've  built  your 

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<v Emilie Bellet>initial  portfolio,  remember  that  you  had  equities  and  you  had 

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<v Emilie Bellet>bonds  in  your  portfolio.  Because  stocks,  equities ...  we  can  use 

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<v Emilie Bellet>the  same  term ...  they  tend  to  grow  faster,  over  a 

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<v Emilie Bellet>slightly  long  period  of  time,  you  will  see  that  your 

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<v Emilie Bellet>allocation  is  changing.  So  if  you  add  maybe  50%  of 

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<v Emilie Bellet>equities  and  50%  of  bonds,  you'll  see  that  maybe  this 

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<v Emilie Bellet>50%  is  now  60%  or  70%.  And  what  you  want 

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<v Emilie Bellet>to  do  with  rebalancing,  it  means  that  you  have  to 

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<v Emilie Bellet>sell  some  of  these  stocks,  equities,  and  add  more  bonds, 

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<v Emilie Bellet>so  basically  come  back  to  the  original  allocation.  If you want to do that, if  it's 

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<v Emilie Bellet>still  in  line  with  your  goals,  so  this  is  why 

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<v Emilie Bellet>we  rebalance  portfolios,  so  that's  the  term.  If  you're  investing 

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<v Emilie Bellet>with  a  robo- advisor  or  something  that's  managed  for  you, 

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<v Emilie Bellet>this  rebalancing  is  automatically  done  for  you.

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<v Iona Bain>That's  clever.

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<v Emilie Bellet>That's  clever.  And  now  if  you're  doing  it  on  your 

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<v Emilie Bellet>own,  you  have  to  check  that  you're  still  in  line 

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<v Emilie Bellet>and you  have  to  rebalance  yourself.  In  terms  of  reviewing  your 

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<v Emilie Bellet>investments,  this  is  really  personal,  but  I  would  say  don't 

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<v Emilie Bellet>check  every  day,  maybe  not  every  week,  but  maybe  once 

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<v Emilie Bellet>a  year,  twice  a  year,  really  sit  down,  look  at 

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<v Emilie Bellet>your  investments.  I  think  it's  really  important  that  you  check 

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<v Emilie Bellet>your  pensions.  You  check  that  your  contributions  have  been  going 

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<v Emilie Bellet>in,  you  check  the  type  of  funds  you're  investing in.  Is 

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<v Emilie Bellet>it  the  default  funds, or  are  you  actually  allocating  your  money 

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<v Emilie Bellet>yourself?  Reviewing  your  strategy,  reviewing  also  the  fees  on  all 

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<v Emilie Bellet>of  these  platforms.  Unfortunately,  investing  is  never  free,  so  you 

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<v Emilie Bellet>have  to  check  how  much  money  you're  paying,  and  sometimes 

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<v Emilie Bellet>you  need  to  adjust  your  investments  or  you  need  to 

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<v Emilie Bellet>adjust  maybe  the  platform,  how  much  money you're  actually  putting  into 

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<v Emilie Bellet>your  investment  pots.
 And  the  other  thing  is  looking  at 

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<v Emilie Bellet>personal  goals.  Do  you  have  any  major  change  in  your 

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<v Emilie Bellet>life?  Are  you  getting  married?  Do  you  have  kids?  Have 

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<v Emilie Bellet>you  changed  job?  Are  you  now  an  entrepreneur?  This  will 

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<v Emilie Bellet>all  have  an  impact  on  how  much  money  you  make, 

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<v Emilie Bellet>how  much  money  you  save,  and  you  may  want  to 

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<v Emilie Bellet>change  your  allocation.  Maybe  your  goals  have  changed.  So  that's 

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<v Emilie Bellet>really  important,  to  take  the  time  and  look  at  your 

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<v Emilie Bellet>investments  and  look  at  your  whole  financial  life.
 At  Vestpod, 

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<v Emilie Bellet>we  love  the  term  of  having  a  little  money  date 

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<v Emilie Bellet>with  yourself,  so  maybe  once  a  month,  taking  the  time. 

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<v Emilie Bellet>It  could  be  different  things.  It  could  be  listening  to 

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<v Emilie Bellet>a  podcast  about  money  and  investing,  but  it  could  also 

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<v Emilie Bellet>be  looking  at  your  investments,  looking  at  your  pension,  calculating 

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<v Emilie Bellet>your  net  worth,  looking  at  your  budget,  but  really  having 

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<v Emilie Bellet>in  your  calendar  this  time  to  review  regularly  your  investments.

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<v Iona Bain>Money  dates  won't  feel  as  romantic  as  real  dates,  but 

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<v Iona Bain>you  will  feel  a  hell  of  a  lot  better  after 

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<v Iona Bain>you've had a  money  date,  that's  for  sure.  So  what  tools  or 

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<v Iona Bain>approaches  do  you  like  personally  from  managing  investments?

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<v Emilie Bellet>I  think  that  could  be  quite  simple.  Your  investment  app 

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<v Emilie Bellet>or  your  investment  platform  is  already  doing  a  lot  of 

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<v Emilie Bellet>this  for  you,  so  I  think  what  you  need  to 

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<v Emilie Bellet>check  is  that  you're  still  matching  your  goals.  That's  really 

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<v Emilie Bellet>important.  You  need  to  check  the  performance  of  your  investments. 

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<v Emilie Bellet>We've  said,  and  we're  going  to  say  it  again  and 

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<v Emilie Bellet>again,  that  investments  go  up  and  down  over  time  and that 

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<v Emilie Bellet>your  capital  could  be  at  risk,  so  it's  really  checking 

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<v Emilie Bellet>what  has  been  performing,  what  has  been  underperforming,  and  trying 

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<v Emilie Bellet>to  think  about, " Okay,  what  do  I  do  going  forward 

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<v Emilie Bellet>with  these  investments?"  It's  the  diversification,  so  checking  what  have 

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<v Emilie Bellet>you  been  investing  in  sometimes.  You  can  also  check  the 

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<v Emilie Bellet>diversification.
 So  sometimes  we've  been  investing  in  funds  and  we 

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<v Emilie Bellet>start  adding  maybe  a  few  stocks,  and  then  we  realize 

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<v Emilie Bellet>that  we  have  maybe  the  same  investments  in  two  different 

0:17:10.890 --> 0:17:13.200
<v Emilie Bellet>pockets  or  in  two  different  vehicles,  so  it's  making  sure 

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<v Emilie Bellet>we're  still  happy  with  that.  Looking  at  the  fees,  how 

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<v Emilie Bellet>much  have  you  been  paying  to  the  platform  or  how 

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<v Emilie Bellet>much  are  you  paying  to  buy  and  sell  your  investments, 

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<v Emilie Bellet>and  looking  for  duplicate  investments.
 So  I  would  say  it's 

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<v Emilie Bellet>really  about  declaratory  sometimes,  because  as  you  add up and  maybe  a 

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<v Emilie Bellet>lot  of  your  investments  are  automated,  you  may  not  realize 

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<v Emilie Bellet>that  you're  adding  a  little  bit  of  complexity  in  your portfolio. 

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<v Emilie Bellet>So  it's  maybe  taking  a  step  back  and  cleaning  a 

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<v Emilie Bellet>little  bit  your  portfolios.

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<v Iona Bain>So  lots  to  think  about  there.  And  again,  people  will 

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<v Iona Bain>probably  want  to  digest  all  of  this  over  a  cup 

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<v Iona Bain>of  tea  or  coffee.  So  what's  one  quick  thing  that 

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<v Iona Bain>people  could  do  whilst  they  wait  for  their  cuppa  to  boil?

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<v Emilie Bellet>If  you  have  a  little  bit  of  time,  you  should 

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<v Emilie Bellet>think  about  automating  your  investments.  Boring  investing  is  actually  quite 

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<v Emilie Bellet>good,  and  knowing  that  every  month  there's  a  little  bit 

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<v Emilie Bellet>of  money  going  into  a  saving  account  and  an  investing 

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<v Emilie Bellet>account  for  your  future  self  is  actually  super  valuable.

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<v Iona Bain>Yeah.  So  start  that  process  today  and ...

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<v Emilie Bellet>Start small.

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<v Iona Bain>... reap  the  benefits.  Yeah.  Start  small.  Absolutely.  Thank  you  so 

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<v Iona Bain>much,  Emilie.

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<v Emilie Bellet>Thank  you  very  much.

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<v Iona Bain>Well,  that  brings  us  to  the  end  of  our  investing 

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<v Iona Bain>series.  I  hope  it's  empowered  you  to  make  that  next 

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<v Iona Bain>step  in  your  investing  journey,  and  to  remember  it's  all 

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<v Iona Bain>about  creating  wealth  for  future  you.  Of  course,  your  investments 

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<v Iona Bain>can  go  up  as  well  as  down  and  there  are 

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<v Iona Bain>risks  involved.
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