WEBVTT - Automation – The Brain of Industrial Operations

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<v Fran Scott>Hello  and  a  welcome  to  the  Process  Automation  podcast.  A 

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<v Fran Scott>podcast  from  ABB  that  shines  a  light  on  their  process 

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<v Fran Scott>automation  business  area  and  the  work  they're  doing  around  the 

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<v Fran Scott>world.  I'm  Fran  Scott,  maker,  presenter  and  all  around  engineering 

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<v Fran Scott>geek.  And  across  this  series  we've  been  exploring  the  invisible 

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<v Fran Scott>force  of  automation.  So  that's  the  incredible  processes  happening  under 

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<v Fran Scott>the  surface  that  enable  our  day- to- day  lives  from 

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<v Fran Scott>the  heating  in  our  homes  to  the  water  in  our 

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<v Fran Scott>taps,  ABBs  technologies  are  working  behind  the  scenes,  orchestrating  industrial 

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<v Fran Scott>processes,  machinery,  and  systems.  Today  we  are  looking  at  the 

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<v Fran Scott>future  of  process  automation.  For  more  than  a  century,  automation 

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<v Fran Scott>systems  have  been  absolutely  central  to  empowering  industries  that  provide 

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<v Fran Scott>these  basic  building  blocks  of  our  everyday  lives.  From  energy, 

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<v Fran Scott>power,  water,  metals,  minerals,  chemicals,  and  transportation,  and  enabling  them 

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<v Fran Scott>to  scale  to  meet  the  needs  of  a  growing  population.


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<v Fran Scott>For  more  than  40  years,  ABB  has  been  leading  the 

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<v Fran Scott>way  when  it  comes  to  something  called  distributed  control  systems 

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<v Fran Scott>AKA  DCS.  Now  these  are  at  the  heart  of  the 

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<v Fran Scott>largest  and  most  critical  operations  on  our  planet.  Now,  if 

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<v Fran Scott>you  recall  the  first  episode  of  this  series,  I  spoke 

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<v Fran Scott>to  Peter  Turk,  the  president  of  ABB's  process  automation  business 

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<v Fran Scott>area,  and  we  discussed  the  key  role  that  process  automation 

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<v Fran Scott>is  playing  in  making  the  world  safer,  more  efficient,  and 

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<v Fran Scott>increasingly  sustainable.  Now,  Peter  introduced  us  to  many  of  the 

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<v Fran Scott>industries  that  are  benefiting  from  ABB's  work  in  process  automation, 

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<v Fran Scott>and  over  this  series  we  have  put  those  under  the 

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<v Fran Scott>microscope.  Industries  like  shipping  and  water  to  mining  and  continuous 

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<v Fran Scott>emissions  monitoring.  Today  we  are  going  to  dive  deeper  into 

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<v Fran Scott>the  driving  force  behind  process  automation  and  find  out  exactly 

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<v Fran Scott>how  distributed  control  systems  are  transforming  the  future  of  so 

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<v Fran Scott>many  industries.  To  do  this,  we'll  be  speaking  to  Mike 

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<v Fran Scott>Williams  from  Modern  Automation  Consultant  Services  based  in  Boston  about 

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<v Fran Scott>the  workforce  of  tomorrow.  But  first  we'll  hear  from  Bernhard 

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<v Fran Scott>Eschermann,  chief  Technology  Officer  for  ABB's  process  automation  business  area 

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<v Fran Scott>about  the  development  and  trends  that  ABB  predict  will  impact 

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<v Fran Scott>automation  in  the  future.  I  started  by  asking  him  where 

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<v Fran Scott>exactly  it  is  that  we  see  process  automation.

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>If  you  look  at  the  industries  that  we  serve,  like 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>energy,  power,  water,  metals,  chemicals,  farmer,  and  so  on,  typically 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>they  operate  around  the  clock  either  with  a  continuous  production 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>flow  or  running  a  sequence  of  production  batches.  So  for 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>example,  if  you  open  the  water  tap  at  home,  you 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>just  expect  water  to  flow  all  the  time  and  without 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>interruption.  And  while  all  of  these  commodities  are  central  to 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>our  everyday  lives,  they're  actually  provided  with  a  relatively  small 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>number  of  people  running  such  facilities  around  the  clock.  And 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>the  automation  systems  thus  provide  a  large  and  growing  well 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>population  with  a  reliable  and  cost- effective  supply  of  these 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>basic  needs.  And  they  optimize  productivity,  ensure  product  quality,  reduce 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>risks  to  people  and  the  environment and  optimize  resource  and  energy  consumption.

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<v Fran Scott>Got  you,  just  a  few  things  there that they do, but let's focus in  on  the  distributed 

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<v Fran Scott>control system.  So  DCSs,  so  can  you  tell  me  a  bit 

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<v Fran Scott>more  about  how  they  work?

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>Obviously,  it's a  very  abstract  subject,  so  I  always  try  to 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>compare  that  with  something  that  people  know.  And  the  thing 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>that  people  usually  know  best  is  their  own  body,  and 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>the  automation  system  is  like  the  nervous  system  and  the 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>brain  of  the  human  body.  So  it  collects  sensory  information 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>from  all  parts  of  the  body  and  triggers  certain  reactions. 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>Industrial  plants  are  obviously  much  bigger  than  human  body  and 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>thus  the  nervous  system  in  the  brain  are  distributed  over 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>this  large  expands,  which  is  why  the  automation  system  for 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>such  industries  is  known  as  distributed  control  system  or  in 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>short  DCS.  And  if  you  look  at  these  distributed  control 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>systems,  they  can  be  found  pretty  much  anywhere  in  industry 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>where  critical  processes  need  to  be  monitored  or  controlled,  and 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>the  sensors  that  they  rely  on  our  instruments  measuring  properties 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>like  temperature,  pressure  or  flow,  and  the  muscles,  if  you 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>compare  that  with  the  human  body  that  they  use  to 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>control  the  plant  or  industrial  equipment  like  motors,  valves,  pumps, 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>stuff  like  that.
 And  in  a  larger  industrial  plant,  you've 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>got  tens  of  thousands  of  such  sensors  and  actuators.  Now 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>in  between  you've  got  communication  networks  and  industrial  grade  computers, 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>and  they  actually  decide  on  what  needs  to  be  done. 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>As  an  example,  to  ensure  the  safety  of  a  process, 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>you  might  measure  the  pressure  in  the  tank  and  the 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>computer  would  reduce  the  flow  into  the  tank  and  increase 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>the  flow out  of  the  tank  by  communicating  appropriate  signals  to 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>the  equipment  connected  with  the  pipes  going  in and out of  the  tank. 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>And  if  the  pressure  becomes  too  high,  obviously  that  might 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>be  dangerous,  and  thus  this  whole  thing  has  to  be 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>done  with  an  extremely  high  reliability  of  the  computer  and 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>the  communication  system,  which  is  why  multiple  redundant  components  might 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>be  used.  They  monitor  each  other  or  are  able  to 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>jump  in  if  needed  and  thus  provide  for  uninterrupted  safe 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>operation.
 You  also  have  all  of  these  different  levels  in 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>industrial  control  system  from  keeping  the  pressure  in  the  reaction 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>vessel  safe  through  controlling  the  overall  reaction  in  the  vessel 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>to  control  the  overall  production  in  a  part  of  the 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>plant  to  coordinate  multiple  plants.  For  example,  you  might  need 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>the  steam  output  from  one  plant  to  feed  production  in 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>another  plant,  and  ultimately  you  have  to  decide  what  specific 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>product  variant  you  want  to  produce  anyway,  some  level  you 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>move  then  from  automation  to  human  decision  making.  At  this 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>interface  between  automation  and  humans,  it's  critical  to  provide  the 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>needed  information  to  human  people,  to  the  plant  operators  and 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>other  staff  through  computer  work  stations  or  so- called  human 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>machine  interfaces,  and  which  are  typically  located  in  a  so-

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>called  controlled  room.  So  it  has  to  enable  a  person 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>to deal with  the  huge  complexity  of  a  plant.  And  another  function 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>needed  in the DCS is  to  allow  for  engineering  changes  as  raw  materials 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>or  production  processes  change  over  time  or  certain  production  equipment 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>is  replaced.  And  by  the  way,  the  control  rooms  do 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>not  necessarily  have  to  be  in  the  plant  like  on 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>an  offshore  gas  platform  in  rough  seas.  Instead,  you  might 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>have  the  operators  sit  in  a  cozy  office  somewhere  on  that.

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<v Fran Scott>In  terms  of  as  industries are  obviously  developing,  how  does  a 

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<v Fran Scott>distributed  control  system  support  them?  I  suppose  as  they're  going 

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<v Fran Scott>through  this  fourth  industrial  revolution and  what  I  see  as  this 

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<v Fran Scott>up  and  coming  fifth  industrial  revolution,  what  is  the  role 

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<v Fran Scott>of  the  DCS  in  supporting  these  changes?

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>If  you  look  at  these  process plants, they live quite a long  time and  you  don't  tear 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>down  and  rebuild  a  chemical  plant  every  five  years.  While 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>on  the  other  hand,  you  actually  have  a  couple  of 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>Windows  versions  during  the  same  timeframe.  At  the  same  time, 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>market  requirements  influencing  what  exactly  should  be  produced  are  changing 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>more  and  more  quickly.  And  so  customers  need  to  renew 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>technology  to  stay  competitive,  but  with  this  24/ 7  production, 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>they  also  want  to  keep  producing  continuously  while  technology  might 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>be  updated,  even  if  it's  only  for  the  newest  cybersecurity 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>patches.  And  ABB  has  always  provided  new  capabilities  to  meet 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>these  changing  needs  of  the  time  while  preserving  the  investments 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>that  customers  have  already  made  in  their  plants.  That's  one 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>of  the  reasons  I  guess  that  ABB  has  built  and 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>maintained  the  leadership  position  in  DCS  over  the  last  40 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>years  and  has  been  a  number  one  choice  according  to 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>market  analysis  for  more  than  20  years.
 If  you  look 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>in  the  future,  one  of  the  newer  development  central  to 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>the  fourth  industrial  revolution  is  a  much  higher  level  of 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>flexibility.  For  example,  you  want  to  produce  personalized  medication  that 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>is  not  the  standard  medication  for  everybody,  but  just  for 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>one  person.  We've  also  been  working  on  the  use  of 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>artificial  intelligence  and  machine  learning  to  augment  human's  capabilities  for 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>decision  making  that  allow  them  to  focus  on  the  higher 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>level  decisions  that  I  described.  Another  development  that  we've  been 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>supporting  is  the  digitalization  of  industries.  With  the  control  system 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>having  all  of  these  inputs  from  the  sensors,  there  are 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>huge  amounts  of  data  available  on  the  operation  of  a 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>plant.  And  an  obvious  move  is  to  bring  the  data 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>out  of  the  control  system  to  analyze  it  based  on 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>this  to  optimize  the  overall  production  or  the  energy  efficiency 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>or  whatever  of  the  production.  And  in  order  to  combine 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>the  ability  to  adapt  to  these  technologies  quickly  while  having 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>a  very  reliable  production  that  should  not  be  interrupted,  our 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>concept  is  to  have  a  very  stable  and  robust  inner 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>core  of  the  system  that  can  be  extended  however,  by 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>additional  capabilities  without  creating  risks  on  the  basic  operations  and 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>their  safety.

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<v Fran Scott>With  all  the  changes  that  we're  seeing  in  the  industry 

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<v Fran Scott>and  technology,  we  are  already  seeing  I  suppose  a  new 

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<v Fran Scott>generation  of  digital  industrial  workforce  so  people,  so  could  you 

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<v Fran Scott>tell  me  how  this  digital  workforce  are  influencing  the  developments 

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<v Fran Scott>of  future  distributed  control  systems?  So  what  are  they  seeing 

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<v Fran Scott>that's  happening  now  and  how  are  they,  I  suppose,  swaying 

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<v Fran Scott>the  developments  of  the future?

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>Yeah. If  I  look  at  my  children,  and  that's  probably  true 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>for  a  lot  of  this  generation  Y  or  the  generation 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>Z  employees,  they  are  digital  natives  that  are  used  to 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>interact  with  technology  without  ever  reading  a  manual  or  going 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>through  a  training.  And  on  the  other  hand,  they  don't 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>have  the 20 to  30  year  experience  that  the  baby  boomers  have 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>accumulated  that  have  been  operating  these  plants  over  the  last 20, 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>30  years.  And  thus,  the  automation  system  has  to  provide 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>support  and  interaction  patterns  that  this  generation  is  used  to 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>as  an  example,  rather  than  people  scanning  through  long  alarm 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>lists,  the  system  has  to  identify  critical  situations  by  finding 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>anomalies  autonomously,  by  looking  at  the  data  stream,  dig  out 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>automatically  what  mitigated  such  a  situation  in  the  past,  and 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>maybe  offer  the  operator  to  also  simulate  the  result  of 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>an  action  before  actually  doing  something.  And  this  is  exactly 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>where  AI and  machine  learning  in  today's  technology  can  help.

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<v Fran Scott>There  is  no  doubt  that we are  seeing  machine  learning  and  AI 

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<v Fran Scott>integrated  into  our  lives,  and  as  we  look  to  the 

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<v Fran Scott>future,  we  can  see  that  how  we  work  is  also 

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<v Fran Scott>changing.  I  spoke  to  Mike  Williams  from  Modern  Automation  Consultant 

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<v Fran Scott>Services  to  ask  where  process  automation  and  distributed  control  systems 

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<v Fran Scott>come  into  this?

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<v Mike Williams>It's  very  important  when  you  look  at  autonomous  operations,  essentially 

0:13:13.950 --> 0:13:17.819
<v Mike Williams>taking  yourself  on  a  journey  from  manual  to  automated  and 

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<v Mike Williams>ultimately  fully  autonomous  solutions,  you  must  look  at  that  as 

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<v Mike Williams>an  investment  and  future  proofing  means  making  sure  that  that 

0:13:26.460 --> 0:13:31.080
<v Mike Williams>investment  is  spent  wisely.  The  definition  of  future  proofing  is 

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<v Mike Williams>the  ability  to  expand  and  adapt  to  the  business  changes 

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<v Mike Williams>without  wholesale  rip  and  replacement  of  those  legacy  systems.  This 

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<v Mike Williams>is  very  important  from  an  economic  standpoint.  It  permits  the 

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<v Mike Williams>end  user  or  customer  to  implement  new  or  upgrade  old 

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<v Mike Williams>functionality  incrementally,  no  big  bangs  here,  investment  incrementally  to  achieve 

0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:59.760
<v Mike Williams>business  requirements,  which  do  change  over  time.  Future  proofing  allows 

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<v Mike Williams>the  business  to  lower  the  business  risk  and  increase  the 

0:14:02.580 --> 0:14:08.189
<v Mike Williams>return  on  investment  without  the  fear  of  becoming  obsolete  or  non- competitive.

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<v Fran Scott>So  what  you're  saying  is  the  DCS  in  a  way 

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<v Fran Scott>laser  a  digital  foundation  that  can  then  be  added  to 

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<v Fran Scott>bit  by  bit  as  new  technology  comes  on  the  scene?

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<v Mike Williams>That's  absolutely  correct.  And  fundamentally,  the  attributes  of a  future- proof 

0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:34.230
<v Mike Williams>system  address  the  issues  of  horizontal  and  vertical  integration,  specifically 

0:14:34.230 --> 0:14:38.670
<v Mike Williams>horizontally  the  ability  to  scale  or  add  to  shop  floor 

0:14:38.670 --> 0:14:45.180
<v Mike Williams>devices  over  time,  and  also  vertical  integration  or  extensibility  upward 

0:14:45.270 --> 0:14:50.040
<v Mike Williams>from  sensor  to  the  boardroom  from  a  communications  application  interaction 

0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:54.420
<v Mike Williams>capability.  This  interaction  may  involve  not  only  the  shop  floor, 

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<v Mike Williams>but  it  may  involve  design,  engineering,  supply  chain,  financial,  and 

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<v Mike Williams>even  research  and  development.

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<v Fran Scott>So  what  you're  saying  is  there's  this  holistic  approach,  all 

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<v Fran Scott>levels  of  technology  and  all  levels  of  people  as  well 

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<v Fran Scott>I  suppose  because  along  with  the  changes  in  industry  and 

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<v Fran Scott>technology,  we  are  already  seeing  the  workforce  adapting  into,  I 

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<v Fran Scott>suppose,  the  next  generation  of  digital  industrial  workforce.  So  how 

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<v Fran Scott>are  the  developments  in  the  technology  changing  the  industrial  workforce 

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<v Fran Scott>so  changing  the  people  themselves,  I  suppose?

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<v Mike Williams>You've  probably  heard  of  something  called  the  Industrial  Revolution 4.0  or 

0:15:36.150 --> 0:15:40.890
<v Mike Williams>Industry  4. 0.  We've  entered  a  new  age  of  digital 

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<v Mike Williams>transformation  where  computers  are  fundamentally  being  substituted  for  actual  human 

0:15:46.770 --> 0:15:50.910
<v Mike Williams>beings.  This  is  because  of  the  need  or  requirement  for 

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<v Mike Williams>higher  computational  and  communications  capabilities.  And  the  question  that  you're 

0:15:56.490 --> 0:15:59.790
<v Mike Williams>asking  is  how  do  we  navigate  from  what  is a  human-

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<v Mike Williams>centric  environment  forward  into  a  computer  centric  or  autonomous  plant 

0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:10.800
<v Mike Williams>operations  environment  using  the  new  technologies?  Quite  honestly,  the  result 

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<v Mike Williams>of  digital  transformation  simply  is  that  physical  tasks  are  being 

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<v Mike Williams>replaced  with  logical  execution  executed  by  remote  devices.  So  simply 

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<v Mike Williams>put  the  answer  is  traditional  operators  are  now  going  to 

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<v Mike Williams>become  knowledge  workers,  and  these  knowledge  workers  will  be  using 

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<v Mike Williams>computers  augmenting  their  human  cognitive  abilities  to  solve  very  complex 

0:16:36.060 --> 0:16:39.390
<v Mike Williams>problems  which  they  could  not  solve  on  their  own.  And 

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<v Mike Williams>these  complex  problems  are  situations  like  abnormal  equipment  operation  or 

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<v Mike Williams>suboptimal  situations  where  the  equipment  is  not  performing  as  built 

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<v Mike Williams>well  as  it  could.  With  these  new  digital  transformation  tools 

0:16:53.910 --> 0:16:57.690
<v Mike Williams>and  techniques.  Human  beings  who  are  still  in  the  decision 

0:16:57.690 --> 0:17:02.190
<v Mike Williams>making  loop  can  make  these  decisions  quicker  with  better  accuracy 

0:17:02.220 --> 0:17:07.859
<v Mike Williams>and  less  variability.  Essentially,  you're  translating  less  hands  into  more 

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<v Mike Williams>heads.
 So  the  need  for  human  beings  is  accentuated  and 

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<v Mike Williams>the  span  of  control  of  the  human  operator  is  going 

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<v Mike Williams>to  increase  resulting  in  less  human  error  and  more  importantly, 

0:17:22.230 --> 0:17:27.780
<v Mike Williams>less  human  beings  in  the  hazardous  environments  which  exists  in 

0:17:27.780 --> 0:17:31.740
<v Mike Williams>the  process  industries,  thus  improving  the  quality  of  life  while 

0:17:31.740 --> 0:17:34.379
<v Mike Williams>increasing  in  productivity,  safety,  and  quality.

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<v Fran Scott>And  I  suppose  the  next  stage  of  automation  is  the 

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<v Fran Scott>introduction  of  machine  learning  and  artificial  intelligence. So  how  will  these 

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<v Fran Scott>become  part  of  these  systems?

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<v Mike Williams>That's  a  very  good  question  and  is  not  well  understood 

0:17:51.330 --> 0:17:56.310
<v Mike Williams>in  the  marketplace  today.  I  like  to  use  a  maturity 

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<v Mike Williams>matrix  called  the  level  of  autonomy,  which  starts  with  fundamentally 

0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:05.880
<v Mike Williams>totally  manual  operations  and  evolves  as  DCS  control  systems  have 

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<v Mike Williams>evolved  through  time  over  a  five  distinctive  capabilities  or  levels 

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<v Mike Williams>of  autonomy  from  zero  to  five.  When  you're  talking  about 

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<v Mike Williams>technologies  like  artificial  intelligence  and  machine  learning,  what  you're  trying 

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<v Mike Williams>to  accomplish  is  even  more  sophisticated  tasks  than  simple  loop 

0:18:26.609 --> 0:18:32.910
<v Mike Williams>control  and  understand  the  interdependence  of  equipment  not  only  with 

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<v Mike Williams>the  human  being,  but  machine  to  machine,  using  advanced  mathematics 

0:18:37.530 --> 0:18:42.090
<v Mike Williams>and  statistics  to  predict  the  future,  not  just  the  current 

0:18:42.180 --> 0:18:45.690
<v Mike Williams>situation,  but  predict  the  future  and  be  able  to  optimize 

0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:53.640
<v Mike Williams>the  processes  to  achieve  the  maximum  result.
 An  example  here 

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<v Mike Williams>might  be  quite  useful.  You've  heard  about  autonomous  vehicles,  autonomous 

0:19:00.030 --> 0:19:05.850
<v Mike Williams>automobiles,  multiple  sensing  devices  are  mounted  on  the  car  and 

0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:09.600
<v Mike Williams>continuous  calculations  are  made  to  ensure  that  the  vehicle  operates 

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<v Mike Williams>safely  in  an  optimum  manner.  The  same  example  exists  in 

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<v Mike Williams>the  process  industries,  and  the  objective  here  is  to  use 

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<v Mike Williams>artificial  intelligence  and  machine  learning  to  perform  similar  duties  as 

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<v Mike Williams>an  example,  to  extend  the  meantime  to  failure  of  a 

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<v Mike Williams>piece  of  equipment,  thus  avoiding  unplanned  downtime,  which  disrupts  the 

0:19:32.580 --> 0:19:38.520
<v Mike Williams>customer  fulfillment  process,  minimize  the  maintenance  costs,  and  even  improve 

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<v Mike Williams>the  quality of  the  product  that's  being  manufactured.  Now,  I'd  like 

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<v Mike Williams>to  remind  you  at  this  particular  point  in  time,  one 

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<v Mike Williams>should  always  remember  that  a  sound  level  three  autonomous  DCS 

0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:55.020
<v Mike Williams>foundation  is  required  to  enable  the  advanced  capabilities  of  artificial 

0:19:55.020 --> 0:19:59.040
<v Mike Williams>intelligence  and  machine  learning.  I  have  a  saying  that I like  to 

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<v Mike Williams>tell  my  clients.  Actionable  intelligence  has  zero  value  unless  it 

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<v Mike Williams>is  acted  upon  in  the  correct  context,  in  a  timely 

0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:12.659
<v Mike Williams>manner.  This  is  the  role,  the  action  is  the  role of the 

0:20:12.930 --> 0:20:19.020
<v Mike Williams>DCS,  and  the  intelligence  is  provided  by  artificial  intelligence  and 

0:20:19.020 --> 0:20:20.880
<v Mike Williams>machine  learning  capabilities.

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<v Fran Scott>So  if  we  looked  at  this  I  suppose  zoomed  out, 

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<v Fran Scott>what  are  the  key  benefits  of  all  of  this?

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<v Mike Williams>The  benefits  of  artificial  intelligence  and  machine  learning  are  in 

0:20:35.670 --> 0:20:41.820
<v Mike Williams>the  process  industry,  specifically  related  to  process  safety,  product  quality, 

0:20:42.270 --> 0:20:46.469
<v Mike Williams>the  ability  to  improve  the  productivity  without  eliminating  the  human 

0:20:46.470 --> 0:20:51.330
<v Mike Williams>being,  elevating  the  human  consciousness  and  being  able  to  achieve, 

0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:56.310
<v Mike Williams>most  importantly,  our  sustainability  goals,  which  is  our  right  to 

0:20:56.310 --> 0:21:02.609
<v Mike Williams>operate  or  permit  to  operate.  So  one  of  the  emerging 

0:21:02.609 --> 0:21:06.600
<v Mike Williams>issues  out  there,  benefits  of  higher  levels  of  automation  and 

0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:11.910
<v Mike Williams>artificial  intelligence,  is  to  achieve  our  sustainability  goals  to  protect 

0:21:11.910 --> 0:21:15.359
<v Mike Williams>our  planet.  Let  me  give  you  an  example.  Process  plants 

0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:20.850
<v Mike Williams>are  huge  consumers  of  energy  and  water  resources  required  to 

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<v Mike Williams>sustain  human  life.  Consuming  these  resources  in  a  responsible  manner 

0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:31.920
<v Mike Williams>is  the  objective  of  companies  today.  More  than  80%  of 

0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:37.950
<v Mike Williams>the  C- suite  executive  officers  see  sustainability  is  a  prime 

0:21:37.950 --> 0:21:42.630
<v Mike Williams>objective  of  them  remaining  in  business  and  being  profitable.  To 

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<v Mike Williams>achieve  this  automation  and  an  advanced  autonomous  solutions  like  AI 

0:21:47.820 --> 0:21:51.660
<v Mike Williams>and  machine  learning  are  required  to  meet  these  business  objectives.

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<v Fran Scott>Such  an  important  part  of it, is  sustainability  not  just  from  a 

0:21:55.380 --> 0:21:59.640
<v Fran Scott>planet  friendly  point  of  view,  but  from  a  continuous  production 

0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:02.250
<v Fran Scott>point  of  view  as  well  with  things  like  the  pandemic 

0:22:02.250 --> 0:22:07.260
<v Fran Scott>that  showed  us  that  automating  your  processes  meant  that  they 

0:22:07.260 --> 0:22:10.050
<v Fran Scott>could  continue  in  a  way  that  if  they  were  manual, 

0:22:10.050 --> 0:22:11.010
<v Fran Scott>they  just  wouldn't  be  able  to.

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<v Mike Williams>Right,  the  process  industries  exist  to  improve  the  standard  of 

0:22:17.460 --> 0:22:21.869
<v Mike Williams>living  and  those  things  that  we  enjoy  as  part  of 

0:22:21.869 --> 0:22:27.180
<v Mike Williams>our  livelihoods.  And  to  achieve  this  in  an  economical  way 

0:22:27.900 --> 0:22:33.869
<v Mike Williams>and  meet  the  objectives  of  sustainability,  we  believe  in  the 

0:22:33.869 --> 0:22:40.560
<v Mike Williams>process  industries  that  automation  or  the  in  industrial  re  revolution 

0:22:41.369 --> 0:22:45.990
<v Mike Williams>4.0  is  absolutely  essential.  The  digital  transformation  is  absolutely  essential 

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<v Mike Williams>to  achieve  mankind's  goals.

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<v Fran Scott>I  absolutely  couldn't  agree  more.  And it's  not  just  the  digital 

0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:04.470
<v Fran Scott>workforce  that  process  automation  is  transforming.  This  technology  can  also 

0:23:04.470 --> 0:23:09.210
<v Fran Scott>be  used  for  so  many  industries.  So  it's  back  to 

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<v Fran Scott>Bernhard  for  a  final  word  on  how  a  ABB's  technology 

0:23:13.260 --> 0:23:18.359
<v Fran Scott>is  transforming  industries  from  energy  right  through  to  the  world 

0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:19.110
<v Fran Scott>of  fashion.

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>Obviously,  two  of  the  most  important  topics  to  make  human 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>life  more  sustainable  are  circularity  to  avoid  waste  creation  and 

0:23:30.420 --> 0:23:34.710
<v Bernhard Eschermann>reducing  carbon  emissions  by  increasing  energy  efficiency  and  the  use 

0:23:34.710 --> 0:23:38.820
<v Bernhard Eschermann>of  renewable  energies.  Renew  Cell  is  focused  on  the  first 

0:23:38.820 --> 0:23:43.230
<v Bernhard Eschermann>of  these  aspects.  It's  a  fast  growing  Swedish  company  specializing 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>in  textile  to  textile  recycling.  So  they  close  the  loop 

0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:52.680
<v Bernhard Eschermann>when  garments  are  worn  out  or  no  longer  wanted.  Some 

0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:56.040
<v Bernhard Eschermann>are  obviously  sold  secondhand  or  used  as  hand  me  downs, 

0:23:56.040 --> 0:24:00.570
<v Bernhard Eschermann>but  the  vast  majority  today  ends  up  in  landfills  or 

0:24:00.570 --> 0:24:05.310
<v Bernhard Eschermann>are  incinerated.  And  what  Renew  Cell  is  doing  is  that 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>they  are  changing  that  with  a  new  technology  by  dissolving 

0:24:10.590 --> 0:24:14.580
<v Bernhard Eschermann>the  used  cotton  and  other  natural  fibers  into  a  new 

0:24:14.609 --> 0:24:19.320
<v Bernhard Eschermann>biodegradable  raw  material,  which  is  called  Renew  Cell  pulp.  And 

0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:23.730
<v Bernhard Eschermann>that  can  be  turned  again  into  textile  fiber  and  thus 

0:24:23.730 --> 0:24:28.169
<v Bernhard Eschermann>goes  into this  textile  production  cycle  again.  They  are  using  a 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>number  of  ABB  technologies  among  those  ECS  that  enables  the 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>production  to  be  as  resource  efficient  as  possible  with  less 

0:24:38.190 --> 0:24:40.350
<v Bernhard Eschermann>material  consumption  and  reduced  waste.

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<v Fran Scott>Gosh,  that  sounds  fascinating.  And that is  the  very  definition  of  a 

0:24:45.810 --> 0:24:48.180
<v Fran Scott>circular  economy  right  there,  isn't  it?

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>Yeah.  And  obviously  while  you  circulate  garments  in  this  case, 

0:24:53.700 --> 0:24:58.230
<v Bernhard Eschermann>obviously  the  process  uses  energy.  And  so  this  is  exactly 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>where  you  also  have  to  look  at  the  second aspect that  this 

0:25:01.710 --> 0:25:06.840
<v Bernhard Eschermann>whole  process  becomes  as  energy  efficient  as  possible  and  hopefully 

0:25:06.900 --> 0:25:08.880
<v Bernhard Eschermann>uses  renewable  energy  to  be  driven.

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<v Fran Scott>Yeah,  and  exactly  switching  the  conversation  now  onto  energy  usage, 

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:19.859
<v Fran Scott>because  energy  is  the  largest  consumer  of  natural  resources  and 

0:25:19.859 --> 0:25:24.389
<v Fran Scott>when  it  comes  to  industrial  plants,  I  suppose  shifting  to 

0:25:24.390 --> 0:25:28.980
<v Fran Scott>electricity  and  so  having  that  potential  of  using  renewables  I 

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<v Fran Scott>suppose  is  part  of  the  solution  but  could  you  tell 

0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:37.770
<v Fran Scott>me  briefly  what  role the  DCSs  would  play  in  enabling  this 

0:25:37.859 --> 0:25:39.570
<v Fran Scott>clean  energy  transition?

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>Yeah,  again,  I  try  to  use  an  example  from  everyday 

0:25:44.100 --> 0:25:48.780
<v Bernhard Eschermann>life.  Let's  assume  you  sit  at  home  and  want  to 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>mainly  use  electricity  from  the  solar  panels  that  you  have 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>on  your  roof,  and  then  you've  got  certain  electricity  loads 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>like  right  now  your  computer  that  probably  don't  want  to 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>switch  off.  Then  you've  got  other  loads  like  the  refrigerator, 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>you  can  switch  that  off  for  a  certain  amount  of 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>time,  but  probably  not  too  long.  And  you've  got  other 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>things  like  your  sauna  that  you  might  decide,  okay,  I 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>don't  want  to  operate  at  this  point  in  time  because 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>there's  no  sun  right  now.  And  all  of  these  decisions 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>are  now  decisions  that  you  take,  but  you've  got  hundreds 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>of  similar  decisions  to  take  in  an  industrial  plant  that 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>uses  both  conventional  and  renewable  energy  resources.  And  at  the 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>same  time,  obviously,  the  plant  needs  to  produce  something  to 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>create  a  payback  for  operating  plant.  Another  example  that  you 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>can  actually  look  at  is  this  topic  of  carbon  capture 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>and  storage,  trying  to  get  CO2  out  of  the  air 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>and  moving  the  carbon  out  of  that  in  a  safe 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>place  where  it  can  be  stored  forever.  This  is  a 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>technologically  very  complex  process  that  needs  lots  of  equipment  that 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>again,  needs  to  be  controlled  in  the  best  possible  fashion 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>and  as  energy  efficient  as  possible.  So  again,  it's  a 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>typical  application  for  a  distributed  control  system.

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<v Fran Scott>So  when  it  comes  to  the  future,  Bernhard,  what  excites 

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<v Fran Scott>you,  I  suppose,  when  it  comes  to  DCSs  and  also 

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<v Fran Scott>process  automation  in  general?

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>Fran,  if  I  think  back  20  years  ago,  computer  and 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>communication  technology  created  a  lot  of  constraints  that  we  had 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>to  deal  with  and  that  we  had  to  build  the 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>system  around.  And  now  most  of  these  bottlenecks  are  gone. 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>So  we've  got  all  of  these  great  new  technologies  at 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>our  disposal,  powerful  computers,  powerful  communication  systems,  AI,  machine  learning, 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>augmented  reality,  all  of  these  things  that  means  that  instead 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>of  focusing  on  the  constraints  of  the  technology,  we  can 

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<v Bernhard Eschermann>really  focus  on  creating  value  from  this  technology now.

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<v Fran Scott>What  a  pleasure  it  was  to  speak  to  both  Mike 

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<v Fran Scott>and  Bernhard  about  these  distributed  control  systems  and  what  an 

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<v Fran Scott>insight  they  gave  me  and  hopefully  you  about  how  these 

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<v Fran Scott>systems  are  at  the  heart  of  process  automation  and  these 

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<v Fran Scott>systems  that  we  all  take  for  granted  and  take  advantage 

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<v Fran Scott>of,  and  also  how  these  DCSs  can  future  proof  these 

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<v Fran Scott>processes,  so  they're  there  for  this  growing  population.  But  unfortunately, 

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<v Fran Scott>that  is  it  for  this  episode.  Of  course,  a  massive 

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<v Fran Scott>thank  you  to  Mike  Williams  and  Bernhard  Eschermann  for  their 

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