WEBVTT - The Future: Future-proofing seeds

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<v Speaker 1>Five,  four,  three,  two, one.

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<v Cate Blanchett>You're  probably  wondering  why  you're  hearing  the  sound  of  a 

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<v Cate Blanchett>rocket  launch  in  a  podcast  about  seeds.  Well,  it's  because 

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<v Cate Blanchett>at  Kew's  Millennium  Seed  Bank  in  Wakehurst's  wild  botanic  gardens, 

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<v Cate Blanchett>scientists  are  sending  seeds  into  space  to  test  the  boundaries 

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<v Cate Blanchett>of  life  as  we  know  it.  They're  asking  huge  questions 

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<v Cate Blanchett>like  what  happens  when  a  seed  leaves  the  planet  that 

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<v Cate Blanchett>shaped  it?  How  might  seeds  help  us  adapt,  survive,  even 

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<v Cate Blanchett>thrive  in  environments  beyond  our  own?  And  how  might  those 

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<v Cate Blanchett>answers  help  us  adapt  to  our  own  very  quickly  changing 

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<v Cate Blanchett>world?  It  may  sound  like  science  fiction,  but  it's  happening 

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<v Cate Blanchett>right  now.

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<v Anne Visscher>It's  taken  us  our  life  on  earth,  more  than  three 

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<v Anne Visscher>billion  years  to  send  the  first  organisms  into  space.  So, 

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<v Anne Visscher>I  think  it's  good  to  start  working  on  it  now 

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<v Anne Visscher>and  not  wait  until  the  last  moment.

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<v Cate Blanchett>Sending  seeds  into  space  is  one  way  of  testing  the 

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<v Cate Blanchett>limits  of  life,  another  is  far  closer  to  home.  Cryopreservation, 

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<v Cate Blanchett>plunging  seeds  into  temperatures  far  below  anything  it'd  ever  encounter 

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<v Cate Blanchett>in  nature,  is  pushing  the  boundaries  of  what's  possible  here 

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<v Cate Blanchett>on  earth.  And  it's  offering  a  lifeline  for  species  that 

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<v Cate Blanchett>conventional  storage  can't  protect.

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<v Louise Colville>Inside  are  these  racks,  and as  the  racks  are  very  cold, 

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<v Louise Colville>so  even  with  my  gloves  on  I  can  still  feel 

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<v Louise Colville>it's  quite  cold  to  hold.  And  in  here,  I  think 

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<v Louise Colville>there's  space  for  thousands  of  samples  inside  each  of  these  vessels.

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<v Cate Blanchett>The  choices  we  make  now,  the  seeds  we  protect  today, 

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<v Cate Blanchett>and  the  science  that  makes  their  preservation  possible  will  shape 

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<v Cate Blanchett>the  lives  of  generations  to  come.  I'm  Cate  Blanchett,  Kew's 

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<v Cate Blanchett>ambassador  for  Wakehurst,  and  this  is  Unearthed:  The  Need  for 

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<v Cate Blanchett>Seeds.  Episode  three,  The  Future.  If  you're  wondering,  as  I 

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<v Cate Blanchett>did,  why  with  so  many  pressing  challenges  here  on  Earth, 

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<v Cate Blanchett>Wakehurst  is  casting  their  gaze  out  into  space,  I  don't 

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<v Cate Blanchett>blame  you.  Space  is  perhaps  the  harshest  environment  imaginable,  and 

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<v Cate Blanchett>certainly  not  the  easiest  to  reach.  But  for  Anne  Visscher, 

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<v Cate Blanchett>a  research  fellow  in  the  seed  and  stress  biology  team 

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<v Cate Blanchett>here  at  the  MSB,  putting  seeds  into  space  opens  up 

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<v Cate Blanchett>an  extraordinary  spectrum  of  possibilities.

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<v Anne Visscher>There  are  several  aims  for  sending  seeds  into  space,  and 

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<v Anne Visscher>one  of  them  is  to  have  them  included  in  life 

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<v Anne Visscher>support  systems  for  human  missions  to  Mars  or  the  moon. 

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<v Anne Visscher>Another  reason  might  be  to  store  seeds  as  part  of 

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<v Anne Visscher>small  banks  on  the  moon  as  a  second  backup  for 

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<v Anne Visscher>use  on  earth,  and  those  are  called  biorepositories.  And  then, 

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<v Anne Visscher>a  third  aim  has  been  mentioned  for  years  already  is 

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<v Anne Visscher>the  idea  of  maybe  perhaps  terraforming  Mars  in  the  distant  future.

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<v Cate Blanchett>Anne  is  at  the  heart  of  several  remarkable  space  projects, 

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<v Cate Blanchett>two  of  which  are  destined  for  the  International  Space  Station.

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<v Anne Visscher>One  will  be  housed  on  the  outside,  exposing  24  different 

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<v Anne Visscher>species  to  the  actual  outer  space  conditions,  and  then  about 

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<v Anne Visscher>six  species  will  be  going  to  the  inside  of  this  station.

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<v Cate Blanchett>And  one  is  even  set  to  journey  to  the  moon.

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<v Anne Visscher>And  then  there's  a  project  that  is  preparing  to  send 

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<v Anne Visscher>seeds  to  the  surface  of  the  moon,  first  in  a 

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<v Anne Visscher>dry  state,  and  then  a  subsequent  mission  to  do  a 

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<v Anne Visscher>germination  kind  of  experiment  as  well.

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<v Cate Blanchett>Space  is  an  environment  so  unforgiving  that  just  surviving  is 

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<v Cate Blanchett>a  challenge,  and  that  is  exactly  what  Anne  and  her 

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<v Cate Blanchett>team  are  putting  these  seeds  up  against.

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<v Anne Visscher>So,  the  conditions  that  our  seeds  will  be  exposed  to 

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<v Anne Visscher>on  the  outside  of  the  International  Space  Station  will  be 

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<v Anne Visscher>vacuum  and  radiation,  and  that  way  we  can  not  only 

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<v Anne Visscher>look  at  the  effect  of  vacuum,  and  radiation,  and  temperature 

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<v Anne Visscher>in  combination,  which  will  make  it  harder  to  understand  what 

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<v Anne Visscher>each  condition  does  for  the  seed,  but  we'll  try  to 

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<v Anne Visscher>separate  them  out  and  that  way  we  can  analyze  the 

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<v Anne Visscher>effect  of  either  vacuum  on  its  own,  the  radiation  on 

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<v Anne Visscher>its  own,  and  temperature  fluctuations  we'll  try  to  mimic  on 

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<v Anne Visscher>the  ground.

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<v Cate Blanchett>Now  stay  with  me  here,  it  might  sound  far  removed, 

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<v Cate Blanchett>but  what  we  learn  up  there  has  real  consequences  for 

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<v Cate Blanchett>how  we  safeguard  seeds  back  down  here  at the  MSB.

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<v Anne Visscher>Research  on  earth  has  shown  that  some  species  actually  benefit 

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<v Anne Visscher>from  being  stored  without  oxygen  or  at  even  lower  humidities 

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<v Anne Visscher>that  we're  using  as  a  standard  in  the  bank.  Not 

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<v Anne Visscher>all  species,  but  some  show  increased  longevity,  which  means  that 

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<v Anne Visscher>if  you  store  them  for  a  certain  length  of  time 

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<v Anne Visscher>and  try  to  germinate  them  afterwards,  you  see  a  larger 

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<v Anne Visscher>number  of  seeds  still  germinating  than  if  you  store  them 

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<v Anne Visscher>with  oxygen  or  at  high  water  contents.  So,  some  of 

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<v Anne Visscher>our  findings  that  might  come  from  our  space  research  can 

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<v Anne Visscher>have  an  impact  on  how  we  store  seeds  on  earth 

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<v Anne Visscher>in  the  bank.

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<v Cate Blanchett>The  team  are  sending  seeds  into  the  International  Space  Station 

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<v Cate Blanchett>to  understand  how  the  conditions  there  impact  germination,  and  every 

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<v Cate Blanchett>single  seed  has  been  carefully  chosen  to  be  part  of 

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<v Cate Blanchett>this  experiment.

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<v Anne Visscher>We've  really  tried  to  cover  as  much  diversity  as  possible to 

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<v Anne Visscher>be  able  to  see  if  those  factors  make  a  difference, 

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<v Anne Visscher>and  these  factors  include  the  climate  that  they  were  collected 

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<v Anne Visscher>from.  Also,  the  family.  We  are  also  trying  to  have 

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<v Anne Visscher>a  range  of  different  seed  characteristics,  so  the  size  of 

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<v Anne Visscher>the  embryo  or  whether  they're  dormant  or  not,  thickness  of 

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<v Anne Visscher>the  seed  coat.

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<v Cate Blanchett>By  including  a  wide  range  of  seeds,  Anne  and  her 

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<v Cate Blanchett>team  can  begin  to  understand  which  species  are  most  resilient 

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<v Cate Blanchett>in  space,  but  these  aren't  quick  experiments.  These  are  carefully 

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<v Cate Blanchett>planned  long- term  projects.

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<v Anne Visscher>We've  been  working  on  this  since  2014,  so  we're  already 

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<v Anne Visscher>11  years  underway.  So, it is  really  a  practice  in  patience.  Hopefully 

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<v Anne Visscher>it  will  fly  in  the  next  few  years  and  we'll 

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<v Anne Visscher>get  data  back  within  five  years.  And  it's  always  a 

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<v Anne Visscher>matter  of  reducing  your  expectations  and  seeing  the  long- term 

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<v Anne Visscher>picture,  but  taking  it  one  step  at  a  time.

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<v Cate Blanchett>Closer  to  home,  Anne  is  studying  some  of  the  most 

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<v Cate Blanchett>extreme  environments  on  earth  as  part  of  the  Western  Global 

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<v Cate Blanchett>Tree  Seed  Bank,  a  project  we  first  heard  about  in 

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<v Cate Blanchett>episode  two  from Nattanit  Yiamthaisong,  the  PhD  student  from  Thailand.

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<v Anne Visscher>We  are  trying  to  identify  species  that  can  survive  really 

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<v Anne Visscher>high  temperatures  during  germination,  over  40  degrees  Celsius.  And  what 

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<v Anne Visscher>I'm  doing  there  is  screening  over  100  different  collections  from 

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<v Anne Visscher>the  Millennium  Seed  Bank  by  looking  at  the  areas  in 

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<v Anne Visscher>the  world  where  we  can  see  the  highest  average  annual 

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<v Anne Visscher>temperature  over  27  degrees.  They're  particularly  interested  in  tree  species, 

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<v Anne Visscher>and  what  I'm  trying  to  do  is  identify  ones  that 

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<v Anne Visscher>have  really  high  germination  at  42  and  a  half  degrees 

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<v Anne Visscher>Celsius.  So,  we've  now  screened  approximately  50  collections  and  we've 

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<v Anne Visscher>discovered  several  that  show  really  good  percentages  of  germination  at 

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<v Anne Visscher>that  temperature.  So,  we  are  excited  to  hopefully  discover  species 

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<v Anne Visscher>that  not  only  grow  really  well  in  the  mature  plant 

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<v Anne Visscher>state  in  those  hot  regions,  but  for  which  we  also 

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<v Anne Visscher>know  that  they  can  survive  really  high  temperatures  in  their 

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<v Anne Visscher>really  early  phase  of  germination,  when  the  root  tip  first 

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<v Anne Visscher>comes  out  and  the  seedling  then  develops,  because  ultimately  what 

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<v Anne Visscher>we're  interested  in  is  using  our  collections  to  restore  habitats 

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<v Anne Visscher>and  reforest  regions.

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<v Cate Blanchett>The  team  wanted  to  know  if  the  temperature  of  the 

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<v Cate Blanchett>site  where  each  seed  was  collected  would  predict  how  well 

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<v Cate Blanchett>it  germinated  under  high  heat,  but  the  results  are  surprising. 

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<v Cate Blanchett>Seeds  from  hotter  regions  aren't  automatically  better  at  coping  with 

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<v Cate Blanchett>extreme  temperatures. 

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<v Anne Visscher>So,  we  were  hoping  that  perhaps  choosing  seeds  from  plants 

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<v Anne Visscher>that  grow  in  the  hottest  areas,  even  within  these  very 

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<v Anne Visscher>hot  regions,  we  may  have  a  higher  amount  of  candidate 

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<v Anne Visscher>species  that  are  also  tolerant  during  germination,  but  that  doesn't 

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<v Anne Visscher>seem  to  be  necessarily  the  case.  It  seems  relatively  random, 

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<v Anne Visscher>which  ones  are  the  tolerant  ones  and  which  ones  are 

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<v Anne Visscher>the  sensitive  ones.  So,  we  really  do  need  to  do 

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<v Anne Visscher>this  screen  to  find  out. 

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<v Cate Blanchett>Anne's  work  depends  on  the  seeds  safely  stored  here  at 

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<v Cate Blanchett>the  Millennium  Seed  Bank,  and  many  of  these  seeds  come 

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<v Cate Blanchett>through  the  MSB's  international  partners,  collecting  locally,  banking  locally,  and 

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<v Cate Blanchett>sending  duplicates  back  here  to  Wakehurst.  But  the  work  here 

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<v Cate Blanchett>isn't  just  about  storing  seeds,  it's  thinking  about  how  to 

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<v Cate Blanchett>make  collections  stronger  for  the  long  term.  One  way  this 

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<v Cate Blanchett>is  happening  is  through  the  new  trainer  certification  scheme,  which 

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<v Cate Blanchett>trains  local  collectors.  The  idea  is  simple,  but  powerful.  Equip 

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<v Cate Blanchett>people  globally  with  the  skills  to  collect  and  care  for 

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<v Cate Blanchett>seeds  in  their  own  backyards  so  knowledge  and  seeds  don't 

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<v Cate Blanchett>stay  in  one  place.

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<v Meg Engelhardt>My  name  is  Meg  Engelhardt,  and  I'm  the  seed  bank 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>manager  for  the  Missouri  Botanical  Garden.  One  project  that  we're 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>working  on  right  now  is  we're  able  to  pull  orchid 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>seeds  from  the  past  that  are  in  populations  that  don't 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>really  exist  anymore  or  we  haven't  seen  them  in  a 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>long  time,  and  we're  working  on  reintroducing  those  back  into 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>their  native  landscapes  in  central  Missouri.  And  we  have  woodlands 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>and  glades  there  that are  part  of  the  Ozarks,  and  so 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>we're  working  on  those  areas  specifically.  Kew  was  a  big 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>inspiration  for  our  founder,  so  we've  been  peer  institutions  over 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>time,  and  in  more  recent  decades,  that's  really  turned  into 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>a  heavy  focus  on  plant  conservation  and  trying  to  halt 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>this  biodiversity  loss.

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<v Cate Blanchett>Meg's  excited  to  take  what  she's  learned  here  at the  MSB, 

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<v Cate Blanchett>and  share  that  knowledge  back  home.

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<v Meg Engelhardt>Now  I  get  to  come  back  here  and  help  develop 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>this  program  so  that  we  can  take  it  to  our 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>home  countries  and  adapt  to  the  people  that  are  going 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>to  use  it  in  our  specific  areas,  but  also  the 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>most  exciting  part  for  me  is  that  we're  all  working 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>from  the  same  standards  that  have  been  set  by  the 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>Millennium  Seed  Bank.  And  so,  when  I  get  home  I'll 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>be  able  to  train  people  who  are  leading  their  own 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>programs  or  maybe  just  starting  a  small  program,  all  the 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>way  down  to  practitioners  who  are  maybe  a  seed  collector, 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>who  then  grow  seeds  out  that  people  can  use  for 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>restoration.  So,  it  will  apply  to  professionals  down  to  practitioners.

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<v Cate Blanchett>Meg  says  that  the  knowledge  sharing  is  crucial,  it's  the 

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<v Cate Blanchett>key  to  stopping  the  decline  of  species  and  ecosystems.

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<v Meg Engelhardt>Halting  the  loss  of  biodiversity  has  been  at  the  forefront 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>of  our  institution's  work,  and  this  is  going  to  have 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>such  a  strong  impact  in  our  ability  to  collaborate  and 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>share  that  knowledge,  and  not  keep  that  knowledge  just  to 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>the  people  who  have  access  but  make  sure  that  everyone 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>that  can  contribute  to  this  really  difficult  problem  have  that 

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<v Meg Engelhardt>knowledge  and  experience.

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<v Louise Colville>In  this  room  we  have  three  silver  vessels,  which  look 

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<v Louise Colville>a  bit  like  the  vats  you  might  see  in  a 

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<v Louise Colville>brewery.  Each  of  them  contain  liquid  nitrogen.  So,  liquid  nitrogen 

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<v Louise Colville>temperature  is  minus  196  degrees  Celsius,  but  on  these  vessels 

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<v Louise Colville>you  can  see  the  temperature  gauge  is  around  minus  170 

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<v Louise Colville>degrees  Celsius.  So,  that's  the  temperature of the  liquid  nitrogen  vapor  in 

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<v Louise Colville>which  the  seeds  are  stored.

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<v Cate Blanchett>This  is  Louise  Colville,  senior  research  leader  in  seed  biology, 

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<v Cate Blanchett>guiding  us  through  one  of  the  most  futuristic  looking  parts 

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<v Cate Blanchett>of  Kew's  Millennium  Seed  Bank,  the  cryopreservation  storage  room.  Wearing 

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<v Cate Blanchett>thick  gloves  and  safety  goggles,  she  opens  one  of  the 

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<v Cate Blanchett>enormous  metal  barrels  and  a  cloud  of  swirling  vapor  pours  out.

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<v Louise Colville>So,  in  here  we  have  our  racks  which  are  filled 

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<v Louise Colville>with  our  samples,  so  that  noise  was  the  fan  to 

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<v Louise Colville>clear  the  vapor  because  we  can  just  see  a  big 

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<v Louise Colville>cloud  of  vapor  now.  And  inside  are  these  racks,  and 

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<v Louise Colville>in  each  rack  there'll  be  storage  boxes  which  contain  our 

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<v Louise Colville>samples.  The  racks  are  very  cold,  so  even  with  my 

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<v Louise Colville>gloves  on  I  can  still  feel  it's  quite  cold  to 

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<v Louise Colville>hold.  And  in  here,  I  think  there's  space  for  thousands 

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<v Louise Colville>of  samples  inside  each  of  these  vessels.  So,  they  contain 

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<v Louise Colville>quite  a  lot  of  our  short- lived  orthodox  seed  collections, 

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<v Louise Colville>which  are  duplicated  from  the  seed  bank.

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<v Cate Blanchett>Cryopreservation  is  reserved  for  seeds that  don't  take  kindly  to  the 

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<v Cate Blanchett>usual  drying  and  storage  process.  The  more  tricky  ones  are 

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<v Cate Blanchett>called  recalcitrant  seeds,  ones  that  we  touched  on  briefly  with 

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<v Cate Blanchett>seed  curator,  Sian  McCabe,  in  the  previous  episode.

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<v Louise Colville>Recalcitrant  seeds  tend  to  be  larger,  they  also  contain  a 

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<v Louise Colville>lot  of  water,  and  they  tend  to  have  thin  seed 

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<v Louise Colville>coats  as  well.  So,  if  we  think  about  something  which 

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<v Louise Colville>probably  lots  of  people  are  familiar  with  acorns  from  oak 

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<v Louise Colville>trees,  also  chestnuts.  So,  you  tend  to  find  species  which 

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<v Louise Colville>produce  recalcitrant  seeds  in  wetter  environments.  So  for  example,  trees 

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<v Louise Colville>in  rainforests,  and  the  same  with  species  like  sea  grass, 

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<v Louise Colville>so  they're  grown  in  marine  environments  and  produce  recalcitrant  seeds. 

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<v Cate Blanchett>And  different  seeds  have  different  needs.

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<v Louise Colville>The  cryopreservation  process  typically  has  to  be  optimized  or  adapted 

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<v Louise Colville>for  each  species.  So,  there's  not  one  approach  which  works 

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<v Louise Colville>for  everything,  which  is  one  of  the  major  challenges  with 

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<v Louise Colville>using  cryopreservation.  So,  what  we  do  is  we  take  out 

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<v Louise Colville>the  part  of  the  seed  called  the  embryonic  axis,  and 

0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:12.870
<v Louise Colville>that's  the  part  of  the  seed  which  develops  into  the 

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<v Louise Colville>new  plant.  And  because  it's  much  smaller,  it  means  we 

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<v Louise Colville>can  then  very  rapidly  partially  dry  that  tissue  to  a 

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<v Louise Colville>point  where  we  remove  the  water,  which  will  form  ice. 

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<v Louise Colville>And  then,  once  we've  reached  that  point  we  can  then 

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<v Louise Colville>very  rapidly  freeze  it  using  liquid  nitrogen.

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<v Cate Blanchett>The  embryonic  axis  is  that  little  white  part  you  see 

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<v Cate Blanchett>inside  a  seed.  It's  what  I  saw  when  we  cut 

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<v Cate Blanchett>one  open  with  Ted  Chapman  and  Isabel  Negri  in  the 

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<v Cate Blanchett>previous  episode.  It's  basically  the  heart  of  a  seed.  It's 

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<v Cate Blanchett>the  part  that  will  grow  into  a  new  plant,  which 

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<v Cate Blanchett>is  why  Louise  and  her  team  focus  on  preserving  it 

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<v Cate Blanchett>so  carefully,  but  it  comes  with  its  own  challenges.  You 

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<v Cate Blanchett>can't  just  germinate  these  cryo- preserved  seeds  like  you  would 

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<v Cate Blanchett>a  regular  seed.  They  need  in  vitro  techniques,  essentially  coaxing 

0:15:01.890 --> 0:15:05.010
<v Cate Blanchett>the  seed  to  grow  from  scratch  in  a  Petri  dish.

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<v Louise Colville>That  is  very  complicated,  and  I  think  one  of  the 

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<v Louise Colville>challenges  as  well  is  that  if  we  can  regenerate  after 

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<v Louise Colville>cryo  using  in  vitro  techniques,  it's  then  moving  on  from 

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<v Louise Colville>that  to  be  able  to  take  those  plants  into  the 

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<v Louise Colville>nursery,  because  obviously  they've  become  quite  used  to  their  nice 

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<v Louise Colville>protected  conditions,  and  then  to  go  out  where  they're  exposed 

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<v Louise Colville>to  further  stress  is  a  big  step  for  them.

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<v Cate Blanchett>Louise  and  her  team  are  still  in  the  research  phase, 

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<v Cate Blanchett>working  out  how  different  species  respond  to  this  type  of 

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<v Cate Blanchett>preservation.  It's  crucial  that  they  get  it  right,  because  each 

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<v Cate Blanchett>seed  is  different,  and  some  very  important  seeds  rely  on 

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<v Cate Blanchett>this  specific  method  to  remain  viable.

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<v Louise Colville>Although  only  around  10% of  the  world's  seed- bearing  plants  produce 

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<v Louise Colville>recalcitrant  seeds.  In  some  regions  such  as  tropical  rainforests,  around 

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<v Louise Colville>50%  of  tree  species  will  produce  recalcitrant  seeds,  and  most 

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<v Louise Colville>of  those  species  will  also  be  under  greater  threat  of 

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<v Louise Colville>extinction.  So,  I  think  there's  a  real  pressure  here  that 

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<v Louise Colville>we  should  be  conserving  not  just  orthodox  seeds  that  we 

0:16:04.230 --> 0:16:07.410
<v Louise Colville>can  conserve  quite  easily,  but  also  looking  at  addressing  the 

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<v Louise Colville>challenges  of  conserving  these  more  difficult  to  preserve  species.  Most 

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<v Louise Colville>of  our  work  so  far  has  been  on  UK  trees, 

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<v Louise Colville>and  actually  oaks.  So  quercus  robur,  the  English  oak,  is 

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<v Louise Colville>quite  difficult  to  cryopreserve  and  we're  not  really  sure  why. 

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<v Louise Colville>We  think  part  of  it  is  down  to  the  chemistry 

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<v Louise Colville>of  the  seed.  So, as soon  as  we  remove  the  embryonic  acid 

0:16:25.380 --> 0:16:28.290
<v Louise Colville>it's  starting  to  oxidize.  As  you  watch,  you  can  see 

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<v Louise Colville>them  start  to  brown.  So,  it's  at  that  point  where 

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<v Louise Colville>the  challenge  starts,  so  we  need  to  use  antioxidants  to 

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<v Louise Colville>help  prevent  that  browning  before  we  can  then  move  into 

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<v Louise Colville>our  cryopreservation  process. 
 But  even  then,  even  if  you  have 

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<v Louise Colville>a  successful  protocol,  survival  might  only  be  40%  after  cryopreservation, 

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<v Louise Colville>and  that would  be  considered  quite  good.

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<v Cate Blanchett>The  team  anticipate  that  cryo- preserved  seeds  will  endure  far 

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<v Cate Blanchett>longer  than  those  in  conventional  seed  bank  storage,  though  the  long-

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<v Cate Blanchett>term  data  isn't  in  yet.  Still,  this  approach  could  offer 

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<v Cate Blanchett>a  lifeline  for  plants  that  don't  produce  seeds  at  all.

0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:07.409
<v Louise Colville>So,  cryopreservation  is  not  just for  seeds,  but  it's  also  an 

0:17:07.410 --> 0:17:10.050
<v Louise Colville>approach  that  can  be  used  for  the  conservation  of  a 

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<v Louise Colville>much  wider  range  of  plants,  mosses  and  ferns,  seaweeds,  for 

0:17:13.890 --> 0:17:17.490
<v Louise Colville>example.  These  don't  produce  seeds,  but  they  instead  reproduce  via 

0:17:17.490 --> 0:17:21.180
<v Louise Colville>spores.  Over  half  of  the  UK  native  species  do  not 

0:17:21.180 --> 0:17:24.960
<v Louise Colville>produce  seeds.  So,  by  using  cryopreservation  we  can  really  scale 

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<v Louise Colville>up  the  diversity  of  the  British  flora  that  we  can  conserve.

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<v Cate Blanchett>Cryopreservation  gives  us  a  way  to  protect  a  huge  variety 

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<v Cate Blanchett>of  plant  life,  and  Louise's  research  is  a  prime  example 

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<v Cate Blanchett>of  the  innovation  happening  at  the  MSB.  But  of  course, 

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<v Cate Blanchett>preservation  and  conservation  aren't  confined  to  the  UK.  Around  the 

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<v Cate Blanchett>world,  MSB  partners  are  working  to  safeguard  their  own  local 

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<v Cate Blanchett>ecosystems.  Cutting  edge  science  and  on  the- ground  action  go 

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<v Cate Blanchett>hand  in  hand.

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<v James Amponsah>My  name  is  James  Amponsah,  I'm  working  with  the  Forestry 

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<v James Amponsah>Research  Institute  of  Ghana,  and  specifically  that  institute  has  a 

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<v James Amponsah>national  seed  bank  called  the  National  Tree  Seed  Center.  I'm 

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<v James Amponsah>in  charge  of  managing  seed  conservation,  especially  with  forest  seeds 

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<v James Amponsah>in  Ghana.  So,  we  are  expected  to  supervise  and  undertake 

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<v James Amponsah>seed  collections  across  the  country.

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<v Cate Blanchett>As  a  partner  of  Kew's  Millennium  Seed  Bank,  the  Forestry 

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<v Cate Blanchett>Research  Institute  of  Ghana  has  collaborated  on  joint  research  projects 

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<v Cate Blanchett>and  contributed  seeds  to  the  MSB.  But  back  home,  their 

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<v Cate Blanchett>National  Tree  Seed  Center  is  also  actively  involved  in  restoring 

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<v Cate Blanchett>land  across  Ghana,  including  rehabilitating  former  mine  sites.

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<v James Amponsah>Ghana  is  currently  facing  a  lot  of  problems  with  small 

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<v James Amponsah>scale  illegal  mining,  polluting  water  bodies  and  degrading  our  forest 

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<v James Amponsah>resources.  And  so,  we  have  been  involved  in  selecting  species 

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<v James Amponsah>and  making  sure  that  we  have  the  right  framework  species 

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<v James Amponsah>for  restoring  these  degraded  forests  back  to their  natural  states.

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<v Cate Blanchett>James  is  part  of  the  very  first  cohort  to  take 

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<v Cate Blanchett>part in  the  new  trainer  certification  scheme.  And  just  like  Meg 

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<v Cate Blanchett>says,  he's  bringing  those  skills  back  home  to  help  others 

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<v Cate Blanchett>and  make  a  real  difference  on  the  ground.

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<v James Amponsah>This  certification  program  for  me  is  taking  our  partnership  to 

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<v James Amponsah>another  level.  It's  really  going  to  help  contribute  to  our 

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<v James Amponsah>seed  bank's  ability  to  train  others.  So,  I  think  it's 

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<v James Amponsah>very  important.  This  training  is  really  beneficial  for  us  as 

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<v James Amponsah>participant.  We  have  come  in  thinking  that  it's  going  to 

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<v James Amponsah>be  more  of  training  on  the  standards,  but  in  going 

0:19:42.869 --> 0:19:46.020
<v James Amponsah>beyond  that  we  are  now  being  trained  with  how  to 

0:19:46.020 --> 0:19:51.330
<v James Amponsah>deliver  high  quality  training,  how  to  engage  with  our  participants, 

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<v James Amponsah>how  to  make  our  training  back  home  more  impactful.

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<v Cate Blanchett>For  James  and  for  everyone  he  trains  back  in  Ghana, 

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<v Cate Blanchett>tapping  into  local  knowledge  is  just  as  important  as  any 

0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:03.510
<v Cate Blanchett>lab  experiment.

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<v James Amponsah>When  we  use  local  knowledge  in  seed  conservation,  it's  really 

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<v James Amponsah>helpful.  Sometimes  local  people  know  best  where  we  could  find 

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<v James Amponsah>best  sources  for  seed  collection.  They  may  even  have  traditional 

0:20:15.900 --> 0:20:19.679
<v James Amponsah>ways  of  pre- treating  their  seeds  for  better  germination.  And so, 

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<v James Amponsah>when  you  ignore  that  you  will  be  losing  out  actually 

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<v James Amponsah>as  a  research  scientist.  And  so,  local  knowledge  is  very 

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<v James Amponsah>critical  for  seed  conservation  at  all  levels.  The  work  of the 

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<v James Amponsah>MSP  is  really  enhancing  biodiversity  conservation.  With  climate  change  and 

0:20:36.150 --> 0:20:40.139
<v James Amponsah>with  biodiversity  losses  on  the  rise,  working  hard  to  conserve 

0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:45.300
<v James Amponsah>seeds is  actually  helping  us  to  safeguard  our  plant  biodiversity.  It is 

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<v James Amponsah>also  a  way  of  ensuring  that  seed  banks  across  the 

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<v James Amponsah>world  will  get  to  know  of  improved  standards  to  help 

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<v James Amponsah>us  benefit  nature  and  people  in  the  end.  And  this 

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<v James Amponsah>for  me  is  great.  It's  really  a  way  of  empowering 

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<v James Amponsah>us  to  deliver  our  best  in  terms  of  seed  conservation 

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<v James Amponsah>across  our  country,  and  even  across  Africa.

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<v Cate Blanchett>Insightful  words  from  James,  and  another  reminder  of  how  seed 

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<v Cate Blanchett>banking  really  is  a  global  effort.  But  back  here  in 

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<v Cate Blanchett>the  labs,  researchers  Anne and  Louise  are  tackling  a  different  type 

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<v Cate Blanchett>of  challenge,  cracking  the  secrets  of  seed  dormancy.  Their  work 

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<v Cate Blanchett>centers  around  what  makes  a  seed  stay  asleep  and  what 

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<v Cate Blanchett>wakes  it  up  or  start  to  germinate.  Imagine  a  seed 

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<v Cate Blanchett>in  autumn.  It  survives  the  winter  lying  in  the  soil 

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<v Cate Blanchett>until  bursting  into  life  and  spring.  Now,  sometimes  that  awakening 

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<v Cate Blanchett>depends  on  a  nudge  from  the  environment,  a  physical  cue 

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<v Cate Blanchett>to  tell  it  the  time  is  right. 

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<v Anne Visscher>It  can be  through  wetting  and  drying,  and  over  time  this 

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<v Anne Visscher>creates  small  cracks.  It  can  also  be  by  passage  through 

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<v Anne Visscher>animals,  by  the  seeds  being  eaten.  It  can  also  happen 

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<v Anne Visscher>through  temperature  fluctuations,  again,  causing  small  morphological  changes  and  then 

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<v Anne Visscher>eventually  cracks.  Or  it  can  be  a  molecular  reason  where 

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<v Anne Visscher>there  are  certain  hormones  that  are  really  high  at  that 

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<v Anne Visscher>time  that  stop  other  processes  from  happening  so  that  the 

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<v Anne Visscher>whole  germination  growth  process  doesn't  start.  Temperature  is  a  well-

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<v Anne Visscher>known  trigger,  for  example  in  these  temperate  climates  that  we're 

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<v Anne Visscher>living  in  here in  the  UK,  so  some  seeds  are  dispersed 

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<v Anne Visscher>in  the  autumn  but  they  won't  germinate  during  the  winter, 

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<v Anne Visscher>and  it's  often  because  of  their  dormancy.  And  what  happens 

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<v Anne Visscher>is  that  after  a  certain  number  of  cold  hours  that 

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<v Anne Visscher>they  experience,  they  are  then  ready  to  germinate  under  the 

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<v Anne Visscher>spring  conditions.

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<v Cate Blanchett>But  with  climate  change  altering  weather  patterns,  many  seeds  aren't 

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<v Cate Blanchett>reaching  the  temperatures  they  need  to  break  dormancy.  That's  where 

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<v Cate Blanchett>Louise's  team  is  turning  to  an  unexpected  solution. 

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<v Louise Colville>Plasma  is  the  fourth  state  of  matter.  So  we  have 

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<v Louise Colville>solid,  liquids,  gases  and  plasma.  It's  actually  the  most  abundant 

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<v Louise Colville>state  of  matter  in  the  universe.  Plasma  consists  of  highly 

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<v Louise Colville>reactive  molecules  and  ions.  It's  produced  by  either  heating  or 

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<v Louise Colville>applying  an  electric  charge  to  a  gas.  So, plasma's  very  abundant 

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<v Louise Colville>in  stars,  for  example.  On  earth,  when  lightning  strikes,  that 

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<v Louise Colville>generates  plasma. 

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<v Cate Blanchett>Yeah,  plasma.  It's  the  same  stuff  that  makes  your  TV 

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<v Cate Blanchett>glow,  only  a  bit  more  alive.

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<v Louise Colville>Plasma  consists  of  these  reactive  molecules.  We  know  that  these 

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<v Louise Colville>interact  with  the  molecular  pathways  which  control  seed  dormancy  and 

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<v Louise Colville>germination.  We're  interested  in  whether  plasma  could  be  used  to 

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<v Louise Colville>treat  seeds  and  break  dormancy.

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<v Cate Blanchett>Tree  species  often  belong  to  the  long  dormancy  club.  Many 

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<v Cate Blanchett>species  need  months  of  cold  before  they're  ready  to  germinate.

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<v Louise Colville>We  were  interested  in  whether  we  could  use  plasma  treatments 

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<v Louise Colville>to  accelerate  the  process  of  dormancy  break,  perhaps  shorten  the 

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<v Louise Colville>requirement  for  the  cold  treatment  or  maybe  eliminating  it  altogether. 

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<v Louise Colville>We  were  working  with  Hazel,  Rowan,  and  Beech,  so  those 

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<v Louise Colville>seeds  all  require  long  periods  of  cold  stratification  to  germinate. 

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<v Louise Colville>And  then  we  also  used  free  shallow  dormant  species,  which 

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<v Louise Colville>was  Scots  pine,  downy  birch,  and  common  alder.  And  so, 

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<v Louise Colville>they  require  just  a  short  period  of  cold  stratification.

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<v Cate Blanchett>The  team  applied  two  different  styles  of  plasma  treatments,  the 

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<v Cate Blanchett>first is  very  direct.

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<v Louise Colville>The  seeds  are  put  on  a  conveyor  belt  and  they're 

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<v Louise Colville>passed  underneath  a  plasma  generator,  and  you  can  see  little 

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<v Louise Colville>purple  lightning  strikes  of  plasma  discharges  connecting  with  the  seed.

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<v Cate Blanchett>And  the  second  is  indirect,  using  air  and  water.

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<v Louise Colville>So,  we  treated  air  with  plasma  and  then  exposed  the 

0:24:56.730 --> 0:24:59.159
<v Louise Colville>seeds  to  that  plasma  treated  air,  and  we  did  the 

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<v Louise Colville>same  with  water.  So,  we  plasma  treated  water  and  then 

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<v Louise Colville>soaked  the  seeds  in  that  plasma  treated  water.  And  what 

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<v Louise Colville>we  found  is  that  for  three  of  the  species,  for 

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<v Louise Colville>Rowan,  Hazel,  and  downy  birch,  we  found  that  the  plasma 

0:25:11.490 --> 0:25:16.020
<v Louise Colville>treated  air  was  effective  at  breaking  dormancy.  It  improved  the 

0:25:16.020 --> 0:25:19.590
<v Louise Colville>germination  in  combination  with  a  cold  treatment  compared  to  not 

0:25:19.590 --> 0:25:20.609
<v Louise Colville>having  the  plasma  treatment.

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<v Cate Blanchett>Now,  the  team  didn't  see  this  coming,  and  they  suspect 

0:25:24.690 --> 0:25:27.090
<v Cate Blanchett>it  might  have  something  to  do  with  how  the  plasma 

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<v Cate Blanchett>interacts  with  the  plant's  own  hormones.

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<v Louise Colville>So  what  we're  thinking,  and  we  still  need  to  work 

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<v Louise Colville>further  on  this,  is  that  the  plasma- treated  air  treatment 

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<v Louise Colville>in  particular  is  interacting  with  the  molecular  pathways  controlling  dormancy. 

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<v Louise Colville>So,  dormancy  is  particularly  controlled  by  the  balance  of  two 

0:25:42.930 --> 0:25:46.200
<v Louise Colville>hormones,  and  we  think  that  the  plasma  is  interacting  with 

0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Louise Colville>the  molecular  pathways  which  are  controlling  the  balance  of  the 

0:25:48.630 --> 0:25:51.030
<v Louise Colville>plant  hormones  to  help  to  break  dormancy.

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<v Cate Blanchett>Now,  it  might  sound  a  bit  like  science  fiction,  but 

0:25:54.540 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Cate Blanchett>this  treatment  could  have  real  world  impact.

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<v Louise Colville>The  reason  that  we  started  working  on  it  is  that 

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<v Louise Colville>the  UK  government  has  tree  planting  targets,  and  in  order 

0:26:02.790 --> 0:26:05.250
<v Louise Colville>to  meet  those  targets  we  need  to  scale  up  tree 

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<v Louise Colville>production  in  nurseries.  But  one  of  the  key  barriers  to 

0:26:08.100 --> 0:26:12.510
<v Louise Colville>that  is  germination.  So,  dormancy  represents  a  block  to  basically 

0:26:12.540 --> 0:26:16.020
<v Louise Colville>scaling  up  nursery  production  of  trees,  and  the  reason  we 

0:26:16.020 --> 0:26:19.080
<v Louise Colville>chose  plasma  treatments  is  because  you  can  treat  lots  of 

0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:20.160
<v Louise Colville>seeds  at  once.

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<v Cate Blanchett>Innovations  like  plasma  treatments  show  just  how  science  can  tackle 

0:26:25.530 --> 0:26:29.250
<v Cate Blanchett>real  world  challenges,  and  the  work  being  done  in  the 

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<v Cate Blanchett>cryogenic  space  and  even  in  space  itself  all  feels  pretty 

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<v Cate Blanchett>futuristic.  But  I  guess  25  years  ago  the  idea  of 

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<v Cate Blanchett>the  Millennium  Seed  Bank  in  itself  was  futuristic.  We  heard 

0:26:42.570 --> 0:26:45.540
<v Cate Blanchett>from  Roger  Smith  in  the  first  episode,  how  the  initial 

0:26:45.540 --> 0:26:48.210
<v Cate Blanchett>idea  for  the  seed  bank  was  seen  as  being  a 

0:26:48.210 --> 0:26:52.230
<v Cate Blanchett>little  radical  or  out  there.  However,  the  ambition  was  also 

0:26:52.230 --> 0:26:56.700
<v Cate Blanchett>huge,  to  build  something  that  would  last  for  30  generations, 

0:26:56.760 --> 0:27:01.439
<v Cate Blanchett>a  whole  other  millennium.  So  in  that  respect,  the  MSB 

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<v Cate Blanchett>is  really  only  just  getting  started.  From  cutting  edge  labs 

0:27:06.450 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Cate Blanchett>to  the  people  protecting  their  ecosystems  across  the  world,  the 

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:12.780
<v Cate Blanchett>seed  bank  is  a  reminder  that  the  future  of  plant 

0:27:12.780 --> 0:27:17.400
<v Cate Blanchett>conservation  is  being  written  right  now.  It's  a  story  that 

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:20.880
<v Cate Blanchett>is  still  unfolding  and  one  that  is  full  of  passionate 

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:24.300
<v Cate Blanchett>people,  pushing  boundaries  of  what  is  possible  in  a  united 

0:27:24.300 --> 0:27:27.300
<v Cate Blanchett>mission  to  protect  the  future  of  our  planet.

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<v Speaker 7>The  threats  that  we're  facing  are  global  and  they  are 

0:27:31.260 --> 0:27:33.359
<v Speaker 7>large,  and  there  is  so  much  more  to  be  done 

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:36.149
<v Speaker 7>that we  really  need  to  scale  our  work.  There's  been  a 

0:27:36.150 --> 0:27:39.390
<v Speaker 7>lot  of  technological  advances  since  we  started  25  years  ago, 

0:27:39.390 --> 0:27:41.550
<v Speaker 7>and  we  need  to  be  embracing  some  of  those  and 

0:27:41.940 --> 0:27:44.850
<v Speaker 7>bringing  them  into  the  ways  that  we're  working.  The  work 

0:27:44.850 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 7>that  happens  in  this  seed  bank  is  literally  saving  plants 

0:27:48.510 --> 0:27:51.510
<v Speaker 7>and  stopping  us  losing  them.  So,  to  me  there  can't 

0:27:51.510 --> 0:27:53.070
<v Speaker 7>be  any  better  reason  to  get  out  better  than  that.

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<v Speaker 8>I  love  plants,  they're  our  drugs,  they're  our  food,  they 

0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:01.050
<v Speaker 8>are  lots  of  people's  livelihoods,  and  they're  under  so  much 

0:28:01.050 --> 0:28:06.300
<v Speaker 8>threat  from  land  loss  and  climate  change.  We  need  to 

0:28:06.330 --> 0:28:09.300
<v Speaker 8>save  these  seeds,  we  need  to  keep  them  alive,  we 

0:28:09.300 --> 0:28:12.330
<v Speaker 8>need  to  turn  them  into  plants.  I  feel  like  it's 

0:28:12.330 --> 0:28:15.690
<v Speaker 8>such  a  privilege  to  be  able  to  help  a  little 

0:28:15.690 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 8>bit  towards  that,  and  I'm  really  proud  to  work  here.

0:28:19.470 --> 0:28:22.500
<v Anne Visscher>Working  at  the  Millennium  Seed  Bank  allows  me  to  make 

0:28:22.500 --> 0:28:28.020
<v Anne Visscher>a  more  active  and  creative  contribution  to  stopping  biodiversity  loss. 

0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:32.820
<v Anne Visscher>Nowhere  else  on  earth  do  we  have  access  to  40,000 

0:28:32.820 --> 0:28:37.950
<v Anne Visscher>wild  plant  species  to  ask  questions  about  which  species  are 

0:28:37.950 --> 0:28:43.500
<v Anne Visscher>good  for  restoration  and  reforestation,  and  then  even  beyond  the 

0:28:43.500 --> 0:28:43.501
<v Anne Visscher>earth. 

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<v Speaker 9>The  MSB  is  like  a  treasure  in  the  future  for  everyone.

0:28:50.250 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 10>We  all  come  from  different  cultures,  different  countries,  but  we're 

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:58.890
<v Speaker 10>all  striving  for  the  same  goal,  whether  it's  conserving  biodiversity, 

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 10>ending  the  extinction  crisis,  ensuring  food  security  in  the  future, 

0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:05.550
<v Speaker 10>and  that's  what  I  find  is  very  rewarding.

0:29:06.900 --> 0:29:10.710
<v Louise Colville>The MSB is the  only  global  program  of  its  type,  and  it's  not 

0:29:10.710 --> 0:29:13.860
<v Louise Colville>just  about  the  collections  that  we've  acquired  over  the  last 

0:29:13.860 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Louise Colville>25  years  and  the  partnerships  we've  made,  but  it's  also 

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:19.020
<v Louise Colville>about  the  knowledge that  we've  generated  as  well,  whether  it's  in 

0:29:19.020 --> 0:29:22.410
<v Louise Colville>restoration  or  conservation.  We're  hopeful  for  the  future  and  that 

0:29:22.410 --> 0:29:23.430
<v Louise Colville>what  we're  doing  is  good.

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<v Speaker 11>I  think  when  you  work  in  conservation,  it  can  sometimes 

0:29:28.290 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 11>be  hard  to  feel  like  you're  having  an  impact,  but 

0:29:30.300 --> 0:29:34.020
<v Speaker 11>a  seed  bank,  to  take  seed  from  the  wild,  store 

0:29:34.020 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 11>it,  keep  it  safe,  study  it,  understand  it,  and  then 

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:41.190
<v Speaker 11>reintroduce  it,  it's  really  just  a  tangible  thing  that  we 

0:29:41.190 --> 0:29:44.340
<v Speaker 11>can  do  to  support  plant  conservation,  and  that  makes  it 

0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 11>very  satisfying  and  meaningful  to  me.

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<v Speaker 12>When  I  think of  the  Millennium  Seed  Bank,  I  think  the 

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:54.960
<v Speaker 12>strength  is  there's  so  many  people  working  together  and  connecting, 

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:59.220
<v Speaker 12>collaborating,  and  that's  what  allows  us  to  be  so  strong, 

0:29:59.310 --> 0:30:03.540
<v Speaker 12>even  in  the  face  of  climate  change  and  biodiversity  loss.

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<v Speaker 11>Always  talk  about  options  for  the  future,  and  that's  really 

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 11>what  it  feels  like.  It's  a  hopeful,  optimistic  approach  to 

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:10.229
<v Speaker 11>conservation,  I  think. 

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<v Speaker 13>I'm  proudest  of  the  fact  that  a  strange  ragbag  of 

0:30:17.220 --> 0:30:22.470
<v Speaker 13>individuals,  in  which  I  include  myself  quite  happily,  should  come 

0:30:22.470 --> 0:30:27.090
<v Speaker 13>together  and  do  something  that  had  global  significance.

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<v Cate Blanchett>Often  we  think  of  us  as  humans  as  being  part 

0:30:33.270 --> 0:30:37.470
<v Cate Blanchett>of  the  destruction  of  nature.  But  here  at  Wakehurst  we're 

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Cate Blanchett>poignantly  reminded  of  our  part,  and  what  a  responsible  and 

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Cate Blanchett>exciting  and  positive  part  we  can  play  in  the  regeneration 

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<v Cate Blanchett>of  nature.  And  every  single  person  I  spoke  to,  you 

0:30:48.450 --> 0:30:52.110
<v Cate Blanchett>can  tell  from  their  engagement  in  the  natural  world  and 

0:30:52.110 --> 0:30:55.860
<v Cate Blanchett>in  the  collection  of  seeds,  how  positive  they  are  about 

0:30:55.860 --> 0:30:59.460
<v Cate Blanchett>the  outlook  that  the  natural  world  has.  And  they  feel 

0:30:59.460 --> 0:31:03.210
<v Cate Blanchett>a  really  strong  responsibility  of  playing  their  role  within  that, 

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:07.170
<v Cate Blanchett>which  was  really  inspiring  to  hear.  I've  always  known  that 

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<v Cate Blanchett>the  seed  bank  is  an  important  place,  and  the  work 

0:31:10.140 --> 0:31:14.250
<v Cate Blanchett>that  goes  on  here  is  deep  time  and  meticulous,  but 

0:31:14.250 --> 0:31:17.730
<v Cate Blanchett>to  be  out  in  the  field  with  Ted  and  Isabel, 

0:31:17.730 --> 0:31:22.380
<v Cate Blanchett>and  watch  the  process  from  the  beginning  right  through  the 

0:31:22.380 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Cate Blanchett>process  of  sorting,  and  cleaning,  and  collection,  and  freezing,  it 

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:31.020
<v Cate Blanchett>reminds  me  how  hopeful  one  can  be,  that  the  work 

0:31:31.020 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Cate Blanchett>is  actually  happening  and  that  it's  happening  not  only  here 

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<v Cate Blanchett>in  this  country  but  around  the  world,  and  the  hub 

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<v Cate Blanchett>of  that  work  is  Wakehurst.
 And  I  just  think  everyone 

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<v Cate Blanchett>needs  to  come  here,  and  look  in  the  windows  and 

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<v Cate Blanchett>see  that  that  work  is  being  done,  because  what  it 

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<v Cate Blanchett>leaves  me  with  is  wanting  to  go  back  out  and 

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<v Cate Blanchett>grow  a  beautiful  garden  and  be  thankful  for  what  we 

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<v Cate Blanchett>all  have,  and  help  in  our  own  small  way  outside 

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<v Cate Blanchett>of  these  grounds  to  help  preserve  and  protect  it.  Often 

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<v Cate Blanchett>we  think, " Well,  it's  all  over.  There's  nothing  we  can 

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<v Cate Blanchett>do."  But  it  starts  with a  seed,  and  often  that  seed 

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<v Cate Blanchett>is  infinitesimal  and  then  it  will  grow  into  a  beautiful 

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<v Cate Blanchett>orchid,  or  a  massive  redwood,  or  a  Wollemi.  Just  walking 

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<v Cate Blanchett>through  the  garden  you're  reminded  of  the  role  that  science 

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<v Cate Blanchett>can  play  in  the  restoration  of  things  that  are  natural. 

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<v Cate Blanchett>They're  not  antithetical,  they're  inextricably  linked.
 A  huge,  huge  thank 

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<v Cate Blanchett>you  to  everyone  who  has  participated  in  this  story,  and 

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<v Cate Blanchett>everyone  I've  spoken  to,  the  scientists,  seed  collectors,  students,  and 

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<v Cate Blanchett>local  communities  whose  dedication  has  made  this  series  possible.  Every 

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<v Cate Blanchett>seed  collected,  every  experiment  tested,  every  partnership  built  is  a 

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<v Cate Blanchett>step  towards  regenerating  nature  and  protecting  biodiversity  for  generations  to 

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<v Cate Blanchett>come.  And  you  can  be  part  of  it  too.  By 

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<v Cate Blanchett>supporting  Kew's  Millennium  Seed  Bank,  you're  helping  protect  the  seeds of 

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<v Cate Blanchett>our  planet  and  the  future  they  promise.  Together,  we  can 

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<v Cate Blanchett>grow  a  world  where  nature  not  only  survives,  but  thrives. 

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<v Cate Blanchett>As  we  said  at  the  start,  life  begins  with  seeds, 

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<v Cate Blanchett>and  so  does  our  best  chance  to  save  it.  I'm 

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<v Cate Blanchett>Cate  Blanchett,  Kew's  ambassador  for  Wakehurst,  and  this  has  been 

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<v Cate Blanchett>Unearthed:  The  Need  for  Seeds.  Thanks  for  listening.