WEBVTT - ISAs and LISAs: Are you missing out?

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<v Kia>Welcome  to  another  episode  of  A  Little  Bit  Richer.  This 

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<v Kia>is  Kia,  and  today  we're  talking  ISAs.  We  touched  on 

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<v Kia>them  in  a  few  earlier  episodes,  but  we're  diving  a 

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<v Kia>little  bit  deeper.  You  may  notice  at  this  time  of 

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<v Kia>the  year  there's  always  a  bit  of  a  buzz  around 

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<v Kia>ISAs  because  we're  approaching  the  end  of  the  tax  year, 

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<v Kia>the  last  chance  to  use  your  annual  allowance.  And in  the 

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<v Kia>recent  budget,  a  new  ISA  was  announced,  so  we  thought 

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<v Kia>it  would  be  great  to  explain  the  basics  including  when an ISA is 

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<v Kia>a  good  idea  and  when  it  probably  isn't.
 A  Little 

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<v Kia>Bit  Richer  is  brought  to  you  by  Legal &amp;  General.  So 

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<v Kia>who  better  to  talk  about  this  topic  than  the  ISA 

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<v Kia>product  manager  at  Legal &amp;  General,  Fahad  Ahmed.  Welcome,  Fahad.

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<v Fahad Ahmed>Hi,  Kia.  Thanks  for  having  me.

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<v Kia>Thank  you  for  coming.  So,  could  you  talk  us  through 

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<v Kia>what  ISAs  are and the  different  types  and  why  could an ISA  be  useful 

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<v Kia>to  some  of  our  listeners?

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<v Fahad Ahmed>Absolutely.  So,  ISAs,  it  stands  for  an  individual  savings  account and it's a 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>tax  efficient  way  for  you  to  either  save  or  invest 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>your  money.  What  that  means  is  you  don't  have  to 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>pay  tax  on  any  returns  that  you  get,  which  is 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>obviously  it's  a  great  thing  because  it  means  more  money 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>in  your  pocket.
 There's  a  few  different  types  of ISAs.  So, 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>we've  got  stocks  and  shares  ISAs,  cash  ISAs,  lifetime  ISAs, 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>and  there's  even  junior  ISAs,  which is  for  under  18s.  We're 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>going  to  talk  more  about  what  each  ISA  is and  when 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>they  might  be  appropriate.  But  a  key  thing to bear in mind  is  that 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>you  don't  have  to  pick  just  one.  You  can  mix 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>and  match.  Just  as  long  as  you  don't  go  over 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>your  annual  allowance,  which  is  20K.
 So,  just  as  an 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>example,  you  could  put 1, 000  pounds  into  a  stocks  and 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>shares  ISA.  You  could  put  500  pound  into  a  cash 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>ISA,  and  if  you  want,  you  could  put  4, 000 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>pounds  into  a  lifetime  ISA.  At  the  moment,  you're  only 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>able  to  save  or  invest  into  one  of  each  type 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>of ISA  in  a  tax  year.  However,  this  is  going  to 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>be  changing  next  month.  In  the  new  tax  year,  you'll 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>be  able  to  save  or  invest  into  multiple  ISAs  of 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>the  same  type.

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<v Kia>So,  you've  explained  what  they  are,  which  is  great,  but 

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<v Kia>why  could  an  ISA  be  useful  to  some  of  our  listeners?

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<v Fahad Ahmed>It's  a  way  of  investing  or  saving  where  you  don't 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>have  to  pay  tax.  So,  that's  a  wonderful  advantage.  They're 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>a  good  way,  especially  stocks  and  shares  ISAs,  you  can 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>see  really  good  long- term  growth.

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<v Kia>Amazing.  So,  let's  just  say  you  might  have  some  money 

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<v Kia>and  you  want  to  save  it,  right?  But  you  might 

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<v Kia>need  it  in  the  next  few  years.  So,  opening  a 

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<v Kia>cash  ISA  might  be  the  option  that  you  go  for. 

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<v Kia>Can  you  give  us  a  bit  more  detail  on  these  accounts?

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<v Fahad Ahmed>Yeah,  for  sure.  So,  a  cash  ISA  is  a  type 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>of  savings  account  where  you  don't  have  to  pay  tax 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>on  the  interest  that  you  earn.  It's  good  for  shorter 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>term  savings.  When  we're  saying  shorter  term,  we're  talking  about 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>under  five  years.  There's  a  few  different  types  of  cash 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>ISAs.  So,  you've  got  instant  access  cash  ISA,  so  that 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>you  can  access  your  money  as  and  when  you  like. 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>You've  got  fixed  rate  cash  ISAs,  so  this  is  where 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>you  put  your  money  away  for  a  fixed  period  of 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>time,  it  is  usually  between  one and  five  years.  Then  you've 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>got  something  called  notice  cash  ISAs.  When  you  want  to 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>take  money  out  of  this,  you've  got  to  give  a 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>certain  period  of  notice,  usually  30  days,  60  days,  or 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>90  days.  And  then  finally,  you  have  regular  cash  ISA 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>or  regular  saver  cash  ISAs.  So,  with  these  you  have 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>to  commit  to  putting  in  a  certain  amount  every  month.


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<v Fahad Ahmed>The  thing  to  bear  in  mind  with  these  is  that there's 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>usually  a  trade- off  between  flexibility  and  the  interest  rate 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>that  you  get.  So,  for  example,  with  the  instant  access 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>cash  ISA,  since  that  one's  the  most  flexible,  it's  generally 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>going  to  offer  the  lowest  interest  rate.  Another  thing  to 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>bear  in  mind  is  that  the  interest  rate  that  you 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>get,  it  can  vary  quite  widely  depending  on  which  provider 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>you  go  with.
 If  you've  decided  you  want  to  go 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>for  a  cash  ISA,  you  want  to  do  your  research 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>and  compare  different  providers  and  make  sure  you're  getting  the 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>best  rate  out there.  The  best  way  to  do  this  is 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>just  to  jump  onto  Google,  search  best  cash  ISA,  and 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>then  what  you'll  get  is  comparison  websites.  If  you  go 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>onto  these  websites,  then  in  a  very  simple  way,  they'll 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>lay  out  tables  and  things  like  this and they'll  make  it  very 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>easy  for  you  to  identify  which  ISA  has  the  best 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>rate  for  you.

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<v Kia>I  think  that's  really  good,  like  you  said,  comparing  the 

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<v Kia>different  rates  and  understanding  the  trade- off  between  the  different 

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<v Kia>types  is  what  you  need  to  factor  in  depending  on 

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<v Kia>what  your  goal  is  for  your  money.
 A  question  that 

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<v Kia>I  know  a  lot  of  people  will  have  is  how 

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<v Kia>safe  is  their  money?  I  think  that's  all  that  people 

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<v Kia>think.  You're  saving  big  amounts,  but  is  my  money  safe? 

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<v Kia>So,  is  your  money  safe  if  you're  putting  it  into 

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<v Kia>something  like  a  cash  ISA?

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<v Fahad Ahmed>So,  what  you  need  to  make  sure  when  you  do 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>pick  a  provider,  you  need  to  make  sure  that  it's 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>UK  authorized  and  somewhere  on  the  provider's  website  there  should 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>be  mention  of  something  called  the  FSCS,  and  this  stands 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>for  Financial  Services  Compensation  Scheme.  This  will  make  sure  that 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>your  money  is  safe  and  secure  up  to  85,000.  Now, 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>obviously,  we  said  the  cash  ISA  limit  is 20, 000  a 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>year,  but  just  in  case  you're  somebody  who's  really  fortunate 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>and  has  that  much  money,  can  accumulate  that  over  the 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>years,  up  to 85, 000  pounds,  your  money  will  be  safe 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>and  secure.

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<v Kia>So,  if  someone  were  to  open  up  a  standard  savings 

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<v Kia>account,  so  i. e.,  not  an  ISA  account,  would  they 

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<v Kia>still  need  to  pay  tax  on  any  interest  that  they  earn?

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<v Fahad Ahmed>Not  necessarily.  So,  we  do  also  have  something  called  a 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>personal  savings  allowance.  Now,  if  you  are  a  basic  rate 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>taxpayer,  that  means  you're  currently  paying  20%  in  income  tax, 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>you  have  a  personal  savings  allowance  of 1, 000  pounds.  So, 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>what  this  means  is  that  you  can  earn  up  to 1,

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<v Fahad Ahmed>000  pounds  in  interest  before  you  have  to  worry  about 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>paying  any  tax  on  that.
 If  you  are  a  higher 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>rate  taxpayer,  so  you're  paying  40%  in  income  tax,  your 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>personal  savings  allowance  is  500  pounds.  And  that  means  you 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>can  earn  up  to  500  pounds  in  interest  without  having 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>to  pay  tax  on  it.  If  you earn, let's  say  for  example, 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>550  pounds,  the  500  pounds,  tax- free,  and  that  additional 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>50  pounds  you'll  have  to  pay  tax  on  that.
 So, 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>if you are  just  saving,  let's  say,  a  couple  of  hundred  pounds, 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>or  even  in  the  low  thousands,  it  might  be  the 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>case  that  a  standard  savings  account  is  actually  better  than 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>a  cash  ISA,  because  you  can  find  sometimes  they  have 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>better  rates.
 What  I  would  say,  though,  is  if  you 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>do  go  for  a  standard  savings  account,  make  sure  that 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>you're  keeping  an  eye  on  your  balance,  especially  if  you're 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>putting  money  in  on  a  regular  basis  every  month,  because 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>situations  can  change  quite  quick.  You  might  think,  oh,  you're 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>miles  away  from  actually  exceeding  your  personal  savings  allowance,  but 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>let's  say  you  get  a  salary  increase  that  pushes  you 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>to  be  a  higher  rate  taxpayer,  then  your  personal  savings 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>allowance  is  going  to  half  just  like  that.  So,  just 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>keep  an  eye  on  it  and  be  prepared  that at  some 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>point  over  the  coming  months  or  years,  just  be  ready 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>that it might be a  good  option  to  transfer  your  money  to  a  cash  ISA.

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<v Kia>That's  really  good  to  highlight.  I  think  a  lot  of 

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<v Kia>people  don't  realize  that  they  have  a  personal  savings  allowance.

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<v Fahad Ahmed>Yeah. Yeah.  Yeah.

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<v Kia>So,  like  you  said,  it's  just  keeping  in  mind  how 

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<v Kia>much  you earn and  how  much  tax are  you  paying  and  what  does 

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<v Kia>that  mean  for  your  savings?  And  maybe  do  you  need 

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<v Kia>to  switch  to  an  ISA  that's going to be  better  suited  for  you? 

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<v Kia>But  as  we  always  say,  personal  finance  is  personal,  so 

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<v Kia>make  sure  you're  making  decisions  that's  best  for  your  personal 

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<v Kia>situation.
 Let's  move  on  to  investing.  So,  if  someone  is 

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<v Kia>considering  investing  in  the  stock  market,  could  a  stocks  and 

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<v Kia>shares  ISA  be  worth  taking  a  look at?

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<v Fahad Ahmed>Yeah.  So,  I'm  going  to  be  a  little  bit  biased 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>because  of  my  job,  but  I  absolutely  love  stocks  and 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>shares  ISAs.  So,  first  of  all,  you've  got  that  tax-

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<v Fahad Ahmed>free  element  that  we  spoke  about.  So,  any  money  that 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>you  make  through  gains  in  the  stock  market,  you  don't 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>have  to  worry  about  paying  tax  on  it.
 The  good 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>thing  about  stocks  and  shares  ISAs  is  that  if  you 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>invest  for  the  long  term  and  we're  talking  about  over 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>five  years,  you  can  generally  expect  to  see  better  returns 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>than  what  you  would  see  if you  just  left  your  money 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>in,  let's  say,  your  current  account  or  even  a  cash 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>ISA.  So,  that's  another  thing  that's  really  good.
 I  do 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>need  to  stress  though  that  with  stocks and shares ISAs,  it's  an  investment 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>and  when  we're  talking  about  investing,  it's  all  about  the 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>long  term.  It's  all  about  that  minimum  five  years.  That's 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>the  key  number  to  remember.  But  the  longer  you  leave 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>your  money  invested,  the  more  chance  there  is  that  you'll 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>actually  see  positive  returns.  As  I  said,  though,  it's  an 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>investment,  so  your  money,  it  will  go  up  and  down 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>and  you  could  actually  get  back  less  than  you  put  in.

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<v Kia>Investing,  it's  always  that  thing,  people  are  thinking  about  the 

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<v Kia>future,  thinking  about  how  they  can  grow  their  money  and 

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<v Kia>it's  a  good  thing  to have a look at. If you do want  to  start  investing,  it's a  good 

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<v Kia>account  to  definitely  have  a  look  at.

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<v Fahad Ahmed>The thing is,  it's  really  good  for  beginners  and  that's  the  thing 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>that's  so  good  about  it.

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<v Kia>I agree.

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<v Fahad Ahmed>So,  even  if  I  think  back  to  myself  before  I 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>had  opened  a  stocks  and  shares  ISA,  let's  go  back 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>a  few  years,  so  even  before  I  was  working  in 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>financial  services,  anything  like  that,  when  I had  just  graduated,  I 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>was  actually  working  in  retail  at  the  time. And  it  was 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>the  first  time  I  had  a  little  bit  of  money 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>coming  in  each  month  that  I  didn't  have  an  immediate 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>need  for  it.  I  could  actually  put  it  aside  for 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>the  long  term.  And  obviously,  we've  heard  of  this  term 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>investing and  it's  something  I've  heard  of  and  I'm  thinking, " Maybe 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>I  should  invest  some  of  this  money."  But  the  thing 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>is, at the time I thought  it  was  something  that  was  so  far  away from me.

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<v Kia>Right?  It  seems  like  a  Wolf  of  Wall  Street,  that 

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<v Kia>kind  of  stuff,  that's  so  far  away  from  reality.

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<v Fahad Ahmed>Exactly,  Kia.  I thought it  was  for  people  that,  like  you  say, 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>Wolf  of  Wall  Street,  they  look  a  bit  different  to 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>us.  They've  definitely  got  more  money  than  us.  So,  to 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>be  honest,  I  put  it  aside  for  a  while,  I 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>didn't  think  it  was  accessible  for  me  and  I  found 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>it  a  little  bit  daunting.  But  when  I  came  across 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>stocks  and  shares  ISAs  and  in  particular  the  options  they 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>have  for  how  you  can  invest  in  it,  that's  when 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>I  realized,  oh,  actually,  this  could  be  for  me.
 So, 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>if  it's  okay,  I  could  just  touch  on  those  different 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>options  for  how  you  can  invest in  a  stocks  and  shares 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>ISA.  So,  there's  two  main  options.  The  first  one  is 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>what  we'd  call  a DIY  approach.  So,  this  is where  you  pick 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>your  own  investments.  You  can  pick  things  like  corporate  bonds, 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>government  bonds,  unit  trusts.  You  can  even  go  as  far 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>as  to  pick  your  own  individual  company  shares.  And  for 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>me,  back  then,  that's  what  seemed  a  little  bit  daunting. 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>To  be  honest,  even  today,  that  would  make  me a little bit nervous.

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<v Kia>It's a lot. It's very hands-on, isn't  it?

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<v Fahad Ahmed>Exactly.  Exactly.  So,  for  me,  it's  not  really  the  one. 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>What  I  like  is  the  second  option,  which  we  call 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>managed  portfolios.  Now,  with  a  managed  portfolio,  you  can  take 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>a  step  back,  you  invest  your  money  and  you  leave 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>it  to  the  professionals,  you  leave  it to  the  investment  experts 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>to  invest  your  money  on  your  behalf.
The  only  thing  that 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>you've  got  to  do  is  pick  what  level  of  risk 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>you  want  to  take.  So,  providers  that  have  this  option, 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>they'll  generally  have  a  couple  of  managed  portfolios,  maybe  three, 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>maybe  five,  that all  have  a  different  risk  rating.  So,  you've 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>just  got  to  decide  whether  you  want  to  go  for 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>the  lower  risk  one,  a  medium  risk  one,  a  higher 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>risk  one.  Sometimes  you'll  see  different  terminology.  They  might  use 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>words  like  cautious,  adventurous,  things  like  this, but  it's  the  same 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>concept.  And  it's  great  for  beginners  because  you  don't  have 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>to  have  a  huge  amount  of  knowledge.  You  can  just 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>take  a  step  back,  let  the  professionals  do  their  thing.

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<v Kia>I'm  glad  you  touched  on  that  because  I  think  it 

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<v Kia>is  good  to  highlight  that  you  don't  have  to  be 

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<v Kia>an  investing  whiz  to  start,  especially  with  stocks  and  shares 

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<v Kia>ISA,  there's  something  for  everyone.  I  think  that's  a  good 

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<v Kia>thing  when  it  comes  to  ISAs.
 So,  we've  mentioned  how 

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<v Kia>good  these  different  accounts  are  and  how  they  work,  but 

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<v Kia>what  should  someone  be  looking  for  when  it  comes  to 

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<v Kia>picking  the  right  provider  for  them?

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<v Fahad Ahmed>So,  there's  a  few  different  things.  I've  already  mentioned  options 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>for  how  to  invest.  Those  two  options  that  I  said, 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>not  all  providers  will  have  both  of  them.  Some  providers 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>have  both.  Some  will  only  have  one.  So,  it's  decide 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>beforehand  which  of  those  two  options  is  more  appealing  for 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>you  and  then  find  a  company  that  provides  that  option.


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<v Fahad Ahmed>Another  thing  would  be,  so  I  spoke  about  that  misconception 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>about,  I  thought  you  needed  more  money. So,  that's  another  thing 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>that  people  should  take  into  account  when  they're  picking  a 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>provider.  So,  I  don't  know  how  it  was  back  in 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>the  day,  but  nowadays,  it's  actually  very  accessible  and  with 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>a  lot  of  providers  you  can  get  started  with  just 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>very  small  amounts.  So,  our  L&amp; G  stocks  and  shares 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>ISA,  for  example,  you  can  get  started  with  just  either 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>20  pounds  a  month  or  a  100  pound  lump  sum. 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>And  that's  not  just  ours.  I  know,  a  lot  of 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>our  peers,  you  can  also  get  started  with  similarly  small 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>amounts,  but there may be  some  providers  where  you  need  a  minimum  of  5,

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<v Fahad Ahmed>000  pounds, 10, 000  pounds.  So  again,  that's  another  thing  to 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>take  into  account  when  picking  a  provider.  Another  thing  is 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>fees.  Now  fees  is-

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<v Kia>Big one.

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<v Fahad Ahmed>Yeah,  big  one,  because  it's  going  to  impact  how  much 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>money  you  actually  get  in  your  pocket.  So,  this  is 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>something  you  want  to  check.  Just  bear  in  mind  when 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>you're  checking  fees,  they  don't  all  charge  fees  in  the 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>same  way.  So,  some  providers,  they're  going  to  charge  a 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>fee  as  a  percentage  of  your  overall  investment.  Other  providers, 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>they're  going  to  charge  a  flat  monthly  fee.  So,  just 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>bear that  in  mind  when  you're  checking.
 Other  things  to  check 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>is  see  whether  or  not  you  can  change  where  your 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>money  is  invested.  And  by  that  I  mean,  remember  we 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>were  talking  about the  managed  portfolios?  Maybe  at  the  start  you 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>want  to  go  for  something  that's  higher  risk.  Maybe  at 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>some  point  your  circumstances  change,  you  want  to  move  your 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>money  into  a  more  cautious  portfolio.  So,  check  whether  this 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>is  possible  to  do  and  if  it  is,  just  check 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>if  there's  any  charges  associated  with  that,  because  that  varies 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>between  different  providers.
 So,  there's  another  one  I  wanted  to 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>speak  about,  which  is  certain  people  might  have  certain  values 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>that  come  from  a  religious  perspective,  so  these  people,  they 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>should  check  whether  they  provide  something  called  Sharia  compliant  funds. 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>I've  seen  some  research  recently  that  suggests  that a lot of  people  in 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>our  community,  I'm  speaking  as  a  Muslim,  a  lot  of 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>us,  we're  not  actually  aware  that  there's  these  options  that 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>exist  to  get  the  benefits  and  the  advantages  of  investing, 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>in  a  way  that  doesn't  compromise  our  faiths  and  our 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>beliefs.  So,  I  really  just  want  to  highlight  that.  A 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>lot  of  providers,  they  do  have  Sharia  compliant  funds  and 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>these  will  not  invest  your  money  in  things  such  as 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>gambling  or  alcohol  companies.  Anything  that  is  not  permissible  in 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>our  faith,  we  can  rest  assured  our  money  won't  be 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>invested in that. A lot of  people,  they're  not  aware  that  these  exist  and  it would 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>be  a  shame  if  people  are  missing  out.  That  doesn't 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>need  to  be  a  barrier  to  getting  involved  with investing.

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<v Kia>I  agree  with  you.  I'm  really  glad  you  brought  that 

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<v Kia>up  because  like  you  said,  there  is  something  for  everyone and 

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<v Kia>I  think  even  you  highlighting  that  just  goes  to  show 

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<v Kia>that  everyone  can  benefit  from  having  an  ISA.

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<v Fahad Ahmed>Hundred  percent.

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<v Kia>So,  let's  move  on  to  other  types  of  ISAs.  A 

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<v Kia>big  one  for  people  who  want  to  get on the  property  ladder 

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<v Kia>is  the  lifetime  ISA or the LISA.  So,  it  does  seem  like  a 

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<v Kia>really  good  one  if  you want  to  buy  a  property  one 

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<v Kia>day,  isn't  it?

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<v Fahad Ahmed>Yeah.  Yeah,  a  hundred  percent.  So, the LISA,  like  you  say,  it's 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>great  for  people  that  want  to  get  on the  property  ladder, 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>but they  don't  own  any  property  just  yet.  It's  aimed  towards 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>younger  people.  So,  if  you're  between  the  ages  of  18 and 39, 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>you  can  put  up  to 4, 000  pounds  into  a  LISA 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>every  tax  year  and  the  government  will  actually  top  this 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>up  by  an  additional  25%.
 So,  just  to  give  you 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>an  example,  give  you  some  numbers.  If  you  were  to 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>max  this  out  over  five  years,  you  would've  accumulated  20,000 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>pounds  in  your  savings  account,  in  your  LISA,  and  the 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>government  will  put  another  5K  on  top  of this.

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<v Kia>It's a good  chunk  of  money.

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<v Fahad Ahmed>It's  great  and  it's  genuinely,  it's  free  money.

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<v Kia>That's  my  favorite  word.  Free.  I  love  that.

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<v Fahad Ahmed>There  you  go.  So,  obviously  Kia  and  me  are  getting 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>quite  excited  about  this.

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<v Kia>Yeah,  we are.

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<v Fahad Ahmed>But, and there is always a but, there  are  some  rules  that  I've  got  to  tell  the listeners. 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>So,  if  for  any  reason  you  don't  want  to  use 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>your  money  to  buy  a  house,  you  can  alternatively  use 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>it  for  retirement  savings,  but  that  means  you  can't  really 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>touch  it  until  you're  the  age  of  60.  If  you 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>want  to  withdraw  your  money  before  you  turn  60  and 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>it's  not  to  buy  a  property,  there's  going  to  be 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>a  25%  penalty.  And  some  people  have  a  misconception  that 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>the  25%  penalty  just  means that  you  lose  your  25%  bonus. 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>But  actually,  without  getting  too  deep  into  the  maths  of 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>it,  you're  going  to  lose  your  government  bonus,  but  you're 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>also  going  to  lose  about  6%  of  your  initial  investment.

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<v Kia>It's  good  to  know.

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<v Fahad Ahmed>Yeah,  people  should  think  long  and  hard  before  they  open 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>one.  Like  we've  said,  they  are  really  great,  but  if 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>you're  thinking  maybe  renting  is  better  for  your  lifestyle,  maybe 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>you're  thinking  about  moving  abroad,  perhaps  the LISA  is  not  for 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>you.  Just  bear  that  in  mind.

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<v Kia>Yeah,  it's  good.  I'm  glad  you  highlighted  that.  And it's  also 

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<v Kia>good  to  note  that  a  lot  of  people  have  opened 

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<v Kia>it  up  and  think, " Right,  I  can  just  put  money 

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<v Kia>in there and  I  can  use  it  straight  away."  You also need to  have  it 

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<v Kia>open  for  12  months  before  you  can  use  it  towards 

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<v Kia>your  first  property.

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<v Fahad Ahmed>There  you go. There you go.

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<v Kia>There  are  some  caveats  to  keep  in  mind,  but  I 

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<v Kia>think  overall  the  lifetime  ISA  is  a  good  one  to have a look at 

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<v Kia>if  you  do  want  to  get on the  property  ladder  one  day.

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<v Fahad Ahmed>A  hundred  percent.  And  while  we're talking about the rules,  there's  just  one  more 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>we  should  have  probably  mentioned,  and  that's  the  fact  that 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>the  property  that  you  purchase,  it  has  to  be  under 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>the  price  of  450K.

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<v Kia>You've  given  us  a  lot  of  food  for  thought  there, 

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<v Kia>so  anyone  who's  in  between  that  questions  for  them,  I 

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<v Kia>think,  like  you  said,  it's  up  to  people's  personal  circumstance, 

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<v Kia>but  there's  lots  of  information  you've  given  us  that  people 

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<v Kia>can  pick  what's  going  to  be  best  for  them.
 There 

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<v Kia>have  been  a  few  changes  recently  when  it  comes  to ISAs, 

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<v Kia>so  can  you  give  us  a  bit  more  of  an 

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<v Kia>explanation  of  what  the  changes  are?

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<v Fahad Ahmed>So,  from  next  month  where  we  see  the  new  tax 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>year  begin,  we're  actually  going  to  be  able  to  put 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>money  into  multiple  ISAs of  the  same  type.  So,  just  as 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>an  example,  you  can  open  a  stocks  and  shares  ISA 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>with  one  company  and  put 1, 000  pound  in,  and  then 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>you  can  open  a  stocks  and  shares  ISA  with  another 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>company  and  put  500  pounds  in.  Right  now,  that's  not 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>allowed.  Next  month,  that  will  be  allowed.
 And  then  the 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>other  one,  which  was  just  mentioned  the  other  day  in 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>the  spring  budget,  something  called  the  British  ISA,  and  this 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>is  an  additional  5K  allowance  on  top  of  your  existing 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>20K  allowance,  specifically  designed  for  UK  investments.  At  the  moment, 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>there's  not  too  much  more  we  can  say  on  it. 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>It's  just  been  announced  and  we  don't  have  too  many 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>details.  What  I  would  say  is  if  it  is  something 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>that  sounds  like  it's  of  interest  to  you,  just  listen 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>out  for  further  updates.

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<v Kia>That's  really  good.  Keep  your  ear  on  the  ground.  But 

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<v Kia>there's  been  some  good  changes  for  people  to  hear  about 

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<v Kia>when  it  comes  to  what's  been  announced  recently.  And  also, 

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<v Kia>you  can  move  parts  of  your  money,  can't  you?  You 

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<v Kia>can  move  bits  from  one ISA to another. You don't have  to  move  whole  lump  sums.  Right?

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<v Fahad Ahmed>Exactly.  There  you  go.

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<v Kia>I  love  that.  Some  good  changes.  Good  changes.  Right.  Before 

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<v Kia>we  round  off  this  episode,  could  you  share  your  top 

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<v Kia>three  tips  when  it  comes  to  ISAs?

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<v Fahad Ahmed>Absolutely.  So,  my  first  top  tip  would  be ...  We've  spoken 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>a  lot  about  long- term  investing  and  things  like  this, 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>but  my  first  top  tip  would  actually  be,  make  sure 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>you've  got  a  sum  of  money,  a  pot  of  money 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>that  you  have  instantly  accessible  to  you.  So,  it's  what 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>people  would  refer  to  as  an  emergency  fund.  It  can 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>be in a cash ISA,  an  instant  access  cash  ISA.  We  never  know  what 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>the  future's  going  to  hold,  so  just  make  sure  you've 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>got  that  instantly  accessible.
 My  second  top  tip  would  be, 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>and  this  comes  from  personal  experience,  if  you  are  opting 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>for  a  stocks  and  shares  ISA,  there's  no  need  to 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>be  checking  your  balance  every  single  day.  There's  no  need 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>to  be  doing  that.  I  made  this  mistake,  I  just 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>wanted  to  look  at  it  all  the  time.  But  the 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>thing  is,  you  have  to  remember,  your  money's  going  to 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>go  up  and  down  and  it's  a  long- term  investment. 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>So,  if  you  do  fall  into  the  trap  of  checking 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>it  maybe  a  bit  more  than  you  should  initially  and 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>you're  in  the  red  and  your  money's  gone  down,  there's 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>no  need  to  panic.  Remember,  it's  a  long- term  game. 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>You're  investing  for  a  minimum of  five  years.  No  need  to 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>panic  if  it's  down  after  a  couple  of  days,  weeks, 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>or  even  months.
 My  third  top  tip  would  be  do 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>your  own  research  and  choose  what's  right  for  you.  So, 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>Kia  touched  on  it  earlier,  personal  finance,  it's  called  personal 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>because  it's  personal.

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<v Kia>It is.

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<v Fahad Ahmed>And it  depends  on  what's  happening  in  your  own  life  and 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>your  own  circumstances.  We  spoke  a  lot  today  about  a 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>lot  of  different  options,  a  lot  of  different  accounts.  Take 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>your  time,  do  your  own  research.  And  what's  right  for 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>your  best  friend,  or  your  dad,  or  Kia,  or  me, 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>it  might  not  necessarily  be  what's  best  for  you.  That's 

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<v Fahad Ahmed>my  third  top  tip.

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<v Kia>Fahad,  that  was  a  great  one  to  end  on.  I 

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<v Kia>love  that.  Make  sure  you  do  your  research  and  pick 

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<v Kia>what  is  best  for  you.  Thank  you  so  much  for 

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<v Kia>gracing  the  podcast  and  just  sharing  your  gems  when  it 

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<v Kia>comes  to  ISAs.

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<v Fahad Ahmed>Thank  you so much, Kia.

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<v Kia>Next  time,  I'll  be  having  a  friend of  the  show,  Andy 

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<v Kia>Webb,  back  to  talk  to  us  about  switching  bank  accounts 

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<v Kia>and  getting  the  most  out  of  your  account. In  the  meantime, 

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