1 00:00:00,210 --> 00:00:04,559 Clara Amfo: If it ever gets revealed that I called paparazzi on myself, please use this interview 2 00:00:04,740 --> 00:00:07,200 Clara Amfo: and be like, " Clara, you hypocrite and you idiot." Yeah, 3 00:00:07,650 --> 00:00:12,000 Clara Amfo: that was a really, yeah, really special gig. Yeah, memory 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,119 Clara Amfo: unlocked with that one. I've sat across Kendrick Lamar, Jay- 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,759 Clara Amfo: Z, Ariana Grande, whoever, and just Strictly and all of a 6 00:00:17,759 --> 00:00:19,468 Clara Amfo: sudden my mom, " Oh wow." 7 00:00:19,469 --> 00:00:20,579 Alex Legouix: Now you've made it there. 8 00:00:20,579 --> 00:00:20,819 Clara Amfo: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 9 00:00:21,750 --> 00:00:24,389 Alex Legouix: This is Show on the Road brought to you by 10 00:00:24,750 --> 00:00:28,409 Alex Legouix: Autotrader. We are driving famous faces on a personalized road 11 00:00:28,410 --> 00:00:31,950 Alex Legouix: trip, visiting the places that help shape them and hearing 12 00:00:31,950 --> 00:00:34,800 Alex Legouix: how the locations turn them into who they are today. 13 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,519 Alex Legouix: We've matched each celebrity with a car chosen specifically for 14 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:43,050 Alex Legouix: them. So, join me, Alex Legouix as we get this 15 00:00:43,140 --> 00:00:47,010 Alex Legouix: show on the road. Today I'm in South London, not 16 00:00:47,010 --> 00:00:51,330 Alex Legouix: far from Brixton, meeting, BBC Radio DJ and TV presenter, 17 00:00:51,330 --> 00:00:55,680 Alex Legouix: Clara Amfo. We've matched her with a Ford Mustang Mach- 18 00:00:55,740 --> 00:01:00,300 Alex Legouix: E, which I'm hoping she will absolutely love, especially because 19 00:01:00,300 --> 00:01:04,200 Alex Legouix: it has an incredible Bang & Olufsen sound system, which should 20 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,490 Alex Legouix: be right up her street. Let's see what she thinks. Hello? 21 00:01:08,490 --> 00:01:10,050 Clara Amfo: Hello. All right. 22 00:01:10,050 --> 00:01:10,051 Alex Legouix: Welcome. 23 00:01:10,051 --> 00:01:10,052 Clara Amfo: Fancy. 24 00:01:10,052 --> 00:01:15,690 Alex Legouix: It is the latest Ford and it's a Mustang Mach- E. 25 00:01:15,780 --> 00:01:17,100 Clara Amfo: It is very fab. 26 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,490 Alex Legouix: It is a cool car and it has a ridiculous sound system. So 27 00:01:20,490 --> 00:01:22,741 Alex Legouix: that's what we thought would be very Clara. 28 00:01:22,741 --> 00:01:27,298 Clara Amfo: I'm all about great sound quality all day. I literally 29 00:01:27,299 --> 00:01:30,389 Clara Amfo: can't do anything in silence. I don't think I can, 30 00:01:31,230 --> 00:01:33,869 Clara Amfo: whether it's on the way to work, in the shower, wherever, I always 31 00:01:33,870 --> 00:01:37,050 Clara Amfo: need music on. So I'm glad that there is a great sound system. 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,670 Alex Legouix: That's good. And it's also like it's got this acoustic glass so it cuts all of the 33 00:01:41,670 --> 00:01:45,240 Alex Legouix: sound outside out. So if you do have your music 34 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,610 Alex Legouix: on in here, it is proper sweet. 35 00:01:47,610 --> 00:01:48,360 Clara Amfo: Fabulous. 36 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:49,320 Alex Legouix: Happy? 37 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:49,380 Clara Amfo: Yeah. 38 00:01:50,130 --> 00:01:50,820 Alex Legouix: Good to go? 39 00:01:50,820 --> 00:01:51,960 Clara Amfo: Yeah, let's do it. 40 00:01:51,990 --> 00:01:54,210 Alex Legouix: Should we go and have a mooch around the world of 41 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:55,770 Alex Legouix: Clara Amfo? 42 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:56,579 Clara Amfo: Let's roll. 43 00:01:56,790 --> 00:01:58,530 Alex Legouix: We're going to start at Brixton Market. 44 00:01:58,530 --> 00:01:58,620 Clara Amfo: Fab. 45 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:00,930 Alex Legouix: Let's get this show on the road. 46 00:02:01,020 --> 00:02:01,260 Clara Amfo: Lovely. 47 00:02:06,870 --> 00:02:10,679 Alex Legouix: This is not obviously the car that you started your 48 00:02:11,070 --> 00:02:14,191 Alex Legouix: youth in, but it is a Ford. 49 00:02:14,191 --> 00:02:14,192 Clara Amfo: It is a Ford. 50 00:02:14,192 --> 00:02:14,193 Alex Legouix: It was Ford- 51 00:02:14,193 --> 00:02:14,194 Clara Amfo: Sierra. 52 00:02:14,194 --> 00:02:17,041 Alex Legouix: ... Sierra, right? 53 00:02:17,041 --> 00:02:19,650 Clara Amfo: And I still remember the license plate to this day, 54 00:02:19,650 --> 00:02:22,739 Clara Amfo: which I probably won't repeat on here, but that red car, 55 00:02:23,309 --> 00:02:25,950 Clara Amfo: that was just such a staple in our childhood. I remember 56 00:02:25,950 --> 00:02:28,590 Clara Amfo: actually drawing a picture of it as a kid. Because 57 00:02:28,590 --> 00:02:33,300 Clara Amfo: again, you don't think of, "This is how I live, this is the car that my daddy drives, my mommy 58 00:02:33,300 --> 00:02:37,619 Clara Amfo: drives," whatever. But yeah, well no, we loved that car, but my 59 00:02:37,620 --> 00:02:40,439 Clara Amfo: dad pretty much had it till it was falling to 60 00:02:40,469 --> 00:02:43,169 Clara Amfo: pieces. Because I've got a memory of it having brown 61 00:02:43,169 --> 00:02:47,790 Clara Amfo: tape on it, I think around the back... Yeah, the rear license plate. 62 00:02:47,790 --> 00:02:49,380 Alex Legouix: I think that's just a thing that you have to have on 63 00:02:49,380 --> 00:02:51,840 Alex Legouix: those old school cars as well. You keep it until it's 64 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,209 Alex Legouix: dying. Did it have the old school tape deck as 65 00:02:54,210 --> 00:02:55,591 Alex Legouix: well and stuff like that? 66 00:02:55,591 --> 00:03:00,090 Clara Amfo: I think so. For me, because that car, it definitely had 67 00:03:00,630 --> 00:03:04,169 Clara Amfo: old school radio tuner thingy in it. Because I think, 68 00:03:04,169 --> 00:03:07,530 Clara Amfo: yeah, my dad got... Because my dad passed away in 2015, 69 00:03:09,270 --> 00:03:13,380 Clara Amfo: he was driving loads in the early 2010s, 2000s or 70 00:03:13,380 --> 00:03:16,049 Clara Amfo: whatever, and the new car he got obviously had digital radio and 71 00:03:16,049 --> 00:03:18,840 Clara Amfo: stuff like that. But the Ford that we drove around 72 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,799 Clara Amfo: in as kids, yeah, he'd tune it. He loved listening to classical 73 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:27,540 Clara Amfo: music stations, but then local radio or whatever was on 74 00:03:27,540 --> 00:03:29,639 Clara Amfo: in the area that we'd be driving around in. But 75 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,260 Clara Amfo: yeah, no, I flipping loved that car, man. 76 00:03:31,349 --> 00:03:32,401 Alex Legouix: You have quite a few siblings, don't you? 77 00:03:32,401 --> 00:03:34,410 Clara Amfo: Yeah, I've got four brothers and one sister. 78 00:03:34,590 --> 00:03:36,029 Alex Legouix: And were you traveling quite a lot? 79 00:03:36,119 --> 00:03:38,160 Clara Amfo: Yeah. Oh yeah, loads and loads becasue we were brought up in 80 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,850 Clara Amfo: Kingston. But honestly, it's a really interesting one because I have 81 00:03:41,850 --> 00:03:45,330 Clara Amfo: this... Even though I was raised there, I sort of 82 00:03:45,330 --> 00:03:47,669 Clara Amfo: was and I wasn't in a weird sort of way 83 00:03:47,670 --> 00:03:53,820 Clara Amfo: because pretty much every weekend we would drive to Brixton, 84 00:03:54,059 --> 00:03:57,000 Clara Amfo: Balham, Peckham to (inaudible) . All the south and all 85 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,800 Clara Amfo: the south east, west London is essentially how I was 86 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,980 Clara Amfo: sort of raised by proxy in this car, going to 87 00:04:01,980 --> 00:04:06,870 Clara Amfo: visit relatives because those are really heavily populated Ghanaian areas. 88 00:04:06,900 --> 00:04:07,799 Alex Legouix: Yeah, okay. 89 00:04:08,099 --> 00:04:11,639 Clara Amfo: And obviously, my mom loves cooking Ghanaian food and so 90 00:04:11,639 --> 00:04:14,340 Clara Amfo: those are the markets that we go to as kids. Like 91 00:04:14,340 --> 00:04:17,609 Clara Amfo: Brixton Market, I know like the back of my hand. 92 00:04:17,610 --> 00:04:20,489 Clara Amfo: Brixton and Tooting Market were the two main ones we'd go 93 00:04:20,490 --> 00:04:22,589 Clara Amfo: to as kids, so that we drive from Kingston every 94 00:04:22,589 --> 00:04:25,830 Clara Amfo: weekend to go there. So I would get bits and bobs 95 00:04:25,830 --> 00:04:27,690 Clara Amfo: for cooking family meals and we'd just go and see 96 00:04:27,779 --> 00:04:31,680 Clara Amfo: relatives who were in those areas as well. So that 97 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:36,060 Clara Amfo: was a lot of my sort of formative journey time. I honestly 98 00:04:36,060 --> 00:04:38,998 Clara Amfo: feel like I spent... We know how they say that you spend, what is it, 90% 99 00:04:38,999 --> 00:04:41,280 Clara Amfo: of your life in bed or wherever? 100 00:04:41,370 --> 00:04:41,670 Alex Legouix: Yeah. 101 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:43,140 Clara Amfo: I think I spent 90% of my childhood life- 102 00:04:43,140 --> 00:04:43,140 Alex Legouix: In that car. 103 00:04:43,140 --> 00:04:45,390 Clara Amfo: ... in that Ford Sierra. Yeah. 104 00:04:46,260 --> 00:04:47,100 Alex Legouix: That's brilliant. 105 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:51,420 Clara Amfo: My parents came here in 1970 and my dad came 106 00:04:51,420 --> 00:04:53,940 Clara Amfo: over here to study and mum came over here to work as 107 00:04:53,940 --> 00:04:58,590 Clara Amfo: well. And they kind of found where their people... Obviously 108 00:04:58,710 --> 00:05:01,018 Clara Amfo: they assimilated and mix and match and met loads of 109 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,589 Clara Amfo: new people, but of course you want that home from 110 00:05:04,589 --> 00:05:09,870 Clara Amfo: home sort of thing. So going to those areas is really important 111 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,260 Clara Amfo: for us. And I think it was really fundamental, so 112 00:05:13,260 --> 00:05:17,489 Clara Amfo: we never forgot where our parents came from, where we 113 00:05:17,490 --> 00:05:21,630 Clara Amfo: came from. I always kind of dread to think how 114 00:05:21,630 --> 00:05:25,861 Clara Amfo: I would be if we didn't do those trips and those journeys. 115 00:05:25,861 --> 00:05:29,880 Alex Legouix: Such formative years and formative times, isn't it? And I 116 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,909 Alex Legouix: think there's something really bizarre about being in the car, 117 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,509 Alex Legouix: sort of what we're doing now, but where people end 118 00:05:36,509 --> 00:05:38,909 Alex Legouix: up talking about completely different things, don't they? And I 119 00:05:38,910 --> 00:05:44,100 Alex Legouix: think that that's something. Car journeys bring out things in families 120 00:05:44,100 --> 00:05:48,300 Alex Legouix: or in whoever's in the car. You end up doing some arguments, weird 121 00:05:48,300 --> 00:05:51,089 Alex Legouix: games, stuff that you don't really sit down and do 122 00:05:51,089 --> 00:05:51,570 Alex Legouix: in the lounge. 123 00:05:52,740 --> 00:05:54,959 Clara Amfo: No, that's true. Yeah, I think for me it was always, I used 124 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,390 Clara Amfo: to disassociate a lot as a kid really completely. And 125 00:05:58,229 --> 00:06:00,570 Clara Amfo: doing that thing of thinking you're in a music video, especially 126 00:06:00,570 --> 00:06:04,020 Clara Amfo: if the weather was rubbish, it was pouring down with 127 00:06:04,020 --> 00:06:06,810 Clara Amfo: rain and there was drizzle. I always follow a particular 128 00:06:06,810 --> 00:06:11,309 Clara Amfo: raindrop down the car window, just stare and sing songs 129 00:06:11,309 --> 00:06:15,389 Clara Amfo: or whatever and just just zone out. What sorts 130 00:06:15,389 --> 00:06:17,850 Alex Legouix: Of music were you into at that sort of age? Gosh, 131 00:06:18,330 --> 00:06:21,060 Clara Amfo: Everything really. Because the thing is when you're a kid, 132 00:06:21,180 --> 00:06:23,219 Clara Amfo: what your parents are going to listen to it almost 133 00:06:23,220 --> 00:06:27,420 Clara Amfo: like you're just sort of dictated to, its when you're in 134 00:06:27,510 --> 00:06:30,329 Clara Amfo: the car with your mum and dad, I think it was just always any 135 00:06:30,330 --> 00:06:34,799 Clara Amfo: sort of power ballad station, easy listening, that's what my 136 00:06:34,799 --> 00:06:38,339 Clara Amfo: dad was into and a lot of that classical music. But then we are 137 00:06:38,339 --> 00:06:40,260 Clara Amfo: listening to a lot of high life, which Ghanaian pop 138 00:06:40,260 --> 00:06:44,969 Clara Amfo: music because also the further you'd go in to South London, 139 00:06:45,210 --> 00:06:48,719 Clara Amfo: you'd pick up local stations, like local pirate stations. I 140 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,409 Clara Amfo: don't know, one second, it would be like UK garage and 141 00:06:52,409 --> 00:06:56,850 Clara Amfo: then it would be the local Ghanaian community station and then 142 00:06:56,850 --> 00:07:00,810 Clara Amfo: it'd be Classic FM and then Smooth FM or KISS or 143 00:07:00,810 --> 00:07:01,200 Clara Amfo: Radio 1, or like- 144 00:07:01,201 --> 00:07:02,070 Alex Legouix: Such an eclectic- 145 00:07:02,071 --> 00:07:05,219 Clara Amfo: ... whatever. So I kind of absorbed it all to 146 00:07:05,219 --> 00:07:08,129 Clara Amfo: be honest. But I think most of those stations at 147 00:07:08,130 --> 00:07:12,179 Clara Amfo: that time, I'm seeing that all those sort of easy listening sections 148 00:07:12,180 --> 00:07:15,450 Clara Amfo: that my dad would love. I think it must've been 149 00:07:15,450 --> 00:07:16,739 Clara Amfo: some sort of Celine Dion moment. 150 00:07:16,739 --> 00:07:17,701 Alex Legouix: I was literally about to say. 151 00:07:17,701 --> 00:07:20,940 Clara Amfo: Or Whitney. It'd be like Celine, Whitney or Mariah. One 152 00:07:20,940 --> 00:07:22,950 Clara Amfo: of the Holy Trinity or those sort of- 153 00:07:23,309 --> 00:07:24,120 Alex Legouix: Proper big characters. 154 00:07:24,420 --> 00:07:28,440 Clara Amfo: Yeah. And it just... Or Tony Braxton, Unbreak My Heart. 155 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:28,590 Alex Legouix: She was a mega. 156 00:07:28,591 --> 00:07:32,610 Clara Amfo: Yeah, any of those sorts of tunes, I would just 157 00:07:32,610 --> 00:07:36,390 Clara Amfo: be in my feelings not knowing any of those feelings 158 00:07:36,390 --> 00:07:36,869 Clara Amfo: but being like... 159 00:07:37,379 --> 00:07:39,360 Alex Legouix: Yeah, it's doing something to me and I can't know 160 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:40,080 Alex Legouix: what's happening. 161 00:07:40,170 --> 00:07:40,740 Clara Amfo: Exactly. 162 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,950 Alex Legouix: When you said that you would think about being in your 163 00:07:43,950 --> 00:07:47,100 Alex Legouix: own pop video, would you be the starring role? Would 164 00:07:47,100 --> 00:07:48,059 Alex Legouix: you be the singer? 165 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,130 Clara Amfo: Yeah, I would be a hundred percent. Oh my gosh. But- 166 00:07:50,130 --> 00:07:50,760 Alex Legouix: Can you sing? 167 00:07:50,850 --> 00:07:53,100 Clara Amfo: Oh, no, no, no. I like to sing but I can't sing at all. 168 00:07:53,430 --> 00:07:56,610 Clara Amfo: Absolutely not. But I think we've all got main character 169 00:07:56,610 --> 00:08:00,750 Clara Amfo: syndrome. I think it's been made worse by social media. 170 00:08:00,750 --> 00:08:02,040 Alex Legouix: So true. 171 00:08:02,100 --> 00:08:04,320 Clara Amfo: We've all got main character syndrome, baby. You just got to 172 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:05,999 Clara Amfo: lean in, accept it. 173 00:08:05,999 --> 00:08:10,290 Alex Legouix: Yeah. And what was little Clara like? Were you mischievous? Were 174 00:08:10,290 --> 00:08:11,431 Alex Legouix: you ambitious? Were you... 175 00:08:11,431 --> 00:08:16,080 Clara Amfo: I was a little bit mischievous. I think everyone thinks they're 176 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,450 Clara Amfo: a weird kid because I think kids are weird. I 177 00:08:18,450 --> 00:08:22,320 Clara Amfo: think I liked that about being a kid. Well, looking 178 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,170 Clara Amfo: back now, I think I liked that about myself. I 179 00:08:25,170 --> 00:08:29,370 Clara Amfo: was really chatty. But then I also, I quite liked 180 00:08:29,370 --> 00:08:33,870 Clara Amfo: my own company as well and I just... Yeah, I was a proper 181 00:08:33,870 --> 00:08:36,420 Clara Amfo: little... I was a little daydreamer and I was a 182 00:08:36,420 --> 00:08:37,469 Clara Amfo: chatter box. 183 00:08:38,490 --> 00:08:40,980 Alex Legouix: Liking your own company is quite useful when you're a 184 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:42,959 Alex Legouix: radio DJ, I would imagine. 185 00:08:43,020 --> 00:08:47,130 Clara Amfo: It's quite a solitary job because I forget how many 186 00:08:47,309 --> 00:08:51,449 Clara Amfo: millions of people I'm speaking to because essentially it's just 187 00:08:51,450 --> 00:08:54,660 Clara Amfo: me in the studio. And yeah, I've got my production team but 188 00:08:55,500 --> 00:08:59,699 Clara Amfo: even that was challenged because even the pandemic. Just when 189 00:08:59,699 --> 00:09:01,800 Clara Amfo: we were in the proper thick of it, my job 190 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,679 Clara Amfo: was really solitary because I can have my producers in 191 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,350 Clara Amfo: my radio show in the room with me because usually there'd 192 00:09:07,350 --> 00:09:10,589 Clara Amfo: be like... Could have anything up to six or seven 193 00:09:10,590 --> 00:09:13,080 Clara Amfo: people in the room. But then with social distancing and 194 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,939 Clara Amfo: all of that, for the first, I think, year of the pandemic, 195 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,160 Clara Amfo: couldn't have my producers in the room, we'd always hug 196 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,590 Clara Amfo: and say hello, couldn't do none of that, couldn't have any 197 00:09:22,590 --> 00:09:26,880 Clara Amfo: guests in. Everything was done online and it was a 198 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:33,000 Clara Amfo: very weird experience. Because I'm so used to walking into 199 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:39,090 Clara Amfo: a bustling office, everyone's there, walking into the studio and 200 00:09:39,090 --> 00:09:41,730 Clara Amfo: just high five people, like whatever. But that's why the 201 00:09:41,730 --> 00:09:43,949 Clara Amfo: listeners are so vital because at least you've someone to chat to. 202 00:09:43,950 --> 00:09:45,809 Alex Legouix: That's so true. 203 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:46,289 Clara Amfo: You know? 204 00:09:50,580 --> 00:09:52,949 Alex Legouix: We are close, aren't we now to- 205 00:09:52,949 --> 00:09:52,950 Clara Amfo: Yeah, we're in Briton. 206 00:09:52,950 --> 00:09:55,111 Alex Legouix: ... Brixton and Brixton Market, right? 207 00:09:55,111 --> 00:09:57,569 Clara Amfo: Because I'm seeing the Ritzy Cinema. And I was just here 208 00:09:57,900 --> 00:10:00,270 Clara Amfo: the other week with one of my dear friends, Kieran. We went 209 00:10:00,270 --> 00:10:02,700 Clara Amfo: to see that movie Rye Lane, set in Peckham, and 210 00:10:03,750 --> 00:10:06,149 Clara Amfo: actually they filmed a lot of it in Peckham and 211 00:10:06,150 --> 00:10:08,639 Clara Amfo: in Brixton, funnily enough. I love Brixton. 212 00:10:08,730 --> 00:10:10,889 Alex Legouix: And so this has been a very big part of your 213 00:10:10,889 --> 00:10:12,691 Alex Legouix: life, hasn't it? Brixton, Brixton market? 214 00:10:12,691 --> 00:10:12,692 Clara Amfo: Mm-hmm. Yeah. 215 00:10:12,692 --> 00:10:15,600 Alex Legouix: Like you said earlier about your mom coming or you 216 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,000 Alex Legouix: guys going to the market and getting your foods and 217 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:18,331 Alex Legouix: stuff like that. 218 00:10:18,331 --> 00:10:23,189 Clara Amfo: Yep. I love Brixton and I think it's just got 219 00:10:23,190 --> 00:10:27,330 Clara Amfo: a character to it. It is like every borough and every town 220 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:32,189 Clara Amfo: has got such a distinctive personality. And I think there's 221 00:10:32,190 --> 00:10:33,660 Clara Amfo: nowhere else like Brixton in London. 222 00:10:34,260 --> 00:10:34,470 Alex Legouix: No. 223 00:10:34,470 --> 00:10:36,748 Clara Amfo: I think the beautiful thing about Brixton is it is 224 00:10:36,809 --> 00:10:41,340 Clara Amfo: the second- geners and the first-geners of the Windrush kids and people 225 00:10:41,820 --> 00:10:44,700 Clara Amfo: that make it what it is. It's that thriving Afro- 226 00:10:44,700 --> 00:10:51,838 Clara Amfo: Caribbean community that give it so much flavor and vibrancy. I 227 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:56,098 Clara Amfo: think it's really important for Brixton to hold onto that 228 00:10:56,099 --> 00:11:01,290 Clara Amfo: because as we know, gentrification is a wild beast. And 229 00:11:01,290 --> 00:11:03,689 Clara Amfo: of course you want areas, sites to develop and to 230 00:11:03,690 --> 00:11:06,780 Clara Amfo: be invested in, but you don't want it to be at the detriment of the 231 00:11:06,780 --> 00:11:10,890 Clara Amfo: people that built the community. Because that's the thing, anywhere 232 00:11:10,890 --> 00:11:14,370 Clara Amfo: up and down the UK, anywhere that's got any sort 233 00:11:14,370 --> 00:11:19,348 Clara Amfo: of, in my personal opinion, any coolness and just intrigue around 234 00:11:19,349 --> 00:11:22,319 Clara Amfo: it and... Even that, see look coming up, you see 235 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,320 Clara Amfo: the Ritzy Cinema, " Happy 20th birthday, street classes. Thank you 236 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,190 Clara Amfo: Brixton for loving us." These are the people that make a community 237 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,490 Clara Amfo: what it is and they need to be cherished and protected. 238 00:11:32,940 --> 00:11:34,500 Alex Legouix: What would the market have been like? 239 00:11:35,130 --> 00:11:38,040 Clara Amfo: The market? I've got always super, super busy. Because I 240 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,310 Clara Amfo: think one thing about Brixton, Brixton market, for me that is 241 00:11:41,609 --> 00:11:45,120 Clara Amfo: a very sensory thing, is the smell of fresh meat. 242 00:11:45,300 --> 00:11:45,300 Alex Legouix: Yeah, yeah, that's so true. 243 00:11:45,300 --> 00:11:49,439 Clara Amfo: Yeah. That's where it always goes, straight to the butchers, 244 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,139 Clara Amfo: straight to the butchers around that Cold Harbor Lane, Electric 245 00:11:52,139 --> 00:11:54,809 Clara Amfo: Avenue, all this area because my mum would just go 246 00:11:54,809 --> 00:12:00,270 Clara Amfo: and get loads of lamb, chicken, goat to make traditional 247 00:12:00,449 --> 00:12:03,720 Clara Amfo: Ghanaian meals. That was our thing. But then there'd also 248 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,740 Clara Amfo: be people with their sort of pop- ups selling already 249 00:12:08,340 --> 00:12:11,550 Clara Amfo: made meals. And I'm seeing that more actually because obviously, that 250 00:12:11,550 --> 00:12:15,569 Clara Amfo: sort of pop- up culture is definitely more prevalent now. 251 00:12:15,870 --> 00:12:18,750 Clara Amfo: And now you are seeing people do like, " Oh, my 252 00:12:18,750 --> 00:12:21,360 Clara Amfo: mom taught me how to make this dish. I'm from 253 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,570 Clara Amfo: this country." And now you can get a little box 254 00:12:25,740 --> 00:12:28,319 Clara Amfo: of food takeaway away. And that wasn't as prevalent when I 255 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,449 Clara Amfo: was growing up. So that's really cool to see. Yeah, 256 00:12:30,450 --> 00:12:34,889 Clara Amfo: that's definitely the thing driving around here, it is that 257 00:12:34,889 --> 00:12:40,350 Clara Amfo: smell of just nicely cooked food, but also raw food. 258 00:12:40,350 --> 00:12:42,030 Clara Amfo: Just feeling the busyness. 259 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,368 Alex Legouix: Yeah, the vibrancy and... 260 00:12:44,609 --> 00:12:47,219 Clara Amfo: Feeling the busyness for sure. I don't think I've ever 261 00:12:47,219 --> 00:12:51,089 Clara Amfo: seen Brixton quiet, because even when you're walking around at 02: 00 262 00:12:51,089 --> 00:12:53,008 Clara Amfo: or 3: 00 am, people are coming out from clubs, bars 263 00:12:53,010 --> 00:12:55,500 Clara Amfo: or whatever. And obviously Brixton Academy is here, which is such 264 00:12:55,500 --> 00:12:59,100 Clara Amfo: a formative part of my... I mean, it still is. 265 00:12:59,309 --> 00:13:00,838 Clara Amfo: I can't even tell you how many gigs I've been 266 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,649 Clara Amfo: to then and every single artist I interview, especially the 267 00:13:04,650 --> 00:13:07,950 Clara Amfo: ones who were brought up round here, that is their 268 00:13:07,950 --> 00:13:11,010 Clara Amfo: mecca of, " I need to play there." 269 00:13:13,620 --> 00:13:16,200 Alex Legouix: Your very first gig memories, are they from round here? 270 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,001 Clara Amfo: Oh gosh, yeah. I'm trying to think about who was 271 00:13:18,540 --> 00:13:21,089 Clara Amfo: one of the first acts that I saw, because I keep 272 00:13:21,090 --> 00:13:23,309 Clara Amfo: tickets stubs from pretty much every gig that I go to. 273 00:13:23,309 --> 00:13:23,459 Alex Legouix: Oh do you? That's nice. 274 00:13:23,459 --> 00:13:30,299 Clara Amfo: No, I've got shoe boxes full of ticket stubs. Even 275 00:13:30,299 --> 00:13:32,730 Clara Amfo: though we can get things on our phone wherever possible, if 276 00:13:32,730 --> 00:13:36,000 Clara Amfo: I can get a physical ticket stub, I'm keeping it 277 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,640 Clara Amfo: because I am quite sentimental. 278 00:13:39,450 --> 00:13:41,460 Alex Legouix: But you touched on the fact that your dad passed. 279 00:13:41,730 --> 00:13:41,790 Clara Amfo: Yeah. 280 00:13:42,870 --> 00:13:48,120 Alex Legouix: That I imagine was obviously pretty tough and something that 281 00:13:48,870 --> 00:13:51,090 Alex Legouix: I know has come up since and I wondered how 282 00:13:51,090 --> 00:13:55,710 Alex Legouix: you cope with that, but having to still be the 283 00:13:56,010 --> 00:13:58,620 Alex Legouix: upbeat Clara Amfo for the shows. 284 00:13:59,910 --> 00:14:02,160 Clara Amfo: I speak about my dad often and I did go 285 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:06,359 Clara Amfo: for a point and thinking, should I not speak about 286 00:14:06,359 --> 00:14:09,420 Clara Amfo: it so much? Because I think the thing about doing 287 00:14:09,420 --> 00:14:11,790 Clara Amfo: any sort of public facing job, but especially in broadcast, 288 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,670 Clara Amfo: once you say something or you put something out there, 289 00:14:14,910 --> 00:14:17,250 Clara Amfo: people are always going to want to talk about it. And I get there 290 00:14:17,250 --> 00:14:20,849 Clara Amfo: and I think, I don't ever want to shy away 291 00:14:20,849 --> 00:14:26,040 Clara Amfo: from talking about death because one thing that I've learned 292 00:14:26,430 --> 00:14:29,040 Clara Amfo: since my dad passed is that I think we're making 293 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,250 Clara Amfo: progress as a society in the UK, but I think 294 00:14:32,340 --> 00:14:38,759 Clara Amfo: British people have still got a very conservative way of 295 00:14:38,759 --> 00:14:42,180 Clara Amfo: dealing with death still. I don't think it's necessarily there's 296 00:14:42,210 --> 00:14:45,060 Clara Amfo: shame around it, but I think there's just an awkwardness. People don't 297 00:14:45,060 --> 00:14:48,420 Clara Amfo: really know what to do and it's like, " Listen, we're 298 00:14:48,420 --> 00:14:50,130 Clara Amfo: all going to die whether we like it or not, 299 00:14:50,849 --> 00:14:54,750 Clara Amfo: that's just life." And I think when it came to 300 00:14:54,750 --> 00:14:58,289 Clara Amfo: my dealing with bereavement, it was an interesting one and it's something 301 00:14:58,289 --> 00:15:01,320 Clara Amfo: that I'm still sort of trying to unpack now really. 302 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:06,720 Clara Amfo: Because I remember when my dad died, I was literally 303 00:15:07,020 --> 00:15:12,029 Clara Amfo: back to work a week or 10 days later. And 304 00:15:12,030 --> 00:15:15,599 Clara Amfo: the thing is, radio were amazing with me. The duty 305 00:15:15,599 --> 00:15:18,240 Clara Amfo: of care was great. They said, " You take off all 306 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:19,920 Clara Amfo: the time you need." But I think I was in so much 307 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,910 Clara Amfo: shock. Because I remember I joined Radio 1 in 2015 308 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,030 Clara Amfo: and I remember I got the job offer and I remember I 309 00:15:27,030 --> 00:15:29,580 Clara Amfo: was doing this photo shoot for a magazine that was 310 00:15:29,580 --> 00:15:33,359 Clara Amfo: sort of announcing my new role and, " Here's Clara, she's 311 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:34,950 Clara Amfo: taken over from Fearne," and dah, dah dah, dah, dah. 312 00:15:35,879 --> 00:15:38,880 Clara Amfo: And at that shoot, I had literally been talking to my 313 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:43,500 Clara Amfo: dad that day and then I was going to France 314 00:15:43,860 --> 00:15:46,170 Clara Amfo: maybe a couple days later to run the Paris Half 315 00:15:46,170 --> 00:15:47,790 Clara Amfo: Marathon. I found out my dad had passed away when I 316 00:15:47,790 --> 00:15:50,130 Clara Amfo: was in Paris and he knew about me getting the 317 00:15:50,130 --> 00:15:52,289 Clara Amfo: job at Radio 1 and then, yeah, then he died. 318 00:15:52,770 --> 00:15:57,120 Clara Amfo: And then I was back on air a week or 319 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,220 Clara Amfo: two later, and there were times when I was doing 320 00:15:59,220 --> 00:16:04,469 Clara Amfo: the show in the months after he passed where I'd be 321 00:16:04,469 --> 00:16:06,840 Clara Amfo: fine doing a link. So I'd be like, " Okay, up next is 322 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:12,090 Clara Amfo: Little Mix and then I'd just be sobbing uncontrollably under 323 00:16:12,090 --> 00:16:13,980 Clara Amfo: the desk or at the mic and then I'd have 324 00:16:13,980 --> 00:16:17,100 Clara Amfo: to be like, suck it up and then carry on. And 325 00:16:17,190 --> 00:16:19,950 Clara Amfo: again, looking back now, I'm like, " Bloody hell, Clara. You 326 00:16:19,950 --> 00:16:24,420 Clara Amfo: should have allowed yourself more time and more sort of 327 00:16:24,420 --> 00:16:27,660 Clara Amfo: patience with yourself." But it was such an new experience 328 00:16:27,660 --> 00:16:32,729 Clara Amfo: to me. I've never experienced death like that. I had a 329 00:16:32,730 --> 00:16:37,470 Clara Amfo: friend who passed away when I was a teenager, but 330 00:16:38,190 --> 00:16:42,660 Clara Amfo: until that point, I hadn't experienced a close death like that. It 331 00:16:42,660 --> 00:16:45,839 Clara Amfo: was a weird experience having to switch on the old 332 00:16:45,839 --> 00:16:49,740 Clara Amfo: razzle dazzle when I felt like I was just crumbling. 333 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,900 Clara Amfo: But that is very symptomatic, I think of what British 334 00:16:54,900 --> 00:16:59,400 Clara Amfo: people do. It's so embedded into our way of thinking. 335 00:16:59,820 --> 00:17:03,030 Clara Amfo: Think about the slogan, " Cute, calm, and carry on." Obviously 336 00:17:03,030 --> 00:17:06,630 Clara Amfo: that's used in wartime, but I think we apply that 337 00:17:06,630 --> 00:17:07,410 Clara Amfo: to so many things. 338 00:17:07,410 --> 00:17:07,561 Alex Legouix: Yeah, we do. 339 00:17:07,561 --> 00:17:13,260 Clara Amfo: For anyone listening to this, if you are going through bereavement, my 340 00:17:13,260 --> 00:17:15,960 Clara Amfo: advice would be you've really just got to let yourself 341 00:17:16,230 --> 00:17:22,019 Clara Amfo: feel everything. You really have to, because I never pretended 342 00:17:22,020 --> 00:17:28,590 Clara Amfo: not to be sad per se, but I do wish 343 00:17:28,590 --> 00:17:34,350 Clara Amfo: I allowed myself just to sit with the pain and 344 00:17:34,859 --> 00:17:40,708 Clara Amfo: just the news of it all for a little bit 345 00:17:40,830 --> 00:17:45,750 Clara Amfo: longer rather than just chucking myself into activity. But then 346 00:17:45,750 --> 00:17:49,560 Clara Amfo: at the same time, I think going back to work 347 00:17:50,130 --> 00:17:52,349 Clara Amfo: and having that routine kind of saved me as well. 348 00:17:52,530 --> 00:17:57,359 Clara Amfo: It's a double- edged sword, to be honest. And everyone's process of 349 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:01,379 Clara Amfo: dealing with death is so different. And the thing I 350 00:18:01,380 --> 00:18:04,138 Clara Amfo: always tell people as well is that you don't have to 351 00:18:04,140 --> 00:18:06,720 Clara Amfo: get over it. I don't believe in it. You learn 352 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,388 Clara Amfo: how to deal with it. And I think that is fine. 353 00:18:09,388 --> 00:18:11,758 Clara Amfo: That's something that I do advocate for, learning how to 354 00:18:11,759 --> 00:18:13,590 Clara Amfo: deal with it, but you never have to get over 355 00:18:13,590 --> 00:18:20,460 Clara Amfo: it. I think it's such a bizarre ask of somebody 356 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,359 Clara Amfo: to get over somebody who lived a whole full, rich 357 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,000 Clara Amfo: life. You can't just click your fingers and it's like, " 358 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,340 Clara Amfo: Oh yeah, they were never there." 359 00:18:29,369 --> 00:18:30,750 Alex Legouix: They're there in everything still. 360 00:18:30,750 --> 00:18:31,290 Clara Amfo: But that's it. 361 00:18:31,650 --> 00:18:34,139 Alex Legouix: For most people, they're there forever more. 362 00:18:34,140 --> 00:18:34,530 Clara Amfo: That's it. 363 00:18:35,129 --> 00:18:37,470 Alex Legouix: And it's more for the other people around you, I 364 00:18:37,470 --> 00:18:40,500 Alex Legouix: think, that you end up having to make out that 365 00:18:40,500 --> 00:18:43,531 Alex Legouix: you've got over it because other people can't deal with that level of grief. 366 00:18:43,531 --> 00:18:46,410 Clara Amfo: Yeah, 100%. 100%. 367 00:18:52,289 --> 00:18:55,110 Alex Legouix: What's it like being interviewed rather than interviewing? 368 00:18:55,289 --> 00:18:58,890 Clara Amfo: It's nice to have a day off of just jamming the 369 00:18:58,890 --> 00:19:02,758 Clara Amfo: car. But yeah, I don't mind it. I like talking to 370 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,809 Clara Amfo: people. I'm interested in people. I'm interested in the choice 371 00:19:06,809 --> 00:19:09,119 Clara Amfo: of the questions people have for me because I know 372 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,939 Clara Amfo: what it's like to try and construct an interview. And 373 00:19:11,939 --> 00:19:14,070 Clara Amfo: obviously, there's all different types of interviews you can do because I do... Obviously, 374 00:19:14,700 --> 00:19:18,240 Clara Amfo: I do radio and some of the interviews I get, I'll 375 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,469 Clara Amfo: get four to five minutes with somebody, but then I might 376 00:19:22,469 --> 00:19:25,770 Clara Amfo: do a film premiere and I'll get maybe 10 minutes 377 00:19:25,770 --> 00:19:28,020 Clara Amfo: or I might do a long form interview with an actor 378 00:19:28,980 --> 00:19:30,869 Clara Amfo: or whoever and then I might get half an hour 379 00:19:30,869 --> 00:19:34,680 Clara Amfo: with them. It really depends. And you adapt your skillset for 380 00:19:34,830 --> 00:19:38,760 Clara Amfo: different people and situations. Sometimes you're live, so you've only 381 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,240 Clara Amfo: got sometimes even a minute. Get this person, ask them 382 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,168 Clara Amfo: this, boom! You're done, and it's highly pressurized. 383 00:19:47,250 --> 00:19:50,220 Alex Legouix: And you have those moments where like, " Why did that 384 00:19:50,220 --> 00:19:50,521 Alex Legouix: come out of my mouth?" 385 00:19:50,521 --> 00:19:50,580 Clara Amfo: Yeah, yeah, exactly. 386 00:19:51,570 --> 00:19:52,890 Alex Legouix: I have one question. 387 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,500 Clara Amfo: Yeah, exactly. 388 00:19:55,950 --> 00:19:56,550 Alex Legouix: Why did I choose that one? 389 00:19:56,550 --> 00:20:00,901 Clara Amfo: Exactly. Oh my God. Yeah. The amount of times I've been like, "Clara, you absolute idiot." Or just, "Did I really say that out loud?" 390 00:20:00,901 --> 00:20:00,902 Alex Legouix: Yeah. 391 00:20:00,902 --> 00:20:08,910 Clara Amfo: Yeah, because a mixture of adrenaline, natural nerves, you know- 392 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:09,750 Alex Legouix: Exhaustion. 393 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,140 Clara Amfo: Yeah, all of it can affect how you do your job. Because 394 00:20:13,140 --> 00:20:15,510 Clara Amfo: you can go in with the best of intentions, " I'm going 395 00:20:15,510 --> 00:20:19,918 Clara Amfo: to smash this interview," and then sometimes it doesn't go the way you plan. And 396 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,738 Clara Amfo: sometimes that can be really, really good because even though 397 00:20:22,740 --> 00:20:25,080 Clara Amfo: I like to have a structure of how I work, I 398 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,880 Clara Amfo: also enjoy knowing that a conversation can go anywhere, which 399 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,549 Clara Amfo: I'm sure you know, you experience all the time doing this as 400 00:20:32,550 --> 00:20:34,918 Clara Amfo: well. It's like, yeah, you have your plan, but you 401 00:20:36,179 --> 00:20:38,010 Clara Amfo: never know where chats are going to go. And I think that's 402 00:20:38,790 --> 00:20:39,599 Clara Amfo: the novelty of it for me. 403 00:20:39,599 --> 00:20:43,290 Alex Legouix: I completely agree. Do you think that you are... Is 404 00:20:43,290 --> 00:20:45,541 Alex Legouix: it people that you're curious about as well as- 405 00:20:45,541 --> 00:20:45,542 Clara Amfo: Oh, definitely. 406 00:20:45,542 --> 00:20:49,350 Alex Legouix: ... Obviously, I know we actually haven't spoken enough about 407 00:20:49,350 --> 00:20:52,500 Alex Legouix: music and we will do, but is it people and 408 00:20:52,500 --> 00:20:53,879 Alex Legouix: what makes them? 409 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,928 Clara Amfo: Oh, a hundred percent. I think actually, I've got equal love 410 00:20:57,929 --> 00:21:02,130 Clara Amfo: for... equal curiosity about people as much as I do 411 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:08,550 Clara Amfo: any arts and culture. It's like music, theater, film, whatever. 412 00:21:08,550 --> 00:21:12,119 Clara Amfo: I'm just interested in people and why we do the 413 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:17,100 Clara Amfo: things we do, why we're into what we're into. I 414 00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:21,359 Clara Amfo: love the word curious because essentially, it's more chiccer way 415 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:22,350 Clara Amfo: of saying I'm nosy. 416 00:21:22,650 --> 00:21:24,240 Alex Legouix: That is so true. 417 00:21:24,510 --> 00:21:25,769 Clara Amfo: It's just nosy, make it chic. 418 00:21:25,769 --> 00:21:26,699 Alex Legouix: I'm really nosy. 419 00:21:26,759 --> 00:21:33,569 Clara Amfo: Yeah, I'm nosy as fuck. Yeah, I am. I am. People are 420 00:21:33,569 --> 00:21:40,530 Clara Amfo: interesting, man. Even driving around now, there's a man I'm 421 00:21:40,530 --> 00:21:44,398 Clara Amfo: seeing there with his shopping trolley, whatever, and I'm thinking, " I wonder 422 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,230 Clara Amfo: who he is. I wonder where he grew up. I 423 00:21:46,230 --> 00:21:49,320 Clara Amfo: wonder if he's got a partner. I wonder what he does 424 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,780 Clara Amfo: for a living. What's been his day today?" 425 00:21:52,469 --> 00:21:53,879 Alex Legouix: I do love a good people watch. Do you? 426 00:21:53,879 --> 00:21:57,420 Clara Amfo: Yeah. It's just like, we're fascinating creatures. 427 00:22:03,630 --> 00:22:06,030 Alex Legouix: You've touched on the fact that obviously when you're in 428 00:22:06,030 --> 00:22:10,109 Alex Legouix: the car and your passion for music sort of started 429 00:22:10,109 --> 00:22:12,930 Alex Legouix: there, but where did the thirst for making it, I 430 00:22:12,930 --> 00:22:14,879 Alex Legouix: guess, more of a career come from? 431 00:22:15,060 --> 00:22:18,030 Clara Amfo: I think, I remember I went to a trip, I think it 432 00:22:18,030 --> 00:22:20,070 Clara Amfo: was the Science Museum or the Design Museum, was one 433 00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:23,218 Clara Amfo: of those two and there was a radio station and 434 00:22:23,219 --> 00:22:27,089 Clara Amfo: they set up this whole, " Make your own demo" thing. 435 00:22:27,089 --> 00:22:31,590 Clara Amfo: And I remember thinking, this is so fun. And you 436 00:22:31,590 --> 00:22:36,480 Clara Amfo: basically just got to say your name, introduce a song, 437 00:22:36,570 --> 00:22:40,650 Clara Amfo: and they'd give you the demo back on a CD 438 00:22:40,650 --> 00:22:45,119 Clara Amfo: of the branded station and with your name on it. And I remember taking 439 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,569 Clara Amfo: that and thinking, " Oh my God, this is so cool. 440 00:22:48,809 --> 00:22:52,080 Clara Amfo: This is it." I'm thinking, " Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This 441 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,968 Clara Amfo: is what I'm going to be doing. I need to 442 00:22:53,970 --> 00:23:00,329 Clara Amfo: be doing this. Just chatting and playing tunes." Okay, you 443 00:23:00,330 --> 00:23:03,359 Clara Amfo: can make a career, you can have a job doing 444 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,178 Clara Amfo: this. Absolutely. Because I loved so many things as a 445 00:23:06,180 --> 00:23:10,050 Clara Amfo: little kid. I loved sport, but let's go back to what we were saying. 446 00:23:10,050 --> 00:23:12,570 Clara Amfo: But when you are a little kid, you've just got 447 00:23:12,570 --> 00:23:17,638 Clara Amfo: the most beautiful sense of ambition because you're just like, "No, anything 448 00:23:17,638 --> 00:23:25,321 Clara Amfo: is possible." Do you know what I mean? 449 00:23:25,321 --> 00:23:25,411 Alex Legouix: Mm-hmm. Did your folks ever guide you? 450 00:23:25,411 --> 00:23:29,790 Clara Amfo: Do you know what? Not really, because my dad, he was a microbiologist, 451 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,730 Clara Amfo: so he was very, very intelligent man. 452 00:23:32,910 --> 00:23:32,970 Alex Legouix: Wow. 453 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:39,270 Clara Amfo: For him, in a medical research joy way, COVID, he 454 00:23:39,270 --> 00:23:41,910 Clara Amfo: would've been having a field day because that was literally 455 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:48,570 Clara Amfo: his vocation, studying viruses and tropical disease or all of that. 456 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,340 Clara Amfo: So we spent a lot of our times in hospital 457 00:23:50,340 --> 00:23:52,769 Clara Amfo: as a kid. I remember some days I'd go and 458 00:23:52,770 --> 00:23:55,560 Clara Amfo: hang out with him in his hospital. It'd be by 459 00:23:56,429 --> 00:23:59,879 Clara Amfo: the fridges full of blood and samples and stuff because 460 00:23:59,879 --> 00:24:02,010 Clara Amfo: he'd just be in his lab working. Like, " Sit still, 461 00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:06,119 Clara Amfo: don't touch anything," look it or would play with his 462 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,690 Clara Amfo: stethoscope and things like that. But my dad was super 463 00:24:09,690 --> 00:24:12,990 Clara Amfo: academic. And my mom isn't necessarily the most... She's not 464 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,109 Clara Amfo: an academic, but very much sort of like... My mom's 465 00:24:16,109 --> 00:24:18,928 Clara Amfo: like, she's been a dinner lady. She was a cleaner 466 00:24:18,930 --> 00:24:22,590 Clara Amfo: for, oh my god, 20 years. But yeah, they just 467 00:24:22,590 --> 00:24:25,080 Clara Amfo: wanted us, all of my brothers and sisters sort of 468 00:24:26,130 --> 00:24:32,999 Clara Amfo: ideally have maybe a medical profession or something in law 469 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,809 Clara Amfo: or pharmacy, all your traditional sort of prestige jobs. You 470 00:24:36,809 --> 00:24:41,040 Clara Amfo: know when parents just like, " My God, my child's a doctor or my child's a this, " or like da da da da da 471 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,969 Clara Amfo: da. And none of us... We're all creative. 472 00:24:45,210 --> 00:24:45,690 Alex Legouix: Oh, really? 473 00:24:46,230 --> 00:24:48,510 Clara Amfo: Apart from my sister. My sister works in food tech, 474 00:24:48,780 --> 00:24:53,039 Clara Amfo: but all of us just... Yeah, like my brother Andy, 475 00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:55,681 Clara Amfo: he does voiceovers. You've probably heard his voice on things actually. 476 00:24:55,681 --> 00:24:56,041 Alex Legouix: Oh really? 477 00:24:56,940 --> 00:24:58,918 Clara Amfo: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He's on bloody everything. I can't escape him. 478 00:24:59,250 --> 00:25:03,180 Clara Amfo: Actually one really awkward moment, I was just like, " What?" 479 00:25:04,859 --> 00:25:08,158 Clara Amfo: He did a voiceover for a very well known company 480 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,730 Clara Amfo: that sells sexy toys and sexy things to people. 481 00:25:11,730 --> 00:25:12,390 Alex Legouix: No. 482 00:25:12,390 --> 00:25:14,490 Clara Amfo: And my brother's on the voiceover and I was just like, " 483 00:25:14,490 --> 00:25:18,090 Clara Amfo: Literally, I cannot. I literally can't deal. Go away. Go 484 00:25:18,090 --> 00:25:22,948 Clara Amfo: away." But yeah, we all do kind of creative things. The 485 00:25:22,950 --> 00:25:25,408 Clara Amfo: great thing about parents was that in an ideal world, 486 00:25:25,619 --> 00:25:29,820 Clara Amfo: we all would've done those sort of prestige, like academic, 487 00:25:29,820 --> 00:25:33,000 Clara Amfo: scientific or whatever jobs, but there was never a thing of, " 488 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:38,040 Clara Amfo: If you do something outside of that realm, you are 489 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,679 Clara Amfo: not welcome in my house." There was never that, 490 00:25:40,679 --> 00:25:43,888 Clara Amfo: and I'm really, really appreciative of that. But my dad's 491 00:25:43,888 --> 00:25:48,090 Clara Amfo: whole thing particularly was very much like, " Okay, if you are not 492 00:25:48,090 --> 00:25:51,720 Clara Amfo: going to do one of these sorts of professions, then 493 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,369 Clara Amfo: you got to make sure that whatever you do, you 494 00:25:53,369 --> 00:25:55,109 Clara Amfo: make sure that you are going to be the flipping 495 00:25:55,109 --> 00:25:58,230 Clara Amfo: best or you don't do it by halves, commit and do 496 00:25:58,230 --> 00:26:01,799 Clara Amfo: it properly. Otherwise what's the point?" So I think that 497 00:26:01,799 --> 00:26:03,658 Clara Amfo: I definitely carried with me. 498 00:26:03,990 --> 00:26:05,668 Alex Legouix: That sort of competitive spirit? 499 00:26:05,820 --> 00:26:08,070 Clara Amfo: Yeah. But it was in a sense of not even 500 00:26:09,090 --> 00:26:10,561 Clara Amfo: not trying to compete with anybody else to sort of like- 501 00:26:10,561 --> 00:26:11,580 Alex Legouix: Competing with yourself. 502 00:26:11,580 --> 00:26:16,109 Clara Amfo: Yeah, exactly. Exactly, exactly that. And it's funny, because I 503 00:26:16,109 --> 00:26:19,380 Clara Amfo: was on KISS FM before and obviously KISS is... That's a very reputable station, 504 00:26:19,380 --> 00:26:21,688 Clara Amfo: but it wasn't until I joined the BBC and my dad was like, "Oh, 505 00:26:22,049 --> 00:26:24,898 Clara Amfo: okay, all right." And then I think I was a 506 00:26:24,930 --> 00:26:27,330 Clara Amfo: guest on a Radio 4 show or something and he 507 00:26:27,330 --> 00:26:31,228 Clara Amfo: was like, " I see." Because it's those sort of things. 508 00:26:31,950 --> 00:26:35,010 Clara Amfo: For example, me doing Strictly and I'm someone who's like, 509 00:26:35,250 --> 00:26:38,460 Clara Amfo: I've sat across Kendrick Lamar, Jay- Z, Ariana Grande, whoever, 510 00:26:38,940 --> 00:26:42,810 Clara Amfo: just Strictly and all of a sudden, my mom and all of my auntie 511 00:26:42,810 --> 00:26:43,920 Clara Amfo: friends like, " Oh wow!" 512 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:45,750 Alex Legouix: Now you've made it there. 513 00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:49,020 Clara Amfo: Yeah, yeah. It makes my own peer group. It is funny, isn't 514 00:26:49,020 --> 00:26:51,090 Clara Amfo: it, what people perceive as the thing? 515 00:26:51,150 --> 00:26:52,648 Alex Legouix: Yeah. Was Strictly fun? 516 00:26:52,770 --> 00:26:53,460 Clara Amfo: Oh, I loved it. Absolutely loved it. I'd do it again in a heartbeat. 517 00:26:55,888 --> 00:26:56,339 Alex Legouix: Yeah. 518 00:26:56,549 --> 00:26:58,648 Clara Amfo: It was wicked. Don't get me wrong, it was physically, 519 00:26:59,190 --> 00:27:04,619 Clara Amfo: emotionally intense. It is just, you're in this bubble because you just eat, 520 00:27:04,619 --> 00:27:08,490 Clara Amfo: breathe and sleep dance, dance training and performance ever. But it 521 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,839 Clara Amfo: is honestly, the most... Yeah, it is the most fun thing I've 522 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:13,260 Clara Amfo: ever done. 523 00:27:13,559 --> 00:27:15,240 Alex Legouix: Can you still remember the dances? 524 00:27:16,260 --> 00:27:19,050 Clara Amfo: Oh yeah. No, honestly, it's so funny. The way muscle memory works is 525 00:27:19,050 --> 00:27:23,879 Clara Amfo: so interesting. Because I remember my first dance was to Dua Lipa, 526 00:27:24,570 --> 00:27:27,480 Clara Amfo: Don't Start Now and I still remember that choreography like 527 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:27,690 Clara Amfo: that. 528 00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:29,880 Alex Legouix: That comes on the radio, you're up? 529 00:27:29,910 --> 00:27:32,969 Clara Amfo: Oh, no, no. I still remember it. Sometimes I have been 530 00:27:32,969 --> 00:27:35,699 Clara Amfo: at things, I'll be like, " Go on then, go on." I'm just like, " Don't threaten 531 00:27:35,699 --> 00:27:37,020 Clara Amfo: me with a good time because I might just do 532 00:27:37,020 --> 00:27:44,760 Clara Amfo: it, hun. I might just do it." Oh, what a lovely day. 533 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,359 Clara Amfo: This is Tower Bridge. But I'm based in East London. 534 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,898 Clara Amfo: Sometimes I'll walk from home to here. So I've got 535 00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:53,699 Clara Amfo: a few mates that live around these sides. It'll take 536 00:27:53,699 --> 00:27:55,200 Clara Amfo: about an hour and a half, but it's such a lovely 537 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,940 Clara Amfo: walk. The sky is blue. 538 00:27:57,270 --> 00:28:00,390 Alex Legouix: Sky is blue. Does the weather affect you? 539 00:28:00,390 --> 00:28:05,010 Clara Amfo: Absolutely. Yeah. We are literally mammals energized by the sun. Do you know what I mean? 540 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,989 Clara Amfo: Sometimes all you just need is that... It's that vitamin D band, 541 00:28:10,410 --> 00:28:14,550 Clara Amfo: but I'm such a summertime flight baby. I would rather 542 00:28:14,550 --> 00:28:15,810 Clara Amfo: be too hot than too cold, which is why I'm 543 00:28:15,810 --> 00:28:17,430 Clara Amfo: living for these heated seats in this car. 544 00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:18,450 Alex Legouix: Yeah, agreed. 545 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,880 Clara Amfo: That's my joy. Or just frolicking in my local park. 546 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,120 Alex Legouix: What is your mood lifter music? 547 00:28:27,660 --> 00:28:29,759 Clara Amfo: That is a great question. What is my mood lifter music 548 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,119 Clara Amfo: at the moment? I love Salon. I mean, do you 549 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,030 Clara Amfo: know what? I'm obsessed, I mean, everyone knows I'm one of Beyonce's 550 00:28:36,030 --> 00:28:38,910 Clara Amfo: biggest fans and that Renaissance album, I've been rinsing it... 551 00:28:38,910 --> 00:28:41,910 Clara Amfo: Because that came out in July of last year and 552 00:28:41,910 --> 00:28:45,480 Clara Amfo: I've played that album every day since. And it just gets 553 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,002 Clara Amfo: me fired. I love it. It's excellent. All killer, no filler . 554 00:28:48,780 --> 00:28:53,190 Alex Legouix: This is a colorful area. 555 00:28:54,060 --> 00:28:54,181 Clara Amfo: Yeah, we're on Brick Lane now. 556 00:28:54,181 --> 00:28:54,240 Alex Legouix: Nice. 557 00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:02,069 Clara Amfo: Yes. Brick Lane, Brick Lane area or Whitechapel really, but it's all connected. 558 00:29:02,070 --> 00:29:08,550 Clara Amfo: So there's a really big Bengali and Bangladeshi community round here. 559 00:29:08,550 --> 00:29:13,020 Clara Amfo: You can get great South Asian food around this area. 560 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:18,600 Clara Amfo: But again, this is why I love London because you 561 00:29:19,710 --> 00:29:22,049 Clara Amfo: just get a lesson in other people's cultures like borough 562 00:29:22,049 --> 00:29:22,649 Clara Amfo: to borough. 563 00:29:24,299 --> 00:29:27,450 Alex Legouix: Do you feel the restrictions from your fame or are 564 00:29:27,450 --> 00:29:28,591 Alex Legouix: you still able to go into the markets? 565 00:29:28,591 --> 00:29:32,580 Clara Amfo: Do you know what I live in... Because my whole thing is, I've always said that you're 566 00:29:32,580 --> 00:29:36,210 Clara Amfo: only as famous as you act, I think. Obviously, there's 567 00:29:36,210 --> 00:29:41,219 Clara Amfo: nuance to everything, but if you are walking around in 568 00:29:41,219 --> 00:29:43,590 Clara Amfo: a cap and sunglasses on a day where you don't 569 00:29:43,590 --> 00:29:45,960 Clara Amfo: need cap and sunglasses, if it's not sunny- 570 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:46,770 Alex Legouix: You're highlighting yourself. 571 00:29:48,030 --> 00:29:51,240 Clara Amfo: If anything, I'm like, " Oh, why has that person got a cap and sunglasses on? Are 572 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:58,020 Clara Amfo: you quote, unquote somebody?" But usually people are just like, "Oh, it's Clara, you're all right? How's it going? Cool." Or, " 573 00:29:58,020 --> 00:30:00,600 Clara Amfo: Do we go to school together?" Or, " Why do I know you?" 574 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:05,280 Clara Amfo: But it's never a thing of like, " Oh my God, I'm getting chased down 575 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,590 Clara Amfo: the street." But I think, yeah, again, you're only as 576 00:30:07,590 --> 00:30:09,479 Clara Amfo: famous as you act. I think if you caught it 577 00:30:10,889 --> 00:30:13,530 Clara Amfo: and you do the most to fan the flames, I 578 00:30:13,530 --> 00:30:15,359 Clara Amfo: think that's when you get into a tricky situation. I 579 00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:18,420 Clara Amfo: would sooner die than bloody call the paparazzi on myself 580 00:30:18,570 --> 00:30:22,920 Clara Amfo: because please believe it baby. Sorry to like... I believe it's 581 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,470 Clara Amfo: really important to tell the truth and listen, I hate 582 00:30:25,470 --> 00:30:28,110 Clara Amfo: to break it to anyone who's listening, but you'd be 583 00:30:28,110 --> 00:30:31,380 Clara Amfo: surprised and you may or may not have to cut this bit out, 584 00:30:31,380 --> 00:30:34,170 Clara Amfo: but I don't care. I don't care. I'll tell you 585 00:30:34,170 --> 00:30:36,240 Clara Amfo: the truth. But there are people who call the paparazzi on themselves. My God. 586 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:36,660 Alex Legouix: Yes. 587 00:30:37,290 --> 00:30:38,730 Clara Amfo: You would be shocked. And then people are like, " Oh my God, 588 00:30:38,730 --> 00:30:41,760 Clara Amfo: I wish the paps would leave me alon ." Your publicist called them and 589 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,120 Clara Amfo: told them that you were going to be outside this cafe with 590 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:50,281 Clara Amfo: whoever and they act like you didn't know. 591 00:30:50,281 --> 00:30:50,282 Alex Legouix: So true. 592 00:30:50,282 --> 00:30:53,970 Clara Amfo: Oh my God, what are you doing it? You knew they were going to be here. You can't do that and then be like, " 593 00:30:53,970 --> 00:30:55,050 Clara Amfo: Oh my God, the fame." 594 00:30:55,110 --> 00:30:55,111 Alex Legouix: Yeah. 595 00:30:55,111 --> 00:30:58,050 Clara Amfo: Do you know what I mean? And if it ever gets revealed that 596 00:30:58,050 --> 00:31:00,840 Clara Amfo: I called paparazzi on myself, please use this interview and be like, "Clara, 597 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,390 Clara Amfo: you hypocrite and you idiot." 598 00:31:03,390 --> 00:31:03,900 Alex Legouix: You heard it here. 599 00:31:03,900 --> 00:31:06,420 Clara Amfo: And I say that with my chest. I will never 600 00:31:06,420 --> 00:31:08,370 Clara Amfo: do that as long as I live. I'll say this, 601 00:31:08,580 --> 00:31:11,459 Clara Amfo: Adele is probably one of the most famous women on 602 00:31:11,459 --> 00:31:13,500 Clara Amfo: the planet. When that woman is not releasing music, do 603 00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:15,240 Clara Amfo: you ever see or hear a peep from her? 604 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:15,570 Alex Legouix: No. 605 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,710 Clara Amfo: Exactly. It's a choice. It's a choice. But then there are some 606 00:31:19,710 --> 00:31:24,300 Clara Amfo: people who are relentlessly pursued and they don't have a choice. Again, 607 00:31:24,300 --> 00:31:28,199 Clara Amfo: there is nuance to everything, but there is a way 608 00:31:28,199 --> 00:31:33,870 Clara Amfo: to control it. So I just think, don't... Yeah, you don't have 609 00:31:33,870 --> 00:31:34,470 Clara Amfo: to lean in. 610 00:31:36,900 --> 00:31:37,500 Alex Legouix: So we're just by- 611 00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:38,131 Clara Amfo: Have a peaceful life. Yes. 612 00:31:38,131 --> 00:31:40,530 Alex Legouix: ... the Genesis Cinema. 613 00:31:40,860 --> 00:31:41,550 Clara Amfo: Yay. 614 00:31:42,270 --> 00:31:43,409 Alex Legouix: This is where you come? 615 00:31:43,830 --> 00:31:47,250 Clara Amfo: Yeah, it's one of my favorite cinemas. I love a cinema that's just 616 00:31:47,250 --> 00:31:50,969 Clara Amfo: got character to it. And if there's one thing, a 617 00:31:50,970 --> 00:31:52,591 Clara Amfo: cinema trope I adore is old school- 618 00:31:52,591 --> 00:31:53,371 Alex Legouix: Yeah. It looks old school. 619 00:31:53,371 --> 00:31:59,400 Clara Amfo: ... cinema lettering for the signage to let you know 620 00:31:59,610 --> 00:32:02,880 Clara Amfo: what's on. Just how the Ritzy in Brixton has got 621 00:32:03,299 --> 00:32:06,299 Clara Amfo: that style. I love that about Genesis. And they're really good 622 00:32:06,299 --> 00:32:10,350 Clara Amfo: at doing good one- off nights and themed months and 623 00:32:10,350 --> 00:32:12,870 Clara Amfo: things, which I think is really cool. But don't get me wrong, 624 00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:16,140 Clara Amfo: I enjoy your sort of big chain cinemas and I am 625 00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:19,950 Clara Amfo: not adverse to a reclining chair and being able to 626 00:32:20,460 --> 00:32:23,459 Clara Amfo: eat and drink a cute meal in a cinema. But 627 00:32:23,459 --> 00:32:29,010 Clara Amfo: there is something about just those really preserved spaces. 628 00:32:29,010 --> 00:32:32,099 Alex Legouix: Is it as old school inside as well as it looks outside? 629 00:32:32,099 --> 00:32:35,340 Clara Amfo: Yeah. And obviously they've adapted and stuff, but I just think, 630 00:32:36,210 --> 00:32:40,289 Clara Amfo: yeah, just that lived in energy. I don't know, I imagine who 631 00:32:40,289 --> 00:32:44,160 Clara Amfo: was there 50 years ago. One of my favorite things 632 00:32:44,460 --> 00:32:49,590 Clara Amfo: is going to the cinema by myself. Funny enough, I'm planning 633 00:32:49,860 --> 00:32:52,889 Clara Amfo: to go and see the latest Scream movie on my ones because 634 00:32:52,889 --> 00:32:54,780 Clara Amfo: none of my friends will go with me to see 635 00:32:54,780 --> 00:32:58,139 Clara Amfo: it. I really, really enjoy them now. My mates will 636 00:32:58,139 --> 00:33:01,110 Clara Amfo: come to noir with me to a romcom or just a 637 00:33:01,110 --> 00:33:03,989 Clara Amfo: com or an action movie or whatever. But I was like, " 638 00:33:04,650 --> 00:33:07,770 Clara Amfo: What happened to all of you lot? Come on. Is everyone 639 00:33:07,770 --> 00:33:10,380 Clara Amfo: like... " But yeah, everyone's a scaredy cat. But yeah, funnily 640 00:33:10,380 --> 00:33:12,179 Clara Amfo: enough, when I wanted to go see Magic Mike, all 641 00:33:12,179 --> 00:33:15,330 Clara Amfo: the girlies wanted to come. I went to see Magic 642 00:33:15,330 --> 00:33:18,900 Clara Amfo: Mike's Last Dance at the cinema with a few mates. 643 00:33:18,930 --> 00:33:22,530 Clara Amfo: Actually, no, just with one mate. And that was hilarious 644 00:33:22,620 --> 00:33:25,770 Clara Amfo: and we laughed and sighed the whole way through. 645 00:33:26,010 --> 00:33:28,200 Alex Legouix: Do you have a lot of fond memories of going 646 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,630 Alex Legouix: to the cinema or watching films when you were younger 647 00:33:30,630 --> 00:33:30,870 Alex Legouix: as well? 648 00:33:30,900 --> 00:33:33,989 Clara Amfo: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It's always the thing. My mum always used 649 00:33:33,990 --> 00:33:37,020 Clara Amfo: to fall asleep in cinema. Yeah, no, I loved going 650 00:33:37,020 --> 00:33:40,320 Clara Amfo: to cinema as a kid. Loved trying to get into 651 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,080 Clara Amfo: films that I wasn't old enough to watch. I remember I went 652 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,510 Clara Amfo: to try and see... I can't remember what film was, but it was a film. 653 00:33:45,510 --> 00:33:48,510 Clara Amfo: I think I was 14, it was 15. My mum had 654 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,089 Clara Amfo: that perfume. It was called Poison. 655 00:33:51,089 --> 00:33:51,630 Alex Legouix: Oh yes. 656 00:33:51,690 --> 00:33:53,609 Clara Amfo: My dad had bought it for her as a gift. 657 00:33:53,609 --> 00:33:56,550 Clara Amfo: And she'd held onto the bottle for 20 years or whatever. 658 00:33:57,030 --> 00:33:58,979 Clara Amfo: And I doused something because I was like, " Yeah, this is 659 00:33:58,980 --> 00:34:03,030 Clara Amfo: what teenagers do. They wear fancy perfume and wear button- 660 00:34:03,030 --> 00:34:06,840 Clara Amfo: up shirts or whatever." And I remember me and my friend, 661 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,830 Clara Amfo: I think it's... What's it? I can't remember who it was, but I think me and a couple 662 00:34:10,830 --> 00:34:13,620 Clara Amfo: of school friends, we were like, " Yeah, we're old enough." And 663 00:34:13,620 --> 00:34:18,390 Clara Amfo: they were just like, "No, you're not going home." I was like, "Okay, fine ." But, but again, those are formative things 664 00:34:19,739 --> 00:34:21,301 Clara Amfo: because it's just about independence, isn't it? 665 00:34:21,301 --> 00:34:21,302 Alex Legouix: Yeah. 666 00:34:21,302 --> 00:34:25,859 Clara Amfo: And I think there's something about going to cinema without your parents. 667 00:34:26,549 --> 00:34:26,550 Alex Legouix: Yes. That's so true. 668 00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:30,090 Clara Amfo: It makes you feel like a proper grownup. Or going to the local, 669 00:34:30,420 --> 00:34:33,660 Clara Amfo: going swimming, all those, or getting a train by yourself 670 00:34:33,660 --> 00:34:36,511 Clara Amfo: for the first time. They're rights a passage, aren't they? 671 00:34:36,511 --> 00:34:38,640 Alex Legouix: Yeah, they are really important. 672 00:34:38,730 --> 00:34:39,510 Clara Amfo: Yeah, proper. 673 00:34:40,170 --> 00:34:44,070 Alex Legouix: So we're being taken through Shoreditch. 674 00:34:44,070 --> 00:34:44,130 Clara Amfo: Yeah. 675 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,469 Alex Legouix: Do you know this sort of area? 676 00:34:46,469 --> 00:34:51,330 Clara Amfo: I know this area extremely well, like the back of my 677 00:34:51,330 --> 00:34:54,750 Clara Amfo: hand. This area I cycle through a lot, pass through 678 00:34:54,750 --> 00:34:58,319 Clara Amfo: a lot, got a lot of good gig memories here. 679 00:34:58,860 --> 00:35:04,259 Clara Amfo: And yeah, just nights out really. And yeah, late night 680 00:35:04,260 --> 00:35:08,820 Clara Amfo: food stops because there's so many kebab shops here that 681 00:35:08,820 --> 00:35:12,540 Clara Amfo: I've definitely gotten a falafel wrap from and chips. 682 00:35:12,540 --> 00:35:13,651 Alex Legouix: Is that a go-to at the end of the night? 683 00:35:13,651 --> 00:35:18,690 Clara Amfo: In the middle of the night. Oh yeah, yeah. Definitely. Chomping down chips at 3: 684 00:35:18,690 --> 00:35:19,049 Clara Amfo: 00 AM. 685 00:35:19,110 --> 00:35:25,650 Alex Legouix: Yeah. Your journey to starting at KISS was quite unorthodox, 686 00:35:25,650 --> 00:35:25,920 Alex Legouix: wasn't it? 687 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:31,469 Clara Amfo: Yeah, because I always had an interest in broadcast, but 688 00:35:31,469 --> 00:35:32,999 Clara Amfo: for a little bit I was like, " You know what? 689 00:35:33,270 --> 00:35:36,179 Clara Amfo: I'm just going to work behind the scenes. I don't 690 00:35:36,179 --> 00:35:38,610 Clara Amfo: need to put myself out there." And looking back now, 691 00:35:39,089 --> 00:35:42,359 Clara Amfo: it was just a fear thing. Because again, going back 692 00:35:42,359 --> 00:35:47,760 Clara Amfo: as the thing about, that almost reverse imposter syndrome. It wasn't 693 00:35:49,230 --> 00:35:52,770 Clara Amfo: a thing of me not thinking I wasn't capable. I 694 00:35:52,770 --> 00:35:54,719 Clara Amfo: think I was just afraid to put myself out there. 695 00:35:55,349 --> 00:35:56,429 Clara Amfo: Even though I knew I was capable, I was a 696 00:35:56,429 --> 00:36:01,049 Clara Amfo: bit like, " Oh no, I'm not going to do that." So I just didn't. I was like, " You know what? 697 00:36:01,170 --> 00:36:05,520 Clara Amfo: I'm cool. I'll just help out marketing, intern." So I 698 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,830 Clara Amfo: was helping out doing everything. So I'd go to Ministry 699 00:36:07,830 --> 00:36:12,090 Clara Amfo: of Sound Nightclub and scrape off the KISS branding stickers 700 00:36:12,389 --> 00:36:14,279 Clara Amfo: that we'd put up there the night before for the 701 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,660 Clara Amfo: club nights, give out merchandise. I'd stand outside the big 702 00:36:18,660 --> 00:36:23,250 Clara Amfo: top shop, RIP on Oxford Street, trying to stop people 703 00:36:23,250 --> 00:36:27,599 Clara Amfo: to get voxbox to use for the station, in- house adverts, all 704 00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:30,690 Clara Amfo: those types of things. But I always knew that, " Oh, 705 00:36:30,989 --> 00:36:34,950 Clara Amfo: I'd love to be able to do the radio bit." And I was always 706 00:36:36,750 --> 00:36:39,719 Clara Amfo: having these sort of sparring matches with my old boss, like, " 707 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,110 Clara Amfo: Why don't you play this song? That song's so out 708 00:36:43,110 --> 00:36:44,670 Clara Amfo: now." I'm like, " Why are you doing that to this? 709 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,620 Clara Amfo: You should be doing this," and dah dah dah dah 710 00:36:46,620 --> 00:36:50,219 Clara Amfo: dah. And so eventually that one Christmas he was off 711 00:36:50,219 --> 00:36:54,029 Clara Amfo: for God's sake, and then he was just like, " This person's gone 712 00:36:54,029 --> 00:36:57,719 Clara Amfo: away and this person's got a cold, so do you want to cover this 713 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,170 Clara Amfo: show on Christmas Eve?" And I was like, " Oh my God." I was like, " 714 00:37:01,530 --> 00:37:07,049 Clara Amfo: Yes," sprinted to the studio as soon as I got 715 00:37:07,049 --> 00:37:11,939 Clara Amfo: the chance to, to be honest. So Christmas came around and I covered 716 00:37:11,940 --> 00:37:15,270 Clara Amfo: some shows and they were prerecorded. But the first time I 717 00:37:15,270 --> 00:37:19,799 Clara Amfo: went live, it was Saturday morning, a 4: 00 AM 718 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,260 Clara Amfo: till 6: 00 AM stop. And I was so buzzing 719 00:37:22,260 --> 00:37:27,780 Clara Amfo: on adrenalines. I remember I set my alarm, probably for 02: 00 or even 01: 720 00:37:27,780 --> 00:37:29,129 Clara Amfo: 00 because I think I was so paranoid I was 721 00:37:29,129 --> 00:37:32,489 Clara Amfo: going to sleep through my alarm. And then, yeah, got 722 00:37:32,489 --> 00:37:38,880 Clara Amfo: to the studio and then my old boss, Simon, who'd 723 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,029 Clara Amfo: really sort of mentored me, produced a show. I remember 724 00:37:42,030 --> 00:37:44,879 Clara Amfo: thinking like, " Yeah, man, this is absolutely what I'm supposed 725 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,469 Clara Amfo: to be doing. I love doing this." 726 00:37:46,469 --> 00:37:47,310 Alex Legouix: Were you nervous? 727 00:37:47,339 --> 00:37:51,180 Clara Amfo: Oh yeah, I was shitting myself. I was so nervous. So nervous. But 728 00:37:51,180 --> 00:37:54,750 Clara Amfo: I enjoyed it so much that I just wanted to 729 00:37:54,750 --> 00:37:56,309 Clara Amfo: come back and do it and just learn to be 730 00:37:56,309 --> 00:38:02,309 Clara Amfo: better. And it was such a great... Yeah, it was just such 731 00:38:02,309 --> 00:38:03,240 Clara Amfo: a great feeling. 732 00:38:03,389 --> 00:38:05,219 Alex Legouix: And were you then like, " That's it?" 733 00:38:05,219 --> 00:38:05,220 Clara Amfo: Yeah. 734 00:38:05,220 --> 00:38:07,920 Alex Legouix: " I'm in, this is what I'm doing?" 735 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,120 Clara Amfo: Yeah, absolutely. I was like, no, I just remember thinking... Because bearing in mind at that 736 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,579 Clara Amfo: same time, I was still working in the office Monday 737 00:38:14,580 --> 00:38:18,840 Clara Amfo: to Friday because I had been promoted from sort of 738 00:38:19,620 --> 00:38:22,799 Clara Amfo: work experience intern to be... They gave me this job 739 00:38:22,799 --> 00:38:24,780 Clara Amfo: lesson. They made up a job for me and it 740 00:38:24,780 --> 00:38:28,080 Clara Amfo: was called station coordinator. But doing that, honestly, it was 741 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:33,840 Clara Amfo: invaluable because it really gave me a work ethic, which 742 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,489 Clara Amfo: I really cherish. Because when you understand how the sausage 743 00:38:38,489 --> 00:38:41,459 Clara Amfo: is made, you see all the working parts of a radio 744 00:38:41,459 --> 00:38:44,880 Clara Amfo: station or any sort of any workspace, but particularly radio, 745 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:52,590 Clara Amfo: TV, when you see it like that, it almost gives 746 00:38:52,590 --> 00:38:56,340 Clara Amfo: you an armor from sort of being a brat because you 747 00:38:56,460 --> 00:38:57,930 Clara Amfo: just know the moving parts. 748 00:38:57,930 --> 00:38:58,049 Alex Legouix: Yeah. 749 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,510 Clara Amfo: We're in Camden right now and the houses are beautiful round here. 750 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:07,770 Alex Legouix: They really are. 751 00:39:08,099 --> 00:39:10,080 Clara Amfo: So, so, so, so, so lovely. 752 00:39:10,290 --> 00:39:14,310 Alex Legouix: Do you think that London is a pioneer for music 753 00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:15,120 Alex Legouix: and new music? 754 00:39:15,330 --> 00:39:19,770 Clara Amfo: Oh, absolutely. A hundred percent. I don't think it's the sense with the universe 755 00:39:19,770 --> 00:39:22,680 Clara Amfo: for it, but it's absolutely a hundred percent a leader. 756 00:39:23,489 --> 00:39:26,700 Clara Amfo: We're in Camden, which is, I think... When I think 757 00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:29,460 Clara Amfo: of Camden, I think of Amy Winehouse. There's a whole 758 00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:36,959 Clara Amfo: statue of her here. But there are so many iconic leaders who have 759 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,729 Clara Amfo: come out of London for music. But yeah, zoning on 760 00:39:41,730 --> 00:39:46,559 Clara Amfo: Amy, that's somebody that truly made it accessible, hip hop 761 00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:51,719 Clara Amfo: influence, R& B influence, just so cool and so unique 762 00:39:52,410 --> 00:39:55,920 Clara Amfo: and truly a one of one artist. And that's a 763 00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:00,299 Clara Amfo: proud North London girl. Actually, I saw her at KOKO 764 00:40:00,300 --> 00:40:03,809 Clara Amfo: actually, where we're going to. Yeah, I remember because I remember 765 00:40:03,809 --> 00:40:08,040 Clara Amfo: being in the queue and seeing her walk by with 766 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:12,029 Clara Amfo: her security and her being... I remember her being like, " Wow," because 767 00:40:12,029 --> 00:40:14,160 Clara Amfo: she couldn't believe all these people had come to see her. And that 768 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,250 Clara Amfo: was a really, really fun gig. And you look back 769 00:40:17,250 --> 00:40:19,950 Clara Amfo: on moments like that and you just realize how privileged you were 770 00:40:19,950 --> 00:40:29,609 Clara Amfo: to see somebody of that ilk, just being them. Ultimately, 771 00:40:29,609 --> 00:40:33,150 Clara Amfo: who she was was just a really great artist. And you 772 00:40:33,150 --> 00:40:35,190 Clara Amfo: could tell she had a lot of pride performing at 773 00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:38,370 Clara Amfo: somewhere like KOKO, because that's somewhere that she would've no 774 00:40:38,370 --> 00:40:41,670 Clara Amfo: doubt been going to as well. But yeah, that was 775 00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:46,709 Clara Amfo: a really special gig. Yeah, memory unlocked with that one. 776 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:48,450 Alex Legouix: So we're outside KOKO now. 777 00:40:48,450 --> 00:40:53,490 Clara Amfo: We are outside KOKO. And yeah, I just literally remember just 778 00:40:53,610 --> 00:40:57,719 Clara Amfo: being in a queue and it curling around to get 779 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,001 Clara Amfo: into that print show. But then there's been times I've walked straight in 780 00:41:00,001 --> 00:41:04,319 Clara Amfo: because I've had a gig early or whatever. But yeah, it's 781 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,070 Clara Amfo: such a fab venue. And they had that fire a 782 00:41:08,070 --> 00:41:08,820 Clara Amfo: little while ago. 783 00:41:10,710 --> 00:41:10,711 Alex Legouix: Oh yes, of course. 784 00:41:10,711 --> 00:41:14,520 Clara Amfo: Obviously, so I'm feeling it's been renovated now. But yeah, it's just iconic. 785 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,890 Alex Legouix: So we're on our way now to Broadcasting House. 786 00:41:19,890 --> 00:41:20,731 Clara Amfo: Yeah. Yes, we are. 787 00:41:20,731 --> 00:41:23,430 Alex Legouix: World of Radio 1. 788 00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:25,740 Clara Amfo: That's it. Portland Place. 789 00:41:25,950 --> 00:41:29,880 Alex Legouix: What was the feeling when you knew you were making 790 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,000 Alex Legouix: that step up or step over, I guess? 791 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:39,780 Clara Amfo: Bit of fear, fear, excitement, overwhelmingness. Because I remember when I first 792 00:41:39,780 --> 00:41:41,429 Clara Amfo: like demoing for Radio 1, when I was sitting at 793 00:41:41,430 --> 00:41:44,160 Clara Amfo: KISS and they're around the corner from each other. And obviously it was 794 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,489 Clara Amfo: top secret, so I would sneak. I'd finish my work 795 00:41:47,489 --> 00:41:50,400 Clara Amfo: day or during a lunch break, I would sneak around 796 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:55,859 Clara Amfo: the corner to Broadcasting House and try and go in 797 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,429 Clara Amfo: the Radio 1 and one extra building, incognito, hoping no 798 00:41:59,430 --> 00:42:03,540 Clara Amfo: one would see me be quietly ushered in by a producer, 799 00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:07,890 Clara Amfo: doing my demos and run back to work. And I remember I did 800 00:42:07,890 --> 00:42:09,749 Clara Amfo: that on and off for 18 months on the sly. 801 00:42:09,780 --> 00:42:10,860 Alex Legouix: Oh really? 802 00:42:10,860 --> 00:42:14,910 Clara Amfo: Yeah, I think I did about, oh my God, eight 803 00:42:14,910 --> 00:42:18,660 Clara Amfo: or nine demos. And then they finally offered me a contract 804 00:42:18,660 --> 00:42:22,349 Clara Amfo: for Weekend Breakfast at 1Xtra. But yeah, but I remember 805 00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:25,620 Clara Amfo: when you walk into the main concourse, there's that giant 806 00:42:26,340 --> 00:42:29,819 Clara Amfo: BBC sign you can't miss, there's three huge letters. And 807 00:42:29,820 --> 00:42:32,669 Clara Amfo: seeing that for the first time, it's a lot. Because 808 00:42:32,670 --> 00:42:36,059 Clara Amfo: even now, every day when I'm going into work or 809 00:42:36,059 --> 00:42:40,260 Clara Amfo: leaving work, there's always tourists out there with their selfie 810 00:42:40,260 --> 00:42:44,219 Clara Amfo: sticks getting that BBC picture. 811 00:42:45,090 --> 00:42:47,640 Alex Legouix: So do you still appreciate that feeling? 812 00:42:47,790 --> 00:42:53,730 Clara Amfo: Yeah, I do because they're always decorating it with all the people 813 00:42:53,730 --> 00:42:55,920 Clara Amfo: that work there. Because when you walk into the building, 814 00:42:56,130 --> 00:42:59,400 Clara Amfo: there's a giant picture of Claudia and Tess for Strictly, 815 00:42:59,580 --> 00:43:02,219 Clara Amfo: and there's a giant like... There's a TARDIS in there 816 00:43:02,219 --> 00:43:06,179 Clara Amfo: from Doctor Who and giant Pudsey Bear for Children in Need. 817 00:43:06,179 --> 00:43:11,759 Clara Amfo: And now there's a... Because the Broadcasting House is eight floors, 818 00:43:12,090 --> 00:43:15,150 Clara Amfo: so on each floor, they've got blown up pictures of 819 00:43:15,870 --> 00:43:19,200 Clara Amfo: different styles. There's a big picture of David Attenborough and 820 00:43:19,620 --> 00:43:23,070 Clara Amfo: Harry Styles when he did Big Weekend for Radio One . And there's a big picture of me there, which 821 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,959 Clara Amfo: I didn't know they were putting up there. So I think I'm 822 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,780 Clara Amfo: in between Harry Styles and David Attenborough, which is great company, 823 00:43:27,780 --> 00:43:28,081 Clara Amfo: I must say. 824 00:43:28,081 --> 00:43:28,681 Alex Legouix: That's an interesting sandwich. 825 00:43:28,681 --> 00:43:32,310 Clara Amfo: I mean, but I remember, I didn't know they were doing it. And then 826 00:43:32,460 --> 00:43:35,370 Clara Amfo: one day I kept getting tagged in pictures on people's 827 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:40,020 Clara Amfo: Instagram. So it was like, Grimmy had tagged me in something, Greg, all my coworkers 828 00:43:40,020 --> 00:43:42,299 Clara Amfo: basically, like, " What the hell? Look at you." And I 829 00:43:42,299 --> 00:43:45,269 Clara Amfo: was like, " What?" Because I didn't know they were doing it. And it's like my big old 830 00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:48,599 Clara Amfo: mug. But if you ever come to visit Broadcasting House, whether 831 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,430 Clara Amfo: you are a BBC employee listening right now, or you're 832 00:43:50,430 --> 00:43:53,820 Clara Amfo: coming in for a tour, yeah, I'm there on the seventh 833 00:43:53,820 --> 00:43:56,880 Clara Amfo: floor in full technicolor. 834 00:43:57,150 --> 00:43:59,760 Alex Legouix: How do you prepare for the live show? 835 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,469 Clara Amfo: I do prepare, but I also like to shoot from 836 00:44:04,469 --> 00:44:07,800 Clara Amfo: the hip. I have a basic knowledge of people, and 837 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,920 Clara Amfo: then obviously, we've got our research notes and stuff. But for 838 00:44:11,460 --> 00:44:15,689 Clara Amfo: me, my favorite interview's about the human side of somebody, 839 00:44:16,110 --> 00:44:19,170 Clara Amfo: because ultimately that actually tells you more about the music. 840 00:44:19,860 --> 00:44:24,630 Clara Amfo: If it's a music artist anyway. You can find out about 841 00:44:25,500 --> 00:44:29,340 Clara Amfo: the album, why they made it, how they made it, 842 00:44:29,820 --> 00:44:33,239 Clara Amfo: sometimes by finding out about what's been going on in 843 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,019 Clara Amfo: their life like six months prior. But I love my 844 00:44:37,020 --> 00:44:41,759 Clara Amfo: producers, because they are always mega prepared with a glossary 845 00:44:42,150 --> 00:44:44,219 Clara Amfo: of bits and bolts. But for me, that's my... And 846 00:44:44,219 --> 00:44:47,219 Clara Amfo: I always do my research as well, but that's my 847 00:44:47,219 --> 00:44:50,880 Clara Amfo: preferred way of working for sure, for sure. 848 00:44:51,989 --> 00:44:52,469 Alex Legouix: Well... 849 00:44:52,590 --> 00:44:53,100 Clara Amfo: We're here. 850 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,350 Alex Legouix: Here it is. 851 00:44:55,469 --> 00:44:57,239 Clara Amfo: Pulling up to the old Bib. 852 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:57,299 Alex Legouix: Yeah. 853 00:44:59,340 --> 00:45:03,000 Clara Amfo: Oh, there's Shane, who is a very well known radio 854 00:45:03,030 --> 00:45:07,560 Clara Amfo: Plugger dude and looks after all of your faves. Hello. 855 00:45:07,830 --> 00:45:11,489 Clara Amfo: Was just talking about you, saying long time, no bloody see. 856 00:45:11,489 --> 00:45:12,420 Shane: Lovely to see you. How are you? 857 00:45:12,420 --> 00:45:12,421 Clara Amfo: You've been missed. You all right? 858 00:45:12,421 --> 00:45:12,511 Shane: Yeah, yeah. Just going to do something in BBC in a bit. 859 00:45:17,279 --> 00:45:19,530 Clara Amfo: Oh, fabulous. Well, maybe I'll bump into you in a bit. Well, 860 00:45:19,530 --> 00:45:20,370 Clara Amfo: nice to see you. 861 00:45:20,370 --> 00:45:20,489 Shane: You too. 862 00:45:20,730 --> 00:45:25,230 Clara Amfo: Bye my love. Yeah, because I think pandemic wise, you 863 00:45:25,230 --> 00:45:26,640 Clara Amfo: see all the pluggers up all the time. 864 00:45:26,670 --> 00:45:27,090 Alex Legouix: Yes. 865 00:45:27,420 --> 00:45:29,700 Clara Amfo: They bring artists in, but then the pandemic just changed 866 00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:33,239 Clara Amfo: the game. And we did so many things. Like remember, I did 867 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,659 Clara Amfo: a Miley Cyrus interview, we had to do it, record it 10: 868 00:45:36,660 --> 00:45:40,200 Clara Amfo: 00 PM our time so we were on her time in LA 869 00:45:41,010 --> 00:45:43,649 Clara Amfo: to get the show done. Because yeah, just artists, it's 870 00:45:43,650 --> 00:45:48,239 Clara Amfo: just, yeah. Corona changed the game, man. Wow. We are 871 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:49,019 Clara Amfo: home. We are here. 872 00:45:50,309 --> 00:45:54,000 Alex Legouix: Well, it's been really fun. How has it been taking 873 00:45:55,050 --> 00:45:58,440 Alex Legouix: a nice stroll around your haunts? 874 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,710 Clara Amfo: It's been really lovely and I want to thank you for your very insightful, 875 00:46:01,710 --> 00:46:04,000 Clara Amfo: wonderful questions. It's been you know , because people ask me a lot, 876 00:46:04,110 --> 00:46:05,069 Clara Amfo: the same thing a lot of the time. 877 00:46:05,309 --> 00:46:05,639 Alex Legouix: Yes. 878 00:46:05,969 --> 00:46:08,730 Clara Amfo: But you know what? Sometimes you ask the same thing, but it's about how you ask it. 879 00:46:08,910 --> 00:46:12,871 Clara Amfo: And I really appreciate, I appreciate your choice of words, darling. 880 00:46:12,871 --> 00:46:12,872 Alex Legouix: Well... 881 00:46:12,872 --> 00:46:12,873 Clara Amfo: I truly do. 882 00:46:12,873 --> 00:46:12,874 Alex Legouix: ... It's been a real privilege to have you, and I hope you liked our match. 883 00:46:12,874 --> 00:46:12,875 Clara Amfo: No, I did. Listen, living for the heated seats, living for the chat, living for the general comfort and the snacks. Thanks for the snacks. 884 00:46:12,875 --> 00:46:12,876 Alex Legouix: Thanks for the snacks. 885 00:46:12,876 --> 00:46:12,877 Clara Amfo: For the snacks. No, a good time. 886 00:46:12,877 --> 00:46:12,878 Alex Legouix: I hope you have a good show. 887 00:46:12,878 --> 00:46:12,879 Clara Amfo: Do people call you Al? 888 00:46:12,879 --> 00:46:12,880 Alex Legouix: Yeah. 889 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:12,881 Clara Amfo: Okay. I was like, I was going to call you Al earlier. I was like, is that over familiar? Thanks Al. 890 00:46:12,881 --> 00:46:12,882 Alex Legouix: How do people call you? 891 00:46:12,882 --> 00:46:12,883 Clara Amfo: People call me- 892 00:46:12,883 --> 00:46:12,884 Alex Legouix: Do you got a nickname? 893 00:46:12,884 --> 00:46:12,885 Clara Amfo: Clars sometimes. But it is mostly Clara or C. Yeah, C, Clars or Class or Amfo. 894 00:46:12,885 --> 00:46:12,886 Alex Legouix: Clars. 895 00:46:12,886 --> 00:46:12,887 Clara Amfo: People do love to surname me a lot. 896 00:46:12,887 --> 00:46:12,888 Alex Legouix: Yeah, I get surname a lot. 897 00:46:12,888 --> 00:46:13,458 Clara Amfo: You know? 898 00:46:13,710 --> 00:46:15,870 Alex Legouix: Well, Amfo, it's been a pleasure. 899 00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:28,829 Clara Amfo: Thanks. 900 00:47:03,870 --> 00:47:06,509 Alex Legouix: Thanks so much to Clara Amfo for taking me on 901 00:47:06,510 --> 00:47:10,650 Alex Legouix: a personalized tour around her favorite haunts in London. You 902 00:47:10,650 --> 00:47:13,170 Alex Legouix: can see exclusive footage of the drive by heading to 903 00:47:13,170 --> 00:47:17,100 Alex Legouix: the Autotrader socials. 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