1 00:00:46,250 --> 00:00:49,880 Suze: December 5th, 2024. Welcome everyone. 2 00:00:50,598 --> 00:00:57,520 KT: Happy birthday to you. Happy happy birthday to you. Happy 3 00:00:58,950 --> 00:01:04,690 KT: to Suze. Happy half, half, half birthday to you. December 4 00:01:04,699 --> 00:01:06,410 KT: 5th is her half birthday 5 00:01:06,964 --> 00:01:11,455 KT: which she celebrates more than her birthday on June 5th. 6 00:01:11,464 --> 00:01:13,675 KT: So happy birthday, Suze. 7 00:01:13,684 --> 00:01:17,915 Suze: Thank you, my dear KT 73 and a halh. How's that feel? Pretty good? 8 00:01:18,275 --> 00:01:19,754 Suze: The next one? 74. 9 00:01:21,334 --> 00:01:24,675 KT: Ok. All right. All right. Let's, let's get on with it. Also, 10 00:01:24,684 --> 00:01:26,595 KT: my sister's coming today. 11 00:01:26,900 --> 00:01:28,260 KT: Barbara's coming today. 12 00:01:28,269 --> 00:01:34,378 Suze: Her little sister and today is Leslie Lynn's full birthday 13 00:01:34,389 --> 00:01:37,870 Suze: and Leslie is one of my oldest friends from grammar school. 14 00:01:38,459 --> 00:01:43,809 Suze: I love her so much. I can't tell you happy birthday, Leslie. However, 15 00:01:44,089 --> 00:01:47,404 Suze: where was I welcome everybody to the Women and Money 16 00:01:47,404 --> 00:01:51,610 Suze: podcast as well as everybody smart enough to listen today 17 00:01:51,620 --> 00:01:55,279 Suze: happens to be KT and Suze. Anything. 18 00:01:55,510 --> 00:01:57,660 Suze: So, all you need to do is send in a 19 00:01:57,669 --> 00:02:03,569 Suze: question to ask Suze Suze podcast at gmail.com. And if 20 00:02:03,580 --> 00:02:07,169 Suze: KT picks it, we will answer it on this podcast 21 00:02:07,180 --> 00:02:09,649 Suze: and you just never know when I will answer it 22 00:02:09,660 --> 00:02:13,049 Suze: personally directly to you myself. 23 00:02:13,559 --> 00:02:17,639 KT: I picked a great um selection today because I picked 24 00:02:17,669 --> 00:02:20,779 KT: all the ones that I didn't know the answers to. 25 00:02:21,020 --> 00:02:23,839 KT: So everyone I get to. No, I get to learn 26 00:02:23,850 --> 00:02:24,619 KT: a lot today. 27 00:02:24,850 --> 00:02:29,059 Suze: Wait, KT. How many of the questions that come in 28 00:02:29,070 --> 00:02:31,750 Suze: that you look at, you, be honest with me now. 29 00:02:31,758 --> 00:02:32,959 KT: 50%. 30 00:02:33,850 --> 00:02:35,190 Suze: Do you know the answer to? 31 00:02:35,199 --> 00:02:39,859 KT: 50%? About 50% after all these years of listening to you? 32 00:02:40,229 --> 00:02:43,320 KT: I think I know about 50% soon. I'll be able 33 00:02:43,330 --> 00:02:45,609 KT: to take over this podcast. 34 00:02:45,619 --> 00:02:48,490 Suze: I'm sure you will. All right, sweetheart. What do you got? 35 00:02:49,479 --> 00:02:53,490 KT: First one is sad, but one that I know so 36 00:02:53,500 --> 00:02:57,690 KT: many people write about. It's from Katina. It's not really sad, 37 00:02:57,820 --> 00:03:01,008 KT: but it's just true. She said hi, Suze. My mother's 38 00:03:01,020 --> 00:03:05,690 KT: almost 71 years old and has no burial or life insurance. 39 00:03:05,970 --> 00:03:09,619 KT: She keeps applying for whole life or modified whole life 40 00:03:09,630 --> 00:03:14,149 KT: insurance policies. I keep trying to explain to her that 41 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,830 KT: she's just throwing away her money. 42 00:03:17,220 --> 00:03:20,100 KT: She won't live long enough for it to pay due 43 00:03:20,110 --> 00:03:23,399 KT: to her health. So, Susie, what should we be doing 44 00:03:23,410 --> 00:03:26,919 KT: with her money that would pay the most towards her 45 00:03:26,929 --> 00:03:30,440 KT: funeral expenses. That will ease her worries. 46 00:03:30,449 --> 00:03:34,839 Suze: So, Katina, here's what I don't understand you say in 47 00:03:34,850 --> 00:03:39,179 Suze: this email, she won't live long enough for 48 00:03:39,294 --> 00:03:44,235 Suze: it to pay due to her health. That makes absolutely 49 00:03:44,244 --> 00:03:48,904 Suze: no sense because the reasons that she's getting this is 50 00:03:48,914 --> 00:03:52,705 Suze: that if she dies sooner than later, she has some 51 00:03:52,714 --> 00:03:56,414 Suze: money to pay for her burial. What you need to 52 00:03:56,425 --> 00:03:59,755 Suze: do is sit down with her and find out how 53 00:03:59,764 --> 00:04:01,195 Suze: much money she has. 54 00:04:01,779 --> 00:04:06,199 Suze: Does she have enough money right now to pay for 55 00:04:06,210 --> 00:04:12,160 Suze: her funeral expenses? And just simply do a prepaid funeral, 56 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:16,119 Suze: just do that so she knows that is covered 57 00:04:16,450 --> 00:04:20,250 Suze: and therefore she doesn't have to buy insurance anymore to 58 00:04:20,260 --> 00:04:23,989 Suze: do it. Obviously, she's buying the insurance that she sees 59 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,910 Suze: on TV, for only $9.99 a month, regardless of your 60 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,670 Suze: health conditions, you can get this policy and that's what 61 00:04:32,678 --> 00:04:36,589 Suze: she pays into. So if you don't want her to 62 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,229 Suze: continue to do that, you have to solve her fear 63 00:04:40,238 --> 00:04:44,109 Suze: of why she's doing that and look at her money 64 00:04:44,570 --> 00:04:49,690 Suze: and get a prepaid funeral plan. It's as simple as that. Now, 65 00:04:49,700 --> 00:04:53,890 Suze: if she doesn't have enough money for a prepaid funeral plan, 66 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,890 Suze: can you prepay her funeral for her? Do you have 67 00:04:57,899 --> 00:05:01,869 Suze: enough money. If you don't have enough money for that either? 68 00:05:02,350 --> 00:05:05,320 Suze: Then I have to tell you maybe these little policies 69 00:05:05,329 --> 00:05:09,928 Suze: of $30 a month that might pay for her funeral expenses, 70 00:05:09,940 --> 00:05:14,529 Suze: especially if she is not healthy, might be the way 71 00:05:14,540 --> 00:05:18,429 Suze: to go, believe it or not. Next KT 72 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:23,000 KT: Ok. Next question is from Stephanie dear Suze. I'm so 73 00:05:23,010 --> 00:05:25,529 KT: excited to finally speak to you. 74 00:05:25,540 --> 00:05:27,200 Suze: Are we speaking, Steph? 75 00:05:27,299 --> 00:05:29,078 Suze: How are you girlfriend? 76 00:05:29,089 --> 00:05:32,880 KT: I hope you have the time to answer my sincere question. 77 00:05:33,109 --> 00:05:36,570 KT: A few months ago. I finally got brave enough to 78 00:05:36,579 --> 00:05:40,570 KT: take control of an old 403 B I had from 79 00:05:40,579 --> 00:05:44,200 KT: a job 20 years ago, I set up a roll 80 00:05:44,209 --> 00:05:49,019 KT: over 401k account with Vanguard in preparation because that is 81 00:05:49,029 --> 00:05:52,109 KT: where I have my Roth IRA. Thanks to you. 82 00:05:52,510 --> 00:05:55,670 KT: Then I called Voya and asked them to do a 83 00:05:55,678 --> 00:05:59,970 KT: custodian to custodian transfer. They tried to send me the 84 00:05:59,980 --> 00:06:03,529 KT: money and I said, absolutely not. I don't want it 85 00:06:03,540 --> 00:06:07,950 KT: sent anywhere other than Vanguard and gave them the address. 86 00:06:08,170 --> 00:06:11,529 KT: The woman said she understood and a check would be 87 00:06:11,540 --> 00:06:14,559 KT: sent out. But when she said the amount, it was 88 00:06:14,570 --> 00:06:16,010 KT: less than what it should be. 89 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,459 KT: When I questioned her, she said they had to withhold 20%. 90 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,100 KT: I said, no, I'm not taking the money. I don't 91 00:06:24,109 --> 00:06:25,899 KT: need taxes withheld. 92 00:06:26,399 --> 00:06:28,940 KT: So at the end of the day, she said almost 93 00:06:28,950 --> 00:06:32,479 KT: 8000 was left behind. I asked her what would happen 94 00:06:32,488 --> 00:06:36,450 KT: to this money and she did not reply, Susie, who 95 00:06:36,459 --> 00:06:38,390 KT: got it wrong? And how do I get my money 96 00:06:38,399 --> 00:06:42,420 KT: back under control? Thank you for everything you've taught me. 97 00:06:42,428 --> 00:06:46,010 Suze: Stephanie. I cannot tell you that the representative at Voya 98 00:06:46,019 --> 00:06:51,170 Suze: not necessarily Voya itself, but the person working there could 99 00:06:51,178 --> 00:06:54,899 Suze: not be more wrong if they tried 100 00:06:55,220 --> 00:07:00,000 Suze: when you do a custodian to custodian transfer, 20% is 101 00:07:00,010 --> 00:07:03,868 Suze: not withheld if they were to send you directly the 102 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:09,238 Suze: check made out to Vanguard, 20% does not have to 103 00:07:09,250 --> 00:07:13,500 Suze: be withheld. The fact that they held 20%. I'll tell 104 00:07:13,510 --> 00:07:17,670 Suze: you what happens to that $8000. If you don't take 105 00:07:17,679 --> 00:07:21,440 Suze: $8000 out of your own money right now 106 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,700 Suze: and put it into your Vanguard account out of your 107 00:07:25,709 --> 00:07:26,299 Suze: own money, 108 00:07:27,209 --> 00:07:30,850 Suze: then what's gonna happen is that $8000 is going to 109 00:07:30,859 --> 00:07:35,440 Suze: be taxed to you as ordinary income. The only way 110 00:07:35,450 --> 00:07:39,750 Suze: around that, believe it or not is to take $8000 111 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,390 Suze: out of your own money right now 112 00:07:43,239 --> 00:07:46,329 Suze: and make up for it and put it in to 113 00:07:46,339 --> 00:07:49,170 Suze: the account to make up for that. But that makes 114 00:07:49,179 --> 00:07:55,540 Suze: absolutely no sense. I would be so aggravated at Voya's representative. 115 00:07:55,549 --> 00:07:56,700 Suze: I can't tell you, 116 00:07:57,019 --> 00:08:00,230 Suze: you need to go above this person's head. You need 117 00:08:00,239 --> 00:08:02,970 Suze: to go to the manager of Voya, you need to 118 00:08:02,980 --> 00:08:06,420 Suze: go to anybody at Voya and you need to say 119 00:08:06,429 --> 00:08:11,239 Suze: I want that $8000 that you withheld transferred right now 120 00:08:11,339 --> 00:08:15,100 Suze: into my Vanguard account right now. 121 00:08:15,260 --> 00:08:18,160 Suze: You never should have withheld it. You made a mistake 122 00:08:18,170 --> 00:08:22,679 Suze: and you are 100% wrong. They'll know that they are wrong. 123 00:08:22,690 --> 00:08:27,019 Suze: It's just this one person does not understand the rules 124 00:08:27,029 --> 00:08:30,899 Suze: and it's just that simple, but it's very sad. People 125 00:08:30,910 --> 00:08:33,320 Suze: never ever make that mistake. 126 00:08:34,169 --> 00:08:35,267 Suze: All right, KT. 127 00:08:36,419 --> 00:08:38,328 KT: Yeah, that, that's a big mistake. 128 00:08:38,338 --> 00:08:41,078 Suze: Yeah, but she could take $8000 and put it in 129 00:08:41,088 --> 00:08:43,658 Suze: and make up the difference there. And then when she 130 00:08:43,669 --> 00:08:45,679 Suze: got the $8000 refund, 131 00:08:46,409 --> 00:08:48,968 Suze: it's just a refund to her. But if she doesn't 132 00:08:48,979 --> 00:08:52,780 Suze: do that, that $8000 will be taxable if she can't 133 00:08:52,789 --> 00:08:54,179 Suze: fix it through Voya. 134 00:08:54,190 --> 00:08:55,799 KT: How much time do you have to do that? 135 00:08:55,809 --> 00:08:59,539 Suze: 60 days from the day that they did the transfers. 136 00:09:00,250 --> 00:09:05,630 KT: So next question from Shannon dear Susie, my financial advisor 137 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:10,719 KT: has recommended a fixed income annuity. I am retired at 138 00:09:10,729 --> 00:09:15,270 KT: 67 and already getting social security plus a small pension. 139 00:09:15,650 --> 00:09:22,830 KT: She says income guaranteed for life example, 360,000 into and 140 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:27,770 KT: receive 24,000 a year for life. What should I ask 141 00:09:27,780 --> 00:09:28,469 KT: at our meeting? 142 00:09:28,479 --> 00:09:31,689 Suze: So Shannon, here's what I want you to do. Your 143 00:09:31,700 --> 00:09:35,069 Suze: question to me is what should I ask at our meetings? 144 00:09:36,169 --> 00:09:42,010 Suze: Even before you go into your meeting, you have to decide, 145 00:09:42,020 --> 00:09:45,919 Suze: do you have any beneficiaries that you want to leave 146 00:09:45,929 --> 00:09:50,919 Suze: this money to? Do you have children, nieces, nephews? Do 147 00:09:50,929 --> 00:09:54,400 Suze: you even have like a hospital or any charity that 148 00:09:54,409 --> 00:09:59,478 Suze: you wanna leave it to? Because guaranteed for life? Great. 149 00:10:00,109 --> 00:10:03,218 Suze: However, you don't know how long your life is going 150 00:10:03,229 --> 00:10:07,099 Suze: to go on for. You are only 67 years of age. 151 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,390 Suze: Hopefully you will live for a long period of time, 152 00:10:11,500 --> 00:10:15,020 Suze: but you could also die - accident, whatever it is 153 00:10:15,030 --> 00:10:20,169 Suze: very shortly. So therefore that money will be gone the 154 00:10:20,179 --> 00:10:24,460 Suze: day that you die. So that's a question. If you 155 00:10:24,469 --> 00:10:25,340 Suze: don't care 156 00:10:25,820 --> 00:10:28,809 Suze: if you don't have beneficiaries, all you want is a 157 00:10:28,820 --> 00:10:36,080 Suze: guaranteed income. Ok? That is a 6.6% return on your money, 158 00:10:36,580 --> 00:10:41,400 Suze: but that does not take into consideration inflation or anything 159 00:10:41,409 --> 00:10:46,409 Suze: like that. Is it possible that you could invest that 160 00:10:46,419 --> 00:10:53,478 Suze: $360,000 and take out $24,000 a year for a long 161 00:10:53,489 --> 00:10:54,190 Suze: time 162 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,700 Suze: and probably achieve the exact same thing. Yeah, if you 163 00:10:58,710 --> 00:11:02,619 Suze: know how to invest in bonds in dividend, paying stocks 164 00:11:02,630 --> 00:11:05,250 Suze: and things like that and you want to manage your money, 165 00:11:05,260 --> 00:11:08,199 Suze: you could probably do better than that, believe it or not, 166 00:11:08,210 --> 00:11:13,020 Suze: and have money to leave to your beneficiaries. But if 167 00:11:13,030 --> 00:11:16,460 Suze: you just want 24,000 a year coming in for the 168 00:11:16,469 --> 00:11:18,900 Suze: rest of your life and you don't have to think 169 00:11:18,909 --> 00:11:20,570 Suze: about it. Ok, 170 00:11:21,219 --> 00:11:24,780 Suze: I don't have a problem with that. So what should 171 00:11:24,789 --> 00:11:29,469 Suze: you ask at your meeting? Number one: I just think 172 00:11:29,479 --> 00:11:31,570 Suze: it's important for you to know 173 00:11:32,229 --> 00:11:37,709 Suze: how much commission this woman is going to get, if 174 00:11:37,719 --> 00:11:48,469 Suze: you put $360,000 into this. Next, you also say in this, right? 175 00:11:48,479 --> 00:11:50,770 Suze: That even though KT didn't mention it that you have 176 00:11:50,780 --> 00:11:55,330 Suze: another $370,000 invested in equity. 177 00:11:56,099 --> 00:11:59,700 Suze: What do you have That's just safe and sound. Do 178 00:11:59,710 --> 00:12:03,799 Suze: you have a 12 month emergency fund? Do you have 179 00:12:03,809 --> 00:12:07,349 Suze: even more than that? Because if this is all you 180 00:12:07,359 --> 00:12:11,280 Suze: have and you have 360,000 that you're never gonna be 181 00:12:11,289 --> 00:12:16,959 Suze: able to touch again. 370,000 already invested in equities 182 00:12:17,500 --> 00:12:21,919 Suze: that hopefully are generating income for you. And something goes 183 00:12:21,929 --> 00:12:25,679 Suze: wrong at the time when the market has plummeted. Where 184 00:12:25,690 --> 00:12:31,099 Suze: is your money? Where's it gonna come from also? So 185 00:12:31,109 --> 00:12:35,679 Suze: I would just want her to look at your entire situation. 186 00:12:35,690 --> 00:12:36,840 Suze: Not just 187 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,069 Suze: Shannon, just let's put this in and you have 24,000 188 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,830 Suze: a year. Let's look at every aspect of your financial 189 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,070 Suze: life and you should ask her those things. How does 190 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,809 Suze: this fit in? What happens if I need more money 191 00:12:52,820 --> 00:12:57,159 Suze: and you'll find out that. Really? Maybe you wanna do this, 192 00:12:57,169 --> 00:13:03,659 Suze: maybe you don't wanna do it with $360,000. Maybe you're like, 193 00:13:03,669 --> 00:13:04,380 Suze: you know what? 194 00:13:04,799 --> 00:13:08,718 Suze: I'm 67. I'm getting social security. I have a small pension. 195 00:13:08,729 --> 00:13:13,020 Suze: I'm doing all right. Maybe, maybe I own a mortgage 196 00:13:13,030 --> 00:13:15,179 Suze: on my house and it's better off paying the mortgage 197 00:13:15,190 --> 00:13:18,099 Suze: off on my house. There are other things for you 198 00:13:18,109 --> 00:13:19,140 Suze: to consider. 199 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,390 Suze: But what should I ask at our meeting? I just 200 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,299 Suze: gave you an example of a few things that I 201 00:13:25,309 --> 00:13:28,390 Suze: want you to think about and what that spurs in 202 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,390 Suze: you that you should ask. All right. 203 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,309 KT: Ok. Next question, I love this. Next question ready? 204 00:13:35,825 --> 00:13:38,843 KT: This is from Susan. She said hi, Suze and KT. Thank 205 00:13:38,854 --> 00:13:43,324 KT: you for all your knowledge within the last two years. Listen, 206 00:13:43,335 --> 00:13:47,645 KT: everybody within the last two years I was able to 207 00:13:47,655 --> 00:13:53,395 KT: go from $0 in retirement and investments to close to 208 00:13:53,405 --> 00:13:56,825 KT: 350,000 today. 209 00:13:57,169 --> 00:14:00,789 KT: She said, Suze, I wouldn't be here without you. I can't. 210 00:14:00,799 --> 00:14:05,380 KT: Thank you enough. I have a question about individual brokerage 211 00:14:05,390 --> 00:14:09,419 KT: account and gains. This is my first year investing into 212 00:14:09,429 --> 00:14:15,460 KT: individual brokerage accounts. If I sell my stock in Palantir, ready. 213 00:14:15,710 --> 00:14:20,520 KT: Thanks to your suggestions, Suze, I bought it at $16. 214 00:14:20,739 --> 00:14:21,840 KT: What is it today? 215 00:14:22,090 --> 00:14:23,940 Suze: It's around 70 KT. 216 00:14:24,039 --> 00:14:27,559 KT: Yeah. Ok. So if I sold, do I have to 217 00:14:27,570 --> 00:14:33,460 KT: pay capital gains? Can I avoid being taxed in any way? So, 218 00:14:33,469 --> 00:14:36,479 KT: and then she says, thank you so much. That's from Susan. 219 00:14:36,489 --> 00:14:40,200 Suze: So first, let me set the record straight, Everybody. It 220 00:14:40,210 --> 00:14:42,270 Suze: was Keith Fitzgerald 221 00:14:42,719 --> 00:14:51,059 Suze: that recommended Palantir across the board at $7 a share seven. 222 00:14:51,799 --> 00:14:55,260 Suze: And that's when I started to talk about it and 223 00:14:55,270 --> 00:14:59,619 Suze: everything even I went on CNBC and I said, everybody, 224 00:14:59,630 --> 00:15:01,390 Suze: you should buy it and now it's up like three 225 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,669 Suze: or 400% since then. So hopefully you listened when we 226 00:15:05,679 --> 00:15:09,380 Suze: first started to talk about it or when Keith first 227 00:15:09,390 --> 00:15:13,500 Suze: mentioned it. So is there any way if you sell 228 00:15:13,510 --> 00:15:18,640 Suze: it to avoid capital gains? No, the real question is 229 00:15:18,900 --> 00:15:20,619 Suze: you really think you should sell it? 230 00:15:21,140 --> 00:15:23,760 Suze: This is like a once in a lifetime kind of 231 00:15:23,770 --> 00:15:28,679 Suze: stock that very probably according to Keith will go from 232 00:15:28,690 --> 00:15:34,349 Suze: 70 to 85 up to in the 100 area, will 233 00:15:34,359 --> 00:15:38,039 Suze: it or will it not? I don't know. But Keith 234 00:15:38,049 --> 00:15:41,580 Suze: also has a thing of once you have doubled your 235 00:15:41,590 --> 00:15:45,280 Suze: money in your situation, if it went from 16 to 236 00:15:45,289 --> 00:15:50,679 Suze: 32 you should take those shares off the table. 237 00:15:51,369 --> 00:15:55,679 Suze: And that is because now everything else that's in there, 238 00:15:55,770 --> 00:15:59,929 Suze: it's a free trade. You took the money, you originally 239 00:15:59,940 --> 00:16:03,950 Suze: invested off the table and maybe you just hold it 240 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,270 Suze: on the sidelines for a while. And if Palantir goes 241 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:11,119 Suze: back down, you reinvest it or you take that money 242 00:16:11,130 --> 00:16:15,299 Suze: and you invest it in something else. You could also 243 00:16:15,309 --> 00:16:18,369 Suze: sell half, if it's making you nervous, you don't have 244 00:16:18,380 --> 00:16:20,809 Suze: to be an all or nothing investor. 245 00:16:21,380 --> 00:16:26,770 Suze: I own Palantir. I own a lot of Palantir, KT 246 00:16:26,780 --> 00:16:32,719 Suze: owns a lot of Palantir. We listened to Keith and 247 00:16:32,729 --> 00:16:35,080 Suze: there were many times when it went from 7 to 248 00:16:35,090 --> 00:16:40,479 Suze: 14 to 28 to 30 we were tempted, right? We're 249 00:16:40,489 --> 00:16:44,539 Suze: still holding, I'm going to listen to him about this 250 00:16:44,659 --> 00:16:46,809 Suze: because he chose it for a reason 251 00:16:47,169 --> 00:16:50,049 Suze: and I think it's up to you. But the answer 252 00:16:50,059 --> 00:16:53,710 Suze: to your question is if you sell it, you absolutely 253 00:16:53,719 --> 00:16:57,140 Suze: have to pay capital gains tax on it. All right. 254 00:16:57,349 --> 00:17:01,039 KT: Hi, Suze. And, and this name I said I'm, I'm 255 00:17:01,049 --> 00:17:04,760 KT: gonna use her name because I love the name Ma Angelina. 256 00:17:04,770 --> 00:17:08,260 KT: I think her name, she's the mom and her email 257 00:17:08,270 --> 00:17:10,229 KT: is Ma Angelina. 258 00:17:10,239 --> 00:17:11,030 Suze: Hi, Mama. 259 00:17:12,030 --> 00:17:14,718 KT: I'm 64 years old and I have a special needs 260 00:17:14,729 --> 00:17:19,319 KT: son who's 26. I underwent a divorce a year ago. 261 00:17:19,550 --> 00:17:23,630 KT: I have updated my estate trust and advanced directives with 262 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:28,000 KT: power of attorney. I have a 401k Roth IRA and 263 00:17:28,010 --> 00:17:33,239 KT: an annuity with Equitable. My banker is asking me to 264 00:17:33,250 --> 00:17:39,140 KT: invest in a nationwide variable annuity for my retirement which 265 00:17:39,150 --> 00:17:41,560 KT: will help me with my son's future. 266 00:17:41,930 --> 00:17:44,609 KT: I'm not retired yet and would like to in a 267 00:17:44,619 --> 00:17:48,979 KT: year or two. Should I invest 100,000 in a variable 268 00:17:48,989 --> 00:17:53,069 KT: annuity ready for this Suze? My net worth is about 269 00:17:53,079 --> 00:17:54,790 KT: a million dollars. 270 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,290 KT: Ok. She's 64. 271 00:17:58,300 --> 00:17:59,109 Suze: Look at my face, 272 00:17:59,699 --> 00:18:01,790 KT: I know I'm not gonna describe, 273 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,780 Suze: Describe my face. Come on, 274 00:18:04,910 --> 00:18:05,739 Suze: Just describe it. 275 00:18:05,959 --> 00:18:10,000 KT: Her face is getting red. It has that expression of like, 276 00:18:10,010 --> 00:18:11,119 KT: are you kidding me? 277 00:18:11,130 --> 00:18:12,550 Suze: Are you kidding me? 278 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,329 KT: All right. So let's tell her what to do. 279 00:18:14,339 --> 00:18:19,130 Suze: Mama bear. The very first thing that's important is that 280 00:18:19,140 --> 00:18:24,849 Suze: you have a special needs son, which most likely means 281 00:18:24,869 --> 00:18:30,489 Suze: that he's on SSI social security income. All right. And 282 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,689 Suze: if he inherits money from you 283 00:18:34,050 --> 00:18:38,910 Suze: after you have died, he will be disqualified from SSI 284 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:43,109 Suze: and good luck ever getting back on it. So your 285 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:47,329 Suze: main thing that you need to be doing is getting 286 00:18:47,339 --> 00:18:51,310 Suze: a special needs trust. You need to see a lawyer 287 00:18:51,319 --> 00:18:54,420 Suze: set up a special needs trust. So any money you 288 00:18:54,430 --> 00:18:58,469 Suze: have goes into the special needs trust that can be 289 00:18:58,479 --> 00:19:01,938 Suze: accessed by him or by somebody who's his trustee 290 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:08,280 Suze: and it won't disqualify him. In terms of a variable 291 00:19:08,290 --> 00:19:10,410 Suze: annuity for your retirement. 292 00:19:11,699 --> 00:19:15,099 Suze: Listen, I have a top 10 hate list of investments 293 00:19:15,109 --> 00:19:18,560 Suze: that I hate and I don't use that word lightly. 294 00:19:19,130 --> 00:19:23,750 Suze: I understand when I say that word that it absolutely 295 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,930 Suze: sends Shriver, send shrivers... 296 00:19:25,930 --> 00:19:29,640 KT: Shivers, shivers. 297 00:19:29,959 --> 00:19:34,988 Suze: All right. So it absolutely sends splinters. It sends something 298 00:19:35,550 --> 00:19:40,949 Suze: and like it sends shivers down KT's spine. She hates 299 00:19:40,959 --> 00:19:44,229 Suze: that word hate. Ok. So 300 00:19:44,959 --> 00:19:48,030 Suze: one of the things that I hate the most are 301 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:54,639 Suze: variable annuities. There is not one circumstance on any level 302 00:19:55,130 --> 00:20:00,540 Suze: where it makes sense to do. Not one, not one. 303 00:20:00,989 --> 00:20:04,899 Suze: So therefore, the answer to that question is not only 304 00:20:04,910 --> 00:20:10,040 Suze: should you not invest $100,000 you should never ever invest 305 00:20:10,150 --> 00:20:14,349 Suze: in a variable annuity. If you wanna buy mutual funds, 306 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,280 Suze: if you wanna do things like that, exchange traded funds, 307 00:20:17,290 --> 00:20:19,530 Suze: individual stocks, I don't have a problem with that. 308 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:24,949 Suze: I don't like variable annuities and it seems like you 309 00:20:24,959 --> 00:20:29,280 Suze: already have an annuity with equitable. Hopefully it's a single 310 00:20:29,290 --> 00:20:36,209 Suze: premium deferred annuity and not a variable annuity. All right KT, next. 311 00:20:36,219 --> 00:20:38,109 KT: Ok. This is my last question. 312 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,500 KT: This is from Mary. Hi, KT and Suze. Stock market 313 00:20:42,510 --> 00:20:46,760 KT: keeps going higher and higher. When do I take profits? 314 00:20:46,829 --> 00:20:51,458 KT: I'm 57 and working full time for a modest salary. 315 00:20:51,469 --> 00:20:54,729 KT: I don't need the money now, but I'm counting on 316 00:20:54,739 --> 00:20:58,500 KT: it for retirement. If the market takes a major hit, 317 00:20:58,660 --> 00:21:01,050 KT: how long will it take to recover? 318 00:21:01,589 --> 00:21:05,089 KT: Ready, Suze? She said, I hope you have a crystal ball. 319 00:21:05,099 --> 00:21:07,409 KT: I wanna say Mary, you need a crystal ball for 320 00:21:07,420 --> 00:21:08,729 KT: these questions. 321 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,829 Suze: Well, here's what I can tell you. 322 00:21:12,630 --> 00:21:16,010 Suze: It is very possible if the market were to go 323 00:21:16,020 --> 00:21:20,599 Suze: down significantly, it could take 3, 5 or 10 years, 324 00:21:20,609 --> 00:21:24,489 Suze: believe it or not, for it to recover. 325 00:21:25,099 --> 00:21:29,280 Suze: So you have to ask yourself the question. How long 326 00:21:29,290 --> 00:21:32,119 Suze: have you been invested in the stocks that you are 327 00:21:32,130 --> 00:21:36,280 Suze: invested in? If you were to sell some of them, 328 00:21:36,290 --> 00:21:40,729 Suze: would it be capital gains or ordinary income tax, number one. 329 00:21:40,750 --> 00:21:43,319 Suze: Because you don't want to sell it before you have 330 00:21:43,329 --> 00:21:48,800 Suze: held them for at least one year or longer? Ok. Next, 331 00:21:48,930 --> 00:21:52,219 Suze: you really have to look at your emotion quotient, 332 00:21:52,599 --> 00:21:56,969 Suze: which means how nervous are you? Because the goal of 333 00:21:56,979 --> 00:22:00,339 Suze: money is for you to be secure. And if you 334 00:22:00,349 --> 00:22:03,859 Suze: currently have enough money right now 335 00:22:04,959 --> 00:22:08,129 Suze: that if you were to sell after taxes and you 336 00:22:08,140 --> 00:22:11,739 Suze: put away safe and sound that if you were counting 337 00:22:11,750 --> 00:22:16,409 Suze: on that money for retirement, that it would absolutely be 338 00:22:16,420 --> 00:22:20,359 Suze: there because it would be invested in either bonds or 339 00:22:20,369 --> 00:22:23,930 Suze: whatever that is absolutely safe and sound. 340 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,770 Suze: You are still young. You are 57 years of age. 341 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,569 Suze: So I don't know how long you plan to work, 342 00:22:32,699 --> 00:22:37,760 Suze: but you may plan to work till you're 70 because 343 00:22:37,770 --> 00:22:41,859 Suze: that really should be the new retirement age today, everybody. 344 00:22:41,989 --> 00:22:44,897 Suze: Because that's when full Social Security will kick in - 345 00:22:44,897 --> 00:22:46,530 Suze: perfect age to retire. 346 00:22:47,130 --> 00:22:52,310 Suze: The market seem like they're going to continue up into 2025. 347 00:22:52,410 --> 00:22:55,569 Suze: So I probably would not be selling right now if 348 00:22:55,579 --> 00:22:59,589 Suze: I were you. But anything could happen at any time. 349 00:22:59,979 --> 00:23:03,540 Suze: Sometimes when you don't know what to do, sell half. 350 00:23:04,770 --> 00:23:08,540 Suze: Do something that makes you feel secure. But I like 351 00:23:08,550 --> 00:23:11,989 Suze: that you're invested and if you're invested in stocks or 352 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,550 Suze: even an index fund that went up 30% this year, 353 00:23:17,439 --> 00:23:22,459 Suze: ok. Maybe you just continue to hold on for now. 354 00:23:22,859 --> 00:23:25,869 Suze: But it all comes down to what stocks are you 355 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:31,020 Suze: invested in? What investments do you have? And how do 356 00:23:31,030 --> 00:23:33,819 Suze: they make you feel at this point in time. If 357 00:23:33,829 --> 00:23:36,339 Suze: you are afraid, well, 358 00:23:36,699 --> 00:23:39,369 Suze: there's only one way to squelch that far and that's 359 00:23:39,380 --> 00:23:42,329 Suze: to sell. But then you cannot look back and go. 360 00:23:42,339 --> 00:23:47,060 Suze: Why did I do that? So you might wanna look at, 361 00:23:47,069 --> 00:23:49,489 Suze: do you have anything that's doubled in value? 362 00:23:49,959 --> 00:23:52,550 Suze: And if it's doubled in value, do what Keith calls 363 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,879 Suze: a free trade, sell those shares that doubled and let 364 00:23:55,890 --> 00:23:59,410 Suze: the rest ride. All right, KT. You know what time 365 00:23:59,420 --> 00:24:00,219 Suze: it is right now. 366 00:24:00,229 --> 00:24:01,260 KT: Quizzy time. 367 00:24:01,339 --> 00:24:02,139 Suze: Are you excited? 368 00:24:02,430 --> 00:24:05,310 KT: Yes, Suze. Quizzy's are not my favorite, but I'll never 369 00:24:05,319 --> 00:24:07,770 KT: stop trying. I'm gonna go for the gold ring. 370 00:24:08,770 --> 00:24:09,879 Suze: Who's giving you a gold ring? 371 00:24:09,890 --> 00:24:12,989 KT: The gold ring is, is a metaphor. It's a saying 372 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,579 KT: when you're on a merry go round, you try to 373 00:24:14,589 --> 00:24:15,790 KT: grab the gold ring. 374 00:24:15,810 --> 00:24:17,608 Suze: It was never gold when I went on a merry 375 00:24:17,608 --> 00:24:17,640 Suze: go round. 376 00:24:20,890 --> 00:24:24,790 Suze: So this is from Linda, which is, this is, this 377 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,140 Suze: is my half birthday. You have to be nice to me. 378 00:24:28,270 --> 00:24:29,229 KT: Ok. 379 00:24:29,239 --> 00:24:30,540 Suze: Did you get me a present? 380 00:24:30,819 --> 00:24:31,609 KT: I did. 381 00:24:32,380 --> 00:24:34,689 KT: You'll get it, you'll get it at dinner time. 382 00:24:35,219 --> 00:24:36,718 Suze: Are they my favorite things? 383 00:24:36,729 --> 00:24:40,199 KT: Maybe, maybe let's not talk about it, let's not talk about. 384 00:24:40,219 --> 00:24:43,280 Suze: All right. My question is, again, this is from Linda. 385 00:24:43,329 --> 00:24:47,439 Suze: What would be better to open a traditional Roth, 386 00:24:48,319 --> 00:24:54,790 Suze: a Roth IRA or mutual funds for five years? Which 387 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,219 Suze: one would be better KT? 388 00:24:56,229 --> 00:25:00,449 KT: Probably it says for five years. Oh, that's a mutual fund. 389 00:25:00,459 --> 00:25:02,339 KT: Probably the Roth IRA. 390 00:25:03,380 --> 00:25:06,250 Suze: Are you sure? What about traditional Roth? 391 00:25:06,260 --> 00:25:09,669 KT: I think the Roth a traditional Roth. 392 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,469 KT: Well, one is, um, I think the Roth Ira will 393 00:25:14,479 --> 00:25:17,290 KT: give her more benefits. Does say say how old she is? 394 00:25:17,729 --> 00:25:18,024 Suze: No. 395 00:25:18,023 --> 00:25:18,319 KT: Oh. 396 00:25:20,619 --> 00:25:22,199 KT: Maybe the Roth IRA. 397 00:25:22,339 --> 00:25:23,409 Suze: Maybe? 398 00:25:24,260 --> 00:25:27,130 KT: Definitely. I mean, that's my final answer. 399 00:25:28,510 --> 00:25:28,869 Suze: Ding Ding Ding Ding. 400 00:25:28,869 --> 00:25:29,699 KT: See Roth Ira. 401 00:25:29,790 --> 00:25:33,489 Suze: I gave you a ding ding ding ding. Linda, you 402 00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:37,079 Suze: need to listen to me. First of all, there's no 403 00:25:37,089 --> 00:25:43,479 Suze: such thing as a traditional Roth. It's a traditional IRA, 404 00:25:43,959 --> 00:25:47,069 Suze: which simply means it is pre taxed. 405 00:25:47,489 --> 00:25:53,359 Suze: A Roth IRA is after tax and mutual funds are 406 00:25:53,369 --> 00:25:57,449 Suze: just simply an investment. What you need to understand is 407 00:25:57,459 --> 00:26:03,589 Suze: that within the Roth IRA, you can buy mutual funds 408 00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:06,680 Suze: so they're not mutually exclusive. It's not like, oh, you 409 00:26:06,689 --> 00:26:08,750 Suze: can just do mutual funds or you can just do 410 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:13,630 Suze: a Roth. A Roth IRA is a tax free house 411 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:14,579 Suze: for money 412 00:26:15,140 --> 00:26:18,560 Suze: and within that house you have to hold an investment 413 00:26:18,739 --> 00:26:22,829 Suze: and the investments you can hold are mutual funds, exchange 414 00:26:22,839 --> 00:26:27,839 Suze: traded funds, individual stocks, whatever it is that you want. 415 00:26:28,180 --> 00:26:32,640 Suze: So a Roth IRA and within the Roth IRA you 416 00:26:32,650 --> 00:26:38,650 Suze: decide what you want to buy. All right, everybody. Party time, party, time, 417 00:26:38,660 --> 00:26:39,599 Suze: party time. 418 00:26:40,219 --> 00:26:42,650 Suze: Ok. Are you getting ready for your sister? She's gonna 419 00:26:42,660 --> 00:26:44,209 Suze: land in just a few hours. 420 00:26:44,219 --> 00:26:49,489 KT: So, Suze, let's do a sister's podcast on Sunday, Sunday sisters. 421 00:26:49,579 --> 00:26:50,969 Suze: With Barbara? 422 00:26:51,849 --> 00:26:54,880 KT: Let's do it with Barbara. Let's tell... Barbara, by the way, 423 00:26:54,890 --> 00:26:59,479 KT: everyone is the mom of Travis and Sophia, she's our 424 00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:00,530 KT: little sister. 425 00:27:00,540 --> 00:27:04,010 Suze: Sophia is my favorite. Travis is KT's favorite. 426 00:27:04,489 --> 00:27:06,399 Suze: Oh God, these kids are so great. 427 00:27:06,489 --> 00:27:10,520 KT: So let's um let's do a sister's podcast. That will 428 00:27:10,530 --> 00:27:14,000 KT: be fun if you want that. Everyone right into the 429 00:27:14,010 --> 00:27:16,680 KT: women and Money app and tell Suze. Yes. Yes. Yes. 430 00:27:16,689 --> 00:27:17,599 KT: Do it, do it, do it. 431 00:27:17,609 --> 00:27:19,849 Suze: And by the way, the Women and Money app is 432 00:27:19,859 --> 00:27:22,660 Suze: something that I love. You can download it for free 433 00:27:22,670 --> 00:27:26,729 Suze: at Apple Apps or Google Play. Just search for women 434 00:27:26,739 --> 00:27:30,359 Suze: and Money and you are in all right, everybody. 435 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,030 Suze: So it is my half birthday and I do have 436 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:35,698 Suze: a wish. 437 00:27:35,949 --> 00:27:37,060 KT: What is it? 438 00:27:37,189 --> 00:27:40,969 Suze: My wish is that for all of you, for all 439 00:27:40,979 --> 00:27:45,430 Suze: of you to be safe and sound, to know that 440 00:27:45,439 --> 00:27:49,339 Suze: you all have the ability to be the masters of 441 00:27:49,349 --> 00:27:51,219 Suze: your own financial destiny 442 00:27:52,109 --> 00:27:55,530 Suze: and may financial freedom bless really every one of your 443 00:27:55,540 --> 00:27:59,810 Suze: doorsteps and may God bless every single one of you 444 00:28:00,010 --> 00:28:03,939 Suze: and may you always be unstoppable.