1 00:00:46,668 --> 00:00:51,668 Suze: April 18th, 2024. Welcome everybody to the Women and Money podcast. 2 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,459 KT: And everyone's smart enough to listen. 3 00:00:53,470 --> 00:00:57,990 Suze: This is the Ask KT and Suze Anything edition. Want to 4 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,819 Suze: ask a question, just go to ask Suze Suze podcast 5 00:01:03,189 --> 00:01:03,319 Suze: at Gmail 6 00:01:03,750 --> 00:01:07,349 Suze: dot com. Send in your question if KT chooses it, 7 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,040 Suze: it will be on the podcast. But I just have 8 00:01:10,050 --> 00:01:15,389 Suze: to say something. Thousands of questions have come in thousands 9 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:21,089 Suze: and thousands and thousands. So just be patient. If you 10 00:01:21,099 --> 00:01:22,399 Suze: want to send in your question again. 11 00:01:22,660 --> 00:01:24,599 Suze: I don't know. I'm just telling you. 12 00:01:25,010 --> 00:01:29,319 KT: She's overwhelmed today. She's overwhelmed because there's so much she 13 00:01:29,330 --> 00:01:32,518 KT: loves to answer all of you, whether it's on the 14 00:01:32,529 --> 00:01:35,879 KT: podcast or an email or any way she can. And 15 00:01:35,889 --> 00:01:38,319 KT: she is overwhelmed today. 16 00:01:38,330 --> 00:01:39,559 Suze: Because I want to answer, 17 00:01:39,830 --> 00:01:42,239 KT: Calm down. I'll help you. 18 00:01:42,250 --> 00:01:42,550 Suze: You can't... 19 00:01:42,559 --> 00:01:44,180 KT: Just don't give me a Roth question. 20 00:01:44,620 --> 00:01:47,410 Suze: But you know what I was thinking, wouldn't it be 21 00:01:47,419 --> 00:01:51,410 Suze: great if there was an artificial intelligence, Suze that could 22 00:01:51,419 --> 00:01:58,010 Suze: answer every one of those questions. You never know. All right, 23 00:01:58,019 --> 00:02:02,169 Suze: before we begin, want to tell everybody about our anniversary? 24 00:02:02,470 --> 00:02:05,879 KT: We had the best anniversary this week. It was real. 25 00:02:06,339 --> 00:02:08,970 KT: We're celebrating. We're still, 26 00:02:08,979 --> 00:02:10,000 Suze: She made me cry. 27 00:02:10,220 --> 00:02:11,329 KT: I did make her cry. 28 00:02:11,339 --> 00:02:12,330 Suze: Tell them why. 29 00:02:14,710 --> 00:02:20,410 KT: Really? So for our anniversary, I made Suze a delicious dinner, 30 00:02:20,619 --> 00:02:21,728 KT: early dinner. 31 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,899 KT: And when it was time for dessert, she usually always 32 00:02:24,910 --> 00:02:29,610 KT: gets a little caramel. But this time I did something special. 33 00:02:29,869 --> 00:02:35,059 KT: I actually brought a beautiful plate with a gold candle. 34 00:02:35,070 --> 00:02:41,168 KT: And on it were three Kilwins dark chocolate covered 35 00:02:41,699 --> 00:02:47,169 KT: toffees, right? She loves them so much that I had 36 00:02:47,179 --> 00:02:50,720 KT: to actually buy them in Florida. Hide it, bring it 37 00:02:50,729 --> 00:02:53,759 KT: over and every time she would look at me, I 38 00:02:53,770 --> 00:02:56,559 KT: for dessert, I wanted to give her one, but I 39 00:02:56,570 --> 00:02:59,960 KT: actually hid them and she started crying when I brought 40 00:02:59,970 --> 00:03:00,538 KT: that out. 41 00:03:00,550 --> 00:03:03,198 Suze: I love those so much. I can't tell you, but 42 00:03:03,210 --> 00:03:06,799 Suze: I really started crying because of KT's thoughtfulness. 43 00:03:07,008 --> 00:03:07,899 KT: And my card. 44 00:03:07,910 --> 00:03:09,679 Suze: And, and what did I give you? 45 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:14,220 KT: She gave me a um a, a voice card instead of, 46 00:03:14,229 --> 00:03:17,059 KT: she said, you know, all these years, I've always written 47 00:03:17,070 --> 00:03:22,529 KT: you anniversary and birthday letter Christmas holiday. She writes me 48 00:03:22,538 --> 00:03:26,399 KT: beautiful letters one day, I'll publish them and make a fortune. 49 00:03:26,410 --> 00:03:31,660 KT: But she writes beautiful, beautiful, beautiful letters, love letters. So 50 00:03:31,669 --> 00:03:35,740 KT: this year she decided to give me a voice card 51 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,029 KT: and it was fabulous. And I said, please transcribe it 52 00:03:40,190 --> 00:03:42,720 KT: so I can read it because what if I lose it? 53 00:03:42,729 --> 00:03:46,259 Suze: You won't lose it. But I think it's important that 54 00:03:46,559 --> 00:03:48,960 Suze: I know my voice is on the air and KT 55 00:03:48,970 --> 00:03:51,979 Suze: can always watch old TV shows and everything of me. 56 00:03:51,990 --> 00:03:53,759 KT: No, this was for me. Right. 57 00:03:53,809 --> 00:03:55,820 Suze: But this was for KT 58 00:03:56,490 --> 00:04:00,270 Suze: in a voice that I probably wouldn't use on the air. 59 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,889 Suze: So that's what we did. We had a great time. 60 00:04:02,899 --> 00:04:04,869 Suze: All right, KT what have you got? 61 00:04:04,919 --> 00:04:08,250 KT: Suze. My first email is not a question. It's actually 62 00:04:08,259 --> 00:04:13,029 KT: a thank you ready. Always ready, dear Suze. I found 63 00:04:13,039 --> 00:04:16,239 KT: myself at home alone this evening, which is a pretty 64 00:04:16,250 --> 00:04:19,458 KT: rare occurrence. My husband had gone to pick up our 65 00:04:19,470 --> 00:04:21,649 KT: son from work and I thought it would be a 66 00:04:21,660 --> 00:04:24,269 KT: good opportunity to enjoy some TV. 67 00:04:24,549 --> 00:04:27,920 KT: So I went to FreeVee and put on the Suzie 68 00:04:27,928 --> 00:04:32,250 KT: Orman Show. So for those of you that don't know, 69 00:04:32,260 --> 00:04:35,308 KT: we have all the episodes from the Suze Orman show 70 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:41,479 KT: on CNBC available on FreeVee TV for free. So just 71 00:04:41,488 --> 00:04:44,329 KT: go to FreeVee and you can watch all kinds of 72 00:04:44,339 --> 00:04:46,170 KT: great Suze Orman. 73 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,899 KT: So in the beginning of that first episode, this is 74 00:04:49,910 --> 00:04:54,459 KT: from Lisa. She said, Suze, you started talking about material 75 00:04:54,470 --> 00:04:56,289 KT: and financial clutter 76 00:04:57,070 --> 00:04:59,950 KT: and she said I had a large pile of documents 77 00:04:59,959 --> 00:05:03,980 KT: that I had accumulated, which needed to be shredded. I 78 00:05:03,988 --> 00:05:07,669 KT: actually like shredding as a receptionist for a law firm. 79 00:05:07,678 --> 00:05:11,299 KT: It's something I do daily. I find it soothing. But 80 00:05:11,309 --> 00:05:14,250 KT: for some reason I had let the pile at my 81 00:05:14,260 --> 00:05:16,500 KT: home grow for months. 82 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:22,779 KT: I paused the show and immediately shredded everything in that pile. 83 00:05:22,790 --> 00:05:26,299 KT: By the time my husband and son got home and settled, 84 00:05:26,428 --> 00:05:30,339 KT: I was finished and we sat down and continued watching 85 00:05:30,350 --> 00:05:35,029 KT: together as I'm heading to bed. Now, I feel so 86 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,440 KT: much lighter. 87 00:05:36,809 --> 00:05:40,558 KT: I did not realize how much that pile was weighing 88 00:05:40,570 --> 00:05:44,428 KT: on me. Thank you, Suze. You inspire me to be 89 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,329 KT: better in so many ways. Sincerely, Lisa. 90 00:05:48,359 --> 00:05:49,119 Suze: I love that. 91 00:05:49,250 --> 00:05:52,410 KT: Isn't that great? It really does feel good when you 92 00:05:52,420 --> 00:05:54,339 KT: get rid of clutter, doesn't it? 93 00:05:55,065 --> 00:05:55,914 Suze: What do I do all the time? 94 00:05:55,924 --> 00:05:59,595 KT: Oh, she throws things away my things away every day. 95 00:05:59,605 --> 00:06:00,625 KT: All right. Next question. 96 00:06:00,684 --> 00:06:03,724 Suze: I just want to say something, KT for those of 97 00:06:03,734 --> 00:06:08,183 Suze: you who haven't gone to FreeVee yet. Haven't watched the 98 00:06:08,195 --> 00:06:11,375 Suze: Suze Orman shows. It's funny to see my outfits, glasses, 99 00:06:11,385 --> 00:06:12,974 Suze: all the things, haircuts. 100 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:18,079 Suze: The contract with Amazon is going to be up shortly 101 00:06:18,290 --> 00:06:20,738 Suze: and who knows if we'll renew or what will happen 102 00:06:20,750 --> 00:06:24,849 Suze: with that. So, don't miss it. Go now and look 103 00:06:24,859 --> 00:06:29,618 Suze: at the episodes. They're actually fabulous. Many of them timeless 104 00:06:30,119 --> 00:06:33,320 Suze: and always entertaining. All right, KT. 105 00:06:33,329 --> 00:06:36,099 KT: So this next one is from Gracie, Suze and I 106 00:06:36,109 --> 00:06:39,459 KT: think Gracie needs maybe a little Suze slap down. All right, 107 00:06:39,470 --> 00:06:40,178 KT: here we go. 108 00:06:40,730 --> 00:06:43,630 KT: Hi, Suze and KT. I hate to admit that I've 109 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:48,029 KT: given up a bit dramatic. I know I've always heard 110 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,630 KT: that people my age will never be able to afford 111 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:56,390 KT: a home. You ready for this? Everyone. Gracie's 34 years old. 112 00:06:56,470 --> 00:06:59,559 KT: She said over the past 12 months, I'm starting to 113 00:06:59,570 --> 00:07:00,350 KT: believe it. 114 00:07:00,809 --> 00:07:03,950 KT: I earn a decent salary from my area. She makes 115 00:07:03,959 --> 00:07:09,600 KT: $87,000 a year. I own my car. Have a fully 116 00:07:09,609 --> 00:07:15,049 KT: funded emergency fund. I'm self diagnosed, allergic to debt, so 117 00:07:15,059 --> 00:07:15,989 KT: I have none. 118 00:07:16,679 --> 00:07:20,260 KT: Wait. She said the average home price in my area 119 00:07:20,269 --> 00:07:25,980 KT: is around 450,000. It just seems impossible. I feel bad 120 00:07:25,989 --> 00:07:29,279 KT: for complaining because I'm in a good spot in my life. 121 00:07:29,290 --> 00:07:33,640 KT: I want to eventually get married. Have a family. But overall, 122 00:07:33,649 --> 00:07:35,820 KT: I wanna have something of my own 123 00:07:36,209 --> 00:07:39,019 KT: outside of earning more money. I do not see any 124 00:07:39,029 --> 00:07:42,459 KT: light at the end of the tunnel. Any advice would 125 00:07:42,470 --> 00:07:47,078 KT: be appreciated, Suze, what are you gonna tell Gracie? 126 00:07:47,089 --> 00:07:50,220 Suze: Gracie? I think you should take your name more seriously. 127 00:07:50,250 --> 00:07:50,640 KT: Oh... 128 00:07:51,489 --> 00:07:54,890 Suze: I have a thing about names. I always look at 129 00:07:54,899 --> 00:07:59,970 Suze: somebody's name when I answer a question and your name 130 00:07:59,980 --> 00:08:00,769 Suze: is Gracie. 131 00:08:02,070 --> 00:08:02,850 Suze: Grace. 132 00:08:03,649 --> 00:08:06,480 Suze: You have to look at what you have, not at 133 00:08:06,489 --> 00:08:09,070 Suze: what you wish you could have. 134 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:15,630 Suze: So, Gracie, 34 years of age, look at everything you 135 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,670 Suze: do have. First of all, you're lucky enough to have 136 00:08:18,679 --> 00:08:23,119 Suze: a career to be making 87,000 to be allergic to debt, 137 00:08:23,130 --> 00:08:26,519 Suze: to not have any debt. Therefore, there are so many 138 00:08:26,529 --> 00:08:32,599 Suze: things that you have, stop feeling sorry for yourself thinking 139 00:08:32,609 --> 00:08:35,770 Suze: that it is impossible. 140 00:08:36,309 --> 00:08:41,369 Suze: Nothing is impossible in life. Maybe just not right now, 141 00:08:41,380 --> 00:08:46,890 Suze: but one day, absolutely. It's possible. How is it possible? 142 00:08:46,900 --> 00:08:52,299 Suze: Keep saving money, save, save, save, save, spend less, less, less, less. 143 00:08:52,309 --> 00:08:56,409 Suze: Eventually you'll have more money to put down. 144 00:08:56,919 --> 00:09:00,500 Suze: If you have more money to put down on a home, 145 00:09:00,590 --> 00:09:05,219 Suze: not just $90,000 if the house is 450,000. So that's 146 00:09:05,229 --> 00:09:10,289 Suze: a 20% down payment, but 200,000 to put down 300,000 147 00:09:10,299 --> 00:09:14,219 Suze: to put down, then you probably will be able to 148 00:09:14,229 --> 00:09:18,650 Suze: afford the monthly payments. If you continue to think you can't, 149 00:09:18,789 --> 00:09:23,679 Suze: you never ever will. Gracie, your thoughts are more powerful 150 00:09:23,690 --> 00:09:26,340 Suze: than you have any idea. Your words. 151 00:09:26,849 --> 00:09:32,489 Suze: How you feel is what creates your future. Stop thinking 152 00:09:32,500 --> 00:09:37,189 Suze: this saying this and feeling it change your ways and 153 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,869 Suze: I promise you one day you will write me in saying, 154 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,150 Suze: guess what Suze? 155 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:48,260 Suze: Grace was bestowed upon me and I bought my first house. Now, 156 00:09:48,270 --> 00:09:51,039 Suze: the other thing that's funny, KT, eventually, Gracie says she 157 00:09:51,049 --> 00:09:53,750 Suze: wants to get married, she wants to have kids, maybe 158 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,099 Suze: together with her spouse, she'll be able to do that. 159 00:09:57,690 --> 00:09:59,890 Suze: And what she always has to remember is she wants 160 00:09:59,900 --> 00:10:03,380 Suze: to own something of her own. She owns her money, 161 00:10:03,390 --> 00:10:07,250 Suze: she owns her retirement account, she owns all of those things, 162 00:10:08,030 --> 00:10:11,650 Suze: those are assets. So it's not just a house, that's 163 00:10:11,659 --> 00:10:12,890 Suze: an asset. All right. Go on. 164 00:10:12,900 --> 00:10:17,000 KT: Ok. Next question from Kelly. Hi, Suze. I have a 165 00:10:17,010 --> 00:10:22,539 KT: question about life insurance. We have a 500,000 whole life 166 00:10:22,549 --> 00:10:23,489 KT: policy 167 00:10:23,780 --> 00:10:27,349 KT: and I'm wondering, should I put this in our trust? 168 00:10:27,409 --> 00:10:31,109 KT: Will the beneficiaries have to pay tax on this amount? 169 00:10:31,309 --> 00:10:34,960 KT: And if we change the beneficiary to the owner of 170 00:10:34,969 --> 00:10:39,348 KT: the policy, will that work for tax purposes? So, Kelly 171 00:10:39,359 --> 00:10:40,659 KT: lives in Florida. 172 00:10:40,909 --> 00:10:44,900 Suze: Kelly, what you have to understand, it depends when you die, obviously. 173 00:10:44,989 --> 00:10:51,710 Suze: But currently the estate tax limit is approximately $13 million 174 00:10:51,719 --> 00:10:52,520 Suze: a person. 175 00:10:53,250 --> 00:10:56,609 Suze: So yes, whoever is the owner of this policy, if 176 00:10:56,619 --> 00:11:01,689 Suze: they were to die, that $500,000 will be included in 177 00:11:01,700 --> 00:11:06,390 Suze: their estate. If you, for instance, are the primary beneficiary 178 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,539 Suze: of that policy, it all goes to you 179 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:14,150 Suze: and because you're the spouse, there is no estate taxes. 180 00:11:14,489 --> 00:11:17,289 Suze: If let's say you and your spouse were killed in 181 00:11:17,299 --> 00:11:22,340 Suze: a car crash together again, you each can leave 13 182 00:11:22,349 --> 00:11:25,260 Suze: million right now right around there to your beneficiaries. 183 00:11:26,469 --> 00:11:30,770 Suze: So I doubt highly highly that you have to worry 184 00:11:30,780 --> 00:11:35,979 Suze: about this. So no, you shouldn't put it in your trust. 185 00:11:35,989 --> 00:11:41,929 Suze: Just leave a named beneficiary. So it will go directly to them. However, 186 00:11:41,940 --> 00:11:44,939 Suze: let's just say you were in a situation where you 187 00:11:44,950 --> 00:11:49,549 Suze: had 30 or $40 million to your name, then the 188 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,049 Suze: $500,000 whole life policy on death would be added to 189 00:11:53,059 --> 00:11:54,010 Suze: the estate 190 00:11:54,270 --> 00:11:56,929 Suze: and yes estate taxes would be in it 191 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,599 Suze: to get around that you would create what's called a 192 00:12:00,609 --> 00:12:06,150 Suze: life insurance trust where the trust owns the insurance policy 193 00:12:06,159 --> 00:12:10,219 Suze: upon death, it's out of your estate. But just somehow 194 00:12:10,229 --> 00:12:16,659 Suze: I don't think you're in that situation. Remember, in 2026 everybody, 195 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:21,530 Suze: estate taxes are deemed to go back down again, maybe 196 00:12:21,539 --> 00:12:24,989 Suze: to $5 million or whatever they may be. The, the 197 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,059 Suze: value of an estate 198 00:12:26,489 --> 00:12:31,569 Suze: and income tax brackets are scheduled to go back up. 199 00:12:31,580 --> 00:12:32,189 Suze: All right. 200 00:12:32,479 --> 00:12:36,390 KT: All right. Next question. This is from a Susan. I 201 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:43,479 KT: have about $53,000 in a regular IRA, about 75,000 in 202 00:12:43,489 --> 00:12:48,348 KT: my 403 B I will have about 24,000 for an 203 00:12:48,359 --> 00:12:53,789 KT: emergency fund. I'm 69. I'll be 70 in December. 204 00:12:54,169 --> 00:12:57,449 KT: I've worked as a private registered nurse for the last 205 00:12:57,460 --> 00:13:02,530 KT: two years, full time before that I owe 50,000 on 206 00:13:02,539 --> 00:13:07,130 KT: my home and I'm retiring this April. She's retiring now. 207 00:13:07,549 --> 00:13:14,789 KT: I will clear $1760 monthly on social security. I need 208 00:13:14,799 --> 00:13:22,309 KT: approximately the same amount $1760 for bills and basic needs. 209 00:13:22,659 --> 00:13:27,559 KT: My house payment is about $700 monthly which is included 210 00:13:27,580 --> 00:13:31,959 KT: in this total bill. So her, her question is this, Suze, 211 00:13:31,969 --> 00:13:36,809 KT: should I pay off my house or transfer money into 212 00:13:36,820 --> 00:13:42,460 KT: an annuity or a Roth? So, Susan has a multiple 213 00:13:42,469 --> 00:13:46,400 KT: question here, I guess on how to preserve money for 214 00:13:46,409 --> 00:13:47,460 KT: her retirement. 215 00:13:48,900 --> 00:13:52,400 Suze: Boy, Susan, here is what I would say to you 216 00:13:53,549 --> 00:13:58,849 Suze: if you had listened to me a long, long, long 217 00:13:58,859 --> 00:14:04,090 Suze: time ago, starting actually in 1998 when I did a 218 00:14:04,099 --> 00:14:08,209 Suze: PBS special called The Nine Steps To Financial Freedom. And 219 00:14:08,219 --> 00:14:13,840 Suze: I blew the whole world away America actually by talking 220 00:14:13,849 --> 00:14:16,479 Suze: about a Roth IRA and how they work and how 221 00:14:16,489 --> 00:14:18,799 Suze: it is the best thing out there 222 00:14:19,469 --> 00:14:24,409 Suze: if you had listened at any time since then, and 223 00:14:24,419 --> 00:14:28,559 Suze: you had been investing in a Roth IRA in a 224 00:14:28,570 --> 00:14:33,809 Suze: Roth 403 B and now you're retiring, you could take 225 00:14:33,820 --> 00:14:38,289 Suze: out $50,000 from that account. Either one of them 226 00:14:38,609 --> 00:14:43,130 Suze: absolutely tax free and you could pay off the mortgage 227 00:14:43,140 --> 00:14:47,780 Suze: on your home, saving you $700 a month, which would 228 00:14:47,789 --> 00:14:50,549 Suze: then make things better for you. 229 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:56,109 Suze: However, we are short money here because for you to 230 00:14:56,119 --> 00:15:01,710 Suze: pay off the home of $50,000 you're gonna wipe out 231 00:15:01,719 --> 00:15:05,719 Suze: either your 403 B and there isn't even enough money 232 00:15:05,729 --> 00:15:10,580 Suze: in your regular IRA because remember you take out $50,000 233 00:15:10,590 --> 00:15:15,619 Suze: it's totally taxable to you as ordinary income. So you 234 00:15:15,630 --> 00:15:18,890 Suze: absolutely would not want to do it this year 235 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:25,169 Suze: because you still have income from being a private registered nurse. 236 00:15:25,469 --> 00:15:28,260 Suze: So if you're gonna do something like that, you wait 237 00:15:28,270 --> 00:15:32,830 Suze: until next year when you hardly have any income at all. 238 00:15:33,250 --> 00:15:36,880 Suze: And then if you withdrew that money, it would not 239 00:15:36,890 --> 00:15:40,619 Suze: be that big of an income tax ding. However, 240 00:15:42,210 --> 00:15:47,239 Suze: I have to tell you that if you currently are 241 00:15:47,539 --> 00:15:50,830 Suze: $1760 a month short, 242 00:15:51,809 --> 00:15:54,080 Suze: an annuity isn't going to do it for you. 243 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,869 Suze: Transferring money into a Roth isn't going to do it 244 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,559 Suze: for you on any level. So, what is going to 245 00:16:01,570 --> 00:16:04,380 Suze: do it for you? You're not gonna like this answer, 246 00:16:04,390 --> 00:16:05,859 Suze: but I'm gonna tell it to you. 247 00:16:07,109 --> 00:16:10,969 Suze: You don't have enough money to retire. You just don't. 248 00:16:11,580 --> 00:16:15,690 Suze: And that's the God honest truth because for you to 249 00:16:15,700 --> 00:16:20,669 Suze: have even $1000 a month of income and you've used 250 00:16:20,679 --> 00:16:23,349 Suze: up your retirement account simply to pay off the mortgage 251 00:16:23,359 --> 00:16:26,849 Suze: on your home. Where are you going to get that 252 00:16:26,859 --> 00:16:28,280 Suze: money from? 253 00:16:29,130 --> 00:16:32,229 Suze: So possibilities are, do you need to sell your home? 254 00:16:32,599 --> 00:16:35,969 Suze: Take whatever equity is out of that home and either 255 00:16:35,979 --> 00:16:41,190 Suze: seriously downsize or rent or? I don't know, but you 256 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,789 Suze: need to look at this seriously because your financial situation 257 00:16:45,799 --> 00:16:50,190 Suze: needs a little bit of nursing and nobody is better 258 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,669 Suze: to do that than you. If you can take care 259 00:16:52,679 --> 00:16:56,150 Suze: of people and nurse them back to health, 260 00:16:56,659 --> 00:17:00,200 Suze: you can take care of your finances and nurse it 261 00:17:00,210 --> 00:17:02,270 Suze: back to wealth. 262 00:17:03,390 --> 00:17:03,609 KT: Oh. 263 00:17:05,150 --> 00:17:08,849 KT: Oh, we need to do a talk to nurses and 264 00:17:08,859 --> 00:17:10,900 KT: use that line. That's great. 265 00:17:11,060 --> 00:17:12,449 Suze: We do, do talks to, 266 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,930 KT: I know we love nurses by the way. Ok. Next question. 267 00:17:17,060 --> 00:17:20,089 KT: Simple question from Sharon. Suze, 268 00:17:20,468 --> 00:17:24,138 KT: My husband is 70. I am 68. Is there any 269 00:17:24,148 --> 00:17:28,838 KT: point in contributing or converting to a Roth at this 270 00:17:28,848 --> 00:17:30,677 KT: point in their, in their life? 271 00:17:30,698 --> 00:17:33,167 Suze: Listen to me and listen to me closely if you're 272 00:17:33,178 --> 00:17:36,879 Suze: still working and you have earned income, you're at least 273 00:17:36,888 --> 00:17:39,438 Suze: three years away from your husband. Having to take RMDs, 274 00:17:40,038 --> 00:17:44,698 Suze: required minimum distributions. I would be contributing every penny I 275 00:17:44,708 --> 00:17:47,548 Suze: could to a Roth assuming your home is paid off 276 00:17:47,558 --> 00:17:48,568 Suze: and all of that 277 00:17:49,530 --> 00:17:56,550 Suze: if you have IRA money 401k, traditional retirement money and 278 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,729 Suze: depending on your income tax bracket right now and you 279 00:18:00,739 --> 00:18:03,949 Suze: do not need the money, you are not going to 280 00:18:03,959 --> 00:18:09,550 Suze: need to take required minimum distributions at all. Oh, you betcha. 281 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,489 Suze: I would be converting at this point in time. Just 282 00:18:13,500 --> 00:18:17,050 Suze: make sure that you contact your CPA. How much could 283 00:18:17,060 --> 00:18:18,150 Suze: you convert 284 00:18:18,660 --> 00:18:22,930 Suze: to a Roth without you going into a higher income 285 00:18:22,939 --> 00:18:25,560 Suze: tax bracket? You know, KT, 286 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,900 Suze: I've said it once, I'll say it a million times 287 00:18:29,910 --> 00:18:36,579 Suze: there is no investment vehicle. None that is better than 288 00:18:36,589 --> 00:18:41,939 Suze: a Roth IRA, whether it's converting to one, creating one, 289 00:18:41,989 --> 00:18:45,169 Suze: a backdoor Roth knowing how to do it. So, for 290 00:18:45,180 --> 00:18:48,819 Suze: next Thursday, I want you to do me a favor. 291 00:18:49,319 --> 00:18:53,680 Suze: I want to do an entire Ask KT and Suze 292 00:18:53,689 --> 00:19:01,260 Suze: Anything on Roth IRAs, especially for older people who think 293 00:19:01,390 --> 00:19:04,530 Suze: that they shouldn't be doing it as they're getting older, 294 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,260 Suze: especially for the CPAs out there or the accountants out 295 00:19:08,270 --> 00:19:11,819 Suze: there who are advising you not to do them. It 296 00:19:11,829 --> 00:19:13,300 Suze: doesn't make sense. 297 00:19:13,719 --> 00:19:17,139 Suze: That is the worst advice you will ever have in 298 00:19:17,150 --> 00:19:21,800 Suze: your life. Bar. None, please. I am begging you do 299 00:19:21,810 --> 00:19:26,020 Suze: not make the mistake of not investing in a Roth. 300 00:19:26,030 --> 00:19:28,149 Suze: I don't care what your tax bracket is. I don't 301 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:28,939 Suze: care what 302 00:19:29,630 --> 00:19:35,020 Suze: you cannot pass up. The Roth IRAs 401ks 403Bs TSBs 303 00:19:36,069 --> 00:19:39,459 Suze: SEP IRA Roths, all of them. Do you hear me? 304 00:19:39,469 --> 00:19:41,000 Suze: All right, KT, will you do that? 305 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,619 KT: So next Thursday week from today, everybody tune in. Do 306 00:19:45,630 --> 00:19:48,889 KT: not miss it. It's gonna be a good one, especially 307 00:19:48,900 --> 00:19:49,800 KT: for me. 308 00:19:50,729 --> 00:19:51,699 KT: Alright, ready. 309 00:19:52,050 --> 00:19:54,670 KT: I like this one a lot. I have a question 310 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,890 KT: about stock dividends. For a long time, you've stated that 311 00:19:58,900 --> 00:20:02,390 KT: it would be wise to buy stocks that pay dividends. 312 00:20:02,849 --> 00:20:06,170 KT: I've done this a lot, but I've recently learned that 313 00:20:06,180 --> 00:20:09,630 KT: once a dividend is announced on the record date, the 314 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,790 KT: cost of the stock goes down by whatever the dividend was. 315 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,329 KT: I'm a little bit confused and I'm having trouble understanding why. 316 00:20:19,339 --> 00:20:20,750 KT: That's a good deal. 317 00:20:21,589 --> 00:20:24,989 KT: It seems to me like it would just be a wash, 318 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:29,530 KT: any information on this would be appreciated. This is from Christie. 319 00:20:30,859 --> 00:20:34,380 Suze: Christie. It is true. Let's say you're about to buy 320 00:20:34,390 --> 00:20:37,709 Suze: a stock and it has a 75 cents or let's 321 00:20:37,719 --> 00:20:41,569 Suze: just say it has a dollar dividend for that quarter. 322 00:20:41,579 --> 00:20:43,489 Suze: That would be a lot because that's $4 a year 323 00:20:43,500 --> 00:20:47,280 Suze: but that's besides the point. So for that quarter, you 324 00:20:47,290 --> 00:20:48,709 Suze: get a dollar 325 00:20:49,180 --> 00:20:53,599 Suze: and let's say the stock is at $20 a share. 326 00:20:54,540 --> 00:20:56,359 Suze: If you buy it 327 00:20:57,189 --> 00:21:01,430 Suze: before it goes ex dividend, that means if you buy 328 00:21:01,439 --> 00:21:01,780 Suze: it 329 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,819 Suze: on the date that it goes ex dividend, what happens 330 00:21:06,829 --> 00:21:10,300 Suze: is they reduce the price of the stock. If it's 331 00:21:10,310 --> 00:21:16,900 Suze: at 20 they reduce it to $19 a share because 332 00:21:16,910 --> 00:21:22,300 Suze: you weren't on record before that. So therefore you shouldn't 333 00:21:22,310 --> 00:21:24,859 Suze: be able to get the dividend, 334 00:21:25,260 --> 00:21:29,550 Suze: but you're able to get it a dollar cheaper. So 335 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,750 Suze: in essence, either way it would be the same. However, 336 00:21:34,599 --> 00:21:39,130 Suze: eventually that stock goes back up to $20 a share 337 00:21:39,140 --> 00:21:42,140 Suze: very shortly after that to tell you the truth. And 338 00:21:42,150 --> 00:21:47,500 Suze: from that point on you get that dollar every quarter. 339 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,859 Suze: So it more than makes up for it 340 00:21:51,489 --> 00:21:54,989 Suze: really, you should just keep doing it and doing it. 341 00:21:55,050 --> 00:21:57,959 Suze: You can do it on the ex dividend date, which 342 00:21:57,969 --> 00:22:01,270 Suze: means if you buy it on that date, you don't 343 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,119 Suze: get the dividend, but you get to buy the stock, 344 00:22:05,189 --> 00:22:09,709 Suze: whatever the price is, minus that dividend payment. Yeah. 345 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,790 KT: So the ex dividend is the day they pay the dividend. 346 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,389 Suze: And so if you bought it on that date, 347 00:22:16,959 --> 00:22:20,699 Suze: you don't qualify for the dividend because otherwise you would 348 00:22:20,709 --> 00:22:23,978 Suze: be getting the dividend. And let's say in this case, 349 00:22:23,989 --> 00:22:27,260 Suze: a dollar less per share, you have to buy it 350 00:22:27,270 --> 00:22:31,069 Suze: before the ex dividend date. So that you can be 351 00:22:31,079 --> 00:22:35,189 Suze: on record. So when they pay the dividend, you get 352 00:22:35,199 --> 00:22:39,479 Suze: the dividend, but you don't get both. But really if 353 00:22:39,489 --> 00:22:43,750 Suze: you think about it, it's identical. But from that point 354 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,569 Suze: on every time you own the stock, 355 00:22:47,109 --> 00:22:50,180 Suze: you get the dividend, no matter what 356 00:22:51,069 --> 00:22:53,219 KT: Does it go down, every time a dividend is paid? 357 00:22:56,150 --> 00:22:59,489 Suze: You get the dividend and it goes down every time 358 00:22:59,619 --> 00:23:03,849 Suze: the stock goes ex dividend. But every time you're getting 359 00:23:03,859 --> 00:23:11,170 Suze: that dividend and you're reinvesting that dividend hopefully into that stock, 360 00:23:11,180 --> 00:23:15,770 Suze: it works out. Trust me. Right. But there's nothing greater 361 00:23:16,099 --> 00:23:20,719 Suze: than having dividends because the majority of your returns, KT, 362 00:23:20,969 --> 00:23:24,889 Suze: of a stock over a long period of time can 363 00:23:24,900 --> 00:23:26,819 Suze: be attributed to dividends. 364 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,239 KT: So next one, Suze, would you approve to invest at 365 00:23:31,250 --> 00:23:36,619 KT: least $50,000 in a multifamily house ready for this? With 366 00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:42,130 KT: about 100 and 28 units in Houston, Texas. It doesn't 367 00:23:42,140 --> 00:23:45,550 KT: sound like multifamily. Sounds like an apartment building. I was 368 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,129 KT: told that I will be able to double my investment 369 00:23:48,140 --> 00:23:49,300 KT: in five years. I, 370 00:23:50,140 --> 00:23:50,959 Suze: No, you're denied. 371 00:23:51,670 --> 00:23:55,430 Suze: anybody who tells you that you're going to double your 372 00:23:55,439 --> 00:24:01,208 Suze: money in five years in real estate, especially in Texas 373 00:24:01,349 --> 00:24:05,150 Suze: where they've had a lot of flooding, all of that stuff, 374 00:24:05,339 --> 00:24:08,229 Suze: all of that. Who knows what the cost of insurance 375 00:24:08,239 --> 00:24:10,849 Suze: is gonna go to or if they're even going to 376 00:24:10,859 --> 00:24:14,780 Suze: insure anymore in Houston, you never know they stopped insuring 377 00:24:14,790 --> 00:24:17,089 Suze: in Florida in California. No, 378 00:24:17,199 --> 00:24:20,819 Suze: if somebody says that and you're taking somebody else's word 379 00:24:20,829 --> 00:24:22,489 Suze: for it. I won't touch it with a 10 ft 380 00:24:22,500 --> 00:24:26,390 Suze: poll if you yourself knew it, if you did the numbers, 381 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,619 Suze: if you understood it. Ok. But not because somebody else 382 00:24:30,630 --> 00:24:32,010 Suze: told you it all right. 383 00:24:32,319 --> 00:24:36,129 KT: Ok. This is from Erica. Hi, Suze and KT. I 384 00:24:36,140 --> 00:24:39,170 KT: have a question about special needs trust. I have a 385 00:24:39,180 --> 00:24:41,869 KT: seven year old daughter and a special needs, 10 year 386 00:24:41,900 --> 00:24:42,619 KT: old son. 387 00:24:42,869 --> 00:24:46,949 KT: Do I need a special needs trust and a separate 388 00:24:46,959 --> 00:24:49,489 KT: revocable living trust for both of them? 389 00:24:49,729 --> 00:24:54,130 Suze: Yes. No, not for both of them. What you need 390 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:59,369 Suze: is a special needs trust only for your special needs child. 391 00:24:59,780 --> 00:25:04,169 Suze: You need a living revocable trust for your daughter. 392 00:25:04,949 --> 00:25:08,708 Suze: However, if you were to die while she still a minor, 393 00:25:08,770 --> 00:25:12,119 Suze: then you need to point a successor trustee to take 394 00:25:12,130 --> 00:25:16,770 Suze: care of that money and within that trust, 395 00:25:17,489 --> 00:25:20,579 Suze: you will decide how you get money from there into 396 00:25:20,589 --> 00:25:23,750 Suze: the special needs trust if your son needs it, but 397 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,550 Suze: your son does not need a living revocable trust and 398 00:25:27,719 --> 00:25:32,250 Suze: a special needs trust. He only needs a special needs trust. 399 00:25:32,260 --> 00:25:35,540 Suze: Otherwise he will be disqualified from SSI. 400 00:25:36,619 --> 00:25:38,599 KT: So next is from Steven 401 00:25:39,060 --> 00:25:43,000 KT: Good morning Suze. Thank you for your great podcast. Do 402 00:25:43,010 --> 00:25:47,899 KT: you still recommend dollar cost averaging into 2030 year bonds 403 00:25:48,089 --> 00:25:52,550 KT: in addition to dividend paying stocks in my IRAs. I 404 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,500 KT: noticed the bond rates are increasing. 405 00:25:54,530 --> 00:25:58,469 Suze: I do but do a 30 year versus a 20. 406 00:25:58,479 --> 00:26:02,040 Suze: And why is that? Because 20 year bonds are not 407 00:26:02,050 --> 00:26:05,810 Suze: very liquid, believe it or not, which is why they 408 00:26:05,819 --> 00:26:08,630 Suze: pay you a little bit higher interest rate. 409 00:26:09,010 --> 00:26:14,520 Suze: 30 year bonds are about 4.7%. Right now. I think 410 00:26:14,530 --> 00:26:19,349 Suze: it is possible that they could go to 5% which 411 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,930 Suze: is why I've said little by little. So you might 412 00:26:23,939 --> 00:26:26,079 Suze: want to put a little into a 30 year bond 413 00:26:26,089 --> 00:26:29,920 Suze: now and then if it goes up a little bit more, 414 00:26:29,930 --> 00:26:34,260 Suze: once it hits around 5% maybe that will be when 415 00:26:34,270 --> 00:26:36,229 Suze: you go in with the rest of it. 416 00:26:37,069 --> 00:26:41,910 Suze: I absolutely still recommend that without a shadow of a doubt. 417 00:26:42,109 --> 00:26:46,170 Suze: And as always for real growth, dividend paying stocks is 418 00:26:46,180 --> 00:26:49,390 Suze: a great way to go. All right, KT, do you 419 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,060 Suze: know what time it is time for? 420 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,219 KT: Can I afford it Quizzy? And I'm ready. 421 00:26:54,619 --> 00:26:56,969 Suze: And she is ready. You got your little Suze notebook? 422 00:26:56,979 --> 00:27:00,630 KT: I have a big fat Suze notebook. Everybody. I've been 423 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,089 KT: taking notes for 23 years. 424 00:27:03,295 --> 00:27:05,474 Suze: You know what I've been doing for 23 years? 425 00:27:05,484 --> 00:27:10,405 KT: Saving my notes. Every single scrap of paper... we have 426 00:27:10,415 --> 00:27:13,114 KT: to explain. I make little post it notes when I 427 00:27:13,125 --> 00:27:15,925 KT: leave or if I'm going somewhere and I leave them 428 00:27:15,935 --> 00:27:18,425 KT: around for her to find it's like a game we 429 00:27:18,435 --> 00:27:19,614 KT: have and she saves them. 430 00:27:19,625 --> 00:27:23,734 KT: All right, for 23 years. I have saved every single 431 00:27:23,744 --> 00:27:24,353 KT: note 432 00:27:24,689 --> 00:27:29,869 Suze: letter, everything she has ever written for me. Anyway, this 433 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,729 Suze: is the, can I afford it for everybody. Not just KT, 434 00:27:33,959 --> 00:27:37,000 Suze: this is where I want you to take notes on. 435 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,949 Suze: Can this person afford what she wants to buy? Because 436 00:27:40,959 --> 00:27:44,640 Suze: if you can figure it out for other people, guess what? 437 00:27:44,719 --> 00:27:47,930 Suze: You can figure it out for yourself. So get ready 438 00:27:47,939 --> 00:27:49,389 Suze: to write this down. 439 00:27:49,910 --> 00:27:52,979 Suze: We have a woman by the name of Laurie. She 440 00:27:52,989 --> 00:27:56,929 Suze: is 66 years of age and she is in good health. 441 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,639 Suze: She currently owns a home outright that her deceased husband 442 00:28:01,650 --> 00:28:06,419 Suze: left for her. And it's a home on 30 acres. 443 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,449 Suze: She actually only lives on two of the acres and 444 00:28:10,459 --> 00:28:13,739 Suze: leases out the other 28 to a neighbor and she 445 00:28:13,750 --> 00:28:16,569 Suze: has lived there for 30 years. 446 00:28:17,270 --> 00:28:21,010 Suze: She is afraid that as she gets older, she will 447 00:28:21,020 --> 00:28:23,489 Suze: not be able to continue to live in the house. 448 00:28:23,500 --> 00:28:25,129 Suze: So what does she want to do? 449 00:28:25,790 --> 00:28:32,729 Suze: She wants to buy a condo for $300,000. Now, 450 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:42,140 Suze: her house is currently worth with the land 550 to $650,000. 451 00:28:42,949 --> 00:28:45,949 Suze: That's good because if she sold it, she could buy 452 00:28:45,959 --> 00:28:48,469 Suze: the condo, however, she doesn't want to wait to sell it. 453 00:28:48,989 --> 00:28:53,150 Suze: She wants to buy the condo right here and right 454 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,540 Suze: now because she's afraid that if she doesn't buy it 455 00:28:57,550 --> 00:28:58,300 Suze: right now 456 00:28:59,119 --> 00:29:01,979 Suze: that it's gonna be sold and it won't be there 457 00:29:01,989 --> 00:29:06,650 Suze: for her. So can she afford it or not? 458 00:29:06,660 --> 00:29:08,119 KT: Show me the money, Suze. 459 00:29:08,130 --> 00:29:12,030 Suze: All right. I, oh, that was good, KT. I used 460 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,699 Suze: to love to say that. So show me the money. 461 00:29:14,959 --> 00:29:22,199 Suze: Her income is comprised of va benefits of about $1612 462 00:29:22,209 --> 00:29:26,270 Suze: a month, as well as Social security Survivor benefits of 463 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,969 Suze: $1628 a month 464 00:29:29,329 --> 00:29:33,119 Suze: and two part time jobs where she makes $2000 a 465 00:29:33,130 --> 00:29:40,839 Suze: month for a total of $5240 a month. That's her income. 466 00:29:41,199 --> 00:29:47,319 Suze: Let's talk for a second. However, about her expenses, Laurie 467 00:29:47,329 --> 00:29:53,260 Suze: says that her current monthly expenses are only utilities and insurance, 468 00:29:53,270 --> 00:29:56,869 Suze: which are $623 a month. 469 00:29:57,709 --> 00:30:01,229 Suze: Now, Laurie also has a little credit card debt, 470 00:30:02,060 --> 00:30:07,089 Suze: $3500 for hearing aids that she bought at 0%. So 471 00:30:07,099 --> 00:30:12,079 Suze: she pays an additional $475 on that debt as well. 472 00:30:12,369 --> 00:30:16,069 Suze: So Laurie is telling me that her total monthly expenses 473 00:30:16,079 --> 00:30:19,630 Suze: are only 1000 98 at this time. 474 00:30:20,170 --> 00:30:25,040 Suze: Laurie, let's get real. You have gasoline, you have food, 475 00:30:25,050 --> 00:30:28,790 Suze: you have entertainment, you have maintenance, you have all kinds 476 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,400 Suze: of everything. So how much should we add to that? Really, KT. 477 00:30:33,949 --> 00:30:38,819 Suze: another 2000 a month. Not no, but you think that's conservative. 478 00:30:38,959 --> 00:30:41,609 KT: Make it an even 1800 let's say 1800 a month. 479 00:30:41,619 --> 00:30:45,729 Suze: All right. So, so 1800 to 2000 a month. But 480 00:30:45,739 --> 00:30:50,739 Suze: if that's true, then Laurie's expenses, let's just say are 481 00:30:50,750 --> 00:30:55,839 Suze: $3000 a month for everything. Going to the dentist, going here, 482 00:30:55,849 --> 00:30:59,209 Suze: going there, it's got average that giving gifts to people, 483 00:30:59,219 --> 00:30:59,969 Suze: all of that. 484 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,099 Suze: So I want you all to think about this two things. 485 00:31:04,439 --> 00:31:11,380 Suze: Laurie's income is how much $5240 a month. Her expenses 486 00:31:11,390 --> 00:31:13,780 Suze: are $3000 a month, 487 00:31:14,089 --> 00:31:24,079 Suze: which leaves $2240 a month to live on. If Laurie 488 00:31:24,089 --> 00:31:27,949 Suze: gets ill and can't work those two part time jobs. 489 00:31:27,959 --> 00:31:32,520 Suze: That's an additional $2000 right now. That goes away. That 490 00:31:32,530 --> 00:31:39,160 Suze: leaves you Laurie with $240 a month of income, but ok, 491 00:31:39,819 --> 00:31:44,439 Suze: not so bad because you also have money in retirement 492 00:31:44,449 --> 00:31:49,079 Suze: accounts that can generate income for you. 493 00:31:49,709 --> 00:31:55,020 Suze: Her assets are $240,000 in a 401k. That's pre tax 494 00:31:55,030 --> 00:32:01,199 Suze: everybody $75,000 between an IRA and a Roth. So some 495 00:32:01,209 --> 00:32:08,069 Suze: of that is also pre-tax $10,000 in stocks and $45,000 496 00:32:08,079 --> 00:32:14,089 Suze: in checking and savings. So all together with all of that, 497 00:32:14,770 --> 00:32:23,989 Suze: that comes to approximately $370,000 in investments in cash that 498 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:24,790 Suze: she has. 499 00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:30,079 Suze: Here's the thing. However, are you all following me? All right, 500 00:32:30,989 --> 00:32:34,810 Suze: even though she has good credit, KT, her bank is 501 00:32:34,819 --> 00:32:40,839 Suze: only willing to give her $170,000 loan on the condo. 502 00:32:41,209 --> 00:32:49,109 Suze: They also want an additional $18,700 in closing cost or 503 00:32:49,119 --> 00:32:53,160 Suze: whatever that money is for. They want the additional 11% 504 00:32:53,170 --> 00:32:55,130 Suze: of $170,000. 505 00:32:56,209 --> 00:33:03,699 Suze: That means she also has to come up with $130,000 506 00:33:04,489 --> 00:33:06,949 Suze: to be able to buy the condo 507 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:15,010 Suze: because the condo is $300,000. Again, her intention is to 508 00:33:15,020 --> 00:33:17,089 Suze: pay off the loan in full. As soon as the 509 00:33:17,099 --> 00:33:18,640 Suze: house is sold, 510 00:33:19,380 --> 00:33:25,109 Suze: the HOA fees right now on the condo are $125 511 00:33:25,119 --> 00:33:25,790 Suze: a month. 512 00:33:26,530 --> 00:33:29,750 Suze: But remember, and she doesn't include it. She will also 513 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:34,430 Suze: have condo insurance and other things that are in there. 514 00:33:34,439 --> 00:33:39,510 Suze: So if we added that to her monthly expenses, now 515 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:46,430 Suze: we're getting close. However, the $170,000 loan 516 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,479 Suze: at about 7.75% interest because that is the going interest 517 00:33:52,489 --> 00:33:55,459 Suze: rates right now on 30 year mortgages 518 00:33:56,339 --> 00:34:04,829 Suze: come to approximately $1454 a month a month. So if 519 00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:12,759 Suze: we add that $1454 to the $3000 that are currently 520 00:34:12,770 --> 00:34:21,679 Suze: her monthly expenses plus the $125 for the condo association fees. 521 00:34:22,389 --> 00:34:24,080 Suze: I don't know KT, 522 00:34:24,580 --> 00:34:30,590 Suze: that brings us to almost like 45 $4600 a month 523 00:34:31,370 --> 00:34:38,189 Suze: of expenses. And right now she's only bringing in about 5000. 524 00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:42,370 KT: Ok. So the big question, can she afford it? 525 00:34:42,379 --> 00:34:46,020 Suze: Can she afford it? My question to you, Laurie is 526 00:34:46,030 --> 00:34:53,790 Suze: and you to KT where is she going to get the $130,000 from? 527 00:34:56,149 --> 00:34:59,709 KT: You want my answer now. All right. She can't afford it, 528 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,040 KT: Suze because she has to sell the house. First. In 529 00:35:03,050 --> 00:35:07,359 KT: other words, Laurie, you can't, if you cash all your 530 00:35:07,370 --> 00:35:11,129 KT: stuff in and your investments and your pay taxes, you're 531 00:35:11,139 --> 00:35:14,520 KT: gonna wipe yourself out and your life. I just want 532 00:35:14,540 --> 00:35:17,889 KT: to say she's at high risk because she hasn't yet 533 00:35:17,899 --> 00:35:20,870 KT: sold the house. And what about those, what ifs, what 534 00:35:20,879 --> 00:35:21,949 KT: about those storms? 535 00:35:22,219 --> 00:35:25,060 KT: What about all kinds of things? What about a twister 536 00:35:25,070 --> 00:35:26,870 KT: coming and taking that roof? 537 00:35:26,879 --> 00:35:30,199 Suze: Right. But here's the thing. So do you approve her 538 00:35:30,209 --> 00:35:31,319 Suze: or deny her? 539 00:35:31,330 --> 00:35:33,850 KT: I have to deny her because she, you have to 540 00:35:33,860 --> 00:35:36,639 KT: sell the house first. Then you can do all of this. 541 00:35:36,850 --> 00:35:40,550 KT: So you can't just go and buy it with what 542 00:35:40,810 --> 00:35:44,270 KT: you don't want to cash out all of these retirement funds. 543 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,889 Suze: So, here's the thing, Laurie you're asking. I am a 544 00:35:47,899 --> 00:35:51,409 Suze: first time home buyer and I'm nervous. You should be 545 00:35:51,419 --> 00:35:55,189 Suze: nervous and I do not want you to do this 546 00:35:55,459 --> 00:35:57,459 Suze: to just come up. I don't want you to do 547 00:35:57,469 --> 00:36:01,489 Suze: it to come up with the other $130,000. 548 00:36:02,070 --> 00:36:05,589 Suze: Really, Laurie? You would have to because most of your 549 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:10,359 Suze: money is in the 401k, the old one and it's pre-tax, 550 00:36:10,449 --> 00:36:13,760 Suze: you'd have to wipe that clean and after taxes, maybe 551 00:36:13,770 --> 00:36:17,159 Suze: it would give you your 130,000 that won't leave you 552 00:36:17,169 --> 00:36:21,040 Suze: with enough money. If something happened. Number one, number two, 553 00:36:21,580 --> 00:36:25,139 Suze: let's talk about condos for a second. What, what do 554 00:36:25,149 --> 00:36:26,100 Suze: you want to say? KT? 555 00:36:26,110 --> 00:36:29,030 KT: So, Suze and I buy a condo in Florida after 556 00:36:29,209 --> 00:36:33,100 KT: years of both of us having owned and paid for 557 00:36:33,110 --> 00:36:34,989 KT: homes with no mortgages. 558 00:36:35,479 --> 00:36:38,158 KT: And now we go buy this condo and, and we 559 00:36:38,169 --> 00:36:41,509 KT: buy it out. Right. And Suze's big brother said, hey, girls, 560 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,780 KT: don't forget you're buying a condo. You're never going to 561 00:36:44,790 --> 00:36:49,350 KT: be in a situation where those expenses go down. Just remember, 562 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,669 KT: I'm warning you and he's right. 563 00:36:51,679 --> 00:36:57,069 Suze: We've been assessed twice. The expenses we had 564 00:36:57,350 --> 00:37:04,830 Suze: was $14,000. So expenses go up. You have assessments, all 565 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,949 Suze: things that you don't experience in a home that you 566 00:37:07,959 --> 00:37:12,439 Suze: own yourself. Number one and number two, when you buy 567 00:37:12,449 --> 00:37:17,070 Suze: a condo condos do not appreciate as much as homes. 568 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:21,139 Suze: And why is that? You have to know is the 569 00:37:21,149 --> 00:37:25,909 Suze: condo filled the other condos in that unit that you're buying? 570 00:37:26,209 --> 00:37:32,449 Suze: Are they filled with renters or condo owners? Because if 571 00:37:32,459 --> 00:37:37,209 Suze: they're filled with renters that immediately brings the value down. 572 00:37:37,219 --> 00:37:37,989 Suze: Number one, 573 00:37:38,629 --> 00:37:43,479 Suze: number two, you're obviously buying this condo because you want 574 00:37:43,489 --> 00:37:46,479 Suze: to know as you get older, you'll be able to 575 00:37:46,489 --> 00:37:50,279 Suze: stay there and it will be friendly for elderly people. 576 00:37:51,419 --> 00:37:54,739 Suze: I would rather see you do the following. I want 577 00:37:54,750 --> 00:37:59,770 Suze: you to stay in your home right now, period. For 578 00:37:59,780 --> 00:38:04,250 Suze: as long as you possibly can. Laurie you have enough 579 00:38:04,260 --> 00:38:06,870 Suze: money that if you needed somebody to help you to 580 00:38:06,879 --> 00:38:11,049 Suze: mow the lawn or do certain things, just hire somebody 581 00:38:11,060 --> 00:38:13,330 Suze: to come in far cheaper. 582 00:38:14,169 --> 00:38:17,929 Suze: But there will possibly come a time when you really 583 00:38:17,939 --> 00:38:21,479 Suze: do need to sell it and you need to sell 584 00:38:21,489 --> 00:38:25,469 Suze: it to move somewhere. Most likely where you can be 585 00:38:25,479 --> 00:38:29,969 Suze: taken care of, or there's facilities for you, like an 586 00:38:29,979 --> 00:38:36,029 Suze: independent living facility that also has assisted living there and 587 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,169 Suze: other things. 588 00:38:37,179 --> 00:38:39,149 KT: And they're so nice these days. 589 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:39,610 Suze: So nice 590 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,080 Suze: because I don't want to see you buy a condo 591 00:38:45,090 --> 00:38:47,909 Suze: right now at the sky high interest rates that we 592 00:38:47,919 --> 00:38:52,300 Suze: have move in. Maybe not like it because your neighbors 593 00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:55,030 Suze: upstairs have kids or whatever and they're running all over 594 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,330 Suze: the place and you can hear it. It's not like 595 00:38:58,340 --> 00:39:02,080 Suze: a single family home. So if that happened and you 596 00:39:02,090 --> 00:39:04,989 Suze: moved and you got older and you needed help, you'd 597 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,409 Suze: have to sell it again and do 598 00:39:07,929 --> 00:39:11,270 Suze: what I'm suggesting going into a place that will help 599 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,709 Suze: you and take care of. You don't take the intermediate 600 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:19,179 Suze: step of buying a condo. Stay in your home. Have 601 00:39:19,189 --> 00:39:22,709 Suze: a great time. Fix it up a little bit if 602 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,399 Suze: you need to, you have the money to do so 603 00:39:25,679 --> 00:39:30,439 Suze: and have a great life, but you are denied. My 604 00:39:30,449 --> 00:39:33,899 Suze: dear friend, do not buy the condo. 605 00:39:34,510 --> 00:39:39,790 Suze: And one thing before we sign off everybody, Laurie, I 606 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,000 Suze: know you think that this condo won't be there, but 607 00:39:44,010 --> 00:39:46,689 Suze: I got news for you. There will always be another 608 00:39:46,699 --> 00:39:50,409 Suze: condo that you can buy. So the rules, you all 609 00:39:50,419 --> 00:39:52,649 Suze: need to live your life by. 610 00:39:53,169 --> 00:39:58,459 Suze: You sell before you buy, you do not buy and 611 00:39:58,469 --> 00:40:02,129 Suze: then hopefully want to sell because you never know when 612 00:40:02,139 --> 00:40:05,040 Suze: you won't be able to. And now you are stuck 613 00:40:05,050 --> 00:40:10,679 Suze: with two places. All right, everybody. So Suze School is 614 00:40:10,689 --> 00:40:12,219 Suze: coming up on Sunday. 615 00:40:12,830 --> 00:40:14,169 Suze: Do you know what that's going to do? What I'm 616 00:40:14,179 --> 00:40:15,408 Suze: going to do on Suze School? 617 00:40:15,419 --> 00:40:16,409 KT: What are you going to do? 618 00:40:16,419 --> 00:40:19,479 Suze: I don't know either, but I'll have to figure it out. 619 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,800 Suze: But really, there's only one thing that we want you 620 00:40:22,810 --> 00:40:24,750 Suze: to remember when it comes to your money. And what 621 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:25,929 Suze: is that? My love, 622 00:40:25,939 --> 00:40:29,810 KT: It's people first, then money and things. 623 00:40:29,879 --> 00:40:33,600 Suze: And if you do that, what's going to happen? You 624 00:40:33,610 --> 00:40:36,370 Suze: will be unstoppable.