1 00:00:35,740 --> 00:00:40,830 KT: Okay everybody. It's September 1st and it's KT here and 2 00:00:40,830 --> 00:00:44,770 KT: I bet you all want to know how Suze is recovering. Well, 3 00:00:44,770 --> 00:00:49,060 KT: guess what? She's here. She's here and we're going to 4 00:00:49,060 --> 00:00:53,730 KT: sing for you. (Sings) See you in September... 5 00:00:53,745 --> 00:00:55,105 Suze: remember 6 00:00:56,255 --> 00:00:59,365 KT: we always do that. That's like my favorite song of 7 00:00:59,365 --> 00:01:00,235 KT: all time. 8 00:01:00,645 --> 00:01:04,665 Suze: So that was an easy surgery everybody. So just a little story... 9 00:01:04,845 --> 00:01:07,415 KT: Suze is like a trooper but I have to let her 10 00:01:07,425 --> 00:01:10,865 KT: not overdo it. So I'm keeping this podcast a little 11 00:01:10,865 --> 00:01:13,675 KT: bit short. I hope she doesn't go on and on 12 00:01:13,675 --> 00:01:16,065 KT: and on because I want her to rest. But 13 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,680 KT: we want to thank everyone at Cleveland clinic for doing 14 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,640 KT: such a fabulous job. What a great group of people. 15 00:01:23,650 --> 00:01:27,990 KT: So uneventful. I can't begin to tell you. So here 16 00:01:27,990 --> 00:01:31,510 KT: we go. Our first question is from Vai, 17 00:01:32,150 --> 00:01:36,650 KT: I have put money in a CD-account for my kids. Suze, 18 00:01:36,900 --> 00:01:41,509 KT: the rate is 2.10% for 24 months. 19 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:47,880 KT: The penalty to withdraw right now is about $16. Should 20 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,810 KT: I withdraw the money and put it into I bonds? 21 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:53,410 KT: Mm Hmm. 22 00:01:53,420 --> 00:01:56,610 Suze: So here's the scoop girlfriend. If you don't need this 23 00:01:56,610 --> 00:02:00,990 Suze: money for at least five years or longer, I would 24 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,700 Suze: absolutely take a $16 25 00:02:02,945 --> 00:02:07,395 Suze: penalty right now and switch to the I bonds for 26 00:02:07,395 --> 00:02:10,075 Suze: the kids. You can open one up as a minor 27 00:02:10,075 --> 00:02:12,415 Suze: account for them. You can do that in your own 28 00:02:12,425 --> 00:02:15,505 Suze: Treasury direct dot gov account because I think that the 29 00:02:15,514 --> 00:02:18,555 Suze: interest rate is going to be pretty good for next 30 00:02:18,555 --> 00:02:23,045 Suze: few years. Alright. However, if you need the money sooner 31 00:02:23,044 --> 00:02:24,000 Suze: than that, 32 00:02:24,430 --> 00:02:26,560 Suze: I would leave it where it is right now. 33 00:02:26,610 --> 00:02:30,490 KT: This is next question Suze, is from Georgiana. What a 34 00:02:30,490 --> 00:02:35,109 KT: pretty name. Georgiana. Dear Suze. I'm divorced. I'm a single 35 00:02:35,110 --> 00:02:39,820 KT: parent with full custody of my teenage daughter. I currently 36 00:02:39,820 --> 00:02:44,460 KT: have a term life insurance policy for 200,000 that I 37 00:02:44,460 --> 00:02:50,290 KT: opened in 2017 with my daughter as the sole beneficiary. 38 00:02:50,730 --> 00:02:53,120 KT: Now I don't want you to get riled up because 39 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,839 KT: you're in recovery, Suze. But ready... I no longer work. 40 00:02:56,850 --> 00:03:01,480 KT: I'm on a fixed income due to a non curable 41 00:03:01,490 --> 00:03:08,160 KT: non terminal health condition. Recently the insurance company called to 42 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:14,840 KT: talk me into converting into a whole life policy for 75,000. 43 00:03:15,139 --> 00:03:23,440 KT: My premium would increase ready from $30 to $132 a month. 44 00:03:23,620 --> 00:03:27,670 KT: I've listened to your podcast and only recall you speaking 45 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,790 KT: about term life insurance. What is your opinion of whole 46 00:03:31,790 --> 00:03:35,110 KT: life for someone in my situation? 47 00:03:36,130 --> 00:03:39,090 KT: I know you should see your face. I'm supposed to 48 00:03:39,090 --> 00:03:39,970 KT: keep her calm. 49 00:03:39,980 --> 00:03:44,520 Suze: Here's what upsets me. Georgiana. You say you listened to 50 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,520 Suze: the podcast. How can you have listened to this podcast 51 00:03:48,530 --> 00:03:52,450 Suze: and not have listened to all of these podcasts 52 00:03:52,980 --> 00:03:56,350 Suze: and know how much I seriously hate whole life insurance. 53 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:03,630 Suze: What gives this away is in your email, you say 54 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:08,220 Suze: that they called you? They went and talked to you 55 00:04:08,230 --> 00:04:12,500 Suze: to talk you into converting into a whole life insurance 56 00:04:12,500 --> 00:04:16,470 Suze: policy now. Why do you think that they would do that. 57 00:04:17,020 --> 00:04:17,710 Suze: Why? 58 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:23,260 Suze: It's not like you went looking for something. They came 59 00:04:23,260 --> 00:04:26,520 Suze: to you saying, I know this is what you should 60 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,299 Suze: do and on and on and on. I think if 61 00:04:30,300 --> 00:04:32,320 Suze: you are still insurable 62 00:04:32,710 --> 00:04:36,029 Suze: and I'm not sure you are because you say that 63 00:04:36,029 --> 00:04:39,960 Suze: you're not working, you're on a fixed income because you don't, 64 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,310 Suze: you have something that can't be cured even though it's 65 00:04:42,310 --> 00:04:45,490 Suze: not going to really kill you. So I don't know 66 00:04:45,490 --> 00:04:49,529 Suze: if you're insurable or not. I also don't know how 67 00:04:49,540 --> 00:04:54,320 Suze: old your daughter is but a term life insurance policy 68 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,000 Suze: and I also don't know how long the life insurance 69 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,870 Suze: policy is good for. 70 00:04:59,029 --> 00:05:01,779 Suze: Right? So I get that she's a teenager. But is 71 00:05:01,779 --> 00:05:03,859 Suze: she 17 or is she... 72 00:05:03,870 --> 00:05:05,810 KT: 13. 73 00:05:05,820 --> 00:05:11,440 Suze: Right. Because really a child only needs life insurance usually 74 00:05:11,450 --> 00:05:15,320 Suze: up until the age of about 23, 25 to when 75 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,860 Suze: they could be on their own. What good is $75,000 76 00:05:19,860 --> 00:05:21,370 Suze: going to do for her? 77 00:05:22,260 --> 00:05:25,930 Suze: Right. If you die versus $200,000. So no, I would 78 00:05:25,930 --> 00:05:29,719 Suze: not be doing this. If anything, what I would be 79 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,140 Suze: doing is to see unless you have a 20 year 80 00:05:33,150 --> 00:05:39,640 Suze: level term policy which would bring you to 2037 when 81 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,710 Suze: your daughter would be old enough. I would see if 82 00:05:42,710 --> 00:05:46,560 Suze: I could extend my term of the policy that I 83 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,529 Suze: already have but I would not be doing a whole 84 00:05:49,540 --> 00:05:50,780 Suze: life policy 85 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,600 Suze: and listen all you need to do is go on 86 00:05:54,610 --> 00:05:57,910 Suze: the Women and Money community app. And on the wall 87 00:05:57,910 --> 00:06:02,460 Suze: there you'll see you can search past podcasts 88 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:07,390 Suze: Just put in the words whole life and you'll see. 89 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:12,150 Suze: You'll see quite a few podcasts. All right. Just now. 90 00:06:12,150 --> 00:06:16,600 Suze: I hate in most circumstances, whole life insurance and one 91 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,200 Suze: last thing you're on a fixed income and she's on 92 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:26,330 Suze: a fixed income. But $100 more a month is $1,200 93 00:06:26,330 --> 00:06:30,110 Suze: more a year over 30 or 40 years. That could 94 00:06:30,110 --> 00:06:31,860 Suze: be hundreds of thousands of dollars. 95 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:32,200 Suze: The 96 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,430 KT: broker's making money not you. 97 00:06:36,020 --> 00:06:36,470 Suze: The broker is making you broker. 98 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,750 KT: This is from Debbie. This is another concern. Mom. We 99 00:06:39,750 --> 00:06:41,779 KT: have lots of concern. Mommy's here. 100 00:06:41,790 --> 00:06:43,830 Suze: The last podcast was all about Dads. 101 00:06:43,830 --> 00:06:46,480 KT: I know well, listen to this. Hi Suze and KT, 102 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,340 KT: my daughter opened a V. T. I with Vanguard. Are 103 00:06:50,339 --> 00:06:53,630 KT: they a discount broker? This is actually kind of sweet. 104 00:06:53,660 --> 00:06:59,469 KT: You suggested Fidelity and TD Ameritrade on Thursdays podcast. But 105 00:06:59,470 --> 00:07:00,880 KT: not Vanguard. 106 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,830 KT: Should she transfer her money to? One of those mentioned, 107 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:09,330 KT: she's only 42 and has years before retirement. 108 00:07:09,470 --> 00:07:13,720 Suze: There's absolutely nothing wrong with Vanguard. I love Vanguard funds. 109 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:18,290 Suze: I love Vanguard brokerage firm. The whole thing. However, 110 00:07:18,490 --> 00:07:22,250 Suze: the reason that I normally don't say anything about them, 111 00:07:22,270 --> 00:07:27,620 Suze: but I tout their fund all over the place is because 112 00:07:27,690 --> 00:07:31,410 Suze: as far as I know as of last month, Vanguard 113 00:07:31,410 --> 00:07:34,030 Suze: doesn't offer slices of stock 114 00:07:34,730 --> 00:07:38,540 Suze: and I like Fidelity and Schwab when you can buy 115 00:07:38,550 --> 00:07:42,890 Suze: a slice You want to buy maybe a slice of Tesla. 116 00:07:42,890 --> 00:07:45,810 Suze: You like Tesla, but you don't have hundreds of dollars 117 00:07:45,810 --> 00:07:48,740 Suze: a share right to do that. 118 00:07:48,970 --> 00:07:51,600 Suze: You know to buy one share. So you could buy 119 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:57,200 Suze: $10 worth of Tesla. You can't do that at Vanguard. However, 120 00:07:57,210 --> 00:08:00,750 Suze: you can't do that at T. D. Ameritrade either. So, 121 00:08:00,750 --> 00:08:03,080 Suze: I don't know why. I don't recommend Vanguard. I'll have 122 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,340 Suze: to maybe add them to my list. But my true 123 00:08:06,350 --> 00:08:11,630 Suze: two favorites are Fidelity and Schwab. Just so you know. 124 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:12,180 Suze: All right. 125 00:08:12,190 --> 00:08:15,610 KT: All right. This is another grandparent. 126 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:20,030 KT: Our grandson is turning one in September. This is from Kathy. 127 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,010 KT: What would be the best gift for his future. Should 128 00:08:24,010 --> 00:08:27,400 KT: we start a Series I bonds we were thinking of 129 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:32,400 KT: starting with $1000 and giving a monetary gift each year 130 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,920 KT: rather than toys. You're all for that Suze. 131 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,959 Suze: You know, I am for that. But at one year 132 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,080 Suze: of age 133 00:08:42,450 --> 00:08:45,620 Suze: it's also kind of the perfect time to start of 134 00:08:45,620 --> 00:08:51,460 Suze: 5 29 plan because over the next 17 years maybe 135 00:08:51,460 --> 00:08:53,880 Suze: you want this money for him or her to go 136 00:08:53,890 --> 00:08:58,480 Suze: to college. That money will probably grow more in a 137 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:03,690 Suze: 5 29 plan than in a Series I bond. 138 00:09:04,100 --> 00:09:08,540 Suze: Because as interest rates come down here in the future. 139 00:09:08,550 --> 00:09:12,250 Suze: Three years from now. Four years from now. I bonds 140 00:09:12,250 --> 00:09:17,880 Suze: might only be paying 2%, 1%, 3%. So then you 141 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,110 Suze: would be better off in a 529 plan. 142 00:09:21,770 --> 00:09:25,770 Suze: So it's difficult to know but you might want to 143 00:09:25,770 --> 00:09:30,700 Suze: do $500 right now in a series I bonds $500 144 00:09:30,710 --> 00:09:35,960 Suze: in a 529 plan or do only this year in 145 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,430 Suze: a series I bond maybe next year and then start 146 00:09:39,429 --> 00:09:43,880 Suze: doing that $1000 a year in 529 plans. And as 147 00:09:43,890 --> 00:09:47,040 Suze: interest rates come down maybe you can then take the 148 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,120 Suze: money out and put it all into a 5 29 plan. 149 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:51,660 KT: I have a question. 150 00:09:51,980 --> 00:09:52,560 KT: What 151 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,320 KT: if he doesn't want to go to college? 152 00:09:55,270 --> 00:09:58,100 Suze: Well if he doesn't want to go to college then 153 00:09:58,110 --> 00:10:02,230 Suze: obviously any money that they put into a 529 plan, 154 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,070 Suze: they can take out what they put in. But anything 155 00:10:06,070 --> 00:10:08,910 Suze: that that money earned, they'll have to pay taxes on 156 00:10:08,910 --> 00:10:10,770 Suze: it plus a 10% penalty. 157 00:10:11,770 --> 00:10:14,359 Suze: Right? But it just depends. Right? 158 00:10:15,100 --> 00:10:19,800 KT: You never know. You never know what the future. It was good. 159 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:25,810 KT: It was a diversified answer that for a description. This 160 00:10:25,809 --> 00:10:27,309 KT: is from Michelle, 161 00:10:27,500 --> 00:10:32,120 KT: My partner and I have been together for 27 years. 162 00:10:32,130 --> 00:10:36,709 KT: Where registered domestic partners but not married. Should we set 163 00:10:36,710 --> 00:10:40,750 KT: up individual trust or just have one joint trust? 164 00:10:40,750 --> 00:10:44,950 Suze: No, set up individual trust. Usually a joint trust is 165 00:10:44,950 --> 00:10:48,670 Suze: for people who are married a marital trust. But absolutely. 166 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,150 Suze: Set up individual joint trust. Next 167 00:10:52,150 --> 00:10:54,860 KT: is from Cathy Mac 168 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:00,340 KT: Hello. Should I purchase a warranty for this one's a 169 00:11:00,340 --> 00:11:04,270 KT: great one. I forgot this one I picked because it 170 00:11:04,270 --> 00:11:07,540 KT: pertains to you and me. Should I purchase a warranty 171 00:11:07,540 --> 00:11:13,390 KT: for a used vehicle? It cost over $2,000 for five years. 172 00:11:13,410 --> 00:11:20,720 KT: My vehicle is a 2013 Avalon with 54,000 miles. It 173 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,960 KT: covers all electronics, AC etc. 174 00:11:24,940 --> 00:11:27,750 KT: Thank you. This is from Cathy. Now we don't you 175 00:11:27,750 --> 00:11:30,150 KT: and I have a car that's 10 years old but 176 00:11:30,150 --> 00:11:34,970 KT: it's not used but we don't have warranty anymore. And 177 00:11:34,970 --> 00:11:37,770 KT: you know what, let's tell the story about kevin. 178 00:11:37,780 --> 00:11:42,370 Suze: Yeah. So here's the thing that I've learned about cars 179 00:11:42,370 --> 00:11:47,770 Suze: and boats. It's now seriously, especially boats. It's almost as 180 00:11:47,780 --> 00:11:51,500 Suze: if every part that they put in a boat. An 181 00:11:51,500 --> 00:11:52,890 Suze: electronic part 182 00:11:53,420 --> 00:11:58,650 Suze: absolutely breaks three years to the date of when they 183 00:11:58,650 --> 00:12:01,560 Suze: put it in. So the battery goes in three years, 184 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,520 Suze: The pumps going three years, everything goes in three years. 185 00:12:05,530 --> 00:12:10,410 Suze: I've never seen anything like it. Now. We love our car. 186 00:12:10,420 --> 00:12:13,459 Suze: We have had it now over 10 years. KT. 187 00:12:13,460 --> 00:12:16,400 KT: And about the same mileage 55. 188 00:12:16,420 --> 00:12:20,860 Suze: We have about 50,000 miles on it. But things have 189 00:12:20,860 --> 00:12:22,490 Suze: started to break 190 00:12:22,630 --> 00:12:25,949 Suze: On it and every time we take it in it's 191 00:12:25,950 --> 00:12:30,339 Suze: like 2000 here. 3000 there, KT keeps saying to me, 192 00:12:30,340 --> 00:12:32,690 Suze: why don't we just get a new car because I 193 00:12:32,690 --> 00:12:37,690 Suze: rather spend two or $3,000 or $4,000 once a year 194 00:12:37,700 --> 00:12:40,350 Suze: then get a new car. That's a whole lot more money. 195 00:12:41,390 --> 00:12:45,719 Suze: But wait, but our driver Kevin 196 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:51,620 Suze: was talking to us that he and his husband have, 197 00:12:52,210 --> 00:12:57,720 Suze: both similar cars and they decided to buy a warranty 198 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,870 Suze: on it because it's a little bit older. Sure enough, 199 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,120 Suze: the month after they bought the warranty, 200 00:13:05,580 --> 00:13:09,020 Suze: Their car broke down, it would have been $4700 to 201 00:13:09,020 --> 00:13:13,510 Suze: fix it. And the warranty absolutely save them. So the 202 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,380 Suze: answer to this question for you, Cathy is if you 203 00:13:16,380 --> 00:13:19,400 Suze: are going to keep this car, you're going to keep 204 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:24,200 Suze: it for another five or 10 years. And you know 205 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,630 Suze: exactly what the warranty covers? 206 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,570 Suze: I have to tell you, I would fork out the 207 00:13:29,570 --> 00:13:33,390 Suze: $2,000 for it because over the next five years don't 208 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,590 Suze: be surprised to see many things start to break. 209 00:13:37,590 --> 00:13:41,290 KT: And it's only 54,000 miles. That's the benefit. That's why 210 00:13:41,290 --> 00:13:42,260 KT: she wants to keep it. 211 00:13:42,260 --> 00:13:44,100 Suze: Well, we don't know if she she didn't say she 212 00:13:44,100 --> 00:13:46,690 Suze: wanted to keep it, but if you're going to keep 213 00:13:46,690 --> 00:13:49,429 Suze: it like we have no intention on any level of 214 00:13:49,429 --> 00:13:53,410 Suze: selling our car. You know, I'm fine keeping in another 215 00:13:53,410 --> 00:13:54,430 Suze: 10 years. 216 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,870 Suze: So if you're going to keep your car, get a 217 00:13:57,870 --> 00:14:00,630 Suze: warranty and maybe Katie, we need to look into that. 218 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,210 KT: Yeah, I'm going to do that. It says this next 219 00:14:03,210 --> 00:14:07,440 KT: one is from James. Dear Suze and KT. 220 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,679 KT: I absolutely love. 221 00:14:10,340 --> 00:14:11,429 Suze: What was that? 222 00:14:12,990 --> 00:14:16,329 KT: Because that's how he wrote it. He writes, Dear Suze. And 223 00:14:16,330 --> 00:14:18,990 KT: then in parentheses, he goes, and KT. 224 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,090 Suze: So what she's doing here everybody, she's... 225 00:14:21,090 --> 00:14:22,160 KT: I'm sounding it out. 226 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,850 Suze: She's sounding it and she's like dancing and I'm like, 227 00:14:24,850 --> 00:14:25,840 Suze: what made her dance? 228 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,720 KT: Okay, James. I love that. You included me. Dear Suze 229 00:14:28,730 --> 00:14:30,010 KT: and KT. 230 00:14:30,300 --> 00:14:30,660 Suze: Hi 231 00:14:30,660 --> 00:14:35,840 KT: Suze. I absolutely love your Women and Money podcast. I'm currently 232 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,600 KT: a 34 year old. 233 00:14:37,860 --> 00:14:43,150 KT: I have two traditional non Roth 401 Ks. One from 234 00:14:43,150 --> 00:14:47,390 KT: a former employer with around 80,000 in it. The other 235 00:14:47,390 --> 00:14:51,570 KT: with my current employer with 3000 in it. Both are 236 00:14:51,570 --> 00:14:55,830 KT: through Fidelity. I also have a traditional T. S. P. 237 00:14:55,830 --> 00:15:01,180 KT: 401 with 12,000 in it saved from this period of 238 00:15:01,180 --> 00:15:05,900 KT: active duty. Should I move everything to my current employer? 239 00:15:06,250 --> 00:15:09,540 KT: And does it matter when I do it, will the 240 00:15:09,540 --> 00:15:12,460 KT: market be up down so on and so forth. Thanks 241 00:15:12,460 --> 00:15:14,440 KT: Suze and KT. 242 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,479 Suze: So James you absolutely, i f you wanted to have everything 243 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,790 Suze: in one place you could actually transfer everything to your 244 00:15:23,790 --> 00:15:28,370 Suze: current employer. But you would only do that if and 245 00:15:28,380 --> 00:15:34,340 Suze: only if the investments within the retirement plan at your 246 00:15:34,340 --> 00:15:36,130 Suze: current employers, 247 00:15:36,420 --> 00:15:40,200 Suze: offers investments that you like, They give you the diversity 248 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:45,200 Suze: that you want or better yet. Do you take all 249 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,800 Suze: of that money and do an ira rollover with it 250 00:15:48,810 --> 00:15:53,600 Suze: in one place where you have all the diversity in 251 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,680 Suze: the world. You could buy slices of stock, You could 252 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,950 Suze: buy anything that you want. You could convert little by 253 00:16:00,950 --> 00:16:03,360 Suze: little to a Roth I. R. A. 254 00:16:03,860 --> 00:16:04,220 KT: So 255 00:16:04,220 --> 00:16:07,690 Suze: my preference always is if you have a lot of 256 00:16:07,690 --> 00:16:10,260 Suze: retirement accounts all over the place 257 00:16:11,030 --> 00:16:15,050 Suze: rather than you know putting them all into your employer, 258 00:16:15,050 --> 00:16:20,340 Suze: your current employer's 401k. Or retirement plan That's limited. Why 259 00:16:20,340 --> 00:16:24,710 Suze: not do an ira rollover all in one place? Have 260 00:16:24,710 --> 00:16:28,610 Suze: them there, you're diversified. You can dollar cost average, you 261 00:16:28,610 --> 00:16:31,590 Suze: can convert when you want to to a Roth and 262 00:16:31,590 --> 00:16:32,990 Suze: do it that way. 263 00:16:33,980 --> 00:16:38,130 KT: Suze. This next question is from May and I was 264 00:16:38,130 --> 00:16:42,580 KT: very reluctant to include this in the lineup simply because 265 00:16:42,580 --> 00:16:45,880 KT: it might open a can of worms. But because I 266 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,650 KT: didn't understand what this was about. I thought might as 267 00:16:48,650 --> 00:16:53,100 KT: well educate everyone. Hi Suze and KT. I know you 268 00:16:53,100 --> 00:16:55,850 KT: don't like universal life insurance. 269 00:16:55,860 --> 00:16:58,670 Suze: That is putting it mildly girlfriend. 270 00:16:59,130 --> 00:17:03,850 KT: But my question is, what are your thoughts about investing 271 00:17:03,890 --> 00:17:10,300 KT: in 7702 Indexed Universal life? That's why I picked this 272 00:17:10,300 --> 00:17:13,189 KT: because I have no idea what she's talking about as 273 00:17:13,190 --> 00:17:17,990 KT: a way to diversify your investments and also avoid paying 274 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,590 KT: income taxes in the future when you withdraw your money. 275 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:27,580 KT: So I have no idea everybody what a 7702 is. 276 00:17:27,590 --> 00:17:31,600 KT: And I thought that Suze could enlighten us all right. 277 00:17:31,609 --> 00:17:33,740 Suze: God so 278 00:17:34,830 --> 00:17:38,629 Suze: we all have to be on our toes as time 279 00:17:38,630 --> 00:17:40,800 Suze: goes on because 280 00:17:41,540 --> 00:17:47,260 Suze: advisors or salespeople truthfully more than advisors will always figure 281 00:17:47,260 --> 00:17:52,090 Suze: out a new way to present an old idea. Getting 282 00:17:52,090 --> 00:17:55,910 Suze: you to think that it's a really great thing to do. 283 00:17:56,710 --> 00:18:02,240 Suze: The 7702 is simply an I. R. S. Tax code. 284 00:18:02,250 --> 00:18:05,560 Suze: And it came about a while ago. That's that's about 285 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,410 Suze: cash value life insurance policies and that the cash value 286 00:18:09,410 --> 00:18:12,969 Suze: had to be higher and it's just it's complicated. But 287 00:18:12,970 --> 00:18:17,860 Suze: no matter what it's not something that I want you 288 00:18:17,869 --> 00:18:18,580 Suze: to do. 289 00:18:18,970 --> 00:18:23,460 Suze: The only reason that you can avoid paying income taxes 290 00:18:23,470 --> 00:18:27,810 Suze: in the future on one of these universal life insurance 291 00:18:27,810 --> 00:18:34,609 Suze: policies or index policies or 7702 policies is because when 292 00:18:34,609 --> 00:18:36,429 Suze: you go to take money out 293 00:18:36,990 --> 00:18:40,660 Suze: you take money out as a loan and loans are 294 00:18:40,660 --> 00:18:45,570 Suze: not taxable according to the I. R. S. Now maybe 295 00:18:45,580 --> 00:18:48,050 Suze: they charge you an interest rate on the loan. Maybe 296 00:18:48,050 --> 00:18:51,260 Suze: they credit you the same interest rate but it's a 297 00:18:51,260 --> 00:18:52,160 Suze: loan 298 00:18:52,580 --> 00:18:57,159 Suze: And sometimes these policies can backfire on you as the 299 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,080 Suze: mortality charges increase and Blah Blah Blah Blah. The other 300 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:05,300 Suze: thing is that it's just something that you don't want 301 00:19:05,300 --> 00:19:08,040 Suze: to do. So can we just get this straight? So 302 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,919 Suze: all of you can stop writing in. I am never 303 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,350 Suze: going to tell you that a universal life variable life 304 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:18,050 Suze: or a whole life insurance policy in 99.9% of the 305 00:19:18,050 --> 00:19:20,899 Suze: cases is something that I want you to do. 306 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:25,090 Suze: I'm just not going to do that. So there you go. 307 00:19:25,090 --> 00:19:27,390 Suze: And I don't care what the name of it is. 308 00:19:27,580 --> 00:19:28,119 Suze: There you 309 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:33,280 KT: go. Everybody now we all understand. Stay and steer clear. 310 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,230 KT: See it was the numbers. I was wondering what the 311 00:19:36,230 --> 00:19:41,060 KT: heck is that about? So Suze, we come to the 312 00:19:41,060 --> 00:19:43,920 KT: end of this podcast, we're cutting it a little short. 313 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,070 KT: Everybody she has to rest. But you said you had 314 00:19:47,070 --> 00:19:49,889 KT: a quizzie for me. That was a little bit different. 315 00:19:49,900 --> 00:19:51,320 KT: A conversation quizzie. 316 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:52,460 Suze: I do a... 317 00:19:52,460 --> 00:19:53,950 KT: ...point of view quizzie. 318 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,609 Suze: I wanted to do a little bit different of a 319 00:19:56,609 --> 00:20:00,500 Suze: quizzie today I didn't want to do a yes no 320 00:20:00,500 --> 00:20:03,590 Suze: answer type thing or right or wrong. 321 00:20:04,100 --> 00:20:09,160 Suze: I got an email from somebody that really touched my heart. 322 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:10,190 Suze: Now 323 00:20:10,190 --> 00:20:13,750 Suze: you need to know I personally responded to this person 324 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,060 Suze: so they already have their answer from me but I'm 325 00:20:17,060 --> 00:20:21,290 Suze: always so curious as to how you would answer something 326 00:20:21,290 --> 00:20:28,440 Suze: like this. It's a thought provoking quizzie. A nd hopefully 327 00:20:28,450 --> 00:20:32,710 Suze: it's a it's a learning quizzie for everybody listening 328 00:20:32,950 --> 00:20:38,710 Suze: as to what I look for. When I read an email, right? 329 00:20:39,410 --> 00:20:41,740 Suze: Hello Suze and KT, 330 00:20:42,250 --> 00:20:47,240 Suze: I am 28 years of age. My significant other is 40. 331 00:20:47,350 --> 00:20:52,520 Suze: He was previously married and he has about $100,000 debt 332 00:20:52,530 --> 00:20:58,000 Suze: he incurred. I have no debt. He is planning to 333 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,430 Suze: marry me by next year. 334 00:21:01,020 --> 00:21:04,450 Suze: How do I protect myself from that debt? A little 335 00:21:04,450 --> 00:21:08,640 Suze: background on me. I earned my bachelor's and Master's degree 336 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,500 Suze: in nursing with no debt. Thanks to the military. I 337 00:21:12,500 --> 00:21:17,280 Suze: start my doctorate in nursing in September this month with 338 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,440 Suze: no debt. I paid off my car. I also have 339 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,630 Suze: a T. S. P. That's a retirement plan. Everybody through 340 00:21:24,630 --> 00:21:30,750 Suze: the military a Roth 401k . And a personal Roth I. R. A. 341 00:21:31,190 --> 00:21:34,260 Suze: I have a savings account at Alliant Credit Union. Thanks 342 00:21:34,260 --> 00:21:38,040 Suze: to you. I started investing since I was 20 and 343 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,730 Suze: I made it my mission to not incur debt. I 344 00:21:41,730 --> 00:21:44,160 Suze: want to buy a condo but I want to save 345 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,139 Suze: up so I can at least put 25% down and 346 00:21:48,140 --> 00:21:51,010 Suze: maybe a few years when the market cools off a bit. 347 00:21:51,730 --> 00:21:56,899 Suze: I am worried and afraid to marry someone with that 348 00:21:56,910 --> 00:22:00,590 Suze: much debt. Thank you for everything you do and stay 349 00:22:00,590 --> 00:22:02,110 Suze: safe and healthy. 350 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:09,100 Suze: So KT and everybody, we have a 28 year old here. 351 00:22:09,109 --> 00:22:10,470 KT: Very accomplished, 352 00:22:10,470 --> 00:22:11,670 Suze: very accomplished, 353 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,659 KT: very accomplished and responsible. 354 00:22:14,850 --> 00:22:20,879 Suze: Whose significant other is 40. And also I didn't read it. 355 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,840 Suze: But the significant other also has a child from a 356 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,450 Suze: previous marriage and has $100,000 in debt. 357 00:22:29,730 --> 00:22:32,250 Suze: What should she do? How does she protect herself? 358 00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:36,420 KT: Can I just tell you for me the key buzzword? There's 359 00:22:36,420 --> 00:22:41,679 KT: only one word in there that makes this answer very 360 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,909 KT: easy for me, Suze. And you know what that word 361 00:22:43,910 --> 00:22:50,570 KT: is "afraid." Who the heck talks about marriage? The person 362 00:22:50,570 --> 00:22:53,320 KT: they're in love with, the one you're supposed to want 363 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,630 KT: to spend the rest of your life with and be 364 00:22:55,630 --> 00:22:58,670 KT: afraid it doesn't work. It's oil and water. It does 365 00:22:58,670 --> 00:22:59,720 KT: not work. 366 00:22:59,950 --> 00:23:03,930 KT: Here's what I say. 28 years old. You're about to 367 00:23:03,930 --> 00:23:09,380 KT: start and focus on attaining a master's in nursing this month. 368 00:23:09,390 --> 00:23:15,480 KT: (Suze says: A doctorate). You don't have time to be afraid. Oh my God! 369 00:23:15,490 --> 00:23:19,550 KT: 28 years old. You do not have time my friend 370 00:23:19,550 --> 00:23:23,760 KT: to be afraid and to be worried about getting married 371 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,570 KT: next year to someone that 372 00:23:25,770 --> 00:23:31,980 KT: is already, you know, giving the association. Absolutely. I wouldn't 373 00:23:31,980 --> 00:23:35,710 KT: even say wait till he gets out of debt or 374 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,140 KT: I wouldn't even go there. I would say this is 375 00:23:38,140 --> 00:23:40,439 KT: not the right person for you. 376 00:23:40,450 --> 00:23:40,940 Suze: Alright, 377 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:41,869 Suze: So there is no right 378 00:23:42,690 --> 00:23:46,090 Suze: or wrong to this answer. So you don't get Or 379 00:23:46,090 --> 00:23:48,600 Suze: a Ding Ding Ding. But here's what... 380 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,040 KT: I want her to get a ding ding ding. And 381 00:23:51,050 --> 00:23:52,379 KT: personally Suze. 382 00:23:52,970 --> 00:23:59,180 Suze: Yeah. So here's what keyed me off. Right? So why 383 00:23:59,190 --> 00:24:01,740 Suze: I would not be doing this if I were you, 384 00:24:01,750 --> 00:24:04,760 Suze: I would not be getting married to him. And I'd 385 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,530 Suze: be thinking twice about this relationship. It's not because he 386 00:24:08,530 --> 00:24:12,889 Suze: has $100,000 of debt. That's not it. There are a 387 00:24:12,890 --> 00:24:16,040 Suze: lot of people who have a lot of debt. 388 00:24:16,770 --> 00:24:18,970 Suze: But are they trying to get out on their own. 389 00:24:18,970 --> 00:24:22,030 Suze: Are they showing you that they're responsible? What else are 390 00:24:22,030 --> 00:24:26,540 Suze: they doing? What I didn't like about this email with 391 00:24:26,540 --> 00:24:31,200 Suze: this one line, KT that said he is planning to 392 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:37,280 Suze: marry me by next year. She did not say we 393 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,310 Suze: are planning to get married next year. 394 00:24:41,250 --> 00:24:46,280 Suze: This rings and don't get upset with me. But this 395 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:53,420 Suze: rings as a somewhat abusive relationship already. The age difference. 396 00:24:53,430 --> 00:24:57,380 Suze: Not that that means it's abusive, but he is planning 397 00:24:57,380 --> 00:25:02,070 Suze: to marry me by next year. I don't like that. 398 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,060 Suze: I wanted you to say in this email, 399 00:25:05,330 --> 00:25:08,619 Suze: I'm hoping that he gets to marry me or we 400 00:25:08,619 --> 00:25:14,280 Suze: are planning it. You tell me all about your life 401 00:25:14,330 --> 00:25:17,340 Suze: and everything that you have accomplished. 402 00:25:17,869 --> 00:25:21,660 Suze: And you say I want to buy a condo. You 403 00:25:21,660 --> 00:25:24,990 Suze: do not say we want to buy a condo. You 404 00:25:24,990 --> 00:25:27,600 Suze: say I want to save up so I can at 405 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,320 Suze: least put 25% down. You do not 406 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,980 KT: say there 407 00:25:31,990 --> 00:25:37,150 Suze: is not one place in this email that uses the 408 00:25:37,150 --> 00:25:38,380 Suze: word "we" 409 00:25:39,369 --> 00:25:40,979 Suze: nowhere. 410 00:25:41,770 --> 00:25:43,410 KT: That's good that's a really good... 411 00:25:43,420 --> 00:25:46,330 Suze: that seriously concerns me. 412 00:25:46,340 --> 00:25:47,250 KT: Red flag. 413 00:25:47,260 --> 00:25:50,000 Suze: Red flag. So now all of you need to know. 414 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,399 Suze: And I keep telling you this that at times I 415 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:59,169 Suze: do answer you back and I wrote her back and 416 00:25:59,180 --> 00:26:05,570 Suze: I told her really that she was my daughter that 417 00:26:05,580 --> 00:26:09,250 Suze: I would tell her don't you dare marry this man 418 00:26:09,630 --> 00:26:12,420 Suze: right that I would move on so fast. It's not 419 00:26:12,430 --> 00:26:15,710 Suze: even funny. I told her that she's 28 years of 420 00:26:15,710 --> 00:26:19,090 Suze: age off to a great start. So don't screw it up. 421 00:26:19,090 --> 00:26:23,620 Suze: Now what was so sweet is she wrote me back 422 00:26:23,630 --> 00:26:26,810 Suze: and she said thank you so much Suze Mom, I 423 00:26:26,810 --> 00:26:30,700 Suze: will take your advice, Thanks for everything that you do 424 00:26:31,230 --> 00:26:36,840 Suze: Suze Mom now. But here's why I wanted to do 425 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:37,409 Suze: this quizzie. 426 00:26:38,180 --> 00:26:42,590 Suze: When you have a friend or anybody who's speaking to 427 00:26:42,590 --> 00:26:48,280 Suze: you about a relationship that they're in. Listen very closely 428 00:26:48,350 --> 00:26:52,489 Suze: to the words that they use, Do the words fear, 429 00:26:52,490 --> 00:26:56,189 Suze: shame or anger pop up. Do they only use the 430 00:26:56,190 --> 00:27:01,850 Suze: word i does we appear in the conversation or not? 431 00:27:02,430 --> 00:27:04,969 Suze: And it will really give you the clues that you 432 00:27:04,970 --> 00:27:08,290 Suze: need to help a friend or somebody who comes to 433 00:27:08,290 --> 00:27:14,110 Suze: you in a situation like this. Now before we end 434 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,790 Suze: this KT, I want to say something to you, 435 00:27:20,340 --> 00:27:22,330 Suze: right. I want to say thank 436 00:27:22,330 --> 00:27:23,129 Suze: you. 437 00:27:23,590 --> 00:27:27,219 Suze: I want to say thank you for how many times 438 00:27:27,230 --> 00:27:29,940 Suze: you've had to take care of me over the years 439 00:27:29,940 --> 00:27:31,260 Suze: that we've known each other. 440 00:27:31,990 --> 00:27:35,379 Suze: My very first serious operation that I had 441 00:27:35,990 --> 00:27:40,390 Suze: When I was in Sloan Kettering in 2002 was one 442 00:27:40,390 --> 00:27:42,100 Suze: year after KT and I met 443 00:27:42,609 --> 00:27:45,930 Suze: and that was a serious operation. I've had so many 444 00:27:45,930 --> 00:27:46,840 Suze: since then. 445 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,130 Suze: And KT has been through it and I saw it 446 00:27:51,140 --> 00:27:54,160 Suze: as they took me in for a simple operation, like 447 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,470 Suze: a gallbladder. But I saw that look in your face 448 00:27:57,470 --> 00:27:58,700 Suze: again 449 00:27:58,710 --> 00:28:01,790 Suze: and you've had to take care of me so many 450 00:28:01,790 --> 00:28:04,820 Suze: times and I just want to say thank you. 451 00:28:05,510 --> 00:28:09,660 KT: You're most welcome. But guess what? We are in it together. 452 00:28:09,670 --> 00:28:12,609 Suze: I know, but I just want you all to know. 453 00:28:12,619 --> 00:28:15,969 Suze: I appreciate her more than you have any idea. And 454 00:28:15,970 --> 00:28:18,290 Suze: it's been so very very hard on her. 455 00:28:18,510 --> 00:28:19,720 KT: Oh no it hasn't. 456 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,070 Suze: But anyway, so with that not that I meant to 457 00:28:23,070 --> 00:28:27,140 Suze: cry there, but we only really want one thing for 458 00:28:27,140 --> 00:28:30,800 Suze: all of you and that's for you to all be smart, 459 00:28:31,210 --> 00:28:33,650 Suze: strong, safe and 460 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:34,730 KT: secure 461 00:28:34,740 --> 00:28:37,200 Suze: and healthy. Alright? We love you, 462 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,340 KT: Love you, Suze. 463 00:28:38,340 --> 00:28:41,210 Suze: Love you, KT. Talk to you soon, bye bye.