1 00:00:33,779 --> 00:00:38,360 Suze: December 14th, 2023. Welcome everybody to the Women and Money 2 00:00:38,369 --> 00:00:39,180 Suze: podcast 3 00:00:39,220 --> 00:00:41,159 KT: and everyone's smart enough to listen. 4 00:00:41,209 --> 00:00:44,919 Suze: You hit that right on KT in the house and 5 00:00:44,930 --> 00:00:48,769 Suze: this is the KT and Susie anything segment of 6 00:00:49,029 --> 00:00:52,580 Suze: the Women and Money podcast. So, KT, are you ready? 7 00:00:52,590 --> 00:00:54,709 KT: We're just gonna go right to it. We're gonna get 8 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,979 KT: right to it. And I hope you're all enjoying the 9 00:00:56,990 --> 00:01:00,259 KT: last month of the year. Here we go. This is 10 00:01:00,270 --> 00:01:03,459 KT: from Leslie and I'm starting with this because Suze, I 11 00:01:03,470 --> 00:01:05,679 KT: think you just need to tell her to stand in 12 00:01:05,690 --> 00:01:09,819 KT: her truth ready. Hi, Suze and KT. I started listening 13 00:01:09,830 --> 00:01:12,628 KT: to the podcast this year and, oh, how, I wish 14 00:01:12,639 --> 00:01:14,819 KT: I'd found you so much sooner. 15 00:01:15,260 --> 00:01:19,319 KT: So Leslie's 26 she lives with her boyfriend who's 29 16 00:01:19,650 --> 00:01:22,519 KT: last year, the boyfriend asked her to move across the 17 00:01:22,529 --> 00:01:26,919 KT: country with him after he received an incredible job offer. 18 00:01:27,169 --> 00:01:30,289 KT: So she felt great. I have no credit card debt. 19 00:01:30,300 --> 00:01:34,599 KT: My vehicle was paid off with an inheritance I just received. 20 00:01:35,190 --> 00:01:38,069 KT: This is, wait a minute. So she said let's do 21 00:01:38,220 --> 00:01:41,929 KT: it anyway, her lease was ending. She was completely free 22 00:01:41,940 --> 00:01:46,349 KT: and clear. They moved in January of this past year 23. 23 00:01:46,500 --> 00:01:48,239 Suze: Now, how much credit card debt does she have? 24 00:01:48,250 --> 00:01:54,529 KT: $10,000. Suze is psychic Leslie. So wait a minute. But here's the 25 00:01:54,540 --> 00:01:57,959 KT: thing that I'm a little bit confused about. So she 26 00:01:57,970 --> 00:02:01,440 KT: had everything paid off but she had no savings, no 27 00:02:01,449 --> 00:02:07,370 KT: emergency fund. Anyway, long story short, they had an arrangement 28 00:02:07,379 --> 00:02:10,459 KT: that he pays all the bills and I guess he's 29 00:02:10,470 --> 00:02:14,019 KT: paying the rent and she contributes to groceries and pays 30 00:02:14,029 --> 00:02:15,160 KT: for when they eat out. 31 00:02:15,580 --> 00:02:17,788 KT: But she said that she couldn't get a job for 32 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,329 KT: at least a month when they moved. But how did 33 00:02:20,339 --> 00:02:25,758 KT: she rack up 10 grand in debt credit card? So 34 00:02:25,770 --> 00:02:29,250 KT: the question is, what should I do, Susie? I work 35 00:02:29,258 --> 00:02:32,059 KT: at a bank. If I could admit my issue to 36 00:02:32,070 --> 00:02:33,478 KT: my coworkers, 37 00:02:33,604 --> 00:02:36,994 KT: she said she could apply for a personal loan to consolidate, 38 00:02:37,005 --> 00:02:41,184 KT: she could get all kinds of balance transfers, many different options. 39 00:02:41,195 --> 00:02:44,823 KT: But here's the clincher. She said it's so hard for 40 00:02:44,835 --> 00:02:49,065 KT: me to talk about my debt with people in my life. 41 00:02:49,085 --> 00:02:54,744 KT: Any advice is appreciated. She hasn't come clean with anyone here. 42 00:02:54,755 --> 00:02:56,865 KT: So she's holding on to debt. 43 00:02:56,934 --> 00:02:58,875 Suze: I hear you KT I hear. 44 00:02:58,925 --> 00:02:59,664 KT: What should she do? 45 00:02:59,675 --> 00:03:03,505 Suze: Obviously, Leslie, you got to KT there as far as second. 46 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,619 Suze: So here's the problem. The problem isn't that you have 47 00:03:07,630 --> 00:03:11,580 Suze: $10,000 of credit card debt. That's not the problem. The 48 00:03:11,589 --> 00:03:17,580 Suze: problem is you cannot admit it to other people. Why Leslie? 49 00:03:18,119 --> 00:03:20,448 Suze: Do you feel ashamed of it? Do you feel like 50 00:03:20,460 --> 00:03:23,429 Suze: people will judge you? Are you putting on the pretense, 51 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,179 Suze: which is why you have $10,000 of credit card debt 52 00:03:26,190 --> 00:03:29,139 Suze: that you're making more money than everybody thinks you're making 53 00:03:29,149 --> 00:03:32,899 Suze: or you have more money than others think you may have. 54 00:03:33,190 --> 00:03:37,229 Suze: In order to get out of debt, you have to 55 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:41,589 Suze: face it to erase it. How many times have I 56 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,380 Suze: said that you have to stand in your truth 57 00:03:45,789 --> 00:03:49,470 Suze: and I have had people go out and scream it 58 00:03:49,479 --> 00:03:53,130 Suze: to the world. I have credit card debt. How much 59 00:03:53,139 --> 00:03:55,350 Suze: credit card debt do you have? I would have them 60 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,850 Suze: tell strangers everybody, they loved everybody. They didn't love until 61 00:03:59,860 --> 00:04:03,490 Suze: they felt like they weren't bad people because they had 62 00:04:03,500 --> 00:04:06,009 Suze: credit card debt. They were just bad with their money 63 00:04:06,020 --> 00:04:10,220 Suze: for a small period of time. Now, here's what bothers me. 64 00:04:10,470 --> 00:04:14,649 Suze: You were great with your money before you moved. 65 00:04:15,279 --> 00:04:19,179 Suze: You didn't have debt, you had everything that you wanted. 66 00:04:19,450 --> 00:04:23,149 Suze: But all of a sudden now you go from 1 67 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,969 Suze: to 2, meaning you and your boyfriend and now you 68 00:04:27,980 --> 00:04:34,219 Suze: have $10,000 of debt. Why Leslie, what have you changed 69 00:04:34,230 --> 00:04:35,308 Suze: in your life 70 00:04:36,140 --> 00:04:39,558 Suze: that you are now? Spending more than you have ever 71 00:04:39,570 --> 00:04:44,980 Suze: spent before. You better think about that. Remember, you can 72 00:04:44,988 --> 00:04:49,040 Suze: never fix a financial problem with money. You could pay 73 00:04:49,049 --> 00:04:52,920 Suze: off this debt. But if you can't figure out why 74 00:04:52,928 --> 00:04:56,039 Suze: you got into debt to begin with and you can't 75 00:04:56,049 --> 00:04:59,880 Suze: feel free to tell everybody your coworkers, everybody. 76 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,000 Suze: You're only gonna get further into debt and further into 77 00:05:05,010 --> 00:05:09,500 Suze: a state of lack of self esteem. All right. Go on. 78 00:05:09,510 --> 00:05:13,808 KT: Ok. Next question is from Kathy. Hi, Suze. Hope you're well. 79 00:05:13,820 --> 00:05:17,328 KT: I have a unique situation and could use your guidance. 80 00:05:17,589 --> 00:05:23,089 KT: My husband died in 1996. I never remarried. I've been 81 00:05:23,100 --> 00:05:26,320 KT: working my own job since 1982. 82 00:05:26,820 --> 00:05:30,049 KT: So here's where it goes. I've been told I could 83 00:05:30,059 --> 00:05:33,799 KT: start collecting some of my late husband's social security benefit 84 00:05:33,809 --> 00:05:37,299 KT: when I turned 60 which will be next year. I 85 00:05:37,309 --> 00:05:41,010 KT: was wondering, is this correct? Would it take away from 86 00:05:41,019 --> 00:05:46,049 KT: any benefit my disabled son receives, would doing so have 87 00:05:46,059 --> 00:05:50,799 KT: any negative impact on collecting my own benefit at age 88 00:05:50,809 --> 00:05:54,359 KT: 67 or 70 since I worked more years than my 89 00:05:54,369 --> 00:05:55,359 KT: late husband. 90 00:05:55,850 --> 00:05:56,839 KT: So, there you go. 91 00:05:56,928 --> 00:05:59,839 Suze: So, here's what I would tell you. Number one, 92 00:06:00,809 --> 00:06:05,200 Suze: when you turn 60 you absolutely can collect what's called 93 00:06:05,209 --> 00:06:11,519 Suze: a survivor's benefit because your husband predeceased you very different 94 00:06:11,529 --> 00:06:15,190 Suze: everybody than a spousal benefit where you are divorced from 95 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,920 Suze: your ex. This is a survivor benefit. But at the 96 00:06:19,928 --> 00:06:27,119 Suze: age of 60 you will get if you claim it 28.5% 97 00:06:27,130 --> 00:06:28,669 Suze: of a reduction 98 00:06:29,109 --> 00:06:33,209 Suze: because you are not your full retirement age, which would 99 00:06:33,220 --> 00:06:38,440 Suze: be 67. All right. So if you decide to claim 100 00:06:38,450 --> 00:06:43,220 Suze: it before 67 and you do claim it at 60 101 00:06:43,230 --> 00:06:45,649 Suze: whatever you would get, you are going to have it 102 00:06:45,660 --> 00:06:49,529 Suze: reduced by 28.5%. Not a big deal. 103 00:06:50,010 --> 00:06:53,320 Suze: So now you collected and you collect it every single 104 00:06:53,329 --> 00:06:56,989 Suze: year up until you're 67 which is your full retirement 105 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,789 Suze: age or 70 if you want. And then you convert 106 00:07:00,799 --> 00:07:06,470 Suze: over two years if that happens to be the plan, however, 107 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:11,480 Suze: you're working. So you have to remember that if you 108 00:07:11,489 --> 00:07:18,429 Suze: are making more than $21,240 a year right now 109 00:07:19,410 --> 00:07:24,369 Suze: for every $2 earned, they are going to reduce that 110 00:07:24,380 --> 00:07:29,350 Suze: benefit by $1. So you need to know that, but 111 00:07:29,359 --> 00:07:33,049 Suze: not a big deal because then when you do turn 112 00:07:33,059 --> 00:07:37,890 Suze: full retirement age at 67 you get all that money back. 113 00:07:37,899 --> 00:07:40,510 Suze: So it's like they reduce it, but you do not 114 00:07:40,519 --> 00:07:41,429 Suze: lose it. 115 00:07:41,890 --> 00:07:43,790 Suze: So that might be fine for you and not a 116 00:07:43,799 --> 00:07:47,589 Suze: big problem because that will increase your benefit for you 117 00:07:47,839 --> 00:07:51,309 Suze: when you actually get older. 118 00:07:51,390 --> 00:07:55,630 KT: So, can I ask a question? So she decides not 119 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,510 KT: to take his when she turns 70 let's say she 120 00:07:59,519 --> 00:08:04,950 KT: takes hers if hers is greater than his, is his gone. 121 00:08:05,350 --> 00:08:05,709 Suze: Yeah. 122 00:08:06,390 --> 00:08:10,980 Suze: So she should absolutely be taking her Survivor benefit now 123 00:08:11,549 --> 00:08:13,380 KT: because she worked more than him. 124 00:08:13,390 --> 00:08:17,000 Suze: Hers will be greater as long as hers is greater 125 00:08:17,010 --> 00:08:20,940 Suze: than his. This is what she should do if however everybody, 126 00:08:21,559 --> 00:08:26,829 Suze: his was greater than hers, she might want to take 127 00:08:26,839 --> 00:08:30,660 Suze: her actual social security benefit at 62 128 00:08:31,519 --> 00:08:37,369 Suze: and then at 67 turn over to his. But given 129 00:08:37,380 --> 00:08:39,869 Suze: that she's making more money and her benefit will be 130 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:45,630 Suze: bigger than his. She should take his now in terms 131 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,119 Suze: of a survivor, but I hope that helps you. 132 00:08:48,130 --> 00:08:49,380 KT: K now, 133 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:55,409 KT: Lisa, she said CD versus money market 101. I say 134 00:08:55,419 --> 00:08:58,239 KT: 101 because I started listening about a year and a 135 00:08:58,250 --> 00:09:00,979 KT: half ago. I feel like I'm trying to catch up 136 00:09:00,989 --> 00:09:04,619 KT: on a lifetime of knowledge in the financial world that 137 00:09:04,630 --> 00:09:08,859 KT: I missed out on from Suze Orman for 55 years. 138 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,419 KT: You're not alone out there, Lisa. So she said to KT, 139 00:09:13,429 --> 00:09:16,840 KT: here's your quizzy and this isn't my quizzy. It's Suze's quizzy. 140 00:09:17,609 --> 00:09:22,679 KT: I recently inherited 55,000 from my brother's estate. I have 141 00:09:22,690 --> 00:09:25,909 KT: turned other money that I have inherited over to our 142 00:09:25,919 --> 00:09:29,890 KT: financial planner that is being held in a money market account. 143 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,840 KT: My question is this, is it better to place this 144 00:09:33,849 --> 00:09:37,520 KT: most recent check in the money market earning a bit 145 00:09:37,530 --> 00:09:43,169 KT: over 4% or get a CD perhaps with Alliant at 5.3% 146 00:09:43,179 --> 00:09:44,510 KT: for the 18 months. 147 00:09:44,799 --> 00:09:47,659 KT: I assume the CD rate is locked in for the 148 00:09:47,669 --> 00:09:52,049 KT: entire length of the CD or is there something different 149 00:09:52,059 --> 00:09:54,520 KT: I should be doing? And then she says I don't 150 00:09:54,530 --> 00:09:57,579 KT: need the money in the next 18 months, but she 151 00:09:57,590 --> 00:09:59,130 KT: wants to know it'll be safe 152 00:09:59,140 --> 00:10:00,900 Suze: If you want to know that it's gonna be safe 153 00:10:01,005 --> 00:10:06,034 Suze: if I would absolutely go to my alliant.com and sign 154 00:10:06,044 --> 00:10:09,205 Suze: up for the 18 month CD right now where the 155 00:10:09,215 --> 00:10:17,064 Suze: interest rate is 5.3% or 5.35%. If it's $75,000 or more, 156 00:10:17,469 --> 00:10:22,419 Suze: you also have the ability, remember the minimum deposit into 157 00:10:22,429 --> 00:10:27,569 Suze: a CD is $1000. So you could, if you wanted 158 00:10:27,580 --> 00:10:32,090 Suze: to put $10,000 let's say in the 18 month, 1 159 00:10:32,099 --> 00:10:35,250 Suze: $10,000 in the 19 month, 1, 10 160 00:10:35,354 --> 00:10:40,015 Suze: $1000 in the 20 month, 1 $10,000 in the 21 you, 161 00:10:40,025 --> 00:10:42,815 Suze: you could do it like that all the way up 162 00:10:42,864 --> 00:10:47,434 Suze: to almost two full years just so, you know, so 163 00:10:47,445 --> 00:10:49,544 Suze: you might want to do that. So you do have 164 00:10:49,554 --> 00:10:53,155 Suze: $10,000 then coming to every month if you want to, 165 00:10:53,414 --> 00:10:56,125 Suze: but it's all going to be at the same interest 166 00:10:56,135 --> 00:11:00,864 Suze: rate that does not change. Just saying, what else are 167 00:11:00,875 --> 00:11:02,335 Suze: you saying, KT? 168 00:11:02,695 --> 00:11:04,974 KT: This is a good question from Adriana 169 00:11:05,409 --> 00:11:08,820 KT: Suze. A year ago, I changed the investment on my 170 00:11:08,830 --> 00:11:12,919 KT: 403 B from Vanguard, which was only in stocks to 171 00:11:12,929 --> 00:11:17,080 KT: bonds since the stock market was down. Is it time 172 00:11:17,090 --> 00:11:21,500 KT: now to change back to a conservative or moderate investment, 173 00:11:21,530 --> 00:11:27,598 KT: which would be about 75% stocks and 25% bonds or 174 00:11:27,770 --> 00:11:31,739 KT: even in all stock. I'm 45 and have the account 175 00:11:31,750 --> 00:11:34,150 KT: for 12 years. And she also has 176 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,130 KT: a Roth IRA. What should she do? 177 00:11:37,140 --> 00:11:38,219 KT: That's a good question. 178 00:11:38,239 --> 00:11:42,960 Suze: Adriana, I think you really need a true professional seriously 179 00:11:42,989 --> 00:11:46,979 Suze: to look at what you're doing because a year ago 180 00:11:47,150 --> 00:11:51,140 Suze: would not have been the time to get out of 181 00:11:51,150 --> 00:11:55,419 Suze: stocks and go into bonds. Ok. It would have been, oh, 182 00:11:55,429 --> 00:11:58,839 Suze: the stock market is starting to go down things really. 183 00:11:58,849 --> 00:12:01,049 Suze: If they've gone down, it's not so good. That would 184 00:12:01,059 --> 00:12:01,919 Suze: have been the time 185 00:12:02,075 --> 00:12:04,976 Suze: dollar cost average back into the stock market or just 186 00:12:04,986 --> 00:12:08,705 Suze: leave it there, especially if you were invested in the 187 00:12:08,716 --> 00:12:12,026 Suze: right area of the stock market, which would have been 188 00:12:12,035 --> 00:12:17,596 Suze: technology at that point in time or other things. So 189 00:12:17,606 --> 00:12:21,995 Suze: I'm just concerned that your timing where you're going from 190 00:12:22,005 --> 00:12:23,455 Suze: this to that and that 191 00:12:23,562 --> 00:12:26,692 Suze: into this is not what you should be doing at 192 00:12:26,702 --> 00:12:32,660 Suze: the age of 45 at 45 you should be truthfully 193 00:12:32,671 --> 00:12:38,911 Suze: invested across the board in different kinds of stocks, dividend, stocks, technology, stocks, 194 00:12:38,921 --> 00:12:41,781 Suze: whatever it may be. And if you don't do individual 195 00:12:41,791 --> 00:12:44,932 Suze: stocks and exchange traded funds and things like that, 196 00:12:45,219 --> 00:12:48,119 Suze: but for safe money, you could have a portion of 197 00:12:48,130 --> 00:12:51,799 Suze: it that's safe that you put into some type of bonds. 198 00:12:51,809 --> 00:12:56,429 Suze: But what kind of bonds. So when you just say 25% 199 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,659 Suze: in bonds, I can't answer your question because you're not 200 00:12:59,669 --> 00:13:05,270 Suze: telling me long term, short term treasuries, municipals, Corporates. What 201 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,799 Suze: are you doing? So, I really think given 202 00:13:09,159 --> 00:13:13,619 Suze: that you're 45 you also have a Roth IRA. Hopefully 203 00:13:13,630 --> 00:13:18,869 Suze: you can find some trusted financial advisor that can sit 204 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:23,219 Suze: down with you and really see if they make sense 205 00:13:23,229 --> 00:13:26,020 Suze: to you in terms of what they would be doing 206 00:13:26,030 --> 00:13:29,659 Suze: with this money. Yes, KT. Ok. 207 00:13:29,669 --> 00:13:32,099 KT: This is a, this one makes me sad. This is 208 00:13:32,109 --> 00:13:32,919 KT: from Jillian. 209 00:13:33,719 --> 00:13:36,699 KT: Hey, Suze and KT. I love listening to the podcast 210 00:13:36,710 --> 00:13:40,099 KT: and I've learned so much. I recently lost my aunt 211 00:13:40,109 --> 00:13:43,309 KT: whom I was like a daughter to. I was helping 212 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:47,020 KT: her with her finances and created her will and trust 213 00:13:47,030 --> 00:13:49,880 KT: with the must have documents. I sent it to her 214 00:13:49,890 --> 00:13:53,210 KT: in Florida where she was in assisted living. And Jillian 215 00:13:53,219 --> 00:13:56,140 KT: lives in New Jersey. She said she told her where 216 00:13:56,150 --> 00:13:58,940 KT: to sign and even had a notary go to her 217 00:13:58,950 --> 00:14:01,659 KT: assisted living place to notarize. 218 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,979 KT: She actually mailed back the originals the same day she 219 00:14:05,989 --> 00:14:10,330 KT: passed ironically, Suze. But upon looking at them, they realized 220 00:14:10,340 --> 00:14:14,760 KT: there were no witnesses with her and the notary. So 221 00:14:14,770 --> 00:14:17,260 KT: she was upset with the notary, but now she's told 222 00:14:17,270 --> 00:14:20,940 KT: the will is incomplete, the trust is incomplete. She didn't 223 00:14:20,950 --> 00:14:24,840 KT: have much. She had a checking account with about $30,000 224 00:14:24,849 --> 00:14:29,190 KT: which she was counting on Jillian to reimburse herself for 225 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:30,700 KT: the funeral expenses. 226 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,479 KT: And then she said she still has a Roth IRA 227 00:14:34,679 --> 00:14:39,140 KT: and a traditional IRA of about 54,000 that she's the 228 00:14:39,150 --> 00:14:43,380 KT: beneficiary on. But she's asking what can she do to 229 00:14:43,390 --> 00:14:47,409 KT: recoup the $30,000. They didn't have witnesses. 230 00:14:47,609 --> 00:14:51,609 Suze: That wasn't the problem, Katie, believe it or not. The 231 00:14:51,619 --> 00:14:55,479 Suze: one thing, everybody that you have got to understand about 232 00:14:55,489 --> 00:14:57,500 Suze: a living revocable trust 233 00:14:57,780 --> 00:15:03,880 Suze: is that once you have had your documents notarized and witnessed, 234 00:15:04,289 --> 00:15:07,960 Suze: you then have to take the time to change the 235 00:15:07,969 --> 00:15:13,000 Suze: title of that asset from aunt's name in this particular 236 00:15:13,010 --> 00:15:15,820 Suze: case to the trust for the ant. 237 00:15:16,450 --> 00:15:21,849 Suze: And within the trust, it would have made Jillian the beneficiary. 238 00:15:21,859 --> 00:15:24,950 Suze: So it would have gone directly to her. So Jillian, 239 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:29,369 Suze: it wasn't just the fact that she didn't have witnesses. 240 00:15:29,380 --> 00:15:33,429 Suze: There wasn't enough time to fund that's called funding the 241 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,909 Suze: trust where you change the title of the asset from 242 00:15:37,919 --> 00:15:42,070 Suze: the individual name to the title of the trust. Number one, 243 00:15:42,770 --> 00:15:47,030 Suze: the other mistake that was made here, it is far, 244 00:15:47,039 --> 00:15:51,590 Suze: far easier when you have something like a checking account 245 00:15:51,679 --> 00:15:56,270 Suze: or a Roth IRA or a traditional IRA to just 246 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:00,950 Suze: name a beneficiary. If she had just simply put your 247 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:05,159 Suze: name as the beneficiary as a pay on death account, 248 00:16:05,169 --> 00:16:09,070 Suze: a pod account on that checking account, it would have 249 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,109 Suze: gone to you right away. 250 00:16:12,619 --> 00:16:16,929 Suze: So that would have taken care of that problem as well, 251 00:16:16,940 --> 00:16:22,479 Suze: where you're really looking for a trust isn't necessarily who 252 00:16:22,489 --> 00:16:25,799 Suze: it pays out to on death because you can sometimes 253 00:16:25,809 --> 00:16:28,200 Suze: take care of that with a pay on death or 254 00:16:28,210 --> 00:16:29,799 Suze: a transfer on death account. 255 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:36,299 Suze: It's all of a sudden, aunt becomes incapacitated. She isn't dead, 256 00:16:36,580 --> 00:16:40,570 Suze: but she can't write checks anymore. She can't do those things. 257 00:16:40,580 --> 00:16:44,820 Suze: A pay on death account isn't going to help. That's 258 00:16:44,830 --> 00:16:49,630 Suze: when a trust comes in handy, that would have named 259 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,700 Suze: Jillian as the successor trustee. And then Jillian would have 260 00:16:53,710 --> 00:16:57,859 Suze: been able to pay all of auntie's bills for her. 261 00:16:58,349 --> 00:17:02,630 Suze: So, what do you do? Now? The good news is 262 00:17:02,719 --> 00:17:07,250 Suze: she did leave you as beneficiary on the Roth Ira 263 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:12,520 Suze: where there was $45,000 in it. What that means is 264 00:17:12,530 --> 00:17:17,849 Suze: you can take out all $45,000 without any taxes or 265 00:17:17,859 --> 00:17:19,530 Suze: penalties whatsoever. 266 00:17:20,109 --> 00:17:24,510 Suze: So now you have access at least to that $45,000 267 00:17:24,589 --> 00:17:29,650 Suze: without having to worry about it. That's number one, number two, 268 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:35,170 Suze: there's a traditional IRA that has $9000 in it. 269 00:17:35,630 --> 00:17:38,129 Suze: So I'm not sure if in fact, you're in a 270 00:17:38,140 --> 00:17:41,889 Suze: high income tax bracket if you're not, if it were me, 271 00:17:41,900 --> 00:17:44,458 Suze: rather than going through the thing of the rules of 272 00:17:44,469 --> 00:17:48,349 Suze: inherited IRAs and having to take out so much, it's 273 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,800 Suze: a pain at this point in time. Take out half 274 00:17:51,810 --> 00:17:54,849 Suze: this year, take out the other half next year. 275 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,959 Suze: Your taxes aren't going to go up that much then 276 00:17:57,969 --> 00:18:02,859 Suze: all of the money is out of retirement accounts. Now, 277 00:18:02,869 --> 00:18:07,300 Suze: as far as the $30,000 goes, you say that she 278 00:18:07,310 --> 00:18:12,459 Suze: didn't have any other Children that she wanted you as 279 00:18:12,469 --> 00:18:16,449 Suze: the sole executor, as I'm reading this email, KT just 280 00:18:16,459 --> 00:18:17,449 Suze: handed me. 281 00:18:17,709 --> 00:18:23,250 Suze: So eventually that will come to you in terms of 282 00:18:23,260 --> 00:18:29,020 Suze: succession rules that $30,000 might go into something called intestate 283 00:18:29,030 --> 00:18:33,530 Suze: succession because there was no will or trust dictating where 284 00:18:33,540 --> 00:18:37,849 Suze: it should go and the state of Florida will dictate 285 00:18:37,859 --> 00:18:39,930 Suze: who gets that money. 286 00:18:40,430 --> 00:18:43,069 Suze: So given that she doesn't have any kids, I'm sure 287 00:18:43,079 --> 00:18:46,458 Suze: she doesn't have a spouse and anything like that. Most 288 00:18:46,469 --> 00:18:50,969 Suze: likely it will come to you anyway. But in the meantime, 289 00:18:50,979 --> 00:18:54,719 Suze: you do have the money there to pay back for 290 00:18:54,729 --> 00:18:56,810 Suze: the funeral expenses. All right. 291 00:18:56,979 --> 00:18:59,290 KT: Ok. Next question is from Jean. 292 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,459 KT: I've learned so much from your podcast series. Thank you. 293 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:08,449 KT: My question is, can I put high commission variable annuities? 294 00:19:08,599 --> 00:19:12,579 KT: One that has matured, the other has another two years 295 00:19:12,589 --> 00:19:15,040 KT: to go. You love how she referred to that high 296 00:19:15,050 --> 00:19:19,688 KT: commissioned variable. So she wants to put in part 297 00:19:20,050 --> 00:19:25,020 KT: an IRA, an existing Roth and a savings account. I'm retired. 298 00:19:25,030 --> 00:19:28,540 KT: My husband's retiring next year. We're still a few years 299 00:19:28,550 --> 00:19:32,708 KT: away from RMD. What is the best way to handle this? 300 00:19:32,930 --> 00:19:36,829 Suze: Well the truth of the matter is... I can't answer this 301 00:19:36,839 --> 00:19:41,270 Suze: question for you. Jean because I don't know if these 302 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,910 Suze: variable annuities were funded 303 00:19:44,290 --> 00:19:49,910 Suze: as a qualified retirement account or a non qualified retirement account. 304 00:19:49,930 --> 00:19:55,629 Suze: A qualified annuity is one that is funded with money. 305 00:19:55,640 --> 00:20:00,488 Suze: You have never paid taxes on. So usually you purchase 306 00:20:00,500 --> 00:20:03,020 Suze: that within an IRA 307 00:20:03,569 --> 00:20:08,948 Suze: a non-qualified annuity is one that you purchased with money 308 00:20:08,959 --> 00:20:13,890 Suze: that you have already paid taxes on. So I don't 309 00:20:13,900 --> 00:20:17,889 Suze: know which one you have. If it happens to be 310 00:20:17,900 --> 00:20:23,010 Suze: a qualified annuity, you can, if you want roll it 311 00:20:23,020 --> 00:20:27,229 Suze: into the traditional Ira, you do not wanna put it 312 00:20:27,239 --> 00:20:28,699 Suze: into your Roth 313 00:20:29,140 --> 00:20:32,280 Suze: because that will make whatever amount you put in there 314 00:20:32,290 --> 00:20:36,670 Suze: totally taxable to you at that time. In terms of 315 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:42,390 Suze: a savings account. If these have matured, you absolutely can 316 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,069 Suze: take the money out. But here is why I hate 317 00:20:45,500 --> 00:20:53,069 Suze: annuities like this. Everybody is that gene. Let's just assume 318 00:20:53,079 --> 00:20:55,030 Suze: these are non-qualified annuities. 319 00:20:55,599 --> 00:20:58,729 Suze: You have already paid taxes on the money that you 320 00:20:58,739 --> 00:20:59,430 Suze: invested 321 00:21:00,170 --> 00:21:02,949 Suze: and all these years now that they've been in there 322 00:21:02,959 --> 00:21:05,790 Suze: and it's a long time since you say they've matured, 323 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,790 Suze: which means they're out of their surrender period. They're now 324 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,659 Suze: worth a whole lot more than what you put in. 325 00:21:13,030 --> 00:21:17,349 Suze: When you go to take it out, whatever amount that 326 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,489 Suze: you're going to take out the growth of everything there 327 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:25,310 Suze: is going to be taxed to you as ordinary income. Ok? 328 00:21:26,209 --> 00:21:33,119 Suze: That's really sad. You're not gonna get capital gains tax treatment, anything. 329 00:21:33,130 --> 00:21:36,478 Suze: It's going to be taxed to you. The growth of 330 00:21:36,489 --> 00:21:41,510 Suze: this as ordinary income. So you have to consult a 331 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:46,099 Suze: tax person before you do anything here and find out 332 00:21:46,109 --> 00:21:50,290 Suze: what is it that you have? You say we're still 333 00:21:50,300 --> 00:21:52,229 Suze: a few years away from RMDs. 334 00:21:53,369 --> 00:21:56,619 Suze: So that kind of says to me that maybe these 335 00:21:56,630 --> 00:22:01,910 Suze: are qualified annuities if that's true. Put them in if 336 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:07,569 Suze: you want to, into your traditional ira, but not into 337 00:22:07,579 --> 00:22:11,569 Suze: your Roth and not into your savings account. All right. 338 00:22:11,579 --> 00:22:11,989 Suze: Go on. 339 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,589 KT: This is from Sherry. She said, Suze, I listened to 340 00:22:15,599 --> 00:22:19,260 KT: your Gold Digger podcast today. I'd love if you were 341 00:22:19,270 --> 00:22:21,819 KT: to offer individual advice to me, 342 00:22:22,050 --> 00:22:24,909 KT: I have a large sum of money in cash earning 343 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:30,030 KT: very little interest. I'm so afraid to invest because I've 344 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,469 KT: saved it bit by bit over the years. I'm even 345 00:22:33,479 --> 00:22:36,750 KT: nervous about putting it in CDs because I don't know 346 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,010 KT: how much to put in or how to ladder. Thank 347 00:22:40,020 --> 00:22:42,869 KT: you so much for your show. I've been listening for 348 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,209 KT: decades and you helped me pay off my house many 349 00:22:46,219 --> 00:22:49,670 KT: years ago, but I still have a lot to learn. Suze. 350 00:22:49,819 --> 00:22:51,430 KT: Tell her what to do with that. 351 00:22:52,380 --> 00:22:54,369 KT: Tell her CDs are ok. 352 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,379 Suze: Well, here's the thing Sherry is that I have a 353 00:22:58,390 --> 00:23:04,689 Suze: saying that there are three internal obstacles to wealth, fear, 354 00:23:05,239 --> 00:23:11,890 Suze: shame and anger. Your fear is keeping you from making 355 00:23:11,900 --> 00:23:15,329 Suze: the most out of the money that you have. The 356 00:23:15,339 --> 00:23:17,969 Suze: fact that you have a large sum of money. And 357 00:23:17,979 --> 00:23:20,569 Suze: I don't even know what large means to you, 358 00:23:20,859 --> 00:23:25,239 Suze: but that's earning very little interest. And you say that 359 00:23:25,250 --> 00:23:28,369 Suze: you're so afraid to invest because I've saved it bit 360 00:23:28,380 --> 00:23:32,599 Suze: by bit over the years. If you worked so hard, 361 00:23:32,890 --> 00:23:37,660 Suze: bit by bit to save it over the years, why 362 00:23:37,670 --> 00:23:41,260 Suze: would you be giving up, not bits of money but 363 00:23:41,270 --> 00:23:43,679 Suze: huge sums of money. 364 00:23:44,229 --> 00:23:48,449 Suze: What you have to understand is that certificates of deposits 365 00:23:48,739 --> 00:23:56,290 Suze: for investments under $250,000 in banks or credit unions or 366 00:23:56,300 --> 00:24:03,129 Suze: treasuries or even money market accounts at financial institutions, they 367 00:24:03,140 --> 00:24:07,989 Suze: really are safe and sound and rather than just having 368 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,439 Suze: your money in a bank making maybe half a percent 369 00:24:11,449 --> 00:24:12,929 Suze: or 0.8% 370 00:24:13,369 --> 00:24:16,900 Suze: you could have it in a certificate of deposit. For instance, 371 00:24:17,010 --> 00:24:20,560 Suze: let's say you did put $200,000 in there. That would 372 00:24:20,569 --> 00:24:26,859 Suze: be at least $10,000 a year of interest. And if 373 00:24:26,869 --> 00:24:30,180 Suze: you had done this two years ago, you'd have 20 374 00:24:30,189 --> 00:24:34,880 Suze: some odd thousand dollars more just by doing a move. That 375 00:24:34,890 --> 00:24:38,000 Suze: absolutely is safe and sound. 376 00:24:38,369 --> 00:24:42,630 Suze: If you do not need this money and you know, 377 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,520 Suze: you don't need this money or you designate a specific 378 00:24:46,530 --> 00:24:50,359 Suze: amount of money of what you have and you know, 379 00:24:50,369 --> 00:24:52,339 Suze: you're not going to need it for at least, let's 380 00:24:52,349 --> 00:25:04,149 Suze: say two years, then go to my alliant.com, that's myalliant.com 381 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,040 Suze: and open up a CD there 382 00:25:07,310 --> 00:25:13,010 Suze: for 18 months. Just that simple. And for 18 months, 383 00:25:13,020 --> 00:25:18,449 Suze: you're gonna be making either 5.3 or 5.35% depending on 384 00:25:18,459 --> 00:25:21,290 Suze: how much money you put in there. That money is 385 00:25:21,300 --> 00:25:28,219 Suze: absolutely insured up to $250,000. So just know that at 386 00:25:28,229 --> 00:25:30,329 Suze: least start there. 387 00:25:30,819 --> 00:25:33,810 KT: Ok, Suze, my last question, this is from Donna. 388 00:25:34,810 --> 00:25:38,280 KT: Good morning, Suze and KT. I wanted to give a 389 00:25:38,290 --> 00:25:42,359 KT: big thank you for a great Sunday school this past weekend. 390 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,020 KT: So she loved it. I have a quick question regarding 391 00:25:46,030 --> 00:25:47,780 KT: Vanguard's ETF S. 392 00:25:48,219 --> 00:25:51,699 KT: My accounts are in Vanguard and they just started offering 393 00:25:51,709 --> 00:25:55,800 KT: fractional shares this year but only in the ETFs or 394 00:25:55,810 --> 00:25:58,390 KT: mutual funds. Not anything else. 395 00:25:58,630 --> 00:25:59,670 Suze: Not individual stocks? 396 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:04,660 KT: No, you mentioned QQQ, SPT. I would love to have that 397 00:26:04,670 --> 00:26:08,438 KT: but it's expensive without a fractional share purchase. 398 00:26:08,459 --> 00:26:09,510 Suze: It's almost $400 a share. 399 00:26:09,729 --> 00:26:13,379 KT: Is VOO and VTT just as good or should I 400 00:26:13,390 --> 00:26:16,639 KT: move to Fidelity? So listen up everyone. 401 00:26:16,900 --> 00:26:19,188 KT: She wants to get out of Vanguard to go to 402 00:26:19,199 --> 00:26:22,958 KT: Fidelity so she can purchase anything in fractional shares. 403 00:26:23,729 --> 00:26:23,839 Suze: You bet you should. 404 00:26:23,849 --> 00:26:27,060 KT: I have been contemplating the move for a while because of this. 405 00:26:27,150 --> 00:26:31,079 KT: She can only place $100 a month in her Roth. 406 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,119 KT: And then she said I am DCA. 407 00:26:33,714 --> 00:26:34,474 KT: What does that mean? 408 00:26:34,484 --> 00:26:38,795 Suze: Dollar cost averaging. What do you think it was like OCD, 409 00:26:38,805 --> 00:26:39,744 Suze: something like that? 410 00:26:40,045 --> 00:26:43,255 KT: Yea, "I am DCA." She's 61 and she's trying to save as much 411 00:26:43,265 --> 00:26:43,574 KT: as she did. 412 00:26:43,935 --> 00:26:45,854 Suze: You know, I have to tell you I ran into 413 00:26:45,864 --> 00:26:50,765 Suze: this problem last week with Colo's account, I wanted to 414 00:26:50,775 --> 00:26:51,594 Suze: buy him 415 00:26:52,079 --> 00:26:56,020 Suze: QQQ, but I didn't want to buy him one full share. 416 00:26:56,030 --> 00:26:59,219 Suze: I did only want to put in maybe $100 for 417 00:26:59,229 --> 00:27:03,069 Suze: him or $200. And the firm that I have his 418 00:27:03,079 --> 00:27:04,410 Suze: Roth IRA with 419 00:27:04,869 --> 00:27:09,209 Suze: does not do fractional shares and I cannot tell you 420 00:27:09,219 --> 00:27:13,449 Suze: how aggravated I was at that if I were you 421 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,170 Suze: and Fidelity does do fractional shares, which means that if 422 00:27:18,180 --> 00:27:22,129 Suze: one share of stock, everybody is just, let's say $400 423 00:27:22,140 --> 00:27:26,010 Suze: and all you want to invest in it is $15. 424 00:27:26,020 --> 00:27:30,969 Suze: They let you do that. And so if I were you, 425 00:27:31,030 --> 00:27:33,609 Suze: I would switch my account number one 426 00:27:33,979 --> 00:27:37,500 Suze: and number two, I might be doing so as well 427 00:27:37,510 --> 00:27:40,469 Suze: for Colo. All right, KT, do you know what time 428 00:27:40,479 --> 00:27:40,859 Suze: it is? 429 00:27:40,869 --> 00:27:42,399 KT: Quizzy time, Suze. 430 00:27:42,770 --> 00:27:46,540 Suze: All right, everybody. This is quizzy time where I asked 431 00:27:46,550 --> 00:27:49,959 Suze: KT and all of you a question and let's just 432 00:27:49,969 --> 00:27:53,959 Suze: see if you can answer it. Now, last Sunday, 433 00:27:54,729 --> 00:27:59,869 Suze: I did a Suze School talking about the seven magnificent 434 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:06,359 Suze: stocks that really made the markets move. And on Sunday 435 00:28:06,369 --> 00:28:07,208 Suze: morning 436 00:28:07,900 --> 00:28:12,000 Suze: after I did that, I actually sat down with KT, 437 00:28:12,500 --> 00:28:15,209 Suze: my sister in law, her twin sister and my brother 438 00:28:15,219 --> 00:28:17,410 Suze: in law, her twin sister's husband... 439 00:28:17,849 --> 00:28:19,839 KT: And Colo. 440 00:28:20,459 --> 00:28:24,719 Suze: Yes, Colo was with us for breakfast. And as we were having breakfast, 441 00:28:24,849 --> 00:28:30,160 Suze: everybody intently listened to that podcast. 442 00:28:30,810 --> 00:28:35,650 Suze: And again on that podcast, I named the seven stocks 443 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,760 Suze: that seriously moved the stock market. If you didn't own 444 00:28:39,770 --> 00:28:43,050 Suze: these this year, you really didn't make that much money 445 00:28:43,060 --> 00:28:45,790 Suze: at all in the stock market. So, 446 00:28:46,510 --> 00:28:47,130 Suze: KT 447 00:28:49,339 --> 00:28:49,839 KT: (Laughs) What? 448 00:28:51,810 --> 00:28:58,219 Suze: Your quizzy today, and everybody's quizzy is: Can you remember the 449 00:28:58,229 --> 00:29:03,300 Suze: seven stocks that I happened to name. 450 00:29:03,780 --> 00:29:07,569 KT: Oh no. Alright, give me a hint? I can remember like probably five 451 00:29:07,579 --> 00:29:08,890 KT: of them. But give me a hint. 452 00:29:08,900 --> 00:29:10,329 Suze: Ok the hint is... 453 00:29:10,709 --> 00:29:13,880 Suze: one of my favorite people in life was my aunt. 454 00:29:13,900 --> 00:29:14,729 KT: That's true. 455 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,640 Suze: One of your favorite people in life was your mama. 456 00:29:19,300 --> 00:29:24,839 Suze: But let's spell aunt ANT not AUNT... so aunt Mama. 457 00:29:25,459 --> 00:29:26,949 KT: So that's my hint? 458 00:29:27,489 --> 00:29:29,939 Suze: That's your hint. Aunt Mama. 459 00:29:31,239 --> 00:29:34,489 KT: OK. The A stock I can remember pretty easily. 460 00:29:35,020 --> 00:29:37,449 KT: So the first one I, I love because I have 461 00:29:37,459 --> 00:29:41,420 KT: lots of it is Apple, right? The N is a 462 00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:44,339 KT: little tricky because I don't, I don't remember this one 463 00:29:44,349 --> 00:29:49,949 KT: but it was N via N via envy. NVIDIA, NVIDIA 464 00:29:51,844 --> 00:29:54,324 KT: T, easy: Tesla. Tesla. 465 00:29:55,204 --> 00:30:00,234 Suze: Ok that was ANT, now mama - M A M A. What do they stand for? 466 00:30:01,285 --> 00:30:04,074 KT: M is definitely Microsoft. I know we have a lot of that. 467 00:30:04,084 --> 00:30:05,074 KT: Microsoft 468 00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:13,699 KT: um A... oh, Suze's favorite stock to play on Amazon. Amazon. 469 00:30:15,170 --> 00:30:16,819 KT: I have, I have another M... 470 00:30:18,260 --> 00:30:19,349 Suze: KT, you bought it at 90 after I said I wouldn't touch it. 471 00:30:21,250 --> 00:30:21,310 KT: Meta! I like Mark. 472 00:30:26,199 --> 00:30:30,260 Suze: It tripled your money in that. Now the last one 473 00:30:30,270 --> 00:30:34,180 Suze: may confuse everybody but KT will probably get it. 474 00:30:34,599 --> 00:30:38,310 KT: I remember that the other a because everyone calls it 475 00:30:38,319 --> 00:30:40,939 KT: by a different name but it's Alphabet but we all 476 00:30:40,949 --> 00:30:45,579 KT: refer to it as Google but it's Alphabet. Wait, so wait, wait, 477 00:30:46,079 --> 00:30:50,390 KT: let me do it. Aunt Mama. Ready everybody. Apple and 478 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:58,989 KT: NVIDIA NVIDIA Tesla. East, ANT. Mama Microsoft Amazon. 479 00:31:00,290 --> 00:31:03,209 KT: Um Meta and alphabet. 480 00:31:03,219 --> 00:31:05,170 Suze: Yes. Better known as Google as well. 481 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:05,969 KT: I got it. 482 00:31:05,979 --> 00:31:08,229 Suze: Yes! Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. 483 00:31:08,689 --> 00:31:11,640 KT: I could only actually without these hints, I could only 484 00:31:11,650 --> 00:31:12,670 KT: get five of them 485 00:31:13,619 --> 00:31:18,050 KT: but I got all the spectacular seven or the what 486 00:31:18,060 --> 00:31:18,750 KT: did you call it? 487 00:31:18,810 --> 00:31:24,170 Suze: Magnificent seven. Alright, everybody. So if you want to remember 488 00:31:24,180 --> 00:31:26,719 Suze: those stocks, remember: ANT MAMA. 489 00:31:30,479 --> 00:31:32,560 KT: Let's give this test to Colo. 490 00:31:33,430 --> 00:31:34,699 Suze: Ok, we can do that. 491 00:31:34,709 --> 00:31:37,959 KT: Because he loves to read his little stock portfolio. 492 00:31:38,310 --> 00:31:41,250 Suze: So what do we want to tell everybody? 493 00:31:41,260 --> 00:31:44,729 KT: Listen, everyone today wherever we go, 494 00:31:45,469 --> 00:31:52,250 KT: I will create a more peaceful, joyful and loving world. 495 00:31:52,339 --> 00:31:56,650 Suze: And listen, if you all do that, if you all 496 00:31:56,660 --> 00:31:59,780 Suze: really try your best just to even do one of 497 00:31:59,790 --> 00:32:05,530 Suze: those things, I promise you. and so does KT, that 498 00:32:05,540 --> 00:32:09,010 Suze: you will be unstoppable.