1 00:00:07,539 --> 00:00:07,789 Music: MUSIC. 2 00:00:37,380 --> 00:00:41,779 KT: Good morning, Suze. Let's start with Good morning Suze. How 3 00:00:41,790 --> 00:00:42,580 KT: you sleep? 4 00:00:42,590 --> 00:00:44,589 Suze: Wait. You want me to say that before I say 5 00:00:44,598 --> 00:00:45,189 Suze: the date. 6 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,799 KT: Yeah. Good morning, Suze. It's so early. It's even a 7 00:00:49,810 --> 00:00:53,779 KT: little dark out. It's really early. We have a big 8 00:00:53,790 --> 00:00:56,549 KT: weekend ahead of us. So we're starting early. 9 00:00:56,869 --> 00:00:59,479 Suze: The reason we have a big weekend is why KT? 10 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,130 KT: The family's coming and the kids are coming and when 11 00:01:02,139 --> 00:01:04,290 KT: the kids come, it's really fun. 12 00:01:04,499 --> 00:01:08,338 KT: Matter of fact, little Tommy J who's five, said he 13 00:01:08,348 --> 00:01:10,789 KT: wants to ride on the fire truck. We have an 14 00:01:10,799 --> 00:01:14,557 KT: island fire truck with Colo and he said he won't 15 00:01:14,569 --> 00:01:16,447 KT: be afraid when they blow the horn. 16 00:01:16,499 --> 00:01:19,048 Suze: Last year. He cried, cried and cried. 17 00:01:19,058 --> 00:01:22,628 KT: And his brother who's three, looked at him and said, brother, 18 00:01:22,778 --> 00:01:25,307 KT: you won't cry when they blow the horn? 19 00:01:27,199 --> 00:01:34,440 Suze: All right, this is our podcast and this is April 6th, 2023. 20 00:01:34,449 --> 00:01:37,940 Suze: Welcome everybody to the Women and Money podcast, and everybody's 21 00:01:37,949 --> 00:01:41,869 Suze: smart enough to listen. And this is the Ask KT 22 00:01:41,879 --> 00:01:46,120 Suze: and Suze anything edition. And I just want to say 23 00:01:46,239 --> 00:01:49,379 Suze: that if you want to ask a question, you do 24 00:01:49,389 --> 00:01:53,860 Suze: write into ask Suze S U Z E podcast at 25 00:01:53,870 --> 00:01:55,190 Suze: gmail dot com. 26 00:01:55,389 --> 00:01:59,279 Suze: And if KT chooses it, we will answer it on 27 00:01:59,290 --> 00:02:03,349 Suze: the podcast. However, I can tell you she does not 28 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:08,279 Suze: like long emails. I watched her go through them the 29 00:02:08,288 --> 00:02:12,320 Suze: other day and one by the other, too much information here. 30 00:02:13,139 --> 00:02:15,119 Suze: So anyway, just keep that... 31 00:02:15,755 --> 00:02:18,154 KT: I have a big variety here though. We might want 32 00:02:18,163 --> 00:02:20,103 KT: to be able to do a fast fire to get 33 00:02:20,115 --> 00:02:23,394 KT: through them because I've got a huge, I think I 34 00:02:23,404 --> 00:02:26,945 KT: have like 12 questions. Well, we've already taken up 10 minutes. 35 00:02:26,955 --> 00:02:29,464 KT: All right, let's go ready. First one's from Gaye. She 36 00:02:29,475 --> 00:02:33,524 KT: said I am 70 plus among my assets is a 37 00:02:33,535 --> 00:02:36,005 KT: relatively small bank CD. 38 00:02:36,250 --> 00:02:39,320 KT: I do not need this money for my routine expenses. 39 00:02:39,330 --> 00:02:42,448 KT: But the question is if I want to renew with 40 00:02:42,460 --> 00:02:48,009 KT: the maturity date past the required RMD date, does the 41 00:02:48,020 --> 00:02:52,380 KT: bank have to let me withdraw the RMD without penalty 42 00:02:52,389 --> 00:02:54,339 KT: before maturity? 43 00:02:54,630 --> 00:02:56,330 KT: No, she said that, Suze. 44 00:02:56,339 --> 00:02:58,580 Suze: No, it's all right. Let me just answer it. Doesn't 45 00:02:58,589 --> 00:02:59,639 Suze: matter what the bank said. 46 00:02:59,770 --> 00:03:02,839 KT: No, she's, this is funny though. She said the bank 47 00:03:02,850 --> 00:03:06,288 KT: person I asked didn't give me confidence, he actually knew 48 00:03:06,300 --> 00:03:09,500 KT: the answer. So I'm asking Suze. 49 00:03:09,508 --> 00:03:12,960 Suze: And Suze will tell you no, for those of you 50 00:03:12,970 --> 00:03:16,179 Suze: who want to know RMD, is required minimum distributions. 51 00:03:16,776 --> 00:03:21,716 Suze: And if you were born between 1951 and 1959, the 52 00:03:21,725 --> 00:03:26,906 Suze: new required minimum distribution age is 73. If you were 53 00:03:26,916 --> 00:03:33,776 Suze: born after 1959, it is 75. RMDS mean required minimum 54 00:03:33,785 --> 00:03:37,815 Suze: distributions which does translate to: once you turn 55 00:03:37,901 --> 00:03:42,492 Suze: that age, you have got to take out a required 56 00:03:42,501 --> 00:03:47,882 Suze: distribution from your retirement accounts that are non ROTH and 57 00:03:47,891 --> 00:03:52,412 Suze: there is a minimum that you must take out. So Gaye, No, 58 00:03:52,421 --> 00:03:56,292 Suze: if you happen to, let's just say, buy a five 59 00:03:56,302 --> 00:04:00,822 Suze: year certificate of deposit right now and you need to 60 00:04:00,832 --> 00:04:05,111 Suze: take out more than the interest that, that deposit is 61 00:04:05,121 --> 00:04:07,212 Suze: absolutely generating for you. 62 00:04:07,649 --> 00:04:10,580 Suze: The bank does not allow you to do so without 63 00:04:10,589 --> 00:04:13,960 Suze: charging you if you break into that certificate of deposit, 64 00:04:14,380 --> 00:04:18,219 Suze: a probably a three or six month penalty. All right, 65 00:04:18,230 --> 00:04:18,540 Suze: go on. 66 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,450 KT: Suze, next question is from Joseph. I quickly must make 67 00:04:22,459 --> 00:04:29,029 KT: a huge decision regarding my government pension, which is $100,000 annually, 68 00:04:29,079 --> 00:04:33,570 KT: whether I should take 100% joint survivor for my wife 69 00:04:33,579 --> 00:04:37,630 KT: or 50% joint survivor with the pop up. 70 00:04:38,238 --> 00:04:41,179 KT: I, yeah, I didn't know what a pop up. I 71 00:04:41,190 --> 00:04:44,890 KT: started reading your book, The Ultimate Retirement Guide for 50 Plus. 72 00:04:44,899 --> 00:04:50,959 KT: And I know you recommend 100% joint and survivor if possible. 73 00:04:50,970 --> 00:04:55,219 KT: We also have other assets. We believe our retirement accounts 74 00:04:55,230 --> 00:04:59,410 KT: will grow to over three million and more within 10, 75 00:04:59,420 --> 00:05:03,190 KT: 15 or even 20 years. With all this in mind, 76 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,750 KT: would you still recommend giving up a lot of extra 77 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,070 KT: money on 100 78 00:05:07,149 --> 00:05:11,700 KT: percent joint and Survivor knowing we have these other assets? 79 00:05:11,709 --> 00:05:15,369 Suze: Let me just see this because they list it right. KT... Yes. 80 00:05:15,380 --> 00:05:18,339 Suze: See when you do a long email, KT will jump 81 00:05:18,350 --> 00:05:22,450 Suze: over all the individual things where like, I'm looking at 82 00:05:22,459 --> 00:05:24,760 Suze: the email and Joseph, you're listing all the money that 83 00:05:24,769 --> 00:05:28,419 Suze: you have in your 401k plans. You're telling me that 84 00:05:28,510 --> 00:05:32,039 Suze: your parents own rental property and that you're the beneficiaries 85 00:05:32,049 --> 00:05:35,019 Suze: of it and they're worth $2 million and on and 86 00:05:35,029 --> 00:05:35,959 Suze: on and on. 87 00:05:36,570 --> 00:05:40,959 Suze: Joseph. Let me first explain to everybody what you're talking 88 00:05:40,970 --> 00:05:45,519 Suze: about here and then I'll tell you my answer, Joseph 89 00:05:45,529 --> 00:05:48,510 Suze: has a job, everybody that's going to pay him a 90 00:05:48,519 --> 00:05:56,649 Suze: monthly pension and that monthly pension will total $100,000 a year, 91 00:05:56,738 --> 00:06:03,380 Suze: which means Joseph will be getting $8,333 a month. 92 00:06:03,970 --> 00:06:09,440 Suze: Let's just say that was a life only option, which 93 00:06:09,450 --> 00:06:12,500 Suze: means if Joseph were to die, 94 00:06:13,209 --> 00:06:17,738 Suze: Then that $8,333 a month goes away. 95 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:24,808 Suze: Every company that offers a pension, offers you different survivor 96 00:06:24,820 --> 00:06:29,510 Suze: benefits and usually the survivor has to be your spouse. 97 00:06:30,029 --> 00:06:34,839 Suze: So if Joseph wanted to, he could have 100% joint 98 00:06:34,850 --> 00:06:38,510 Suze: and survivor benefit, which means whatever they are paying him 99 00:06:38,678 --> 00:06:42,660 Suze: when he dies, his spouse gets 100% of what they 100 00:06:42,670 --> 00:06:47,570 Suze: were getting or a 75% joint and survivor benefit or 101 00:06:47,579 --> 00:06:51,859 Suze: a 50% joint and survivor benefit or like I just said, 102 00:06:51,869 --> 00:06:54,420 Suze: a life only benefit, 103 00:06:55,010 --> 00:06:59,140 Suze: Which is what I think Joseph is talking about here 104 00:06:59,149 --> 00:07:01,559 Suze: because the amount of money is so great. 105 00:07:02,369 --> 00:07:08,350 Suze: A pop up option is this, if Joseph were to take, 106 00:07:08,359 --> 00:07:13,809 Suze: let's just say the 100% joint and Survivor benefit, they 107 00:07:13,820 --> 00:07:20,959 Suze: would possibly reduce that $8333 a month down to let's 108 00:07:20,970 --> 00:07:27,309 Suze: just say $6000 a month or $7000 a month where 109 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,149 Suze: if Joseph were to die, 110 00:07:29,429 --> 00:07:34,790 Suze: his spouse would continue to get $7,000 a month. However, 111 00:07:34,890 --> 00:07:41,570 Suze: if his spouse died before he did, his benefit would 112 00:07:41,579 --> 00:07:47,799 Suze: pop up to the $8,333 a month. That's what's called 113 00:07:47,809 --> 00:07:49,380 Suze: a pop up option. 114 00:07:50,070 --> 00:07:54,200 Suze: Now that I've explained what all of that is... over 115 00:07:54,209 --> 00:07:58,549 Suze: all the years that I was doing retirement planning for 116 00:07:58,559 --> 00:08:03,720 Suze: Pacific Gas and Electric where they had to choose which 117 00:08:03,730 --> 00:08:08,070 Suze: joint and Survivor benefit they should choose. And I was 118 00:08:08,079 --> 00:08:11,500 Suze: with them long enough to see when they were younger. 119 00:08:11,510 --> 00:08:13,940 Suze: And what did they choose to when they were older? 120 00:08:13,950 --> 00:08:17,619 Suze: And they died, every single one 121 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:22,670 Suze: who didn't choose the 100% joint and Survivor benefit pop 122 00:08:22,679 --> 00:08:29,149 Suze: up option regretted it. Number one. Number two Joseph, since 123 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,489 Suze: you have so much money that you say that you're 124 00:08:32,500 --> 00:08:36,750 Suze: going to have, you're gonna have $3 million in your 125 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:41,609 Suze: retirement account. You're gonna inherit $2 million here and on 126 00:08:41,619 --> 00:08:43,090 Suze: and on and on. 127 00:08:44,059 --> 00:08:47,049 Suze: What do you care? What will a little bit amount 128 00:08:47,059 --> 00:08:51,270 Suze: of money, whether it's 15,000 a year or $20,000 a year? 129 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,549 Suze: What difference will it make to you 130 00:08:54,289 --> 00:08:58,618 Suze: to give up that income since you have so much money? 131 00:08:58,750 --> 00:09:02,479 Suze: If you're really not worried about money at all, you 132 00:09:02,489 --> 00:09:07,440 Suze: definitely shouldn't be worried about choosing 100% joint and survivor 133 00:09:07,450 --> 00:09:12,260 Suze: benefit with a pop up. So through all my years, 134 00:09:12,270 --> 00:09:14,460 Suze: 40 of them, Joseph, 135 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:19,369 Suze: that I have been dealing with this, I would always 136 00:09:19,380 --> 00:09:25,340 Suze: tell you to choose the 100% joint and survivor pop 137 00:09:25,349 --> 00:09:27,569 Suze: up benefit. KT next question. 138 00:09:27,590 --> 00:09:30,329 KT: OK, Susie, I'm confused. 139 00:09:30,794 --> 00:09:32,325 Suze: Are we talking about you? 140 00:09:32,335 --> 00:09:33,733 KT: No, Brenda 141 00:09:33,864 --> 00:09:38,315 Suze: Because KT says to me all the time, Suze, I'm confused. 142 00:09:38,325 --> 00:09:42,525 KT: This is Brenda's confusion and, and this actually, this is 143 00:09:42,534 --> 00:09:46,205 KT: a great question because my sister asked Suze the same 144 00:09:46,215 --> 00:09:46,825 KT: question 145 00:09:47,179 --> 00:09:50,679 KT: She said Susie, I'm confused as to if I want my 146 00:09:50,690 --> 00:09:54,729 KT: husband to be named as a co owner or the 147 00:09:54,739 --> 00:09:59,750 KT: beneficiary of my Alliant CD. Is there an advantage to 148 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,510 KT: either one? It's exactly what Lynn asked you, right? 149 00:10:03,719 --> 00:10:08,130 Suze: So the answer to that question is Brenda very simple. 150 00:10:08,140 --> 00:10:13,669 Suze: A beneficiary on your Alliant CD or any CD 151 00:10:13,989 --> 00:10:19,239 Suze: would mean you die and that money goes directly to 152 00:10:19,250 --> 00:10:23,039 Suze: him in this particular case. So you own it in 153 00:10:23,049 --> 00:10:26,919 Suze: your individual name. He has no say over it. This 154 00:10:26,929 --> 00:10:30,039 Suze: is your money, Brenda. 155 00:10:30,539 --> 00:10:35,489 Suze: And upon your death, your husband would get it. If 156 00:10:35,500 --> 00:10:40,229 Suze: he is co owner, it means both of you own 157 00:10:40,239 --> 00:10:44,409 Suze: it so he can make decisions with it as well. 158 00:10:44,429 --> 00:10:47,739 Suze: So it depends how you feel about your husband. Do 159 00:10:47,750 --> 00:10:50,479 Suze: you want to give him any rights over this money 160 00:10:50,489 --> 00:10:54,039 Suze: or not? Do you want him to get it when 161 00:10:54,049 --> 00:10:54,950 Suze: you die? 162 00:10:55,340 --> 00:10:57,829 Suze: So, if all you want is for him to get 163 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,989 Suze: it when you die, make him the beneficiary. If you 164 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,848 Suze: don't care that he has total rights over this money 165 00:11:03,859 --> 00:11:06,959 Suze: and everything, make him the co owner. 166 00:11:07,020 --> 00:11:11,270 KT: All right. Next question is from Paul. Hi, Suze. My 167 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:16,608 KT: wife and I have approximately $350,000 in a brokerage account. 168 00:11:16,919 --> 00:11:20,409 KT: This is a well balanced account with stocks, mutual funds 169 00:11:20,419 --> 00:11:24,750 KT: and bond funds. We also have considerable savings in an 170 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:29,419 KT: emergency fund. We're both retired and we have no debt. 171 00:11:29,919 --> 00:11:33,909 KT: Our health care is paid by Medicare by my former employer. 172 00:11:33,919 --> 00:11:37,489 KT: I think both of them since retirement, we've never taken 173 00:11:37,500 --> 00:11:42,429 KT: any distributions from this account. So this is Paul's question: 174 00:11:42,669 --> 00:11:45,919 KT: Do we wait for the market to return to somewhat 175 00:11:45,929 --> 00:11:50,400 KT: normalcy or start taking distribution sooner? 176 00:11:51,049 --> 00:11:56,739 KT: Our income including SSI is $60,000 but our annual taxable 177 00:11:56,750 --> 00:12:01,000 KT: income is only about 25,000. My wife and I are 178 00:12:01,010 --> 00:12:05,739 KT: both 70. We understand by law we need to start distribution. 179 00:12:05,750 --> 00:12:10,189 KT: Six months after I turn 72 we're not getting any 180 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,619 KT: younger Suze. Please help. 181 00:12:17,299 --> 00:12:22,849 Suze: Actually, Paul, let me start by correcting you, now under Secure Act 2.0, the age for required minimum 182 00:12:22,859 --> 00:12:29,280 Suze: distributions for you is going to be 73 and you 183 00:12:29,289 --> 00:12:35,020 Suze: do not have to start taking required minimum distributions until when? 184 00:12:35,219 --> 00:12:41,190 Suze: April first, after the year that you turned 73. So 185 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,449 Suze: let's say that you turned 73 in January 186 00:12:45,869 --> 00:12:52,580 Suze: of 2024, you would not have to start taking required 187 00:12:52,590 --> 00:13:00,659 Suze: minimum distributions until April first of 2025. Would you want 188 00:13:00,669 --> 00:13:04,419 Suze: to do that? Because again, it's April first, after the 189 00:13:04,429 --> 00:13:09,098 Suze: year that you turn 73, would you want to ever 190 00:13:09,109 --> 00:13:11,098 Suze: do that? No, you would not, 191 00:13:11,530 --> 00:13:15,880 Suze: because if you wait until the year after you have 192 00:13:15,890 --> 00:13:21,210 Suze: turned 73 in this particular example, not only would you 193 00:13:21,219 --> 00:13:24,789 Suze: have to take out the required minimum distributions for when 194 00:13:24,799 --> 00:13:29,320 Suze: you were 73, that year, but you would also have 195 00:13:29,330 --> 00:13:32,119 Suze: to take it out that next year as well. 196 00:13:32,190 --> 00:13:38,978 Suze: So in 2025, you would have to take out two 197 00:13:38,989 --> 00:13:43,479 Suze: required minimum distributions which you would not want to do. 198 00:13:43,489 --> 00:13:47,229 Suze: So that's number one, just so you understand how it works. 199 00:13:47,369 --> 00:13:52,760 Suze: Number two, your income is $60,000 a year. 200 00:13:53,369 --> 00:14:00,900 Suze: But it says including SSI, which means that either you 201 00:14:00,909 --> 00:14:05,299 Suze: or your spouse has some disability, whether it be mental 202 00:14:05,309 --> 00:14:10,819 Suze: or physical, that's why you are on social security income. 203 00:14:11,119 --> 00:14:16,090 Suze: That's what SSI is. So that is why your $60,000 204 00:14:16,099 --> 00:14:23,229 Suze: a year of annual income is only taxed at $25,000 205 00:14:23,239 --> 00:14:26,989 Suze: because a lot of it is not taxable, even though 206 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,270 Suze: your wife and you are both 70. 207 00:14:31,010 --> 00:14:33,500 Suze: Right. It depends on, 208 00:14:34,070 --> 00:14:37,099 Suze: does it make sense for you to take out any 209 00:14:37,109 --> 00:14:40,859 Suze: more money? The truth of the matter is if you 210 00:14:40,869 --> 00:14:45,320 Suze: don't need it, leave it in there, the longer that 211 00:14:45,330 --> 00:14:48,880 Suze: it's in there, the more money will accumulate for you, 212 00:14:48,890 --> 00:14:53,369 Suze: either tax deferred or tax free, especially if it's a raw. 213 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:57,059 Suze: So even though you're not getting any younger, if you 214 00:14:57,070 --> 00:15:01,650 Suze: don't need it, don't take it. Next question, KT! 215 00:15:03,190 --> 00:15:07,369 KT: Next question. Suze is from Emma. Dear, Suze and KT, I 216 00:15:07,380 --> 00:15:10,750 KT: love your show very much because KT T akes it 217 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,320 KT: fun to learn about money. 218 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:17,809 Suze: Did they really say that? I told you, I'm telling you, everybody. 219 00:15:18,380 --> 00:15:21,419 KT: It said because you both make it fun to learn 220 00:15:21,429 --> 00:15:24,549 KT: about money, but we know who she's really talking about. 221 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:25,330 KT: It said... 222 00:15:25,750 --> 00:15:26,830 Suze: Wait, do you all think KT is more fun than I am? 223 00:15:31,349 --> 00:15:36,200 KT: Absolutely. Come on, everybody. Come on answer. Honestly, she can take it. All right, ready. 224 00:15:36,210 --> 00:15:37,630 KT: Let me finish. The question... 225 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,479 Suze: I already know the answer.  KT is ten times more fun than I am. 226 00:15:39,609 --> 00:15:44,489 KT: When are annuities a good investment? I'm 45 with an 227 00:15:44,500 --> 00:15:47,659 KT: old 403 B from a previous employer. 228 00:15:48,099 --> 00:15:52,010 KT: My current employer does not match. Can I move this 229 00:15:52,020 --> 00:15:57,080 KT: money into an annuity? She's only 45.. A financial... Ready, 230 00:15:57,090 --> 00:16:02,950 KT: Suze ready everyone. A financial advisor is encouraging me to 231 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,030 KT: do so. 232 00:16:04,340 --> 00:16:05,229 Suze: Pop quizzie. 233 00:16:05,869 --> 00:16:07,309 KT: There's no good time. Don't do it. 234 00:16:10,820 --> 00:16:15,349 Suze: Everybody, this is KT's quizzie. Because the reason I want this 235 00:16:15,359 --> 00:16:19,409 Suze: to be KT's quizzie is the quizzie I chose for 236 00:16:19,419 --> 00:16:22,650 Suze: KT today, not knowing that she had. This question 237 00:16:22,900 --> 00:16:26,729 Suze: was from a Cathy Lee that said is in annuity, 238 00:16:26,739 --> 00:16:30,909 Suze: a good option at age 63. When you don't trust 239 00:16:30,919 --> 00:16:31,809 Suze: the stock market... 240 00:16:32,450 --> 00:16:32,479 KT: Can I answer that? 241 00:16:38,164 --> 00:16:42,494 Suze: Wait, slow down, slow down. All right. So thequestion for the quizzie then is we have Emma who 242 00:16:42,505 --> 00:16:49,875 Suze: is 45. We have Cathy Lee, that is 63 right? 243 00:16:50,075 --> 00:16:55,455 Suze: Both of them want to know essentially is an annuity, 244 00:16:55,465 --> 00:17:01,094 Suze: a good place to go for your investments. How would 245 00:17:01,104 --> 00:17:06,354 Suze: all of you answer that question? Again, Emma in particular 246 00:17:06,750 --> 00:17:12,250 Suze: has money in an old 403B from a previous employer. 247 00:17:12,339 --> 00:17:16,199 Suze: All right, you also say that your current employer does 248 00:17:16,209 --> 00:17:19,129 Suze: not match, but the truth of the matter is one, 249 00:17:19,140 --> 00:17:22,859 Suze: has nothing to do with the other. So briefly, I 250 00:17:22,869 --> 00:17:26,719 Suze: just want to say if your current employer does not 251 00:17:26,729 --> 00:17:27,520 Suze: match 252 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:33,319 Suze: and they do not offer a ROTH 401k, you would 253 00:17:33,329 --> 00:17:38,709 Suze: be far better off putting money into a ROTH Ira. 254 00:17:38,719 --> 00:17:42,718 Suze: If you qualify for it, income wise. Or even if 255 00:17:42,729 --> 00:17:47,489 Suze: you make too much money, possibly doing a back door 256 00:17:47,650 --> 00:17:48,349 Suze: ROTH Ira. 257 00:17:48,535 --> 00:17:53,854 Suze: Than putting money into your employer's plan that does not 258 00:17:53,864 --> 00:17:57,234 Suze: match if you make too much money. By the way, 259 00:17:57,464 --> 00:18:02,015 Suze: for a ROTH Ira and your employer does offer a 260 00:18:02,025 --> 00:18:08,775 Suze: ROTH 401k, then you would do your employer's ROTH 401k. Ok. 261 00:18:09,530 --> 00:18:13,459 Suze: So the real question at hand is, should Emma 262 00:18:14,219 --> 00:18:17,979 Suze: take the money that's in her old 403B from a 263 00:18:17,989 --> 00:18:19,989 Suze: previous employer 264 00:18:20,619 --> 00:18:25,920 Suze: and put it into an annuity? And Cathy, at the 265 00:18:25,930 --> 00:18:31,109 Suze: age of 63 doesn't trust the stock market. Should she 266 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:36,260 Suze: put money into an annuity? Think about it. Everybody join 267 00:18:36,270 --> 00:18:39,849 Suze: those two questions. How would you answer them? Go KT. 268 00:18:40,319 --> 00:18:41,170 KT: OK. No. 269 00:18:41,369 --> 00:18:45,109 Suze: KT, all right. Your answer is correct. They shouldn't do it. 270 00:18:45,189 --> 00:18:48,300 Suze: But why should they not do it? 271 00:18:50,239 --> 00:18:53,329 KT: Well, I don't know the answer. No, I don't know the answer. I'm, 272 00:18:53,339 --> 00:18:57,500 KT: I'm just using my gut on Cathy Lee. This, this one, 273 00:18:57,510 --> 00:19:01,489 KT: she's only 45. Is that a little too early to 274 00:19:01,500 --> 00:19:04,650 KT: even buy or consider an annuity, isn't it? 275 00:19:04,660 --> 00:19:08,810 Suze: There's lots of variable annuities. However, the money is in 276 00:19:08,819 --> 00:19:12,510 Suze: an old 403 B, right? So the truth of the 277 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:17,810 Suze: matter is they shouldn't do it. But you don't know why. 278 00:19:17,839 --> 00:19:18,409 Suze: So 279 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,989 Suze: ding, ding, ding, ding, ding and (wrong answer noise). 280 00:19:23,900 --> 00:19:27,609 Suze: All right. Listen to me, everybody. You can't go by 281 00:19:27,619 --> 00:19:33,010 Suze: your gut. It is really important that you understand why 282 00:19:33,020 --> 00:19:36,780 Suze: you do something and you understand why you do not 283 00:19:36,849 --> 00:19:41,410 Suze: do something. So let me first start with Emma. 284 00:19:42,430 --> 00:19:47,989 Suze: Emma, you are only 45 years of age. Your money 285 00:19:48,010 --> 00:19:52,520 Suze: happens to be in a 403 B with an ex-employer. 286 00:19:52,530 --> 00:19:58,810 Suze: So it's already in a tax deferred vehicle because 403 Bs, 287 00:19:58,819 --> 00:20:03,400 Suze: you do not pay taxes on. Why in the world 288 00:20:03,410 --> 00:20:07,800 Suze: would you want to take this money and put it 289 00:20:07,810 --> 00:20:09,979 Suze: in to an annuity, 290 00:20:10,430 --> 00:20:13,729 Suze: that is also tax deferred? It would have to be 291 00:20:13,739 --> 00:20:18,109 Suze: in an IRA that you buy the annuity. Why would 292 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,109 Suze: you want to do that when you're getting a tax 293 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:28,229 Suze: deferred investment within a tax deferred account? Oh, I know 294 00:20:28,239 --> 00:20:32,159 Suze: why your financial advisor is encouraging you to do so 295 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:38,979 Suze: because normally with an annuity, there is a 5 to 7% commission. 296 00:20:39,569 --> 00:20:44,729 Suze: If you have $200,000 in an old 403B, you do 297 00:20:44,739 --> 00:20:47,599 Suze: a transfer of that money or a rollover of that 298 00:20:47,609 --> 00:20:52,050 Suze: money to an IRA rollover and you put it into 299 00:20:52,060 --> 00:20:53,290 Suze: an annuity. 300 00:20:53,900 --> 00:20:59,050 Suze: Your financial advisor probably would be making about $14,000 in 301 00:20:59,060 --> 00:21:02,669 Suze: commissions to do so. Fabulous reason. 302 00:21:03,609 --> 00:21:06,969 Suze: In annuity is not something that you should be doing 303 00:21:06,979 --> 00:21:10,919 Suze: at the age of 45. Do you hear me? You 304 00:21:10,930 --> 00:21:14,688 Suze: should be taking this money doing an IRA rollover with 305 00:21:14,699 --> 00:21:20,640 Suze: it dollar cost averaging into index funds or exchange traded 306 00:21:20,650 --> 00:21:24,329 Suze: funds or whatever it may be, especially given that you 307 00:21:24,339 --> 00:21:27,160 Suze: have at least 20 years till you need this money. 308 00:21:27,430 --> 00:21:31,400 Suze: The markets most likely will continue down here for a while, 309 00:21:31,410 --> 00:21:35,560 Suze: even though I know they go up in everything overall. 310 00:21:35,569 --> 00:21:39,479 Suze: At this moment, we are in a bear market. So 311 00:21:39,489 --> 00:21:42,359 Suze: there will be times that if you simply dollar cost 312 00:21:42,369 --> 00:21:45,719 Suze: average and these markets go down and you are putting 313 00:21:45,729 --> 00:21:50,420 Suze: this money every single month into some great investment, 314 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,609 Suze: an exchange traded fund and invest in the index, the 315 00:21:54,619 --> 00:21:59,060 Suze: Schwab dividend equity fund that I like for dividends or 316 00:21:59,069 --> 00:22:04,030 Suze: whatever it may be, you will be far better off. 317 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:08,599 Suze: So that's what you should be doing. Do not listen 318 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:15,109 Suze: to this financial advisor. Do you hear me? And Cathy Lee? Obviously, 319 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,790 Suze: we're talking about money outside of an annuity. 320 00:22:19,109 --> 00:22:23,379 Suze: When you buy an annuity, it is a contract with 321 00:22:23,390 --> 00:22:28,920 Suze: an insurance company and for that contract, right? You do 322 00:22:28,930 --> 00:22:33,339 Suze: not pay taxes on that money while it is invested, 323 00:22:33,349 --> 00:22:35,899 Suze: it is tax deferred. 324 00:22:36,410 --> 00:22:41,439 Suze: However, you cannot get at that money usually for five 325 00:22:41,449 --> 00:22:45,890 Suze: or seven years without paying a surrender fee. That is 326 00:22:45,900 --> 00:22:51,199 Suze: how the financial advisor makes the commission to sell you that. Love, 327 00:22:51,209 --> 00:22:54,500 Suze: you would be far better off taking this money and 328 00:22:54,510 --> 00:22:59,179 Suze: buying a one year certificate of deposit depending on the 329 00:22:59,189 --> 00:23:00,400 Suze: state that you live in, 330 00:23:01,010 --> 00:23:04,989 Suze: at Alliant Credit Union. And you would do so because 331 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,489 Suze: why you could get 5% for one year. 332 00:23:07,969 --> 00:23:11,359 Suze: You could take this money and buy if you want 333 00:23:11,369 --> 00:23:16,410 Suze: to right, a dividend portfolio like the Schwab equity dividend 334 00:23:16,420 --> 00:23:20,699 Suze: portfolio that I'm telling all of you about S C 335 00:23:20,750 --> 00:23:24,920 Suze: H D is the symbol currently paying 3.5%. There are 336 00:23:24,930 --> 00:23:28,250 Suze: better things for you to do. You are not to 337 00:23:28,260 --> 00:23:32,280 Suze: buy an annuity at this point in time. If you 338 00:23:32,290 --> 00:23:34,239 Suze: ask me. All right, KT! 339 00:23:36,219 --> 00:23:42,790 KT: Next question from Janice, Dear Suze. I have term life insurance. 340 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:47,599 KT: It will expire in 12 years. I will be 82. 341 00:23:47,839 --> 00:23:52,469 Suze: I want to convert to a universal Life insurance to 342 00:23:52,479 --> 00:23:57,849 Suze: provide insurance after the age of 82. What do you recommend? 343 00:23:57,859 --> 00:24:05,439 Suze: Why do you want to provide insurance to age of 82? No, no, no. 344 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,689 Suze: You know you're great that you have at least term 345 00:24:08,699 --> 00:24:10,849 Suze: insurance till 82 346 00:24:11,270 --> 00:24:13,780 Suze: right? But if you look at the premiums that you 347 00:24:13,790 --> 00:24:16,899 Suze: are going to have to pay and a universal policy, 348 00:24:16,910 --> 00:24:18,619 Suze: you are not to do it, you are not to 349 00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:21,169 Suze: do it. You are not to do it. Why do 350 00:24:21,180 --> 00:24:26,030 Suze: you want to provide insurance? Who needs insurance that is 351 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:31,530 Suze: dependent upon you? No overall chances are I don't think 352 00:24:31,540 --> 00:24:33,219 Suze: you should do this. All right. Go on. 353 00:24:36,530 --> 00:24:40,489 KT: Next question is.. Hello Suze and KT. I hope all is well. I've been following since 2020 and 354 00:24:40,500 --> 00:24:44,859 KT: even bought Suze's most recent book to assist my family. 355 00:24:45,030 --> 00:24:47,760 KT: Now I picked this question, Suze, because this is, 356 00:24:48,030 --> 00:24:52,119 KT: this comes up all the time and everyone pretty much 357 00:24:52,170 --> 00:24:55,349 KT: our age and even younger has these issues with. 358 00:24:55,510 --> 00:24:58,329 Suze: But I do just want to answer. Obviously, she's been 359 00:24:58,339 --> 00:25:02,380 Suze: following since 2020 and she's asking that she hopes all is well. 360 00:25:03,170 --> 00:25:05,739 Suze: I think she's referring to me and my health. I'll 361 00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:07,209 Suze: let KT answer that. 362 00:25:07,390 --> 00:25:10,579 KT: It's not well, it's great! She's doing great, 363 00:25:10,670 --> 00:25:13,619 KT: great, great, great, great and, and every day better and 364 00:25:13,630 --> 00:25:17,389 KT: better and she's doing stretch yoga at night, which is 365 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,530 KT: making a huge difference. A great thing that we did. 366 00:25:20,969 --> 00:25:24,599 Suze: Every night before we go to bed. I signed up for this 367 00:25:24,609 --> 00:25:27,760 Suze: little class that was online and the two of us 368 00:25:27,770 --> 00:25:31,438 Suze: do it together and it is my regimen. And the 369 00:25:31,449 --> 00:25:33,219 Suze: other night, KT said to me, 370 00:25:33,550 --> 00:25:36,439 Suze: oh, I'm so tired. Can't we do it in the morning? 371 00:25:36,449 --> 00:25:39,030 Suze: I said no, it won't be a regimen if I 372 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,000 Suze: don't do it tonight, it's not a regimen. Anyway, go on. 373 00:25:42,010 --> 00:25:44,729 KT: All right. So she said I'm writing as I need 374 00:25:44,739 --> 00:25:48,760 KT: further guidance regarding changing the title and the name of 375 00:25:48,770 --> 00:25:52,889 KT: my parents' home to the name of the trust. They 376 00:25:52,900 --> 00:25:53,660 KT: have their must 377 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,949 KT: have documents. Suze, I just need your assistance to get 378 00:25:57,959 --> 00:26:02,920 KT: my parents situated. My dad has terminal illness and I 379 00:26:02,930 --> 00:26:06,760 KT: want to make sure they are all set regarding finances. 380 00:26:06,770 --> 00:26:11,329 Suze: So the quick answer to this question is to change 381 00:26:11,339 --> 00:26:13,890 Suze: the title from your father's name 382 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,979 Suze: into, let's say the title of the trust. All you 383 00:26:17,989 --> 00:26:21,589 Suze: have to do is go to a title company and 384 00:26:21,599 --> 00:26:25,958 Suze: have them change the deed. Now, you need to find 385 00:26:25,969 --> 00:26:30,089 Suze: a title company that wants to do this or possibly 386 00:26:30,099 --> 00:26:34,290 Suze: even a lawyer that specializes in doing it for you. 387 00:26:34,300 --> 00:26:36,310 Suze: Just that simple. 388 00:26:36,579 --> 00:26:39,260 Suze: And as soon as you do that, it might cost 389 00:26:39,270 --> 00:26:43,329 Suze: you anywhere from $3-$500 to do so, but it is 390 00:26:43,339 --> 00:26:45,869 Suze: worth it as soon as you do so, and the 391 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,790 Suze: title is transferred into the trust you are set. 392 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,329 KT: So this is our last question. It's from Nancy. 393 00:26:52,729 --> 00:26:57,890 KT: Hi, ladies, quick question regarding IRA withdrawals. When do I 394 00:26:57,900 --> 00:27:02,699 KT: start to make withdrawals from my IRA? Are you only 395 00:27:02,709 --> 00:27:07,920 KT: allowed one per year or can you make installments of 396 00:27:07,930 --> 00:27:13,760 KT: withdrawals monthly? Also, if you are not at the RMD age, 397 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,180 KT: if you take a withdrawal this year, have you opened 398 00:27:17,189 --> 00:27:19,718 KT: a Pandora's Box? And then 399 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:25,188 KT: am I required to take disbursements yearly? Thanks for sharing 400 00:27:25,199 --> 00:27:26,619 KT: your expertise. 401 00:27:26,829 --> 00:27:31,229 Suze: Actually, Nancy. What a fabulous question. First of all, you 402 00:27:31,239 --> 00:27:35,410 Suze: need to know you can take withdrawals from your IRA 403 00:27:35,650 --> 00:27:39,429 Suze: any time after the age of 59 and a half, any 404 00:27:39,439 --> 00:27:42,829 Suze: time your little heart desires. Why the age of 59 405 00:27:42,989 --> 00:27:47,540 Suze: and a half? Because for a pretax IRA or 401k or 406 00:27:47,550 --> 00:27:48,688 Suze: any retirement account, 407 00:27:49,074 --> 00:27:52,604 Suze: if you take money out before 59 and a half, there 408 00:27:52,614 --> 00:27:58,265 Suze: is a 10% penalty on it. Plus you're gonna pay taxes. 409 00:27:58,275 --> 00:28:01,563 Suze: So after the age of 59 and a half, you just 410 00:28:01,574 --> 00:28:06,074 Suze: pay taxes, which is why I love ROTH Iras because 411 00:28:06,084 --> 00:28:10,084 Suze: there's no taxes and no RMDs. But that's besides the point. 412 00:28:10,094 --> 00:28:10,625 Suze: All right. 413 00:28:10,849 --> 00:28:15,880 Suze: So you can take out withdrawals anytime you want. You 414 00:28:15,890 --> 00:28:18,738 Suze: could take it out once a month, once a week, 415 00:28:18,750 --> 00:28:21,500 Suze: you could drive your financial firm crazy and take it 416 00:28:21,510 --> 00:28:27,159 Suze: out every day. It does not matter. Also, if you 417 00:28:27,170 --> 00:28:28,879 Suze: are not at the RMD 418 00:28:28,969 --> 00:28:34,729 Suze: age, it has nothing to do with opening a Pandora's box. 419 00:28:34,739 --> 00:28:39,790 Suze: The RMDs will be figured at how much money you 420 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:44,520 Suze: actually have within your IRA at the time that RMDs 421 00:28:45,030 --> 00:28:49,069 Suze: are required to start and then they will tell you 422 00:28:49,079 --> 00:28:52,540 Suze: how much you need to take out. So one has 423 00:28:52,550 --> 00:28:54,989 Suze: nothing to do with the other. So if you want 424 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,880 Suze: to start taking it out right now, girlfriend, 425 00:28:58,079 --> 00:29:04,530 Suze: go for it. All right. KT, in just another day, guess what? 426 00:29:06,839 --> 00:29:09,900 KT: Everyone will be here. She can have a nice weekend. 427 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,520 KT: So she's always so happy. I love when we have visitors. 428 00:29:13,530 --> 00:29:16,069 KT: I love when we have guests and visitors. 429 00:29:16,530 --> 00:29:19,439 KT: It just, it just adds a lot of color to 430 00:29:19,449 --> 00:29:20,380 KT: our life. 431 00:29:20,390 --> 00:29:23,589 Suze: And I'm learning right. I'm getting better. 432 00:29:23,599 --> 00:29:26,829 KT: Suze's great. She, in the beginning it was a little 433 00:29:26,839 --> 00:29:31,069 KT: challenging everybody but she loves, she looks forward to it. 434 00:29:31,079 --> 00:29:33,510 KT: Matter of fact, you said to me, oh, let's invite 435 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,869 KT: this group of friends. Let's invite that friend. 436 00:29:36,239 --> 00:29:40,819 Suze: And we are so I am doing better. KT 437 00:29:41,770 --> 00:29:45,010 Suze: how do we end this podcast? What do we want 438 00:29:45,020 --> 00:29:50,109 Suze: everybody to say every single day? Go for it, KT! 439 00:29:50,369 --> 00:29:55,430 KT: O K. Today, Suze, wherever we go, we will create 440 00:29:55,439 --> 00:29:59,540 KT: a more peaceful, joyful and loving world. 441 00:29:59,569 --> 00:30:02,020 Suze: And if they do that KT what happens? 442 00:30:02,209 --> 00:30:04,229 KT: They are unstoppable. 443 00:30:04,239 --> 00:30:07,390 Suze: All right, everybody see you Sunday. Have a great weekend. 444 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:08,270 Suze: Bye bye. 445 00:30:14,780 --> 00:30:15,900 Music: MUSIC.